Commander Cain wrote:Fantastic thread Rawson! I personally love Vostroyans and have been thinking of picking some up, your work is only getting me closer to that goal!
Interested to see how the tank turns out

Thanks, Cain! See below for the next WIP

dsteingass wrote:The League of Extraordinary Riveters!

I'm in! Where can I join?

Viktor von Domm wrote: leaque of extraordinary riveters! join us now...! recruiting lines (or should we call it rivetinglines) are open 24/7^^

Oh, good! I think membership in the "league of extraordinary riveters" is Signature worthy!

Here's how the turret looks with the rivets trimmed. A little cleaning up to do on them, and then some paint!


And...I went a little overboard on the rest of the tank

Jamumools wrote:I thought you'd put rivets on the horses - phew!

Viktor von Domm wrote:I bet the riveting methode would work well on saddles for your horses too...just a hint

dsteingass wrote:Steampunk mechanical steeds with rivets?

Well, they aren't exactly rivets in this case, but basically the same thing.


Thanks for looking!
Rawson

THat is completely unnacceptable! How can a GW fluff thing like that even work with so few rivets?
Or not festooned with skulls?

dsteingass wrote:THat is completely unnacceptable! How can a GW fluff thing like that even work with so few rivets?
Or not festooned with skulls?

Word of the Day: "Festooned"

yeah... he did it!!! riveted up a horse! you are my riveting hero now^^ (it is a trophy that´s only in your possesion for around a week...but it´s the title that really brings the fame^^)

the tank looks cool... if i had a plastic tank i sure would try that methode too....well i could for once try it with kebapsticks....

and about the league...if someone would bring on a banner... i am in already^^


by the way... for my next tank i am really thinking about copying your paintscheme for your tanks...that creamy apreareance really speaks to me...

those rivits on the turret turned out nicely

something like this

Although the riveted horse is uniquely epic!

Viktor von Domm wrote:yeah... he did it!!! riveted up a horse! you are my riveting hero now^^ (it is a trophy that´s only in your possesion for around a week...but it´s the title that really brings the fame^^)

dsteingass wrote:Although the riveted horse is uniquely epic!

Well, you know my motto: Do something epic every day!

Viktor von Domm wrote:the tank looks cool...

Rogue Wolves wrote:those rivits on the turret turned out nicely

Thanks guys!

Viktor von Domm wrote:and about the league...if someone would bring on a banner... i am in already^^

Be careful what you wish for!

dsteingass wrote:something like this

Yes, I actually have a 28mm scale one of these bad boys. Makes the rivets go a lot faster.

Viktor von Domm wrote:by the way... for my next tank i am really thinking about copying your paintscheme for your tanks...that creamy apreareance really speaks to me...

Wow, that's quite the compliment! Kommando Khaki is my friend.

Thanks for looking, guys!
Rawson

Riveted a horse ... Excellent !

Dst that rivet gun is super, though the picture reminds me of one of those .. what happens next shots ;-)

on all acounts^^

How'd you like to be looking down the barrel of this newly riveted, bad boy?

95% done with the rivets, unless you guys can see a place that needs more. They just need a little bit of TLC before I hits 'em with the paint.


As I was naming this picture, I started laughing because it sounded so much like an antique curse: "Ah, horse rivets"

I hope to get another update up later, but that all depends on how fast I can get all of this work done...


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Okay, I know I said I had work to do, but I got distracted. It was for a good cause!

So? What do you guys think? It's a little bit of a concept banner, but you get the idea...

for the barrle looking...rather not but the tank looks wonderful... by the way...you showed some serious balls by drilling rivetholes for the rods in an already done tank! whoa!

the horse looks really good now and i expect after a lik of paint to the leatherwork to make the brassen rivtes shine up it will be most unique!

and if that wasn´t enough for one update...the league...count me in...in fact if you dont feel the need for changing something...maybe a tad more in the brassy sector of the scheme...but i show the flag immediately if you allow....^^




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ups it is a tad to high for my signature...

The banner looks good. If Vik would paint up his riveter minis and take some good photos, you could superimpose that picture into the banner.

ah^^ press me into getting my work done faster^^ lol... but yeah... tell you what i will actually open up project three and get the rivetrs primed in the evening....! deal?

oh Vik, you have totally earned being pressed by Karma alone! lol

tstststs... i always urge you on for yer own good... young man it is high time you appreciate that given attention and helpful deeds i am providing.... tutut... no...*shakes head* what has become of the youth of today...

Viktor von Domm wrote:the tank looks wonderful... by the way...you showed some serious balls by drilling rivetholes for the rods in an already done tank! whoa!

Thanks, Vik! That's why it has taken me six months with the riveting rod lying around before getting up the gumption. One does not usually go about drilling into a painted tank!

Viktor von Domm wrote:the horse looks really good now and i expect after a lik of paint to the leatherwork to make the brassen rivtes shine up it will be most unique!

I hope so. The others will most likely join him soon.

Viktor von Domm wrote:and if that wasn´t enough for one update...the league...count me in...in fact if you dont feel the need for changing something...maybe a tad more in the brassy sector of the scheme...but i show the flag immediately if you allow....^^

I like your zeal! Here is another option I worked up after Eziekiel (Thanks, btw, EZ!) gave me a good banner tip.



I think it might fit in the signature block a bit easier.

Thoughts?

Okay. I REALLY need to get to work now

HAH! your a man after my gusto! yeah i like that very much!
and well work is not all that is cracked up to be^^ so your work is welcome (the hobby work that is^^)

how long did the rivetsmaking process for the horses took up?

Rawson wrote:I'm in! Where can I join?

I declare that you don't ASK to become a member of the League of Extraordinary Riveters..
You GET ASKED.

But Rawson, you, Shas and Vik and I are founding fathers. Who else gets grandfathered in?

We judge potential initiates of this secret society by their posting some form of original or obsessive riveting to be considered for membership.

oh know they are taking over!!! i claim heresy =][= must come at once!

Hehehe! and so many ways we make rivets as well!



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Oh yeah Rawson, check this thread out as far as the rivetting I do goes!http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/2190/326377.page


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Rogue Wolves wrote:oh know they are taking over!!! i claim heresy =][= must come at once!

My dear fellow, we are the =I=

D: the only way to not get destoryed, is to sacrifice MILLIONS OF RIVITS TO THE RIVIT GODS!!!

Rogue Wolves wrote:Oh no! They are taking over!!! I claim heresy =][= must come at once!

shasolenzabi wrote:My dear fellow, we are the =][=

Just when you thought you knew who to turn to!

Horse rivets look good after all!

yeah shaso! join the movement!

