DijnsK wrote:@ Victor von Domm
Basic colors schemes usually work best! And these are comp generated, the painters skill canals them totally awesome.
of course you are right!... but i thougt he wanted to grasp this oportunity to come up with something fresh and shiney... and i hope rawson didn´t took my comment as offensive... as i love the scheme he choose for his vostroyans!
Rogue Wolves wrote:that astropath looks awsome! and as i state every time, i really love the commissar!
DijnsK wrote:Love your work! awesome conversions!
ghostmaker wrote:Looking great keep up the awesome work !
dsteingass wrote:I absolutely LOVE the commissar head/hat..total epicness!
lone dirty dog wrote:Commissar eagles are looking perfect love the little eagle top job mate, the pack simple but nice job.
neil101 wrote:wonderful work on the commissar mate , and the creepy astropath.
Thanks, guys! I appreciate the encouragement!
butchyboy73 wrote:I like the astropath but I think the folds on his robe are letting him downa bit. A look at other robed figures, I'm thinking Dark Angels here, might help you visualize how the fabric of the robe would fall around his legs (assuming he has legs )
Galorn wrote:I think the problem with the astropath is that the robe has too many pleats in it...
dsteingass wrote:yeah...it should be layers rather than ripples.
lone dirty dog wrote:Astropath needs a little variation in the creases that might help, less is more sometimes if you get my gist
Seems like everyone is in agreement. I guess I need to scare up a different reference pic and have another go. Thanks for the input!
J-paint wrote:Out of the three I quite like last one, I must admit a great deal of thought hasn't gone into my opinions but the DC=wulfen is very compelling. Always loved the wulfen models alot, but the opportunities for conversion are immense.
Looking forwards to see what you decide on here, all three have great potential.
Thanks, J-paint!
Viktor von Domm wrote:hmmm... pretty basic schemes all around....not really anything offensive but also not really something that strikes my fancy... sorry mate... got anything else up your sleave? some lil twist? to make them a bit more unique?...
and your motivation sounds good...
Hmm, I don't really have anything else. I hope I can just you with my mad painting skills
DijnsK wrote:Basic colors schemes usually work best! And these are comp generated, the painters skill canals them totally awesome.
I hope you're right, DijnsK!
butchyboy73 wrote:Ref the Space Wolves based army (I used have one in 4th Edition <sighs> ) I like the centre one and the idea of a bike based, fast attack army (I'm planning something similar with my Raven Guard). Look forward to seeing how they develop
lone dirty dog wrote:Cant wait for the update ……. have you seen the preview of the new tank kit Maxmini is working on I think it might fit your scheme nicely
Viktor von Domm wrote:aye...that looks very vostroyan to me too...
kenshin620 wrote:Apparently they are making a Gothic KV2 tank
What scale though? A 28mm KV Tank would still look kinda pitiful vs anything in 40k. Guess they might stretch out the proportions or make it closer to 1/48 or even 1/35
Kinda wished that the turret was surrounded more by the tank chassis itself. Seems to me like it just sticks up waiting to get slammed in the face with something awful.
Catching up and checking in. Really like the Astropath, and the Commissar is excellent! I *really* like what you are doing w/ both of those. Excellent work as always.
Hey man long time no see. Good to see small updates I really think that tank turret would look awesome for your vosts. As to the sw thing eh, I sm not really sure where to go. I really like the white scar take on them. Since the scars have a mongol feel to them you could always do crazy oriental stuff with them and maybe add horses or something. Really haven't gave this a lot of thought. Any way it's gonna look good no matter what you decide, on the bright side revamping minis is an awesome way to see how far you have come as a painter.
hey rawson,
thought i'd check up on you to see how your ladies are doing. hope all is well with you. do you know when your going to have time to post your guys or is it still on hold?
alabamaheretic wrote:hey rawson,
thought i'd check up on you to see how your ladies are doing. hope all is well with you. do you know when your going to have time to post your guys or is it still on hold?
Thanks for checking in, Bama! The ladies are doing well and I find myself having to resist the "overly-excited-parent" urges to inform the whole world about the little things she does (e.g. she rolled over for the first time this morning!) For me it's , for everyone else it's .
The Firstborn are still on hold, though I am collecting the bits to make my two hydras (especially now that GW released a bunch more flyers ). I was growing a bit tired of that project, and the Diversionary Space Wolves didn't really grab my attention, so I'm cooking up a new project. Stay tuned for that!
dude thats really cool she rolled over!
yea i know about needing a diversion, have you tried making some small pieces of terrain? thats a good diversion.
congratz to the first rollover... my kids both used to be very nimble when it comes to keep their head up and looking at the world... they used to lay on their tummies and kept their heads for minutes up and looked this way out of their pram... peeps were very surprised to see them peeking out of that^^
Ghost in the Darkness wrote:I can't seem to find it but what is your paint recipe and steps for your tanks?
Primer black (kind of a pain, but I think it's worth it)
Dheneb Stone Foundation ( leaving black in the recesses)
Kommando Khaki
Bleached Bone highlight
lone dirty dog wrote:I was just wondering but did the commissar ever get a coat of paint its just areal shame not to see the finished concept.
I was so looking forward to this being finished
Not yet I still have a bit if GSing to do. I'm actually on holiday in the states now, so no hobbying to be had at all for the time being (unless you count reading the new rulebook, which I picked up today )
Well, I'm back from a holiday in the States and have (almost) finished moving into a new apartment. The jetlag is providing me with a few hours of modeling time, since I should be sleeping but feel like I just drank a redbull.
I spent some time looking at bits and models for a second Medusa crewman. I have some ideas; we'll see where that goes.
I ended up working on the autocannons for one of the Hydra flak tanks that I want to build. I cleaned up the mold lines and switched the magazines for the left side cannons. Next month (read=after I get my paycheck ) I'll pick up a Manticore to use for the base of the hydra.
Don't worry, the Commissar isn't dead. I just need some better light to work on sculpting (also the reason for the crappy pics). The astropath isn't dead either, incase anyone was missing him
Not a lot to comment on yet, but I'd love to hear any thoughts or ideas out there.
wellcome back mate! how did you do that amo switch? i need to know... the design of the autocannon is still one of the favorites of GW weaponry so far! and a hdry done this way would be a cool thing indeed...
Automatically Appended Next Post: oh, and with all those flyers out there probably high in demand anyway^^
Sorry in advance for the terrible pics, I don't have my work lamp set up yet.
Viktor von Domm wrote:how did you do that amo switch? i need to know... the design of the autocannon is still one of the favorites of GW weaponry so far! and a hdry done this way would be a cool thing indeed...
I'm glad you like it! I'm excited to build it
It isn't so difficult, but you have to take your time to get the cut right. First you carefully cut off the part of the ammo drum that is sculpted to the AC flush with the top of the gun (see yellow line) Then attach the drum that you removed from the gun to the normal ACHWT drum (the part that comes seperate from the gun. Remove the hand crank on the left side of the gun. Glue the now 3/4 ammo drum to the left side of the AC, and voila!
The finished product looks like this from the top!
This is what I worked on today: the artillery officer for the Medusa I had a heck of a time picking out the right hands/arms to hold this baby Lots of GSing left to do, but I'm pretty happy with him!
well... many thanks for that instanty provided step by step! i think that will come in hand soon enough...!!!
and where did you get that spy-glass from?
and i can feel your pain here... so many wielding something hands for right arms out there... but don´t we look for empty hands most of the time? it really is most troublesome!!!...and good looking mini there...will he be the "spotter" for the manticore/hydra tank? i think i need to nick that idea... tho for that purpose i still have an old dwarven telescope on a tripod... couldn´t find a pic tho...
Viktor von Domm wrote:that one?
looks very cool...now i need to see if it´s available as a bit...
Yes, that one. I removed the smaller top scope, and all of the mounting hardware on the bottom. I also cut out the comet section as the overall length of the telescope was too long, but I wanted the semi-curved lens appearance.
It is available as a bit (that's how I got it ). I can't remember the name of the company off the top of my head, but I can find it for you if you're interested.
That is great! I'm going to have to have a try at that! I've been cutting up plasticard recently so I have plenty of smaller bitz that would work awesome fort that.
Artillery officer is looking nice Rawson, I'm impressed you've got that telescope to fit, not the easiest hand to put things in really. As the others here I'm looking forwards to seeing more of the commissar and astropath when you get some time and better lighting.
Rogue Wolves wrote:the medusa officer looks cool so far rawson!
dsteingass wrote:That's cool Rawson!
J-paint wrote:Artillery officer is looking nice Rawson, I'm impressed you've got that telescope to fit, not the easiest hand to put things in really. As the others here I'm looking forwards to seeing more of the commissar and astropath when you get some time and better lighting.
Thanks, guys!
dsteingass wrote:I started something similar, but sort of got stumped at the housing/body part of it, never finished it.
Thanks for the pics, Dave! Now I'm contemplating stealing your AC alignment Seems there's a crux to every cool project
Well, I'm back from a week of work in Sweden and have gotten paid in the mean time Here's what I got/did today:
The Manticore is such a beastly model! I love it! If I could find some extra Manticore front ends, I would redo all my Chimera chassis vehicles! (Ok, maybe I would just think about it... )
I'm still working on how to set up the ACs. One thing is for sure though: the barrels need to be lengthened.
You have your standard over-under (this version with mirrored ACs opposed to stacked)
Or I've been playing around with this concept: a more low slung, horizontal pattern.
the second version has a more gangsta style to it... i think for your straight as a ruler thinking vostroyans the standard version is more apropriate...
Viktor von Domm wrote:the second version has a more gangsta style to it... i think for your straight as a ruler thinking vostroyans the standard version is more apropriate...
Fair enough. One vote for standard.
lone dirty dog wrote:Nice twist to a normal lay out, originality makes your army unique
So is that a vote for the "gangsta" version?
lone dirty dog wrote:Now where is the commissar
I know I know. I have project ADD... I'm sure he'll get done sooner rather than later...
Your work is absolutely stunning. I love the Airborne troopers and your innovative Autogun conversions.
Also, Petr and his little background story was rather cool! ...In addition, Marbo is also, extremely cool!
I admire your GS work and your merging of both 40k and WHFB minifigures and bits ... and somehow, it works!
lone dirty dog wrote:It is he just looked so dam bad ass that he deserved a paint job to match
Haha, thanks LDD! I promise I'll get some work done on him soon
Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote: Your work is absolutely stunning. I love the Airborne troopers and your innovative Autogun conversions.
