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Post by: Centurian99
Just got home from Game Room in Toledo. Thanks to getting lucky when I needed it, I managed to go 3-0 and won 1st Place with my Chaos Daemons. Jeff McConnel took second with his Chaos Daemons, and I think third place went to a SM army.
Batreps to follow when I've rested, and see if the pics from my phone are worth anything.
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Post by: Aduro
I've heard back from the guys who traveled a state over from the local store. First place in Bellavue was tank guard. Second was dual lash prince. Third was another tank guard, one of the local guys. Unfortionitly I heard that the guy who beat me in the third round decided yesterday that he wasn't going to be able to go but didn't tell anyone from the store.
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Post by: Blackmoor
A Dark Eldar player I beat in round #1 won overall in AZ (I think).
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Post by: mikhaila
Salamanders, marines on bikes, and Chaos marines, were our top 3 in PA, (If my brain is working correctly, 40 people, long day.)
Tim Hudak won the overall.
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Post by: asugradinwa
At Ernie's Games in Woodinville WA we had a good tourament with the final results comming down to the last turn on all three of the top tables.
Dark Eldar wych cult won 1st place with 3 massacres (he was the same player who got BONED last year at the finals with deamon deployment against him, I hope he takes it all this year.)
I finished 2nd with my Salamanders with a Minor Victory, Massacre, and Major victory. Had I really been thinking well I could have gotten a Massacre in round 1 instead of the minor but those are learning experiances. When in doubt: MOVE THE RHINO AWAY!
3rd up was CatPeeler with his awsome Chaos deamon conversions.
As I said, all three of the final games came down to the last turn. I had 1 tactical marine holding the center objective in my game, the remaining Dark Eldar Armada downed a Falcon guarding the center objective for in another game, and the Chaos Deamons could not down the last fire prism contesting the center object in Catpeeler's game.
All in all, a very fun event.
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Post by: kartofelkopf
Just back from Fayetteville, NC at the Hobbit. Top spot went to Ork BW spam, second place was me with a Green tide (boyz spam?), and third went to a Nidzilla player (who got into 3arguments with his opp/the TOs during his last round- was unimpressed).
Overall, had a good time- all my opponents were pleasant and faced some good lists.
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Post by: Clthomps
I am glad to see that some good DE players are making a run for it.
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Post by: Black Blow Fly
Southern Florida winners were as follows:
1st place - mechdar, 12 skimmers
2nd place - lash/Nurghal Marine/Oblit spam
3rd place - Blood Angels (my army)
I have not heard yet what armies made it through in central Florida.
G
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Post by: Primarch
Phoenix Games in Atlanta
1st- Lash CSM
2nd- SM
3rd- Orks
4th- Lash CSM
5th- Orks(me)
20-22 players.
I played the 3rd place Ork guy in round 1, and we drew, then I played back to back Mech Vulkan lists in round 2 and 3. I got a Massacre in round 2, and a minor victory in round 3. Even with going 2-0-1, I didn't score the big win in the 3rd round, I was on table 2, and the minor victory allowed the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place finishers to pass me up in total points.
Good time though.
Clay
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Post by: SandWyrm
Orks swept the top 3 spots in Louisville.
#1 was a Mech Ork list of 4 Battlewagons with each carrying a Mega Nob unit.
#2 was a mixed Battlewagon/Trukk list.
#3 was a horde list with a unit of nob bikers, 2 loota squads, some Kans, and forcefields to protect the Boyz as they crossed the table.
Here's the list of armies I counted:
6 Mech Chaos
5 Mech Guard
3 Orks (2 Mech, 1 Horde)
5 Mech Eldar
1 Tau (Mech)
1 Necron (Mostly Destroyers)
1 Black Templar (Mech)
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Post by: jbalthis
SandWyrm wrote:Orks swept the top 3 spots in Louisville.
#1 was a Mech Ork list of 4 Battlewagons with each carrying a Mega Nob unit.
#2 was a mixed Battlewagon/Trukk list.
#3 was a horde list with a unit of nob bikers, 2 loota squads, some Kans, and forcefields to protect the Boyz as they crossed the table.
Here's the list of armies I counted:
6 Mech Chaos
5 Mech Guard
3 Orks (2 Mech, 1 Horde)
5 Mech Eldar
1 Tau (Mech)
1 Necron (Mostly Destroyers)
1 Black Templar (Mech)
When you say mech, are you claiming full mech?
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Post by: Gornall
Dayton, OH went:
1st Orks
2nd Nids
3rd Double Lash
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Post by: Kirasu
Pittsburgh, PA
Eldar (me)
Chaos (no lash)
Marines (no vulkan)
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Post by: Blackmoor
Alright, time to total up the top 3 finishers broken down by codex: (Updated down to the Dragon Keep in Provo)
10 Chaos space marines
9 Space Marines
9 Orks
5 Imperial Guard
4 Eldar
3 Chaos Demons
3 Dark Eldar
2 Black Templar
2 Tyranid
1 Blood Angels
1 Tau (My personal hero!)
A pretty good spread of armies.
You could almost say that GW is doing a good job balancing the codexes if there were more than only one or two good units in each codex (Lash/Seer Council/Vulcan).
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Post by: rednekgunner
I just got home from Ernie's Games in Woodenville, and am pretty pleased for the most part. I played my mech salamanders
I had a tough match in scenario 1 vs mech IG. It was a hard battle going back and forth, until the 4 round when I was able to pull out a massacre. The highlight of the game was a lone tactical marine SGT who made 5 battle cannon cover saves. I won 23-0
Round 2 was vs Eldar. This match was terrible. The first problem was the opponet stalled like crazy. It took way to long for him to set up.( His army consisted of 2 seer councils on bikes, 2 units of 3 war walkers, 1 unit of fire dragons in a falcon, 2 units of warp spiders, and 4 units of 3 guardian jetbikes.) The worst part was all of his reserves were in turn 2, so there shouldn't have been a reason to take so long. Also he spent at least 15 miniutes before each round deciding which psychic powers. The next issue I had with him was his movement was time and time again illeagle. I looked over to one of the guys running the tourney, and gestured to the table. All the organizer could do was agree with me. I took this as the judge telling me to quit whining and play. We only go to turn 4 and I got massacred 22-2. After the match I talked to the judge and learned a few things. First Ernie was the only one in charge.(even though the other guy was taking down people's scores) And he tried to tell me that I didn't object right. We talked and I was very pleased how the situation was handled. I wasn't trying to get my game changed, but the right thing would have been to at least count the game as a draw, but oh well. They warned him and let him play on. Anyway onto round 3
Round 3 was vs IG. This game was a very solid game for me. I reserved most of my stuff and denied his shooting. My first turn I sent my empty drop pod in the middle of his lines. He in turn shot at it and blew it up. (killing 6 guardsman) Turn 2 my scout bikers and LRR came in. I sent the LRR after his hellhound and blew it up with a MM. The bikers outflanked in his backfield and blew up a Leman Russ. Turn 3 my shooting termies came in and deep struck right behind his Command Squad and assassinated them. The rest of the game was me driving him off the board. Victory 21-1.
I ended up in 4th place with 46 points one point behind catpeeler, but that was ok because at least our store was being represented. Over all it was fun, but there is always next year.
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Post by: asugradinwa
rednekgunner wrote:The bikers outflanked in his backfield and blew up a Leman Russ.
