Dashofpepper wrote:Actually, I disagree with the destroyers. 30 Boyz can chase down and kill 3 destroyers.

You get to move 12" per turn and shoot, or turbo-boost 24". The boyz can spread across the board and force you into contact. You'll kill a couple per turn, but you'll be assaulted regardless. Even if you back up to your rear table edge, when the boyz are 12-18" away they can assault you. If you turboboost over them to try getting away, you can only go 24"....which puts you 12" on the other side of them and still in assault range.

3 Destroyers aren't killing 30 Boyz.

The boyz can move 12" a turn tops (until they assault of course), but on average they will move about 9.5". Compared to 12" every time and 24" when needed for the destroyers. I can see what you are suggesting and I am well aware that 30 orks can take up a lot of room (one of my regular opponents plays Horde orks) but why do you assume I would move into a back corner? If the destroyers move laterally they are much harder to catch instead of just backing away into a corner; plus by the time the orkz are able to reach the Destroyers they wont have their full thirty, probably closer to 10-15 (3 destroyers kill 5 boyz a turn on average), it's not too hard to avoid just 10 models. Also keeping in mind the most important factor which is destroyers can turbo boost at any point, not just when they find themselves trapped in a corner. Sure, it will take a while but the destroyers will wear them down eventually.

Summoned lesser daemons. max squad. Waagh!

5 scouts cambat blades with storm

The greatest unit in the game is simple, My grey knight terminators, led by Brother Captain C. Norris. lol, I am sorry to say we actully did the rules up for it. This is a warning on the horrible effects of warhammer mixed with booze, warhammered.

seriously, when it comes to beeting the terminators, how about ANYTHING that is ordinance AP2. Hell I'd take 3 Looted Wagons with Boom Guns! 315pts.

Dude.
What are you smoking?
At least my Ork Codex states that Boomgun is AP 3.
But to counter Looted Wagons.
Hmmmm....
8 Deffkoptas with rokkit launchas.
340 pts

A demolisher squadron of 2, stripped. 330 pts.

2 standard IG melta vet squads

200 pts .. i think.

30 shoota boyz with 3 big shootas.

195

7 grey knights. Pumping out shots at 24" each hits can kill a ork.

200 pts.

Deciever 300pts

C'Tan?! That's easy. 3 Broadside Battlesuits with twin-linked railguns on the other side of the board. 200-300pts.

3 broadside?....

1 Colossus, wounds on 2+ ignores save and cover.

160pts.

[Chosen] wrote:
3 broadside?....

1 Colossus, wounds on 2+ ignores save and cover.

160pts.

The Colossus is AP 3 and the Broadsides have a 2+ save, not sure thats going to work.

I think that 8 Imperial guard storm troopers with 2 meltaguns and a plasma pistol using the airborne assault special mission have a decent shot at killing both of those.

Comes to 163 points.

Sorry about that, didn't thought they were 2+. But yes I agree with that line up. The plasmas are going to hurt alot.

8 Screaming Berzerkers running right at you. - 168pts

How many Incubi can you get for that?

Three or four? I'll go with them.

sly marbo's demolishion charge - 65pts.

Orkeosaurus- an equal amount of boyz with a nob/PK

Sly marbo.......the same?

The Angry Commissar wrote:sly marbo's demolishion charge - 65pts.

me being somewhere else.... lol.

but grey knight terminator w/ hammerhand. three STR 8 attacks--56 points

or, callidus assassin - 120 points. but that's a little too much.

Sly Marbo is defeated by Kill Points.

With all due respect, marbo is like a cheap imitation of callidus.

with emphasis on cheap. hes pretty much the best character you can get in the IG book for anywhere near the points. stacken would be a good investment (95) or yarrick (185) i have tanks that run less than yarrick lol...

The Callidus assassin doesn't have a demo charge, needs an inquisitor so it can be fielded and costs just under twice as many points. Marbo is an excellent bargain ^^

Oh and an armored sentinel with a plasma cannon should kill the GK termie or the Callidus.

75 points.

you can get marbo and the callidus both...should be great fun on the battlefield!

Marbo kills the Sentinel. 65 points.

Nobody_Holme wrote:Marbo kills the Sentinel. 65 points.

SoB Palatine W/h Inferno pistol\Power weapon 60pts

does the the palantine have; *clears throat* fearless, fleet, move through cover, stealth, He's behind you, a CC weapon the wounds on a 2+, I5, 4 base attacks, WS5, an AP 2 pistol, melta bombs, and a demo charge?


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marbo is just dirty.

The Angry Commissar wrote:does the the palantine have; *clears throat* fearless, fleet, move through cover, stealth, He's behind you, a CC weapon the wounds on a 2+, I5, 4 base attacks, WS5, an AP 2 pistol, melta bombs, and a demo charge?


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marbo is just dirty.

QFT

Game, Set and Match to AngryCommisar.

Tomb spyder of 2 - 110 pts.

Dice paladin in half.

The Angry Commissar wrote:does the the palantine have; *clears throat* fearless, fleet, move through cover, stealth, He's behind you, a CC weapon the wounds on a 2+, I5, 4 base attacks, WS5, an AP 2 pistol, melta bombs, and a demo charge?


