5 Fire Dragons (Including an Exarch with Tank Hunters) in a Wave Serpent with Spirit Stones - 207 points

Necron Lord, Warscythe, Destroyer Body, Phase Shifter, Phylactery, 185 points.

Its a true T6 Jetbike that will hound your Serpent with its S5 2D6 pen untill the poor thing explodes, then deal with its contents. It has a 4+ invul, and if you manage to kill it, it has a good chance of simply getting back up and continue going.

a titan... too many points

Leman Russ Punisher - 180 pts

50 man combined-arms infantry squad - 200 pts

prussia59 wrote:Leman Russ Punisher - 180 pts

50 man combined-arms infantry squad - 200 pts

Lord turbo's into range and you have 1 turn shooting before he charges:

LRP = 1.61111111 etc wounds. (If this is the 20 shot one).
Blob = 2.77777 etc wounds but if you kill it most likely stands up.
It will then easily destroy both units in close combat.

To take on either unit:
Hammerhead w: Railgun, Gun Drones(for move 12" and fire even if firing subs aswell as pinning), Multi Tracker, Flechette Dischargers, Disruption Pods
The only way you cn damage it is either punisher in the rear armour or the blob grenading it in which case prepare to lose a lot to Flechettes .

It's a long shot but how about:

Mortis Dreadnought
2x TL Autocannon
Drop pod

DarkHound wrote:Necron Lord, Warscythe, Destroyer Body, Phase Shifter, Phylactery, 185 points.

Its a true T6 Jetbike that will hound your dreddy with its S5 2D6 pen untill the poor thing explodes, if you manage to kill it, it has a good chance of simply getting back up and continue going.

this works quite nicely here, with some slight changes

whats initiatve of necron lord

but anyway Khorne lord-juggernought-deamon weapon 170pts up to 18 attacks all power weapon so no we'll be back

Mozzyfuzzy wrote:whats initiatve of necron lord

but anyway Khorne lord-juggernought-deamon weapon 170pts up to 18 attacks all power weapon so no we'll be back

Lucius The Eternal - 160 pts.

Doom Siren, Initiative, and Armor of Shrieking Souls says that I win.

Dronze wrote:

Mozzyfuzzy wrote:whats initiatve of necron lord

but anyway Khorne lord-juggernought-deamon weapon 170pts up to 18 attacks all power weapon so no we'll be back

Lucius The Eternal - 160 pts.

Doom Siren, Initiative, and Armor of Shrieking Souls says that I win.

Two-fitty.

3 Doom of Malan'tai,1trygon I win


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Tony the guardsman wrote:3 Doom of Malan'tai,1trygon I win


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Actually, Meph shanks them before they strike, so no. And psychic hood knocks out the draining ability.

29 boys and a PK nob with bosspole - 220

If their shoota boys I shoots him to death with 58 shots, if not we bleed him slowly untill the PK chomps him.

3 Piranha with Flachette dischargers 210
3 burst cannons and 6 drones each turn, the only way you can hurt this unit is assault but first you take 3x Flachette hits and then have to hit on 6s.

Warrior Squad w/DL in raider with DL and Night Shields. - 110
Sit too far away and shoot you to death.

ChrisCP wrote:Warrior Squad w/DL in raider with DL and Night Shields.
Sit too far away and shoot you to death.

Pair of Hydras, 150 points.

72" range + no SMF save for you, plus the autocannons and hull bolters munch the squad.

Snikrot and 9 Kommandos w/2 Burnas - 205 points

Snikrot "Ambushes" your Hydras and rips them to shreds, probably losing several boys in the resulting explosion......the rest will most likely die horribly to whatever is posted next

Meph.

And this thread is officially recursive.

I now use all of my power as a necron player to call upon the ultimate cheese...

monolith. 235

Devastator squad armed with two lascannons and two multi-meltas

5 sternguard with combimeltas. Roughly 150 pts.


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Deathleaper ^_^ 140pts



@: Penguin: First it's only recursive if people have no imagination Second I'm fairly sure that Meph would actually lose to two boys with PW and Snikts with Morks Teeth

Commander Chenkov, and the Next Wave. And the Next, and the Next, and the Next....

