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Minecraft @ 2011/02/09 16:21:08


Post by: Melissia


Phototoxin wrote:How do you find the time to harvest all those rescources? i have dificulty finding even iron!
General first day strategy which should help you find iron or coal:

First day, get lots of wood. Turn wood into wooden planks. Use planks to make a crafting table, use crafting table to make sticks, then with that and more planks, a pick, shovel, axe, hoe, and sword. Dig up crafting table and take it with you to a cliffside. Use pick (on stone and gravel) and shovel (on dirt and sand) to create a cave. Place workbench again, and use it and the cobblestone gotten from mining stone to create a furnace. In the furnace, put a block of wood on top, and a block of wooden planks on the bottom to create charcoal, then a stick with the charcoal to make a torch. Make a lot of torches. Then as the world starts to get dark, cover up the entrance to your cave, and start mining, going down like a staircase into the cliffside, eventually using more wooden sticks and cobblestone to create stone tools so that you can harvest coal and iron. If you have sand, burn it in the furnace to make glass, so that you can see when it's daytime outside. If you have extra wooden planks, use six to make a door, but that can wait for the second day. IF you are intent on mining, create side passages occasionally, and keep creating more torches as you will need them to prevent monsters from spawning in your mine shafts.

And if you DO find iron or coal on the surface of the cliffside, DO NOT MINE IT UNTIL YOU HAVE AT LEAST STONE MATERIALS.

I found that out the hard way. And despite the extra time it takes, it's worth it to mine gravel instead of dig it up. You have a chance of getting flint, which you use for flint and steel (which sets things on fire-- do be careful with that) and arrows.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/09 18:25:55


Post by: Tyyr


You an dig gravel with a shovel and still get flint.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/09 20:55:24


Post by: Footsloggin


And you also shouldnt use a pick on gravel, a shovel is much faster and efficient (time-wise and resource wise).

Other than that, the staircase method works well, just make sure you stand ABOVE the layer you want to mine,
S= Stone
X= You
M= What you are mining

SS X
SSSS
SSSSMM

In the event you uncover lava, you will not fall in. If you do fall into lava, and do not have a bucket full of water, run up your stairs as far as you can, this way, when the fire burns you to death, your stuff will not be destroyed in the lava, but rather fly of your corpse for you to recover when you respawn.

Also, it will help to make a pillar or some other indicator for you to find your home in the event that you do die and cannot get home.



Minecraft @ 2011/02/09 21:05:16


Post by: Melissia


I mine like this:

A = Air
S = Stone/Dirt/Gravel
L = Target Layer

A A A A S S S S S
S A A A A S S S S
S S A A A A S S S
S S S A A A A S S
S S S S A A A A S
L L L L L L L L L L

The underlined A would be where I would stand when excavating the L layer, so that I don't get hit by water or lava.

Dunno, only having two layers (IE, exactly enough that you can fit in) feels claustrophobic.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/09 21:06:28


Post by: Tyyr


My own experience with mining.



The top view is looking down on the mind. The bottom view is a vertical slice through it.


This is the most optimized method of mining I can come up with. If you follow the pattern exactly it will offset the mine by one block horizontally each time giving you the best pattern I can devise. This method will have you examine either through mining it or just being able to visually look at it 89.81% of the total volume of the mine. The 10.19% you can't see is in one long tube. Since most ore will branch off in one direction or another that will likely bring part of the deposit into the area you expose allowing you to follow it back and get it all. In other words mining in this method will allow you to extract probably 95%+ of the ore in the area you are digging, all with only having to dig out 22.22% of the rock in the area to do it. Using this method I get a stack or more of iron an hour if I mine like a madman.

For navigation I only put torches on the right side of the tunnels. This means if I keep torches on the left side of me I am always heading back to the central chamber. Keep them on the right and I'll be heading deeper into the dig. I put up a torch about every ten meters which keeps the mobs out and when I drop the forth I stop in the tunnel and move to the next.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/09 21:09:17


Post by: Melissia


Mn, I really need to start using ladders when I mine...


Minecraft @ 2011/02/09 21:59:10


Post by: Tyyr


I just hate digging stairs and they make getting the next layer positioned just right kind of a pain. Ladders make it easier and quicker in my estimation.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/09 22:21:58


Post by: Lord-Loss


Thats one of the most effective way to mine diamond. You mine down to the first layer of bedrock and just dig like you've shown in that picture.

I prefer minning down to bedrock and creating one long, wide tunnel but thats cause it's fun, looks awesome and gets you lots of cobblestone.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/09 22:24:58


Post by: DA's Forever


Lord-Loss wrote:Thats one of the most effective way to mine diamond. You mine down to the first layer of bedrock and just dig like you've shown in that picture.

I prefer minning down to bedrock and creating one long, wide tunnel but thats cause it's fun, looks awesome and gets you lots of cobblestone.


+1 my mining procedure is simple, DIG BABY DIG! I go to bedrock then branch out randomly till lava or water cuts me off


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 01:14:32


Post by: Melissia


Finally got some redstone, so I went about making a tower fortress out of the MASSIVE amounts of cobblestone I have unearthed from all of my mining, and then made an iron door with a switch on the inside on the round level. If I can, I'm gonna extend this tower all the way to the bedrock.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 01:18:04


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Melissia wrote:Finally got some redstone, so I went about making a tower fortress out of the MASSIVE amounts of cobblestone I have unearthed from all of my mining, and then made an iron door with a switch on the inside on the round level. If I can, I'm gonna extend this tower all the way to the bedrock.


I made a castle from sea level to ceiling about 60 blocks wide and 80 long on the world that was recently deleted :(


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 01:21:04


Post by: Melissia


THat's pretty big compared to my 10x10 one....


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 01:23:00


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Melissia wrote:THat's pretty big compared to my 10x10 one....


It took bloody ages to lay, the damn clouds bisected the view every few minutes too :/

I have no idea how I managed to delete the world without even noticing though


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 01:36:53


Post by: DA's Forever


corpsesarefun wrote:
Melissia wrote:THat's pretty big compared to my 10x10 one....


It took bloody ages to lay, the damn clouds bisected the view every few minutes too :/

I have no idea how I managed to delete the world without even noticing though


HEROBRINE DID IT!


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Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 01:42:06


Post by: Corpsesarefun


DA's Forever wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:
Melissia wrote:THat's pretty big compared to my 10x10 one....


It took bloody ages to lay, the damn clouds bisected the view every few minutes too :/

I have no idea how I managed to delete the world without even noticing though


HEROBRINE DID IT!


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Nah Israphael did it


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 03:54:43


Post by: Melissia




A nighttime view of my fort. Forest fire caused by lava spawning above ground included. Yes, that had been burning that entire time.

I felt like having the top part be floating. Dunno, in games like this it's easy to act on a whim.


Minecraft @ 4040/02/10 05:46:30


Post by: SagesStone


It looks cool I guess, I made a rule for my burning forest which was to leave everything alone except if there were any blocks of wood floating which weren't on fire or part of a tree on fire.

Those blocks will probably burn almost indefinitely, free and cheap lighting. Forest fires are actually awesome for gathering resources. I've walked through mine a fair few times and picked up the drops left by the stupid tree hugging animals that decided the world was too good for them.


DA's Forever wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:
Melissia wrote:THat's pretty big compared to my 10x10 one....


It took bloody ages to lay, the damn clouds bisected the view every few minutes too :/

I have no idea how I managed to delete the world without even noticing though


HEROBRINE DID IT!


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Creepers did it.
He is in every shadow at the same time.


Always in the corner of your eye, but if you notice him that's when he strikes.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 05:50:50


Post by: DA's Forever





Nuff said


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 06:40:04


Post by: Tyyr


Ok, that's a bit messed up.

Quick little something for you. When you get way deep in your mine takes forever to move around right? Build yourself a base jump chute. I dug a perfectly straight vertical shaft one meter square from my castle to bedrock. I made a 3 deep pit at the bottom and filled it with water. I can jump from the top and fall all the way to the bottom and the 3 levels of water is enough to stop me without any damage. I can get to the bottom of my mine in second.

Haven't done anything about the trip up just yet though.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 06:59:43


Post by: SagesStone


Make it 2x3 have a waterfall running from the top. Now not only can you free fall safely you can jump in a boat at the bottom and ride it up to the surface.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 13:10:06


Post by: Melissia


n0t_u wrote:Those blocks will probably burn almost indefinitely
They were burning when I spawned, and they continued burning after I had mined to the bottom, then came back up and built my tower fortress.

As a side note, it's fun what you can do with fire. Using five stone blocks and a wooden plank block, you can make an eternally burning fireplace, useful if you don't have access to netherrack on that world.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 21:10:02


Post by: Footsloggin


Yes, I wish I could find myself some cacti though, it would be great to prevent spiders from getting in without having to make an overhang...


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 21:17:36


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Footsloggin wrote:Yes, I wish I could find myself some cacti though, it would be great to prevent spiders from getting in without having to make an overhang...


Cacti have to be placed with a sand block underneath them otherwise they wont go down, like sugarcane need dirt.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 21:27:26


Post by: Footsloggin


I have sand, I was placed on a beach with a ton of mountains surrounding me, and decided to build an underwater home until I found Diamond to make a small obsidian village, gather Netherrack, and make a castle using netherrack to surround it. Cacti could help as they would prevent the Spiders from scaling the walls. I have about 300 Sand right now, and made a sunroof to grow some grass while I was underground...


Minecraft @ 2011/02/10 21:31:49


Post by: johnscott10


DA's Forever wrote:


Nuff said


I ******* **** myself coz the volume was up >.< didnt expect that to happen lmao.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 04:22:44


Post by: DA's Forever


johnscott10 wrote:
DA's Forever wrote:


Nuff said


I ******* **** myself coz the volume was up >.< didnt expect that to happen lmao.


HEROBRINE takes another victim!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 05:17:00


Post by: Melissia


I must admit that got me too, and I was expecting it. It was well done.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 05:35:57


Post by: DA's Forever


Melissia wrote:I must admit that got me too, and I was expecting it. It was well done.


Same here when i first went to it i read the comments first and was waiting for it. Still got me though


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 13:25:44


Post by: Tyyr


Bored my mine down to the bedrock and I'm starting to expand it out wards. I'm going to keep working my way up but given the distribution of gold, diamonds, redstone, and lapis, I'm not going to bother going more than about 35 or so levels above the bedrock.

In fact I've reconsidered how I'm going to mine in general. I'll still follow the construction scheme I posted up above but I'll have two areas to mine. One area around sea level and just below where I'll mine out cobblestone, coal, and iron for construction and general use. Then a deep level where I'll mine for everything else. Between those I'm just going to ignore that 40 or so levels where there's nothing but iron and coal. I can get that with a lot less climbing. Figure I'll build a water jump for the upper mine level and a full on elevator for the lower levels.

I've started farming wheat and sugarcane for no real reason than just to do it. I can't believe the rate that sugarcane grows. It'll go from just planted to three levels high in a single day. Wheat's working pretty well too if a bit slower. Those little experiments are going to go from just starter plots built around lakes to truly irrigated subsurface farms here in short order.

I also want to build a mob farm and a tree farm. My TNT addiction needs to be fed and killing creepers by hand is time consuming. I love trees but hate deforesting the surface world.