Rawson wrote:

Viktor von Domm wrote:and if that wasn´t enough for one update...the league...count me in...in fact if you dont feel the need for changing something...maybe a tad more in the brassy sector of the scheme...but i show the flag immediately if you allow....^^

I like your zeal! Here is another option I worked up after Eziekiel (Thanks, btw, EZ!) gave me a good banner tip.

your most welcome!

You are a riviting GOOD AMONGST RIVETLESS men ...... uve inspired me to also ADD a ton of rivits...you can never have too many rivits.

all i have do to is get a new drill piece and some 0.25 mm plastic rods...:S but i shall previal thanks to your ingenuity, loving the looks of your tank by the way !!!!
cant wait to see how the rest comes along !!!!

.....are you going to consider the baneblade for riviting goodieness ???


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And the horse looks rivtacular, you should consider if the rider should have rivets on his vest ??? to fit in with the theme ??


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May i be as bold as to ask to join those of the Mighty riveters

Eziekiel wrote: all i have do to is get a new drill piece and some 0.25 mm plastic rods...:S but i shall previal thanks to your ingenuity, loving the looks of your tank by the way !!!!

Thanks for the compliment! Careful on the units there, EZ. I was using .025 inch rod which equals ~.65mm. I use a 1mm drill bit, but the extra diameter doesn't turn out so bad. Nothing that won't go away with some paint.

Eziekiel wrote:are you going to consider the baneblade for riviting goodieness ???

Not at the moment. The Baneblade was what inspired the extra rivets for the Leman Russes. However, riveting is quite contagious, so you never know what might happen

Eziekiel wrote:And the horse looks rivtacular, you should consider if the rider should have rivets on his vest ??? to fit in with the theme ??

Thanks! I hadn't thought of adding rivets to the roughriders, but it's something to think about...

Eziekiel wrote:May i be as bold as to ask to join those of the Mighty riveters

Well, we have to convene the League to admit initiates to the highly exclusive Lambda Epsilon Rho fraternity but, all it really takes is a zealous passion or obsession (not to point fingers at Vik) for riveting, so get that project going! (You know what they say, "If there aren't pictures, it never happened")

Rawson wrote:Hello again!

So here's what I worked last night. I had been thinking about the attached airborne unit (see above post) and have worked up some troopers for the veteran squad.

I play Vostroyans (obviously) but I had some standard guardsmen bits lying around from HWSs and such.

I wanted them to be armed with something other than the traditional lasgun, and this is what I came up with (though I want to give some credit to Axlbush for the inspiration ).


Trooper 1


Trooper 2

What do you guys think? Opinions about the attached airborne unit and ogryns above also wanted! Is anybody out there?

Cheers,
Rawson

composition of this autogun please? which components do you mix it with lasrifle?

Very good stuff!!

@lone cat: the auttorifle seems to be done basically replacing the central part of the rifle with a bolt pistol

but from which kits do these boltpistols come from?

IG Cadian Command or Smurfs?

punkow wrote:Very good stuff!!

Thanks! Feel free to stick around

Lone Cat wrote:composition of this autogun please? which components do you mix it with lasrifle?

I'm glad you like it! Feel free to pilfer the idea Punkow is right. It's a standard SM boltpistol. Some of them are from extra assault marine arms that I had around and some of them are the loose bits from different SM sprues.

could you please do a dimension check of this rifle and the following boltpistols
- Cadian command
- New codex Assault marines
- New codex Space Marines tactical squad

Hey Rawson, finally crawled through your blog. I'll definitely keep myself updated here! Awesome work, all the Vostroyans are looking ace. Great to see someone else chugging through a significantly metal army, although you're a lot further into yours than I am with mine I think.

Enjoy your riveting

Found this thread while -stalking- following dsteingass and Viktor von Domm around Dakka, they seem to find the best threads.

Your Ogryn conversions are amazing! I *really* like them. They project such brutish power and aggression, very well done.

And rivets. Rivets rivets rivets. I shall earn my way into the LoER someday!

you are talked of already skalk... your obvious love for rivets has reached our spheres...we need to discuss it and then you hear from us...^^

and Eziekiel ... show us an example of rivetmania and you are in to this circle... i think it all depends on the riveted look of your chimera your working on atm...

Caught up with da thread.
I love the riveting of the tank! And the horse, thou I would cut&replace some of her limbs with awesome mek stuff Maybe even add a saddle mounted lazcanon on side...
What? I'm serious! This never hurts to have some extra speed and firepower!

lol... riveting frankenstein ...

Or a horse with a sidecar!

Vik, you started the "Rivet Revolution"

dsteingass wrote:Or a horse with a sidecar!

A horse with a side pony.. Mechanical pony.. Armed with a "Fork of Thuth" pattern tri-beam lazez...

at shaso... we need all sorts^^

man i am cracking up, i am having pics in my mind of a horse with a sidecar pony attached...the fork i am deliberatly not envisioning^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:the fork i am deliberatly not envisioning^^

Weakling!

wow...now that was a .... wait for it............................














low blow.... er...

No offence meant, Vik =) Just kidding
but seriously - do not limit your imagination for our sake!

it is the first rule of creativity that every thing goes... but there are certain aspects to it that i feel not priviliged enough to explore...namly horse forks...as much as i see the challenge there...lol... but i will revere you for your prowess for executiung these ideas by yourself^^ go on^^

LOL

HAHAHA!

Seriously though.


Source: http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_nov2007/VWSideCar.htm

As sadly as it is, the pony will have to wait. I have to much WIPs already. My grot clanky tank is second on the list after orcs. And to think about it - there is much in common with this pony... *mumble, mumble*

HAHA, I was just goofin.

only a pony or a true stallion...oh i went there again^^

Looks like this thread is going to be hijacked by... ponies?

Ponies stand vigilante!


Fro Ponies!!!

This pony definitely needs more rivets

at least it has suitable armor...even shoulder pads^^

A truescale model indeed

ah... now i see those powerpack exhausts too! that whole pony schtick has yet escaped me... with only boys at home i never had the urge to get into the pony thing...

You're a lucky man!

yeah up until now anyway^^

well this thread went from Vostroyans, to rivets, to... Space Ponys, what an interesting time we are having

yeah we are living in the last days... repent!

That's what happens when you sleep little and take too much medicine...

lol... no medicine... but lack of sleep on a dayly basis...

Viktor von Domm wrote:yeah we are living in the last days... repent!

HAHAHA!

..and the four riveted horsemen of the Apocalypse rode forth and slew those who were unbelievers in rivets.

HALT! I COMMAND ALL OF YOU! STOP IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR!
Did you guys really just take up a whole page with talks of space ponies?
I guess I can't be too offended, I sort of started it with the whole horse rivets thing...

Lone Cat wrote:could you please do a dimension check of this rifle and the following boltpistols
- Cadian command
- New codex Assault marines
- New codex Space Marines tactical squad

Here you are, Cat:

The two on the left are the type that I used. I don't have a bolt pistol from the Cadian Command, but the one on the top right is from the Chimera sprue I think. And the standard issue guard lasgun as well.

