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Really interesting and great stuff, love this thread!
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Thanks for the Picture comparison....They look so well done...I like them!
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Post by: derd0m
Very unique and striking colour combination, luvin' it!
Consider that thread subscribed  .
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Post by: Old Man Ultramarine
FYI Brightlances are upside down. Or is that the only way they fit?
Is the Wasp a full resin kit?
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Post by: SebastionSynn
he's right, you have the brightlances upside down.
and why did you drill a hole in the middle of the guardians guts, did you magnetize them? if so i'd like to see the magnet in the weapon as this could maybe help me solve the problem i have of weapons popping off every now and then when their loaded into their case.
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Post by: finnan
yeah, I know the 'lances are upside down, sadly that was the only way they'd fit, not that it bothers me too much.
I didn't drill a hole in them (or magnetise them) - I got the more basic Guardians wher you only have to stick the backpack on and then the weapon arm has a peg on it that slots into the belly. Nice and simple, if perhaps a little less dynamic than the other Guardians. Did the trick with this technique though.
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Post by: spookman
Love your painting style. Beautiful.
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Post by: Asphalt
Quite impressive. I need to ask, how do you flock grass?
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Post by: finnan
grass - I've just got the standard grass in a tub from GW. I water down some PVA glue, put that on the base (fairly heavily) and then place the flock on the base with some tweezers, turn the mini upside down and give the bottom of the base a few taps to get rid of the excess and leave it to dry; that's it : )
(I do the sand first, before I undercoat the mini, and just do a coat of black wash and then a coat of Devlan) Automatically Appended Next Post: [I have to admit that I'm fairly lazy when it comes to bases, I need to put more effort into them... not entirely sure how I'd go about that - I guess moving onto bigger, more display-type bases...?] Automatically Appended Next Post: Old Man Ultramarine: the Wasp is plastic and resin
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Post by: McNutty
This is a great thread, your Eldar look beautiful.
Makes me want to tackle something with a more vivid paint scheme than my current projects.
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sometimes I think that the stronger/brighter colours are more forgiving than simpler ones...
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the finished Wasp : )
it hasn't turned out too badly all things considered
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
The wasp looks great! Though if you plan on doing another I suggest putting the aerial peg at a slight angle to give it a sense of motion. Other than that fantastic work
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Post by: SebastionSynn
looks really nice. 1 question though, why'd you decide not to put the legs on the model and instead make it look like a skimmer?
consider the idea stolen BTW, as i like the way it looks as a skimmer, and it will go very well with the my jetbikes and tanks like that.
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Post by: finnan
I just thought a Wasp should be a skimmer/flyer rather than a jumper... that'd make it a grasshopper, right? ; )
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Post by: Earthbeard
I love the wasp, looks bloody grand.
Bet the pointy eared sod, quitely buzzes as he flies around
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Post by: taffiarti
Fantastic job on the wasp
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Post by: Reanimator
More awesomeness, your paint schemes and quality inspire me to try new (sometimes borrowed) things with my own eldar. Might have to go back and reexamine my own shadow spectres after seeing yours...
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Post by: SebastionSynn
I just thought a Wasp should be a skimmer/flyer rather than a jumper... that'd make it a grasshopper, right? ; )
LMAO. you have a point there, and maybe Forgeworld should have thought of that when they named this thing, and instead of Wasp, could have called it a Mantis or something just as deadly that actually walks around. At any rate I really do like the looks of this thing as a skimmer, and from what i see here with just a little more work it could be turned into an MKI version NightWing, so I will definitely be using this idea in the future.
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Post by: finnan
Back into Guardian mode with the next squad - simply reversed the colours... not entirely sure how I like it so far, I think I like more dark, but we shall see!
A little bit of tidying up to do on the top of the body stripe and the soul gem : )
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Post by: Hangfire
That's so wierd, I just logged on to hunt for your blog and here it is, at the top.
Glad to see you're back on Eldar.
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Post by: finnan
glad I could please with my timing lol
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Post by: king88mob
Have you explained the hole in the chest ? Because if not colour me curious.
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Post by: finnan
it's the more basic Guardian spru, there's only three bits to it - legs, torso, left arm and head is one piece, and then the right arm + weaopn and left hand is the second and the backpack is the third. The hole in the chest is where the peg for the arm goes.
I got these ones for ease of assembly basically, and it allows me to do everything, then just paint the weapon arm seperately then whack it on after I'm done. A lot less fiddly.
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Post by: DX3
Very cool idea on that Wasp..
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Post by: SebastionSynn
@Finnan -The second scheme seems like it's going to look just as good as the first squad, nice painting dude. BTW, have you seen the new Forgeworld Eldar stuff that will be avaliable on Games Day? The new Phantom Titan, a WraithSeer model, and a group of Corsair models will all be on sale soon. There's a thread for it here on Ddakka, with pics.
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Post by: finnan
have I seen the new FW Eldar stuff? Hell yes! Loving the Corsairs, and am already thinking that they could be a Wasp/Dragonfly Aspect ; )
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Post by: SilverMK2
No thoughts on buying a Phantom? I think that would look absolutely gorgeous in your army colours
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Post by: finnan
lol
the side of me that sees nice, shiny, new things says, "Hell yes! Get it now, get it now, get it now!"
the side of me that struggles to finish painting a Wraithlord says, "Whoa, nelly! That thing's fecking HUGE!"
... so I might have to practice on a revenant first LOL
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Post by: Mastiff
Wow, that Wasp is brilliant! I absolutely love how compact but functional it looks. And it really suits the eldar much more than primitive "walking".
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Post by: finnan
thank you : )
I do like the Eldar walkers, but they serve a seperate function... plus I'm just way too autistic/ocd to let a walker be called a wasp - wasps fly! ; )
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Add wings to it and call it a day lol
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
Yep, you've inspired me to paint up a few of the eldar units I have lying around. I especially like the xmen uniforms, but truly, your whole blog is great. Mad props!
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Post by: finnan
never one to just sit back and simply paint, here's an idea that I've been thinking about for a little while... hope the photo is clear enough...
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Post by: Corndoggy
I looked at the bottom drawing and thought "hey that looks like an eldar B-wing!" then saw the note XD
Looks awesome, can't wait to see how this turns out
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Post by: SebastionSynn
Ok, I shudder at the thought of cutting into a Forgeworld Eldar model, but I've always been told since I was a little kid that "If your going to do something, do it right."
So with that thought in mind, why not try this instead, it will require very precise cutting on your part but the end result will be worth it. once you have removed the wings and pulsar, begin cutting a trench into the cut edge of the wings, deep enough that you'll be able to insert a large piece of thick plasticard and pin it into place from the underside of the wing. Then do the same for the main body, this trench will have to deeper and longer than the one in the wings, enough for you to be able to insert the plasticard into the main body and use a lg(ish) rivet pin, one that has a flat or slightly rounded head. Now dress up the edge of the plasticard with some kind of GS design, magnetize the body and the pulsar, and you will be able to have this thing start out as a flyer, land on the table at which point the wings fold forward into their "normal" position, and it now acts like a Skimmer tank. in this way, you'll still be able to use the model as an Eldar super heavy Lynx, but can also use it as an Eldar flyer.
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Post by: FantasyBob
finnan wrote:the finished Wasp : )
it hasn't turned out too badly all things considered
Very nice!
btw, looking at this Wasp i was thinking: "how it'll be if this is gonna be the head of a titan!?". Man, my head is craaaaazy!
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Post by: finnan
first half squad of Guardians done in the secondary colour scheme : )
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Post by: Lorna
This has been an amazing blog so far.
Awesomely painted models, and loving the tron stuff.
Keep it going man.
Subbed
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Post by: SebastionSynn
looks good dude, but the black faceplates are messing up the clean rectangular blocks. maybe do them in a dark grey instead?