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marbo is just dirty.

True that, however swap the power sword for cloak and you can have a 2+ inv with the faith power, That would prolly allow for her to survive and get her own back next turn.
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Basilisk 200" away.

Thanks.

You guys always say that like it matters to deep striking units lol. SM assault terminator squad.

bloodthirster. 250 points. daemonic incursion. I WIN. lol

Can't decide whether to go for....
2 Demolishers..... or
2 tyrants, one dakka, one winged.
Both seem good.
Tyrants probably. Tyranids are my first army.

Eversor for 85 pts, infiltratie 12 in charge, always wounds on a 4+ ignoring armour saves, pistol always wnds on a 4+, glances always on a 4+ any armour, and blows up when you finally kills him, oh and can always fire his pistol twice lol.

I'm not sure about what kind Eversor is, so sorry if this is very bad.
Leman Russ Punisher, about 180 points (?)
As I think that Eversor doesn't have anything against tanks

He can... If the tank doesnt see him first.

3 suicide termies with combi meltas, 105 points.

Sly Marbo.

65 pts.

20 Chaos Space Marines: Icon of Tzeentch, 2x Plasma Guns, Aspiring Champion, Power Fist all of yours for just under 400pts.

still 17 rapid firing bolters will spoil Sly Marbos day

For 300 more points than he is... the goal is to shoot for UNDER the points value, not as far over it as you can.

Sly Marbo is defeated by... a Counts As Sly Marbo coming on from reserve after him.

Caution: This may cause paradox, and the world ending.

I think Sly Marbo should be against the rules. We've already come to the conclusion that the only way to beat him is to use something worth more points.

The new IG unit with 80 ft range. GG everything.

We've already been down this path. One deep striking GKT.

nyyman wrote:I'm not sure about what kind Eversor is, so sorry if this is very bad.
Leman Russ Punisher, about 180 points (?)
As I think that Eversor doesn't have anything against tanks

Eversor is the close combat assassin and always glances on a 6 in close combat, I was wrong about the 4+


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and for the record, after rolling ten times, marbo only killed the evorsor twice, if he does not kill hte assassin with his demo charge, he gets shot up and then usauualy killed in combat.

Nobody_Holme wrote:Sly Marbo is defeated by... a Counts As Sly Marbo coming on from reserve after him.

Caution: This may cause paradox, and the world ending.

Hi am am back i have been lurking in rogue market latly I say yes slymarbo is out becaus eyou can not counter another unit it with the same unit and say it is genaric, and i say to marbo a tellion with his squad dead

a answer to all your problems 120 grots 240 points

Three crisis suits with TL flamers, two gun drones each, and another squad of 2 TL flamers with two gun drones each. They'll burn the grots inside out, for 235 points.

8 Howling banshees with exarch and 5 fire dragons. 220 points if memory serves.

6 chaos spawn-240pts. Your hitting him on 3's wounding him on 6's. He moves as if in difficult terrain, has fleet, and charges 12". 24" Charge range max......so I doubt they're gonna get shot by your silly dragons.

3 War walkers with 2 scatter lasers each. 180

a iron clad with mm and frags

a 5 man blood angel squad with a meltagun and powerfist sarge.

5 Gh's, p-fist, meltagun and MotW

still cheaper than your BA.

5 fire dragons, 80 points

5-10 Lootas, from 75 points to 150 points, depending on do you want to kill them in one shooting round or two

1 skorcha 40pts.

How about

Wolf Lord w\ Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Thunderwolf Mount, Saga of the Warrior Born, Saga of the Bear, Saga of the Beastslayer (285points)

Attached to 5 Thunderwolf Cavalry all w\Frost blade and Storm Shield (525 points)

need2thump wrote:How about

Wolf Lord w\ Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Thunderwolf Mount, Saga of the Warrior Born, Saga of the Bear, Saga of the Beastslayer (285points)

Attached to 5 Thunderwolf Cavalry all w\Frost blade and Storm Shield (525 points)

The idea was to stay close to the point value of the previous unit. So the above is in no way following the nature of the thread.

so in lieu of this I propose:

For the skorcha... 5 Black templars with a lascannon... or a mmelta (because it has to get close)

ok, lone wolf with SS\TH - 80

2 MM attack bikes.
That lone wolf will be melta skrag before he even sees them

Alright how about 2 heavy destroyers. They out range you and instakill you HA

Battle wagon with zzap gun, continuously backs up while shooting.

160 points

despoiler52 wrote:Battle wagon with zzap gun, continuously backs up while shooting.

160 points

Winged CD DP, deepstriking. around 150 pts

Land Raider Crusader (250) containing:

Karsarro Khan (160)

Librarian, epistolary with Avenger and Null Zone (100)

7 Assault Terminators, 5 LC and 2 TH/SS

790 points, but it outflanks, gets Furious Charge, and can pop off a template of AP3 nastiness and force rerolled passed invul saves.

@ NuggzTheNinja not in the name of the thread

first panda man WHAT, and two NuggzTheNinja READ THE RULES you have broken almost every one of them for the thread.