Zefig wrote:Hey Rawson, finally crawled through your blog. I'll definitely keep myself updated here! Awesome work, all the Vostroyans are looking ace. Great to see someone else chugging through a significantly metal army, although you're a lot further into yours than I am with mine I think.

Enjoy your riveting

Thanks, Zefig! Hope you enjoy your stay!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Found this thread while -stalking- following dsteingass and Viktor von Domm around Dakka, they seem to find the best threads.

Your Ogryn conversions are amazing! I *really* like them. They project such brutish power and aggression, very well done.

And rivets. Rivets rivets rivets. I shall earn my way into the LoER someday!

Skalk! Welcome, and thanks for the compliments! It's true, the LoER is a noble goal, but I'm sure you'll make it

storag wrote:Caught up with da thread.
I love the riveting of the tank! And the horse, thou I would cut&replace some of her limbs with awesome mek stuff Maybe even add a saddle mounted lazcanon on side...
What? I'm serious! This never hurts to have some extra speed and firepower!

Thanks, storag, but let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here

And, finally, something back on topic:
And then there were two!


Thanks for looking everyone!
Rawson

a much needed back on topic update, and i dont think ive stated this but for tanks the rivets are a great idea to spice up the blank spaces, and it fits with the Vost. look, and the "rivets" on your horses works nice it makes it look more like a real saddle and also again fills in some blank spots

This is the sort of obsession I am talking about! Totally badass Rawson!

like...a bolt through yon forehead will keep you from sinning ever again...^^ *thuddd*

Rogue Wolves wrote:a much needed back on topic update, and i dont think ive stated this but for tanks the rivets are a great idea to spice up the blank spaces, and it fits with the Vost. look, and the "rivets" on your horses works nice it makes it look more like a real saddle and also again fills in some blank spots

Thanks, Rogue Wolves! As the goal was to give a little lovin' to the blank spaces, I'm glad that it's having that effect!


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dsteingass wrote:..and the four riveted horsemen of the Apocalypse rode forth and slew those who were unbelievers in rivets.

I have a terrible feeling that this will become the motto of the LoER...

Rawson wrote: Thanks, Rogue Wolves! As the goal was to give a little lovin' to the blank spaces, I'm glad that it's having that effect!

That's all we are doing with the talk, loving the blank pages

it is sir! one thing you could do is either freehand some designs or put a flag on the back like on this picture - http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/241750-.html


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but a Vostoryian-ified flag

talk about the second ballsy action! cool you must be very concentrated when doing that! by the way... those fule barrels on the back... are they intended to stay black?


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lol... i suggested just that pic to shaso to make one for his command tank^^

dsteingass wrote:

Rawson wrote: Thanks, Rogue Wolves! As the goal was to give a little lovin' to the blank spaces, I'm glad that it's having that effect!

That's all we are doing with the talk, loving the blank pages

Except that your jibber jabber was less than (dare I say) riveting

Rogue Wolves wrote:it is sir! one thing you could do is either freehand some designs or put a flag on the back like on this picture - http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/241750-.html but a Vostoryian-ified flag

I do need to spice up these tanks a bit. It's always interesting to come back to something you haven't worked on in a while. They will certainly get the obligatory Vostroyan red markings. We'll have to see what happens after that.


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I can't keep up with the rate of posting!

Viktor von Domm wrote:talk about the second ballsy action! cool you must be very concentrated when doing that! by the way... those fule barrels on the back... are they intended to stay black?

Well, the first turned out well, so I figured two is better than one No, the fuel tanks will get some paint (they're just waiting in line). I'm kind of excited to get to painting the twins now. I've been working on Petr Ychenko for so long, I need a break.

sounds good rawson, and vik that is an amzing thread and im sure ive seen all two of you guys on there before

While we're talking about spicing up the tanks, what do you guys think about a barrel swap?

If it's going to happen, now's the time to do it...

toatlly do that rawson! i have too thought about that way for my own tanks too... if you have those bitz then do it... there is no middle gear!!!

yep klaus is special... too bad he has somehow been lost to dakka now... didn´t post for at least two months now...
have you seen his own blog... man this is not art anymore this is beyond...


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oh by the way... from what kit are those conon barrels?

Yes! Klaus' steam airship has really come along!
I REALLY like that Empire Cannon idea!
But the BIG question is, where will you cut them??

best idea is for me to cut after the red ring...or even better the brass ring after the red one... thus you only have to replace the last bit of long barrel... and you could hide pretty well all seams underneath the big "red" rings...

that seems perfect for your vost i say go all in!

Rawson wrote:

Lone Cat wrote:could you please do a dimension check of this rifle and the following boltpistols
- Cadian command
- New codex Assault marines
- New codex Space Marines tactical squad

Here you are, Cat:

The two on the left are the type that I used. I don't have a bolt pistol from the Cadian Command, but the one on the top right is from the Chimera sprue I think. And the standard issue guard lasgun as well.

Thanks for looking everyone!

good. this way. I could buy a pile of boltpistols from SM players or just buy Tactical marines (and assault ones) and take bolt pistols,
the rests could be sold to some SM fans. (Guardsmen don't use power armor and heavy boltguns anyways meow)

=^.^=

Can't you just cut down a regular bolter, re-add the barrel just past the magazine and have bolt pistols-plenty?

well the bolter would be a bit longer since the bolt pistol is the box of the gun and the las part is the barrel

dsteingass wrote:I REALLY like that Empire Cannon idea!

Rogue Wolves wrote:that seems perfect for your vost i say go all in!

Viktor von Domm wrote:toatlly do that rawson! i have too thought about that way for my own tanks too... if you have those bitz then do it... there is no middle gear!!!
oh by the way... from what kit are those conon barrels?

"No middle gear" I like that They are Empire great Cannons. I'm using the chassis for my HWTs, so I had the actual cannon bits left over.

dsteingass wrote:But the BIG question is, where will you cut them??

Viktor von Domm wrote:best idea is for me to cut after the red ring...or even better the brass ring after the red one... thus you only have to replace the last bit of long barrel... and you could hide pretty well all seams underneath the big "red" rings...

Here's how I'm thinking I'll do it. Cut off the existing barrel behind the first gold ring. Cut off the rounded butt of the cannon and "Voila!" It's a bit longer than the standard Battle Cannon, but I think it's okay. This is also how I did the Command tank (if you check out the pic on pg. 1)

Thoughts?

Lone Cat wrote:good. this way. I could buy a pile of boltpistols from SM players or just buy Tactical marines (and assault ones) and take bolt pistols,
the rests could be sold to some SM fans. (Guardsmen don't use power armor and heavy boltguns anyways meow)

Give it a go!

dsteingass wrote:Can't you just cut down a regular bolter, re-add the barrel just past the magazine and have bolt pistols-plenty?