In short I think I need to move bases. I want to try and start building a more realistic castle with actual curved surfaces that's more than just a surface fort. I like my starting area though and I really don't want to have to spend half an hour running home if I ever get killed. So I can either suck it up and head for somewhere less snowy and awesome or I'm going to have to indulge my earth moving habit and level/build up the hill I'm currently on so it can support a larger structure.

Who am I kidding, I love the terrain near where I am too much to move. Time to make 20 or so shovels and get to digging.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 14:05:08


Post by: legoburner


Tyyr wrote:In short I think I need to move bases. I want to try and start building a more realistic castle with actual curved surfaces that's more than just a surface fort. I like my starting area though and I really don't want to have to spend half an hour running home if I ever get killed. So I can either suck it up and head for somewhere less snowy and awesome or I'm going to have to indulge my earth moving habit and level/build up the hill I'm currently on so it can support a larger structure.


Spend some time learning how nether portals work and then build a safe webway out of cobblestone between them in the nether. Works very well for me to get from one side of the map to the other in moments as you travel at 16 times the speed. Certainly makes it feel a lot more like the warp to me. Also, real world time stands still while you travel through the nether too.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 14:40:21


Post by: Tyyr


Hmm, that's a good suggestion. Build a portal in my current base and then another at my new base location. Can I just build two in the real world or do I have to build one, enter the Nether, go to where I want to get to and then build the other one in the Nether?

If so I'm going to have to find diamond first. I can cast obsidian right now for the first portal but I've got no way to carry the mats for another portal with me.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 14:53:06


Post by: Ediin


I had to wipe my hard drive yesterday, so sadly I have'nt been playing MC for over 20 hours! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE??!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 15:57:01


Post by: Melissia


Tyyr wrote:Hmm, that's a good suggestion. Build a portal in my current base and then another at my new base location. Can I just build two in the real world or do I have to build one, enter the Nether, go to where I want to get to and then build the other one in the Nether?
Both ways work, but if there is no space in the nether to place the portal both portals will lead to the same portal in the nether, requiring that you build another one in the nether. So going into the nether and digging a tunnel with the proper amount of distance (distance in the nether is shorter than in reality) is the better option.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 16:03:30


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


Hurrah my new PC stuff has arrived, been fitted and works, I can play minecraft again.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 17:40:34


Post by: Melissia


From the top of a mountain to the bedrock, and I did not run into a single ore until I saw that redstone ore above me. I'm standing on bedrock.

Damn that mineshaft is long . Takes forever to get back up to the surface. Damn I have no life for digging it.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 18:17:21


Post by: Avatar 720


I've had similar problems before INVedit. All 5 of my worlds are the most devoid of anything bar dirt, sand, stone and coal that i've seen. I spent days when I first got the game hollowing out places and looking for natural caves.

I can tell you that i've had enough diamond over all 5 worlds to count on my fingers. Redstone has been relatively common lower down but i'm crap at circuitry. Iron has come in groups of 3 and I usually die just after I gather it and have creepers, zombies and skellies guarding my stuff when I return.

I just had the worst ore luck ever until I started using INVedit. Suddenly, everytime I find a cave it has about a stack of iron in it just on the walls in plain sight. It's like buses; they don't turn up when you need one, but when you don't they all come at the same time.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 18:21:44


Post by: Melissia


I've only found diamond once. JUST enough to make a pick. Then I died because a creeper knocked me into lava :(


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 20:20:54


Post by: stompydakka


D'oh!
how many worlds have you done?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 20:29:26


Post by: Melissia


So far, about a dozen, but I usually delete them if I die. Dunno, it's just so frustrating to die in this game.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 20:45:13


Post by: Footsloggin


It is, not so much if you get killed by a monster, as you can go back and reclaim your items. But if you're killed by lava, it's over, everything is GONE!!!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/11 21:56:03


Post by: Melissia


Yay, I found my first dungeon! The sound of a thousand screaming spiders gave it away more than anything, but it was confirmed when I found a block of mossy cobblestone. So, now I have to figure out how I want to clear out this dungeon and claim its prize. Ho hum. And the sad thing is I already used up the three diamond I found on a pick, because I'm tired of replacing my iron and stone ones.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 06:59:47


Post by: SagesStone


Make it into a trap to farm the drops. Also build an elevator in that mine shaft.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 13:15:58


Post by: Melissia


I was trying to use the lava I found around the place to create a magma moat (dropping magma source blocks down the side of my castle at occasional intervals), and somehow I fell about twenty five blocks down into my moat, killing me and destroying all my stuff :(


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 13:19:30


Post by: SagesStone


Hold shift while walking along an edge, stops you from falling and you can go off the side a bit.

Always sucks when all your stuff is gone, you don't even have the fun of running past the other two creepers to get to the crater with your stuff in it. I guess keep spares in chests instead of walking around with all of it or something.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 13:20:54


Post by: Melissia


I didn't actually find enough diamond to have spares is the sad part.


Also, anyone else use lava and water source blocks to farm extra cobblestone, or is that just me being a loser?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 13:26:01


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Melissia wrote:I didn't actually find enough diamond to have spares is the sad part.


Also, anyone else use lava and water source blocks to farm extra cobblestone, or is that just me being a loser?


I use lava source blocks and water to farm obsidian... I normally have too much cobblestone.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 13:45:54


Post by: Melissia


Yeah, that's how I made my first portal. IT was easier to get lava source blocks and water (from an infinite spring) than it was to actually try to mine obsidian.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 14:01:26


Post by: SagesStone


I actually have a picture of my cobblestone "farm" back on page 7 (with the rest of the base on page 3) so you're not the only one with one.

They're useful for when I don't feel like getting lost underground for a while, but so much slower.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 17:37:35


Post by: Tyyr


Given the shear volume of cobblestone I generate when mining a cobblestone generator just looks like way more trouble than its worth.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 17:45:10


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Tyyr wrote:Given the shear volume of cobblestone I generate when mining a cobblestone generator just looks like way more trouble than its worth.


Exactly, I'm a dwarf in that almost all of my homes are deep underground or are in hollowed out mountains so I have too much cobblestone.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 19:10:06


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


I'm an above ground builder (mostly) so I do tend to have a cobblestone generator for emergency use. I don't really need them that often though as I'm very much a hole digger.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 19:18:08


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Although on modes other than peaceful I become an elf and build almost exclusively in tree's due to a horrible incident involving a creeper spawning IN MY WALLS :(


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 19:26:30


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


Some one didn't use enough torches.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 19:31:18


Post by: Devastator


i once had 6 creepers spawn in my mine :(
altougth i seem to spawn inside some random blocks.....


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 19:32:02


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Nick Ellingworth wrote:Some one didn't use enough torches.


It was well lit :( One of my tunnels apparently had a tiny cave behind one of its walls that a creeper spawned in.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 19:44:22


Post by: DA's Forever


corpsesarefun wrote:
Nick Ellingworth wrote:Some one didn't use enough torches.


It was well lit :( One of my tunnels apparently had a tiny cave behind one of its walls that a creeper spawned in.


Plus an update made it to where you required more light than you did need. Went in mine horde of zombies!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 21:08:42


Post by: Avatar 720


I hated that update (you needed more torches the further underground you went), and just sat in my little 2 story house that was also a tree and wheat farm and went insane due to my house being surrounded by creepers, zombies, skellies and spiders (before they could climb walls) so I couldn't leave, and my house being built on top of a creeper and skellie infested tunnel system.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 21:18:58


Post by: DA's Forever


Avatar 720 wrote:I hated that update (you needed more torches the further underground you went), and just sat in my little 2 story house that was also a tree and wheat farm and went insane due to my house being surrounded by creepers, zombies, skellies and spiders (before they could climb walls) so I couldn't leave, and my house being built on top of a creeper and skellie infested tunnel system.


Same here essentially. I think people thought Notch lost his mind with that update


Minecraft @ 2011/02/12 23:05:28


Post by: Melkhiordarkblade


Well if you press f3 it shows your co-ordinants,with Y for height(depth)

Between 0-32 is where you find gold,diamond is a little closer to the teens region.
I found 9 diamonds and a good few Gold
I made the gold into blocks,so I can start building my own "GOLDEN THRONE". But really apart from a clock,gold is only good for that.

I play on peaceful in my main world,since all I want is just to build a nice little town.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 01:49:10


Post by: DA's Forever


Melkhiordarkblade wrote:Well if you press f3 it shows your co-ordinants,with Y for height(depth)

Between 0-32 is where you find gold,diamond is a little closer to the teens region.
I found 9 diamonds and a good few Gold
I made the gold into blocks,so I can start building my own "GOLDEN THRONE". But really apart from a clock,gold is only good for that.

I play on peaceful in my main world,since all I want is just to build a nice little town.


Imma build the webway beneath my world.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 02:43:47


Post by: Footsloggin


DA's Forever wrote:
Melkhiordarkblade wrote:Well if you press f3 it shows your co-ordinants,with Y for height(depth)

Between 0-32 is where you find gold,diamond is a little closer to the teens region.
I found 9 diamonds and a good few Gold
I made the gold into blocks,so I can start building my own "GOLDEN THRONE". But really apart from a clock,gold is only good for that.

I play on peaceful in my main world,since all I want is just to build a nice little town.


Imma build the webway beneath my world.


Fortress Monastery!!!

Anyway, Diamond is found MOST COMMONLY (I think) in the 10-16 region, at least I've found 20 of it now after, strip mining for 3 hours.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:03:38


Post by: DA's Forever


Footsloggin wrote:
DA's Forever wrote:
Melkhiordarkblade wrote:Well if you press f3 it shows your co-ordinants,with Y for height(depth)

Between 0-32 is where you find gold,diamond is a little closer to the teens region.
I found 9 diamonds and a good few Gold
I made the gold into blocks,so I can start building my own "GOLDEN THRONE". But really apart from a clock,gold is only good for that.

I play on peaceful in my main world,since all I want is just to build a nice little town.


Imma build the webway beneath my world.


Fortress Monastery!!!

Anyway, Diamond is found MOST COMMONLY (I think) in the 10-16 region, at least I've found 20 of it now after, strip mining for 3 hours.


Nether=Webway. Now a golden throne to control it and to build the Emperor


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:04:59


Post by: Footsloggin


A caged skeleton for the Emperor!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:07:46


Post by: DA's Forever


But it'll move around to much!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:21:54


Post by: Footsloggin


Well, you could just put a bunch of bones in the chair! But even those bob up and down...


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:24:12


Post by: SagesStone


They also vanish after a while. I think I'm going to got experiment using a zombie spawner to see if we can get a design going for it. It would be kind of enclosed like the venerable dreadnoughts are to stop it from escaping. It would also hurt you if you got too close. But, unlike the skeleton it wouldn't be launching arrows at you every time you enter the room.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:38:55


Post by: Melissia


DA's Forever wrote:
Melkhiordarkblade wrote:Well if you press f3 it shows your co-ordinants,with Y for height(depth)

Between 0-32 is where you find gold,diamond is a little closer to the teens region.
I found 9 diamonds and a good few Gold
I made the gold into blocks,so I can start building my own "GOLDEN THRONE". But really apart from a clock,gold is only good for that.

