No double-yellow lines. Good news as you won't be in danger of a parking fine.
Not sure about the bike bases tbh Seems a lot of keeping death off the roads by driving on the pavements.
The wheel (centre left bike base) looks like it may impede the placing of the bike but I guess it must be okay as they will have checked?
Nice quality though as expected from Microart.
The gate looks interesting.
Perfect for my city wall! want it in blue though, I'm not feeling the orange.
Going to wait for the walkways to be released and order both at the same time!
The energy gate is similar to a product idea I had a little while ago and posted in the s6 Engineering thread.
Hope someone makes those!
That's it... keep releasing great terrain...soon people will start building great gaming boards featuring infinity models and taking pictures...the trap is set...
They had me when they released those fluoro-plastic futuristic ads for infinity. Great stuff guys, keep it up!
I like how this new series of bases and terrain are actually and truly tied to Infinity by more than name alone. I see dropped Combi-Rifles and a destroyed Dronbot.
This model is delivered as a pack, unassembled and unpainted.
The parts of the model are designed to slot together in a way that allows for a quick and
easy assembly. It may be necessary to glue some parts of the model - use PVA (white) glue.
Every model is cut from one or more panels of HDF (high-density fiberboard) of 3mm thickness.
In the package you will find 4 boards.
Set contains of:
2 x high long platform
2 x small short platform
4 x sets of stairs
Length of the whole assembled set:aprox 85cm / 33,5 inch
Height of the highest platform:aprox 12cm / 5 inch
Platform width: aprox 5cm / 2 inch
Attention:
Before taking the elements out make sure they are fully cut. There are minor connections that prevent them from falling out.
MicroArt, if you're listening, could you please do some more sets of these? I dont fancy having to get 4 sets of stairs every time i want just a walkway.
Ie. Release an extension kit with just the long platforms please!
I bought some of their "AdMech" style stuff. Very quick shipping, no hassle. Casting is very nice and quality of the sculpts is great, top-notch in all aspects basically.
Not sure if its changed since i last bought, but the figures dont come in a blister, they come loose, which was a bit annoying.
yeah, I asked on their forum about having platform only sets of the walkway and they said that it was a good idea. maybe in the future? I think I'll be buying 3 sets of this, and buy more if they expand the range. Might be able to use the steps for something else?
Also I want a gate in blue plastic, but I think I need a wider gate. I've also requested these options on their Forum.
To order this week! 3/4 sets of platforms , both fur moulds and a maybe the gate? oh good times!
thanx Kroothawk for bringing these to my attention.
I love the radar dish itself, but the building is a little lacklustre, to be honest. The door doesn't look like it belongs with the rest of it (the top of it sticking up past the roof doesn't help there) and the catwalk serves no apparent purpose.
insaniak wrote:I love the radar dish itself, but the building is a little lacklustre, to be honest.
Lacklustre? Man, that makes me want to paint up some white space marines with black trim and have them fight a ragtag renegade guard force modeled in camo cloaks and supported by an allied force of GS'd short, furry aliens with stone-age weapons!
insaniak wrote:I love the radar dish itself, but the building is a little lacklustre, to be honest.
Lacklustre? Man, that makes me want to paint up some white space marines with black trim and have them fight a ragtag renegade guard force modeled in camo cloaks and supported by an allied force of GS'd short, furry aliens with stone-age weapons!
Oh my, those buildings are so nice. Infinity keeps getting more and more tempting. I wish I had the money to start up and get a table full of this stuff.
The guys at M.A.S. have the right idea with this terrain though, the lack of abundant terrain is what pushed me away from infinity in the first place. As much as I love being creative I just cannot make my own terrain -at least not to a high enough quality I would want to use it.
I am liking that new building great to see its multi level -ish.
I may get them when released but I am not too sold on the windows, too futuristic sci fi for my liking. I may tone them down a nothc for my current skirmish gaming.
I will make a Tau table soon. I don't play Tau but I've been collecting Tau looking 'fish food containers' for two years now! My fish must be bored of the same brand, I have lot of these tubs! But they alone arn't enough to make a board. So I'm wondering will these work as tau habitats?
The comment refers to the terrain in general rather than this specific product Ozy.
The cost of the walkways and stairs was imho overpriced given the materials and process used. I thought it would have been a tad cheaper.
iirc they were £20+ so it is reasonable to expect a similar cost for the buildings.
Others will think it good value and am not wanting to provoke that discussion.
I would use the walkways for Necromunda. Several walkways and sets of stairs would be needed so the cost becomes very prohibitive for me. I cannot justify dropping a ton on some terrain however pretty.