Also, Petr and his little background story was rather cool! ...In addition, Marbo is also, extremely cool!
I admire your GS work and your merging of both 40k and WHFB minifigures and bits ... and somehow, it works!
Keep it up my friend! I can't wait to see more!
Wow! Thanks for your kind words! It seems that you have gone through a number of pages in a short period of time
dsteingass wrote:I vote standard, it would be hard to get all the tracers to meet at the same point in the sky IMHO with the second configuration.
Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:I agree that the standard configuration is more practical. I've fired a handgun "gangsta' before, and the movies you see it in are complete hoaxes.
dsteingass wrote:Yep, they busted "gangsta" and "John Wu" shooting on Mythbusters too
Viktor von Domm wrote:saw that too!!! and it is totally bonkers... you wont even hit a big door..
I guess that settles it. I certainly hope the Hydra can hit a barn door
Rawson wrote:
I'm still working on how to set up the ACs. One thing is for sure though: the barrels need to be lengthened.
....
Let me know if you guys have any grand ideas
Okay so I thought long and hard about how to make the hydra autocannons only using the stock autocannons. Here is a quick shot. There should be some more in my gallery or on my blog.
Spoiler:
Its a very simple conversion. Pretty much all you do is level out the autocannons so that they can sit flush on top of one another. On the relevant side you will need to cut away the 'empty' ammo tube that is attached to the gun. Next grab a few of the ammo cases and glue them onto the sides as you did above. Repeat for another set, except this time glue the ammo cases to the other side of the autocannon. Greenstuff up any gaps and you have yourself two sets of hydra autocannons.
i say: me likey too... but how? where will you get these muzzels from? and if you´d be living next door to me i would even encourage you more because then i would try to persuade you in giving me those then obsolete muzzles of the AC...
and skalk... tho horribly done... i gotta agree... that would look very cool...^^
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Barksdale, That is an awesome-looking build dood! I just MAY steal that for a halftrack idea I've had for a long time. I think you just gave me the idea I was fumbling for!
Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Horrible attempt from Paint, but it conveys they idea:
I think it would look very cool.
Well done, sir! I hadn't looked at the FW Hydra for some time now; I'm actually quite glad that you posted it, as it will be a big help in bulking up the ACs
Viktor von Domm wrote:i say: me likey too... but how? where will you get these muzzels from? and if you´d be living next door to me i would even encourage you more because then i would try to persuade you in giving me those then obsolete muzzles of the AC...
"How" truely is the question. I'm not really sure yet, but I will figure something out. I think it will be an addition to the existing barrels rather than making them obsolete, tho. Sorry, Vik
i would look for really tiny caps of felt pens... the merest tip might work here... or you could go for PC rods... and use a pencil sharper to get it coneshaped...OR... just GS them...that will be no big deal i think for you...
Viktor von Domm wrote:i would look for really tiny caps of felt pens... the merest tip might work here... or you could go for PC rods... and use a pencil sharper to get it coneshaped...OR... just GS them...that will be no big deal i think for you...
That's my first plan: start looking around for something that would work. It's a bit too regular of a shape to do in GS (at least for me )
dsteingass wrote:I hear rumor that the Guard are getting a new plastic Hydra kit soon!
Always happens to me. As soon as I get the nerve to do my scratch built Thunderbolt, that's when they'll got through with the plastic one, too
Not a lot of work done today, but I was digging through my bits box to see what I could find. I whipped up a fancy little MSPaint pic to show off my results.
First priority was to find something to increase the overall length of the cannon. I think a section of the HW Missle Launcher works pretty good!
Second was to find something to recreate the feel of the WWII German flak cannonbarrel. I found two possibilites, neither of which I'm very happy with. The heavy stubber and hull flamer both have the correct shape, but the scale is wrong for my Hydra.
Anyways, any great ideas or CC would certainly be welcome
hmmm.... i think the look of the third one is best... the muzzle is rather to the point with the extra detail...
tho a thought just appeared....why not do the muzzle in multiple layers of holepunched PC? you could to it in 5 or more layers getting ever smaller ... then if you are feeling like that...you could smooth the sides with filler and sand them down... tho i bet it would look cool with that stairway look to it too...
OR... you could use a small rod of styrene and use a pencil sharper and shape it acrodingly...
That is awesome! But the flared barrel doesn't look right. The cone needs to extend from the barrel circumference out, The vented bit needs to go, I'd just replace the whole barrel from the support up if I were you.
Rawson, for extending the barrels, I found this and thisquite good for some ideas. Not to say the ML won't work, but I think these are a wee bit easier.
Yeah, if you wanted to do this, then I'm sure you could find a plastic kit. Perhaps a bofors gun?
In general, though, what you're proposing is going to be VERY difficult to make from scratch. I'd rather go with a more conventional barrel than something that was too difficult to execute. I guess I'm just rather conservative that way...
Viktor von Domm wrote:OR... you could use a small rod of styrene and use a pencil sharper and shape it acrodingly...
The pencil sharpener is a pretty good idea, Vik! I may end up using that
dsteingass wrote:That is awesome! But the flared barrel doesn't look right. The cone needs to extend from the barrel circumference out, The vented bit needs to go, I'd just replace the whole barrel from the support up if I were you.
Barksdale wrote:Rawson, for extending the barrels, I found this and thisquite good for some ideas. Not to say the ML won't work, but I think these are a wee bit easier.
Perhaps easier, but I think the proportions get a bit off when you just make a long barrel and leave the rest the same size
lone dirty dog wrote:Why don't you just buy some WW2 barrels instead for the ends, you can get a good selection on line
I looked, but couldn't find any. If you've got a link I'd be interested
Ailaros wrote:Yeah, if you wanted to do this, then I'm sure you could find a plastic kit. Perhaps a bofors gun?
In general, though, what you're proposing is going to be VERY difficult to make from scratch. I'd rather go with a more conventional barrel than something that was too difficult to execute. I guess I'm just rather conservative that way...
dsteingass wrote:No waay, it's super-simple man, just plastic tube and a flared bit of some kind glued together.
I think I'm with Dave on this one. The scratch build doesn't seem so bad (though finding that perfect bit is always better in my book )
I put the hydra aside for the moment, and got out an old favorite.
The only major thing I have left is the GS work on his left boot, but I'm not sure what I want to put there. I was thinking "JUSTICE", but I don't think it will fit well. I thought about "TERRA", but the likelyhood of him coming from there was slim. Another aquila, but that seemed a bit repetative. Any good ideas?
Since I was a standstill, I started digging out bits for his base. I'd like to give him a bit of elevation for an imposing feel and have a few options lined up. What to you guys like?
My two favorites are the eldar piece and the fuel drum, but I'm open to other thoughts.
I worked on the artillery officer a bit, but I'm not happy yet, so no pics yet.
I like the fuel drum idea, one thing I've found is when you put race specific things on the base, you have to continue that theme throughout the army to achieve a coherent look. (ie more eldar things on bases) That's just my opinion anyway. I love the model.
Love the commissar looking the dogs bollix Maybe some simple beading design on the other side, I would not go over board as it might look to busy, it look sway to good to ruin it
I will look for a link mate I saw one the other day, just have to remember it now
I agree with prototype_x don't go with race related scenery ties you down to much.
the fuel drom and that metal piece on the far right are my favorite choices...
but io have another issue about the commissar... i would like you to consider biggerizing the front piece of the cap...dunno the right word... the thingy that protects the eyes from the sun?... could do with a bit more length...
as for the other boot... i think we all know the answer to that one... probably in the end it will be another skull^^
I think the metal bar structure, on the far right, looks quite nice for basing.
As for the GS, how about adding the word "Repent"?
I still can't comprehend the innovative design of the Commissar!
Kudos to you my friend!
prototype_X wrote:I like the fuel drum idea, one thing I've found is when you put race specific things on the base, you have to continue that theme throughout the army to achieve a coherent look. (ie more eldar things on bases) That's just my opinion anyway. I love the model.
Thanks, prototype_X! I know what you mean with the race bases. I like a little bit of story behind the characters reflected on their bases (the whole reason I'm adding a commissar is that a mostly decimated striking scorpion squad beat my combined squad in CC then caught them in a sweeping advance), but perhaps that particular eldar scrap is a bit too overt.
Rogue Wolves wrote:I LOVE that commissar Rawson I think I need to copy that conversion, I also think the fuel drum would be the best choice for the elivation
Thanks, RW! Another vote for the fuel drum.
lone dirty dog wrote:Love the commissar looking the dogs bollix Maybe some simple beading design on the other side, I would not go over board as it might look to busy, it look sway to good to ruin it
I will look for a link mate I saw one the other day, just have to remember it now
I agree with prototype_x don't go with race related scenery ties you down to much.
Dogs bollix? I hope that's a good thing
Viktor von Domm wrote:
the fuel drom and that metal piece on the far right are my favorite choices...
but io have another issue about the commissar... i would like you to consider biggerizing the front piece of the cap...dunno the right word... the thingy that protects the eyes from the sun?... could do with a bit more length...
as for the other boot... i think we all know the answer to that one... probably in the end it will be another skull^^
+1 fuel drum, and a vote for the beam. I totally see what you mean about the brim of the cap. Now it will bug me and I'll probably be forced to fix it As for the skull, I could do the winged IG version. It would fit nicely, I think: Not too asymetrical, or repetative, and makes sense fluff wise...
Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:I think the metal bar structure, on the far right, looks quite nice for basing.
As for the GS, how about adding the word "Repent"?
I still can't comprehend the innovative design of the Commissar!
Kudos to you my friend!
A vote for the drum and one for the beam. I'm seeing a pattern emerge. I think "Repent" is a bit more on the Inquisition side (though that thought showed me what a cool inquisitor the witchhunter model would make ) Thanks for you comments!
I hope to work on him some tonight (but don't hold your breath, I helped a friend tear down a wall yesterday, and I'm pretty busted )
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes in the UK the dogs Bollixes is a good thing, I really don't know why but it always has meant that Maybe next time I will just say it looks great
A more robust knowledge of British slang was an unexpected benefit of the hours I spend on Dakka...
neil101 wrote:The flak gun is great.
Thank you, sir!
Dakka_Dok wrote:How about a crux on the other boot?
Now there's an interesting idea. Does the crux have another meaning other than terminator honors?