How did you get the bikers to outflank? Were you running Khan in your Salamander list? EDIT: Nevermind just saw they were scout bikers. Hmmm (getting an idea here)
Sorry to hear about your rough 2nd round. I hate being slow played (happened to me last year).
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Post by: Linkdead
So many 3rd tier and totally uncompetitive armies are moving on to the next round...amazing...
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Post by: Blackmoor
I wonder how tonytheman did.
After shooting off his mouth in this thread, I wonder if he could back it up.
Same with Dash of Pepper, since he is 74-1-1 and only plays for the money. He might have made it since he plays Orks and the top 2 finishers at his semis were ork players.
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Post by: rednekgunner
asugradinwa wrote:rednekgunner wrote:The bikers outflanked in his backfield and blew up a Leman Russ.
How did you get the bikers to outflank? Were you running Khan in your Salamander list?
Sorry to hear about your rough 2nd round. I hate being slow played (happened to me last year).
I was using scout bikers, I will post my list up later.
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Post by: asugradinwa
Blackmoor wrote:I wonder how tonytheman did.
After shooting off his mouth in this thread, I wonder if he could back it up.
Same with Dash of Pepper, since he is 74-1-1 and only plays for the money. He might have made it since he plays Orks and the top 2 finishers at his semis were ork players.
If he won won't he be 77-1-1?
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Post by: Sha1emade
Linkdead- Aaaaahhhh....Obviously they are not 3rd tier armies. Meta game changes fast. What was 3rd can now be first later. The guard are throwing allot out of wack at the moment. While not dominating, they are changing what people need to be prepared for. Take deamons. What you fight SM, Guard and Orks with tend to be very different things that what you take to fight deamons. If you are not expecting to see them. You might not prepare for them and bam they are making it to the finals. Count no one out. Just saying it does not surprise me. Saying these armies are not competitive is just being silly and narrow of focus.
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Post by: Kingsley
Linkdead wrote:So many 3rd tier and totally uncompetitive armies are moving on to the next round...amazing...
Tiers are fake.
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Post by: number9dream
Anoka, MN (I guess?) Results:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/251663.page
Blaznak wrote:Well, Anoka was fun.
First: the winners, Eldar, I Gard and Templars (3, 2, 1 in that order)
I took the tyranids and at least did not EPIC FAIL. I did get a loss, a massacre, and a loss, but the games were fun.
Round 1 against Eldar: He had a ton of weird tank transports and Eldred (whatever) and some walker dudes and an avatar thingy. I had a lot of nids. We kind of met in the middle and I blew up a lot of stuff, but then his tanks had guys in them and they killed a lot more of my stuff so he ended up winning. It was close. He took 3rd, by the way.
Round 2 against Tyranids: He was a good player and it was hot Tyranid on Tyranid action. Normally, that's pay per view stuff. I know because I accidentally rented that at a hotel three times onces. Anyways, He waaaaaay over extended in the dawn of war and then didn't kill much with his hormagaunts. I counter charged with stuff and we fought a lot and I got the objectives and then he was mostly dead so it was a Massacre.
Round 3 against Space Wolves. We just charged and died and charged again and died and charged again and died. he killed my last troop and had one guy left on the center so he got a major victory and that was that.
I hope those detailed battle reports make it seem as if you were there in the room with us!
Blaz - 14 of 2X (at least I made the teens)
North Carolina I think?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251575/895483.page#895483
Sarigar wrote:Locally, mechanized lists are what is played. However, with only 3 local players out of 38 players at the Ard Boyz semi finals, mech was not the norm:
1st: mech Orks
2nd: horde Orks
3rd: Tyranids
Folks travelled from Virginia, South Carolina and other parts of North Carolina for the event. It was interesting to see the various armies being played.
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Post by: DarthDiggler
Springfield, Illinois.
1) Vanilla marines
2) 9-skimmer Guard
3) Black Templar LR rush
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Post by: Major Malfunction
Linkdead wrote:So many 3rd tier and totally uncompetitive armies are moving on to the next round...amazing...
Especially the Orks. Clearly it was nothing but scrubs they played against... I'll bet the players they faced were all the suck. But were Ellesar and Frank Fugger playing against them this travesty would not have happened. 
Seriously, congratulations to all the winners moving into the next round and really to all of you that made it thus far. 
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Post by: Mahu
Sci-Fi City in Central Florida:
1st - Lash/Oblit Chaos
2nd - Lash Chaos
3rd - Dark Eldar
4th was a Black Templars player that was behind by only one point, and it was realized after the fact that he should have gotten the point he needed from his first game (he was at 23 when his opponent forfeited so he should have gotten full points) and he would have broke the tie in VPs. But the results where already done, it was realized to late.
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Post by: Toxxic
The semi-finals in Little Rock
1st Orks
2nd IG
3rd Chaos
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Post by: Hulksmash
Game Empire in Pasadena, CA
1) 6 Battlewagon w/Deff Rollerz
2) Vulkan Marines w/Sisters Allies
3) Not sure, but probably Marines by 435vp's
4) Wraithzilla (Mortevie)
5) ??
6) Pedro Space Marines (me)
Deff Rolla ruling heavily affected the results of the tournament.
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Post by: olympia
Congrats to all. It's great to see the performance of the marines. Clearly the kinks have been worked out since their disgraceful performance at the Baltimore GT.
No Tau 
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Post by: Warmaster Primus
Blackmoor wrote:I wonder how tonytheman did.
After shooting off his mouth in this thread, I wonder if he could back it up.
Same with Dash of Pepper, since he is 74-1-1 and only plays for the money. He might have made it since he plays Orks and the top 2 finishers at his semis were ork players.
I was at the Media PA event, and Tony got kicked out for threatening another player.
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Post by: Kirasu
Glad all the good sports came to pittsburgh then :p Unlike last year where we had to deal with people like Tony from media!
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Post by: Blackmoor
Warmaster Primus wrote:Blackmoor wrote:I wonder how tonytheman did.
After shooting off his mouth in this thread, I wonder if he could back it up.
Same with Dash of Pepper, since he is 74-1-1 and only plays for the money. He might have made it since he plays Orks and the top 2 finishers at his semis were ork players.
I was at the Media PA event, and Tony got kicked out for threatening another player.
From what I was told they both had "issues" and did not finish their tournaments.
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Post by: bthom37
Blackmoor wrote:Alright, time to total up the top 3 finishers broken down by codex: (Updated down to the Pasadena scores)
10 Chaos space marines
9 Orks
8 Space marines
5 Imperial Guard
3 Chaos Demons
3 Eldar
3 Dark Eldar
2 Black Templar
2 Tyranid
1 Blood Angels
A pretty good spread of armies.
You could almost say that GW is doing a good job balancing the codexes if there were more than only one or two good units in each codex (Lash/Seer Council/Vulcan).
Who's missing?
Tau
Space Wolves
Demonhunters
Witchhunters (although one Vulkan list did bring SOB allies?)
Dark Angels
So, the gimped codexes performed like gimped codexes.
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Post by: ObiFett
Dragon's Keep in Provo, Utah:
1st - Mechdar
2nd - Hybrid Tau
3rd - Calgar Marines
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Post by: Blackmoor
bthom37 wrote:
Who's missing?
Tau
Space Wolves
Demonhunters
Witchhunters (although one Vulkan list did bring SOB allies?)
Dark Angels
So, the gimped codexes performed like gimped codexes.
Don't forget Necrons.
All of the 3rd edition codexes excluding Dark Eldar who have the oldest army, and can still kick some butt...and Dark Angels who have a newer codex.