However, the target market is Infinity for which there is no real need for a lot of the sets and they become more viable. One ore two sets would be enough.
Given the slot together look of laser cut MDF I would not pay more than a tenner. For these prices plastic would be more detailed and Mini Art do some better sets for my needs.
1.) Micro Art makes some of the most affordable terrain, see all their resinfoam pieces.
2.) The building look sleek and modern SciFi, but Tau have those round tatooine like buildings, not square habitats.
I really like the power generator, but I admit I wish it was maybe 50% of the current size. (Then again, my game-of-choice is slightly smaller than 15mm...) The dish for the radar station is very cool, but the bunker doesn't do anything for me, unfortunately. it looks a little too thrown-together or something.
The only thing bad about the buildings is---it's not much different than cardstock given how flat the features are. It's made for Infinity---which looks to have sleeker edges than traditional (Read 40k) Sci Fi---so perhaps I'm just institutionalized. I'll quit typing now and hit Submit anyway.
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I saw many pieces of terrain from Micro Art Studio today. I was amazed by the quality of the HDF parts.
It is so clean, so easy... I´m really thinking about building an Infinity table with this kind of terrain. It is going to be very expensive, so I will be buying piece after piece veeeery slowly.
If they keep releasing good playable terrain like the radar station, I´ll buy it. The Catwalk stairs are a good idea for reaching the top of pieces like the housing module.
I like how the building looks, but, as terrain for playing I don´t find it comfortable for the player. Some miniatures would be impossible to grab.
Enough of bases Here are 4 new rubber moulds, all making customizing your terminators easier.
kacccper from Micro Art wrote:We're still trying to design a good looking chainmail mould. (...)
Also I want to say that due to the holiday season, we're not able to make immediately tutorials about this product line. But after the Summer I try to make my best to prepare for you photo tutorials: How to use our moulds in the most efficient way.
These moulds were prepared to enable easy customization of your miniature's shoulder pads and leg guards (especially for Terminator models). But you can use those ornaments on any surface.
The ornament surface on shoulder pad module is approx. 1,8cm[0,7"] x 1,28cm[0,5"]
The ornament surface on leg guards module is approx. 1,9cm[0,8"] x 1,6cm[0,6"]
Modeling compound not included.
Sweet Kroothawk, nice images thanks for posting, I like these a lot, paintjob could make these go form clean to worn or camo, inetersting. Begs for some minor additions and customizations IMO!
MightyGodzilla wrote:I love the Wraithstone bases they make. Very Eldar. I want more sizes tho. Those terrain pics posted by Kroothawk are looking good too.
They have 25mm, 40mm, and 60mm what other sizes do you need?
I have both 25mm and 60mm bases, they are very nice.
BobbaFett posted this over in the Infinity thread, found in the Micro Art forum:
ok, we have almost ready version of the building for you to see:
As you may see - we added several new things following your suggestions - the windows may be left as you see on the picture - armoured or may be taken out. The same thing applies to door. We tried hard to include the inner walls in the basic set but due to the large number of parts we were unable to fit them on 6 boards :/ They will be the first upgrade set - around 5-7 euro per set approx. We have to make them and check it yet.
An finally we know what the price of the building will be...
Due to the fact that this is a very large kit [6 HDF boards] the price is settled for 24 euro net. Unfortunately we have to add our VAT to it making it exactly 29,52 euro SRP. I hope that despite that the building will be quite popular.
MightyGodzilla wrote:I love the Wraithstone bases they make. Very Eldar. I want more sizes tho. Those terrain pics posted by Kroothawk are looking good too.
They have 25mm, 40mm, and 60mm what other sizes do you need?
I have both 25mm and 60mm bases, they are very nice.
I want the 120mm oval base for my flyers! Seriously tho, I'm ordering these bases. They're so hot.
You really have to look twice to see differences. Guess that's why the video starts with the statement, that "the inventor" is not "wanted" in any state, maybe that will change
Eisenhorn wrote:Same layout different pattern floor,different stantions
I think the guy who patened stairs has died over 5000 years ago,I think hes safe
I love how everyone hates on BTP... You can only do so much with "generic industrial Sci-Fi catwalks"... Lets be honest, they both kinda look like Pegasus Hobbies' Platformer Construction Set, which has been around longer than the other two...
H.B.M.C. wrote:So we’ve got the Foam Wars... will we now have the Wood Wars?
God I hope so
I need more internet drama in my life.