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Seb: the faceplates are the same grey as the body stripe... I have to admit that it looks darker in the photo than in the flesh...
what I've done with my day:
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Post by: SilverMK2
Really like the style you have going on for your army.
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Post by: finnan
test for what I want to do with my Avatar. Nothing terribly innovative - I want him to look like he's made out of vocanic rock/metal with a molten core.
I think it needs more red on it. Not sure about the cracks, whether to have them yellow or white. It's deceptive at the moment as the yellow wash is pretty distracting. Hard to imagine that the finished piece will actually be pretty dark.
shot 1 = room light
shot 2 = sunlight
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
I need to see more of the model covered!
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Post by: Grunt_For_Christ
I really like this muted orange with black. I especially like the wraithguard as I think they're one of my favourite units in the game. My eldar are on the shelf until the new codex but this blog gives me a lot of inspiration on how to finish my orange predominant craftworld.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Just found this thread now, kept skipping past it before for some reason.
Glad i decided to have a look, its all golden!! Great work, its all really crisp and fresh, very nice!
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Post by: Underachiever
Very nice colour palettes that fire dragon Exarch is really nice. As for the lock on the hoverboard! He's just pimp!
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Post by: lessthan1337
Incredibly crisp and perfect! Good job!
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Post by: Savnock
I'd say more white in the cracks for a nice high contrast.
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Post by: djdutton
great color scheme. The sharp edges break up the normal "flowing" look of eldar, good job!
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Post by: Foxtale
That Wraithguard model looks fantastic!
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Post by: finnan
more work on the Avatar - the Tangerine stage lol
thank you for all the positive comments : )
Savnock: I think you're right, it needs the white to make it pop
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Post by: SebastionSynn
@ Finnan - please message me a step by step, of what your doing for your Avatar. I have been trying for over a year to get that kind of look and haven't figured it out yet.
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Post by: finnan
the 'I've Been In The Sun Too Long' stage
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Post by: Popsicles
finnan wrote:thank you : )
I do like the Eldar walkers, but they serve a seperate function... plus I'm just way too autistic/ocd to let a walker be called a wasp - wasps fly! ; )
They do indeed, but serpents and cobras do not. Doesn't force you to put wheels/legs on the Eldar vehicles named after them, does it? The Wasp Assault Walker is more of a jumper anyway, but it nonetheless looks plain weird and unfinished without its legs. Also, you could easily remedy the bright lances by twisting the barrels, or even just their tips, 180 degrees. As is they look eyecatchingly goofy.
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Post by: Foxtale
Eyecatchingly goofy? They look like underslung webslingers! =D
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Post by: finnan
Charadon Granite over the red, and some white in the cracks - I like the white, but I'll probably neaten it up a bit with some yellow along the transitions
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Post by: Deminyn
*thunk*
jaw hitting floor
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Post by: shingouki
Deminyn wrote:*thunk*
jaw hitting floor
same here.
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
The white really adds the frosting to the cake!
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
The White does make it look awesome...I totally Agree!
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Post by: finnan
more work done on the Avatar, and I'm a little surprised at how quickly (and well!) it's going... but having said that, I haven't even thought about any of the fiddly details yet.
You can see where I'll probably go back in with some more white to fill some gaps, but on the whole, looking pretty good : )
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Post by: djphranq
*subscribed*
Great work!
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
That avatar is looking fantastic. Love the molten body effect. Cant wait to see this guy finished up
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Post by: finnan
I'm now heartily sick of orange
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Post by: finnan
Avatar progress. All the orange and red done, starting on the last of the Charadon... will hopefully manage to get that done today (post afternoon nap), then I can start thinking bronze for the armour.
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Looks Amazing...I am also doing a huge project and am sitting at 50% so I know your pain of almost being done lol
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what's your big project?
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Post by: finnan
That's all the bodywork done I think. I might go back in and do a bit more work on the back of the neck/collar tomorrow, but other than that he's looking pretty good. I'll do the white in the cracks tomorrow too, getting a bit tired and sloppy to do it tonight!
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
finnan wrote:what's your big project?
I have been working on an entire Ork army and it takes me a to paint since I am so picky about how they look..The project I am about to finish is my Big Mek with KFF. But it has no where near the cool special effect that your Avatar has...Also Watched my Tron Bluray and thought of you!
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Post by: finnan
lol
there should be more Tron-inspired Eldar about! *Obviously* I'm going to be getting the Forgeworld Corsairs kit, and I've already been thinking about doing them black with a single glowing orange stripe on them
Never painted any orks (can't think why not), but they do strike me as being fairly fiddly critters - good luck : )
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Post by: Behind th Mask
I love the Scheme on those Guardians man. Keep it up, it looks beautiful so far.
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Orks have a sort of Organized chaos to painting them!
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Post by: finnan
more done on the Avatar, and I think I may have a little bit of Avatar Fatigue, but I'll push on through!
The bronze was a bit of a chore to do as it doesn't go on too cleanly, but got there in the end. This is just the basecoat and a wash of Badab Black. Next will be highlights of bronze, then gold to give it a nice, rich burnished look.
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Post by: SebastionSynn
man, I REALLY hope that mine even looks half as good as yours does right now.
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Post by: Lorna
Thats awesome man.
I would have given up long before you even reached the waist.
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Post by: Matrim
oh lawd
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Post by: Santobell
Yeah thats somewhere on the good side of Awesome really well done matey can't wait to see him finished just great.
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
I like how the copper came out.
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Post by: finnan
I highlighted some of the bronze this afternoon - it's going to be a loonnngggg job... laziness is tempting me to leave it as the dirty bronze but I'll stand firm! I don't want to get rid of the shadowing completely, so it'll still look fairly dark. Not looking forward to all the gem brackets though...
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Have fun with that!
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Post by: finnan
gem brackets done - nowhere near as painful as I'd feared. Right leg = highlighted; left leg = unhighlighted. Not too much difference between the two really...
Also first forearm highlighted up - again, it's not all that obvious, but I think the effort is worth it, it does make a difference to the washed/dirty bronze.
I'm thinking about doing the chestplate (wraith)bone to have a bit of a contrast from the bronze...
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
Don't give up. You're doing a truly spectacular job! I love the bronze on magma look and the amount of time you're taking is really apparent. Keep it up. Imho your effort seems well worth it. You're nearing the completion of yet another amazing looking model! Props!
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Post by: finnan
thank you : )
he's going to be my Golden Demon entry this year - first time of entering!
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Post by: lipsdapips
Your style when painting your Eldar is awesome.
It's kind of chalky, yet, at the same time smooth :|
Fantastic stuff as usual Finnan
Lipsdapips
( http://ultramarinesblog.blogspot.com)
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Post by: finnan
I know what you mean about the chalkiness, not entirey sure how that happens, but it's not entirely unpleasant lol
thank you btw : )
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Post by: FlammingGaunt
Avatar looks awesome but you got to add the bloodied hands.
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Post by: finnan
I was thinking about the bloodied hands and was somewhat nervous about them... or rather, doing them and making them look good! Any suggestions anyone?
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Post by: SebastionSynn
a red ink wash maybe?
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Post by: finnan
the wash might be too transluscent... I think it's the random element that seems scary with this part...
(having just done a little bit of visual research, most of the Avatars done don't have bloody hands... hmmm)
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Post by: dantay_xv
Humbrol do a nice dark translucent red, or atleast they used to. Its not acrylic, but I liked using it for freshly spilled blood. Plus as its translucent it lets some of the detailing below show through.
Or possibly GW water effects or pva glue with a red wash through it.
Kaela Mensha Khaine, the bloody handed god, or the avatar in his physical form. I think as it goes the arm constantly drips blood (although I could imagine some of it turning to steam from the heat of his body).
Saying that I havent read any Eldar fluff for a while.
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Post by: finnan
"...and thick red gore oozes from his hands and drips from his fingers."