Doom in a pod 130 points.

5 Stealth Suits 150 points

9 Tankbuters, two Tank Hammers, 3 Bomb Squigs - 150

ChrisCP wrote:9 Tankbuters, two Tank Hammers, 3 Bomb Squigs - 150

10 lootas-150

Dronze wrote:

ChrisCP wrote:9 Tankbuters, two Tank Hammers, 3 Bomb Squigs - 150

10 lootas-150

11 lootas ~150

12 lootas ~~150

commander chenkov with four squads of everlasting guardsman.

Beat this: 4 grey knight and justicar: With atificer armor, holy relic, icon of the just, all with psycannon bolts.ALL DEEPSTRIKING.

roughly 300pts.

Aun'Va

Lone Ratling -10 points

alexgm101 wrote:commander chenkov with four squads of everlasting guardsman.

Beat this: 4 grey knight and justicar: With atificer armor, holy relic, icon of the just, all with psycannon bolts.ALL DEEPSTRIKING.

roughly 300pts.

6xShrykes with whip, sword and cytals=300 pts
GK deep strike cause 5 wounds on average, and then get charged recieving 20 attack that ignore armor and make them strike last. On average thats 5 no armor save wounds (not counting re-rolls since im too lazy), the GK get killed, but even in case the justicar's inv save holds he's still alone against 13 wounds of models. And what tyranid player dosent like his units fighting throu the enemy's turn

300 points vs 500 points? Try to be closer... otherwise I'll just say "hah, I take 10 honor guard with relic blades to beat that"

Um my shrykes are 300 exactly. I made a typo... Silly me

chuck norris
i win

I vortex grenade your chuck norris. He might not die but it'll slow him down.

I'm unsure of what a shryke is but I don't think it has an invulnerable save so
3 crisis suits with plasma rifle, fusion blaster, multitracker.
4 pathfinders with devilfish and disruption pod.
309 points

crisis suits deep strike with re rolls to scatter and with the markerlights have 6 str6 ap2 shots and 3 str8 ap1 shots at bs5, plus the burst cannon on the devilfish and drones.

10 Nobz.
1 Painboy
1 Big Choppa
1 Big Choppa w/ Bosspole
1 Powerklaw
1 Powerklaw w/ Bosspole
1 Waaagh! Banner
1 Nob
1 Nob w/ Bosspole
1 Nob w/ TL Shoota
1 Nob with Skorcha

Have fun with Wound Allocation, 2 Wounds each, Furious Charge, Feel no Pain, 4+ Armour, 5+ Invun, Fairly Good Shooting, I have found nothing to stand up to this thus far, except for 3 turns of 1500 Points of eldar shooting at it with bladestorm on all guardians and nobs being assaulted by 10 Howling Banshees and 6 Wraithguard (Nobs Killed them all), also killed a Wraithlord, then another turn of mass shooting at nobs from all that was left (bladestorm included), Nobz Assaulted by 2 units of Guardians, one unit dies, nobz finished. Still had 1060 points of orks to spare. nobz did their job.

440 Points

2 Mawlocs w/regen, AG TS - start on board - burrow - Boom


Not sure but I think that engagement would be about 70/30 to Nids

well assuming 2 mawlocs cost 320 points i Place 20 bloodletters!
you burrow under me, you surface, i charge you, i chop you into little pieces and we all get roasted Nid for breakfast!

4 Chaos Terminators,
2 Chainfists, 1 pair of lightning claws, 1 heavy flamer
165 points

add a dash of kharn and KILL! MAIM! BURN! KILL! MAIM! BURN! KILL! MAIM! BURN! to personal taste

Equal points of kroot

DE ravenger, night shields, 3 dissies (R36, S6, AP3, Assault 3) 140

LRBT no upgrades=150

5 deep striking IG Storm Troopers with 2 meltaguns.
Orbital Insertion. 105 points.

3 Tyranid Warriors with Deathspitters and Scything Talons

105 points.