Also, in the end, the best product will win. Micro Art has got their rep behind their product, and it does look good, but will the BTP stuff be able to stand up in quality? It looks good, but I can't wait to put metal 40mm base on these bridges.
also, this seems highly appropriate in this situation:
the wooden templates are 6.90 for chimera and rhino shaped wrecks, and most other templates are 8.70 including some cool ones like defiler/soulgrinder, and stormravens.
They will also customize your template by adding vehicle bits to it, for more money of course.
Alfndrate wrote:Wow,
I love how everyone hates on BTP... You can only do so much with "generic industrial Sci-Fi catwalks"...
To be fair, the BTP one is an almost exact copy obviously done after buying and studying the Micro Art product. And you can see from the guilty face of the BTP "inventor" and the crime jokes at the beginning, that they are fully aware of that.
Will have to tread carefully and not rise to the bait then.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Wow this was my 7019th post As only 19 of them were actually of any use that makes this one the 7000th bit of nonsense!
Better get back on topic just in case it is also my last!
With regards BTP, that stuff is remarkably close to the Micro Art design. I'm often willing to believe in convergent evolution in work but in this case, nope, it's far too close.
For the record, I would suspect Shawn, the owner, was unaware as he's not often that clued in to the wider hobby (see: not knowing who made that manticore in the clip), but I suspect the guy showing off the design had been perusing the interwebs...
I will not stand for these ludicrous allegations that I am taking a lower platform on the BTP walkways. I think that we need to climb to the occasion and just enjoy the terrain.
While I do agree that BTP could've stepped up to the occasion to provide a product with more originality, I think those who are raising allegations of copying should tread carefully.
There can obviously be varying gradations of a similar product without stomping the toes of other designers and, while similarities abound, a similarity is nothing more than that.
Had the product been more of a theft, I'm certain MAS would instigate an ascent into legal ramifications without hesitating to go down that road.
Hopefully, either or both of the parties in the discussion will keep producing similar products of high quality and won't wait to create a product that is a companionway down the road.
You overestimate what MAS could legally do. BTP is in a different country with different copyright laws. Also, it's a bit complex in dealing with IP issues for stuff like this. Lastly, this is a small industry, it's likely MAS isn't a big company that can throw around lawyers, or lawyers overseas.
What's more, I see no significant improvements or difference between the blatant copy and the original.
In stuff like say, Android phones copying iPhones, the android phones always have significant differences in operation and usability. In this case, there's no reason to choose one or the other besides price.
I'd have more respect for BTP if they made improvements to the design, or did things the original didn't do at all.
But so far, all I'm seeing is that BTP blatantly copied, and probably infringed on some level of IP, all because they knew they could get away with it.
I guess it is just a matter of time when BTP release their own unique and original building.
-"Hello BTP fans, I am very excited because now we are going to release a new original piece form the minds of our talented artists. Behold!"
-"The brand new BTP Imperial building! Something never seen before in any battlefield, a must-have piece of uniqueness quality and top notch design. AnythiNg else from any humble Polish company it's just PATHETIC!!"
Vertrucio wrote:But so far, all I'm seeing is that BTP blatantly copied, and probably infringed on some level of IP, all because they knew they could get away with it.
You're assuming facts not in evidence. We don't know that BTP has entered into this business with any such intent. Has anyone even asked them for a comment? Or are you content at keelhauling Shawn and his business on flimsy supposition? I for one need grounds more relative than this.
For a legal case, I'd need more grounds. For a forum post? Not really.
And just take a look at the products, and the fact that they had to post a video.
Don't bother defending those who don't need defending here, sorry, it doesn't impress anyone.
GW knock offs or add-ons, for as much as I like the variety it adds, I don't feel any sympathy for them when they get sued when they don't bother to take the time to make their products different enough. Also, most of the time people do it because they know they can get away with it, and it makes them money.
And let's set aside legalities and talk about common decency. MAS isn't some giant corporate entity, they're a small European studio that produces some really nice things for our hobby. What if you had created some awesome miniature, part of a future line of miniatures that you think you could sell and turn into a great game for everyone. Then, after releasing your first miniature, within a week someone releases a glut of blatant copies, cutting into the money you could use to further the line. How would you feel? Don't you think it's a at least a little sleazy? Especially when you can look upon the copy and see nothing that differentiates between your product and his, besides maybe shoddier design and labor.
I will not be contacting BTP since I have no dog in this race and since my credibility on this site is nearly nonexistent to begin with.
As for your "it doesn't impress anyone", I'm sorry to say, that makes no sense whatsoever to me. Who am I trying to win favor from in your bizarre imaginings? I'm not even defending Blue Table Painting. I am merely pointing out the inconsistency and spurious reasoning of other posters. On a personal level, I couldn't care less about some Yankee painting studio.