Chuck Norris with a BB Gun = Enough points

MEANWHILE Grey Knight Grandmaster with Grimoire of True Names - 160pts ish

Predator Annihalator (Or however you spell it)-165 points.

7 Swooping Hawks deepstriking then assaulting (next turn) 159 pts

Addicted to Bleach wrote:7 Swooping Hawks deepstriking then assaulting (next turn) 159 pts

3 Warwalkers w/ 2 ShuriCannons each, 18 shots 160 pts...

Vendetta 90 pts (I think)

Khorne lord with bloodfeeder, juggernaught 170pts up to 18 pwr weapon attacks at S6 i think

A. your almost one hundred points above me and B. Im faster than you with more range and C. Even if you get into HTH you need sixes to hit

JD21290 wrote:1 gretchin - 3

1 gretchin with invulnerable save - 8 pts

How does that beat a Vendetta?

How about an SAG bigmek? That can beat a Vendetta, the odds are good (not that good though)

Lictor Coming from veeeery close.
I would have said Marbo but that is forbidden now...

War walker with dual eml 70 pts

Three Deff Koptas (T5, well under 150 points for 3 basic koptas) that outflank and do nothing but 24" turbo-boost (3+cover) and hide behind terrain to contest an objective on Turn 5.

A. your Double the point cost B. you are toughness 4(5) so you are insta killed by my warwalkers emls C. I hav longer range

Against the War Walker...

1x XV88
- Advanced Stabilization System

80 points.

3 chaos terminators w/ combi plasmas 105 (sorry smallest squad posible) Deepstriking

3 Meganobz-120

1 Defiler

5 TH/SS terminators=200 pts

You going down defiler

1 Vindicator-115
5 Grey Hunters with PG-85

210 points.

1 Leman Russ Demolisher with Plasma cannons

205 points

Guardsman Mar...
I mean Veteran squad with meltas dropping out of Turbo-boosting Valkyrie.
Not sure about points but should be about 200 points.

Lord_Thallium wrote:1 Leman Russ Demolisher with Plasma cannons

205 points

2 Broadsides with 4 Shield Drones

200 points

3 Tomb Spyders and 5 scarab swarms- 225 points ) I think)

Fire Prism with all the trimmings

~200 points


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Good luck catching it.

Hydra Attack Gun? Not sure bout the points.

Iron priest on a thunder wolf with 4 cyber wolves 155pts

deamon hunters orbital strikes
lance torpedo
melta torpedo
150 pts



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or even space wolves psyker......Jaws of the worlf wolf!!


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world*

Orb strikes are illegal

Tri wrote:Iron priest on a thunder wolf with 4 cyber wolves 155pts

5 dark reapers, Exarch with Crack shot and Tempest launcher

About 200 points, someone else can be more precise than me

Librarian epistolary with terminator armor, SS, gate of infinity, and quickining. 175ish pts

Have actually done this to Dark reapers, squishy, squishy

5 Pariahs- 180 points.

Hammerhead (140)
- Ion Cannon, Burst Cannons, Multi-tracker, Target Array, Disruption Pods

2 Broadsides

5 swooping hawks inc. exarch with sunrifle and intercept

10 swooping hawks inc. exarch with sunrifle and intercept

380ish- close to the first target- I'l be laughing at your guardsmen. Haywaire grenades = 15 2's to glance on your hyrdas that will be staying still and grenade packs= squishy

fartime wrote:5 swooping hawks inc. exarch with sunrifle and intercept

10 swooping hawks inc. exarch with sunrifle and intercept

380ish- close to the first target- I'l be laughing at your guardsmen. Haywaire grenades = 15 2's to glance on your hyrdas that will be staying still and grenade packs= squishy

Only time these guys can easily trump a unit SkyClaws +wulfen+power weapon +flamer 215pts add on a wolf guard with power fist and jump pack 63pts total. Total 278pts

Hey guys I would rather make this into a "beat this army" post so feel free to post on mine

fartime wrote:5 swooping hawks inc. exarch with sunrifle and intercept

10 swooping hawks inc. exarch with sunrifle and intercept

380ish- close to the first target- I'l be laughing at your guardsmen. Haywaire grenades = 15 2's to glance on your hyrdas that will be staying still and grenade packs= squishy

Guard Infantry platoon with more plasma than you can shake a stick at.

Eversor Assassin. 95 points. He'll dust pretty much anything, given the chance.

Fafnir wrote:Eversor Assassin. 95 points. He'll dust pretty much anything, given the chance.

Lone wolf with a Frost Blade and 2 wolves 65pts

2 Defilers approx 70 inches away.


BATTLECANNON GOODNESS

oh and thats 300 pts btw

5 TH/SS Grey Knight terminators=251 pts

1x Ravager (120)
- 3x Disintegrators

1 Necron Lord-Warscythe, Destroyer Body-140 points.

1 Grey Knight Grand Master. No need for extra fixings. -145 points.

Guardsman Marbo?

But no, three squads of guardsmen with no addons - 150 points.