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Post by: dantay_xv
Humbrol translucent red would go nice, will see if I have any minis with it on.... mine dried out
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Post by: finnan
I've got some Water Effect... might be worth experimenting with that, mix in some red paint with it
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Post by: dantay_xv
Should work, paint up some sprue in the same colours as the Avatars hand to get a good idea of how it would look, without ruining your gorgeous model
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Post by: Havok210
I am very late to the party on this post, but kudos on the paintjobs! I am so jealous! :-)
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Post by: superspud
That Avatar is looking brilliant so far. Good work!
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Post by: finnan
more highlighting in gold done today, plus I've gotten around to doing the white on his body and arms - so I'll be on clean up duty tomorrow where I was a bit sloppy!
As an added bonus, here's the Bonesinger I got the other day - I thought his antlers were beyond silly, so off they came. One went on his head and one on his back - much better (although it does mean that he couldn't turn his head, but who cares, he looks pretty!)
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Post by: Segef
Amazing looking avatar.
What are you going to do for the color of the gems on the armor?
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Post by: Krellnus
As always I am so jealous of your talent, it really outdoes everything I and many others are capable of.
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Post by: finnan
thank you. Where you see talent, I think I see the ability to mindlessly repeat the same technique and to use teeny-tiny brushes.
Gems: I think I'm putting of doing them as there are rather a lot of them! I'm thinking pale/cool blues, purples and greens to contrast all the warmth on him at the moment. The loincloth is going to be a darkish blue highlighted up to bright turquoise, and then the hair I'm not decided on yet - possibly a deep blood red...
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Post by: Hangfire
Simply awesome, thanks for putting up your WIP pictures I find them invaluable.
How many hours would you estimate you've spent on your avatar?
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: ) not a problem 'fire
not sure how long I've taken so far... erm, probably around 15-20 hours? (it sounds much longer now that I've thought about it!)
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Post by: FantasyBob
The avatar seems like a magma creature....really impressive!
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Tamiya Clear Red is what I've used for blood/gore. Very thick and syruppy so it looks like an actual layer of liquid over the model.
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Post by: dantay_xv
Like the humbrol translucent red that i use
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Post by: finnan
I'll have to see if I can get my hands on some - thanks guys
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
I would leave out the red, only because I could see the blood instantly evaporating from the crazy heat coming from his body, I would all though maybe add another color to the Helmet, it looks great but a little too bronze. IMO
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Post by: finnan
there's the gems to do which will put a little grunt onto the helmet, and there's the hair as well which will take a little attention away from it - I'm thinking reds/purples or maybe black for the hair...
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Post by: finnan
just a little break from the Avatar - first of the Corsairs, or as I'm going to call them the Fianna Teancuil
>ahem< for those of the nerdly persuasion:
Fianna: (Irish Gaelic) small, semi-independent warrior bands who lived apart from society
Teain: fire
Cuil: fly (as in insect)
Fianna Teancuil = Firefly Corsairs
>nerdism over<
I suppose I should say: this is more of a test than anything else - I wanted more of a Tron look going on with stripes, but I think to do that I need to think about assembly more - leave the arms to last like I did with my Guardians, that'll give me more room to work with.
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Post by: jbark95
nice painting
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Post by: SebastionSynn
NICE! and the paintjob looks good too.
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Post by: finnan
thank you : )
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
I like it, I think it is going to look awesome in a squad!
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Post by: Krellnus
Nice guardian, could we perhaps get a side and/or rear shot of him? I wanna check the fin like things on his back XD
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Post by: FlammingGaunt
Corsair looks good but i'm more looking forward to bonesinger and Khaines bloody hands!
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Post by: finnan
Krellnus: ask and ye shall recieve!
made a start on the gems - even I admit that I'm dragging my feet with this part because either you get them right or you don't, no room to manoever or fudge it! Just based and washed so far (apart from one which was a test-gem)
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Post by: Krellnus
Thanks dude, but where did you get them/make them from, they look awesome and I do want some. The finished gem looks just right but perhaps you might want to do them so the Avatar is glowing 'into' them like catching some of the light he would radiate due to being a giagantic molten statue?
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Post by: finnan
they're the Forgeworld Corsairs, a conversion kit. You get the heads, weapons, jetpacks and wings - you need basic Guardians to put them on
I'm wary of doing some orientated lighting, in case it looks like a mess! Some of the gems are pretty small, so I'm not going to be able to do too much on them... perhaps some yellow highlighting instead of white?
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gems on the leg done. Some are okay and I'm happy with them, others... well, I'm glad that they're pretty small and aren't the main focus!
35 more gems to go on the gauntlets, shoulders and helmet >sigh<
Also started work on the spearhead - rough transitions so far. I need to put more midtones back in, and then brighten up the white more
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Post by: Marcin Ciszewicz
Fabulously blended orange on your Corsair, and the Avatar looks stunning in its magma bound glory, although... just an idea, but have your thought about introducing some color variation to those metal parts? Unless my eyes play tricks on me, I'd say the parts closer to the cracks in the armor should be brighter, maybe reddish. Just a suggestion though.
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I hadn't thought about making the metal hotter nearer the edges - good idea. I think in my head the armour was invulnerable to the heat, or something like that!
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Post by: Marcin Ciszewicz
Well, it wouldn't be too strange for the armor to be able to contain the heat, but then again, there are enough cracks to let it seep out and affect the surroundings. Like I said, it would look pretty interesting, should the metal heat up as well, perhaps a gemstone cracked from heat might not look out of place.
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
I am loving those gems! You're doing great! Don't give up now!
The wings are also a great look, and I'm glad you gave them a sufficiently nerdy name. They wouldn't be as cool without it.
EDIT:
The right foot in your last picture looks a bit off to me, I'm trying to figure it out, but unsure. I think maybe the white along the ridges is a bit strange? Not sure... but maybe you were going to touch all that up anyway (in which case, ignore this) when you started working on the base.
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retouches are definitely going to be needed lol I'm saving that to do as the last job once everything else is done.
Can't quite see what you mean about the foot, other than to me, the white looks too grubby and needs retouching, although it might just be the angle... the base is going to be dark stone and have it glowing where he's stepping
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
Sounds awesome to me!  I wasn't sure if I should mention anything, but then it always helps to have other eyes with things like this. I'm super impressed with the progress thus far!
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Post by: finnan
oh it definitely helps to have other eyes! I was once working on a design and had a spelling mistake staring me in the face for several weeks and I didn't notice it until someone else pointed it out! lol
thank you
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not too much work done today - most of the gems done, but I have yet to put the final white dot on. Slightly rubbish shot, so apologies!
I also restarted the spearhead, it just wasn't doing what I wanted it to do, so I took out the dark blue and went for a lighter, cleaner look, and it's working much better, although I had to stop as it was too hot and the paint wasn't flowing very nicely!
Back to work tomorrow (boo!) so progress will slow down, but I'm really quite pleased with progress on him so far, and thank you for all the comments, which should include the response of the manager of the local gaming store which was: "F***ing hell! Oops, sorry, wow..."  not quite the response I was looking for, but I think it was positive ; )
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Looking super sweet!
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Post by: Marcin Ciszewicz
Fabulous lava effect on the torso, especially on the back, where it is not obscured by anything. Love it.
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Post by: Krellnus
I agree with Marcin, fabulous work.
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Post by: origarmi chicken
*BOOM*
That was my mind being blown
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Post by: finnan
as ever, thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot to me.
Not in the mood to do any painting (two days back at work and I'm already tired. Who'd be a teacher?!), but wanted to do something, so I started to put together another Corsair. I'm trying it without arms this time so I can put some more detail in before I put the arms on last. I took one of the Dark Eldar Reaver helmets and trimmed the back down for this one, my reasoning being that if the Corsairs are a mix of Craftworld Eldar, those nudging towards Dark Eldar (Grey Eldar...?) and perhaps some Dark Ones as well, they'd have a mix of looks. Plus, I love the blank helmets, and it'll help with the Tron look!