I´m agree with Vertrucio.
But it's just common sense.
BTP seems like a very proffesional company, really popular, with deep commercial channels they reach lots of american gamers, good for them.
But they are copying MAS catwalks.
BTP is an american company that will sell more catwalks in the USA than MAS could sell in their wildest dreams.
But they are copying MAS catwalks.
BTP has artists that could make a lot of origjnal terrain pieces, or just paint MAS terrain pieces.
But they are copying MAS catwalks.
I suggest pestering them with messages to the effect of stating an intent to boycott. One would get a reaction out of them, I'm sure. Past that, I feel this is all hand-wringing. As mentioned, the case is very hard to prove to a legal standard and even more impossible to receive any kind of restitution from, so if one is outraged about the purported copyright violation, the kind of consumer action I mentioned above is one's only way to make the culprits suffer.
Or we can all argue about it all for another sixteen pages.
That said, BTP can actually go out and make something that's pretty similar to the MAS system, but it doesn't take much to give it their own flair beyond randomizing the pattern on the floor grates, which is kind of a chump way of differentiating their product.
Try having a more open system for side rails, with multiple types of rails in a pack so you can have more variation. Perhaps side walls that fully block line of sight. So many of these catwalk systems have open and exposed sides that are as much a deathtrap to use since the miniature elevates itself so more things can see it, but won't be getting any cover along the way.
If they did that, I wouldn't have any issues when them copying the idea, because honestly, there isn't much of an idea to copy.
Everyone kind of knows the concept of scifi catwalks, we've seen them on all the movies and TV shows, we have an idea of how they should look. MAS wasn't all that original in creating more scifi catwalks, just ones in MDF, but one look at what they put on market shows a really good artistic sense about how they did it.
Reap what you sow MAS.
How long have they and for that matter all the other Polish companies generated profit from GW's IP? Some of their scenic bases even incorporate parts from GW kits.
It's a bit rum for the unmentionables to be so excited about their 'new original' walkways, sounds familiar, lol. Suffice to say I will be picking up the MAS ones because they will definitely fit the rest of their infinity styled gear. I'm just hoping Maestrom games gets some in so that I can get my sticky fingers on it to see how much I need to get to fill out a board.
BobbaFett wrote:-"Hello BTP fans, I am very excited because now we are going to release a new original piece form the minds of our talented artists. Behold!" -"The brand new BTP Imperial building! Something never seen before in any battlefield..."
And here a Victorian stairway, buildings and a car they are working on. Currently they work on reducing the cost. The brick walls are resin bricks and wood frame.
Currently all wood lasering machines work hard to fill all the new orders, maybe they will buy an additional machine in the future to meet the higher demand. Until then new wood releases have to wait a bit.
Vitruvian XVII wrote:See that screams malifaux over warmachine to me.
I think you could push it either way depending on how you accessorize it. Take out the rocket cars (?) and add some gears and that would be all Warmachine.
For several reasons (including future attachments, the original building kit will sonn be redesigned to a form not compatible with the original one:
The important thing is - after much input about doing various things with the original Apartment 01 we'll be updating it's design. With the current one some options are to difficult to introduce so we'll be making changes in order for it to fit the new building and other things. It also means that it will not be compatible with the old one. Just a quick heads up.
(...)
The size of the building will stay the same. The most important change is the different roof/floor so the walls of the old buildings will not fit literary with the new roof. It will be always possible to put one building onto another This change make it harder to mix old parts with new one, but the look and fill of the design stay the same. Also the windows are a little bit higher, so you will get more cover out of it. We've also made it possible to have balcony on the right and the left side of the building. All this changes give as possibility to make new type of build.
(...)
New thing. There's going to be also some changes that will make taking off the floors easier.
The one big thing that will not be interchangeble are the floor/roof piece. All else should fit and finished buildings(both old and new) should fit together very well. Also with the new "L" design.
Will the interior walls work with the old buildings?
Absolutely!
Here the Sudio's own Infinity board:
Sad news. This prototype will not go into production, as resin is too expensive to produce. All future houses will probably be wooden (HDF). New houses and terrain will come in 2012.
Blue Table Painting Didn't design the catwalks it was a different company that sells the Catwalks. BTP Just paints them and sells them after they purchase them from that other company.
Vertrucio wrote:You overestimate what MAS could legally do. BTP is in a different country with different copyright laws. Also, it's a bit complex in dealing with IP issues for stuff like this. Lastly, this is a small industry, it's likely MAS isn't a big company that can throw around lawyers, or lawyers overseas.