2 LW with TDA, 2 WC. That's 130 points for a 8 power weapon attacks with re rolls for hits or wounds.

EX

3 talos. or 3 wraithlords with Lances. or 3 Hammerhead, disruptoin, flechette discharger, sms, multitracker. Kills so much. or 3 Vindicator tanks 24" away on your turn. Or 3 BW killakannon, Lobba, 4 bigshootas 11,12,12 lootas inside bigmek with KFF. Little ring of grechten surrounding them = Pwn. Or 2 BikMeks with SAG both rolling Double 6s and erasing some really expensive units.

1 Emperor Class Titan (For all of the above)

Paintbrushturkey wrote:1 Emperor Class Titan (For all of the above)

6 Gargantuan Squigoths or 3 Hierophant Bio-titans ... Gargantuan creatures are better then the same points of any vehicle.

An IED under the table would do 6 Squigs in easy.

Read the rules, no apocalypse models!

Ok i dont know what i'm trying to beat so ill say:

Pheonix court of Khaine!!!

pts:1390!!

Not being serious i would say tipping the table over and jumping up and down on the previous model would beat it. and if not on a table, just jumping up and down on it.

Srsly, rune preist just uses jaws of the world wold

LRC with a techmarine inside

How many points is an Ironclad in a Drop Pod?

Grahzskull Thraka with Mad Dok Grotsnik and the rest of the Troop is made of meganobs...oh...wait..Yeah..Did I forget to mention they are within Assault Range Already?

Should be something like 745 Points

2 units of 32 gaunts. all having spine fist and nothing else. 320pts.
try and kill all of those.

Land raider redeemer (you can't even chip the paint on that thing with spinegaunts)

1 Troop of Eldar Pathfinders in cover giving them their +2 cover save and a Warlock to give them the ability to re roll all hits and wounds!

So wait the goal of this game is to beat the unit so its no longer on the table right? Would gaunts without numbers break this game?

Vesarto think your choice is going to struggle v something decent CC rolling up in a LRC

farseer with stones doom and fortune on a bike with 10 warlocks on bikes warlocks have
embolden + spear
enhance + spear
embolden
enhance
destructor + spear
destructor x5

719 points and arguably the toughest unit in the game to kill. infact i think it is the hardest unit in the game to kill.

You realise you're supposed to stick to approximatly the previous player's points value, right?
Sticking to that, 720 points of guardsmen w/flashlights.
K, Thanks, Bye.

You know wthis thread might be better if you did somethign like

post your toughest unit for 250 points or less.

720 pts worth of guardsmen...

3 whirlwinds about 250 points

two ravagers and a raider. 265 pts
you cannot penetrate their uber thick armour

3 griffons 225 points.

Paintbrushturkey wrote:Land raider redeemer (you can't even chip the paint on that thing with spinegaunts)

Vasarto wrote:1 Troop of Eldar Pathfinders in cover giving them their +2 cover save and a Warlock to give them the ability to re roll all hits and wounds!

dude, its a redeemer, as in it has the two heaviest flamers in the game, they ignore cover and wound on a two, not to mention the only dude in the squad capable of hurting it is the warlock, and even he might be able to.

In response to the redeemer (240 points):

Godhammer Land Raider (250 points)

Many people seem to have forgotte the idea of this game... And also many people seem to be skipping my units, so don't do that again!
3 lonely Broadsides so that GLR can't shoot them all in one shoting phase.

2 chaos vindicatrors 250pts

Two winged Daemon Princes - 260pts

30 Boyz with Klaw Nob and bosspole - 225 pts (ish)

3x Crisis Suits (153)
- Twin-linked Flamers, 2x Gun Drone

(and above the planet... the imperial commander orders and exterminatus) "That ought to take care of all of them." He says.

But in all seriousness. one tripple lance ravager and one raider (160pts) Might take a few turns to kill of the drones, but at the end of the day those flamers aint gonna help.

Ragnar Blackmane with one wolf. 250pts on the dot

EX

alot of people are forgetting the unit limit, and alot of others are assuming their unit can actually beat the previous one.

SM chaptermaster with artificer armour, storm shield, and relic blade. 2+ armor, 3+ inv, and Str 6 power weapon.

Lots and Lots and Lots of Boys with C's and S's (However many I can get for the points of your unit)

Land raider redeemer, can't touch this.

Manticore.

6 Long fangs-5 Multi-Meltas In cover- 140

its interesting to see the patterns, usually it involves ork boyz killing a single character, then something with lots of flamers to kill ork boys, then usually a tank. Then a long range infantry squad.


anyways 4 Flamers of Tzeentch assuming i dont kill myself, 140 (probably 12 hits, dead on 4s)

For that i'd say an inquisiter with the sanctuary power (Within 3" of psyker, daemons can't enter, draw line of site and it's treated as impassible terrain, any daemons that appear in this radius die instantly) with retinue too shoot the daemons as he can't do anything while using this power. Now im betting that someones gonna beat that with a non daemon unit. so for whatever you come up with im gonna say Abbadon/ Kharn the betrayer

A 5 year old with grubby hands loose in the game store.

lol but i can beat that ..... One brick thrown at a high speed straight into the 5yr olds head.

hmm going to go with razorback squad w/las plas turret, combat squad, combi plas, plasma gun (incase there was a lot of terminator/artificer armor guys in squad)

Might even be able to take Kharn at long enough range, Abaddon would hurt (though i get 6 plasma shots at him, 2 when he deepstrikes and 4 when he kills my razorback, plus 1 lascannon shot)

Points values, people, we dont all have all the 'dexes.