I play on peaceful in my main world,since all I want is just to build a nice little town.


Imma build the webway beneath my world.
I already did in my invedit file. One portal at the top of the world in a fortress with a lava moat, tons of torches, and a system of iron doors to keep out the mobs, one directly below it at the bottom of the world in a cave protected by cobblestone walls and iron doors at various locations, and then about half a dozen scattered around the world where I honestly have no damn clue where they are in the world as opposed to the nether (they're apparently far enough away that I cannot see my flaming fortress of doom from the ground where the portals exit). Before I got bored and went back to my non-invedit file, these six were dedicated to cactus farming, sugar cane farming, wheat farming, tree farming, a dock next to a massive ocean, and the final one was blcoked off because the portal spawned right next to a creeper dungeon which I opened up and then ran the feth away upon figuring out what was in there.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:47:34


Post by: Footsloggin


A creeper dungeon?!?! Holy crap, I wouldn't even dare to open that chest, I'd just run.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:49:50


Post by: Melissia


right, I really had no intention of letting several creepers explode on me at once after I heard that hissing noise when I broke open the first block of mossy cobblestone.

It might not have been a creeper dungeon, there might have just been two creepers creeping in from a connected cave or something. I don't know, lol.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:53:39


Post by: SagesStone


Awesome a Creeper dungeon. Set it on peaceful and replace the walls with glass after looting it. Then you can sit back and watch them wander around harmlessly.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 03:59:04


Post by: Melissia


Actually... if I run into a creeper dungeon in my normal file, I will try and use it to farm for sulfur so that I can make more TNT. Using water currents I can drag them into an underground cave where they drown. A glowstone would be useful, if I manage to get enough obsidian in my main file to make a portal...


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 04:02:32


Post by: Footsloggin


That's what I would do, Set up an obsidian pillbox and shoot them with arrows. Or flood the room with water, with a drain which allows the sulfer into a drop-box.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 04:06:05


Post by: Melissia


Well, what I had in mind was something like a smaller version of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlxa1Jks7fE


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 07:15:07


Post by: Tyyr


The majority of what I've done so far:



There's my spawn point up in the northeast. Built a small shelter there stocked with tools, armor, weapons, and some basic supplies if I get offed.

That's my main fortress in the center that's getting expanded. The basis of it is a 64 x 64 outer wall with towers at the four corners. The walls are going up five meters over ground level on the hill and are three meters thick. The problem I'm running into is I don't have enough fill material for the walls because I insist on building them old style. You can't see it but I've got a mine to bedrock under the fortress as well as a ~150 tree farm. I still want to build a mob farm at some point so I can get some sulphur for making TNT.

My secondary fort down in the southwest. Built that one mostly out of wood just for looks.

I want to go exploring more but if I do it I'll be doing it without taking anything I can't afford to lose.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 12:26:50


Post by: dogma


How do you take that top-down image?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 12:54:52


Post by: Mr Meatballs


Who lives in a tree house above sea level?
MR MEATBALLS DOES!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 13:30:22


Post by: SagesStone


Best intro to this thread ever.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 13:52:40


Post by: Melissia


dogma wrote:How do you take that top-down image?
Yeah, I'd like to know that too. I'd like to take one of my own place occasioanlly so that I can get a better view of it.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 14:00:54


Post by: legoburner


It is done with cartograph - I linked to it a few posts back.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 14:49:25


Post by: SagesStone


Just got that map program to work.
Spawn is that tiny patch of sand under the base with torches on it.

Small grey block on the left is the farm I've been working on lately.
Top right of the grey mass which is my base is where the Creeper statue was, which has been replaced by a much more fun Creeper rollercoaster. You can kind of make out the Creeper face you drop into (It goes up almost to cloud level then drops you, then you fall into the creepers mouth and about 40-50ish blocks underground before landing and continuing).

The burning forest is bigger than everything I've built. It's all those little orange dots to the right.
Bar on the bottom left is a bridge I've been working on with boosters to provide an endless ride, but slightly differently to the way I usually do boosters.

The boosters on it go kind of like this.

E=========3

So two carts move the entire track side by side and at the end they both get turned around in opposite directions before rejoining each other and continuing. It can be stopped anytime by throwing something in front of one of the carts with q, but they start back up automatically if I remove the obsticle getting rid of the annoyance of pigs/chickens making me walk for ages to the next booster and ruining the ride.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 15:00:16


Post by: Melissia


Hrm, I need to get some soul sand. That way I can make a one-way entrance to my bases and use minecarts to go between the various bases/buildings.


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Also, there doesn't seem to be a texture for glowstone in the Cartographer?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 20:59:04


Post by: DA's Forever


n0t_u wrote:
Top right of the grey mass which is my base is where the Creeper statue was, which has been replaced by a much more fun Creeper rollercoaster. You can kind of make out the Creeper face you drop into (It goes up almost to cloud level then drops you, then you fall into the creepers mouth and about 40-50ish blocks underground before landing and continuing).


Me Want Rollercoaster! Wants! WANTS!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 21:09:05


Post by: Wolf


Just reading through this thread is making me want to try out mine craft... Dang temptation !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 21:11:59


Post by: DA's Forever


Wolf wrote:Just reading through this thread is making me want to try out mine craft... Dang temptation !


Its worth every cent in my opinion.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 22:12:57


Post by: Melissia


A creeper destroyed the front wall of my primary mine entrance while I was trying to replace its dirt with a few layers of cobblestone :( He just snuck up on me in the middle of hte day...

Ah well, it's only six pieces of wood. The damage he did to my sugar farm is more annoying.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 23:11:36


Post by: Wolf


So as temptation ever knaws at me, I though I'd ask for some basic starting info before I cave in and buy it So whats what in the world of minecraft.
How do you craft your first basic items actually is a good starting point


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 23:24:55


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Wolf wrote:So as temptation ever knaws at me, I though I'd ask for some basic starting info before I cave in and buy it So whats what in the world of minecraft.
How do you craft your first basic items actually is a good starting point


run up to a tree and punch it to get a log, press i to open your inventory and place the wood into the crafting square in the top right hand corner then take the wooden planks from the box next to the square before placing the 4 planks back into the square to fill it up to make a crafting table with which you can produce more complicated items thanks to its 3 by 3 crafting grid.

To make a pick you first make some sticks by placing one wood plank block in a space in the crafting square and another in the space directly above it. After you have made sticks place one in the bottom middle square of the crafting tables grid, one stick in the centre middle and a wood plank in each of the top squares.
http://www.minecraftcrafting.org/


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 23:30:43


Post by: Phototoxin


I think co-op is the way forward for mine craft... its a bit pointless if you cheat... but there's no real objective otherwise..


Minecraft @ 2011/02/13 23:54:12


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Phototoxin wrote:I think co-op is the way forward for mine craft... its a bit pointless if you cheat... but there's no real objective otherwise..


The objective is to build things, if you can't understand this then minecraft probably isn't for you.

I have to agree that multi-player is great fun though.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 00:26:08


Post by: DA's Forever


corpsesarefun wrote:
Phototoxin wrote:I think co-op is the way forward for mine craft... its a bit pointless if you cheat... but there's no real objective otherwise..


The objective is to build things, if you can't understand this then minecraft probably isn't for you.

I have to agree that multi-player is great fun though.


Except for when you get heads.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 01:07:34


Post by: Footsloggin


corpsesarefun wrote:
Phototoxin wrote:I think co-op is the way forward for mine craft... its a bit pointless if you cheat... but there's no real objective otherwise..


The objective is to build things, if you can't understand this then minecraft probably isn't for you.

I have to agree that multi-player is great fun though.


My objective is to dig out the entire bottom of the map, so that if you mine down one square you fall to your death?! Building, *Pfft* that's overated

Hmm... Any new updates to be expected anytime soon?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 01:10:15


Post by: Chowderhead


DA's Forever wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:
Phototoxin wrote:I think co-op is the way forward for mine craft... its a bit pointless if you cheat... but there's no real objective otherwise..


The objective is to build things, if you can't understand this then minecraft probably isn't for you.

I have to agree that multi-player is great fun though.


Except for when you get heads.


"What do you mean you filled my floating island with dynamite and creepers?"
*Presses button*
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 01:18:58


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I rather slyly build a giant gold creeper filled with TNT accompanied by a sign saying "SSSSSSS" on a friends server that he left on overnight

The next day he came on and we were going about business as usual when I snuck off to the top of it and told him to come look at what I found, his screams over the mic as I detonated several stacks of TNT were delightful.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 01:25:55


Post by: Wolf


Haha Oh my I've started watching those tutorial videos, The temptation is unbareable !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 01:27:01


Post by: Melissia


I so want to try out multiplayer, but that will have to wait until after I've gotten enough money to purchase Homefront, then further later from that, when I've gotten enough money to also purchase Minecraft.


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chowderhead13 wrote:
DA's Forever wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:
Phototoxin wrote:I think co-op is the way forward for mine craft... its a bit pointless if you cheat... but there's no real objective otherwise..


The objective is to build things, if you can't understand this then minecraft probably isn't for you.

I have to agree that multi-player is great fun though.


Except for when you get heads.


"What do you mean you filled my floating island with dynamite and creepers?"
*Presses button*
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
You think that's bad. There was an admin who had everyone who died or logged in suddenly spawn on an island made of a "cup" of obsidian. Then used a command to create a layer of lava above them, slowly falling down onto them. It was hilarious in hindsight.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 02:35:26


Post by: SagesStone


Footsloggin wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:
Phototoxin wrote:I think co-op is the way forward for mine craft... its a bit pointless if you cheat... but there's no real objective otherwise..


The objective is to build things, if you can't understand this then minecraft probably isn't for you.

I have to agree that multi-player is great fun though.


My objective is to dig out the entire bottom of the map, so that if you mine down one square you fall to your death?! Building, *Pfft* that's overated

Hmm... Any new updates to be expected anytime soon?


No idea for the updates but have fun digging out the entire bottom of the world. I think it was said that each world is 8 times the size of Earth and would take 13 years to walk from the center to the edge. Finding that out saved me a bunch of trouble while exploring.

DA's Forever wrote:
n0t_u wrote:
Top right of the grey mass which is my base is where the Creeper statue was, which has been replaced by a much more fun Creeper rollercoaster. You can kind of make out the Creeper face you drop into (It goes up almost to cloud level then drops you, then you fall into the creepers mouth and about 40-50ish blocks underground before landing and continuing).


Me Want Rollercoaster! Wants! WANTS!


I'll take some screenshots next time I play then. They are a fun way of practicing how to be make boosters.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 05:43:14


Post by: Tyyr


So, any chance of a Dakka SMP server?

My castle progresses.



The old central keep will be getting bulldozed once I have the walls completely spider proof, still need three of the four towers to get their projecting wall and crenelations. Once that's done I level the original fort and start on a new one.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 06:24:54


Post by: DA's Forever


Tyyr wrote:So, any chance of a Dakka SMP server?

My castle progresses.



The old central keep will be getting bulldozed once I have the walls completely spider proof, still need three of the four towers to get their projecting wall and crenelations. Once that's done I level the original fort and start on a new one.