The magazine is longer on a bolter and you wouldn't have the sight on it, but other than that it's pretty similar.

I got the Vendetta mostly primed today. I've known that I was running low on primer for a while now, and of course I chose today to prime a big piece. I hate it when I do stupid things.

just had a quick review on your command tank...and i say yeah... thats goodlooking like heck! totally go for that look all the way through... and i now realize that the chassis of your HWTs...i think the concepts of your army are very sound!

also i actually like a longer magazine on a autogun...somehow it is a kind of nod to the M16 and the AK47 or for that matter the STG43... all great weapons in their time and i think the forefathers of an autogun...

I hate it when I do stupid things.

lol... i do too many stupid thing s in hobby... story of hobbylife...i treat the hobby as a constant learning process...too bad i started on ground level^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:just had a quick review on your command tank...and i say yeah... thats goodlooking like heck! totally go for that look all the way through... and i now realize that the chassis of your HWTs...i think the concepts of your army are very sound!

Thanks, Vik! It seems that the cannon swap has gotten unanimous approval. Dakka has spoken!

Viktor von Domm wrote: i actually like a longer magazine on a autogun...

I was thinking that myself after I did the comparison. I might mock up a few just to see what they look like.

one day i want to do me some magazines by myself...cast them ...somehow i would like some catachans or other minis with straps and bags ful of mags...or even strain spent ones lying on the ground...i have these images in my mind about that...

Rawson wrote:I got the Vendetta mostly primed today. I've known that I was running low on primer for a while now, and of course I chose today to prime a big piece. I hate it when I do stupid things.

Upon closer inspection, the Vendetta's prime job was not as bad as expected.

Here she is in all of her unpainted glory

So, herein lies the question. How the heck should I paint this thing?

Here's a reminder of the melta vets that ride in it.

The current scheme is darkish grey fatigues with black armor and orange visors (though I'm not so far into the painting that a change would be impossible)

I was kind of thinking two tone: black on top, grey on bottom with an orange OSL cockpit. Thoughts?

er... one question tho... they are not asociated with your vostroyans? seems i missed a cetral point there... otherwise i´d say go for the vostroyan vehicle scheme...

if they are a different force...well the scheme sounds a bit too dark to me... it would make sense but on the table for such a huge thing it could look a bit boring maybe? i dunno... the black will be seen mostly so you wont get that much contrast on the table...not much details do be seen then... at least a grey on top for my opinion and a brighter one for the underside... orange OSL as reflecting like the visors of your droptroops would be interresting to see...or skip what i said just mkow and make grey higlights all over...too on the soldiers...as their carpace armor need some depth...

Viktor von Domm wrote:er... one question tho... they are not asociated with your vostroyans? seems i missed a cetral point there...

Yeah, that was back on page three or something. I didn't think the Vendetta really meshed with the Vostroyan feel, so I decided to do an attached airborne unit.

Viktor von Domm wrote:well the scheme sounds a bit too dark to me... it would make sense but on the table for such a huge thing it could look a bit boring maybe? i dunno... the black will be seen mostly so you wont get that much contrast on the table...not much details do be seen then... at least a grey on top for my opinion and a brighter one for the underside... orange OSL as reflecting like the visors of your droptroops would be interresting to see...

Could always do grey with black markings and orange OSL.

Viktor von Domm wrote:or skip what i said just mkow and make grey higlights all over...too on the soldiers...as their carpace armor need some depth...

Yes, they need some more work for sure. I'm not quite sure how to go about highlighting the shoulder plates. They curve in two directions and have no easy trim like SMs. Any help in that area would be MUCH appreciated.

They look like a squad of Snake Eyes the GI JOE

that´s true dstein, maybe you could dwell on that and use some old GI joe designs for your markings on the valk then...

as for highliting... i would drybrush all over the mini...with the same color of your cloth... it is brighter than black and would not ruin the cloth thus as it is the same color... then i would fill a bit the bigger spaces of the armor and you are done with them highlights... then maybe a wash on the cloth again and you are done...



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will follow this tomorrow as i am now *yawn* you know^^

cheers, vik

dsteingass wrote:They look like a squad of Snake Eyes the GI JOE

I'll take that as a compliment. Silent and deadly are pretty good traits to have for a vets squad

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for highliting... i would drybrush all over the mini...with the same color of your cloth... it is brighter than black and would not ruin the cloth thus as it is the same color... then i would fill a bit the bigger spaces of the armor and you are done with them highlights... then maybe a wash on the cloth again and you are done...

Not sure if I'm following you. The fatigues are fortress grey with a badab black wash (which darkens them up quite a bit). So you're thinking to drybrush the armor with a dark grey color instead of traditional highlighting?

The barrels switch is a good idea , i think it will look cool. Nice work on those melta boys and your new sig!

Viktor von Domm wrote:that´s true dstein, maybe you could dwell on that and use some old GI joe designs for your markings on the valk then...

If you look reallly close on my Marauder Destroyer, on the engine cowls I used little NO STEP decals a-la-GI Joe

neil101 wrote:The barrels switch is a good idea , i think it will look cool. Nice work on those melta boys and your new sig!

Thanks, neil! I've been trimming up the cannons this evening since everyone is so pumped about them. Should have some time tomorrow to get some work done... I hope

dsteingass wrote:If you look reallly close on my Marauder Destroyer, on the engine cowls I used little NO STEP decals a-la-GI Joe

Pretty sure the "NO STEP" is a-la Real Life Aircraft (Though I do think it's the little things like NO STEP that really make a model great!)

P.S. Green with envy of the MD...

Looks like Vostroyans will benefit from this kind of barrel swap more than any other army due to their baroque theme.

For the highlight by drybrush over whole model - I'm no expert on painting but I saw this kind of thing done several times and I wont recommend it, as drybrush place paint in a form of thin dust-like layer, very fragile to interference making it hard to paint anything above. And model then looks dusty.
Seeing the way you paint I'm sure you are aware of this but just in case..

I need to get at least one Valk, then i will have the ability to call it a "Hind" and use it with designation MiL-280 as we are in the 41st millenium for 40k, and keeping with my theme.

valks are so much fun to build/paint plus a very nice space for freehand work

Rogue Wolves wrote:valks are so much fun to build/paint plus a very nice space for freehand work

I have to do that for nose art!

oh yea it is a must, and depending on what type of army ive seen many things on the wings, from lighting to well, wings

Here she is in all of her unpainted glory

So, herein lies the question. How the heck should I paint this thing?