I'll throw in a flat out valkyrie with rocket pods and a squad of meltavets. 'baddon and Kharn are both useless, and the marines wont do very well, either.

Er, pointsvalue. Go me. Way to forget stuff.

Something like 250.

Godhammer landraider, 250 exactly

not sure if that will beat it, but anyways, Bloodthirster (i'm on a daemon kick) with unholy might 270
you need 4 wounds, i'll save half and you better be moving 12 inches a turn, so 8 turns to kill me, i get a hit a turn on average, with 5s to glance on 2d6, one shaken and game over.

Grey knight grand master with Grimoir of true names(half your WS ), sacred unguents(4+ invuln), 4 grey knight terminators(TH/SS). around 270ish pts

always with the Grey Knights... lol. And i think that unit costs a bit more than 270, more like over 300 (over 160 for Termies, and i know Grand mast is over 150)

3 Heralds of Khorne, Chariots, Blessing of Blood God and Unholy Might (2+ inv against wounds caused by force weapons, +1 s,) 4 power weapon attacks, base s6, 4 W 315 pts

If you dont think that works 20 bloodletters, I hope you make all your 4+ saves, cause although i hit on 5s i wound on 4s or 3s and then its 4+ save. And there are a lot of me 320

FateWeaver or Skarbrand....

Failing that..... a squad of 12 Flamers with 1 bolt of tzeentch.

Pew! Pew Betch!

Grey Templar wrote:Grey knight grand master with Grimoir of true names(half your WS ), sacred unguents(4+ invuln), 4 grey knight terminators(TH/SS). around 270ish pts

45 Ork Boyz, didn't see points costs for the last two

Monolith-235

Manticore
This is the only thing I have seen reliably take down monoliths at extreme range for a low points cost.

around 160 I believe?

3 MM attack bikes, in seperate squads - 150pts

5 Lootas
5 Lootas
5 Lootas

150 points total

Ironclad dreadnought, extra armour 145 pts. you hit on 5s, glance on 6s

5 Fire Dragons
5 Fire Dragons
160 pts

Vindicator Linebreaker Squadron...OWNED!

I actually have no idea what that is, but if its the assassin then 10 horrors of tzeentch, 30 shots, 15 hits, 7.5 wounds, save them all. Oh and i have a 4+ inv and you only have 1 no inv save shot.

170 points

A powerful fist punch on the table,beats all!
Just kidding,I would use 3 punishers with side plasmas and hopefully it would give you some good fun,or I would just take some infantry platoons and swarm you with the power fists and the meltas

ehh, take that guard squad and send a csm nurgle squad with full flamers, all those guardsmen will make a nice bonfire

Grey knight LRC with psybolts 250ish points=owned nurglings

Grey Templar wrote:Grey knight LRC with psybolts 250ish points=owned nurglings

3 Broadsides with Targeting Arrays. Twin-Linked Railguns hitting on 3's. 240 points. Don't worry, it is an honorable death, which will be remembered by another small 'X' on the armor of the squad's leader...

GK dreadnought with blessed hull(grants the Aeigs rule 3d6 times 3 range ) extra armour, plasma cannon and power fist. 150 ish points

Try to shoot me now


Broadside; awwww

dreadnought; HA HAHAH HAHAHAHAHA HAHHAHAH

Against the dreadnought:
5 Fire Dragons
5 Fire Dragons
-160pts

3x5 Scarab Swarms=180 points.

5 Terminators with storm bolter/power fists
200pts

5 Terminators (normal) 200

5 pharias, 180

1 Vindicator, 5 Blood Claws-190 points.

Hammerhead with railgun 135 pts

1 MM Attack Bike
1 MM Attack Bike
1 MM Attack Bike
150pts

25 Boys-150 points.

guard platoon with 2 squads, pcs and 4 flamers - 150 pts

Jimole wrote:guard platoon with 2 squads, pcs and 4 flamers - 150 pts

1 CSM Dakka pred w/ havoc launcher

115 point

Jihallah wrote:

1 CSM Dakka pred w/ havoc launcher

115 point

(Long Fangs-115 points)
1 Squad Leader
4x Long Fangs with Missile Launchers

1 Vindicator-115 points.

1 MM Land Speeder
1 MM Land Speeder
120 pts

Long Fangs, 115
1 Squad Leader
4 Missle Launchers

Thunderfire cannon 100 pts

Battle wagon w/4 big shootas, and kannon

Necron Lord-Destroyer Body, Warscythe

Ork Warboss with powerklaw.

Takes any damage that the Necron Lord might do with the warscythe like a pro, and then OHKO's him with da klaw.

Or a vanilla Grey Knight Grand Master. I5 means he goes first, and so long as he can get 1 wound down, it's a OHKO.

Vindicare assassin

he's how many points? Any ways, how ever many warbuggies I can get for that.

despoiler52 wrote:he's how many points? Any ways, how ever many warbuggies I can get for that.

I am killing it do death, but...