I also filed down the wings so that they're a bit softer, rounder and a bit more insect-like.
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
The avatar is coming along very nicely. As for the corsairs the helmet idea is pure win. I would like to see some dark eldar to eldar jetbike conversions, you would do that quite well i believe. Just a thought.
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Post by: TheChronoTrigger
Avatars looking great, nice blending on the spear
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the spearhead's the bit I'm not very happy with at the moment! lol
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Post by: dantay_xv
Have you considered looking at nucleosaur's Grey Knights? His blades are sweet look as if they are really glowing
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@dantay - just had a look at nucleosaur's Knights: beautiful! And, I have to say (about the blades), very simple, as most good designs tend to be... I almost wish that the Avatar didn't have runes on the blade, as that is making it more fussy, but there you go. It looks like nucleosaur has just used turquoise, white and then another colour for a little bit of a deeper tone... wonder what he used... Automatically Appended Next Post: ... and just read how he did them... or, that he used an airbrush, which does expain the smoothness a little. Never used an airbrush (for anything), can't think why, I always thought that they'd be better for larger areas...
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Post by: dantay_xv
I have the GW spray gun, which is only useful for spraying large areas/ large quantities of models. It has no control whatsoever..... but its good when you have a horde to paint.
You could get it as smooth with wet blending I would have thought. Nucleosaurs whire is insane... truly like it glows.
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he said that he was using some oil paints for some stuff too - that'd help with the brightness (but they take an AGE to dry).
I was looking at the GW spray gun last week! As I tend to be on the slower side of glacial when painting, and I don't paint huge units I don't think it'd be too much help (until I crumble to the innevitable and buy a Phantom Titan! LOL)
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finnan wrote: I almost wish that the Avatar didn't have runes on the blade, as that is making it more fussy, but there you go.
You could file/shave them off. I don't think it would hurt your look at all. Just an idea.
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it's an idea... it deserves some thought. Hmmm...
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Post by: TheChronoTrigger
do you have an airbrush? consider something like this
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I don't, no, and even with my astonishingly flimsy willpower, I don't think I could justify getting one just for blades - although they do look very good.
To be honest, I think I'm just crumbling under the pressure a bit with it - it's come out so well so far, I don't want to cock it up over something relatively straightforward (and comparatively small and easy) as the spearhead.
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Post by: TheChronoTrigger
I agree, i think it looks fantastic as is. Might be as simple as picking the runes out with some color, were you thinking that?
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
It was just an idea if you absolutely didn't want the runes there - if they were too much of a hassle... but really, I think the speahhead is already looking quite nice. You could highlight it a bit more, and maybe add some lightening like streaks, but the rest of the model is looking so great, and the spearhead isn't at all as bad as it seems like it's being made out to be. I would say just take a bit of a break or something and paint up the spear shaft or work on the rest of the gems. It's still looking good Finnan!
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: )
a nice tight macro shot to highlight all the flaws isn't helping either lol
no, I know it's not a disaster or anything, so it's okay - but I do quite like the idea of taking off the runes (any excuse to get the file out!), it would make it a lot cleaner, AND actually make it easier to do what I'd like - I want to put a spectrum on the blade, like you see in glass/crystal, so I'd have more room if the runes were gone.
I'm taking a break from it and doing another corsair ; )
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finnan wrote:: )
a nice tight macro shot to highlight all the flaws isn't helping either lol
no, I know it's not a disaster or anything, so it's okay - but I do quite like the idea of taking off the runes (any excuse to get the file out!), it would make it a lot cleaner, AND actually make it easier to do what I'd like - I want to put a spectrum on the blade, like you see in glass/crystal, so I'd have more room if the runes were gone.
I'm taking a break from it and doing another corsair ; )
Haha, yeah. Good riddance to those unneeded runes! There are plenty of them all over his body already. Good choice of distraction too, those corsairs are great!
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a little break from the Avatar - as predicted, now I'm back at work, progress has ground to a halt. I'm going to do some work on him today and see what I get done. I'd like to get the spearhead and maybe the shaft done.
In the meantime, here's the second Corsair, with a headswap. Not too sure about him really... I like the helmet, it stands out, and I like the wings... I tried to do some stripes on him, Tron style, but I don't think it works all that well because you can't see them too well, but hey, I know for the next one now!
(the shots have come out really quite dark - the armour is dark grey, not black. Must improve photography skills!)
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Post by: Krellnus
I like the second guardian, is the head from the Dark Eldar reaver sprue?
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it sure is - I had to trim the back down so it'd fit in - I reasoned that if the Corsairs were a little bit naughtier than Craftworld Eldar, the'd be nudging towards Dark Eldar styling for some of them (and it make it look more Tron-ish!)
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
The second corsair is way cooler looking. I love the paint job too! Looks great. I was thinking and had an idea for your corsairs if you didn't want to buy more forgeworld ones. You could convert some guardians withe the reaver heads and use plastic card to make the 4 diamond shaped wings like the parachute pack things in tron. I think that would look pretty cool
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Post by: finnan
you get enough bits for 10 Corsairs with the Forgeworld package, so it's a decent sized unit. The gre and orange is a nice, simple scheme, although I have to admit that he looked pretty cool mostly orange, so I might try the next one with more orange on him ; )
I've got 3 more Dark Eldar heads, so each one can look individual, but the unit as a whole should have some unity trough the colour scheme (I hope! lol)
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argh! bloody spearhead! Why is something that should be relatively straightforward causing me so much grief?! It's now off the model, being stripped and starting again from scratch.
I was happy with the blade, and tried to do the runes gold, but with a black wash they just looked dirty, and because they'd had a couple of layers of paint by then, they were losing their crispness. It was either try *again*, file them off, or strip it all... so I've gone for the strip option and hopefully I can think of a better way of doing the blade altogether.
I think, realistically, if I keep the runes I think the blade shouldn't be a crystal one as it'll be difficult to keep everything clean. I don't mind having the blade bronze, but it doesn't show off that I can do crystal blades.
If I were to do it crystal, I think I'd take the runes off, which I'm reluctant to do as it sort of feels like cheating in that I can't do the runes so I'll just get rid of them.
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okay - so, blade stripped, re-undercoated, and I'm going for the bronze. The fact that it snapped off did not help to lift my mood about it all, but it's all good...
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
finnan wrote:okay - so, blade stripped, re-undercoated, and I'm going for the bronze. The fact that it snapped off did not help to lift my mood about it all, but it's all good...
I hate when that crap happens!!
The corsairs are both looking great! I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the whole squad in action!
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Post by: MajorTom11
The corsairs are awesome, and I like the scheme too. you may need to highlight and ink a bit more, the grey/black looks pretty flat, while the orange is so vibrant. Perfect head choice btw -
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Post by: SebastionSynn
The second corsair is way cooler looking
I have to agree, especially on the helmet bit. that helmet style looks more fitting for a person who spends a vast majority of their time in space.
sorry to hear that the spear tip snapped, but it should be a large enough blade to pin it back in place, correct?
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Post by: finnan
luckily it wasn't the tip that snapped, it was the spear shaft, so it should be easy to glue it back on >phew<
I think the anxiety level is rising a bit for the Avatar because he's actually pretty close to being finished.
Corsairs - I will admit to being lazy about the grey and it's not highlighted at all! (which I don't mind) But I take on board the suggestion to do a little highlighting, perhaps just some hard-edge highlighting just to lift it a bit - will give it a go on the next one
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Post by: Krellnus
finnan wrote:you get enough bits for 10 Corsairs with the Forgeworld package, so it's a decent sized unit. The gre and orange is a nice, simple scheme, although I have to admit that he looked pretty cool mostly orange, so I might try the next one with more orange on him ; )
I've got 3 more Dark Eldar heads, so each one can look individual, but the unit as a whole should have some unity trough the colour scheme (I hope! lol)
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argh! bloody spearhead! Why is something that should be relatively straightforward causing me so much grief?! It's now off the model, being stripped and starting again from scratch.