I feel like your constructing the Imperial Palace. I demand an Eternity Gate be implemented!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 08:05:39


Post by: SagesStone


A Dakka SMP would be cool. I'd run it but I don't have a strong enough pc.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 08:16:09


Post by: Phototoxin


I get that the point is to build things. It's just when people say 'I built a tower of TNT' did you actually mine all the sand and kill all the creepers to get the sulphur or did you invedit to get it? I guess it could be fun with cheats but having had to dig out the stuff makes it more rewarding.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 08:19:20


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


n0t_u wrote:A Dakka SMP would be cool. I'd run it but I don't have a strong enough pc.


Ditto, plus my net connection would probably throw a wobbly.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 08:20:29


Post by: SagesStone


Phototoxin wrote:I get that the point is to build things. It's just when people say 'I built a tower of TNT' did you actually mine all the sand and kill all the creepers to get the sulphur or did you invedit to get it? I guess it could be fun with cheats but having had to dig out the stuff makes it more rewarding.


Doing random crap like that I'd say Invedit. No sane person would gather the 20k TNT to create a castle of the stuff legitimately.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 09:33:47


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Phototoxin wrote:I get that the point is to build things. It's just when people say 'I built a tower of TNT' did you actually mine all the sand and kill all the creepers to get the sulphur or did you invedit to get it? I guess it could be fun with cheats but having had to dig out the stuff makes it more rewarding.


Minecraft much more fun when you play it without cheats, the exception to this is TNT.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 09:51:52


Post by: Avatar 720


I can't play without INVedit; it's what has allowed me to build my stuff. Complete lack of anything other than dirt, coal, sand, gravel and cobblestone really restricts your building.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 11:43:32


Post by: Mr Meatballs


Treehouse now has lava fountain.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 11:49:07


Post by: SagesStone


You made sure it was a decent amount away from wood/leaves right? Otherwise goodbye treehouse.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 11:51:31


Post by: Mr Meatballs


n0t_u wrote:You made sure it was a decent amount away from wood/leaves right? Otherwise goodbye treehouse.

oh shi-


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 12:43:56


Post by: Tyyr


Avatar 720 wrote:I can't play without INVedit; it's what has allowed me to build my stuff. Complete lack of anything other than dirt, coal, sand, gravel and cobblestone really restricts your building.

The castle I've built is so far nothing but sand, dirt, and cobblestone. How are you not able to find anything else?

For TNT legally build a mob farm. You're not going to get 20,000 TNT any time soon to build your fortress but it can give you enough sulfur to play around with.

I've shied away from SMP so far for lack of anyone I know to play with. I'm not really interested in playing on an open server and having to deal with griefers.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 12:51:13


Post by: Mr Meatballs


I've also got a golden throne as a side project


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 12:51:39


Post by: SagesStone


Try exploring some naturally forming caves if you have difficulty finding resources while mining. They'll usually have more at the cost of the safety of creating your own mine. After that all you need is patience.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 12:56:22


Post by: Avatar 720


The castle I've built is so far nothing but sand, dirt, and cobblestone. How are you not able to find anything else?


Because it seems that I have to excavate huge landmasses to find anything. Natural caves are stuffed with mobs and require large-scale excavation themselves to yield anything more than a few blocks of iron and lots of coal.

Mossy cobblestone is rare and there isn't enough of it to be of much use, gold is pointless unless you can make blocks, and that takes loads, i've had enough diamond over 5 worlds to count on my fingers, iron seems to be strangely rare on all my worlds. The only other thing I find a lot of is redstone, but i'm useless with circuitry.

Also, it's one thing to make a castle out of sand, dirt and cobblestone, but it's another to make it and like it. Most of my structures are smooth stone, mossy cobblestone, iron and obsidian; iron is particularly nice and the amount i've used thus far has been about 20x the amount i've found naturally over all my worlds.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 13:32:55


Post by: Tyyr


You shouldn't have any trouble finding iron and so long as you're willing to haul lava up a bucket at a time it's not hard to get obsidian. The key is to mine where the materials actually are and when it comes to obsidian, diamond, and such that's withing 20 to 30 levels of bedrock. A couple pages back I posted my optimal mining pattern. Following that I've churned out a ton of materials. I've racked up 30 diamonds in the course of about two hours of bedrock level mining.

The thing is most of what you're posting up is not stuff you can really use for mass building.

Mossy cobblestone is limited to dungeons and in the grand scale of construction the amount you get out of a dungeon ain't all that much. I've been playing this game for a couple weeks and have never even found a dungeon. Iron takes 9 ingots to make a single block. Obsidian requires either getting lucky underground and finding a place where lava and water meet or making it yourself. At fifteen seconds with a diamond pickaxe to mine I think it's safe to say you were never intended to get your hands on mass amounts of the stuff.

You're essentially saying you want to either build your structures out of some of the rarest materials in the game or the most labor intensive.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 13:50:19


Post by: Avatar 720


You're essentially saying you want to either build your structures out of some of the rarest materials in the game or the most labor intensive.


You could look at it that way, or you could look at it this way; I want to build my structures out of the materials that appeal to me.

Both statements are true, however one of them portrays me in a negative way due to its wording.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 14:13:21


Post by: Tyyr


It's negative if you want to take it that way. The assertion is 100% accurate. The only super rare material you haven't expressed an interest in is clay. So you're left with either just accepting the rarity and going looking for it anyways or Invedit.

I agree that things like smoothstone, obsidian, iron blocks, etc. are all great looking building materials. Believe me, the first dungeon I actually find is being ripped apart for the mats because I want that mossy cobblestone to make ivy covered walls for my castle. That said I think the rarity makes the things you do assemble out of them the most interesting. If you go into my cobblestone castle but then see my cast in place obsidian throne or my diamond bathtub or a golden chandalier I think it's more impressive because of the time and effort required to get your hands on the stuff to make it. Sure, an entirely obsidian castle does sound kind of cool but when you start making entire buildings out of it loses some of its luster.

Now if you want a negative comment if you going to just Invedit yourself to happiness save yourself the $20 and just go play Classic. There's no point in paying for the game if you're not going to play half of it.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 14:55:42


Post by: SagesStone


Wait clay is rare? I never came across any before the Beta, but I've been tripping over the stuff lately.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 14:57:43


Post by: Mr Meatballs


Well, treehouse fire is out. for now.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 15:08:49


Post by: Tyyr


Nice thing about Cartographer is that it also spits out info on how many resources you have. I think that in the total area I've explored there are just about 9,400 diamonds. There's 1,900 clay.

Now when I find clay I find a lot, but I've only found it twice. I've got enough to make enough bricks to build an outhouse and that's about it.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 15:18:01


Post by: SagesStone


Exploring at the moment as I need some cacti. So I decided to walk through the huge forest nearby as the other direction is the ocean. Half an hour of walking through the trees and I see a fire coming my way.

So maybe my entire base will be surrounded by a burning forest now. >_>


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 16:14:59


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


n0t_u wrote:Exploring at the moment as I need some cacti. So I decided to walk through the huge forest nearby as the other direction is the ocean. Half an hour of walking through the trees and I see a fire coming my way.

So maybe my entire base will be surrounded by a burning forest now. >_>


Woo lava. I do enjoy a good forest fire. Sadly there's not enough forest near me for a proper forest fire.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 16:16:02


Post by: Melissia


Sometimes lava flows form above land, which causes fires for obvious reasons. I've come across a desolated wasteland full of floating flaming tree pieces many times.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 16:25:38


Post by: Tyyr


I've got one above ground lava fall, no fires. Every other exposed lava formation is in a kind of bowl so no fires. I've been tempted to start a forest fire but I'd have to go way, way far away from my base and probably find an island to give into the temptation. I love my trees too much.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 16:37:18


Post by: Melissia


Trees just tend to get in the way of my stonework....


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 16:40:51


Post by: Mr Meatballs


Who wants a dakka dakka MC server?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 16:41:04


Post by: Wolf


Well I caved into temptation and got it and I must say it's strangely satisfying.

Currently building a Cobble stone stairs to my tower high upon a mountain, with my cave opposite. I haven't managed to find iron ore yet, I found some sort of stone with light brown bits in it but nothing came from them :\


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 16:45:56


Post by: Melissia


Died and started over again... dunno, I just... hate hving to continue after dying. Usually I die to lava is probably why.

Here's my current map's fort, and its two docks (they're hard to see from this angle though).



The second dock is on the bottom left, you can just barely see the torches. The first one is near the center, obscured by the trees but still visible due ot hte torches and the line of torches leading to it (which is a literal tunnel of cobblestone built to get to it without having to deal with monsters outside). The area with the two huge braziers is the main fort, abouve five levels high thus far, going to be higher whenever I get some more cobblestone (which will be soon, after I craft an iron pick to mine the redstone I found when I hit bedrock).


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 17:10:58


Post by: Avatar 720


I found some sort of stone with light brown bits in it but nothing came from them :\


That is iron ore, it needs to be mined with a stone pick or better otherwise it doesn't give anything.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 17:14:06


Post by: Mr Meatballs


Avatar 720 wrote:
I found some sort of stone with light brown bits in it but nothing came from them :\


That is iron ore, it needs to be mined with a stone pick or better otherwise it doesn't give anything.

Or it could be poop ore.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 17:33:44


Post by: Tyyr


Melissia wrote:Died and started over again... dunno, I just... hate hving to continue after dying. Usually I die to lava is probably why.

Not to be a jackass but how do you keep dying in lava over and over?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 17:49:52


Post by: Melissia


Usually because of creepers or forgetting to sneak while making lava traps.

But the good thing is that I this is the first game I've made a portal to the nether without using invedit. I used a single bucket, an infinite spring, some cobblestone, and a source of lava to create the obsidian in just the right shape, even though I haven't run into but a single diamond ore block.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 18:13:23


Post by: Tyyr


You still gotta find the diamond so you can mine some obsidian to make an exit portal though, if you don't just want to stay near the one you enter with that is.

I plan on casting my first doorway. Just seems more entertaining to do. I mean I can either haul water down to my mine, turn some lava to obsidian, then mine it. Or I haul the lava up out of my mine and cast it on the surface and skip the mining entirely. The second just seems a bit easier.

That's why I don't bother with lava traps, that and they destroy the mob drops.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 19:00:53


Post by: Melissia


Actually I don't, due to a set of weird circumstances.

Essentially... I died after a wraith or whatever those baby head tentacle things are shot me into a group of zombie pigmen, who were apparently enraged by it (maybe it knocked my aim off and caused me to hit one of them). And apparently he also deactivated the portal before I died. So I respawned, went back down and through the portal... then ended up outside the half-built fortress, in a second portal about five spaces from the old one. After FINALLY killing the flying fireball shooting thing and the zombie pigmen (which took a ton of arrows to do...) and collecting the loot and dropped equipment, I went through the old portal and ended up somewhere completely different... a dark, humongous cave I had not yet found, with lots of iron and coal in it, and the occasional gold, several lava and water source blocks, and lots of skeletons (possibly linking to a skelly dungeon).

So apparently my death paid dividends.