I believe he is like 125ish

Long Fangs-115 Pts
1 squad leader
4 w/ missle launchers

3 Flamers of Tzeentch 105

I deepstrike, kill on 4s.

Daemonhunter Inquisitor, mystics, psycannon, sages, three heavy bolter servitors. You sure you want to land close enough to use those flamers..................???

How many points is that?
Hrmm... Waveserpent w/ TL scatter lasers, you cant hurt it

Err, they can glance, or penetrate if they can get behind you.

6 Long Fangs-5 ML's-140 points.

Arheiner wrote:Err, they can glance, or penetrate if they can get behind you.

6 Long Fangs-5 ML's-140 points.

Yeah, but what are the chances, those are heavy weapons, so he has to stand still...

st5 can't glance AV12

anyway...

4 Flamers, 150 pts

Vanilla Space Marine Dreadnought-105

CC goodness, plus he's a Vehicle.

Titan with bring-the-house-down meltas. 12k points, but its worth it. Stomp that vindicator.

PS: Maybe 2 destroyers.

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Arheiner wrote:Err, they can glance, or penetrate if they can get behind you.

6 Long Fangs-5 ML's-140 points.

Yeah, but what are the chances, those are heavy weapons, so he has to stand still...

st5 can't glance AV12

anyway...

4 Flamers, 150 pts

Psycannon is ST6, and can be used as an assault weapon..............

Turbo10k wrote:Titan with bring-the-house-down meltas. 12k points, but its worth it. Stomp that vindicator.

PS: Maybe 2 destroyers.

Logan Grimnar with Vortex Grenade. 275 + Something points.

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:

Logan Grimnar with Vortex Grenade. 275 + Something points.

Ghazghkull Thraka charging in on the Waaaugh! 225 points, 2+ Invulnerable save, 7 STR10 powerklaw attacks.

A continualy backing up leman russ.

3 continually moving forward MM attack bikes. 150 i think...

Ravager with 3 DL - 105pts

Instant death dark lances.. gotta love 'em.

4 Long Fangs, 3 ML's, 1 PG

105 points

30 Attack drones, 360 points.

Soul Grinder 160

You have to beat the previous =D

Soul Grinder eats little tau drones.

Craats wrote:You have to beat the previous =D

You also have to have a similar points value

May i just say there is a very evident pattern here -which is why i got bored of this thread.

Let's start with say 30 Shootas - about 200 points

Next post will be:
Big tank that they cant hurt
- monolith/LRC

Next post will be:
AT unit(s) that a single vehicle will not be able be able to handle quickly enough
- MM attack bike x4

Next post will be:
Many Infantry that the previous unit cannont handle
30 Shootas

[...repeat, repeat...]

yep thats the way it goes, circular, and depending on who is interested in the time certain units keep coming up again and again in the pattern.

But to try to break the pattern for a turn or two,

against the soul grinder

Daemon Prince, MoT (4+ inv), Bolt of Change, Unholy Might. 4 s6 attacks, i go first you hit on 5s. Also s8 ap1 that hits on 2+. 160

I would say Yriel, but I would be lying, anyways, 3 Vypers w/ 2x ShuriCannons each thats 18 shots a turn, and we move a lot faster than you -180 Points

Back to...hmmm...*scratches head and explores memory department*...3 destroyers turbocharging, then a swarm to cover them. Busta! Don't know the points, sorry.

I want to guess somewhere around 220ish, which is why I will take 3 Warwalkers w/2 scatter lasers each, 24 st6 shots, I love my eldar... 180 Pts
(Walkers, AV 10, 3 In a squadron, BS 3)

3 Destroyers is 150 points. And to be fair, they'd stand a decent chance against them

Ironclad Dreadnought in Drop Pod-I know you can't hurt it barring the back but still, it's staying off chain.

185 (I think)

Great unclean one :
5 wounds (with 4+ invl)
Str 6+2D6 AP

Not sure of the points

*trying to stay off the chain

Wolf Priest-Storm Shield (if available)-JOTWW

I hope you like my little hole. Could use chooser, but then that's just sad, not even allowing you onto the battlefield, or on forever away.

Karn - 165.

2 Warwalkers w/ 2 Bright Lances each-180
Still warwalkers, but huge difference... Now try to pull that Ironclad gak over on me...

5 x Deep Striking Combi-Melta Chaos Terminators. Just under 200ish?

Fire Dragons x 10 = 160pts

Touche.........50 Conscripts 200pts

Haha! I now have you trapped, Wraithlord-scatter laser/shuricannon-120 points
Wound that... heh conscripts

Oh I don't know......you couldnt win in 6 Turns with that!

And I say to you......Eat TH/SS termies you swine! 5 for 200 points or 3 for 120. You went far too low

Leadership+Massacre I reckon.

4 LF's-3 plasma Cannons, 1 PG. That's a lot of 3+ saves for both of us, but more you than me.

Ravager- Night Shield, 2 Disintegrators 135 pts.

With my limited skills and lack of any army book I have to say I am forced to retire. For the last one, my best guess is a couple of Khorn chaos space marines. You check the points...BYE!!

Exorcist-135 (I think)

Anything - Free

Devastator Squad with 3 Multimeltas and Drop Pod-165

Turn 1, drops behind exorcist and fires multimeltas.