Why not do the Valk in the same colour scheme as the tanks? It would tie in nicely with your army. Assuming that the vehicles were pre-painted en masse aboard some Imperial Navy Troop Carrier for some specific mission it would stand to reason that the Valks would probably get painted at the same time in the same camouflage scheme. After they were finished then the flight crew and groundcrew (weapons specialists, mechanics etc who all come under the auspices of the Adeptus Mechanicum but will be imbued, doubtless, with the Vostroyan spirit and ethos) would probably add to the colour scheme, for instance brass trim and fittings to weapons, aquillas etc as well as warning notices and markings all to appease the Machine Spirit of the vehicles.
Pardon the long explanation but I couldn't bring myself to say "paint them the same colour scheme as the tanks, it would look cool!"

no, drybrushing is but the first step... i thought drybrush first as a form of highlighting and then refill up to a point the black armor with blackness^^ and you have the highlights still...i know it is difficult to describe but i thi8nk this way you could get away with it as you have a highlight mathcing color aver all the fatigues ...so kind of blending the armor to the cloth...

am i making myself clear here? translator please^^

I repainted mine at least 3 times, I couldn't get the camo right. I finally decided on just straight green with the "teef" on the nose.

with the speed a valk should be moving i think a camo is not needed... more like flat tones and then you are done...scary pics of course build up morale or iduce fear^^

The camo pattern would only be useful to conceal the outline from the air when parked.

but i guess thats when camo netting comes in...

camo on valks really only works if you can get it perfect, if it just looks like blobs of green in an attemt to camo, it dosent work that well

Rogue Wolves wrote:camo on valks really only works if you can get it perfect, if it just looks like blobs of green in an attemt to camo, it dosent work that well

That's exactly why mine is all green lol

mine too!!

Well, gentlemen. I'm off to frosty Sweden tomorrow for work and won't be back until Tuesday night. The Vostroyans won't get any love until then. You all will just have to wait

tststs... waiting is such a overrated vitue...

I like Swedish Fish.

i thought it was better to talk abou elks...my brother once got bitten by an elk...

bitten by an elk? never heard of that. i wonder if they have swedish fish in sweden cause that candy is awsome

Be sure to see the løveli lakes

For my Valk i used the main colour as my tanks ? mayby you could work the same magic of painting you have done before and try it on the Vandetta??? or just do one of the paint schemes of the elysian troopers vandettas ?? and make all those inverted rivets the other way around ?

Eziekiel wrote:For my Valk i used the main colour as my tanks ? mayby you could work the same magic of painting you have done before and try it on the Vandetta??? or just do one of the paint schemes of the elysian troopers vandettas ?? and make all those inverted rivets the other way around ?

Thinking like that will attract the attention of the =]_= ! Be warned!

rofl... the wrath is upon ye^^ better repent and rivet like a madman now...

call 1-800-League =]_=, Confessors are standing by!

well if confession does indeed shows signs of impurity of too few rivets only purging may be an option...

Break out the holy riveter guns!

Thought for the Day: Your life is counted only as a single rivet on the Golden Throne.

dsteingass wrote:Thought for the Day: Your life is counted only as a single rivet on the Golden Throne.

Nice one!

well if i think about it that´s pretty yucky... imagine this being a rivet on the throne of a living corpse...this might actually bring you a step closer to the choas gods... nurgle for one...talk about taking a dump...

dsteingass wrote:Thought for the Day: Your life is counted only as a single rivet on the Golden Throne.

According to fact, that there's just an uncounted amount of lives all over the Imperium, there should be... OMGBILLIONS of rivets on the Golden Throne!

see, this insight brings you one step closer to a lifetime membership in the leaque of extraordinary riveters...it is but only a religious deed out of respect to the emperor...on his golden throne...

man you guys like your rivets, to have conversations about rivets and still finding things to talk about rivets

well rivets ARE the talk of the season now... and forever really^^

C'mon Rogue, name one thing that looks cooler than rivets?

ok this was meant to be answered by rogues but i have a certain something in my mind... soft and cushy... sweet even....

If GW is to be believed, I think that'd be skulls.

Maybe if you made....skull-shaped rivets.......*mumble mumble*

wouldn´t that be a bit too brutal even for the grim dark... after all you have to heat´em up and then bolt those rivets together to mend things... to hammer on a nice skully...*shudders*

common a riveted marshmellow would look awsome! i was more thinking maybie a cat, although that could look cool as well. AH HA breakfast cereal wouldnt look cool with rivets!

actually there are some cookie like cereals out there here in germany that look like riveted ones^^ and do yourself a favor and search for riveted marshmallows...

more specific cereal would be frosted flakes wouldnt look as good as a cookie with rivets

granted^^

Canadian Maple cookies are my absolute favorite! They would be religious if they had rivets.

just when searching for your cookies i found this...:

canada is still one of the few places i would imigrate too...that or ireland^^

the only reason why i would move to canada is that there are more model shops up there and it snows unlike CA philly was better...

somehow from what i saw and heard on tv it sounds like a nice place to be living in... though it might be due to the harsh contrast you get inbetween U.S and canda...some canada seems peacefull...

i have never met any canadian who wasnt abnormaly nice, but i doubt its all like that

do you suspect some secret hidden agenda in canada? like dark and evil magic rituals being held there....

yes, THEY ARE BRINGING CAREBEARS TO LIFE AHHHHHH

yeah but! they kill them in the dozens with cartman and his cronies...

you tought you feared the Carebears! well now that you killed them you cannot stop the nurgle spread that is canada! I WILL NEVER ACCEPT YOUR "BACON" NEVAA

whoa... no you crossed a line... bacon is nice...yummy to say the least.... now you made me hungry....argh...

bacon IS amazing which is why i wont accept canadian bacon!...man now im thinking of the bacon wrapped meatloaf i had on sunday.... what a great weekend i spent it all at GW then came home to a baconloaf

now that IS utterly cruel... if it wasn´t for our conversation across the whole board i would be sound asleep... now i have to raid the fridge it seems...

haha im not going to my fridge im going for some oatmeal rasin cookies!

was that resin? good chewing i say!

my bad raisin, spelling and speed typing ist my strong suit and if i still spelled it wrong it is sun dried grapes and starts with an R in english

No, not a maple-shaped cookie cutter, maple-shaped cookies that taste like maple syrup with maple cream filling!


OMG those kick ass with a fresh creme soda or rootbeer.

omg i HAVE to try some!!!!

Look at the grocery store in the cookie isle. I only ever had them when a visitor from our Toronto office visited and brought a bunch to share. Stumbled on the things by accident in my local Meijer.

i'll have to look sounds AWSOME

Well, I hate to get off topic but I thought I'd share a funny interaction with you all:

Rawson: I've been thinking about selling my Space Wolves.
Mrs. Rawson: Because those aren't the guys you're working on now, right?
Rawson: Right. I'm working on the...
Mrs. Rawson: Wait! Don't tell me...Vostroyans?
Rawson: Yes!
Mrs. Rawson: First was Space Marines. Then the Space Wolves...
Rawson: Who are also Space Marines.
Mrs. Rawson: But they're different, right?
Rawson: Right!
Mrs. Rawson: ...and now Vostroyans.
Rawson: I love you.