Here's what I got up to tonight:
I went with the fuel drum, but I went for the horizontal cut rather than the vertical because of the commissars feet. They looked quite strange perched on a curved surface. Do you think it's too high now? He quite towers over regular troopers now, which isn't so great with the new sniper rules
actually rawson i hope the glue is not cured on the fuel drum... it looks fishy to me... probably not what you initially wanted it to be... i think the pose of yon commissar needs not that raised base at all... if you rescult the peak and the cap of his hat i think you are set... the fuel drum however should go away... my 2 cents here tho...
as for the artillery officer i wonder if it would be possible for you to sculpt the thumbs surrounding the scope rather than pressing from both sides... i dunno if you ever saw a baby holding a milkbottle... for heavy things they tend to hold it with flat hands... a bit like your officer does...
The MoO looks mint! Very oldschool with the long scope. The commissar, on the other hand, I am not a fan of. I understand that you want to raise him up a bit, but standing on the fuel drum just doesn't say 'authority' for me.
MoO looks great, and I love your commissar, but I say if you decide to keep the barrel, I'd lower it down a bit to make it seem like he walked on it and not climbed
Oh, that Commissar looks BRILLIANT! The basing definitely works -although the barrel is a bit high- and it'll probably look better once it has been texture and painted. Have you decided what will go on the boot yet? I see what you mean about "Repent". Too Inquisitor-ish. You could try a laurel wreath or a skull. Looking forward to more!
Viktor von Domm wrote:actually rawson i hope the glue is not cured on the fuel drum... it looks fishy to me... probably not what you initially wanted it to be... i think the pose of yon commissar needs not that raised base at all... if you rescult the peak and the cap of his hat i think you are set... the fuel drum however should go away... my 2 cents here tho...
Not glued at all, which is good because everyone thought it looked terrible I'll come up with something else. Don't worry, the brim is on my list of things to do
Barksdale wrote:The commissar, on the other hand, I am not a fan of. I understand that you want to raise him up a bit, but standing on the fuel drum just doesn't say 'authority' for me.
So is it the barrel that you're not a fan of, or the commissar as a whole? At least the barrel is going.
Rogue Wolves wrote:I love your commissar, but I say if you decide to keep the barrel, I'd lower it down a bit to make it seem like he walked on it and not climbed
Thanks, RW! I think the barrel is getting canned
Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:Oh, that Commissar looks BRILLIANT!
The basing definitely works -although the barrel is a bit high- and it'll probably look better once it has been texture and painted.
Have you decided what will go on the boot yet? I see what you mean about "Repent". Too Inquisitor-ish.
You could try a laurel wreath or a skull.
Looking forward to more!
Thanks, Joshua! Laurel wreath sounds cool, and could even be symmetrical to the wings on the other side. You may be onto something here, my friend
Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the artillery officer i wonder if it would be possible for you to sculpt the thumbs surrounding the scope rather than pressing from both sides... i dunno if you ever saw a baby holding a milkbottle... for heavy things they tend to hold it with flat hands... a bit like your officer does...
I was thinking about that right thumb already. Bit of a problem, isn't it.
Barksdale wrote:The MoO looks mint! Very oldschool with the long scope.
Rogue Wolves wrote:MoO looks great,
Thanks, guys!
Today is my day off , so I'm hoping to get some sculpting in. Maybe another update tonight
lone dirty dog wrote:Well, everything has been covered the barrel has to go looks way wrong sorry but honesty is the best policy plus ruins a great looking mini.
Maybe a little re sculpt on the hands of the artillery officer, however like the way it s going nice idea I like the sound of the laurels on the boot
I'd rather have the input now than later! I've been thinking about how to do the laurels, I think that would be cool
Barksdale wrote:The commissar, on the other hand, I am not a fan of. I understand that you want to raise him up a bit, but standing on the fuel drum just doesn't say 'authority' for me.
So is it the barrel that you're not a fan of, or the commissar as a whole? At least the barrel is going.
Yeah, that didn't come out properly. The quartermaster mini itself is gorgeous. As others have said, it is the barrel that looks odd! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
lone dirty dog wrote:Well, everything has been covered the barrel has to go looks way wrong sorry but honesty is the best policy plus ruins a great looking mini.
Maybe a little re sculpt on the hands of the artillery officer, however like the way it s going nice idea I like the sound of the laurels on the boot
I'd rather have the input now than later! I've been thinking about how to do the laurels, I think that would be cool
I find when sculpting look at ways of breaking down the design, you might have to do it in stages but if you get a better finish that way it is worth it
As for the commissar how about some kind of ornate platform structure with maybe a chaos emblem (or what race / faction you want ) to give him the hight at a slight angle of course so it looks like it has been destroyed
Barksdale wrote:Yeah, that didn't come out properly. The quartermaster mini itself is gorgeous. As others have said, it is the barrel that looks odd! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
Haha! Thanks, man
lone dirty dog wrote:I find when sculpting look at ways of breaking down the design, you might have to do it in stages but if you get a better finish that way it is worth it
As for the commissar how about some kind of ornate platform structure with maybe a chaos emblem (or what race / faction you want ) to give him the hight at a slight angle of course so it looks like it has been destroyed
We're back to the drawing board on the base. We'll see what comes up.
Alright, Vik. Here's that new brim:
I did some other random Failcast patching, so pretty much the boot is all that's left.
The cap front does look better good call on that whoever it was I think the base should give him a sense of dominance and stature, maybe along the lines of a fallen statue or building of importance.
Obviously only a segment of the statue or building though
Rogue Wolves wrote:I dont know if I told you this.. but I LOVE this model!
Once or twice, but you can always say it again
Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Commissar looks excellent. I don't have anything to offer other than that.
Thanks, mate!
lone dirty dog wrote:The cap front does look better good call on that whoever it was
It was Vik, and thanks!
Viktor von Domm wrote:
yes.... much better looking...
I'm glad you approve
Viktor von Domm wrote:the laurel idea... hmmm... a good one... tho one twig or a ring of laurels???
About like so
lone dirty dog wrote:I think the base should give him a sense of dominance and stature, maybe along the lines of a fallen statue or building of importance.
Obviously only a segment of the statue or building though
prototype_X wrote:Maybe some broken, fallen stairs? That would look cool!
Thanks for all of the great ideas! Here's what I came up with, gents:
It isn't glued yet (I wasn't taking any chances after the barrel fiasco ) It would need some weathering, bend corners and such, but you get the idea.
well at the very least this base now is worthy for a riveteer^^... how will it affect the mini? will it stand lopsided then? i like the look... but the combination will only tell...
Oh, yeah the Laurel idea! Glad I could be of assistance... Imho, I think the base looks a lot better, and once it is weathered and whatnot, it should look good.
Can't wait for the next update!
Viktor von Domm wrote:well at the very least this base now is worthy for a riveteer^^... how will it affect the mini? will it stand lopsided then? i like the look... but the combination will only tell...
and the laurel...full win on this one... !!!
I'm planning on propping up the back end a bit so he won't be on too much of an incline. And thanks for the laurels comment
Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:Oh, yeah the Laurel idea! Glad I could be of assistance... Imho, I think the base looks a lot better, and once it is weathered and whatnot, it should look good.
Can't wait for the next update!
Thanks Josh! Keep those ideas coming!
Rogue Wolves wrote:I definatly like this base! All I think you should do is put one of those tank aquillas on there to make it seem imperial
tank aquila is too big, but adding a bit of detail somewhere would be good. I'll see what I can do
prototype_X wrote:I agree with the above statements, Looks stunning
Thanks, X!
Progress will most likely be slow but steady. Doc says I have a viral respiratory infection. Not a bit deal (not even any meds to take), and I'm taking off work since it's contagious, but I feel slow and tired.
ouch... get better soon... but now you have some extra time with your lil lady too^^ how is she doing anyway? can she already turn around on her own?
as for the base... the incline issue... you could solve this with a bit of cheating... maybe you sort of could do a bit of an indent where the commissar would be standing? bruised and battered metal would be thus then convincing even more...
lone dirty dog wrote:sorry to hear your not well hope you feel better soon. I have a similar condition, my misses gets tired of me and thinks I am slow
Rogue Wolves wrote:Hope you get well soon rawson!
Viktor von Domm wrote:ouch... get better soon...
Thanks for the well-wishes!
Viktor von Domm wrote:but now you have some extra time with your lil lady too^^ how is she doing anyway? can she already turn around on her own?
Baby Stuff, for those interested
Spoiler:
She's starting to move around a bit, enough that we need to be careful at least She can roll from her stomach to her back (but not visa versa), can sit up from a semi-reclining position, and push with her legs to scoot a bit. It's pretty cool
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, looks good so far but some kind of detail would be cool
Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the base... the incline issue... you could solve this with a bit of cheating... maybe you sort of could do a bit of an indent where the commissar would be standing? bruised and battered metal would be thus then convincing even more...
Here's what I came up with: I finished the laurels, weathered up the metal, and added the cable on the left side. The sprue in the back holds it up at the right angle, so I'll have to figure out how to make it look right...
Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:That's better! It looks much more fitting. Can't wait to see him painted! Are you going with the traditional Commissar colours or something different?
Thanks, Josh! Traditional colorscheme, unless you have any great ideas up your sleve
weetyskemian44 wrote:A lot of really subtle and well executed green stuff and conversions in this blog. I love it.
Thanks for your encouragement and for stopping by!
Switched gears: back to the Hydra.
Did a mock up of the long barreled autocannons: Just needs a bit of GS and plasticard and it will be finished. I quite like the look of them
Scale Shot: Much better than the stock HWTACs. Not quite as big as the FW Hydra, but good enough in my book.
Of course, there always has to be a problem: with the new manticore front end (did I mention that I love it?) on the hydra, the top hatch obscures the LOS if the ACs are tight to the instrument cluster and at 0 degree angle.
That means we would have to bring them out to about here: That would require some bulking up of the gun housing, which isn't a bad thing in itself as the concept of the hydra is quite bulky: Thoughts, input, genius ideas? Really could use some CC on this one...
the commissar now looks fit for painting in my opinion... the base is perfect...it was the right decision to look for something else... and you did find the proper details then...
the hydra... well there are some gaps and details that need to be filled to obscure the look of the rocketlauncher look... then it should work...
as for the mentioned problem... why not assemble the barrels in an asymetric look all four on the one side that is not blocked in a 0 degree angle? so all four on the left side of the turret? with the side benefit to have a hatch on top of the turret?
as for the babytalk:
Spoiler:
stomach to back rolls are possible because of the heavy weight of the head... it hampers atm the backrolling but this will soon happen too... suddenly you will see her rolling around like a log^^
my tip is if you are already makeing your flat baby secure.... search the kitchen.... place the tupperwear and such things that don´t get brocken and aren´t hazardous to her in the lower regions of the cupboards...eventually she will be able to open them anyway no matter how clever you think YOU are...then she can play with that stuff... easy to get back inside the cupboard again and she will be quite often and long in the kitchen too anyway... it is quite remarkable thing why lil kids get drawn to the kitchen all by themselves...magic place mabye
The commissar's base looks MUCH better. Some sort of rotating turret for the hydra would be a little better. That way you can have both horizontal and vertical motion rather than strictly up and down.