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Post by: Warmaster Primus
Blackmoor wrote:Warmaster Primus wrote:Blackmoor wrote:I wonder how tonytheman did.
After shooting off his mouth in this thread, I wonder if he could back it up.
Same with Dash of Pepper, since he is 74-1-1 and only plays for the money. He might have made it since he plays Orks and the top 2 finishers at his semis were ork players.
I was at the Media PA event, and Tony got kicked out for threatening another player.
From what I was told they both had "issues" and did not finish their tournaments.
I'm sorry that I didn't catch this earlier, but there is some misinformation here. Tony was kicked out during/after the 2nd game (I finished my game earlier and got a bite to eat. When I came back the incident had already occurred and Mall security was waiting for Tony to pick up). The top 3 at Media PA were Salamanders, Crimson Fists & Chaos. No Orks in the top 5. Of the top finishers, there were no issues.
The only "issue" (which wasn't even an issue) was that 3rd & 4th were tied and it came down to victory points. 3rd (me) and 4th had both 61 Battle points. We went to a tie breaker with VPs and I had 60 more than he did. Pretty tight, but hardly an issue. That said, it was a bit of an awkward ride home (I drove with 4th place back home).
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Post by: Dashofpepper
Blackmoor wrote:
From what I was told they both had "issues" and did not finish their tournaments.
Food poisoning Friday night - undercooked Kookaburo wings at the Outback led to a very bad night. :(
I showed up pale-faced Saturday morning nonetheless to give it my best shot. I faced off against Eldar in the first round....we had a ridiculous number of arguments that were just absolutely making it a horrendous game; during turn 2, I was setting up for my initial assault - his jetbike seer council had failed to cast fortune, failed the reroll, and I had Ghazghkull and two trukk boyz squads set to pile into them. He'd rolled such a number of 1s and 2s with his lances and missiles, even with guide that his anti-tank efforts were sorrowful; I felt bad for how bad he was shooting.
On the other side of the table, a battlewagon full of burna boyz rammed through and destroyed a wave serpent/falcon? to disgorge guardians; the burna boys piled out to prepare multi-assaulting the guardians and another squad of melta-carrying eldar somethings. I kid you not, we'd run into a ridiculous number of arguments at this point (some of them my fault too), and the game literally broke at this point. I still don't know the right answer to some of our disputes, and if I care enough later, I'll go to YMDC and ask.
I moved in and multi-assaulted....I can't even describe the bunched up stuff and scenario (it was a tight mess) and my opponent accused me of cheating because he thought I could have gotten more models into base contact, which would have prevented another one of my squads from assaulting one of his vehicles. I moved my models back to where they were (deployed outside the battlewagon without having moved) so that I could show him precisely how I had moved them and how, and my opponent told me that it didn't matter, I could have repositioned them anyway I wanted. I offered to let him place my models however he wanted because I didn't want to win and be called a cheater for having done so. He then picked up some of his models and re-arranged them on the board and said something to the effect of (I don't remember the exact words) "If you're going to cheat, then I will too."
I put my hands up and said, "You know what, you can have it - this isn't worth it." I packed up my models, went home, took some more Immodium and slept the rest of the day away.
Now, in hindsight I'm a little frustrated at myself. Typically I don't care what people think about me, but my opponent was someone I already knew and whose opinion I respect and was trying hard to make a good gaming impression with (I know, it wasn't an RTT). Combining that with the fact that I was drained and unsteady on my feet as it was, and was going to have to spend Sunday catching up on work, and something clicked in my head and said, "This is not worth the trouble I am going though."
My friends at the tournament called me last night on their way home and told me that he got into several other big arguments and ultimately didn't do well; I was hoping the massacre I gave up first round by conceding would have at least helped him get placed.
*shrugs* It was just not a day for me to be willing to throw down in an argument. Can't honestly say how the game would have went because he had killed a couple of my vehicles and in return had failed his fortune rolls with his seer council and was bunched up (my favorite) and I had just declared a Waaaugh! and was piling into his Eldar. Its ultimately irrelevant because I conceded my game, and chalked up a loss.
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Post by: mikhaila
Kirasu wrote:Glad all the good sports came to pittsburgh then :p Unlike last year where we had to deal with people like Tony from media!
No, no. Media doesn't claim him! We did our best to extradite him! I think he's from the MD/VA area.
But seriously, stuff happens, you move on. Hopefully it's a learning situation for everyone, and it's goes better next time for all involved, including Tony.
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Post by: CatPeeler
asugradinwa wrote:...and the Chaos Deamons could not down the last fire prism contesting the center object in Catpeeler's game.
You ain't kiddin'. Over two rounds, I must have had...12-15 glances and 5-8 pens on that @$%^#$^&ing fire prism, and couldn't do a damn thing. It's enough to give a guy an anyeurism, I tells ya...
Still made Chicago by one point (!), so I can't really complain.
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Post by: kartofelkopf
Open question for any other/previous finalists: prize support for 2nd and 3rd- how is that handled? Are we emailed? Does the TO at semis contact us? Does Mark Wells show up with an oversized Ed McMahon-style check?
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Post by: mikhaila
kartofelkopf wrote:Open question for any other/previous finalists: prize support for 2nd and 3rd- how is that handled? Are we emailed? Does the TO at semis contact us? Does Mark Wells show up with an oversized Ed McMahon-style check?
Did you register on the GW website? That's about all I know about it. I will be turning in the names from my tournament to GW on monday, and supposedly they handle it all after that. I'm assuming an email, and you put your email on the website when you register.
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Post by: Uriels_Flame
lol, fighting over little soldiers . . . .
Good times. Still waiting to hear about Springfield, MO results. That's where our store went to.
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Post by: Totenkopfer
The contents of this post have been removed. The original poster wanted to keep this in-house and specifically mentioned not wanting it on Dakka. You did this against the user's wishes, and did so to stir up trouble here on Dakka. This is not acceptable behavior. If you continue to violate the Dakka rules, you will receive a temporary suspension. - Iorek
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Post by: generalgrog
This isn't a good sign.
GG
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
...and a rebuttal?
Cleveland, TN Dicehead Games:
1st Dark Eldar (gardeth)
2nd Khorne CSM (Me!)
3rd Daemonhunters (4 LRs!)
I literally missed 1st by a dice roll that ended the game on turn 5. We were not aware of the Random Game Length and I failed to secure the central objective before then because I thought I had another turn.
With two scoring units nearby and more scoring units than the DHs (who has points for Troops with 4 Land Raiders!?) I felt that I had the game by turn 5. Especially since I had already pumelled the same army at the Big WAAAGH tourney a few weeks back....
::sigh:: there's always Chicago!
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Post by: Aldonis
Nice Job Nurgleboy and Gardeth!
Give 'em hell in chi-town!
Way to represent the BnB!
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Post by: Blackmoor
Totenkopfer wrote:
I have decided to bring the issue up here, rather than at some open forum like DakkaDakka or the B&C.
3) Disqualifying or publically “calling him out” for the stuff listed above, in a public area, would have created an issue for the Wrecking Crew in general. That was not, and is not my intention.
He kept the dispute that he had “In house” and did not want to post this on another forum.
So what you did was try to be an internet tough guy and bring this here against the original posters wishes to drag this through the mud.
You should respect his wishes and delete your post.
Edit: I like how you have one post and you choose to make it this.
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Post by: PanamaG
Dashofpepper wrote:
Food poisoning Friday night -
Doesnt food poisoning take like a week to set in?