I was happy with the blade, and tried to do the runes gold, but with a black wash they just looked dirty, and because they'd had a couple of layers of paint by then, they were losing their crispness. It was either try *again*, file them off, or strip it all... so I've gone for the strip option and hopefully I can think of a better way of doing the blade altogether.
I think, realistically, if I keep the runes I think the blade shouldn't be a crystal one as it'll be difficult to keep everything clean. I don't mind having the blade bronze, but it doesn't show off that I can do crystal blades.
If I were to do it crystal, I think I'd take the runes off, which I'm reluctant to do as it sort of feels like cheating in that I can't do the runes so I'll just get rid of them.
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okay - so, blade stripped, re-undercoated, and I'm going for the bronze. The fact that it snapped off did not help to lift my mood about it all, but it's all good...
For the gold, maybe you could try something like badab black that has been watered down a fair bit mixed with gryphonne sepia, it should hopefully tone the gold (because of the black) but not look as brassy as gryphonne normally looks (again because of the black)
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Post by: finnan
I did a base of bronze, two washes of Gryphs, and then a little bit of Devlan around the runes, highlighted with Burnished gold, then Shining gold, then Shining with a bit of Mithril silver in it on the blade
I love taking shots of what I'm doing - it shows up all the horrible bits  (but at least I get to cover them up afterwards!)
two different shots of the blade (which look totally different, which is a bit odd), and it looks okay, a bit dull perhaps, but okay. Then a shot of the spear shaft, which isn't looking too bad so far, just needs a bit of tidying up
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Post by: NeonHate
only one word can describe this thread and it's contents...
"FAN-FRICKIN-TASTIC!"
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Post by: finnan
technically, is that one word, or three?
thank you very much : )
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Post by: Krellnus
Imo atm the moment the spear reminds me of the Uplifting Primer would say...
Eldar craftsmanship is inferior to our own.
Seriously though, is it just me or does one side of the spear seem to be more highlighted than the other? Or did you put the after shot before the before shot?
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Post by: finnan
it's the shot - I did both sides pretty much the same. When I look at it, it's kind of inbtween the two shots - not as dark as the second one, but not quite as harsh as the top. Like I say, it's okay and it'll do...
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almost there...
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Post by: SebastionSynn
I'm really liking that heat effect on the spear shaft, but i think when i finally get around to doing mine, i'll go for less black and just do the hilt blackened and heat damaged. great job so far, looks really sharp.
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Post by: finnan
you read my mind!
I was thinking of going from yellow to orange to red to black and then to bronze... I kinda like the black shaft though, and I don't particularly want to overdo the whole bronze thing
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
We are so close man, just push that final bit and enter that stuff and win!
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
Wow the spear looks so much better in bronze and Im lovin the heated spear shaft. The only thing I think it nEeds is a loincloth in some sort of neutral cool color. Just to break up all the bright lava. Keep up the nice work!
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Post by: finnan
the plan for the loincloth is a peacock blue highligted up so it looks a bit iridescent - to tie into the counter-weight gem on the spearbutt, and to contrast all the warm colours with some cool ones - some of the gems are cools, but they don't show up too well, so this'll be the main contrasting area : )
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Post by: Reanimator
I'm curious, did you choose the orange and yellow/ black colour for the rest of your eldar because you knew this was how you were going to do your avatar? Because right now this is shaping up to be a very coherent looking army centred around that beasty.
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Post by: finnan
no, I didn't actually - but now you've suggested it, it sounds like a genius idea, so, yes I did!
The Guardians just seemd like a cool idea at the tiime and they turned out quite well. I was originally planning on doing a squad of grey with a yellow stripe, one grey with a green stripe and the last grey with a blue stripe. But I like the yellow, it fits in with my ideas for fluff for my craftworld, and hey, it looks great : )
(it also kinda ties into my Corsairs too - them being slightly darker characters and them going darker/deeper on the spectrum)
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Post by: Goterdamrung
I love how the spear is heating up to the touch, very nice affect.
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I'm going to do the stone heating up around his feet too : )
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loincloth done and glued on. Gems on the chest done too, so only the base to do, then general clean up and tidying and he's done
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Post by: Lorna
The cloth relaly helps with the colours. It also brings out the gems on the armour. All in all, it's an amazing piece of work.
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Post by: Krellnus
Wow, that loincloth, just wow...
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Post by: SebastionSynn
nice job dude, really looking liker golden daemon material.
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Post by: finnan
Avatar done!
very proud of what I've done and that I saw this project through  So he's going to be my Golden Demon entry this year - I have a plinth for him, so I have to figure out how to attach him to that, and then the potential nightmare of transporting him, but that can wait : )
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Looks Amazing Man...You will have to throw us some photo's of it on it's pedestal! It will be an awesome entry
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Post by: Lorna
I'll be sure to keep a look out for this games day.
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Post by: finnan
it's just a little display plinth to raise it a little - surprisingly hard to find display plinths for 50mm+ bases
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Post by: SebastionSynn
that Avatar deserves more than just any old display, it needs something that is as eye catching as it is and these guys are providing just that. not sure what page it's on but they do have a display piece for Eldar that could be easily modified for your Avatar. then again, just wait a little longer and follow the thread, as their working up a display board for my Rev. Titan.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Incredible work on the avatar! Certainly worthy of praise
Sebastion has a good idea about WarMill's custom bases, I am pretty sure he can make just about any design as far as I can tell!
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
It certainly is looking fantastic. You should definitely be feeling proud of your work! Mad props man, mad props.
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Post by: finnan
thank you very much everyone
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Your Welcome!
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some work done on the 'singer (after taking a break after completing the Avatar). Bone areas = a couple of Gryph washes over the white undercoat, yet to be highlighted. Only really done the under-robe and over-robe, but still a bit left to do on them both.
Under-robe = Ice Blue with a wash of Asurmen, then highlighted back up and a final highlight of Skull White (needs neatening up)
Over-robe = Hawks Turquoise, a wash of Asurmen, highlighted back up to Hawks, then 1:1:1 Hawks:Scorpion Green:Ice Blue as the highlight
It's quite odd going back to 28mm after working on the Avatar...
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Post by: Ysclyth
great job on the avatar. looks great!
Bonesinger looks to be coming along nicely. Love the blending, looks very natural. If not a little too bright on the front forward knee.
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yeah, I haven't quite got the under-robe right yet...
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Post by: Coyotebreaks
Liking the where the singer is going. Colours all work nicely with each other.
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Post by: SebastionSynn
what's up with the singer's right hand? in the first pic you have there it looks like this skeleton of arm and hand coming out from under the robe holding the pistol. I know it's supposed to be the armor and all, it just looks weird from this angle.
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Post by: finnan
lol worry not! I haven't thought about what I'm doing with his hands yet, and that was just backwash (sounds wrong...) from washing the... flute? pistol? spiky thingy he's holding.
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
That branch looks stunning!!
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Post by: finnan
I haven't done anything to the branch yet!
(other than a couple of washes of Gryphs Sepia... )
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
Your avatar came out great. The bonesinger is already shaping up to be yet another fantastic model. I cant wait to see what else you do with it
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
finnan wrote:I haven't done anything to the branch yet!
(other than a couple of washes of Gryphs Sepia... )
Even your washes are stunning me man...Your just a stunna! LOL
But it looks very branchy
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
Have I mentioned that you're pretty much my favorite person to see paint? I wish I could see videos of you doing it actually - to hopefully pick up a bit of your technique. Your work is fantastic! The Bonesinger's looking great. Automatically Appended Next Post: If you ever had any pointers for my own painting I would most appreciate it!