Viktor von Domm wrote:the commissar now looks fit for painting in my opinion... the base is perfect...it was the right decision to look for something else... and you did find the proper details then...
weetyskemian44 wrote:Love those little gs wings on his shoes, they are so very very small.
Barksdale wrote:The commissar's base looks MUCH better.
Sageheart wrote:That commissar is great, the second base is much better.
Thanks, guys! Just a few last little GS details and he'll be ready!
Barksdale wrote: Some sort of rotating turret for the hydra would be a little better. That way you can have both horizontal and vertical motion rather than strictly up and down.
Sageheart wrote:The Hydra kinda needs a rotating turret, how else could it shoot down flyers? not really sure how you would make it though haha,
maybe take the chimera top and arch it up a bit, making it took like it can move up and down?
You guys don't ask for much, do you? I had thought about that earlier, but had settled for the appearance of horizontal mobility: there certainly is room back there. I couldn't figure out a way to do it and keep the cool manticore launch system. I'm planning on keeping the launch assembly seperate from the chassis just in case someone gets all rules-lawyer-y on my (though I think they changed the "if the model can't physically do it, it can't do it" rule in 6e). Not quite sure what you were suggesting, Sageheart, though not for lack of desire. Having horizontal mobility would be awesome!
Viktor von Domm wrote:the hydra... well there are some gaps and details that need to be filled to obscure the look of the rocketlauncher look... then it should work...
as for the mentioned problem... why not assemble the barrels in an asymetric look all four on the one side that is not blocked in a 0 degree angle? so all four on the left side of the turret? with the side benefit to have a hatch on top of the turret?
Don't worry, Vik. I haven't even gotten out the GS for it. I might even pick up some liquid GS, since everyone raves about it and I have a bunch of small gaps to fill. Asymetrical, huh? That's something that I hadn't thought of. I'll have to see how it looks once I get all the ACs assembled. BTW, thanks for the babt advice
Rawson wrote:
I had thought about that earlier, but had settled for the appearance of horizontal mobility: there certainly is room back there. I couldn't figure out a way to do it and keep the cool manticore launch system.
Just fint a spot to the front on the launcher where you can throw a nice size magnet. Level it out and wrap it with some greenstuff. Grab your favorite turret, and magnetize that up to fit on top. Fit the hydra autocannons on the turret however looks good. Nothing stopping you from magnetizing these as well.
This way you could even swap the turret out, with a hellhound variant turret, for example. I'd also highly recommend not attaching the launch pad to the chimera chassis. Then you can switch the whole thing out for some sort of ordnance battery. All this is a little extra work, but once its done it really multiplies the options you have.
In any case, I'm sure you will pull out a nice looking mini. Looking forward to updates!
Could've sworn i was subscribed to this, apparently not.
Having just gone through the filtered version, i have to say you've got some really great work here! Its cool to see how much you've progressed both in terms of painting and modelling as well, since the beginning of the thread!
Having just gone through the filtered version, i have to say you've got some really great work here! Its cool to see how much you've progressed both in terms of painting and modelling as well, since the beginning of the thread!
Keep up the good work buddy!
Well, welcome to the club, Vitruvian And thanks! I really appreciate the comments I guess I get so focused on the current projects, I don't really stop to think about the ways that I have improved. Thanks for the reminder, super encouraging!
No worries! Its actually one of my favourite things to do, to go back to someones thread beginning, and marvel at how they have improved. Because its certain with a community like this that they will have improved.
If you look at my blog, I go from not being able to paint in the lines, to at least tabletop standard in about 3 months. Such is the greatness of dakka
prototype_X wrote: If you look at my blog, I go from not being able to paint in the lines, to at least tabletop standard in about 3 months. Such is the greatness of dakka
Keep it up, X!
On a serious note: I think I've finally finished the sculpting on the Commissar! I'll prime him today probably, and get to painting sometime soon.
Ok, so that wasn't a new picture, but the sculpting I've been doing was on the backside
Still working on the Hydra: After I finished up the Commissar last night, I started cleaning up the longbarreled ACs (read: make the ML bit not look like a ML) After the comments from Barksdale and Sageheart, I've had the rotating turret idea stuck in my head, so we'll see what happens with that. I've run out of steam on the flak barrel idea. It's on the back burner, if not off the stove completely...
On deck: The Valdor Tank Hunter!
I have a Leman Russ that I never field and that I wanted to do something fun with (and =]_,= worthy ) I've got some good pics from Dave and the web as well as a template that I haven't fully checked out yet. Should make the conversion work go smoother.
Looking stunning rawson! I'm excited to see this conversion.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and by the way, my comment earlier wasn't a shamless promotion of my blog... I was merley contributing to the conversation.
Can't wait to see you have the commissar all painted up.
I gues I meant in my previous comment to find some way to make the turret have vertial and horzontal motion like Barksdale was saying. It is really great stuff though, and I am looking forward to seeing more
Thanks for all of the comments! Super encouraging!
prototype_X wrote:Looking stunning rawson! I'm excited to see this conversion.
Oh and by the way, my comment earlier wasn't a shamless promotion of my blog... I was merley contributing to the conversation.
Thanks, and promote away! Referencing another thread doesn't qualify as thread jacking in my book
Rogue Wolves wrote:commissar looks amazing, cant waite to see him all painted up!
Thanks, RW! I hope to do justice to the multi-month conversion/sculpting phase
dsteingass wrote:Great Commissar, and I can't wait to see your Valdor!
I'm getting more and more excited for that project! I think I might have to work on it a bit, otherwise I'll rush the Commissar paintjob and Hydra build just to get to it
lone dirty dog wrote:Commissar is looking fantastic, looking forward to the conversion and good luck
Thanks, LDD!
Vitruvian XVII wrote:Looking forward to the valdor, ive always wanted one and may just have to blatantly copy you when it turns out amazing like it surely will
Blatantly copy? More like learn from my mistakes I've never attempted a project like this before...
Sageheart wrote:Can't wait to see you have the commissar all painted up.
I gues I meant in my previous comment to find some way to make the turret have vertial and horzontal motion like Barksdale was saying. It is really great stuff though, and I am looking forward to seeing more
Thanks, Sageheat! I totally get your previous comment, I'm just trying to come up with a "not too difficult" way to pull it off whilst saving the parts of the model that I really enjoy.
Joshua Von Wolkestadt wrote:Oh, goody.
Can't wait for the painted Commissar!
Even though it was my day off, not too much warhammering. Tons of painting done, though it was of chairs instead of minis
Anyway, I did manage to prime the Commissar (though no pics, since that wouldn't be very exciting), and disassemble the old Russ. I have recently been turned on to a product called "Spirit" that is available here in Denmark. I don't know if it is the same thing a "mineral spirits" like we have in the States, but it works like a charm to strip minis (including plastic) and even softens up glue that is several years old. Here's where we came out:
No broken pieces except the shovel (which I think I can just glue back together if I want to). So we're off and running! Now that most of the raw materials are here, we can get started! I will probably order a few choice bits that will be difficult to scratch build. The Holy Grail for this project will be a suitable barrel end. I was thinking the tip from the shadowsword cannon. Anyone have any advice on that? Or better yet, have one they want to unload?
Now I just need to hook up the new printer and check out those templates that I found.
and i have a tiny nitpick i want to be cleared... the one knee of your commissar looks as if it has still a bubble hole in the middle??? or am i seeing things here?
Viktor von Domm wrote: and i have a tiny nitpick i want to be cleared... the one knee of your commissar looks as if it has still a bubble hole in the middle??? or am i seeing things here?
Once again, your eagle eye comes to my rescue! I had assumed that it was the sculpting of fabric, but I could be wrong. I'm not really motivated to go back and fix it If it looks terrible once the first washes are on I might do something about it.
Viktor von Domm wrote: and i have a tiny nitpick i want to be cleared... the one knee of your commissar looks as if it has still a bubble hole in the middle??? or am i seeing things here?
Once again, your eagle eye comes to my rescue! I had assumed that it was the sculpting of fabric, but I could be wrong. I'm not really motivated to go back and fix it If it looks terrible once the first washes are on I might do something about it.
Well, after no painting updates for many, many months, here's something that everyone seems to have been waiting for:
I started painting the Commissar! I warmed up to painting with a few troopers and then got into it. Here's where we are after a few hours work...
Sorry for the crappy lighting. I really need to figure something out...
What I'm most afraid of is highlighting the jacket and hat. I've been looking at some reference pics and reading some tutorials. The trick seems to be not using grey to highlight, but a different color. I saw some good results with a flesh tone. This one from GW uses blue...
lone dirty dog wrote: Progress however I am surprise you went for the traditional commissar look, I kind of saw him wearing a lighter colour coat or even red in my mind.
I have to say the pic is a bit on the dark side, but the general look I get and like it.
Progress is good!
I hadn't even really considered a different color coat. I figured I was pushing the fluff envelope already with how Vostroyan-esque he was. Once this guys is all painted up, I'll have to do some fluff for him...
Like I said, sorry about the bad pics, I need a better work lamp
I'm excited for the Commissariate Contigent for the 104th: I just won an OOP Commissar on eBay! (Not that I have any plans in my list for another commissar, but I love the model and have wanted one for a long time) My husky commissar with PF and powersword should be arriving between Sept 19 and 25. Just for fun, I've been thinking about doing a cadet commissar as well...
Vitruvian XVII wrote: I usually use hawk turquoise mixed in with my black to highlight. Gives a nice shiny leather look.
Thanks for the tip, Vitruvian! Is the result similar to the GW Commissar above or something different? I perused the first few pages of your gallery, but I didn't find an example. Pic?
Rogue Wolves wrote:I like him, the idea to make gloves instead of hands is great. Since the only skin I see is his face he looks really cold, like a commissar should!
Thanks, RW! Glad you like him!
Vitruvian XVII wrote:Sure, though its easier if i find pics from other people that are painted properly
Thanks for the help, Vitruvian! I think I'll try the blue highlights
Viktor von Domm wrote: commissar is looking good... the face still needs some serious work... but other than that i really like that model... it is most unique!
oh and congratz to the win of the new commissar!
