Terminator Librarian with machine curse and gate of infinity 190 points

Vindicare Assasin

Wave serpent-195
5 Dire Avengers
Spirit Stones
Twin-Linked Star Cannons

3 deffkoptas w/twin linked rokit launchas-135
2 deffkoptas w/twin linked big shootas-70
total=205 (a little over, but hey it's theory)

Anywho they outflank and blow the out of the side/rear armour, then stay just out of the dire avengers range.

God Tyrant-2+ Save thing, 2 Scything talons, Str 6 thing, Warp Blast. Rough guess for points is 180 odd.

Oh you're going to regret not putting wings on that thing...

15x Dark Eldar
- 2x Dark Lance, 2x Blaster
- Sybarite: Agonizer

176 points

Errrrrrrr, A God Tyrant is one with wings. At least I think it is, it's what I meant. I probably missed it from points though, which makes it 210 odd, though I should check my codex.

EDIT: I got it out and added it up, comes to 178 points.

a Fat man tripping and landing on the table.
1 pointz!


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Alternativly
Skarbrand 300 points.
am i allowed him?...
if not.
Daemon Prince (80) with: 260
Wings( counts as jump infantry) 60
Mark of Nurgle(+1 T) 30
Noxious Touch( wounds on a 2+ in CC) 10
Unholy might (+1 S) 20
Iron hide(3+ sv) 30
Breath of chaos (template wep that kills on a 4+, only invun saves allowed) 30

A treadmill, no points, but lots of money

Against a Demon Prince...

Dark Eldar Archon (130)
- Agonizer, Combat Drugs, Shadowfield

A 2 person squad of Penitent Engines

160pts

3 Necron Destroyers-150 points.

t'au hammerhead with railgun 140 points

1 MM/ML Dreadnought in Drop Pod-140 points.

Soul Grinder With Tounge!
155 points

5 lance strikes strength 10 ap1 - 300 pts

(p.s. you gotta love witch hunters)

What part of no orbital bombardment do people not get.

so what does my next model choice got to beat?

if 5 lance strieks is a weapon held by some random Witch hunter unit.

2 Vindicators
250 points beetch!

Heh, too easy...
10 Dark Eldar Warriors-100
2 Darklances
10 Dark Eldar Warriors-100
2 Darklances

24" range is weak...

Avatar of Khaine.

155 points

Lysander the bystander 200 points

Or heavy Bolter Longfang pack, 10 S5 Hits a turn should take it down before it reaches them.

@Inquisitor_Syphonious
1 defiler.

72" is better ;-)

72" s8 ap3

Bloodhorror wrote:@Inquisitor_Syphonious
1 defiler.

72" is better ;-)

72" s8 ap3

5 Guardian Jetbikes- 153 points
Warlock, Singing spear, Conceal

Win.

Lord of Change for irony

10 Firedragons-187
Exarch, Crackshot
Farseer-78
Guide, Singing spear

Total:265 points

30 boyz
nob
bosspole
big choppa

200

2 basilisks. BAM!

4 Warlocks-201
4x Singing spears, Embolden, Jetbikes

Turbo-boost/that's one *round* of shooting I have to go through, then the fun begins

First off, if I go first you must wether 4 strength 9 large blast templates, can they do that?
And assuming that they can my reputal would have to be as many deff koptas as I can get, let's play some high speed tag, but with rockits flying evry which way (that's how good ork shooting is)

Uhh, 2 templates, I turbo-boost into min. range... fail... As for the deffkoptas, you can probably get 3/4, and since I go faster than them, I win... 3+ to hit 2+ to wound 3+/4++/ might be close but, I think the seer-less council wins.../ not to mention that you will probably scatter with those templates...

How much faster does and elsar jet bike go then a regualr jetbike?

6" in the assault

Treason, and heresy, basicaly I hate eldar mobility.

Assuming the last unit was defcoptas


2 10 man squads of Grey Knights with Incinerators, Str5 AP4, flamers, ignor invl 350ish points

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:6" in the assault

If they didn't turbo boost. So equal speed if both jetbikes turbo boost, but standard 12" vs 18" Eldar otherwise.


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Grey Templar wrote:2 10 man squads of Grey Knights with Incinerators, Str5 AP4, flamers, ignor invl 350ish points

2x 3 D-Cannons = 2x 3 blast barrage wound on 2+ AP2. 300 pts

BlueDagger wrote:

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:6" in the assault

If they didn't turbo boost. So equal speed if both jetbikes turbo boost, but standard 12" vs 18" Eldar otherwise.