So is your record 74-1-3 or are you sticking with the status quo and making it 76-1-1
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Post by: Uriels_Flame
Agreed. Your integrity is in question, sir! How do you respond?
And since it's your one and only post, I'm pretty sure how this will go.
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Post by: Kirasu
So even more wrecking crew 'ard boyz drama? There is a reason I have very little inclination to attend the finals and have to deal with BS like this..(True or not, i rather just take my 2500pt army from semis and watch a movie)
The rules about chaos demons in the 'ard boyz rule makes it obvious enough that GW does not condone what happened last year
There is no reason anyone should get their own rules so wrong.. Im a lifetime blood angel player and there I cannot fathom a situation where a tournament BA player would get Dantes rules wrong to that extent
However, Im also not placing blame because I wasnt there and the internet isnt the most reliable
All I know is that, NO self respecting tournament BA player could possibly get CORE rules wrong. If they did, they cheated or are newbies (Which is counter to a "tournament player").. However, Dante could have been within 12" of corbulo and given the impression that the unit received furious charge because of him.. Ive talked to green blow fly and I can say with 100% certainty he knows BA rules and also makes very similar lists to mine for tournaments. BA arent a popular army nowadays so people get confused on all their "bubble radius" abilities.. who knows really
The horror stories from 'ard boyz just means the finals will include ALL of them from every store instead of giving people the chance to avoid certain areas :p
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Aldonis wrote:Nice Job Nurgleboy and Gardeth!
Give 'em hell in chi-town!
Way to represent the BnB!
Thanks, Al! Sharpening my Chainaxe as we speak!
BLADE AND BOLTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Dashofpepper
PanamaG wrote:
Doesnt food poisoning take like a week to set in?
No, it takes about 15 minutes to set in. I pushed my food aside about half-eaten because I had lost my appetite, and by the time we got home, I made a bee-line to the restroom shortly thereafter to begin the circus.
Nice attempt at trolling though! =) I give you a 1/10 for effort; if you had tied it into the thread in any constructive way instead of just flame-bait, you would have gotten at least a two. 
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Post by: asugradinwa
Depending on the cause of food poisoning it takes between 30 minutes- a week to set in. Either way, not very much fun. If I had a case of it there is no way I'd be playing in a tournament the next day.
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Post by: PanamaG
Dashofpepper wrote:
Nice attempt at trolling though! =) I give you a 1/10 for effort; if you had tied it into the thread in any constructive way instead of just flame-bait, you would have gotten at least a two.
Haha I would care but I just gave myself 10/10. Also you didnt answer my question.
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Post by: SandWyrm
jbalthis wrote:Here's the list of armies I counted:
6 Chaos (5 Mech, 1 Mixed)
5 Mech Guard
3 Orks (2 Mech, 1 Horde)
5 Mech Eldar
1 Tau (Mech)
1 Necron (Mostly Destroyers)
1 Black Templar (Mech)
When you say mech, are you claiming full mech?
Yes, full or at least 85% mech (with the correction to the Chaos line above).
I didn't audit everybody's list, but with the exception of an eldar biker squad here or a unit of Rough Riders there, most everyone was packing in as many tanks as they could. Infantry was the definate exception.
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Post by: PanamaG
^ I am curious about that too. Mech is definitely just as strong at 2500.
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Post by: JediRaptor
Wanted to drop the results from the Foley, AL Semi's
1st-Vulkan/DropPods (me)
2nd-Nidzilla
3rd-Seer Council
I tied the Seer Council in the first game, but was able to table my opponent games two and three. I can only wish my Armor Saves hold up in September.
See ya in Chicago!!
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Post by: calltoarms
JediRaptor wrote:Wanted to drop the results from the Foley, AL Semi's
1st-Vulkan/DropPods (me)
2nd-Nidzilla
3rd-Seer Council
I tied the Seer Council in the first game, but was able to table my opponent games two and three. I can only wish my Armor Saves hold up in September.
See ya in Chicago!!
I heard the alabama ard boy allowed three "locals" who did not qualify to play as alternates and, indeed, that the judge played as one of these?!?!?! All blatent hearsay, and you need not even respond, but it was a curious thing that I heard.
I put this out, and read about the other threads, with heavy dissapointment. I went to the pheonix atlanta site, and had a very good time, despite getting crushed a couple of times (Very dissapointed as I was top 10 finals last year, but man, the competition was very good at atlanta this year). We talked there, and now I see it confirmed here, but there are certain groups that seem to think they are entitled to win, place, etc... They'll misquote rules, ask for a judge's intervention, bring ringers to a tournament, or allow people to play who shouldn't in an effort to get them to qualify. Why are people so gd eager to win is a mystery, but it's sad that, in three years of ard boyz, it seems to bring out the worst of this hobby every year.
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Post by: Lorek
Let's keep the accusations to ourselves, people. Rule #1.
Edit - Sorry, this was not directed at Calltoarms! It's a general notice to keep the tone civil and keep out unprovable accusations.
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Post by: Sha1emade
Also. I am one of the guard players and what I run is not mech guard. More balanced or standard. Yes, I have a lots of vehicles. But lots of footsloggers as well. Just am not running standard mec vet list. The list you have states all mech guard. If ya want to be accurate please change. Thanks. The person that posted results for our store was not actually in the same state at the time, so easy mistake to make.
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Post by: Black Blow Fly
Wow just wow! I knew this drama would make it here soon enough. There are so many allegations of various cheats it's hard to think where to start first. I will take a shot at it:
codex - I had both the BA and DH codex with me. I asked my opponent which codex he wanted to see and he told me he would like to see the new SM codex which I did not have since I wasn't playing that list. My opponent told me he would like to review the rules for Vulkan and if combi meltas counted as master crafted.
slow playing - I was on the second table and there were no side boards so I had to set my army cases on the counter by the cash register. I did spend a lot of time thinking out my movement phases as I was up against lash with six Oblits and lots of meltas. A couple of my rhinos were wrecked during the course of the game and I was very careful how I disembarked the units to do my best to keep them out of LOS from lash. I never wasted time and meticously played the game. There were a lot of assaults starting in the second turn and that ate up a lot of time. None of my games made it to a sixth turn. The first game was against Nidz and the second against orkz with two big fully complex squads of nobz. It takes a lot of time to roll wounds and keep track of those failed during close combat, plus rerolls for FNP. I just mention the first two games to compare the time taken for them with the third game.
Army list - I had a 2500 point list but had created an 1850 point list out of habit using the new version of AB. I explained this when asked, I had no more than 2500 points total. It was a non issue in the first two games.
BA landraiders and their version of PotMS - it's different from the new SM version. A stunned or shaken BA landraider can move up to six inches straight and fire one weapon at BS2. I never fired all the weapons on a stunned or shaken landraider.
Corbulo and his exsanguinator - I never disembark this HQ from the crusader carrying the Death Company unless it is wrecked or destroyed. Being embarked helps with the range for furious charge and the exsanguinator. So this HQ was never in close combat the entire tournament nor was either crusader ever wrecked or destroyed.
Pile in moves - the rulebook states you ignore difficult terrain and move unengaged models up to six inches, trying to get all unengaged models into base contact with enemy models. There were a lot of rhinos and and terrain so a lot of the assaults were fought in tight areas which made it difficult to move in all of the unengaged models after assaults were over.