Thank you, thank you! I agree on the face, though most of him fits under the "needs serious work" category right now
Viktor von Domm wrote:LOL... yeah... still wip and all... but you know my tendecy to cruelty
Hurts so good
Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:That Commissar is decent! Worth the wait, and looking forward to seeing it finished.
I've never heard "decent" used so enthusiastically before
Some more work done on the Commissar. (Really need a name for this guy...) Tried blue as the hue color for the highlights, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.
There's something weird with his face. This particular model had/has a lot of miscast problems, and I think there's something wrong with his nose (which I didn't see until now)
On another note, I'm grateful to Vent for his recommendation of "Slave to Painting". I will probably pick up a few things from them at some point, but got inspired by/clued into these birch pod seeds. They sell them for $10, I picked up a whole mess at my friend's place for free.
I'm excited to add them to the 104th!
Got out the Valdor stuff and stared at it for a while. Here is the Russ side compared to the Malcador side template. Substancially different I'm hoping I didn't bite off more than I can chew with this project. I'm already coming up with a list of things that I'm not going to attempt
Looking great here Rawson! You've done lots whilst I was away, The commissar looks really good, the blue highlighting idea is great, might have to borrow that. The tank template is impressively large, will be a behemoth of a tank, looking forwards to more on that too. Keep it up!
my suggestion for his name would be something along the lines of RASPUTIN...he is obviously bearded and jetblack haired... and misterious and cruel as befitting for a commissar...
birch pod seeds
??? what for? as basing material? hmmm... most interesting...
Rogue Wolves wrote:that commissar is very good looking!
Thanks, RW
J-paint wrote:Looking great here Rawson! You've done lots whilst I was away, The commissar looks really good, the blue highlighting idea is great, might have to borrow that.
Steal away. I got it from Vitruvian, so I can't even take credit
storag wrote:This commissar is kinda admiral looking so I can suggest the name Kruzenshtern...
Hmm, that is a reference that I do not get...
Viktor von Domm wrote:my suggestion for his name would be something along the lines of RASPUTIN...he is obviously bearded and jetblack haired... and misterious and cruel as befitting for a commissar...
storag wrote:Vik, Rasputin in 40k would be a heretical psyker of Tzinch not any other way around.
Viktor von Domm wrote:granted... but the likness is very close to what i imagine him looking in the grim dark...
I'm working on some fluff for him, keep an eye out.
Viktor von Domm wrote:
birch pod seeds
??? what for? as basing material? hmmm... most interesting...
Basing material indeed! They look like tiny leaves. At first I was very impressed with the manufacture of such perfect small leaves, but then I found out that they are completely natural
Rogue Wolves wrote:also ....tank!
Yes, well...um...I'm not sure what to do with that...
J-paint wrote:The tank template is impressively large, will be a behemoth of a tank, looking forwards to more on that too. Keep it up!
Impressively and intimidatingly large (hopefully not just to the builder, but also to the enemies of the Imperium )
Not a reference really, his surname just sound fitting to me. Adam Johann Ritter von Krusenstern was a 19th century russian (yes, russian nobility had little to none russian blood) admiral who led the russian first circumnavigation of the globe.
I have tried quite a lot of ways to highlight black, and the best and smoothest look I have achived is by following the John Blanche method from WD back in issue between 115 and 135, used for highlighting the black half of the first WFB Empire greatswords. It is rather easy and produces a "light black" colour rather than blue-ish or grey: Start with black undercoat, make a mix of black and Hawk Torquise about 3:1 for the first highlight, then add more HyouT for the next. Depending on how much patience you got, you can add a little a time and go for a lot of layers, or like I end up doing 9 times out of 10, two layers before the next "major" step: Add a tiny amount of white for the next to final layer, and then some more white (not much is needed) for the finish. If you want a worn look, add even more white and stipple/drybrush it onto the areas that see the most wear.
I'm sorry I can't come up with the exact issue of WD, but my collection is currently somewhere in the attick, perhaps some of the other oldtimers are able to track it down.
and well actually the kids i work with i have to be a bit more careful about, as they are all mostly of turkish families... and thus a bit chosy when it comes to offensive language... but with my own kids i tend to be as free minded as is apropriate for that age... you can´t evade for long certain words... if you give these enough power kids will use them way too often...
anyways... i am off to bed now... i am supposed to regenerate
Viktor von Domm wrote:ah that swashbuckling commissar i do own too... congratz... that was your reent evilbay win, non?
and yeah... do share your fluff with us... way better to name him then... of course writing fluff with an already named char is much easier
and cutting out the middle man in terms of basing material is always a worthy deed!
Yes, great deal on him, too! So pumped!
storag wrote:
Hmm, that is a reference that I do not get...
Not a reference really, his surname just sound fitting to me. Adam Johann Ritter von Krusenstern was a 19th century russian (yes, russian nobility had little to none russian blood) admiral who led the russian first circumnavigation of the globe.
I see. I should tell my wife that I had a history lesson on Dakka today. She usually thinks it's pretty much useless Thanks for the idea
Dr.Avalanche wrote: I have tried quite a lot of ways to highlight black, and the best and smoothest look I have achived is by following the John Blanche method from WD back in issue between 115 and 135, used for highlighting the black half of the first WFB Empire greatswords. It is rather easy and produces a "light black" colour rather than blue-ish or grey: Start with black undercoat, make a mix of black and Hawk Torquise about 3:1 for the first highlight, then add more HyouT for the next. Depending on how much patience you got, you can add a little a time and go for a lot of layers, or like I end up doing 9 times out of 10, two layers before the next "major" step: Add a tiny amount of white for the next to final layer, and then some more white (not much is needed) for the finish. If you want a worn look, add even more white and stipple/drybrush it onto the areas that see the most wear.
I'm sorry I can't come up with the exact issue of WD, but my collection is currently somewhere in the attick, perhaps some of the other oldtimers are able to track it down.
Thanks for the tip, Doc! Don't worry about which WD issue, I don't have any (okay, I think I might have one somewhere). So the Turquoise produces a different effect than just blue then? I know Vitruvian also suggested HT, but it's lacking from my collection, so I used Enchanted Blue.
lone dirty dog wrote:Wats with all the commissars of late then They are cool but why so many
Well, there's only the two I think I've been working so much on this last one (and he's been so popular) that I decided to pick up theother one as well. He doesn't have a place in my army currently, but I like him, so...
I've been itching to use those birch pod whatevers. I'm really pleased with the result! I still have a few things to sort out on this guy: how to paint the holster, what color hair (incl. moustache), to rust or not to rust the base
Picked up some cobblestone plasticard at the store yesterday and gave it a go with the new commissar. Turning out ok, I think. I've started blocking in some colors on him, too. I have a lot of color choices to sort out on this guy as well, mainly because I don't want to go with the standard "black coat, boltgun PF, gold trimmings" that most people do.
I also worked on this guy for a bit. Man, was that cable fiddley!
There are a few last sculpting things, but I mostly need to decide if I'm trying to make the new cable look a bit more plasma-y or leave it as is.
Thanks for looking! As always, CC much loved Rawson
Rawson wrote: Well, there's only the two I think I've been working so much on this last one (and he's been so popular) that I decided to pick up theother one as well. He doesn't have a place in my army currently, but I like him, so...
I hope this explains
The base on the first is a nice little piece, although I have to say I would prefer it without the birch leaves.
I also really like the back pack,what did you make that out of
and i think the cable is as good as can be... but there is a bit of excess GS on the wielding hand...
and you let the leaves stay untouched and paint the rest of the base? interesting... i was always hesitant to mix natural stuff and painted stuff on a mini... but i agree... makes really nice leaves those birch thingies^^
I've never heard "decent" used so enthusiastically before
I live really close to Canada.
LOL
lone dirty dog wrote:
Rawson wrote: Well, there's only the two I think I've been working so much on this last one (and he's been so popular) that I decided to pick up theother one as well. He doesn't have a place in my army currently, but I like him, so...
I hope this explains
Now I got it
Rogue Wolves wrote:both commissars are looking excelent rawson!
Thank you, sah!
storag wrote:The 2nd one goes without changes? I thought you'll be adding some vostro-style stuff to it...
Viktor von Domm wrote:storag has a point there... maybe a nice ´stache?
I'm going with the fluff from the Imperial Guard Omnibus (I think it was the Vostroyan novel, now that I think about it) that Commissars never come from the same planet as the unit they are attached to. I think I'm pushing the envelope a bit with the first commissar, actually (to be explained in the fluff, whenever I get around to writing it). So no Vostroyan goodness for the second.
lone dirty dog wrote:
The base on the first is a nice little piece, although I have to say I would prefer it without the birch leaves.
I also really like the back pack,what did you make that out of
Fair enough about the leaves. I like them quite a lot, though The backpack was quite an effort, but I'm really pleased with how it turned out The main part is a standard IG vox (cut down and upside down and with a hole drilled in the center), the plasma reactor is the tip of some ramdom tau bit that I had, the two gubbins on top are from a Valk lascannon and an ork nob bike (I think).
Viktor von Domm wrote:and i think the cable is as good as can be... but there is a bit of excess GS on the wielding hand...
I was hoping someone would say that I didn't really want to do anything else with it As for the hand, it's quite a messy conversion point, partially because a) the plasma gun is significantly bigger than the lasgun that was there previously, and b) because I really messed it up while removing said lasgun. I'm still working on it. (You should see the other side: it's even worse! )
Viktor von Domm wrote:and you let the leaves stay untouched and paint the rest of the base? interesting... i was always hesitant to mix natural stuff and painted stuff on a mini... but i agree... makes really nice leaves those birch thingies^^
I guess I've never worried about it too much. I actually prefer to leave the sand unpainted because I think it looks more realistic. Also now with the leaves.
I'm glad you think so highly of Vostroyans, that someone be lost but to be like them It was a little strange actually to plop a stock model on a base and prime him without any sort of conversion work. I think this model can take it, though. It's a great sculpt!
lone dirty dog wrote: Rawson that is some clean drilling then I thought it was like that, so the piece in the centre of the hole is from the Tau right.
That is nice use of pieces and the cable is tops, sorry forgot to mention that last time and no kinks in it, was it guitar wire or a zing job.
I never understood why Vostroyans got such a bad rap myself they have a Napoleonic feel to them and look techy with it whats wrong with that.