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As a side note, I hate finding really, REALLY large caves unless I'm at the top. Having five creepers drop down on me at once is not fun.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 20:34:34


Post by: Footsloggin


My world has:

Map surface is: 0 square meters
Block amounts:
Air: 34888176
Stone: 29457890
Grass: 269501
Dirt: 2963315
Snow: 49549
Snow blocks: 0
Water: 848719
Ice: 15035
Lava: 251888
Obisidian: 2477
Trunk: 21263
Leaves: 277605
Sand: 516648
Gravel: 914299
Clay: 548
Gold Ore: 16159
Iron Ore: 153484
Coal Ore: 319562
Diamond Ore: 6645
Redstone: 52984
Cobble: 6033
Glass: 26
Torch: 387
CraftTable: 5
Chest: 75
Furnace: 7

That's just some of it... Thank you legoburner for the Cartograph!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 20:35:28


Post by: Mr Meatballs


Who wants a dakka MC server?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 20:39:46


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Mr Meatballs wrote:Who wants a dakka MC server?


I doubt anyone has a pc that could handle that many people at once.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 20:47:52


Post by: Tyyr


I'd be all for it.

Also, note the cartographer output. 6,658 diamond ore, 548 clay. In minecraft bricks are more valuable than diamonds.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 20:55:50


Post by: Lord-Loss


I started my new world today and really lucked out.

I left my spawn and moved in a random direction and found a nice little cliff overlooking a lake whick has a nice view of the surrounding enviroment. Moving further out I found a lava lake in a small valley, which hadn't started any forest fires, thank god. Now here's the best part, right next to the lava lake was a few blocks of coal and iron! I made some tools, mined the iron and coal and found some more iron and coal in a small water pool only steps away from the lava lake.

So it's day two and I have 21 coal and 14 iron. Best world ever.



Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 21:19:41


Post by: johnscott10


My world is comin along quite nice tbh. Havnt had a decent world in a while. Currently playin on peaceful due to me being a builder not a fighter lol.

Got a nice fort being built to ward off creepers and the like lol. Will try get a decent pic shortly.

Also here are the 2 current skins I use often, guess who they are



My unfinished fort



Yes it has cacti every 2 blocks to block spiders crawling up my walls lol.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 21:21:19


Post by: Wolf


I'll be up for a Dakka server Unfortuinately my PC wouldn't hack it :(


I've just finished building a giant Bridge from my mountain Lair to my Tower which is still under construction.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 21:27:54


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Me and my mates have chipped in to buy a computer to act purely as a server block, depending on how that runs I may let you guys on to test how many people we can fit.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 21:31:34


Post by: Melissia


Finished the sixth floor of my castle, and found bucketloads of iron. Unfrotunately I needed those buckets to carry off the lava that it was hanging over (mostly I wnated to save them rather than destroy them, and they're useful in making light).

And I have about seven full stacks of redstone now. I can probably go make that double door and pressure plate system for my main docks now and see if it works...


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 21:55:21


Post by: Wolf


How much iron do you need a bucket ?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 21:56:48


Post by: Melissia


And I'd be up for SMP once I purchase the game, which sadly won't be for a while longer.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Wolf wrote:How much iron do you need a bucket ?
Eh, it's just a play on words . You only need three ingots for a bucket.

Position them like so (O = empty, X = iron ingot)

OOO
XOX
OXO


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 22:06:14


Post by: Wolf


Ahh ok cool now to go find some more iron ore !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 22:07:59


Post by: Mr Meatballs


corpsesarefun wrote:
Mr Meatballs wrote:Who wants a dakka MC server?


I doubt anyone has a pc that could handle that many people at once.


raedon 5800
I7 920
3 GB tri-channel ram.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/14 22:09:07


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Mr Meatballs wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:
Mr Meatballs wrote:Who wants a dakka MC server?


I doubt anyone has a pc that could handle that many people at once.


raedon 5800
I7 920
3 GB tri-channel ram.


If you have a wired fibre optic internet connection then you may be able to handle 10 to 15 people while running minecraft for yourself and the OS.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 00:46:04


Post by: Wolf


Ok so i recenty found a cave, and thought " Hey I'll explore that there cave !"

And I have discovered this huuuuugecavern that just goes on and on massive drops to lord knows where ! huge quantities of resources.

What have I stumbled upon ?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 00:52:00


Post by: johnscott10


Wolf wrote:Ok so i recenty found a cave, and thought " Hey I'll explore that there cave !"

And I have discovered this huuuuugecavern that just goes on and on massive drops to lord knows where ! huge quantities of resources.

What have I stumbled upon ?


A MAHOOSIVE cave, they are quite common, whats worse is if you dig correctly you can normally connect 2 caves together.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 00:54:11


Post by: Wolf


Hot damn a ninja spider killed me, That's alot of sutff I have to retrieve !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 00:59:59


Post by: youbedead


from behind you hear

ssssssssssssssssssssssssssss


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 01:16:04


Post by: Wolf


LoL Just happend to me now, damn creeper.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 01:19:47


Post by: SagesStone


johnscott10 wrote:Also here are the 2 current skins I use often, guess who they are




Left is Motoko Kusanagi?

I'm starting to think there are no cacti in my world.
After walking for around 2 hours through nothing but snow and a huge frozen lake looks like I'll have to Invedit in one block of it.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 01:37:06


Post by: johnscott10


n0t_u wrote:
johnscott10 wrote:Also here are the 2 current skins I use often, guess who they are




Left is Motoko Kusanagi?

I'm starting to think there are no cacti in my world.
After walking for around 2 hours through nothing but snow and a huge frozen lake looks like I'll have to Invedit in one block of it.


Indeed it is Motoko Kusanagi glad some1 knows haha.

Now just to get the other 1 identified .

Oh and you will find a desert biome at some point, i always spawn in a world with one of them appearing XD


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 01:45:36


Post by: SagesStone


I just found a small desert on my way back to base. It was hidden amongst some mountains covered with snow I walked past before.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 01:48:43


Post by: Lord-Loss


I imagine it would be pretty awesome to build on a large desert, the view would be great!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 01:54:36


Post by: Phototoxin


Vincent from FFVII?

I guessed it was the Major too (and I'm not even an anime-head!)

I finished my arboretum and at the moment I've expanded off from my bridge onto that small square island. IT's going to be my new tower!



Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 01:55:57


Post by: Tyyr


I want a sandstone castle. Cartographer assures me there are cacti on my map somewhere but I haven't seen them


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 02:03:43


Post by: Melissia


Playing around with TnT and redstone in my invedit game before I start playing around with it on my real game. I have five tnts thus far, which isn't an excessively large explosion but it's pretty nice nonetheless.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 02:06:53


Post by: johnscott10


Phototoxin wrote:Vincent from FFVII?

I guessed it was the Major too (and I'm not even an anime-head!)


Good guess but not quite there, he is from a game however. I think by that hint alone its narrowed it down a fair bit lol.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 02:16:47


Post by: Tyyr


Where could I get the major from?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 03:04:49


Post by: johnscott10


Tyyr wrote:Where could I get the major from?


http://www.minecraftskins.com/

Go to that site and search Motoko, and 4 choices will appear, then just upload it onto minecraft.net and jobs done.

There is a slight problem using a female skin though, they have a very manly grunt when they get hurt.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 04:28:42


Post by: Melissia


Aww, can only change skins if I pay. Heh. Ah well, I have a skin I chose, for whenever I get the chance to pay.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 05:05:54


Post by: SagesStone


I use a custom skin for offline but it doesn't work with texture packs.

All you need to do is download the skin. Then open minecraft.jar with winrar and go into the mob folder. Name the skin you downloaded to char.png. Then drag and drop.

This however replaces the default skin for the character. It doesn't work with the Painterly Pack I'm using, but you could always extract the existing char.png so you can remove the skin later if you wanted.

Tried replacing the character's skin with the Creeper one once. Just end up with a floating two legged Creeper.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 13:01:41


Post by: Melissia


Sadly, that doesnt' seem to work for me. It just stays there loading, wanting to update.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 15:28:34


Post by: Devastator


some fun with creepers
Spoiler:


weird, that map thing don't seem to work for me


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 15:30:05


Post by: Melissia


You should drop a tnt box or three on them. Sure, it'll damage your house a bit, but it'll be completely worth it.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 17:11:20


Post by: Wolf


Whats the best way to find and kill creepers I need alot of TNT to seperate my tower with the other half of the cliff


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 17:14:40


Post by: Ifalna


I use a giant water trap to farm creepers. If I stand at the collection area and set it to hard in options, I get about 2 of them a minute. does not sound massive but I just craft away while waiting for the drops.

Googling Minecraft water lava trap should get you some ideas.



Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 17:16:17


Post by: Darkseid


Originally I wanted to build the highest tower Minecraft has ever seen; how frustrated I was to find out that there was a celling!

johnscott10 wrote:Good guess but not quite there, he is from a game however.

My first impression was Trance Kuja from FF9?!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 17:22:15


Post by: Tyyr


Go to the minecraft wiki and look up "Mob farm". It's a bit labor intensive to set up, and I'm not 100% certain when they built it on the bedrock, but it cranks out a ton of drops. It's on my "to do" list right after finishing the perimeter wall of my new castle.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 17:34:00


Post by: johnscott10


Darkseid wrote:Originally I wanted to build the highest tower Minecraft has ever seen; how frustrated I was to find out that there was a celling!

johnscott10 wrote:Good guess but not quite there, he is from a game however.

My first impression was Trance Kuja from FF9?!


Nope not him either lol.

Creepers are fun to hunt, just for the lols really not if ur wanting the drops. Stone sword - check, right time to go hunt creepers!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 17:44:24


Post by: Wolf


I don't thik it helps when i set haf the forest on fire accidental lava placing.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 17:49:37


Post by: Tyyr


Probably not.

If you want to play around with TNT hunting creepers by hand is not going to get you anywhere. You've got to build a mob farm or three and go about it that way.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 21:09:28


Post by: Melissia


Yep, got to mob farm or use invedit.

As a side note, I'm working on a new project right now. Five 20x20x5 buildings. First one is about twenty above sea level, next one is about twenty five (starts twenty from the top of the first), next one thirty, next one thirty five, etc. All of them apparently floating off the ground save for a single bridge on the first one, and connected to eachother. It's taking a LOT of time and cobblestone, but it's been interesting and a great way to keep monsters out of my hair while I'm toying around with redstone.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/15 21:35:38


Post by: Wolf


Well I've started construction on my mob fam, and lucky me I get a lava lake in the middle of it

I'm down to the last 19 rows of clearing the 50 x 50 x 2 room out.
That's alot of cobblestone !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/16 17:43:28


Post by: Lord-Loss


Wolf wrote:Well I've started construction on my mob fam, and lucky me I get a lava lake in the middle of it

I'm down to the last 19 rows of clearing the 50 x 50 x 2 room out.
That's alot of cobblestone !


Post pictures of it in action when it's finished!

I've been having lots of fun with mobs at night recently, I've noticed a lack of spiders on my world so far, which is irritating because I need string (or whatever it's called) to make a bow. The few spiders I have found have been difficult to kill.