Awesome! I'm usually muttering measurements or talking to myself at my bench anyways, but If I mutter "damn I need more torsos" she asks "oh, do you need another box?
and then I respond with the same thing you did!

fooled ya! lol... of course i know what raisin´s are^^ thought the pun with resin and raisin was quite apropriate on a forum for plastic toys^^

well i had the discussion sadly the other way around... my wife looked very sternly me in the eye as i told her i want to built an IG army instead of completing my SM earthangles... but dear you already have an army... why do you need another one..., me: because SM are for kiddies..., she:....

at dstein... i guess this means she is a keeper?^^ lol

It's the one thing you do need for this hobby is an understanding, supportive spouse you can tell your missus loves you when she manages to stay awake and focussed on you while you give her a blow by blow account of your latest battle ("and then I re-rolled for my leadership and got another two 6's!! Can you believe it?") or how you are going to win the next one by putting twin linked lascannons on your Predator and get your revenge on those ruddy Traitor Guard for shooting your lovely, much loved, much caressed Blood Angels to pieces!! You gotta love this game for giving your lass reasons to keep loving you!

sounds like heaven to me^^

Hee hee mine barely tolerates the hobby, although appreciates me not going out and getting drunk watching football (soccer for you yanks) every saturday afternoon...

do you recall what I was saying a few posts ago about understanding spouses? Well, this may be my last post on this site for a while as I have just spilt almost a whole bottle of liquid poly cement on the laminate floor in the kitchen and I'm pretty sure that, even if you can get wifi in the local hospital, my hands won't be able to work aPC!! If I'm lucky the smell wll have vanished before she gets back from yoga HELP!!

RIP

i think he meant rest in pieces...er... with all that glue you probably stay in one piece though so that is something positive to look forward too^^

might not feel any pain; I'm slightly stoned on the fumes!! I'm hoping the combination of post yoga relaxation and a hot bath and ambient lighting might soften the blow Keep your fingers crossed (I'll keep my legs crossed )

ambient lighting

sounds like you blew out some lamps in the accidential spilling of the cement too...ohoh... i think you are about to get some trashing spouses style.... the pursing of the lips... the folding of the arms... the tapping of the feet .... waily , waily, waily...

Best of luck with that Butchy!

Lame, non-picture update from me tonight. The laptop is getting fixed, so all I have is the iPod.

Worked on the twin tanks some more. I have the rivets cleaned up with a base coat of paint on them. I had to replace about 10 or 12 of them that came off during the trim and clean process, but that's acceptable. The new battle cannons are inplace, and I must say, I'm loving them. Can't wait to show you all!

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

ah.... i nearly forgott all about the new canons due to the utterly blown up OT...^^

I live!! I live!! and looking forward to thon pics of the new battle cannons
and thanks for the sympathy Viktor

wasn´t sympathy.... sometimes it is uplifting to see when someone gets the treatment and not one self^^ mostly it is me that gets the trashing.... "why do this new shirt of yours that i gave you has pva stains on...." so it is helpful that other s have the same problems^^

HAHAHA! Thank God plastic glue doesn't stick to vinyl! woot!

wow last i checked we where on cookies, now onto glue stains, sounds like a party

sticky parteeeee

that is wrong on sooo many levels AND I LIKE IT!

no... just no... i had a good reperteeeee^^ hehe... but i wont bring that one forth...

my answer would have involved a sandwich and it would get too complicated after that... so good catch i dind´t mention my thoughts...eh?

well that depends, what is on the sandwich?

depends... on what is holding it...

if there is a bratwurst involved in some way, then im in!

somehow i think we move this metaphor way to far...

it went too far a few comments ago...

wtf thats awsome, where did that come from!

Vik, your sheep need moar rivets.

hahaha

only the one above...the other one is done for... so i wont ruin fresh rivets on a wasted sheep... and rawson is the one to aply rivets to the living...me i only do it to your shoes or other ppes bum...not sheeps... in fact what i really do is keep away from ever trying to rivet a sheep... somehow that would make me cringe... and we can´t have that... would only create a peeline with them rivets all going outa line...there is such a thing called precision and stly e of course too.... so there are two things... precision and style..and don´t let me begin on ethics...as this would make it three already and three is a crowd.... and that is by parliamt statues not permited.....

man you guys and your rivets...

i think it is only a compensation... what for i have probably suppressed....

come on vik is that 3 inapropriate refrences in the past couple hours!

inapropriate refrences for what? am i suppressing again?

i honestly have no idea what to say so i'll say this "&7 and then a Q @ bg w3"

i guess we both can meat in the middle there... what a good synthesis...

Well, I'm back from Sweden and also have my laptop back form the shop (the shop being my buddy who is wicked smart with computers and hooks me up for free). So, here's what I've been working on:



New battle cannons in place, and I think they turned out rather well. I'd like to work on these tanks for a while and get them finished, but that means coming up with some color choices for a few things.

1) Fuel Tanks. I'm thinking the same khaki color with boltgun trim, but I'm open to ideas.
2) Sponson Heavy Bolters. Could do all boltgun, but I think that would be a bit drab. Maybe Khaki with some Vostroyan red stripes? (and boltgun trim, of course)
3) Speaking of Vostroyan red stripes: Hull, turret, or both?
4) Lascannon recoil thingy. It's currently black, and I have no ideas. So far all of my ideas have included khaki, so maybe some more of that...
5) Track trim: currently a black line on the side of the tanks. Again with the no ideas thing...
6) Stowage tarp (you can see it on the top tank on the rear of the left trackguard). I'm thinking either olive drab or khaki with some washes.

Any input here would be most appreciated.

I've still got the rivet repairs to make, but I cleaned the rest of them up a lot today. I'm pretty happy with how the weathering turned out on the base for my commander. I think I'll try that technique again on the twins when we get to that point. I think the micron pen will also come in handy with doing some unit markings, names, and such.

Thanks for looking,
Rawson

They look really good, Rawson. And you have some good ideas there. I would suggest;
1. Oil tanks; same colour as rest of tank but with boltgun metal straps to hold them in place
2. Boltguns: khaki with red stripes and a brass trim
3. lascannon recoild buffer (or damper, if you prefer) leave it black but paint a line of brass around each ring
4. track trim: red
5. turrets and hulls: vostroyan red numbering and lettering with a mix of regimental/squadron/troop markings (plenty of references for these online especially from WWII. Make them big and bold, easy enough to be seen through the fog of battle from inside a tank)
6: weathering (which I know you wll be planning on doing) particularly around the hatches where the crew enter and exit the tank. Also around the engine hatches and fuel tanks from the crew carrying out maintenance and refueling
7: personal gear: each vehicle crew will stow their gear differently (you've started that already by having a hammer stowed on one vehicle on the same place another has it's shovel) so mix it up a little, personalise each vehicle (I'm planning on doing something similar with my Elysian STYLED Sentinels....but don't know what yet
keep up tyhe good work, you're efforts are inspiring

there is little i could add here... butchy has had all the good ideas ninjad^^

only thing i could add is an air recognition sign on the tracks cover... because iirc you too have a flyer.... so that would make sense...