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Post by: finnan
@ NakedBatBoy - I think that's possiby one of the nicest things anyone's ever said to me; thank you
Ask and ye shall recieve (kinda) - have you seen this?:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/364790.page
not a video, I know, but might be handy : )
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
Very very handy. Thanks for the link. You should really put that out in the tutorials section if you haven't. It's a great reminder to:
Take my time and not rush things.The thinner the paint the better, because then it's more forgiving and I can do a lot more gradual shading.Not be lazy!
Great to see your work in action. Thanks again! I will try this when I get more time to paint. (I'm currently traveling for the rest of the month...) Though I will attempt to do it with a few less coats, as I want to paint up my whole ork hoard eventuallllly...
I previously was just doing a few coats (Base coats, 1 or 2 washes, touchups, highlights) but i can see how taking more time highlighting could be great and hopefully take my painting up a level!
Anyway - looking forward to more updates!
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Read that tutorial...it's official, you are insane, Fin.
30 layers...? WOW!
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@Slave
 funny you should mention that, my e-mail address is insanelad, so the madness has been recognised!
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Post by: Hangfire
I agree, it should be in the tutorials section....um any chance we could take out my epic fails before we do????
Thanks for your help Finnan, I am making progress, albeit slowly.
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Post by: finnan
they're not epic fails! You're still being way too hard on yourself. Like with any technique or skill, it takes time and practice to get stuff right. I shudder at the thought of my early models (black Eldar drybrushed with silver and that was it! /vomits).
Remeber too that I'm not all that bothered about gaming so I can take A G E S getting a single minature right, but I'm RUBBISH at getting whole units done. Swings and roundabouts.
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so it's been a little while since an update, no exciting reason other than I've been feeling knackered, and I couldn't be bothered.
Finally gave in to the urge to get some Scourges - I'm a sucker for anything with wings basically, and I'm surprised I lasted this long.
An addition with the tail - well, they're into genemods, so a tail isn't too much of a stretch. I also altered the angle of the spear arm as well, it just didn't seem to be in too natural a position otherwise.
I'm thinking very dark red for the suit and armour and a bright red for the wings and tail (and possibly for the skin on his face as well).
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Very cool! Looks like you suffer from the same lack of focus as me...lol. Although you are painting for painting's sake mostly I believe. Which is awesome.
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
I like the tail. Very good idea how'd ya make that? Because I may need to steal that idea.
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Post by: finnan
it's the agonisor with the extra tip carved off ; )
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basecoating and washing done this afternoon. I used blood red with some yellow ink mixed in over the whole model as the base, and then several washes of black over the armour. Just one wash of Leviathan purple over the wings, tail and face (can't tell too much difference between the purple and the black on one coat to be honest).
Judicious highlighting to be done with red on the armour, but I'm actually fairly happy as it is now! The flesh I want to highlight back up to a nice bright red : )
I also cobbled together another Corsair, but one that's another step towards Dark Eldar-hood, and Scourgifying. Makes sense to me that an Eldar who likes the Corsair side of things and the flying might be prompted to take further steps to getting wings of their own (... anyone else having flashbacks to Tyldak in ElfQuest? No? Just me then... )
enjoy
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Post by: Dysartes
I really like that Avatar, finnan - best of luck at Games Day.
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Post by: lipsdapips
They look awesome!
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Post by: Ysclyth
great scourge, armor looks really good
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a bit of for done on the imp-Scourge and the Corsair.
I need to brighten up the Imp a bit - although than might happen when I do the tubing (I'm thinking a nice, acid green) and the flight pods - perhaps a bright turquise for those, Also going to have to start thinking about what markings I want to put on his wings.
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
Awesome colors on the scourge. The red/orange wings are brilliantly shaded. I just noticed the armor on the tail. How did you make that? Just carve it off of an arm or something?
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I carved it off one of the wings... so I'm a wing down, but I'm one body down from making the Corsair, so it balances out.
thank you btw
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Post by: weetyskemian44
wow! - I want one o they scourges now - I just love that elf/devil combo - it has a delightful dichotomy to it.
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
I love that flying demon elf thing! Graceful and deadly! I'm excited to see waht you decide to do with the weapon colors. I really like how the armor turned out!
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Post by: SnakeByte
nice
at first I was a bit sceptical about the colors but they turned out quite nicely  you should go for some green-blueish color, but not too bright for contrast, but maybe acid green will also work
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
SnakeByte wrote:nice
at first I was a bit sceptical about the colors but they turned out quite nicely  you should go for some green-blueish color, but not too bright for contrast, but maybe acid green will also work
Since when have we ever needed to be skeptical about finnan's paint schemes? They always turn out amazing at the end! I agree though, that a nice blue color would look nice along with that orange/red, but that also might not be the theme you're going for... so whatever you finish it as, I'm sure it will be great!
I'm excited to start painting again once I finish moving next month. I really want to try out your technique you demonstrated ...  but until then I'll just have to keep living vicariously through you and other amazing modelers/painters! Thanks!
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Post by: Popsicle
Corsair looks fantastic! How was the orange done?
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Dude those are looking fan-fing-tastic!
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Post by: Krellnus
Awesome like always dude
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Post by: finnan
as ever, thank you all very much - your comments put a smile on my [generally grumpy] face : )
Popsicle: 1:2 Blazing orange:Golden yellow, followed by a Baal red wash, highlighted with 1:3 orange:yellow.
I need to go in with some Sunburst yellow now and do the final highlights.
check this out:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/364790.page
(step by step guide)
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Post by: hellrai3er
Really nice, may have to pinch your fire dragon ideas
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another fairly dreary week at work = slow progress in painting...
a bit of work done on the Imp yesterday. I've done the tubes in his wings, and started on the weaopns - I'm going to highlight the spurs and the spearhead, but I think I might make the spearshaft and pistol darker...
I also did some markings/tattoos on his wing... I know Japanese isn't precisely Dark Eldar, but it looks pretty cool.
Started on the flight pods - I'm going to make them a nice, clean blue/turquiose. Still not entirely sure aout the its of cloth... perhaps highlight up to yellow through orange
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Post by: Swordwind
I question your Japanese grammar, but what I don't question is your amazing painting skill.  Would love to see this finished, if only because I'm waiting patiently for more vanilla Eldar.
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lol you could question my Japanese grammar, if I had any! I'm fully aware that I'm probaly butchering the language, but I muddle along
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Imp done : )
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Post by: Igandris
That looks deliciously fiendish.  I'm looking forward to seeing more of them.
By the way I was meaning to ask, how did you paint the crystals on the shadow spectre?
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thank you : ) just waiting for more scourges to arrive, and then more Imps might be appearing lol
crystals: hawks turquoise, blue wash, and then highlight the ridges with Hawks + white
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
I love the finished Product Finnan, Once again another beautiful piece of work. Do you think you might throw that Imp into a painting contest cause it really is quite nice!
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Post by: taffiarti
Absolutely stunning. And thanks for putting that blending tutorial up a few posts ago. very helpful and great to see it in a step by step guide.
This guy reminds me of the villian from the new X-Men movie too (which is a good thing in my mind!)
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
taffiarti wrote:Absolutely stunning. And thanks for putting that blending tutorial up a few posts ago. very helpful and great to see it in a step by step guide.
This guy reminds me of the villian from the new X-Men movie too (which is a good thing in my mind!)
which villan do you speak of?
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I think his name was Azreal? Frustrating that I can't remember but he was like a red version of Nightcrawler
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well, as you know, I painted the Avatar for Golden Demon... I'm now getting cold feet somewhat about entering. My last plan was to enter a Scourge as well - I was thinking about doing one with white wings and possibly white armour to go for a whole contrast with the good/evil concepts, but again, I'm not so sure...