This is a picture of my tiny base and surrounding area:



I decided to replace all the dirt with glass so I could watch the mobs flock around my house, it's fun. I put the lava on the top because you can't place torches on glass and it works great as a light source.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/16 17:56:38


Post by: Melissia


What texture pack are you using?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/16 18:03:11


Post by: Lord-Loss


It's called Simplecraft. Link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=104854


Minecraft @ 2011/02/16 18:26:44


Post by: Tyyr


Mmm, lava adjacent. I'd have already emptied that pool out.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/16 19:39:39


Post by: Wolf


Well it's finally finished and up and running and churning out some decent numbers, I'll leave it running for a bit and then get soem screenshots for you.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/16 20:04:32


Post by: Lord-Loss


I've got no real use for the lava yet, I think it looks nice as it is and the screams of the occasional farm animal which dies a fiery, painful death makes me smile.

I think I'll dig down to bedrock and start branch mining, I don't really feel like making a real house, my glass box is fine for now. I'm toying with the idea of making some kind of glass observation deck hovering in the air so I can watch the mobs and fire arrows at them every now and again.



Minecraft @ 2011/02/16 20:45:20


Post by: Melissia


Ya, lava's hard to use in traps if you want the items.

I'm gonna make a grinder next time I find a dungeon... grinder = water flowing past some cacti, with a 1x1 opening exit where the water pushes the items to a designated spot . Fun times.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 07:10:23


Post by: the scarecrow


(quickly stands up waving one arm in the air waiting to be noticed)
i know what your other skin is johnscott10, its jack of blades from fable!!!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 07:15:57


Post by: SagesStone


I'm surprised I didn't realise that, JoB was the coolest character in that game.



There's the slight problem of items vanishing if they touch cacti though so it will be annoying to start with. Though you would probably lose at best 1/10 drops. When I had one it had slightly larger gaps then normal but ended in a drowning trap in case any creeps got that far.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 12:27:12


Post by: Tyyr


Eh, I like the lava guillotine style trap the minecraft wiki uses as an example.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 16:38:42


Post by: Wolf


That's what I built, I emptird one room out to find out I had dug it too deep and needd to start another, needless to say the second one works well enough


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 18:27:12


Post by: Melissia


It's fun to detonate a few dozen tnt blocks at the exact same time using redstone...

If only I had enough TNT to do it in my main game. I certainly have more than enough redstone.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 18:29:43


Post by: Captain Fantastic


Go buy it. I've heard it's great! I can't really play it (netbook), but I've watched lots of demos and such :3


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 18:41:43


Post by: Wolf


Hm how do you use redstone to detonate TNT ? that would be handy instead of running in hitting it and fleeing for my life


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 18:52:10


Post by: Melissia


Simple, the redstone just needs to be next to the tnt like it were a switch.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 18:52:41


Post by: Tyyr


Just lay the redstone right next to it I think, at least that's how the cannons I've seen have functioned.

I'm pondering how to make a second level for this lava guillotine trap. Something that will dump the mobs down in the right area so things don't get jammed up. This isn't the kind of thing you want to have to open up and fix after you've built it.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 19:02:40


Post by: Melissia


In my invedit world, from the top down, this is what I did. All of this is floating in the air by the way, well above the blast radius.

E = empty, B = block (any non-sand or gravel block will do), T = TNT


All blocks have redstone wire on them, and as long as the redstone is adjacent to a TNT it will activate its fuse. Mirror this on the other side for just shy of double the TNT. It might freeze up your computer though. The reason for the arrangement by the way is because of the limitation of the redstone wire only being able to carry a charge for fifteen blocks unless you have a repeater set up.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 19:03:07


Post by: Lord-Loss


I'm going to use Cartographer to find some dungeons and make mob spawner traps, should be fun.

Do items every de-spawn? I don't want the items to despawn if I don't collect them every day.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 19:07:36


Post by: Tyyr


They will despawn. Also mobs will only spawn in loaded chunks so you need to build your mob farm somewhere that you spend a lot of time and check it regularly. Based off what I've read due to the rate of drops you don't have to camp out there, it will make so much you'll run out of inventory room to move it all.

My idea is to use the Minecraft wiki mob farm and build a second level on top of the first. The top level will be built pretty much exactly as it's detailed. The lower level will be the same but instead of a 2x2 chute down into the guillotine it'll be a 4x4 chute. That way the mobs from above will fall down through the center while the mobs from the lower level will fall around the outside. I have to modify the plan to have a 4 wide guillotine but it should be fine regardless.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 19:19:28


Post by: Melissia


As a side note, anyone abused the fact that reeds/sugar cane block water and lava and don't catch on fire?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 19:28:17


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Melissia wrote:As a side note, anyone abused the fact that reeds/sugar cane block water and lava and don't catch on fire?


Yep Running water destroys them though


Minecraft @ 2011/02/17 19:51:23


Post by: Wolf


Tyyr wrote:They will despawn. Also mobs will only spawn in loaded chunks so you need to build your mob farm somewhere that you spend a lot of time and check it regularly. Based off what I've read due to the rate of drops you don't have to camp out there, it will make so much you'll run out of inventory room to move it all.

My idea is to use the Minecraft wiki mob farm and build a second level on top of the first. The top level will be built pretty much exactly as it's detailed. The lower level will be the same but instead of a 2x2 chute down into the guillotine it'll be a 4x4 chute. That way the mobs from above will fall down through the center while the mobs from the lower level will fall around the outside. I have to modify the plan to have a 4 wide guillotine but it should be fine regardless.


Sounds like a good plan, you may even be lucky enough and find a dungeon like I did !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 01:16:36


Post by: DA's Forever


Melissia wrote:As a side note, anyone abused the fact that reeds/sugar cane block water and lava and don't catch on fire?


Say Whaaaaat?!

Need sugar cane, must stop lava


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 09:23:22


Post by: BrookM


Lady, gentlemen, Minecraft: The Last Minecart




Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 09:38:05


Post by: Melkhiordarkblade


To be fair redstone could be a bit more useful.

Personally I never use it,opening a door with a creeper near is hard enough without having to pull a lever too.

The same with Lapiz Lupis I have so much that I only really compress them into building blocks.

Plus traps are a bit too much,I just leave murder holes around my castle.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 12:36:50


Post by: Tyyr


Wolf wrote:Sounds like a good plan, you may even be lucky enough and find a dungeon like I did !

Three weeks of playing the game and I have yet to find a dungeon.

I'm changing my plan on the mob farm. Instead of duplicating the design on top of the first level I'm just going to build a floor above the first one but no conveying system. Instead I'll just leave slots above the canals on the first level. That way mobs that spawn on the second level will just fall into the preexisting transport system on the first level. Saves me a lot of construction time,no second canal system to build, and a lot of height on the farm since ideally I want to cover it over with dirt once I finish so it just looks like part of the landscape.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 12:57:11


Post by: Melissia


Hrm... feb 18th again. Guess I'll go bake myself a cake in minecraft.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 15:43:14


Post by: vaatbak


Melissia wrote:Hrm... feb 18th again. Guess I'll go bake myself a cake in minecraft.


Your birthday?



Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 16:38:44


Post by: Melissia


Yep. Though someone else made a lemon cake for me IRL (which is fine, I like lemon cake, certainly more than I do most chocolate cakes which tend to either over or under do the chocolate aspect), I made a cake for myself in minecraft lol.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 16:54:27


Post by: Macok


Minecraft is awesome.. Where else can you send animals to the moon: Space program.

My own little village is tiny so far. I had to stop playing the damn thing after spending A LOT time building my mage tower. I just needed a rehab..


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 17:35:06


Post by: Tyyr


I want to take a look at that cannon and see if the 73 m^3 of TNT was a limit of how long it takes the TNT to drop into the water trough or what. I'd like to make an even bigger cannon.

I want to send Pigs to Mars.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 17:44:35


Post by: Melissia


Screw that, I want to ride in that space program cannon and see where it launches me.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 18:22:21


Post by: Wolf


Pahahaha that spaceprogram is awesome.

Also any advances on the dakka server proposal ?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 19:24:40


Post by: Tyyr


Can you survive the launch? I know the water cushions the surrounding terrain but not pllayers, mobs, and such. I think. So could you survive the launch in a minecart? Unless you hit water I doubt you'd survive, and I'd wonder what would happen when you hit the top of the world. I wonder if you'd have to set a cannon like that on the bedrock to get the best distance with it.

Lot of questions I guess. Hmm... makes me want to build a cannon and experiment with it. If it works you should be able to test it out and if you can survive launch you could build a water landing target downrange.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 19:38:44


Post by: Wolf


Would be an epic way of getting around ! Cannons too and from forts ? Sounds pretty fun tbh.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 19:45:10


Post by: Melissia


I know you won't survive the fall unless it's in water if you get launched in person, but I'm not sure about in minecarts.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 19:54:57


Post by: Tyyr


Yeah, the landing I'm not worried about. That's just figuring out where you land and then digging a pit you flood. It's the launch that worries me.

And yes, it would be an EPIC method of transportation.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 19:56:35


Post by: metallifan


He made a video of himself riding the space program, so yes you can survive, though apparently you travel faster than the game can load the next cell, so as soon as you outpace the game's ability to load the map you hit an invisible wall and fall straight down.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 20:35:58


Post by: Tyyr


Hmm, I wonder if that's a hardware limitation.

Alternately you can scale the charge back some.

Obviously this will mean many many naked test rides to perfect.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/18 21:16:56


Post by: Melissia


But testing is the best part of any scientific endeavor! Aside from completion anyway.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 00:18:56


Post by: SagesStone


Completion also means the fun part is kind of over. Always room to improve.

Happy birthday by the way.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 00:28:57


Post by: Lord-Loss


I think I've finished my small glass house. I'm gonna make some kind of hovering observation deck which may or may not, depending on my mood, become a real base.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 00:49:09


Post by: Melissia


I had way too much sand, so I constructed a dock entirely out of sandstone (which takes four sand blocks to create-- I had an entire stack of sandstone, and yet I still had plenty of sand to spare).


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 00:53:20


Post by: metallifan


Anyone else notice that Sandstone doesn't show up in Cartographer? I made a small arabian village along a desert highway, but cartographer won't show the walls of the buildings because they're made of sandstone


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 00:58:17


Post by: Melissia


Neither does glowstone.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 02:58:27


Post by: Melkhiordarkblade


I build a castle out of sandstone,had to clear a desert for ages,then I filled the ex desert with dirt so I can grow crops and trees.

Man 1, Desertification 0

I also plan on making a sandstone harbour at my spawn point on the beach,a Cathedrael with a portal to Hell under it and maybe if I have time,a nice astronomy tower.

BTW Happy Birthday Melissia.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 07:35:05


Post by: dogma


Finally got cartographer to work. The white lines represent the general extent of my construction (its almost all underground, with windows in cliff faces) and the red circles represent mine locations.



Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 13:03:17


Post by: Tyyr


Finished my mob farm, and of course forgot to take screenshots of my finishing it, putting in the canals, and everything else.

But I have some shots of it in action.


Four Creepers at once going up in flames.


The lava guillotine itself.


My first haul out of it from AFK'ing at the outlet I designed.