I WIN!!!!!!

FAIL.
They can't fire on the first turn they arrive because Multi-meltas are heavy weapons and count as moving out of Drop Pod.
*facepalm*

Cptn. Waaagh! wrote:Devastator Squad with 3 Multimeltas and Drop Pod-165

Turn 1, drops behind exorcist and fires multimeltas.

I WIN!!!!!!

20 Ork Boys, 1 Nob with a powerklaw and bosspole - 165

Five warbuggies who play cat and mouse, but with machine guns

SmoovKriminal wrote:

Cptn. Waaagh! wrote:Devastator Squad with 3 Multimeltas and Drop Pod-165

Turn 1, drops behind exorcist and fires multimeltas.

I WIN!!!!!!

20 Ork Boys, 1 Nob with a powerklaw and bosspole - 165

Leman Russ Punisher -180(I think)

MWAHAHAHAHA!

Snikrot + 5 kommandos creeping up on your leman russ from the back table edge.

oh i know this a heavy weapons team in cover 2 auto and 1 heavy

Battle wagon with as many weapons as I can buy. Always facing you.

3 Tomb Spyders

vendetta

Dashofpepper wrote:Snikrot + 5 kommandos creeping up on your leman russ from the back table edge.

Gatling cannon has 360 arc of fire.

Turret turns around and makes kommandos go BOOM!

97252783 wrote:vendetta

Hydra

As many boyz as I can buy, led by nob with PK and bosspole.

3 heavy flamer/heavy bolter Land speeders

Yes you can hurt me

but can you catch me

3 MM Land Speeders-For Irony

Arheiner wrote:3 MM Land Speeders-For Irony

Hydra Flak Tank. I win. Again.

Seriously, that wouldn't win that matchup. MM land Speeders would smash it up.

From 48" away?

A) We'd start nearer, well at least I would
B) You've only got a 25% of penetrating with any shot
C) 3 vs 1
D) Even if it was 48, T1 turbo boost, T2 move 12 and shoot the **** out of you

adielubbe wrote:

97252783 wrote:vendetta

Hydra

Depends who gets to shoot first... oh yeah thats right i do cuz i will out flank.

For the above poster, he can afford 2 Hydras and then some for the cost of your vendetta, he was just pointing out that hydras>vendettas (in most circumstances)

Arheiner wrote:3 MM Land Speeders-For Irony

Hmm... 3 Vypers w/2 Shuricannons each (it would be tight, but the vypers would win out IMHO)

3 warwalkers with scatter lasers, hmm another close one, its 6 shots on 8 shots, I have range, no open topped, scout, you have speed.


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oh and 180 points

Ironclad dred with melta+hvy flamer=140 pts=OWNED walkers

Carnifex 185
1x scything talons
1x venom cannon
enhance senses
Toxin Sacs
Adrenal glands ws
Toxic miasma
Tusked
Reinforced Chitin
Adrenal glands I

no I doubt I would ever use this fex but it should own the dread in combat and shooting (the latter because it out ranges it)

Bringin' back the Executioner at 190pts. As long as the Executioner makes it into range the cannon should deal with it swiftly.

DavidTJ wrote:Carnifex 185
1x scything talons
1x venom cannon
enhance senses
Toxin Sacs
Adrenal glands ws
Toxic miasma
Tusked
Reinforced Chitin
Adrenal glands I

no I doubt I would ever use this fex but it should own the dread in combat and shooting (the latter because it out ranges it)

Can you even hurt my 13 armor in ranged???and i go at initive 4 with 3 str 10 attacks in CC. You are Initive 1 i belive(what do A glands do?)

He could only glance it, since Venom Cannons can only penetrate OT vehicles. Adrenal glands give you +1 inititive or WS, and he can't take both. Then again, the inititive one is wasting 15 points in that situation.

Where does it say you cant take both adrenal glands. (even though as you said adr I is wasted in this situation also its not 15 points on the fex)

At range can you harm the fex at a distance of 36" enough glancings will do damage to even the dread. (or swap out enhanced senses and venom cannon for barbed strangler that can penetrate but will have worse odds of doing anything)

3 str 10 attacks hitting on 4s wont take away 5 wounds. wheras 4 attacks hitting on 3s getting 2d6 on the damage rolls plus str 10 should take out armor 13 imo.

I do have a melta-gun and i could take 2 krak missiles which can get a shot off if a play it right

Anyway vs a Fex is say 10 STERNGUARD

Grey Templar wrote:I do have a melta-gun and i could take 2 krak missiles which can get a shot off if a play it right

Anyway vs a Fex is say 10 STERNGUARD

Necron Lord with Veil of Darkness.

Staff of light is AP3, and counts as a power weapon.

Huge mobs of orks led by PK, bosspole Nobs.

how much does that cost

probably not much.

Khorne lord, deamon weapon juggernaught 170pts
and 5 zerkers 105 pts
beat up your orks if i get charge who knows what'll happen if i don't (probably pretty close)

despoiler52 wrote:Huge mobs of orks led by PK, bosspole Nobs.

use som maginaton and ave som fink sides da boys for a change

Mozzyfuzzy wrote:probably not much.