5 Eldar Fire Dragons and an Exarch w/ Firepike - 108 points.

ravenwing attack squadron
sarge +2 bikes power weapon and 2 flamers 145pts
24 inch turboboosted scout move 12" normal move to get flamers in range 6" assault move 42" to show some love

Waaagh!_ORK wrote:10 Nobz.
1 Painboy
1 Big Choppa
1 Big Choppa w/ Bosspole
1 Powerklaw
1 Powerklaw w/ Bosspole
1 Waaagh! Banner
1 Nob
1 Nob w/ Bosspole
1 Nob w/ TL Shoota
1 Nob with Skorcha

Have fun with Wound Allocation, 2 Wounds each, Furious Charge, Feel no Pain, 4+ Armour, 5+ Invun, Fairly Good Shooting, I have found nothing to stand up to this thus far, except for 3 turns of 1500 Points of eldar shooting at it with bladestorm on all guardians and nobs being assaulted by 10 Howling Banshees and 6 Wraithguard (Nobs Killed them all), also killed a Wraithlord, then another turn of mass shooting at nobs from all that was left (bladestorm included), Nobz Assaulted by 2 units of Guardians, one unit dies, nobz finished. Still had 1060 points of orks to spare. nobz did their job.

440 Points

Okay, three manticores 480 points. Enjoy 3d3 insta-death pie plates.

Kharnflakes wrote:ravenwing attack squadron
sarge +2 bikes power weapon and 2 flamers 145pts
24 inch turboboosted scout move 12" normal move to get flamers in range 6" assault move 42" to show some love

3 Mega Armored Nobz - w/ Cybork Bodies - 135

Dedrith wrote:3 Mega Armored Nobz - w/ Cybork Bodies - 135

3xShrykes with whip, sword and cytals=150 pts.

Chuck Norris for freeeeeeee, don't even think about trying to beat him.

cormz wrote:Chuck Norris for freeeeeeee, don't even think about trying to beat him.

Anyway, restarting back on topic. Marneus Calgar W/ Terminator armor - 265

Company Command Squad with 4 plasmaguns, 2 bodyguards and Colonel Straken - 235 points.

Ludovic wrote:Company Command Squad with 4 plasmaguns, 2 bodyguards and Colonel Straken - 235 points.

10 Eldar Rangers (Pathfinders) In cover 36" away. - 240

ravenwing attack squad 3 bikes 2 flamers and power weapon attack bike with multi melta apothecary and standard bearer 235

What on earth are Manticores?

Waaagh!_ORK wrote:What on earth are Manticores?

I haven’t the slightest idea, I think they might be from Warhammer Fantasy. Then again, I don't know what a Shryke is either, maybe I'm just an idiot

A manticore is an artillery tank that shoots d3 large blasts a turn.

A shryke, in the new nid dex, is what used to be a tyranid winged warrior.

oh, alright.

Kharnflakes wrote:ravenwing attack squad 3 bikes 2 flamers and power weapon attack bike with multi melta apothecary and standard bearer 235

Ghazkull Mag Uruk Thraka - 225

Dedrith wrote:oh, alright.

Kharnflakes wrote:ravenwing attack squad 3 bikes 2 flamers and power weapon attack bike with multi melta apothecary and standard bearer 235

Ghazkull Mag Uruk Thraka - 225

funnily enough i played against ghazkull in the last tourney at my flgs he's kinda squishy

azrael -225pts

Leman russ executioner with plasma cannon sponsons=230

5 deepstriking Terminators w/ Chainfists - 225

Dedrith wrote:5 deepstriking Terminators w/ Chainfists - 225

You know the tank gets a turn of shooting before you assault it right?

HoverBoy wrote:

Dedrith wrote:5 deepstriking Terminators w/ Chainfists - 225

You know the tank gets a turn of shooting before you assault it right?

Yeah, I doubt it would be enough to kill all of them; really I would only need 1 Terminator left, providing the tank hadn't moved.

I don't know the stats of the main cannon the Exicutioner uses. The plasma cannons would hurt, but I think at least a couple would survive, due to a 5+ Inv.

Equal points of Kroot again
(20 Kroot 12 Hounds - 212 points)

Dedrith wrote:I don't know the stats of the main cannon the Exicutioner uses.