Dante and preferred enemy - Dante does come with furious charge built in but if he and any unit he is attached to are within 12" of the crusader holding Corbulo then they get furious charge. The crusader effectively extends the range of Corbulo's area of affect since you measure from the hull of the crusader. See my note above about keeping Corbulo in the crusader. The turn Dante charged a squad of Death Company he hit four times and I rolled two 3s and two 5s so whether or not he benefited from furious charge that turn had no impact on the wounds dealt that round in close combat.
Landraiders and cover saves from infantry - the rules state that a vehicle is obscured if the side facing which is targeted is covered by at least 50 percent. In this case there was a big assault going on between the crusader being targeted and the Obliterators shooting it. The models in assault easily covered at least 50 percent of the side of the crusader being targeted.
Dante and leadership test for losing combat - Dante is leadership 10. He was joined to 4 - 5 veteran assault Marines who were all killed, leaving him alone and reverting back to a lone independent character. There was a question - does the IC immediately revert back to a lone IC as soon as the squad he had joined is destroyed? I thought this was so. A player on the next table said he does not count as a lone IC until the next turn and the negative modifier for wounds taken for
the destroyed unit apply to his leadership. 4 - 5 veterans died and Dante also suffered a wound. So his effective leadership according to the player on the next table would have been at worst:
10 - 6 = 4
I rolled a three so it was a non issue.
I was suffering from a headache during the final match and asked the TO for some aspirin. He gave me three and I asked the clerk behind the counter if she would get me a diet Coke, which she did... That was awesome on their part.
I could have made a couple of mistakes during the game. No one is perfect and they happen. I never intentionally tried to cheat. I do now realize I was playing very competively and should have spent a lot more time showing the rules for my BA to my opponent. He was very anxious to play as quickly as possible though so please keep that in mind. I enjoyed the game and like my opponent and sincerely feel bad that he was unable to enjoy the game also. It's tough in the third round when two evenly matched generals are slugging it out for a shot to the finals. It's easy to get amped up. I did indeed.
My opponent had a few dodgy moments himself. I spoke with him about them during the course of the game to resolve them then and there. I should have spent more time discussing things that he questioned. That was my fault but again I want to point out there was a lot of pressure to play as quickly as possible. With at least four to five simultaneous assaults all occurring over the course of several turns it took a lot of time to roll all the dice.
I have probably failed to cover some of the points brought out and will go back and try to address any that weren't answered by me. Both of my first two games were a blast to play with no problems that I am aware of. My first game was against another fellow WC member.
I feel bad that yet another incident has occurred that shows my club in a bad light. At the Big Waaagh this year I had a perfect score for sportsmanship and one of my opponents told me our game was by far his favorite and he handily won that one. It's easy for me to get carried away at times but please believe me when I say I am always working towards self improvement as a fun gamer to play. I think I have improved but need to keep working even harder. I have since communicated with my opponent from the third round I and believe we have put this behind us. As I have said I enjoyed the game but felt after learning my opponent did not enjoy the game. I think we both could have done some things differently that would have made for a better game and I will focus on that in the future.
I apologize here to all my club mates for this situation and would one day like to have the opportunity to play my opponent from the third round again to show him I am not all that.
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Automatically Appended Next Post:
Typo/ Dante does not come with furious charge built in but does benefit from this ability if within range of the second HQ, Corbulo.
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Post by: BeefyG
Sounds like a lot of Roid Rage is going on here at these dolly tournaments. 
I find it hilarious that they name the comp 'Ard Boyz' in conjunction with their 'Ard Coat' (read: gloss nail polish) product.
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Post by: Hollismason
I love reading the drama about ard boyz.
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Post by: rednekgunner
I had to deal with someone who was slow playing, (green I am not saying you did or didn't) but I went to the judge and made mention of it before the 3rd round, not after the game. Regardless, it doesn't change a thing, those who lost still lost and we can all wait until next year and try again. I may also point out if you didn't enjoy the place you played either round at, than play in a different area.
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Post by: calltoarms
rednekgunner wrote:I had to deal with someone who was slow playing, (green I am not saying you did or didn't) but I went to the judge and made mention of it before the 3rd round, not after the game. Regardless, it doesn't change a thing, those who lost still lost and we can all wait until next year and try again. I may also point out if you didn't enjoy the place you played either round at, than play in a different area.
A very good point.
You know, with so much talk of "slow play" and "not enough time," I wonder if they'd consider going to three hours instead of 2.5? With the new LOS rules, 2500 points, etc.. etc.., 2.5 doesn't get 6 turns in all that much.
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Post by: willydstyle
calltoarms wrote:rednekgunner wrote:I had to deal with someone who was slow playing, (green I am not saying you did or didn't) but I went to the judge and made mention of it before the 3rd round, not after the game. Regardless, it doesn't change a thing, those who lost still lost and we can all wait until next year and try again. I may also point out if you didn't enjoy the place you played either round at, than play in a different area.
A very good point.
You know, with so much talk of "slow play" and "not enough time," I wonder if they'd consider going to three hours instead of 2.5? With the new LOS rules, 2500 points, etc.. etc.., 2.5 doesn't get 6 turns in all that much.
I disagree. Unless a player is using a horde, 2.5k can easily be finished in 2.5 hours.
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Post by: rednekgunner
Part of the problem is not all of the prelims were enforcing time limits. I think making it 3 hours would be a good compromise between 2.5 and 3.5 hours, right?
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Post by: willydstyle
I just finished a 2k tournament with 2 hour time limits. The only game I didn't finish 1 hour early was against a very slow player who didn't know the rules very well.
I'd say that players who know the rules and play at a reasonable pace should be playing it in 2.5 hours just fine at 2.5k.
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Post by: calltoarms
willydstyle wrote:calltoarms wrote:rednekgunner wrote:I had to deal with someone who was slow playing, (green I am not saying you did or didn't) but I went to the judge and made mention of it before the 3rd round, not after the game. Regardless, it doesn't change a thing, those who lost still lost and we can all wait until next year and try again. I may also point out if you didn't enjoy the place you played either round at, than play in a different area.
A very good point.
You know, with so much talk of "slow play" and "not enough time," I wonder if they'd consider going to three hours instead of 2.5? With the new LOS rules, 2500 points, etc.. etc.., 2.5 doesn't get 6 turns in all that much.
I disagree. Unless a player is using a horde, 2.5k can easily be finished in 2.5 hours.
First, aren't we seeing huge number of hordes lately? Orks, guard, nidz?
And second, you know, truth, I don't disagree with you that it SHOULD be enough time. But the fact that it isn't gives rise to this allegation. Increase 30 more minutes and you'd have at worst a few more minutes in between games for judges to get pairings, tensions to calm down, etc.., and at best, you have 1-2 more turns in a game. (later turns always go a bit faster).
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Post by: Kingsley
Green Blow Fly wrote:Army list - I had a 2500 point list but had created an 1850 point list out of habit using the new version of AB. I explained this when asked, I had no more than 2500 points total. It was a non issue in the first two games.
Can you clarify this?
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Post by: willydstyle
calltoarms wrote:willydstyle wrote:calltoarms wrote:rednekgunner wrote:I had to deal with someone who was slow playing, (green I am not saying you did or didn't) but I went to the judge and made mention of it before the 3rd round, not after the game. Regardless, it doesn't change a thing, those who lost still lost and we can all wait until next year and try again. I may also point out if you didn't enjoy the place you played either round at, than play in a different area.
A very good point.