(part of me balks at paying however much a Games Day ticket is just to enter a competition, and another part of me is just afraid of failure)
I don't think I'd enter this Imp as there are things I'd change: it's a bit rough around the tail, and the face isn't defined enough. I think I'd try and wrap the tail around the body a bit more as well... but it's nice to get encouragement from others though
It'd be nice to do a diorama with an Imp-style Scourge and an angelic one (possibly fighting... ?) Automatically Appended Next Post: X-Men villain was Azazel - allegedly a mutant in the movie, possibly a demon in the comics, and Nightcrawler's father.
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
That was the villan I thought.
As for failure, you only truly fail if you never try at all...I can understand the game day ticket price, but you have 18 pages of people looking to your good work and asking for advice so as far as I am concerned you only will fail if you don't try in the first place...
We all seem to like it so maybe they will too : )
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sage advice : )
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I mean I did not watch you do every part of that Avatar for nothing, and I want to see you at least on the lineup
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thank you for the vote of confidence and support
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Post by: finnan
a couple more Corsairs - one I finished off today, and the other last wekk, but I didn't post; then the growing Corsair squad.
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Are the Corsairs in the Basic Eldar Codex? Also they are looking good, where do you get your rocks and terrain for the bases?
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Post by: Frostreaver
I absolutely love this blog, especially the eldar. looking at all your stuff makes me want to start up my own craftworld army.
I've got way too many on the go to do that...
I'm really impressed with your crisp colours and smooth shading.
Do you use a wet pallet or just multiple thinned layers?
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Post by: finnan
thank you very much
I generally go for multiple thinned layers, but I do go for wet blending now and again when I'm feeling lazy and want quicker reults.
Bases - I can't actually remember where I got them from now... I got them as a bundle, so 25mm x 2, 40mm x 1 and a 60mm... I'll try and search them out for you! (not Scibor, or Voodooworx, or MicroArt, or Secret Weapon) Automatically Appended Next Post: bases = Dark Art Minatures rocky bases
>phew< that was going to bug me all day otherwise!
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Post by: LunaHound
Woo the red scourge looks like nightcrawler's dad
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Post by: jirc
Man that red to orange blend on the corsair is amazing, really awe inspiring! Subscribed!!!
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
The scourge came out amazing. He does look like azezal. But cooler. I can't wait to try that with my next box of scourges.
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Post by: finnan
another Scourge on the go, this one is a bit of a test run - I want to see if I can do white armour (my goodness it's dull doing white!), and if it looks any good.
So: first leg done, and I'm semi-impressed! lol
I just undercoated with white, and then did a soft grey wash, and then back in with the white. I've done the toe-claws and faceplate Boltgun Metal, with a wash of black, and then a thin-ish coat of turquoise ink. I'm going to highlight back up to Mithril, so it won't look as blue when I'm done.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Wow, how many coats did you put back over the grey wash?? Cos that is smooth mofo!
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Post by: finnan
smooth mofo? You guys talking about me again? lol
don't know how many layers, but not as many as I thought I'd have to do... I'd hazard a guess at 10-20?
I think the trick with white (aside from the thin layers) is not to go too dark with the wash - it doesn't need to be all that dark to stand out, and the darker the wash, the harder it is to build back up to white.
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
That scourge turned out just as amazing as I was expecting. I was going to post that you absolutely had to make a white one as well (he could be a squad leader for the orange ones or something!) and then was happily surprised to already see you made progress on him! I think he'll look even more amazing than the red one. That leg as a sneak peek already looks great!
Also, your corsairs are such fantastic models. With that paintjob their wings literally look like they are vibrating with energy! That white separator line down your most recent one looks great as well! Top Notch as always Finnan!
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Post by: Lorna
If you wobndering if you should enter golden demon, then all the people I have shown your avatar to have been amazed by it. This includes a two golden demon finalists.
If I don't see this at games day then i'll be very dissapointed.
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Post by: nerdfest09
I'm Gobsmacked! have a look in the dictionary for a picture to define patience, Finnan's right there!
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Lorna wrote:If you wobndering if you should enter golden demon, then all the people I have shown your avatar to have been amazed by it. This includes a two golden demon finalists.
If I don't see this at games day then i'll be very dissapointed.
Hear Hear
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Post by: taffiarti
Great work as always.
You should definitely go to Games Day. I think it is a wonderful model and should be shown to the general public there. Even if you don't do as well as you hope the chances are you will inspire multiple people to give something else a go or try this that or the other. A bit like this blog actually. Well worth it mate.
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Post by: finnan
second leg (mostly) done.
For those of you who are interested, I timed how long it took to do: approximately from the start of Four Weddings & A Funeral to "So there you have it. Less than Madonna, more than Princess Di."
lol
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
I am liking the helm, What exact color is that?
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Post by: finnan
I did a coat of Boltgun Metal, then a wash of Badab, then a thin coat of Secret Weapon's Sapphire wash. I think you could get a similar colour by mixing Necron Abyss and Hawks Turquoise, then thinning it down lots
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Post by: Ghilksy
Wow, simply wow. I've just read all 19 pages of this blog and every update has lead my picking my jaw back up with my hands! i'll be robbing the techniques you use throughout your posts if you don't mind haha! love love love the blue Eldar at the very beginning, and the new corsairs your working on atm are phenomenal. Oh yeah one last thing, if i don't see your Avatar at games day I may just cry, it's amazing and it will come high in the rankings. Keep it up, definitely just got yourself a new subscriber on here
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Post by: finnan
@Ghilksy: thank you sounds rather pathetic after your kind words, but I do mean them - thank you : )
steal anything you'd like!
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Post by: finnan
so, armour pretty much done I think, and starting on all the other fiddly bits now. Not entirely sure about the metallic helm, but it looks pretty good in the shot, so maybe I'm being too picky.
I was originally thinking white wings as well, but thought it might just be to pale and flat, hence the dark wings - they're just based now, and I wouldn't say no to having them slighlty iridescent, like a magpie's wing, so I just need to figure out how to do that! Failing that, it'll just be a dark wash and then a good drybrushing.
No idea yet what to do with the weaopn...
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(Games Day ticket purchased as well btw, so expect to see some of the stuff in the blog there  )
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Post by: NakedBatBoy
I think I personally preferred the helmet originally when it was that darker cool blue. The wings being dark is probably a good idea though. The armor looks great by the way!
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Post by: finnan
yeah, not too sure about the helmet... an easy fix though, so I'll probably go back to the metallic blue
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
I have to agree with the metallic blue
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Post by: finnan
too bloody hot and sticky to paint here tonight - urgh. I know I'm not supposed to complain about nice weather, but I'm definitely a cold-weather lad...
had a look at Golden Demon categories today - I think I'll be entering the Avatar into 40k monsters (if I read it right... ), and maybe a Scourge into 40k single miniatures...
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
I am excited you got your tickets!!!
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Post by: Krellnus
Yes, I would not be surprised if your Avatar gets Gold
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Post by: Ghilksy
Looking forward to seeing them there!
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Post by: Havok210
finnan - I can not give you enough +1's on your painting skills. They make my jaw drop in awe and jealousy as my painting skills are nowhere near yours.
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Post by: finnan
thank you everyone
I think if I won Gold (even though in my head that seems wildly unlikely), I would be over the moon, and bursting with pride; I think it would be one of the best achievements (overshadowing both of my degrees! What does that say about my priorities?  ). I don't even want to dare to hope that I'd even be on the winner's stand. I'd honestly be chuffed with an honorable mention.
@Havok210 - thank you very much. As every, I feel very humbled and prvivaleged when I get praise like this. Thank you.
I guess it's a bit odd that I don't actually conside my painting skills that extraordinary... I suppose that's my insanity and inseurities talking! As I tell my students, it's all about the practice! I don't have any of my OLD old miniatures any more, but they were truly shocking, and it's taken a lot of trial and error for me to be able to do what I can... with my teacher hat on, I think it's that I understand the materials and what they can do, and I work within those limits. Plus I don't mind overly repetetive tasks! lol
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Post by: finnan
I have to admit that I kinda lost interest in this one, but it's done - I'm happy I can do the white armour, but everything else is just okay. Working on the next Scourge now, just for fun rather than a potential Golden Demon entry, just not in the mood to do any serious painting at the moment.