Although some of the poses were a bit on the gak side, but that could be said about a lot of miniatures in other ranges.
:bows: Thank you for your kind words. It was a bit fiddley, but it is convincing enough. The fact that people can't quite figure out what it is helps, the last thing I want is someone looking at my plasma gunners and thinking "Why does that guy have a voxcaster hooked up to a plasma gun? Are they counts-as Noise Marines?" And yes, the center part is a Tau bit.
The cable is, in fact, a cannibalized a-string from my guitar. It was actually quite difficult to pull off, especially the shorter section from the pack to behind the gun stock.
I didn't know Vostroyans had a bad rap at all! There are a few models that aren't my favorite sculpts in the world, but only one that I truly detest.
In fact I like all the IG regiments out there, except for maybe Catachan. They all have some unique features and feel to them, which allows wide customisation. Vostroyans with their brass steampunk visuals are among most unique. Of course I mean the overal concept and not the outdated range of miniatures. It a sad thing that GW doesn't pay much attention to them but for a talanted modelist it's never a problem
lone dirty dog wrote:Some forums I have been on seem to have a dislike for them, but I kind of liked the idea behind them
Gasp! How could anyone not like Vostroyans?!?!?
storag wrote:In fact I like all the IG regiments out there, except for maybe Catachan. They all have some unique features and feel to them, which allows wide customisation. Vostroyans with their brass steampunk visuals are among most unique. Of course I mean the overal concept and not the outdated range of miniatures. It a sad thing that GW doesn't pay much attention to them but for a talanted modelist it's never a problem
Though quite aged, the I don't think of the sculpts as outdated (especially when compared to Mordians, Tallarn, or Valhallans!)
I'll take that "talented modeler" bit as a compliment
and as you said... compared to the almost the same looking basic mini from mordian and praetorian ... the vostroyan range is rather fresh in their looks...
lone dirty dog wrote: LOOK I DID NOT SAY IT just some forums rip them to pieces I don't know why as I love the little guys and wish there had been more.
Sometimes the messenger gets killed, LDD
lone dirty dog wrote: GW should make these in plastic could you imagine the conversion potential then
GW releasing plastic Vostroyans is beyond my wildest dreams
hey.. hey.. I'm open to any type of life style, but thats just wrong
What do you only like the big guys then RW
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Viktor von Domm wrote: i vote for plastic vostroyans any day of the week... that and plastic praetorians... not from other companies... i want my odd shaped GW bitz!
Maybe we can get a petition together and demand they make a plastic box set of them
hey.. hey.. I'm open to any type of life style, but thats just wrong
What do you only like the big guys then RW
I'm all for witty banter, but I'm not touching this one with a ten foot pole
lone dirty dog wrote:
Viktor von Domm wrote: i vote for plastic vostroyans any day of the week... that and plastic praetorians... not from other companies... i want my odd shaped GW bitz!
Maybe we can get a petition together and demand they make a plastic box set of them
Well, that's three signatures so far then...
Here's what I did tonight:
I'm quite pleased with the non-metallic frogging so far I still have a lot of things to figure out colors for: powerfist (not boltgun metal), frogging on his sleeve and pant leg, scarf trim. Any bright ideas?
CC greatly desired!
And in other news, I was watching Pearl Harbor whilst painting. Made me want to finish those hydras Watching action flicks whist painting might also be why I'm such a slow painter
Rogue Wolves wrote: nice commissar, and like vik I notcied that cool medal and I like it alot! Now while I'd die for a plastic vostroyan kit... praetorians arnt my flavor
Viktor von Domm wrote:is the medal of that commissar actually with a band of green, white green? cool!!!
he looks very clean... for now... that´s got to change of course
Thanks for noticing I'm sure he'll get a little bit of weathering, and lots of chipping on the fist
lone dirty dog wrote:As for the fist I think red like hell boy
You don't think it would be too much red with the sash there also? I had thought about red, but that was why I discarded the idea...
Rogue Wolves wrote:nice commissar, and like vik I notcied that cool medal and I like it alot! Now while I'd die for a plastic vostroyan kit... praetorians arnt my flavor
Rogue Wolves wrote:... Rawson I LOVE YOUR COMMISSAR!
Thanks for the enthusiasm, RW! So, you loved him so much you needed to post again? Or were you just trying to ignore LDD?
I do agree with you on the red fist and sash maybe this would be over kill, how about a yellow sash and red fist or red sash and yellow fist with hazard line's LOL
lone dirty dog wrote: I do agree with you on the red fist and sash maybe this would be over kill, how about a yellow sash and red fist or red sash and yellow fist with hazard line's LOL
Thanks for the ideas, Dirty. I think I like the red sash, so that will probably stay. I hadn't thought about a yellow fist, that's interesting, though I'm not sold on the hazard stripes My only concern would be too much yellow then with all of the frogging. I did have a few color ideas, but I'm not sure of anything yet:
Olive drab with some yellow text. That would look quite guard standard issue
Non-metallic grey with text (not sure on the color yet)
Vostroyan Tank khaki with red text (I'm liking the idea of script on the PF, if you haven't noticed )
I'm stil not sure what to do about the frogging on the leg and sleeve: maybe white on the leg and red on the sleeve?
yellow fist is a no go.... would only sully his position as a commissar... i´d go for a metalic look... in fact i wnet for a metallic look on my own model
Errrrrrrr Rawson I was only joking on the yellow fist especially with hazard stripes Mind you on a necromunda ganger it would look pretty cool DAVE DAVE ANYBODY SEEN DAVE …….
Rawson that commissar is coming along awesome! I think the pf done in the Vostroyan tank khaki to tie him in a bit will look cool and individual, especially with some text on it too! :-) actually looking at your example and the other pics I now have that hankering to paint a commi myself even though I will never need one lol!
Rogue Wolves wrote:Well I do love the paintjob alot.. buuut I was trying not to stay off topic for ya
Thank you for your focus. I know it's hard
Viktor von Domm wrote:yellow fist is a no go.... would only sully his position as a commissar... i´d go for a metalic look... in fact i wnet for a metallic look on my own model but yours will look better...
With all of these color choices (see below), I'm almost tempted to just go with metallic!
lone dirty dog wrote:Errrrrrrr Rawson I was only joking on the yellow fist especially with hazard stripes
That's the risk you take when you make jokes on the internet: people might just think you're crazy
monkeytroll wrote:Like the idea of khaki for the fist, although you could go red if you switched the sash to purple? Whatever, it definitely needs some script on it
nerdfest09 wrote:Rawson that commissar is coming along awesome! I think the pf done in the Vostroyan tank khaki to tie him in a bit will look cool and individual, especially with some text on it too! :-) actually looking at your example and the other pics I now have that hankering to paint a commi myself even though I will never need one lol!
Viktor von Domm wrote:purple sash sounds interesting! especially if you take into account all that yellow on the chest... would look good together...
nerdfest09 wrote:Purple is meant to represent royalty or heirachy isn't it? if so, then that'd work both with the colour palette and representation!
alabamaheretic wrote:you could always go for a green sash...i think off white script might be cool on the fist in its current state
Viktor von Domm wrote:green sahs would work as it would then play with the color of the medal again... and yes, nerdfest... his position would definatly allow purple...
Thanks for all of the imput, gentlemen! It is truly appreciated! In actuality, you all have given too much help: now I have to think about which all of your great ideas I will choose!
Since I'm at a bit of a roadblock with the commissar, I picked up the Valdor project again.This was also inspired by a key eBay purchase made yesterday: a Stormsword Volcano Cannon! I've been searching for one for quite a while to use for the main gun on the Valdor, and now, for a whopping 3.5 pounds sterling, it is mine!
Here's where we're at: I have successfully dismantled the side panel of the Russ into workable sections. Now I am in need help from the =]_,= with one big piece of advice and one small piece of advice.
Let's start with the smaller: the rear angle of the Valdor is much less than your standard Russ. Therefore, the rear section must be rotated to fit, and thus the little round details are crooked. Now, I'm not so concerned about the large hub in the back, but the 3 smaller ones look funny to me with there rivet patterns equally crooked. My plan is to make GS mold anyway for the details that will be added along the bottom, so the question is "Should I carve off the smaller details and replace them with GS versions that are straight, or am being too crazy here?"
The large question is this: "How do I go about connecting the plasticard pieces that I will be making to the existing Russ sections?" I don't imagine just gluing the edges will be sufficient. I thought about a continuous PC silhouette that all components are glued to, but is that OTT?
No, I would use a thin piece of PC to the overall shape and fix said pieces in the current positions to it, this way you have the design mapped out then its just a case of filling in, don't forget to use similar sized PC to match the thickness of the details.
Great start just take your time to match the detail P.S. YES I AM CRAZY
and actually if you want my opinion... i wouldn´t have cut up the LR at all... scratchbuild the valdor all the way... that way you would have been looking at less work all in all i think then now trying to fix things continously...
nice tank.. just nice, although vik's advice seems like the best thing to do,I still think its possible to make it look great with a plasticard/plastic kit hybrid
lone dirty dog wrote:No, I would use a thin piece of PC to the overall shape and fix said pieces in the current positions to it, this way you have the design mapped out then its just a case of filling in, don't forget to use similar sized PC to match the thickness of the details.
Great start just take your time to match the detail P.S. YES I AM CRAZY
Fair enough. Thanks, LDD!
Viktor von Domm wrote:and actually if you want my opinion... i wouldn´t have cut up the LR at all... scratchbuild the valdor all the way... that way you would have been looking at less work all in all i think then now trying to fix things continously...
It's a bit late for that, don't you think, Vik? Actually, I need to cut my teeth, so to speak, and converting one thing into another is a bit easier than starting from scratch.
Rogue Wolves wrote:nice tank.. just nice, although vik's advice seems like the best thing to do,I still think its possible to make it look great with a plasticard/plastic kit hybrid
but i know you as an excellent converter... i have faith with you
I appreciate the confidence
I whipped up a color comparison in good ol' MSPaint to help solve this Commissar dilemma
I think I got all of the discussed options in there. Thoughts?
1. Tell me about Commissar with cuirass please. is it official GW product, conversion of various GW plastic pieces, or an entire scratchbuilt?
2. do you use 'Veteran Grenadier' rules for ya Vostroyans
Vostroyans are originally 'wear carapace armor' (i.e. bearskin cap with either chainmail Kuntush,Zupan,Kafan and bronze cuirass), and inspired by cossacks from the novel "With Fire and Sword"
3. Your designs of Valdor Landship please
Viktor von Domm wrote:my vote is either for the se´cond to the left or the far right... the rest looks more chaosy...
prototype_X wrote:I'm gonna disagree with Vik on this one, I like the green one, looks regulation. Witch I like.