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Grey Templar wrote:2 10 man squads of Grey Knights with Incinerators, Str5 AP4, flamers, ignor invl 350ish points

2x 3 D-Cannons = 2x 3 blast barrage wound on 2+ AP2. 300 pts

That's actually a toughy to counter...

10 Space Marines-205
Heavy Bolter, Flamer, Sergeant w/ Powerfist, Combi-Flamer
Drop Pod-70
Deathwind Missle Launcher

Total:275
Should be able to put enough hurt out to win... Two flamers and a str 5 large blast...

Land Raider + 9 CSM + 2 meltas + Icon of Chaos Glory

385 points. Hopefully get a few lucky lascannon shots, and heavy bolter hits. I see this wrecking a lot of what I see. Maybe I'm just bias.

One XV88 broadside suit.

Land Raider + 9 CSM + 2 meltas + Icon of Chaos Glory

385 points. Hopefully get a few lucky lascannon shots, and heavy bolter hits. I see this wrecking a lot of what I see. Maybe I'm just bias.

Your a little over...(110/85 to whomever you were replying) but oh well...

5 Dire Avengers- 60
Wave Serpent- 135
TL-Brightlance

5 Dire Avengers- 60
Wave Serpent- 135
TL-Brightlance

Total: 390 points

Damnit! You ninja'd me there

make sure to keep it in the same point cost 385 is way up ther compaired to most.

Wave Serpent w/ TL Bright Lance and 10 Fire Dragons inside. 295 pts

lascannon and meltas are s8 vs FSA 12 and a +4 cover. BL take the 14 FSA to 12 and the dragons could slaughter the landraider or CSM

How about a whole mess load of fiends of slaneesh? like....

10 Fiends of Slaneesh (5 atks, 5 ini, rending, hit and run, two wounds each)

Herald of Slaneesh w Pavane of Slaneesh

total: 370 points.


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Yeah I foresee those fire dragons being an issue with the energy field of the wave serpent. I guess in that situation whoever destroys the others tank first would win huh?

Chaos Land Raider-250
Daemonic Possession
5 Chaos Space Marines-75
Total: 325 points

For the irony...

I still like the idea of 10 fiends of slaneesh I just got the Chaos Codex and it's awesome considering the mentality behind it all. Straight 10 of em, 300 points (if that's the aim)

Brother Captain Stern 185 points

@next poster. you can upgrade a greater deamon to a lord of change for free if you want

3 Warwalkers- 180 pts
2x Scatter Lasers

I would of done daemons... But I don't have the codex/ 24 Str6 shots! Huzzah

battle wagon with; kannon, 4 rockits, armour plates
150 points
You can't even scratch it's front armour, you could do some dmg to the side, but unlikely you will ever get there.

Grey Templar wrote:Brother Captain Stern 185 points

@next poster. you can upgrade a greater deamon to a lord of change for free if you want

Bloodlthirster, Unholy Might, blessing of blood god 275 but he would win (2+ inv save from force weapons)

or Khorne Herald on Chariot, Unholy Might, Blessing of Blood God has a chance. 105

Skulltaker Chariot 175

Yeah 2+ invulnerables

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:3 Warwalkers- 180 pts
2x Scatter Lasers

I would of done daemons... But I don't have the codex/ 24 Str6 shots! Huzzah

Hmm this just kills daemons, 5 bloodcrushers @200 might work (depends on my scatter and run roles and if they are in one squad or 3)

Otherwise we can make it stupid simple, 1 Soulgrinder, Phlem and Tongue 185. Mainly just get within charge range and kill all 3.

5 man vangaurd vetrans power weppons and b.c with capatin shrike 500 pionts

despoiler52 wrote:battle wagon with; kannon, 4 rockits, armour plates
150 points
You can't even scratch it's front armour, you could do some dmg to the side, but unlikely you will ever get there.

Are you forgetting warwalkers can OUTFLANK!?!?!?!?!? Cough Cough, what's the side/rear armor, I think I can do some damage... Though you win this one... This one...

rck1995 wrote:5 man vangaurd vetrans power weppons and b.c with capatin shrike 500 pionts

What the GAK!?!?!?! 500 points... grumble grumble, that doesn't even deserve a response...


@Tiekwando hmm, Total:190 points
5 Fire Dragons-80
Wave serpent-110
TL-ShuriCannons,SS

3x Hydra Flak Tanks (not squadroned) 2x TL s7 ap4 Ass 2 each, Full out saves can't be taken.