Its a plasma cannon that fires 3 shots

Edit: You know this thread is pretty good to help people learn other codexes tricks

H3ct0r wrote:Equal points of Kroot again
(20 Kroot 12 Hounds - 212 points)

10 Toxic, Scything Genestealers (190)

7 warbuggies w/big shootas (210)

Basicaly spread out and speed around while filling um full of lead.

one deathcompany dread with magna grapple

"oii truck get over here!!!!!!"

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"oii truck get over here!!!!!!"

proceeds to smash truck

andy_123_p wrote:one deathcompany dread with magna grapple

"oii truck get over here!!!!!!"

proceeds to smash truck


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"oii truck get over here!!!!!!"

proceeds to smash truck

I assume its a barebones dred with a grapple only so 140pts.

A vendetta=130

venerable dreadnought with heavy flamer and multimelta

I'd say the vendetta still has that one, he can move faster and farther than you and hit harder.

What beats it?
Squad of 2 Hydras w. heavy flamers, 150

6 Space Wolf Scouts with 2x Plasma Pistol and 1x Meltagun (if they roll the 3+ for Behind Enemy Lines of course) 130pts

Edited for completeness

16 gargoyles with glands and toxins=128

Hit on 4+ wound on 4+ with reroll have fun makin 12 saves, wihout factoring in shooting and blinding venom

GK Brother Captain with Incinerator and Holocaust. 101pts

IG Veteran Squad with 3x Melta Guns 100pts

demolisher battle tank......

beat: four grey knight terminators and a brother captain with all master crafted lightning claws and holy relic. That's 26 power attacks with re-roll to wound and to hit.

1480 points.

hold on, thats quite a bit for 5 people......

IG Veteran Squad with 3x Melta Guns 100pts

I fight with 9 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers with 2 flamers. 100 pts

hehe nice, FLAME ON!

ductvader wrote:IG Veteran Squad with 3x Melta Guns 100pts

I fight with 9 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers with 2 flamers. 100 pts

deff dread w/ 2 Skorchas - 85

Dedrith wrote:deff dread w/ 2 Skorchas - 85

2 separate scout sentinels with autocannons=80

2 seperate TL Missile Launcher, Flamer crisis suits - 92 pts

Equal points in orbital bombardments. Beat that!

First post said no orbital strikes...

I'm ignoring the orbital bombardment post so to the crisis suits I say: 3 seperate deth koptas, the turbo boost in scout movement, then if I get first turn they all move/shoot/charge one, then next turn to the same to the other. If I get second turn they count on that cover save to help them, then proside as planned.

despoiler52 wrote:I'm ignoring the orbital bombardment post so to the crisis suits I say: 3 seperate deth koptas, the turbo boost in scout movement, then if I get first turn they all move/shoot/charge one, then next turn to the same to the other. If I get second turn they count on that cover save to help them, then proside as planned.

points cost?

ductvader wrote:points cost?

Haven't you noticed people on this thread don't believe in that

1 Ork boy... 6pts

Make something that cheap that could win!

The Bringer wrote:1 Ork boy... 6pts

Make something that cheap that could win!

my finger. that will own your ork

The Bringer wrote:1 Ork boy... 6pts

Make something that cheap that could win!

1 Hormagaunt...6pts
1 Gargoyle...6 pts


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Either works

1 black templar neophyte with shotgun 10pts

A storm trooper=16pts

A vespid = same points.

EDIT - probably isn't a smart idea listing individual cost of units...

Yea we should probabbly move back to multiple models with various stuff format to avoid being too specific.


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Ill start:
Swarmlord with 2 whipguards=410

10 Crisis Battlesuits with TL Burst Cannons and Black-sun Filters (just to take the third hard point)- 400 pts.

or

6 with TL Plasma Rifles & Targeting Arrays - 390 pts.

The Bringer wrote:6 with TL Plasma Rifles & Targeting Arrays - 390 pts.

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375

Yea those GK's are gonna have a hard time catchin two squads whyle being shot at with plasmas.

DeepStrike...only one who needs to get to them is the Grand Master.