Well, so far the red sash stays, which I'm happy about! Thanks for the comments, guys!
Lone Cat wrote:1. Tell me about Commissar with cuirass please. is it official GW product, conversion of various GW plastic pieces, or an entire scratchbuilt? 2. do you use 'Veteran Grenadier' rules for ya Vostroyans Vostroyans are originally 'wear carapace armor' (i.e. bearskin cap with either chainmail Kuntush,Zupan,Kafan and bronze cuirass), and inspired by cossacks from the novel "With Fire and Sword" 3. Your designs of Valdor Landship please
If you go back some pages (starting with ~p40 or so) you can see the commissar progress and get the answers to your questions I do run them as veterans, but not usually with the grenadier special training. The Valdor is based on a Malcador template I found at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/bwc-archive/
a white powerfist??? i dunno who in their right mind would paint that weapon in that color to only have bloodstains and such ruin the perfect vision of purity...
I would also use PC, you'll spend 8X as long waiting on GS to dry, and it will be harder to shape than PC. If I were doing this, I'd either cut rivet rod the same size as the existing rivets, or I'd shave all of the rivets and replace them all with plastic rod rivets. It sounds like more work, but it'll all match better IMHO.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The Malcador rivets are also different than the Russ rivets.
Automatically Appended Next Post: oh..and the tracks are molded onto the the rear part of the bogeys on the FW Malcador, that is probably why regular track links don't meet up properly there?
dsteingass wrote: I would also use PC, you'll spend 8X as long waiting on GS to dry, and it will be harder to shape than PC. If I were doing this, I'd either cut rivet rod the same size as the existing rivets, or I'd shave all of the rivets and replace them all with plastic rod rivets. It sounds like more work, but it'll all match better IMHO.
Hmmm, I'm much more comfortable with GS, but your logic seems sound. I'll have to think about that as we go further. Thanks for the tip, Dave!
Here's what's been going on with me:
Commissar-
I went with the Standard issue green PF. I put the warning label on the MSPaint version as a joke, but I loved it so much that it made it onto the model
Valdor-
Supply drop! (Hence the midday post: I'm so excited! )
Now the Valdor has a main gun! A Volcano cannon from a stormsword
Some sort of CoD wall section that will serve as the generator for the Volcano Cannon
The cannon is a bit long, but not overly. I'm sure I can figure something out
I got some work done on the Valdor this evening. I started the reconstruction of the front end: this is howfar I got
I'm starting to see why you guys said that it is actually easier to scratch build the entire thing than make super huge modifications to an existing model But even so, I think that it's going pretty good. A little liquid GS, a few rivets, and we'll be good to go
I also started working on the track section as a whole. Here's about what it will look like:
I have some major decisions to make before we get too much farther, the biggest of which is what to do for the triple capacitor (or whatever that thing is on the side of the Valdor). I'm currently thinking of just using a modified sponson, but I'm not sure. Any ideas out there?
Also, I was thinking about making the Valdor playable as a LRBT. It would take some clever construction, but the versitility might be worth it (I don't have the IA book with the Valdor in it. Or even know which one it is for that matter! )
I've special ordered this empire captian to make into my tanker
Not gonna lie, kinda excited about converting this guy!
the current work you did is stunning... wouldn´t have thought you could achieve that amount of detail matching up...respect!
as for that...
the triple capacitor (or whatever that thing is on the side of the Valdor).
... i bet that is doable as a scratchbuild... if you use GS for the pipes... etc you can build that on your own...
and that mini looks very usefull and has some basic vostroyan feel about it already... and after your commissar resculpting i would be highly shocked if your work wont turn it into something awesome for your army... beside... that ´stache is screaming to be used for a cool mini!!! and the pose is oozing awesome sauce too^^
will the track roadwheels of your LANDSHIP thing (sh.. i've forgot the name) visible in your version?
Also i'm considering expansion of my 500 pts army using 6th edition rules (which, local expert says it favors flyers). there are 4 choices I might choose first.
A. A battery of 3 Basilisks SPH
B. A battery of 3 Manticores MLRS
C. A squadron of Leman Russ series
D. 3 Valkyries/Vendettas, accompanying 2 Veteran grenadiers and a second CCS....
the choice D includes the introduction of 'vostroyan- lookalikes' troops made entirely of plastics. I don't plan to buy metal Vostroyan for the expansion is because of the V markings, which contradicts to my "1" and "K" markings. the materials i think it is best to make the 'pre-industrial' Guard Grenadiers is in this page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/479724.page . but I need you to judge which of the material choices are the best to make 'Vostroyans'
Yeah, I would just use a standard Russ sponson then cover the open end with a riveted plate/vent thingie.
The capacitors look liek they could be made from metal conduit or even bitz from the IMEX chemical plant kit.
lone dirty dog wrote:Good clean work so far matching up nicely, it will be entertaining to watch this progress a little GS will clean up any gaps a treat
Thank you, LDD!The GSing stage is a wee bit further out still, but not too far
Viktor von Domm wrote:the current work you did is stunning... wouldn´t have thought you could achieve that amount of detail matching up...respect!
:bows: Thank you, sir!
Viktor von Domm wrote: as for that...
the triple capacitor (or whatever that thing is on the side of the Valdor).
... i bet that is doable as a scratchbuild... if you use GS for the pipes... etc you can build that on your own...
I don't know about GSing the pipes. I know there is a tool out there that does great things, but I don't have one (of course )
Rogue Wolves wrote:your tank is coming along nicely and really cool choice for your tanker!
Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:^ What he said
Thanks for the encouragement, guys!
Lone Cat wrote:Good landship designs. (and you don't need FW)
will the track roadwheels of your LANDSHIP thing (sh.. i've forgot the name) visible in your version?
Also i'm considering expansion of my 500 pts army using 6th edition rules (which, local expert says it favors flyers). there are 4 choices I might choose first.
A. A battery of 3 Basilisks SPH
B. A battery of 3 Manticores MLRS
C. A squadron of Leman Russ series
D. 3 Valkyries/Vendettas, accompanying 2 Veteran grenadiers and a second CCS....
the choice D includes the introduction of 'vostroyan- lookalikes' troops made entirely of plastics. I don't plan to buy metal Vostroyan for the expansion is because of the V markings, which contradicts to my "1" and "K" markings. the materials i think it is best to make the 'pre-industrial' Guard Grenadiers is in this page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/479724.page . but I need you to judge which of the material choices are the best to make 'Vostroyans'
Thanks, LoneCat. I certainly hope to avoid the FW price I'm not to the tracks/wheels stage yet, so we'll see. On the Malcador chassis, the wheels are much more visible than the standard LRBT. Not sure what advice to give on your choices, but they don't seem to line up points wise. As for the "Vostroyan" troopers, don't worry too much about the "V" iconography: there really isn't that much on your basic troopers (only a medalion on the Sergeant, iirc).
dsteingass wrote:Yeah, I would just use a standard Russ sponson then cover the open end with a riveted plate/vent thingie.
The capacitors look liek they could be made from metal conduit or even bitz from the IMEX chemical plant kit.
That's the current plan. Metal conduit, a la hardware store bits? I havn't heard of IMEX. What is that exactly?
Lone Cat wrote:Good landship designs. (and you don't need FW)
will the track roadwheels of your LANDSHIP thing (sh.. i've forgot the name) visible in your version?
Also i'm considering expansion of my 500 pts army using 6th edition rules (which, local expert says it favors flyers). there are 4 choices I might choose first.
A. A battery of 3 Basilisks SPH
B. A battery of 3 Manticores MLRS
C. A squadron of Leman Russ series
D. 3 Valkyries/Vendettas, accompanying 2 Veteran grenadiers and a second CCS....
the choice D includes the introduction of 'vostroyan- lookalikes' troops made entirely of plastics. I don't plan to buy metal Vostroyan for the expansion is because of the V markings, which contradicts to my "1" and "K" markings. the materials i think it is best to make the 'pre-industrial' Guard Grenadiers is in this page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/479724.page . but I need you to judge which of the material choices are the best to make 'Vostroyans'
Thanks, LoneCat. I certainly hope to avoid the FW price I'm not to the tracks/wheels stage yet, so we'll see. On the Malcador chassis, the wheels are much more visible than the standard LRBT. Not sure what advice to give on your choices, but they don't seem to line up points wise. As for the "Vostroyan" troopers, don't worry too much about the "V" iconography: there really isn't that much on your basic troopers (only a medalion on the Sergeant, iirc).
wait? have you try putting High elf spearmen torso (or later, Plastic Lions of Charce) and cadian lasgun arms of any versions together and you found out it doesn't align so well?
V markings appears on 1 regular rifleman as well as on HB drum magazines, and sergeant too.
another reasons i'm consider doing plastic 'vostroyan lookalikes' is special weapons choices. they don't have meltas, and my veteran sarge is planned to wield better pistols. (in addition, Vostroyans don't uses Bazookas and ACs)
one more is that the 2nd commander will wear either tricornes or bicornes and wield different weapons to Graf Harazahn.
Lone Cat wrote:wait? have you try putting High elf spears (or later, Plastic Lions of Charce) and cadian lasgun arms of any versions together and you found out it doesn't align so well?
Uh...whut? No...I've never tried putting High elf spears on cadian lasgun arms and found they don't align well.
oops i've forgot to add 'spearmen torso' so do you think that that elven spearmen plastic bits and cadian shock troops fit well on making vet grenadiers?
the 'V' markings has no meanings in my IG army. they belong to celtic culture and not slavic ones, so gimme the reasons that convince me to buy metal vostroyans and how to get around with V iconography please.
Lone Cat wrote:oops i've forgot to add 'spearmen torso' so do you think that that elven spearmen plastic bits and cadian shock troops fit well on making vet grenadiers?
the 'V' markings has no meanings in my IG army. they belong to celtic culture and not slavic ones, so gimme the reasons that convince me to buy metal vostroyans and how to get around with V iconography please.
Okay, that makes a bit more sense No, I haven't tried that either. I've just converted the metal ones myself. Up to you though, I don't feel the need to convince you to use the metal guys. Personally, I prefer the metal guys (though I haven't gotten into the Slavic vs Celtic debate) bt I'm not a Vostroyan Puritan
Freytag93 wrote:Some amazing work here. Some of this GS work... I can't even comprehend... Consider me subbed!