You know, with so much talk of "slow play" and "not enough time," I wonder if they'd consider going to three hours instead of 2.5? With the new LOS rules, 2500 points, etc.. etc.., 2.5 doesn't get 6 turns in all that much.
I disagree. Unless a player is using a horde, 2.5k can easily be finished in 2.5 hours.
First, aren't we seeing huge number of hordes lately? Orks, guard, nidz?
And second, you know, truth, I don't disagree with you that it SHOULD be enough time. But the fact that it isn't gives rise to this allegation. Increase 30 more minutes and you'd have at worst a few more minutes in between games for judges to get pairings, tensions to calm down, etc.., and at best, you have 1-2 more turns in a game. (later turns always go a bit faster).
Well, in the last round of the tournament that I just attended, my friend with a hord-ey Guard army fought a guy with a horde 'nid army... and they finished with plenty of time to spare.
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Post by: rednekgunner
I think what he did was make his list on AB, but instead of creating a new list he added to his 1850 list. Then the title o the list said 1850 Blood Angels, but the army total was 2500.
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Post by: calltoarms
Fetterkey wrote:Green Blow Fly wrote:Army list - I had a 2500 point list but had created an 1850 point list out of habit using the new version of AB. I explained this when asked, I had no more than 2500 points total. It was a non issue in the first two games.
Can you clarify this?
I don't know GBF, but my guess is, it's the same things I've messed up some times. You create and print a list and the title is completely wrong. Heck, I once created an ork army that read. "Dark Eldar Slave Raiders." Whoops!
GBF, good post, but unnecessary IMHO. One person ranting on a forum does not require a response. The reputation of your group is what it is (To those that like you, a good one , to those that don't, a bad one  ). Let it be.
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Post by: Toxxic
GW should drop Ardboyz tournaments altogether if it causes this much blood boiling drama over a stupid game of toy soldiers. People getting kicked out for making physical threats and other people allegedly cheating? Really? Over a game of toy soldiers?
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Post by: willydstyle
GW should not drop tournaments. They should just actually put some time and money into learning how to actually run them.
Tournaments should be seen as an investment by GW, but unfortunately they are seen as a burden instead.
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Post by: CT GAMER
Dashofpepper wrote:Blackmoor wrote:
From what I was told they both had "issues" and did not finish their tournaments.
Food poisoning Friday night - undercooked Kookaburo wings at the Outback led to a very bad night. :(
I showed up pale-faced Saturday morning nonetheless to give it my best shot. I faced off against Eldar in the first round....we had a ridiculous number of arguments that were just absolutely making it a horrendous game; during turn 2, I was setting up for my initial assault - his jetbike seer council had failed to cast fortune, failed the reroll, and I had Ghazghkull and two trukk boyz squads set to pile into them. He'd rolled such a number of 1s and 2s with his lances and missiles, even with guide that his anti-tank efforts were sorrowful; I felt bad for how bad he was shooting.
On the other side of the table, a battlewagon full of burna boyz rammed through and destroyed a wave serpent/falcon? to disgorge guardians; the burna boys piled out to prepare multi-assaulting the guardians and another squad of melta-carrying eldar somethings. I kid you not, we'd run into a ridiculous number of arguments at this point (some of them my fault too), and the game literally broke at this point. I still don't know the right answer to some of our disputes, and if I care enough later, I'll go to YMDC and ask.
I moved in and multi-assaulted....I can't even describe the bunched up stuff and scenario (it was a tight mess) and my opponent accused me of cheating because he thought I could have gotten more models into base contact, which would have prevented another one of my squads from assaulting one of his vehicles. I moved my models back to where they were (deployed outside the battlewagon without having moved) so that I could show him precisely how I had moved them and how, and my opponent told me that it didn't matter, I could have repositioned them anyway I wanted. I offered to let him place my models however he wanted because I didn't want to win and be called a cheater for having done so. He then picked up some of his models and re-arranged them on the board and said something to the effect of (I don't remember the exact words) "If you're going to cheat, then I will too."
I put my hands up and said, "You know what, you can have it - this isn't worth it." I packed up my models, went home, took some more Immodium and slept the rest of the day away.
Now, in hindsight I'm a little frustrated at myself. Typically I don't care what people think about me, but my opponent was someone I already knew and whose opinion I respect and was trying hard to make a good gaming impression with (I know, it wasn't an RTT). Combining that with the fact that I was drained and unsteady on my feet as it was, and was going to have to spend Sunday catching up on work, and something clicked in my head and said, "This is not worth the trouble I am going though."
My friends at the tournament called me last night on their way home and told me that he got into several other big arguments and ultimately didn't do well; I was hoping the massacre I gave up first round by conceding would have at least helped him get placed.
*shrugs* It was just not a day for me to be willing to throw down in an argument. Can't honestly say how the game would have went because he had killed a couple of my vehicles and in return had failed his fortune rolls with his seer council and was bunched up (my favorite) and I had just declared a Waaaugh! and was piling into his Eldar. Its ultimately irrelevant because I conceded my game, and chalked up a loss.
Wow! if that post doesnt sell "competitive" 40K to the kiddos I don't know what will...
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Post by: calltoarms
willydstyle wrote:GW should not drop tournaments. They should just actually put some time and money into learning how to actually run them.
Tournaments should be seen as an investment by GW, but unfortunately they are seen as a burden instead.
Agreed. Magic runs an amazing tournament structure. Maybe GW can take notes?
On another line, I posted earlier about the ordeal in alabama. Someone else was had some issues besides my buddy.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/251730.page
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Post by: rednekgunner
I think that ard boyz should stay. The tournament just needs a little more adjustment to the format. I feel like if you talk to most people, they would say in general they had a great time and were able to play other people than they normally do.
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Post by: Gornall
I think only like 2 games didn't go the full turns at my Semis. At least one of those was horde vs horde.
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Post by: Kirasu
The problem stems from the fact that GW refuses to produce FAQs and they dont *want* to take notes from wizards because they dont give a damn about tournaments
Its really an amazing train of thought .. A lot of games wouldnt be nearly as popular without tournaments to push people to buy new product.. Thats how MTG works and hell even counter strike is popular because of tournaments
What we NEED to do is convince people to use a standard FAQ such as adepticon.. Until there are standard rules and procedures and actual accountability then nothing will change
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Post by: rednekgunner
Kirasu wrote:The problem stems from the fact that GW refuses to produce FAQs and they dont *want* to take notes from wizards because they dont give a damn about tournaments
Its really an amazing train of thought .. A lot of games wouldnt be nearly as popular without tournaments to push people to buy new product.. Thats how MTG works and hell even counter strike is popular because of tournaments
What we NEED to do is convince people to use a standard FAQ such as adepticon.. Until there are standard rules and procedures and actual accountability then nothing will change
Good point.
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Post by: willydstyle
Kirasu wrote:The problem stems from the fact that GW refuses to produce FAQs and they dont *want* to take notes from wizards because they dont give a damn about tournaments
Its really an amazing train of thought .. A lot of games wouldnt be nearly as popular without tournaments to push people to buy new product.. Thats how MTG works and hell even counter strike is popular because of tournaments
What we NEED to do is convince people to use a standard FAQ such as adepticon.. Until there are standard rules and procedures and actual accountability then nothing will change
If there was a standard FAQ that was actually based on the rules more people would want to use it.
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Post by: Black Blow Fly
My list was created in AB with an 1850 point upper cap by habit. I then simply added enough units and wargear to bring the total up to 2500 points. As I have said it was not a problem with my first two opponents.