Otherwise...two psycannon purgation squads...outshoot tau.(^_^)

Chuck Norris for free, I win

mr rogers with his blood stained sweater

Vortex grenade to slow you down while someone else takes on the purgation squads

Chuck norris for free, i win.

Bruce Lee; you lose man.

Back on topic:
3 Spawn.

Sanctjud wrote:Bruce Lee; you lose man.

Back on topic:
3 Spawn.

they have no save?

Bruce Lee; you lose man.

Oh Snap!








@ the spawn
6 missile pod, burst cannon, multi tracker crisis suits 300 points

2 Vendettas with Heavy bolter sponsons at 280 points :-)

1 da devastator squad with 4 las cannons 185

1 GK Purgation squad with 3 psycannons


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200 points

6 Eldar Guardian Jetbikes
2 Shuriken Cannons
Warlock
Jetbike
Singing Spear
Enhance

220 points

I can shoot-jump-shoot from cover, enhance just because of the things I am thinking can beat this unit... most of them are melee units.

I can pop a transport (even a land raider =O) then move back 6" so unless you can fleet, and get a 4-6, you can't assault me

Alas, there is always something that can beat jetbikes ='/

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:6 Eldar Guardian Jetbikes
2 Shuriken Cannons
Warlock
Jetbike
Singing Spear
Enhance

220 points

I can shoot-jump-shoot from cover, enhance just because of the things I am thinking can beat this unit... most of them are melee units.

I can pop a transport (even a land raider =O) then move back 6" so unless you can fleet, and get a 4-6, you can't assault me

Alas, there is always something that can beat jetbikes ='/

Just for funsies;

3x Lobbas 75

x3 = 225

Have fun with 9 S5 Pinning Blasts per turn.

Yeah over 1000 and to match your lobbas
1 emperors champion:130
Perfered enamy for everyone

5 sword bretheren: 110
Power weapon

Kogwar wrote:Yeah over 1000 and to match your lobbas
1 emperors champion:130
Perfered enamy for everyone

5 sword bretheren: 110
Power weapon

your 10 pts off on your champ

deathwing terminator squad assault cannon chainfist 3x lightning claws 250pts

Those lobbas wouldn't stand a chance. =O

Alright, I was going to bring warwalkers with star cannons up, though if you deep struck, you won, unless I outflanked, though that would have just gotten complicated.

I give you... the one... the only... Fire dragons!

10 Firedragons

Wave serpent
Spirit stones

Ta da! This unit would destroy terminators of tactical marines

I see someone putting infantry spam next, +10 if you don't.

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:Those lobbas wouldn't stand a chance. =O

Alright, I was going to bring warwalkers with star cannons up, though if you deep struck, you won, unless I outflanked, though that would have just gotten complicated.

I give you... the one... the only... Fire dragons!

10 Firedragons

Wave serpent
Spirit stones

Ta da! This unit would destroy terminators of tactical marines

I see someone putting infantry spam next, +10 if you don't.

actually beat fire dragons with termies theyre nice and squishy

but i see your firedragons and raise you azrael and command squad with apothecary 2x power weapons 2x meltaguns and razorback w/ tl lascannon

nothing says loving like a a squad full of 4++ saves

Touche, though the fire dragons would eat the termies. This new unit is good, too good for me to find a counter to before I go to bed in fact, good night.

Bringing in dedicated transports? 8 Pathfinders, 4 rail rifles, team leader with 2 drones, warfish.

A razorback cannot survive two seekers and 4 rail rifles that hit on a 2+. Once exposed the drones make sure the rifles hit on a 3+ at worst, while the other markerlights reduce leadership. It might take eight turns or more, but those marines are going to be eating dirt and getting picked off.

Siege_TF wrote: It might take eight turns or more, but those marines are going to be eating dirt and getting picked off.

rofl

3 ravenwing bikes sarge w/power weapon melta bombs 2xflamers attack bike with multimelta
all for the low low price of 200pts.

Collosus and marbo 205pts

If marbo manages not to blow himself up, and the collosus manages to hit at least some of them with its AP3 no cover gun that wounds on 2+, things might just work out.