Really great stuff in here Rawson. I just dug through all fifty pages, and I've got to say I'm impressed. I'm a big fan of how you did the Commissar out of the Fantasy Witch Hunter. Fantastic conversion.
Darth Bob wrote: Really great stuff in here Rawson. I just dug through all fifty pages, and I've got to say I'm impressed. I'm a big fan of how you did the Commissar out of the Fantasy Witch Hunter. Fantastic conversion.
What's the status on your Marbo count-as?
Thanks, DarthBob! It's quite a chore to go through 50 pages, so I'm glad that the 104th didn't disappoint!
Uh, yeah. About that... Marbo has some base paint on him, but that's about it. Im in a painting mode right now, so maybe he'll get some love
Darth Bob wrote: Really great stuff in here Rawson. I just dug through all fifty pages, and I've got to say I'm impressed. I'm a big fan of how you did the Commissar out of the Fantasy Witch Hunter. Fantastic conversion.
What's the status on your Marbo count-as?
Thanks, DarthBob! It's quite a chore to go through 50 pages, so I'm glad that the 104th didn't disappoint!
Uh, yeah. About that... Marbo has some base paint on him, but that's about it. Im in a painting mode right now, so maybe he'll get some love
It's not a chore if there's good content!
Do it! I'd love to see that model completed. The pose was very dynamic. The only thing I thought he maybe needed was a little fur collar to further tie him in with the Vostroyans, but he looked awesome regardless.
Here's a bit of what I worked on last night. I finally found a solution for the triple capacitor conundrum It's a slimmed sponson with the apurature widened to show the capacitors (modified LRBT exhaust systems). I think I'll actually widen out the rest of the window so that you can see all three clearly. I had hoped to preserve those rivets but I don't think it will work.
I also worked a bit on the Valdor side, and the last PlasmaVet, but no pics of those until later.
now that is a nice meaningful aperatus without meaning actually too much... definatly will keep in mind that idea... my army needs those gimmicks!!!
suggestion: if possible do a mirror version and then glue it together... i bet that would look very good... and would make even more sense in terms of construction...
Viktor von Domm wrote: now that is a nice meaningful aperatus without meaning actually too much... definatly will keep in mind that idea... my army needs those gimmicks!!!
suggestion: if possible do a mirror version and then glue it together... i bet that would look very good... and would make even more sense in terms of construction...
Thank you, sah! I like to think of myself as the king of gimmicks What do you mean, exaclty, by mirror version? There is a sponson mounted weapon on the other side of the Valdor, if that's what you were thinking...
Viktor von Domm wrote: now that is a nice meaningful aperatus without meaning actually too much... definatly will keep in mind that idea... my army needs those gimmicks!!!
suggestion: if possible do a mirror version and then glue it together... i bet that would look very good... and would make even more sense in terms of construction...
Thank you, sah! I like to think of myself as the king of gimmicks What do you mean, exaclty, by mirror version? There is a sponson mounted weapon on the other side of the Valdor, if that's what you were thinking...
nono... take a sponson of the other side and glue it facing your recent gimmik...
In all seriousness, not a bad idea, but I think the execution would require more bits than I'm willing to buy/wait for. I would like to build/use something else in connection with the triple capacitor (which was a spur of the moment name that has now become ingrained in my mind) like on the original model. I'll have to figure something out...
which in essence makes timetravel possible at all....
well... this way a construction makes more sense... but i bet you could scratchbuild this part completly... i think it would be no real big deal...
and of course straws would make a nice base for that energy spindle look...
Now, if my army could have access to time travel, they'd be unstoppable!
I had thought about straws, but I wondered about how the finished product would look. Maybe if I made some nice housings for them, it would look alright...
I wrote up a bit of fluff and names for the Commissars tonight
Spoiler:
Commissar Luther Bismarke Vostroyan 104th Mech.
Spoiler:
Commissar Haroldus Wulff Vostroyan 104th Mech.
And here's the fluffy bits. Hope you enjoy!
Spoiler:
>> Evaluation of Commissariat Entities/Attachments Unit: VST(M)104 Frequency: Per Annum (overdue) Assigned Administratum: Reemas, Q. [AAS: 908756151002]
Briefing: The Vostroyan 104th Mechanized Division (hereafter “104th”) has only two commissars attached to it: Commissars Luther Bismarke and Haroldus Wulff. The below average representation is a reflection of both the mechanized specialization of the division, thusly fewer soldiers than standard infantry divisions, as well as the overall discipline of the unit. Statistics for Infractions as well as Court Marshals, Mandatory Confinement, and Summary Executions (hereafter “Disciplinary Measures”) for the 104th, while somewhat mediocre for a Vostroyan unit, are quite remarkable compared to average guard divisions. With regulation of discipline and reprimands remaining somewhat insubstantial, Bismarke and Wulff have subsequently dedicated themselves to the remaining Commissariat role of maintaining morale. Bismarke and Wulff are dissimilar not only in physique, but also in approach to duties. Wulff has a relatively conventional demeanor, congenial with officers and taciturn with common troops. Bismarke, however, is more uplifting and familiar, going so far as to adopting some of the antiquated style of the Vostroyans. While somewhat unorthodox, this method seems to have been quite effective. ++Briefing Abridged++
>>Assessment: Standardized Continuation of Duties Notation Delivered: Bismarke, L. [Ident: SAL-08349-BL2492] Wulff, H. [Ident: SQR-44813-WH2371] Barlov, V. [SN: VST674854931254]
Viktor von Domm wrote: hmmm.... the names lack a certain something... how about adding some prefixes like "´o" or "de" or a "von" ?
Feel free to give some examples
Viktor von Domm wrote: as for the fluffy bit... frightingly realistic sounding it is!... you´ve written in that style already in RL or what?
i like the explainative shortcuts you give after the more elaborate earlier ones...
I'm glad you enjoyed it! As for the RL experience, in my previous career as an engineer, I worked for the Department of Transportation as an inspector. I don't want to think about how many Inspectors Daily Reports (hereafter "IDRs") I've written. I'm glad that my univeristy degree doesn't have anything to do with my current career, but it helps me write believable fluff for my warhammer army
I'm so pumped for efterårs ferie! For those of you who don't speak Danish, it means next week is Autumn holiday and I have the week off! I have a lot of things going on besides gaming (the wife has a nice list of things, I promised to help a buddy with his kitchen remodel, etc) but I hope to get a ton done this next week
Here's what I worked on tonight:
Random ADD project: heavy flamer. I had tried to make this guy a Vostroyan Harker (not that I ever run him, I just thought it would be fun). Didn't turn out well, so not I have a cut down grenade launcher with no head. What to do, what to do. Not that I ever run a heavy flamer either, but could be a fun conversion. Here's what I've got so far:
Too OTT?
Don't worry, I know there's a mold line there
Also, I made some GS press molds for the Valdor Project. I read a blog about a guy melting sprue and using it in press molds to get plastic casts instead of GS. I think I'll give it a try.
HArker being anything near OOT??? is that possible?? i think not... the tank on his back is thus fully in theme! and i eagerly await the eradication of the aforementioned abomination there!
as for the plastic melting... hmmm... prepare for stench... that´s all i am saying on this one
and...well good luck for having some free time for your own errands hope is the last resort^^
Mini supply drop today: I finally received my empire captian to use as a tanker.
Here's what he looks like after a bit of chopping
First order of business is to find a right arm (since his two handed mace won't be of much use anymore ) Here are some options I've come up with:
The leaning arm works pretty good, and wouldn't require much sculpting
I like this pose the best, but it would require something in his hand (and a coffee mug seems a bit out of place)
The parade sword looks okay, I guess, but it isn't my favorite and would require a heck of a lot of sculpting to make work
I've omitted a bunch of stereotypical arm options (e.g. the pointing hand, the pistol pointing at the sky, and the "charge" sword) but I guess they are still possibilities if you guys really wanted to see them.
I'm also debating a bionic eye and :gasp: whether or not to give him that classic Vostroyan hat (in all seriousness, it doesn't make a lot of sense on a tanker)
the leaning arm option looks good... the "mug" holding one is something i think would lend a funny take for this model... depends if you could live with that as your vostroyans tend to be more sober.... so could be a kind of diversion from the main theme...
i totally join you here tho in omitting those classic options... overdone... lack style and what not.... he could hold a telescope sort of device tho... not to his eye but rather to be ready once the tank is standing still again....
i gather you want to have the one arm steel clad and the other one just with sleave...? if you add some cables and gimmicks to the armored arm...then this will work quite good...
dunno if a bionic eye would be too stereotypical classic GW like... i instead would opt here for a posh looking monocle... much better looking...and you can do it! sculpt it on your own!...
and... i would keep the head as is... bold as brass and bald too
That will work perfectly as a tank commander, as for the arms leaning is the winner for me maybe you could turn it into a mega phone, however I do like Viks idea of the telescope.
Viktor von Domm wrote:the leaning arm option looks good... the "mug" holding one is something i think would lend a funny take for this model... depends if you could live with that as your vostroyans tend to be more sober.... so could be a kind of diversion from the main theme...
i totally join you here tho in omitting those classic options... overdone... lack style and what not.... he could hold a telescope sort of device tho... not to his eye but rather to be ready once the tank is standing still again....
i gather you want to have the one arm steel clad and the other one just with sleave...? if you add some cables and gimmicks to the armored arm...then this will work quite good...
dunno if a bionic eye would be too stereotypical classic GW like... i instead would opt here for a posh looking monocle... much better looking...and you can do it! sculpt it on your own!...
and... i would keep the head as is... bold as brass and bald too
Great ideas, all, Vik! I'm glad I'm not crazy for designing this guy with no hat I'll be thinking about your other ideas as well
lone dirty dog wrote:That will work perfectly as a tank commander, as for the arms leaning is the winner for me maybe you could turn it into a mega phone, however I do like Viks idea of the telescope.
I appreciate the input, LDD!
prototype_X wrote:What about the cane held under his arm from the command squad kit? Could look posh.
Good thought, but wrong arm (and I don't have one ) Thanks for the ideas coming
Here's the evenings work: Now just a bit of armor on his shoulder, and he's about done! That went faster than expected
)
you with my mad painting skills 
. 
its just areal shame not to see the finished concept.
I still have a bit if GSing to do. I'm actually on holiday in the states now, so no hobbying to be had at all for the time being (unless you count reading the new rulebook, which I picked up today 
but they come back they always come back 
)
just some forums rip them to pieces I don't know why as I love the little guys and wish there had been more.