Serpent would be shot out of the air before they could even get close, and the dragons face the same afterward 225 pts

Blood Angels VAS, 2 meltaguns, 2 TH
230pts

You have to pretend you don't care about your three melted tanks...

Inquisitor with 2 Mystics 36 pts
1 Medusa with heavy flamer (s5 ap4) and Siege Cannon (s10 ap2 LB) 135 pts
171 total

BA DS in and trigger Inquisitor, Inquisitor has the Medusa open up on the BAs before they have a chance.

10 Blood Angels Death Company 0pts
(Just Joking)

Fire Prism with Holo-fields 60" death ftw

deep striking Zagstruk and a bunch O' storm boyz, there are better options but he has yet to be played.

Ghazghull Thraka = 225 points.

He has 'eavy armour (2+ armour save), cybork body (5+ invulnerable save), big shoota, power klaw, and other things.

BEAT THAT! 4 Wounds!

Doomseer w/ 7 Howling banshees and Exarch with Executioner 230 pts

He'd be downed by I10 attacks before he even thought of attacking

Keeper of Secrets w/ Soporific musk and Unholy might 235 points.

Whats he? MC, 6 atks at 7 str. Ohh did I mention he's hit and run with initiative 10 always? He has defensive and assault grenades also if that negates someone trying to attack before him.

BlueDagger wrote:Doomseer w/ 7 Howling banshees and Exarch with Executioner 230 pts

He'd be downed by I10 attacks before he even thought of attacking

Railhead, Flech, Dpod, burst cannons, multi track - 185. Catch 18'' of submunition lol + some defense if you do (of course always ensuring to get the 6+'' ,movement)

If no one could tell by now... I really really REALLY like fire dragons
Total:190 points
5 Fire Dragons-80
Wave Serpent-110
TL-ShuriCannons, SS

If you can pop me first turn, you win, otherwise, thats 185 points you've wasted on slag.

lol very true, but fa 13 + disruption pod?

Monolith, 235 points.

TopC wrote:lol very true, but fa 13 + disruption pod?

You won't get the benefit for disruption and I will most likely be able to get the side/rear...........

40kenthusiast wrote:Monolith, 235 points.

5 Warlocks- 250 points
5 Jetbikes, 5 Singing Spears

Yay, this will reck armor and move really fast, in total, assuming you kill two of 'em 3 str 9 shots at BS 4/6 str 9 auto-hits on the charge!!!

7 pariahs- 252 pts

Addicted to Bleach wrote:7 pariahs- 252 pts

You seriously think they can catch the bikes


at Pariahs.

6 LC assault termies. 240 points.

No i won't get any saves from the sythes, but only if you survive to swing

Even though I know it's a dick stratigy, 5 killa kanz with KMB, I just back up at throw energy blast at you, that is the problem with a unit with no guns.

Dude, start posting points costs... Assuming it's around 250-ish
6 Warwalkers w/ 2 ShuriCannons ea. Total: 240 pts

Three units of two each outflanking!!!

2x XV8 with Missle pod, Plasma rifle and Multi-tracker 248pt.

Joostuh wrote:2x XV8 with Missle pod, Plasma rifle and Multi-tracker 248pt.

That would be pretty close... Oh well...

5 Warlocks- 250 points
5 Singing Spears, 5 Jetbikes

Man, that got boring sooooooooooooooo long ago. Find something else to submit.

Bloodthirster-230 odd?

Alright, I do feel like a dick for it... How about

5 Grey Knights (Heavy Support Option ones)
3x Psycannons, 1 Justicar

Total: 255 points

1 Leman Russ Executioner with PC side-sponsons and a Hull-Mounted LC-225 points

Necron lord with war scythe, phase shift, destroyer body, and phylactery ...185

Ironically, that's exactly what I used to take one down the last time I faced one.

Wolf Priest-Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane.
1 TWC with Frost Blade

180 points IIRC

30 Ork boyz

5 Meganobs-200

Scorpion Squad
5 units; exarch; shadowstrike; stalker; scorpions claw
Scorpion Squad
5 units; exarch; shadowstrike; stalker; scorpions claw

260 points


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Avalon wrote:Scorpion Squad
5 units; exarch; shadowstrike; stalker; scorpions claw
Scorpion Squad
5 units; exarch; shadowstrike; stalker; scorpions claw

260 points

How bout we move the points back up

Add Kandaras to that list

Making it 475

If not then ignore this little addition.