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Post by: Swordwind
And here I was thinking you were dead.
Liking the white. Mind if you post the recipe so I can steal for my Eldar?
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Post by: mekbadzappa
The white looks cool. The angel wings on a dark eldar seem out of place. The pose on top of the rock is very cool.
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Post by: finnan
@Swordwind - white undercoat, then a soft grey wash and then just use thin layers of white to get back up to flat white - takes a while so be patient!
(almost end of term, so with the amount of energy I have left, I may as well be dead! lol)
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Post by: finnan
next Scourge - going for a nice tarnished bronze for this one (and as I type this, I seem to recall a description of the Greek goddess Rumour: all brazen scales and claws... seems kinda appropriate... ).
Armour: 2:1 Bronze:Shining gold, a wash of Gryphs, then a wash of Devlan. A little judicious highlighting with Shining gold, and then in with some Secret Weapon Algae wash, then some Hawks turquoise as a wash, and then the Hawks with a little Scorpion Green mixed in.
The plan is to highlight a little with Shining gold, but to leave the tarnish in the creases and on some exposed areas. the soft part of the clothes I think I'm going to go with black, and then for the wings it's a toss up between the red I used on the other Imp, or something close to rotting flesh for an otherworldly feel... I think lol
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Post by: tipios
That is very nice.
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just done somehighlighting, and the tarnish is looking a bit too even, so I think I'll probably go in with some Hawks just to give it a little varation...
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Post by: tipios
Did you decide on the wing colour yet?
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Post by: finnan
no, not yet, I'll decide that when I get to it... but I think I'm leaning towards pale
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Post by: Foxtale
Wow, that metal looks fantastic. If only you were going to do an entire army in those colours.
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Post by: finnan
Armour done, I think. the sash is base coated and washed with Leviathan, so I'll do a little highlighting there.
(shots are a bit rubbish - a bit too dark, but you get the idea)
wings: I *think* I'm going to go for a dark grey skintone, highlighted to light pink over the membranes... kinda like the Moria troll from the LotR stuff... (now that I've typed that, I'm not so sure... ). For once, I'm not quite sure with my colour choices...
red = too obvious, and I've already done that. Would look good with the armour, but might be a bit too much.
orange = no
yellow - no!
green = I'm kinda tempted... an acidic, sharp green... but would that be too bright and cheery for a Scourge?
blue = I don't think so... (blue would be the easy way out, but I don't think it'd go too well)
purple = maybe?
black = too dark
grey into pink = still kinda considering it
white = too flat and light
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Post by: moonshine
Have you considered:
A bone or flesh colour ?
Teal ?
Brown ?
Or a very dark blue ?
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Post by: finnan
flesh I think might be too... ordinary, if that makes sense?
teal and blue... I do blues all the time, and I'd like to try something different... and he seems lke a warm colours kinda guy...
Brown - maybe... I kinda like the bronze and gold with the washes over it - maybe with another wash of devlan over it, and a lighter underside of the wing and some markings on it?
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Post by: moonshine
Perhaps dark brown wings with some dark red or white ends/details.
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Post by: dantay_xv
What about doing it in the Dark Eldar skin tones used in this months WD, pale fllesh with an almost purple bruised look to it, then a pale flesh colour to the wing membranes with freehanded purply blue veins running through it (or a hint of green/red to look like stimms pumping through the bloodstream).
My other idea was to do a spotted dappled effect on the wing membrane where it meets the arm, a bit like how majortom11 didi the head on his genestealer broolord on page 1 of his blog http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/284539.page
Another alternative is to pick a Tyranid hive fleet and paint the wing colours to match (as if a haemonculus grafted the wings to the scourge to give him/her the speed and agility of the donor nid monstrosity) If you have a friend with a Tyranid army, it could be a good way to taunt them. It would allow you to use th red/black-blue of behemoth or the fleshy coulours of Kraken or what ever.
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I was just thinking about Dark Eldar fleshtones! (in the shower, for that added level of unwanted detail! lol), with the dark grey on the topside of the wings. I like the idea of the veins too...
the markings on the broodlord were also exactly what I was thinking! Great minds think alike! I was looking everywhere for an example (I'm sure I've seen it done somewhere), but this is a good example of it - thank you : )
Also liking the hive fleet idea - more research to be done I think!
great suggestions
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Post by: Krellnus
Looks great like always and good to know that you are alive.
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Post by: finnan
it was touch and go or a little while there... two more weeks of term, and then I have the summer off - yey! Hopefully get some quality painting done : )
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Post by: Krellnus
TWO MORE WEEKS! Awwwww, I was hoping to see more awesome painting before MY break is over, you damn Brits, dumping us in some god-forsaken island AND expecting us to be content when stuff doesn't go our way? I am outraged
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Post by: finnan
I wish I was back on that god-forsaken isand than this one (grass is always greener)!
Let's see:
better weather
better food
more entertaining animals
way better accent
you'll probably see some more painting - I'll have to pace myself at work so I have some energy left to paint with in the evening
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Post by: Krellnus
But, with all the rain we have been getting recently, the rivers and drop bears took all our grass away!
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Post by: finnan
ahh, drop-bears. Despite my gullibility level being fairly high, I was never taken in by that one. Always amusing to see the faces of other international students upon hearing of the beasties though. Good times
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
Drop-pods were bad enought but when yu fill them with bears! Thats a whole new horror!
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Post by: finnan
first underside of the wing done, and I'm actually quite liking the result (unusual for me!). I'm following the (slightly counter-intuitive) GW guide to painting Dark Eldar skin, and it seems to be working so far... I wouldn't say no to putting a bit more purple along the wing fingers, but other than that I think it's done.
Also a little higlighting on the underside of the tail and the soles of the feet, but they'll be mostly grey.
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Post by: Cutthroatcure
I like the flesh tone look of that wing alot!
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Post by: Krellnus
Yeah, it is very epic indeed!
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Post by: finnan
thank you : )
I'll try and get the other one done tonight, and then it's the grey on the topsides. I'm thinking a nice bilious green for the flightods adn the tubing...
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Post by: tipios
Wow!!! Those wings have come out very nice!! Did you use just washes? I want to do a similar look, but in red, how would I do that?
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Post by: finnan
no, not washes, which is probably how I usually would have done it.
From memory:
basecoat of 1:1 Tallarn flesh and Spacewolves grey (odd combo - warmth of the Tallarn, then the cold blue/grey). Then same mix with same amount of Dark Flesh added in, thinned to a wash and applied (to be honest, this didn't really do too much, and if I were to do similar wings, I'd miss this step out).
After that I did a wash of Ogryn Flesh.
Then highlight with 1:1:1 Tallarn:Space Wolves: Skull White, then a further highlight with more white mixed in, and then a final highlight of pure Skull White.
As usual, I did my thinned-down + many layers technique.
As a last touch I dappled on some spots of skull white, just to give a bit of texture (and I'll be doing the same but with dark on the tops of the wings in a darker colour)
I like how it's come out - I think I might put a few light veins in there. They remind me of the skin of the head-honcho vampire in Blade II, sort transparent and papery... Automatically Appended Next Post: sorry - forgot about the red bit...
depends whether you want bright red, like the wings I did on my other Scourge, or pinker ones. If you were aiming for pink, I'd do a blood red basecoat, a wash of Baal, then a wash of Leviathan. Then I'd highlight with Blood red again, then just add more and more white to the mix - again, I'd use thin layers so that you can see the layers of colour through each other
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Post by: tipios
Thanks alot Finnan, much appreciated
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 you're more than welcome - happy to help
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Post by: Ysclyth
I'm really liking the wings so far!
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