Khorne lord, deamon weapon juggernaught 170pts
and 5 zerkers 105 pts
beat up your orks if i get charge who knows what'll happen if i don't (probably pretty close)

Yay!
10 Fire Dragons-205 points
Exarch w/ firepike, crackshot
Farseer w/ guide-75 points

Total 280!
This squad is so win!

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Mozzyfuzzy wrote:probably not much.

Khorne lord, deamon weapon juggernaught 170pts
and 5 zerkers 105 pts
beat up your orks if i get charge who knows what'll happen if i don't (probably pretty close)

Yay!
10 Fire Dragons-205 points
Exarch w/ firepike, crackshot
Farseer w/ guide-75 points

Total 280!
This squad is so win!

An Ironclad dreadnought, that's assaulting you for 180 points

If Inquitors unit shoots, your ironclad dread is beaten.

Wraithlord, wraithsword, brightlance---140pts.

Aya wrote:

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Mozzyfuzzy wrote:probably not much.

Khorne lord, deamon weapon juggernaught 170pts
and 5 zerkers 105 pts
beat up your orks if i get charge who knows what'll happen if i don't (probably pretty close)

Yay!
10 Fire Dragons-205 points
Exarch w/ firepike, crackshot
Farseer w/ guide-75 points

Total 280!
This squad is so win!

An Ironclad dreadnought, that's assaulting you for 180 points

There is no, you decide if you want to assault rule for this thread, it's just a unit that would overall beat the previous in most situations...

Eldar Own wrote:If Inquitors unit shoots, your ironclad dread is beaten.

Wraithlord, wraithsword, brightlance---140pts.

10 SM scouts with sniper rifles and a Hvy bolter.....LOL

sameish points cost. no codex with me

Your unit is 135ish, god damnit I really liked my old unit too, hmm, this one is a toughie,

10 Veterans w/chimera and 3 flamers- 150...ish

T'au hammerhead with Railgun

140ish points

Grey Templar wrote:T'au hammerhead with Railgun

140ish points

3 Multi-melta attack bikes, 150 pts

Grey Templar wrote:

despoiler52 wrote:Huge mobs of orks led by PK, bosspole Nobs.

use som maginaton and ave som fink sides da boys for a change

To you I say "Boyz have so very many applications, and the're awsome, so "

To the above post I say 6 warbikes that split up and run away all the while shooting, I plan that the 4+ invulnerable save will keep them alive long enogh for their 18 twin-linked strength five shots to do something.

I plan that the 4+ invulnerable save will keep them alive long enogh for their 18 twin-linked strength five shots to do something.

10 hits.
7 wounds.
7 Dead boyz not including cover.

That will take some serious time

2x3 Flamers of Tzeentch (drop down near two groups with probably 6 hits, means probably 3 kills (thats assuming i only hit 2 of the three with the template)

210

^if you scatter out of range they will charge in and chew you up

8 blood crushers will do the job just as well

JD21290 wrote:

I plan that the 4+ invulnerable save will keep them alive long enogh for their 18 twin-linked strength five shots to do something.

10 hits.
7 wounds.
7 Dead boyz not including cover.

That will take some serious time

I was not refering to the boyz as my target, if you look and who origonaly posted the boyz it was infact me. My target was the 3 MM speeders.

As for bloodcrushers, how many points is that?

JD21290 wrote:^if you scatter out of range they will charge in and chew you up

8 blood crushers will do the job just as well

Assuming this is near the points of the above poster, let me give a whack...

8 Fire dragons-128
Farseer w/Guide-78
Singing Spear
Total: 206

This would be tough, but as long as I get a round of shooting in I should come out clear.

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

JD21290 wrote:^if you scatter out of range they will charge in and chew you up

8 blood crushers will do the job just as well

Assuming this is near the points of the above poster, let me give a whack...

8 Fire dragons-128
Farseer w/Guide-78
Singing Spear
Total: 206

This would be tough, but as long as I get a round of shooting in I should come out clear.

2 Librarians with Smite and Vortex of Doom. ~200points

1 Epistolary with quickining and vortex 150 points

IIIIIIIRRRRRRRROOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYY

3 destroyers-150. They make people fail saves they shouldn't for some reason.

Arheiner wrote:3 destroyers-150. They make people fail saves they shouldn't for some reason.

3 Multimelta Attack Bikes- 150

No armour saves against MM and no WBB.

Damn, now we're back in the circle again. Now to think of something that isn't a load of Orks.

5 Burnas In a trukk-120 odd, not too sure.

missed a post sorry

Cptn. Waaagh! wrote:

Arheiner wrote:3 destroyers-150. They make people fail saves they shouldn't for some reason.

3 Multimelta Attack Bikes- 150

No armour saves against MM and no WBB.

Destroyers WOULD get WBB against a S8 melta...without even a res orb!

EDIT: Oh, and the destroyers would also outrange them...

verses the bikes.

five man devestator squad with 4 missiles

90 points

^ 5 man dev with 4 plas. cannons.

WHY???

I have longer range

commissar yarrick.
for the emperor!

Vyper with Shuricat

^Vyper w/ 2 ShuriCannons^