What's more, I see no significant improvements or difference between the blatant copy and the original.
In stuff like say, Android phones copying iPhones, the android phones always have significant differences in operation and usability. In this case, there's no reason to choose one or the other besides price.
I'd have more respect for BTP if they made improvements to the design, or did things the original didn't do at all.
But so far, all I'm seeing is that BTP blatantly copied, and probably infringed on some level of IP, all because they knew they could get away with it.
Micro Art Studios wrote:As you may (or may not know) Micro Art Studio is a mutual property of Grzegorz Tomaszewski and Sebastian Makowski. Since in the last time they didn't get well with each other a decision to split the company has been made. Due to this fact by the end of June Micro Art Studio will be split into two separate companies.
The one ran by Sebastian Makowski will retain Micro Art Studio name, website, facebook account and license rights to Discworld, Infinity and Wolsung brands.
Eisenhorn wrote:Same layout different pattern floor,different stantions
I think the guy who patened stairs has died over 5000 years ago,I think hes safe
Exactly, theres only so many ways to do stairs, and its gonna have to be enough that the detail patterns are different.
They also rereleased some of their "missing" base lines with a new look earlier this month, specifically the Trash, Tech, and Desert lines, as well as brand new 40mm Dark Temple bases. Nothing really special about the new Desert bases, just that they're now slightly different than the Basicks ones. The Tech bases are a bit more distinct (insofar as any company's tech bases are distinct from any other one's), but the Trash bases have been significantly redone (and flattened, to the everlasting joy of my orks! ).
Looks like Basicks got a really bad deal from the split then! Not only do they loose half the merchandise, Micro arts just go and resculpt the old stuff anyway! Nonetheless, great stuff, some of the best bases out there.
Commander Cain wrote:Looks like Basicks got a really bad deal from the split then! Not only do they loose half the merchandise, Micro arts just go and resculpt the old stuff anyway! Nonetheless, great stuff, some of the best bases out there.
They just need to make some new things of their own. Like their own versions of the bases that Micro Art kept. Regardless, we get more options in basing, which is always a plus.
I've been seriously debating Micro Art's "Hills" that they produce. As far as I know they are hard foam like their other buildings, which while much more expensive, travels much better then homemade hills made of DOW board (the blue foam board-style insulation), and I usually travel to my friends house to game.
Welcome to Micro Art Studio’s Wolsung Steampunk Skirmish Game!
For the last two years we have been working on a skirmish game based on the world of Wolsung: „Steam Pulp Fantasy“ roleplaying game. We’re now just giving it some finishing touches and the game is ready to be enjoyed by gamers all around the world. Almost all of the miniatures are ready but we still need to print the Rulebooks and manufacture the laser-cut terrains.
Overview of the Game:
Wolsung SSG is set in the world which is similar to our world in the turn of nineteenth and twentieth century but filled with magic, steam-powered machines and fantastic creatures such as Elves and Dwarves. The game focuses on the city of Lyonesse – the Pearl amongst cities – and adventures of its residents - Extraordinary Ladies and Gentlemen. In the game, players control clubs made of a few such characterful personalities and their servants, to fight for fame and fortune.
Why do we need your contribution:
After the division of the company the Wolsung SSG project slowed down a bit, because we weren’t able to fund everything at once: beautiful graphics, minis, website, the layout of the rulebook and lasercut terrains. We expect that the money gathered on IndieGoGo will help us to speed up the production process – we would really like to have everything done for Essen Spiel 2012 – and let us work on the first big addition to Wolsung SSG – new clubs, new rules and even more fun!
What happens if we surpass our goal:
5000 dollars is enough for us to print the rulebooks and prepare the terrains, but we already have three new clubs which are almost ready to go, as well as the campaign rules and maybe (?) the rules for vehicles. That is a lot of content but we still lack the capacity to fund everything at once. That is why every dollar helps, and brings us closer to expanding the game and allow players to better explore the universe of countless possibilities and Extraordinary Ladies and Gentlemen – the world of Wolsung.
Guildsman wrote: How hard would it be to shave down the bottoms a few millimeters to put them at a standard height? MAS bases are gorgeous, but excessively tall.
I have had to do this before with bases, and IF you have a belt sander, its not a terrible task (makes sure to use a dust mask).
Guess we should keep all those "Wow 700 $ to the next stretch goal" and "still waiting for my package to arrive" posts out of a regular news thread and make this an extra thread. Okay?
The waste bins are too small for my taste - barely high enough to use as cover at all (unless mounted on a base of some sort) - they ought to be 50% bigger.
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