Total for 3 hours:
211 Sulphur
287 Arrows
192 Feathers
290 Bones
33 String

803 Drops in 3 hours. Not too shabby since all I have to do is stand at the end of the farm and let the rewards just float to me. One thing I did notice though is that spiders because of the way they get into the guillotine tend to toss their string up farther into the kill zone thereby incinerating it and only drop it down about once every 6 to 8 times. Kind of sucks but then again, how much string do I really need?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 13:40:32


Post by: Lord-Loss


Holy gak thats awesome, I need one. Now if I only wasn't so lazy.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 13:42:48


Post by: Melissia


I think I prefer the grinder myself. I know it is hardly perfect either, but I just don't quit trust lava.

And nice metal pants.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 14:07:21


Post by: Tyyr


Yeah, got jumped by a spider as I was finishing the farm. Didn't bother getting things replaced just yet. The grinder's good, and I may see about a variation on it for another farm, but all I seem to be losing a lot of is string so... meh.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 14:55:53


Post by: Mr Meatballs


due to fire my treehouse is no longer a treehouse but has become a regular house in midair


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 15:36:45


Post by: Tyyr


Dude, put away the flint and steel when you're around a tree.

Has anyone tried to make a giant tree out of a bunch of smaller trees?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 15:49:29


Post by: Wolf


No but that's a cracking idea !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 16:10:31


Post by: Macok


I made an awsome glass palace incorporated into a huge ass tree in classic once.. Next day I found it destroyed completely.. Damn griefers


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 16:29:32


Post by: SagesStone


Tyyr wrote:Dude, put away the flint and steel when you're around a tree.

Has anyone tried to make a giant tree out of a bunch of smaller trees?


You mean plant a tree on a tree. Cause I've been doing that lately and got to 12-13 tall before it hit the ceiling.
Managed to take screenshots of it in progress as well so I'll upload later if people are interesting. I guess I'll upload the pics of the rollercoaster that were wanted at the same time.


Nice mob farm, I'll have to try it soonish.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 16:37:17


Post by: Tyyr


It was a lot of work because of the way I went about it, ie the stupid way excavating the entire vertical column. Made it about twice the work it should have been. The good thing is the volume of drops I'm harvesting from it. I've got enough sulfur to really start thinking about experimenting with cannons.

I really need to find out more about what makes a mob spawn. What's the maximum distance from you they'll spawn and such. I'd hate to build a big mob farm and find out most of it's not generating mobs because I'm too far from the generating surface for them to spawn.

Also, I think spiders might be a problem as I hear a TON of spider noises all the time when in the room but don't see any spiders coming down. Then a spider or two will come down followed by a lot of other mobs. So I'm going to increase the height of the roof of the tunnel heading to the guillotine so that spiders will hopefully congregate above other mobs heads and let them keep going.

Hourly generation rates of this one for comparison later.
70 Sulfur/hour
96 Arrows/hour
97 Bones/hour
11 String/hour

If the mod works then I should see everything but string increase in drop rate. The more I think about it the more I think this kind of mob farm isn't suited to farming spiders. Then again how much string do you really need?

As for the Tree thing I meant building a "trunk" out of wood then building branches. Make little planters in the branches to hold dirt and then plant a tree in them so it grows and starts having leaves. Plant enough trees and it could look like one giant tree. Or just a really malformed one, I dunno.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:06:08


Post by: Mr Meatballs


Tyyr wrote:Dude, put away the flint and steel when you're around a tree.

Has anyone tried to make a giant tree out of a bunch of smaller trees?

I WANTED A FIREPLACE!
get off my back.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:38:50


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I just burnt down my huge wooden tower trying to make a fireplace :(


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:42:29


Post by: metallifan


I did that with a tavern in one of my villages. Built a stone fireplace in a wood building.

The fireplace won.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:42:49


Post by: Wolf


Haha I am paranoid about building fire places, I've seen them gor wrong...badly. I don't want to destroy my giant wooden tower !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:43:29


Post by: metallifan


You know what stops your house from burning down?

Roman-themed Space Marines


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:44:11


Post by: Corpsesarefun


40 blocks high :( So much wood lost.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:45:58


Post by: metallifan


Don't you mean 40,000 blocks?


In the Grim Darkness of Minecraft, there are only house fires.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:46:52


Post by: Mr Meatballs


Half the coast is ablaze


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:47:56


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Mr Meatballs wrote:Half the coast is ablaze


I lived in a huge forest :(


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:50:00


Post by: Wolf


Haha still trying to make me do those marines 'ey Metallfin.
Corpses I think my tower is of a similar hight, I feel your pain, mine is made out of the white tree blocks


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:51:50


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Wolf wrote:Haha still trying to make me do those marines 'ey Metallfin.
Corpses I think my tower is of a similar hight, I feel your pain, mine is made out of the white tree blocks


Jesus Mine was only planks.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:52:39


Post by: metallifan


Wolf wrote:Haha still trying to make me do those marines 'ey Metallfin.


Yea, I am, big whoop, wanna fight about it?



Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:56:49


Post by: Wolf


corpsesarefun wrote:
Wolf wrote:Haha still trying to make me do those marines 'ey Metallfin.
Corpses I think my tower is of a similar hight, I feel your pain, mine is made out of the white tree blocks


Jesus Mine was only planks.


Yep now can you see why I am paranoid haha ! Looks bloody brilliant though for a hideously pixilated tower

Haha My space wolves would be my new marine army I'm afraid, please, feel free to carry on my legacy of Roman Space marines !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 18:59:35


Post by: metallifan


Meh, I'm too busy trying to find a good spot to build my medieval walled city, or at least a town with a palisade. I don't want to have to use TNT to demolish a mountain but that might be required.

So far I've only got 3 villages. One of them is fairly large, but I wouldn't call it a town so much as a little hamlet on my spawn island.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 19:52:00


Post by: Macok


The most important thing while building a fireplace is:
- Make a backup of a world. It's not cheating, its caring


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 19:55:11


Post by: metallifan


Or build your wall with the fireplace out of stone


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 19:56:54


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


Indeed, since I got my new PC stuff I've started a new world, going the dwarven route at the moment, nearly everything is underground with large skylights to light the rooms. I'll post some pics once I get all the basic rooms sorted out. I still need to make a furnace/crafting room and living space.

PS: This week's update sounds interesting. Beds! Apparently they'll replace your spawn point if you sleep in one, great for those that like travelling long distances away from their original spawn to build homes.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 20:03:50


Post by: Lord-Loss


This could be good news for maps like Escapecraft too, i'm sure the map builders will find an interesting way to include this.



Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 20:09:37


Post by: Tyyr


Ohhhh, nice.

I altered the chute in my mob farm. Spiders slide right on down now, but they still toss their string forward into the lava destroying it. Might be time to try a grinder.

Oh, dunno why but I get runs with this thing. For instance when I logged in I watched 5 skeletons go by, then 3 zombies, then 7 creepers, then 4 spiders. Just like that, no intermixing. Strange. Maybe the game spawns in waves.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 20:30:31


Post by: metallifan


You mean I have to go around deleting all my 1X3 and 2X3 white-and-coloured-wool-block beds?

DAMNIT!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 20:42:20


Post by: Footsloggin


Well, I just about crapped myself. But, I now have a story to tell Dakka about my trip to the nether and to my lost world.

To begin, I am on world 2, but had a save prior to this incident on world 2 as well, however, I rage deleted that when I fell into lava.

ANYWAY... I begin construction of my massive underwater glass box, and decide that I will build my obsidian portal to the Nether there. Good idea? I thought so a few hours ago too... After bailing out enough water, and finally getting my underwater portal completed, I decided to visit the Nether to retrieve some glowstone and Netherrack. However, I got lost in there, with fireballs being shot at me, and the noises in there driving me more insane than attempting to enter Tzeentch's glass palace. I finally make it back to more portal, almost an hour and a half later, and go through it, thinking I would come out at my previously created portal... I was wrong...

I exit to a sunrise, staring at a tree. "A tree?" I thought to myself, as I watched a zombie fall dead at my feet. I look to my left and down in the valley below, I see it. My old base, from my DELETED World 2, I immediately go inside, remembering it how it was almost a month ago. I grab my items, my chest, and everything else, when I realize I have absolutely no clue where my original base was, or how the portal on the mountain got there in the first place. I mean, I never made a portal in the nether, nor did I destroy the one which I used to enter it.

Thanks to legoburner's post here about Cartographer, I managed to map World 2, but couldn't find where I was. So I booted the game back up, started a forest fire, and then loaded another map on Cartographer. I'm on the other side of the map from my base, across an ocean and a mountain or two.

Point to all of this? Playing on deleted Worlds can really come back to bite you in your behind if you decide to use portals to access the Nether.

Due to my incident here, I now wonder if deleted worlds remain on file, and when you recreate a world, is your original file is incorporated into it?


Minecraft @ 2011/02/19 21:24:03


Post by: Melissia


Tyyr wrote:Dude, put away the flint and steel when you're around a tree.

Has anyone tried to make a giant tree out of a bunch of smaller trees?
I did that in classic. It went from bedrock to ceiling. I should try to do it in normal though.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 00:45:42


Post by: SagesStone


So everyone's fireplaces burn down their wooden houses?
Every wooden building I've made has a fireplace and none have burnt down, except if I got bored and used the flint and steel or lava.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 00:57:13


Post by: Footsloggin


n0t_u wrote:So everyone's fireplaces burn down their wooden houses?
Every wooden building I've made has a fireplace and none have burnt down, except if I got bored and used the flint and steel or lava.


When I built my little cabin nothing burnt down, I just set it up like this:

C= Cobblestone
W= Wood

C C C C C
C_____C
C WW C

EDIT: Gah! Annoying Spacebar editor!


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 01:00:16


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Footsloggin wrote:
n0t_u wrote:So everyone's fireplaces burn down their wooden houses?
Every wooden building I've made has a fireplace and none have burnt down, except if I got bored and used the flint and steel or lava.


When I built my little cabin nothing burnt down, I just set it up like this:

C= Cobblestone
W= Wood

C C C C C
C_____C
C WW C

EDIT: Gah! Annoying Spacebar editor!


I did this but with netherrack instead of wood, the wood behind the cobblestone ignited anyway :(


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 01:06:58


Post by: SagesStone


Yeh mine would go out sometimes so I replaced the wood in it with netherrack.


Like this
The wall is level with the center of it.

CCC
CNC
CCC

Then a small 1 or 2 block gap for the fire and empty space above the fire itself acting like a chimney you can see the smoke from occasionally. At least until I had to put cacti up there due to the spiders. >_>


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 01:39:40


Post by: johnscott10


Iv had a few accidents with fireplaces, mainly my ceiling burning down lol, but to counter this all i done was move the fire 1 block down, saved putting the floor up by 1 lol.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 01:46:51


Post by: Avatar 720


I tested mine out. I waited for about five minutes, watching and waiting for this new fireplace to go up. It did not, so I turned my back and went down to another part of my base. I go back up about 10 seconds later and the roof is ablaze.

Luckily, it was just the rood that was wooden, but i'm still at a loss as to why it took over five mintues for it to catch.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 02:09:25


Post by: Melissia


Because Notch hates you.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 02:21:42


Post by: DA's Forever


Melissia wrote:Because Notch hates you.


This seems to be a probable answer


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 03:41:22


Post by: SagesStone


Also explains Creepers.



Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 04:18:55


Post by: DA's Forever


n0t_u wrote:Also explains Creepers.





Notch you joker you! Making walking bombs... SSSSSSSSSSsssssssssssssss... OH SHI-


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 09:10:23


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


I said I'd get a screenshot of my underground mine/home and here it is:



If anyone want's to see the interior let me know and I'll take a few screenshots.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 09:12:24


Post by: SagesStone


Yeh might as well take shots of the inside.
Not everyday you see an underground base.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 09:30:33


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


Ok...

First here's the entrance corridoor, I still need to get the ceiling sorted as it's currently just the remnant of the previous entrance which was based on my first night shelter.



The entrance corridoor leads to the main room/mine, the chests, crafting bench and furnace will be moved soon:




Next the bathroom, not much I can really say about this as it's just there to look good:



One of the two empty rooms destined to become either a bedroom or furnace room:



The warehouse, I may need to expand this at some point:



And finally the reason I built this base, my mine. I built this as a branch mine because I've got bored of strip mining:




Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 09:33:11


Post by: SagesStone


I like the mine/pit of doom and the warehouse.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 09:38:14


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


I did have a creeper fall in that while I was buidling the roof, it was quite entertaining to watch it fall all the way to the bedrock.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 09:39:56


Post by: SagesStone


I'm sure it would have been.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 09:43:44


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


Of course I've fallen down it more times than I care to remember, I think once I've got the bottom floor mined out I'm going to fill it with water simply to stop myself falling to a horrible death on a regular basis.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 09:59:29


Post by: SagesStone


Your pit has just given me an idea for some super trap using the lava guillotine Tyyr used.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 10:41:35


Post by: Mr Meatballs


I HAZ FARmm1 nao


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 13:04:10


Post by: Nick Ellingworth


n0t_u wrote:Your pit has just given me an idea for some super trap using the lava guillotine Tyyr used.


I want to see pics of that.

Can't comment on it's use as a trap but in a single night's mining I managed to get 9 lapis lauzi, 2 diamond, 43 redstone and 48 coal. I'm quite happy with that, and that's only 6 tunnels off the first side tunnel from the main shaft. I've got a lot more digging to do before the bottom layer is mined out.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 13:07:28


Post by: SagesStone


Well I'm thinking along the lines of how a blackhole works with it. But I kind of want a spire like base in the center of it.

So the first prototype I'm doing for the whole thing is 68x68.

If it works and I ever get around to it I might want to try to make one the size of a chunk.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 13:14:08


Post by: Tyyr


Nick Ellingworth wrote:Of course I've fallen down it more times than I care to remember, I think once I've got the bottom floor mined out I'm going to fill it with water simply to stop myself falling to a horrible death on a regular basis.


Make it three deep and you can just jump down. I've got a chute set up in my base that goes all the way to bedrock with a 1x1x3 water pit at the bottom. I can get from my fort to bedrock in about eight seconds. Going back up...

I've been looking into it and for whatever reason my mob farm is not generating at the rate it should. Theoretically a single floor 50x50 farm like this SHOULD be generating about 2,000 drops per hour. I'm not seeing anything remotely to that level. I'm getting about 300 drops per hour. Do I need 2,000 an hour... not really. However it would be nice to be able to just AFK at the outlet for twenty or thirty minutes and scoop up what I'm getting for a whole night's AFK right now. That and I'm a tinkerer, I can't let this thing not work the way it's supposed to even if it meets my needs. IT'S BROKEN DAMN IT! It must be fixed! I've got two ideas for why it's not working how it should, spider clogs or me.

So I built observation galleries along my chute. Nothing clogging up there. In fact once spiders drop down into the chute they move right along and get killed. My next move is to build and observation point above the entrance too my chute which is going to take some careful positioning and some ladders. I'm thinking spiders with their incessant wall climbing might be clogging up the canal terminations where they dump into the final leg to the guillotine. This might explain why I see pulses of mobs instead of a steady streams.

The other possibility is me. I've read on the forums that no mobs will spawn within a 24 meter radius of you or your spawn. If this is true then it could easily explain why I don't see that many mobs. My collection point is not too far from the center of the farm. I could very well be eliminating 80% of the generating area simply by being at the collection point. That could easily explain why I'm getting so few drops. The only way to test that is a lot of digging and water conveyors to get me well outside the farm but you'd think that would be a documented issue with this style farm. Then again people might just go meander around doing whatever they please and only occasionally check the collection box. In that case you wouldn't really notice the two or three minutes a large portion of generating floor is out of commission because of your presence. It could explain why the original farm of this style was built just above the bedrock. It kept the creator away from it and he'd only go down occasionally to check it.

Either option requires some digging on my part. Guess I've got my project for the night.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 13:30:21


Post by: Ifalna


http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=277553&id=714797110&l=9876ec0e64

Few pics I have up of my home world so far, none of the multiplayer yet.

Can see the size of the giant water trap and lava guillotene that works like a charm, really nice output of items constantly, though I did die repeatedly while making it ><
No project building yet, just the mine house and storage. Going to start a project on the multiplayer, was thinking a giant floating cocoon fortress like the Monarchs, or a proper spindly evil castle.

Have to get some day shots and clear out the massive forest canopy that obscures my building so I can get some decent pics of it. Curse my giant farm.




Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 15:13:16


Post by: Tyyr


Move it all underground.

I've got a tree farm and mob farm under my base and I'm working on getting another cavern hollowed out for crops.

...can grass grow on dirt underground with enough torchlight? If so I may even try an animal farm underground.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 16:34:58


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Tyyr wrote:Move it all underground.

I've got a tree farm and mob farm under my base and I'm working on getting another cavern hollowed out for crops.

...can grass grow on dirt underground with enough torchlight? If so I may even try an animal farm underground.


I had a lawn on the bedrock so yes grass can grow underground with enough light, however grass will only grow on dirt adjacent to grass.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 16:38:45


Post by: Tyyr


Hmm... well I know that animals can spawn underground with light and grass. I guess I'll just have to build a grass elevator, dig steps down to the cavern from the surface and once grass makes its way down below I'll cover it all up again.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 17:00:01


Post by: Wolf


I may have to do the same as I am, currently building that giant tree we were talking about, it would be nice to have grass under it, shame I built it like 60 blocks above the ground


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 17:12:04


Post by: Tyyr


...huh? Sea level is at elevation 64, bed rock is 0, and the top of the sky is 128. If you're building it 60 meters off the ground then your tree is only going to be 4 meters tall at best.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 17:19:50


Post by: Wolf


Well I mean from the dirt, so it'll be nearing the 128 mark,
Bloody difficult to place the trees on it to get them dense enough.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 18:24:30


Post by: Macok


All this talking about fireplaces made me go and check my old house.. I did manage to build one in my tiny house.. The room looks a little bland - didn't have time to decorate it..

It is possible, and if I recall correctly, wasn't so hard to do..



Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 18:51:55


Post by: Wolf


Hah ! Like the stone sofa

And I just suffered my first major lava death, I almost rage quit, but remembered that I had my moster farm built so it'sjust better to grind me teath and carry on !


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 18:54:46


Post by: Melissia


The creepers are working in teams now and trying to kill me that way x.x


I just had one creeper knock me into another, which knocked me off the cliff right in front of another. Somehow managed to get far enough away to just barely survive though...


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 21:44:38


Post by: DA's Forever


They're tricky little rascals


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 21:49:29


Post by: Wolf


Nice, just found my second dungeon, a singel saddle is all that was worth mentioning in the loot :\


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 22:06:39


Post by: Melissia


Ugh, saddles. Waste of space. If they could be stacked it would be okay, but they can't, so they suck.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 22:11:42


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Melissia wrote:Ugh, saddles. Waste of space. If they could be stacked it would be okay, but they can't, so they suck.


I take it you have never ridden a pig on ice.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 23:13:49


Post by: Macok


corpsesarefun wrote:
Melissia wrote:Ugh, saddles. Waste of space. If they could be stacked it would be okay, but they can't, so they suck.


I take it you have never ridden a pig on ice.


Or fly one. That is no joke. You can actually fly on a pig for a while in MC..


Minecraft @ 2011/02/20 23:25:29


Post by: Melissia


With mods I presume? With default settings you can't even control it.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/21 13:20:51


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Melissia wrote:With mods I presume? With default settings you can't even control it.


No mods, just ride a pig that is standing on ice and control it by making tracks for the pig to go down.

For flying I guess it involves TNT


Minecraft @ 2011/02/21 13:30:54


Post by: Melissia


So basically like minecarts, but not as good.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/21 13:34:25


Post by: Wolf


But not as good ? Your riding a freakin' 8 bit pig ! that's awesome


Minecraft @ 2011/02/21 14:05:21


Post by: Tyyr


Now there would be a forum title.

"Pig Rider"

In other news trying to move from an established base to a new one is a pain in the ass.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/21 14:12:04


Post by: Wolf


Hah I bet ! Currently building a giant ship currently the layout is 60 long and 20 wide and will eventually be 20 high or so, excluding the masts.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/21 14:12:18


Post by: EagleArk


corpsesarefun wrote:
Melissia wrote:With mods I presume? With default settings you can't even control it.


No mods, just ride a pig that is standing on ice and control it by making tracks for the pig to go down.

For flying I guess it involves TNT


Flying it involves hitting it so it rises, but it will die eventuallly.



Minecraft @ 2011/02/21 14:21:58


Post by: Tyyr


Yeah, that's something I want to do eventually. Build a harbor and ships for it. I need to see if there are any boat mods, maybe you can build a large functional one.

Trying to empty everything from the above ground portion of my base so I can level my old fort and start construction on my new keep inside my walls. Also need to build a gatehouse so I can stop piling up dirt on the outside to get over them and back into my base. I only have about twenty stacks of cobblestone though so I'm going to have to gather a lot more before I can build the keep and gatehouse.

Did manage to collect 64 cactus chunks though. So I'm going to start a cactus farm. I have no real use for the cactus but that's not going to stop me from setting up a farm for it "just in case."

Oh, found a quirk I hadn't counted on with my tree farm. I packed them in, not quite in the max efficency style but still pretty dense. I didn't get enough saplings to replace all that I harvested. Turns out when you build them that close they start to share their canopies so instead of each tree dropping 2 or three saplings I was just getting less than one. Still the farm as it existed yielded eight stacks of wood or 32 stacks of planks and it takes only about an hour or two ingame to mature so I'm going back with a less dense pattern to hopefully find a density that is sustainable. That's the goal of all my farms, create them so they are sustainable without having to make outside farming trips. With any luck I'll be able to arrange it so the only resources I can't get within the walls of my keep will be sand and clay.

Oh, and trying to farm/mine obsidian is a pain, I'm casting my nether portal.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/21 14:25:35


Post by: vaatbak


Yeah I just did it.
I downloaded minecraft alpha (the one that is free) to be hornoust I had a good time, but I cant realy imagine that this will stay fun for long.


Minecraft @ 2011/02/21 14:36:12


Post by: EagleArk


vaatbak wrote:Yeah I just did it.
I downloaded minecraft alpha (the one that is free) to be hornoust I had a good time, but I cant realy imagine that this will stay fun for long.


Trust me, the full game is much better than the free version.