Tau Hammerhead
Railgun, multitracker, disruption pod, BC

Times three

495

10 attack bikes with MM - 500 points

Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)
Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)

504 points

Avalon wrote:
Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)
Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)

504 points

Farseer-115
Fortune, Jetbike, Singing Spear
7 Warlocks-385
Jetbikes, 5 Destructors, Enhance, Embolden, 2 Singing Spears

Total:509

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Avalon wrote:
Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)
Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)

504 points

Farseer-115
Fortune, Jetbike, Singing Spear
7 Warlocks-385
Jetbikes, 5 Destructors, Enhance, Embolden, 2 Singing Spears

Total:509

30 shootas boyz, x3. 540.

Burna boyz in battle wagons, hahaha! do the burny dance.

BeRzErKeR wrote:

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Avalon wrote:
Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)
Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)

504 points

Farseer-115
Fortune, Jetbike, Singing Spear
7 Warlocks-385
Jetbikes, 5 Destructors, Enhance, Embolden, 2 Singing Spears

Total:509

30 shootas boyz, x3. 540.

The sad part is... that barely beat me... Unless the range is 12ish, damnit...

@despoiler
start posting some points. Otherwise, I will counter you with 12 bloodthirsters... Yes... I see it now...

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

BeRzErKeR wrote:

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Avalon wrote:
Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)
Shinning Spear Squad (5 units; exarch; shuriken cannon; star lance; skilled rider; withdraw)

504 points

Farseer-115
Fortune, Jetbike, Singing Spear
7 Warlocks-385
Jetbikes, 5 Destructors, Enhance, Embolden, 2 Singing Spears

Total:509

30 shootas boyz, x3. 540.

The sad part is... that barely beat me... Unless the range is 12ish, damnit...

@despoiler
start posting some points. Otherwise, I will counter you with 12 bloodthirsters... Yes... I see it now...

Uh, 180 S4 shots at 18". 60 hits on average, 20 wounds (assuming you are T5), and you only have a total of 8 models with, not sure, 17 wounds between them? two or three rounds of shooting and you're gone.

My bad, thought it was rapid-fire, hence methinksings 90 shots, 5+ to hit/4+ to wound (T4) then my 3+ re-rollable, don't know much about ork shooting, mostly about stats and what not.

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:My bad, thought it was rapid-fire, hence methinksings 90 shots, 5+ to hit/4+ to wound (T4) then my 3+ re-rollable, don't know much about ork shooting, mostly about stats and what not.

Nope, assault 2 18". So at 18" that's 180 shots, 60 hits, 30 wounds, then a 3+ rerollable means 3.33 wounds, on average. You start taking morale checks after the first round of shooting, and I win pretty fast.

@despoiler52; MANZ, however many equal the points you spent. I charge, pop the wagon, and then open up a can of whoop-@ss on your burna boyz, because when it comes down to it, if MANZ get no save and burnas get a 6+, the MANZ win. Because they have power klaws.

BeRzErKeR wrote:

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:My bad, thought it was rapid-fire, hence methinksings 90 shots, 5+ to hit/4+ to wound (T4) then my 3+ re-rollable, don't know much about ork shooting, mostly about stats and what not.

Nope, assault 2 18". So at 18" that's 180 shots, 60 hits, 30 wounds, then a 3+ rerollable means 3.33 wounds, on average. You start taking morale checks after the first round of shooting, and I win pretty fast.

@despoiler52; MANZ, however many equal the points you spent. I charge, pop the wagon, and then open up a can of whoop-@ss on your burna boyz, because when it comes down to it, if MANZ get no save and burnas get a 6+, the MANZ win. Because they have power klaws.

MANZ?...?...?...? Elaborate, otherwise I just equal your points with warwalkers w/ SL's LOLOLOLOL... < That's me being angry

Those are impressive guns, and I re-roll failed ld tests...

30 shootas boyz, x3. 540.

Warwalker squadron (3 units; SL; spirit stones)

Wraithguard (10 units)
Warlock (spiritseer; conceal; singing spear)

Points 589

Nightbringer (360 points)
1 Necron Lord-Warscythe, Destroyer Body, Psychaltry, Phase Shifter, Gaze of Flame (210 points)

570 points.

Nightbringer.... Lulz

Skultaker on Chariot. 160 points.
can kick your Models arse easy peasyish.

Archite (147)
Combat drugs, punisher, tormentor helm, grenades, shadowfield

jsullivanlaw wrote:Archite (147)
Combat drugs, punisher, tormentor helm, grenades, shadowfield

You mean Archon.