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Post by: rednekgunner
Green Blow Fly wrote:My list was created in AB with an 1850 point upper cap by habit. I then simply added enough units and wargear to bring the total up to 2500 points. As I have said it was not a problem with my first two opponents.
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nor should it be. Any player should be able to read the total on the bottom of the roster. I also use AB, and I vaguely remember there being a box that says total cost.
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Post by: Hollismason
It's the ultimate hypocrisy ; this is a casual game , wait let's hold a Tournament.
That doesn't even make sense on one hand they insist that it is casual play then run a tournament.
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Post by: Sidstyler
Uriels_Flame wrote:lol, fighting over little soldiers . . . .
Good times. Still waiting to hear about Springfield, MO results. That's where our store went to.
Oh, you went to Metagames then? That's my "local" store (I live in Lebanon). 
What'd you think of the store? I don't want to diss my own FLGS at all, but they really don't have the best tables do they? Felt terrain, lots of unpainted stuff, etc. Most of the armies there (including mine, sadly) are unpainted so I guess it makes sense that they don't put any more effort into them, but still.
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Post by: mikhaila
willydstyle wrote:calltoarms wrote:rednekgunner wrote:I had to deal with someone who was slow playing, (green I am not saying you did or didn't) but I went to the judge and made mention of it before the 3rd round, not after the game. Regardless, it doesn't change a thing, those who lost still lost and we can all wait until next year and try again. I may also point out if you didn't enjoy the place you played either round at, than play in a different area.
A very good point.
You know, with so much talk of "slow play" and "not enough time," I wonder if they'd consider going to three hours instead of 2.5? With the new LOS rules, 2500 points, etc.. etc.., 2.5 doesn't get 6 turns in all that much.
I disagree. Unless a player is using a horde, 2.5k can easily be finished in 2.5 hours.
After running a 40 person regional, I think that 3 hours would be a good thing to go to.Less than half the games played got in 6 turns during the time limit.
The problem though, is finishing the day. A half hour between rounds is barely enough time for the TO to get scores recorded and announce the next round. Score sheets don't get magically done at the end of the game, especially when players have to also figure victory points. Automatically Appended Next Post: Sidstyler wrote:Uriels_Flame wrote:lol, fighting over little soldiers . . . .
Good times. Still waiting to hear about Springfield, MO results. That's where our store went to.
Oh, you went to Metagames then? That's my "local" store (I live in Lebanon).
What'd you think of the store? I don't want to diss my own FLGS at all, but they really don't have the best tables do they? Felt terrain, lots of unpainted stuff, etc. Most of the armies there (including mine, sadly) are unpainted so I guess it makes sense that they don't put any more effort into them, but still.
Turn the logic around. If the store doesn't put in effort, why should the players ? A store can encourage players to do better if they do better.
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Post by: asugradinwa
Anyone have the reason why "Tony" got kicked out of the tournament? I've never heard of anything like that.
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Post by: Lemartes
Any one have a great time since negative press seems to get all the attention. I really was not prepared for this years Ardboyz myself as I have been on hiatus playing other systems and fantasy lately. Showed up with last years list which was 4th edition based and still held my own but did not do well enough for a top spot. I heard thier were multiple Utah stores for Semi's this year.
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Post by: asugradinwa
I had a really fun time. Had the funest game in ages against a guy from Oregon in the 3rd round. Calgar vs Vulkan with such fun as turn 1 scout assaults, an entire amy shooting at 3 land speeders (and only killing 2!), 6 thunderhammer terminators bouncing off a landraider for 3 straight assault phases, and one tactical marine holding the center objective on turn 5 with a "2" result for does the game go on roll.
Otherwise, the other two games were fine, though the 2nd game did start to get slow at the end while I was trying to get the full 24. But I guess that was because he hadn't played against 5th edition assault marines and Vulkan yet.
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Post by: Uriels_Flame
Sidstyler wrote:Uriels_Flame wrote:lol, fighting over little soldiers . . . .
Good times. Still waiting to hear about Springfield, MO results. That's where our store went to.
Oh, you went to Metagames then? That's my "local" store (I live in Lebanon).
What'd you think of the store? I don't want to diss my own FLGS at all, but they really don't have the best tables do they? Felt terrain, lots of unpainted stuff, etc. Most of the armies there (including mine, sadly) are unpainted so I guess it makes sense that they don't put any more effort into them, but still.
My gaming group went, but I haven't heard any results yet. Our local FLGS shut down today because the owner went down with our winners. Just waiting to hear.
Guess I'll call them tomorrow.
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Post by: Sidstyler
mikhaila wrote:Turn the logic around. If the store doesn't put in effort, why should the players ? A store can encourage players to do better if they do better.
I guess it's kind of a catch 22. Store doesn't put effort into its terrain so the players don't put effort into their armies and vice versa.
Really I should be painting right now, but...I'm not. This happens every weekend.
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Post by: olympia
Green Blow Fly wrote:
Dante and leadership test for losing combat - Dante is leadership 10. He was joined to 4 - 5 veteran assault Marines who were all killed, leaving him alone and reverting back to a lone independent character. There was a question - does the IC immediately revert back to a lone IC as soon as the squad he had joined is destroyed? I thought this was so. A player on the next table said he does not count as a lone IC until the next turn and the negative modifier for wounds taken for
the destroyed unit apply to his leadership. 4 - 5 veterans died and Dante also suffered a wound. So his effective leadership according to the player on the next table would have been at worst:
10 - 6 = 4
I rolled a three so it was a non issue.
Lol, good try though! Seriously, this question comes up everyone once in a while in YMDC and it is generally considered to be a "noob" type question. Just as multiple units all test at the same negative modifier for wounds suffered in assaults so would ANY attached IC. I'm surprised someone of your vast experience and post count on dakka was unfamiliar with this. Good luck in the next round!
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Post by: Bentley
CatPeeler wrote:asugradinwa wrote:...and the Chaos Deamons could not down the last fire prism contesting the center object in Catpeeler's game.
You ain't kiddin'. Over two rounds, I must have had...12-15 glances and 5-8 pens on that @$%^#$^&ing fire prism, and couldn't do a damn thing. It's enough to give a guy an anyeurism, I tells ya...
Still made Chicago by one point (!), so I can't really complain.
I had to get some justice for my poor bikers.
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Post by: Orkish
PanamaG wrote:Dashofpepper wrote:
Nice attempt at trolling though! =) I give you a 1/10 for effort; if you had tied it into the thread in any constructive way instead of just flame-bait, you would have gotten at least a two.
Haha I would care but I just gave myself 10/10. Also you didnt answer my question.
Actually he already answered you. If he win, he wins. If he loses, it's the opponent's fault, so it doesnt count. Sounds familiar doesnt it?
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Post by: Dashofpepper
Orkish wrote:PanamaG wrote:Dashofpepper wrote:
Nice attempt at trolling though! =) I give you a 1/10 for effort; if you had tied it into the thread in any constructive way instead of just flame-bait, you would have gotten at least a two.
Haha I would care but I just gave myself 10/10. Also you didnt answer my question.
Actually he already answered you. If he win, he wins. If he loses, it's the opponent's fault, so it doesnt count. Sounds familiar doesnt it?
Nice flame-bait you've got there! If you had read my post, I *did* answer the question, which was that I was chalking up another loss since I conceded. Guess you're not really interested in content though, just trolling?
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Can you girls take this outside?