NVM

9 Vindicators, enjoy the 2 feet of death!

Tazz Azrael wrote:9 Vindicators, enjoy the 2 feet of death!

That's quite a point hike, though I'll match it.

5x Deepstriking Assault Terminator Squad with TH/SS - 1000

9 vindicators.....or 5 deep striking assault terminators...

Only thing to beat that...

10 Predators with Heavy Bolter side sponsons, Hunter Killer missile, and Dozer blade

1000 points of bye bye terminators. I don't care if you do have invulnerable save, 25 terminators against twin-linked autocannon and HK missile fire.......it's gonna be close.

13 landspeeders w/ multi meltas and heavy flamers 975

Night bringer, deceiver, and 9 pariahs to mach your 975 points of landspeeders

ewww, thats a tough one if they catch em im screwed if they dont its 13 multi-meltas to the face i think im gonna call that one a draw

As for the necrons, I win

This is an army:

Fire prism
Holo-fields, Spirit stones

Fire prism
Holo-fields, Spirit stones

Fire prism
Holo-fields, Spirit stones

Fire prism
Holo-fields, Spirit stones

Fire prism
Holo-fields, Spirit stones

Fire prism
Holo-fields, Spirit stones

Total 960

I just out range your slowness! We should really lower these points...

7 Vendettas=910
FREEEEEEM

12 Hydras Flak tanks +1 Hunter Killer Missile = 910

Dakka dakka dakka!

You will find S7 is much weaker against AV12 than S9

Land Raider Squadron!

x 3 Land Raiders

1x Godhammer Landraider (all twin-linked lascannon)
2 x Land Raider Redeemers

730 points!

HoverBoy wrote:You will find S7 is much weaker against AV12 than S9

48 TL S7 shots vs 21 TL S9

Hydras: 36 hits, 6 glances and 6 penetrates against AV12

Vendettas: 15.25 hits, ~2.54 glances and 7.125 penetrates against AV12

So it's close, you might be right though. I'd point out that having more and cheaper hulls would be an advantage in a battle of attrition though, as would longer range and greater ability to get cover saves.

4 chaos predators= 660pts. (chaos does have slightly cheaper predators)

That start 48" away

4 dropodding furioso dreadnaugts 550pts
and lets take magna grapples for fun like 610 points

This one's a tad pricey, but its something I've actually used and had alot of fun with.

Shrike
Chaplain with Jump pack
10 Vanguard Vets with Jump packs
Sarge gets a free lightning claw
5 more lightning claws
4 thunder hammers
10 storm shields

Totals up to 920 points. With infiltrate and Fleet from shrike its a turn one charge almost every game re-rolling everything on the first turn and almost all wounds on the rest of them. Most of the squad with a 3+ invul save makes them hard to get rid of, but if they are'nt supported well they die to shooting due to volume of fire cause people really don't like these guys.

Evetib wrote:This one's a tad pricey, but its something I've actually used and had alot of fun with.

Shrike
Chaplain with Jump pack
10 Vanguard Vets with Jump packs
Sarge gets a free lightning claw
5 more lightning claws
4 thunder hammers
10 storm shields

Totals up to 920 points. With infiltrate and Fleet from shrike its a turn one charge almost every game re-rolling everything on the first turn and almost all wounds on the rest of them. Most of the squad with a 3+ invul save makes them hard to get rid of, but if they are'nt supported well they die to shooting due to volume of fire cause people really don't like these guys.

Two platoons of guarsmen=910 points
2 x PCS + 4 Meltas
7 x I.Squad+Sniper+Commissar+P.Weapon+H.Bolter

Edit: You assault and wipe one squad and then get shot to hell by the rest.

3 Chaos dakka predators (autocannon, heavy bolters, havoc launcher)

345pts

same amount of chaos anti tank pred
about 500ish?

Mozzyfuzzy wrote:same amount of chaos anti tank pred
about 500ish?

6 stormtrooper squads with meltaguns and airborne assault=570

30 death company with jump packs infernus pistols 15 power weapons and 15 power fists with lemartes.

This thread has gone on long enough, and really was a bit silly to start with. It's less about tactics than it is about designing a unit in a vacuum.

Locking thread.