5. turrets and hulls: vostroyan red numbering and lettering with a mix of regimental/squadron/troop markings (plenty of references for these online especially from WWII. Make them big and bold, easy enough to be seen through the fog of battle from inside a tank)

maybe add then a thin highlight of gold to the numbers for a bit of poshness that would suit the vostroyans

and did i say the tanks look gorgeous...well... they do^^

loving the tanks rawson, especialy new barrels! and i would do what i stated before and what ^ just said, add an air recognition sign, like the flag on santa not claus's blog

tho i think a banner/flag would be a nice addition i can´t see a place big enough for that...also if the PVA soaked tissue would be used as a methide... it´s bumpiness would ruin this stainless flat surface of the tank...which i really like here...i really like the creaminess of that color...

you gotta good point there but i think that the flag would give a nice place to add some more colors, like more red

that is true... he could do an actual free hanging banner... billowing due to the wind... how about that?...

sounds good enough, it should break up all that lovely cream

which is in fact the best surface to a tank i have ever seen... and no mistake...so i am biased a bit to let him break it up...or weather or number it ...

theres no doubt that its a great color, but if it was left plain the tank would seem unrealistic

500 posts and 16000 views! Thanks for all of the support the Firstborn are getting! Although, I would like to personally invite all of you lurkers to leave a post (even if it's just to say "Hi" )

Butchy, Vik, and RW: Thanks for all of your input! I mean it! It is inexplicably useful to get a second (third and fourth) opinion about anything that I'm doing. I'm also glad that I can get some on topic comments when the time comes

Lots of real work to do today, so probably not a lot of warhammering, but we'll see.

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

Hi







Ah, and the new barrels are just a perfect choice for the Vostroyans tanks.
The guys above already written all the good advices, so nothing to add, realy.

your welcom rawson! i only come to your thread to feed off of ideas (:

ishkatar wrote:Hi

Touche

ishkatar wrote:Ah, and the new barrels are just a perfect choice for the Vostroyans tanks.
The guys above already written all the good advices, so nothing to add, realy.

Thanks, ishkatar!

Rogue Wolves wrote:your welcom rawson! i only come to your thread to feed off of ideas (:

You mean to say you don't come here purely to gaze upon the wonders that are my creations?

um...hi...*goes on with lurking*

Viktor von Domm wrote:um...hi...*goes on with lurking*

Yeah, Vik. It was you I was most worried about with the lurking about, not making any comments. Here is a brief summary of your "lurking"

Viktor von Domm wrote:i wont ruin fresh rivets on a wasted sheep...

Viktor von Domm wrote:my answer would have involved a sandwich and it would get too complicated after that...

Viktor von Domm wrote: "why do this new shirt of yours that i gave you has pva stains on...."

Viktor von Domm wrote:with all that glue you probably stay in one piece though so that is something positive to look forward too^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:bacon is nice...yummy to say the least.... now you made me hungry....

Viktor von Domm wrote:do you suspect some secret hidden agenda in canada? like dark and evil magic rituals being held there....

And my personal favorite:

Viktor von Domm wrote:

Our Vik would make an excellent side kick-in an extremely awkward and seriously dangerous situation, methinks especially if he brought some of these badboys with him

http://www.tunnock.co.uk/teacake.html

i think vik could be an interesting addition to the Ambiguosly Gay Deuo!

gents... i am a father of two sound sons and a husband to a gorgeous wife...so no, you have to find some atractive partners for you on your own... i am out of the fishing pond so stop flirting with me!


nuff said!

vik

what if i gave you a nickle? its amaaarican money!!

lol...what with the dollar being on the current level i probably would be more tempted with a different currency^^

"Hong Kong Dollar, Indian Cents, English Pounds and Eskimo Pence"?

i´d say: gold, land, amo...whatever you have atm^^

What going on here? I disappear for a while and when i return, i'm greeted not by some kick ass Ruski sh-t kickers, but by a general trans-continental love in! Jealous..... :-)

Anyhoo, whats your current project?

Axlbush wrote:What going on here?

I honestly have no idea...

Axlbush wrote:Anyhoo, whats your current project?

Well, here's the latest. Painted the fuel tanks, sponson bolters, drilled the barrels (still have the exhaust to do), and started some detailing.

I'm looking forward to unit markings and weathering!

Thanks for looking!

Rawson

Looking tres bon, mon ami. They're going to look a treat when your done

having recently had a discussion on a different thread i read about steampunking up some barrels by means of using chaosy muzzles...the ones choas uses for bolters and such likes... i bet there are even ones for canons...? that could be a nice addition to your tanks as well... maybe not for the main guns...but certainly for the bolters and lascanons...

i think those could work well, nice idea vik

i too have mused over these bits as well...

Never thought of chaos barrels as steampunk , but it does fit very well.

welll some of them certainly give a bit of posh feel to the models...

I'll try not to make a habit out of non-picture updates, but sometimes the pictures just don't turn out. Maybe I should get one of these daylight bulbs that everyone keeps talking about...

Anyway, here's what I did tonight:

Went to the FLGS for a friendly game of 40k, but everyone was too terrified of the mean ol' Space Wolves, so I chatted for a while, checked out "Scourge the Heretic", and pawed through the bits box for an hour and a half (phew!). Came home to start painting.

Finished Petr Ychenko (I think). There were a few little things that I'd been putting off and I finally took the time to finish up. Baring any CC from you all, I think he's completed!

Painted more on the twins. I think I've finished base coating (though I keep finding spots that need another coat) and started highlighting. As for the posh-ifying the tanks, I found the aforementioned chaos bits, and it just wasn't working for me. Thanks for the idea's though. Keep them coming!

Sorry for the lack of photo documentation: I'll take some good pics tomorrow in the daylight.

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

Yes Rawson, you need
MOAR DAYLIGHT BULBS!

Went to the FLGS for a friendly game of 40k

Was it GW in Copenhagen? It's tiny wee, isn't it? Was in there last month for a nose around and thought "I've been in bigger phone boxes!", though I'm sure that the lads in there do a grand job


Finished Petr Ychenko (I think). There were a few little things that I'd been putting off and I finally took the time to finish up. Baring any CC from you all, I think he's completed!