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Post by: Orkish
He is not a girl, he is a troll
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Post by: Frazzled
PanamaG wrote:Dashofpepper wrote:
Food poisoning Friday night -
Doesnt food poisoning take like a week to set in?
Not necessarily. I know, oh I know...  I know that, down in Houston, one player was threatening another player. The threatening player ended up losing, so all was right in the world.
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Post by: Orkish
That person couldnt have been the troll. Don't forget he has got 74-1-1 record. It cant be him. Nothing you say shall convince me, nothing.
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Post by: Frazzled
Modquisition on:
Nurgleboy77 is 100% correct.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Nurgleboy77 is 100% correct.
Should I be like GWAR! and sig this? lol
I had a great time at the semis and never played a bad opponent. My first didn't know the rules very well and insisted I show him each correction I told him, but I could so there weren't any issues really.
My group took 1st, 2nd, and 4th in the tourney of around 30 people.
BLADE AND BOLTER!!!!!!
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Post by: Centurian99
I had a great time, with good opponents.
Only real rules question that came up was what happens to null zone when the librarian gets killed - does it terminate immediately, or does it persist until the end of the turn. We played that it persisted, after looking through our rulesbooks and talking to the store owner, who couldn't figure it out as well.
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Post by: Gornall
I had a great time at the Dayton Semis. Three great opponents with 3 well-fought games. My only regret is the 2 mistakes I made that cost me a shot at 3rd place.
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Post by: windswept313
Warmaster Primus wrote:Blackmoor wrote:I wonder how tonytheman did.
After shooting off his mouth in this thread, I wonder if he could back it up.
Same with Dash of Pepper, since he is 74-1-1 and only plays for the money. He might have made it since he plays Orks and the top 2 finishers at his semis were ork players.
I was at the Media PA event, and Tony got kicked out for threatening another player.
Yeah, dude was a total Asshat and deserved to be kicked out. It was funny to see this inflated guy picking on anyone half his size. If he had a legitimate gripe it sure wasnt heard. He had to have Mall security kick him out. The things he said were grounds for charges of harrassment and other offenses. Telling people you are going to take them out in the parking lot is threatening. I really wish i wasnt so far away from that table when it happened i would have loved to have shut him up. Either way once someone the same size as him stepped up to him he backed down pretty quickly which was actually my friend i came down with.
The down side to this situation is that the guy he was playing and was threatended was awarded full game points (24). I understand there game did not get to finish but those 24 points hurt other players in contention and he did not earn them. if anything a massacre would have been fine (20) but giving up the bonus points too was a bit over the top.
Oh my it was hillarious. Did Tony wait in the parking lot to take out kids half his size like he so strongly said he would? He is so lucky he didnt because a bunch of us planned to jump his goofy ass and scream WAAAAGH when we did it. Not to mention get it on video and put it out here.
Ill MOD myself just a little but i was there and it needed to be made clear tha tthis person is not only goofy here he is a in real life to.
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Post by: Strimen
For the Semi's in Kitchener first place was a Dual Seer jetbike council with 69 points, that I fought first round. Sadly I didn't bring null zone and so I lost that first game and then went on too table my next two opponents and placed 6th. :(
Haha, but thats what I expected with a 45 kill point army. Lose the first round, win by slaughter in the next two. Not sure what the second and third placed armies were, but the second place guy was shocked/pissed he didn't get first with 68 points.
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Post by: Frazzled
windswept313 wrote:Warmaster Primus wrote:Blackmoor wrote:I wonder how tonytheman did.
After shooting off his mouth in this thread, I wonder if he could back it up.
Same with Dash of Pepper, since he is 74-1-1 and only plays for the money. He might have made it since he plays Orks and the top 2 finishers at his semis were ork players.
I was at the Media PA event, and Tony got kicked out for threatening another player.
Yeah, dude was a total Asshat and deserved to be kicked out. It was funny to see this inflated guy picking on anyone half his size. If he had a legitimate gripe it sure wasnt heard. He had to have Mall security kick him out. The things he said were grounds for charges of harrassment and other offenses. Telling people you are going to take them out in the parking lot is threatening. I really wish i wasnt so far away from that table when it happened i would have loved to have shut him up. Either way once someone the same size as him stepped up to him he backed down pretty quickly which was actually my friend i came down with.
Check your PM
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Post by: Dashofpepper
Orkish (or anyone else); if you're comfortable enough to belittle me on the forums because of your skill, I'd invite you to put your models on the table and game with me. If you can beat me in a game, I'll pay for your cost of travel + $100 (agreed upon in advance) provided that you are willing to take that same sum and contribute it to me should I win. =)
I'd always rather have a game than suffer through internet smack-talk, and what better way to humble me than an all-expense paid trip to do so?
Of course, if you're just being an internet tough guy....I understand.
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Post by: Frazzled
All right all right enough of that talk, unless you bring a camera. Internet fueled smack down games that are fully batrepped with photos and accompanying pics of distraught loser (Mauleed faked weepy face...excellent!!!) are the stuff of Dakka legend.
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Post by: asugradinwa
Dash- Instead of wasting the money on getting one guy to play you you should end up saving it and go to one of the GT's next year and then you can get a few challenge games in on the day before the tournament. Kill two birds with one stone.
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Post by: Orkish
Dashofpepper wrote:Orkish (or anyone else); if you're comfortable enough to belittle me on the forums because of your skill, I'd invite you to put your models on the table and game with me. If you can beat me in a game, I'll pay for your cost of travel + $100 (agreed upon in advance) provided that you are willing to take that same sum and contribute it to me should I win. =)
I'd always rather have a game than suffer through internet smack-talk, and what better way to humble me than an all-expense paid trip to do so?
Of course, if you're just being an internet tough guy....I understand.
If you realized (which I dont think you do, until now), we didnt even have to do anything. You made a fool of yourself
Oh, and save that pathetic penny of yours. I ll pay for your air fare here, table you, and sent you back to your hometown with some GW gifts.
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Post by: olympia
More Tau players need to come to this thread and join the smack-talk.
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Post by: Ketara
Alongside the Necron players.
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Post by: Ketara
Double post, please delete.
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Post by: Augustus
Centurian99 wrote:I had a great time, with good opponents.
Only real rules question that came up was what happens to null zone when the librarian gets killed - does it terminate immediately, or does it persist until the end of the turn. We played that it persisted, after looking through our rulesbooks and talking to the store owner, who couldn't figure it out as well.
Me too, good time with good opponents!
I found a really strange rules issue in my first game with a Valkyrie. I fired a fire prism cannon at a Valkyrie on a board edge, it deviated onto the wing of the valkyrie fair neatly,... which was off the table edge (the entire valkyrie base was on though). What happens?
We called it a miss for being off table. Hmm, YMDC thread here I come.
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Post by: gardeth
please delete.
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Post by: Dashofpepper
asugradinwa wrote:Dash- Instead of wasting the money on getting one guy to play you you should end up saving it and go to one of the GT's next year and then you can get a few challenge games in on the day before the tournament. Kill two birds with one stone.
Someone somewhere needs to fill me in on all of this. =p 40k would be even more fun if braggarts and trolls were willing to put money where their mouth is. =p
*EDIT* And Orkish, you really should follow Rule #1. I've made you a friendly offer; there's no need to open your mouth and prove your intelligence to us.
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Post by: Frazzled
Modquisition on: This thread has been reported for something like the seventh time. I am closing it due to flaming. If persons wish to play internet tough guy please arrange a game at the next GT or sideline via pm and be sure to post pics. 
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