Callidus Assassain-120 points

The Masque

Carnifex (crushing claws; venom cannon; toxin sacs; tail weapon-scythe; Adrenal Glands)

161 pts

Skarbrand....
300 points :-P

I'll see your 300 and raise you 75.

Wraithguard x 10 w/ Warlock.

Mr. Mayhem wrote:I'll see your 300 and raise you 75.

Wraithguard x 10 w/ Warlock.

3 Vindicators

Sadly, most of these new posts break the rules set by the OP.

But.. 2 Valkyries (Vendetta varients)

A new codex, where Valky's are pushed into Apoc now

Razerous wrote:

But.. 2 Valkyries (Vendetta varients)

How many points? What ever, I get as many deth koptas w/twin liked rockit for the same point cost.

despoiler52 wrote:

Razerous wrote:

But.. 2 Valkyries (Vendetta varients)

How many points? What ever, I get as many deth koptas w/twin liked rockit for the same point cost.

Since there ive no idea what the points are:

2 Fire prisms (holofields)

Farseer (jetbike; guide; doom)
Warlock (jetbike; destructor; singing spear) x5



700 pts (I think)

Avalon wrote:

despoiler52 wrote:

Razerous wrote:

But.. 2 Valkyries (Vendetta varients)

How many points? What ever, I get as many deth koptas w/twin liked rockit for the same point cost.

Since there ive no idea what the points are:

2 Fire prisms (holofields)

Farseer (jetbike; guide; doom)
Warlock (jetbike; destructor; singing spear) x5



700 pts (I think)

Ill take your 700 and remove 40, 3 demolishers with sponson plasma cannons and a hull mounted lascannon each.

1 ten man squad of assault terminators and 1, 5 man all armed with thunder hammer's 600 points i think

Dark Reapers (9 units; exarch; tempest launcher; fast shot; crack shot)

Warp Spiders (5 units; exarch; power blades; surprise assault; withdraw)
Warp Spiders (5 units; exarch; power blades; surprise assault; withdraw)

Bout 720 pts

lots and lots of zerkers for how ever many points you have no matter how many you shoot some will get thru to wreak close combat terror

@mozzy.
I'll take an equal amount of My Bloodletters worth ;-)

One Ironclad dreadnought, heavy flamer and melta, drop pod. 180

(dont need most of it but hey makes it slightly harder to beat with other units, could do with dreadnaught and nothing else)

30 boyz, nob, PK, bosspole=135
killa kan, grotzooka=45

180

2 DakkaPreds - 170

2 assault terminators 5 man squads

two 5 man Bloodcrusher squads

Bloodhorror wrote:two 5 man Bloodcrusher squads

points??

Fire Prisms (2 units; holofields) 300
Dire Avengers (10 units; exarch; shimmer shield; defend; blade storm) 177


477 pts give or take

His is 350 IIRC so you'll need to redo yours, it's way too high.

Abaddon the despoiler, and an obliterator. Abaddon can chew threw one squad of bloodcrushers pretty nicely, and it'll be made easier by an obliterator starting a long way away and using his plasma cannon.

The PC would take 2 shots at best to kill 1 Bloodcrusher, so I wouldn't see that working too well. Still-

2 Squads of 10 Bloodletters-300 points (I think)

Bloodhorror wrote:two 5 man Bloodcrusher squads

Arheiner wrote:His is 350 IIRC so you'll need to redo yours, it's way too high.

220 points over is too high is it? thought id raise it a little bit since im not goin to look up the points for the the bloodcrushers, so i guessed bout 400 or so.

It is 400 precisely, I checked earlier, but if you think about it, that's the equivilant of 66 ork boys vs 95 ork boys, it's not very fair is it.

Arheiner wrote:It is 400 precisely, I checked earlier, but if you think about it, that's the equivilant of 66 ork boys vs 95 ork boys, it's not very fair is it.

I shudder to think so. Anyway shall we move on? Or you dont think that eldar unit would be hard to beat.

Avalon wrote:

points??

Fire Prisms (2 units; holofields) 300
Dire Avengers (10 units; exarch; shimmer shield; defend; blade storm) 177


477 pts give or take

ATM, we're on 20 bloodletters at 340 points, which was by me if you've been paying attention.

Arheiner wrote:ATM, we're on 20 bloodletters at 340 points, which was by me if you've been paying attention.

the nitpicking was distracting
otherwise...