Yippee!! Lemme see, lemme seee!!

dsteingass wrote: Yes Rawson, you need
MOAR DAYLIGHT BULBS!

But I have so much riveting to do!

butchyboy73 wrote:Was it GW in Copenhagen? It's tiny wee, isn't it? Was in there last month for a nose around and thought "I've been in bigger phone boxes!", though I'm sure that the lads in there do a grand job

Naw, it's like you said: "tiny wee". I went to Emperor's Pride. I guess it's more of a FLGClub than FLGS. You were in CPH and didn't say "Hello?"

butchyboy73 wrote:

Rawson wrote:Finished Petr Ychenko (I think). There were a few little things that I'd been putting off and I finally took the time to finish up. Baring any CC from you all, I think he's completed!

Yippee!! Lemme see, lemme seee!!

Okay! Okay! I just got up! Give me a minute

Yep its daylight now .. no more excuses ;-)

neil101 wrote:Yep its daylight now .. no more excuses ;-)

Shoot, you noticed...

Alright, alright. I'm getting on it...

here in berlin, where i live we have in the 50km distance three GW shops... all resemble a phonebox allright... i don´t understand why GW never opens up a shop in my more accesible area...that bothers me substantial...

and i definatly think an update is needed for your Petr Ychenko !!!

butchyboy73 wrote:Yippee!! Lemme see, lemme seee!!

neil101 wrote:its daylight now .. no more excuses ;-)

Viktor von Domm wrote:I definatly think an update is needed for your Petr Ychenko !!!

Alright, gentlemen: I present to you the final (I hope) version of Sergeant Petr Ychenko!

Front


Good shot of the OSL


Rear


I washed the hilt of the combat knife, tidied up some of the highlights on his boots and pouch, added some highlighting on his jacket, and added a bit of weathering on his armor.

As much as I feel that I am finished with the model, the whole reason I keep joining these painting compititions is to push myself, so: Any last bits of CC?

Thanks for the support, guys!
Rawson

yup... got some thoughts here for you...:

the backpack is a bit (acording from the zoomable pics) flat looking... care to give us greedy bunch some highlights there? also i spotted a hair on this very backpack...

but other than that...i only ahev to aplaud! the heft of the knife is looking way better now!

oh and a hair is on his left side pouch too... if you zoom in you see it pointing downwards...i really hate hairs no on bodies or brushges so this always kind a creeps me out... phobia of mine...^^

Is that a hair? I thought he was supplementing his rations; yes, I thought it was.....<wait for it> a rabbit...ho ho ho! geddit? hare..rabbit..ahem ,anyhoo, yep I was in Copenhagen back at the beginning of September but beneath this rough, boisterous, noise-some, loud mouthed shnook-type exterior I'm actually very shy and retiring so I thought I'd leave you in peace to get on with your painting etc

Viktor, do GW still have a shop under the Euro Centre in Berlin? I thought that was a decent sized one. Does it still have the life size Space Marine outside it? I seem to remember one at the far end of Karl Marx Allee near Lichtenberg, that looked quite small but I reckon if you have 3 GW shops in Berlin the gaming must be fairly healthy over there.

So, Petyr, apart from needing a shave ("Get a haircut soldier!") looks pretty damn good, well done Rawson

hey mate you are very good informed... in fact the one in the euro centre is better sized among the shops... but for some reason i am only ever drawn there by chance... if i am to do some shopping i go to the one in lichtenberg... you are quite the globetrotter butchy^^
the second one is indeed in potsdam... a smaller city near to berlin...for americans and other helicopter propelled nations i think this is only a small drop...but for me it means a 1.5 hour drive in the public transport... so not likley to be of choce for some gaming in the nearer future^^
that one in lichtenberg is tho really a shoebox... but the shop is always nicley filled...and if it weren´t for the pushy nature of the team there quite a nice bunch of peeps there too...

oh now i get it...hair...hare...no..er..do..no...whut? lol... but still nice punny^^


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oh by the way.. yep that life sized doll is still there... last time i was there they had a BIG...even HUGE terrain of a fully insde viewable necron monolith or something similar in one of their windows... a tad messy done but still impressive...

Got friends in Berlin and in Copenhagen and, when I do my sightseeing bit I always like to pop into the local GW just to have a look see at the modles on display etc

well always good to know^^ there models by the way are fairly decent looking... i even come there with my kids to show them...imagine a father and two kids standing gawping at the window...each of them^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:w...imagine a father and two kids standing gawping at the window...each of them^^

yeah, Pop's gawping in the window and kids gawping at Pop's, one will be thinking "for goodness sake Father (I'm presuming they are well educated and well brought up ) you're starting to drool again!" whilst the other's thought's will be along the lines of "Here we go, it'll be a long spiel about rivets next!!"
As a doting Dad, I can empathise with you, I got into this wargaming through my son and now he doesn't play it (though he has 3 rather large armies; Orks, Chaos and Eldar. Most of which yours truly painted, oh how us father's suffer !! ) and we spent many an afternoon at the GW in Newcastle, not to mention a couple of trips to GW in Nottingham so I think it's nice that you take your kids to GW and share a moment

yep... strictly only for the kids... the things we parents have to suffer for the needs of the kids...after all the hobby does have such good educational sides to it... training hand to eye coordination...social skills training in frustration management and of course there is the whole mathematical side to it too... the list is endless... and that is why a good parent has to endure...yeah right^^ in all honesty... my kids are 5 and 3 years old, but both of them are even now in this age yearning for their own army... well the five year old will eventually get a a customized arbites force... and the smaller one i am not sure... i hve thought maybe i create him a sprue robot army for starters...the plastic crack definatly has them already...

butchyboy73 wrote: we spent many an afternoon at the GW in Newcastle

Is that where they make Newcastle Brown Ale? That stuff is the best!

Ahh, but I know for a fact, that the GW in Castleton, IN is the SECOND smallest GW in the world!

Vik, at what age will you give your boys their very first X-acto knife?

Rawson wrote:

butchyboy73 wrote: we spent many an afternoon at the GW in Newcastle

Is that where they make Newcastle Brown Ale? That stuff is the best!

T'is indeed Rawson, you've got good taste t'is brewed there and t'is indeed awesome. We're experiencing a bit of an ale rennaisance here in the UK, there are lots of little breweries producing bottled gems and putting the big brewers to shame but Newcastle Brown Ale (or Newkie Broon Ale as it's better known over here) manages to cover both bases. I know of one decent boozer in Copenhagen that stock decent guest ales including, if my memory serves me well, Newkie Broon.
Anyway, these Vostryoans, what's their favourite tipple? Petyr looks like he enjoys a Broon or two before potting enemies of the Emperor, would that be the case?


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dsteingass wrote:Ahh, but I know for a fact, that the GW in Castleton, IN is the SECOND smallest GW in the world!
is it a kiosk?