3 Warwalkers (scatter lasers; spirit stones)
7 Warpspiders (Exarch; dethspinner; powerblades; withdraw)

346 points, hopfully i havent gone too far over

10 man unit of Nob Bikers, 3 with power klaws, 6 with big choppas, painboy, cybork bodies, grot orderly, Waaagh! Banner, and a warboss on bike with power klaw, cybork body, bosspole, and attack squig.



810 pts


(by the way, i know im way over, i just want to make a point)

I guess I'll answer to the 810 points.
30 orks, sluggas choppas, nob, PK, bosspole
30 orks, sluggas choppas, nob, PK, bosspole
30 orks, sluggas choppas, nob, PK, bosspole
20 orks, sluggas choppas, nob, PK, bosspole

total=820

As for the 346 points I'd say
battlewagon, deffrolla, kannon, 4 rockit launchas, extra armour
battlewagon, deffrolla, kannon, 4 rockit launchas, extra armour

Total=340

Which are we doing then?

For the BW-4 Broadsides-320 points

For The Horde-3 Wraithlords-Wraithswords and Bright Lances-About 420 I'd say

Farseer and 6 warlocks-Embolden, Fortune

Should be about 800, not sure.

I'm confused, mabye I don't know who they work exactly, but why take bright lances vs the hoard? And what would your tactic be?

Fine, make it scatterlasers. The tactic is that only the PK nobs can hurt the wraithlords and just do as much damage as possible.

Arheiner wrote:Which are we doing then?

For the BW-4 Broadsides-320 points

For The Horde-3 Wraithlords-Wraithswords and Bright Lances-About 420 I'd say

Farseer and 6 warlocks-Embolden, Fortune

Should be about 800, not sure.

despoiler52 wrote:I'm confused, mabye I don't know who they work exactly, but why take bright lances vs the hoard? And what would your tactic be?

This is interesting, two units to beat now, though i am curious bout the wraithlords tactics.

Anyway

(4 Broadsides) 2 scorpion squads (exarch; powerclaw; stalking; shadowstrike)
264 pts
(3 wraithlorad and farseer with bodyguard) 3 lictors, 4 carnifex (adrenal glands; toxing sacs; tail scythe; crushing claws; rending claws)
640 pts

3 ravagers all with Dissies and night shields 420

that nine Str 7 ap2 small blast a turn at 36 in
or 24 str 4 ap3 shots a turn

Four Vindicare assassins to the 420pts

Otherwise lots of those small annoying nids that i don't know about for the 800ish points

A squad of red scorpian terminators and chainfists, HELLO FEEL NO PAIN NO MATTER WHAT

colonnello wrote:A squad of red scorpian terminators and chainfists, HELLO FEEL NO PAIN NO MATTER WHAT

Carnifex (2 units: adrenal glands; enhanced senses; extended carpace; tail weapon scythe; toxin sacs; crushing claws; scything talons) 342
Lictor (1 unit)

422 pts

Though i must admit ive not heard of the Red Scorpions before. Do tell.

XV-8 Squad with shield generators, plasma rifles and fusion blasters (and what ever the equipment is that lets you fire more than one weapon) and multi-trackers. Deep strike, fire, BLAH dead Carnis and Lictor.

about 300-350 points

Avrik_Shasla wrote:XV-8 Squad with shield generators, plasma rifles and fusion blasters (and what ever the equipment is that lets you fire more than one weapon) and multi-trackers. Deep strike, fire, BLAH dead Carnis and Lictor.

about 300-350 points

Sly marbo with all his equipment/sepcial rules, etc. 65 points.

Dual HF Land Speeder-70 odd points.

Cambak wrote:

Avrik_Shasla wrote:XV-8 Squad with shield generators, plasma rifles and fusion blasters (and what ever the equipment is that lets you fire more than one weapon) and multi-trackers. Deep strike, fire, BLAH dead Carnis and Lictor.

about 300-350 points

Sly marbo with all his equipment/sepcial rules, etc. 65 points.

First of all, I think they would kick your ass, they deepstrike and melta you to death, if you somehow survive that, they jump shoot jump you to death...

As for the above poster, 12 BS3 Str6 shots a turn

Warwalker-40
2 ShuriCannons

Warwalker-40
2 ShuriCannons

5 Lootas, deploy at extreme range, in cover, then start shooting wildly.

You know I can outflank right? that is a 30" threat range from either table edge. If for some reason I did deploy on the board, scout moves...

shrike, vanguad veterans, jump packs, storm shields, power fists- 570 points

How many vets, ...5...6...7...8...9...10? And by god I hope that is supposed to counter the V8's...

shrike wrote:shrike, vanguad veterans, jump packs, storm shields, power fists- 570 points

15x Lootas

15x Lootas

8x Lootas

570 pts exactly, giving 38-114 (!!) S7 shots per turn. I deploy on the other side of the board and blow living hell out of you for two turns. Average of 76 shots per turn, that's 152 over 2 turns; 50 hits, 42 wounds, 14 unsaved. Boom.

Land Raider Redeemer-230 points
Land Raider-235 points

Total: 465 points

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:Land Raider Redeemer-230 points
Land Raider-235 points

Total: 465 points

Yes, well, AV 14 IS the obvious choice again Lootas.

6x Nob Bikers, all with PKs, WAC abused with cybork/bosspoles/kombi-weapons. 440 points.

Hmmmmmmmm. It's hard for me to bring myself to post against other orks, but Id have to say......
4 basilisks and guardsman marbo, no upgrades on the basilisks, just instant death goodness.

OK We are now having a restart the first unit is Sly marbo: 65

If we must, but I'm not happy about this. , anyways, two warbugies, one with armour plates. 65 points. And yes, they split up.

Why are people still posting in this topic?

Icehawk18 wrote:Why are people still posting in this topic?

beacuse it is interesting, the real question is, why are YOU posting in this topic.

I am agitated that people aren't posting their points, mainly you despoiler , as for your warbuggies, hmm... that is actually a toughie, the problem with these low point, alright.

3 Jetbikes-76
1 Shuriken Cannon

jump, shoot, jump around any LoS blocking cover.

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:I am agitated that people aren't posting their points, mainly you despoiler , as for your warbuggies, hmm... that is actually a toughie, the problem with these low point, alright.

3 Jetbikes-76
1 Shuriken Cannon

jump, shoot, jump around any LoS blocking cover.

I want to see how long I can go without using a non-Ork unit.

2x Killa Kans, KMBs; 110 pts. A little high, I know.

Sorry, sorry. In my defence I totaly did last time. Wait, how strong is a jet bike gun? Anyways, my response is dethkoptas, two of em. 70 points.



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crap too slow. HAHAHA, as for the kans, hmmmmmmmmmmm, lootas, seven of them. 105 points

DEFILER,150

5 warp spiders, Exarch with twin spinners (127 points)

ability to zip around behind you or even deep strike with eight BS 4 - S 6 shots and four BS 5 - S 6 shots.

Hmm warp spyders eh. I'll play down a vanella Russ, held in reserves till you deepstrike.

Alright, new rule, if you don't post the points, you lose your turn .

As for the spiders, im going to not use any eldar units for as long as possible,

Dark Eldar Archon- 135 points
Shadow Field, 2++ save
Combat Drugs, 12" charge range/+1 Attack/Re-roll misses/etc.
Tormenter Helm, +1 Attack
Punisher, +1 Str.

That is alot of hurt, most likely you won't kill him before he gets you but... you never know. I have gotten some many turn one assaults with this guy, one actually ended up leaving 50 conscripts and a commissar dead due to combat resolution, heh, one turn, he thought it would tarpit him...

5 Swooping hawks (132)
Exarch w/ sunrifle

14 shots hitting on 2's and 3's
assault 24" range, you'll fail one of those 2+ saves

10x Stormboyz with an 'eavy armored PK Nob; 160.

I chase you down with my 12+1d6" move, then gut you in assault.

10 dire avengers (167)
exarch, twin catapults, bladestorm and defend

move 6" and shoot 18" giving me an effective range of 24" pumping out 32 shots with good accuracy.
if you do manage to make it to combat... my higher initiative and you at -1A should pull me through.

7 Pathfinders- 168 points

Heh, a 2+ cover save basically negates your shuripults, and I just shoot kill pin, shoot kill pin, shoot kill pin.

dayve110 wrote:10 dire avengers (167)
exarch, twin catapults, bladestorm and defend

move 6" and shoot 18" giving me an effective range of 24" pumping out 32 shots with good accuracy.
if you do manage to make it to combat... my higher initiative and you at -1A should pull me through.

6 Warbikes including a PK Nob (185)

18 TL S5 shots with an effective range of 30" (12" move + 18" range), and a 4+ cover save. Or possible I'd just turbo turn 1, charge turn 2. I won't lose many with a 3+ invulnerable, and in combat I think I'd wreck you. 4 S9 + 20 S4 on the charge.

EDIT: This also works against the Pathfinders.

As for the bikers

Damn, you win... But only because even 1 warbiker could kill 7 pathfinders in HTH, heh.

BeRzErKeR wrote:

dayve110 wrote:10 dire avengers (167)
exarch, twin catapults, bladestorm and defend

move 6" and shoot 18" giving me an effective range of 24" pumping out 32 shots with good accuracy.
if you do manage to make it to combat... my higher initiative and you at -1A should pull me through.

6 Warbikes including a PK Nob (185)

18 TL S5 shots with an effective range of 30" (12" move + 18" range), and a 4+ cover save. Or possible I'd just turbo turn 1, charge turn 2. I won't lose many with a 3+ invulnerable, and in combat I think I'd wreck you. 4 S9 + 20 S4 on the charge.

EDIT: This also works against the Pathfinders.

Fine, I'll go with a deep striking Vendetta. 130 points.

Uh, I'm not sure that would do it, dude. If you move 6" or less in order to shoot at me, 4 S9 attacks hitting on a 4+ will ruin your day. If you move over 6" you can't shoot all that much, and I'm STILL dropping 4 S9 attacks on you every turn. Even hitting on a 6+, one will get through eventually.

Alright, I can beat that,

Hydra Flak Tank-70 pts
Hydra Flak Tank-70 pts




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BeRzErKeR wrote:Uh, I'm not sure that would do it, dude. If you move 6" or less in order to shoot at me, 4 S9 attacks hitting on a 4+ will ruin your day. If you move over 6" you can't shoot all that much, and I'm STILL dropping 4 S9 attacks on you every turn. Even hitting on a 6+, one will get through eventually.

Alright, but what makes you think he will let you get in range, he moves faster, and he would deep strike, lending him an advantage, b/c even if you were in the middle of the board, to decrease the max. range away from you, that is still over 3 ft. which the orks won't make it to, sadly, orks can't beat everything....

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Alright, but what makes you think he will let you get in range, he moves faster, and he would deep strike, lending him an advantage, b/c even if you were in the middle of the board, to decrease the max. range away from you, that is still over 3 ft. which the orks won't make it to, sadly, orks can't beat everything....

I turbo-boost 24", move 12", then assault 6". Boom, I'm in range, and for the one turn when he gets free shots at me, I have a 3+ cover save.

EDIT: Also, if he's moving faster than m, he's not shooting. That's fine with me, the board's only so big, I'll happily chase him around till doomsday. And if I start to fall behind too badly, I turboboost again, right up next to him. Max move is 18", which by a happy coincidence is my assault range. He can't possibly get away, and if he's trying to he can't possibly kill me.

Alright, he deep-strikes, shoots, kills 2 boys, make a LD. test, blah blah blah pass. you move up, he kills one, you miss with everything, he kills two boyz, you get a hit, you score a penetrating, if you don't get a 5 or 6, game over.

That really depends. DOES he kill two boyz first turn? 4+ cover, remember, then 3+ cover on turn 2, he shoots, kills one more, but all that matters is the Nob. If he's moving 12" per turn, his average kill rate is NOT 1 bike per turn; 1 weapon, not a 100% chance to hit, not a 100% chance to wound, and a 50% to ignore it anyway. So that means he has to be moving 6" (unless he's sitting still, which would be dumb), meaning I reach him on the second turn. 4 attacks, 2 hits (not 1), most likely 2 pens as it's S9 against rear armor, and anything above shaken is fine in my book. Actually stunned would be the best bar a destroyed result, since it keeps him from moving or shooting an guarantees 3 S9 hits next turn.

Alright, he deep strikes shoots 3 Las-cannons its a 3+ re-rollable to hit, so every 1/6 fails to hit, its str 9 so every 1/6 fails to wound. So he shoots, 3 hit, 2 wound, 1 dead ork. next turn, you turbo-boost. He shoots, 2 hit, 2 wound 1 die. you move up charge fail to hit with all. He moves back, shoots, hits 3, 2 wound, 2 dead orks. next turn, you move up, you hit with one, 3 glances, so let's assume penatrate. If you don't get a 5 or 6, he moves back and kills you. Odds are in his favor.


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BeRzErKeR wrote:

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

Max move is 18", which by a happy coincidence is my assault range.

Tsk Tsk Tsk... unless you are touching him, it is not within range, and you could not touch him without assaulting, which you cannot if you turbo-boost.