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 Rawson wrote:

lone dirty dog wrote:

 Rogue Wolves wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
I love little guys

hey.. hey.. I'm open to any type of life style, but thats just wrong

What do you only like the big guys then RW

I'm all for witty banter, but I'm not touching this one with a ten foot pole

I see what you did there

As for the fist I think red like hell boy

nice commissar, and like vik I notcied that cool medal and I like it alot! Now while I'd die for a plastic vostroyan kit... praetorians arnt my flavor

 Rogue Wolves wrote:
nice commissar, and like vik I notcied that cool medal and I like it alot! Now while I'd die for a plastic vostroyan kit... praetorians arnt my flavor

Where did praetorians come into it then

It was mentioned by vik a couple comments ago

 Rogue Wolves wrote:
It was mentioned by vik a couple comments ago

Vik talks to much ….

RW is it me or are we starting to stray in dangerous waters again, I can see the red writing appearing again

... Rawson I LOVE YOUR COMMISSAR!

hey the wanting for plastic praetorians is actually ancient by now... for decandes have these been asked for...

Viktor von Domm wrote:is the medal of that commissar actually with a band of green, white green? cool!!!

he looks very clean... for now... that´s got to change of course

Thanks for noticing I'm sure he'll get a little bit of weathering, and lots of chipping on the fist

lone dirty dog wrote:As for the fist I think red like hell boy

You don't think it would be too much red with the sash there also? I had thought about red, but that was why I discarded the idea...

Rogue Wolves wrote:nice commissar, and like vik I notcied that cool medal and I like it alot! Now while I'd die for a plastic vostroyan kit... praetorians arnt my flavor

Rogue Wolves wrote:... Rawson I LOVE YOUR COMMISSAR!

Thanks for the enthusiasm, RW! So, you loved him so much you needed to post again? Or were you just trying to ignore LDD?

Any other color ideas out there?

You cant ignore the Dog Hello hello hello hello

I do agree with you on the red fist and sash maybe this would be over kill, how about a yellow sash and red fist or red sash and yellow fist with hazard line's LOL

 lone dirty dog wrote:
I do agree with you on the red fist and sash maybe this would be over kill, how about a yellow sash and red fist or red sash and yellow fist with hazard line's LOL

Thanks for the ideas, Dirty. I think I like the red sash, so that will probably stay. I hadn't thought about a yellow fist, that's interesting, though I'm not sold on the hazard stripes My only concern would be too much yellow then with all of the frogging. I did have a few color ideas, but I'm not sure of anything yet:

Olive drab with some yellow text. That would look quite guard standard issue

Non-metallic grey with text (not sure on the color yet)

Vostroyan Tank khaki with red text (I'm liking the idea of script on the PF, if you haven't noticed )

I'm stil not sure what to do about the frogging on the leg and sleeve: maybe white on the leg and red on the sleeve?

Well I do love the paintjob alot.. buuut I was trying not to stay off topic for ya

yellow fist is a no go.... would only sully his position as a commissar... i´d go for a metalic look... in fact i wnet for a metallic look on my own model


but yours will look better...

Errrrrrrr Rawson I was only joking on the yellow fist especially with hazard stripes Mind you on a necromunda ganger it would look pretty cool DAVE DAVE ANYBODY SEEN DAVE …….

Rawson that commissar is coming along awesome! I think the pf done in the Vostroyan tank khaki to tie him in a bit will look cool and individual, especially with some text on it too! :-) actually looking at your example and the other pics I now have that hankering to paint a commi myself even though I will never need one lol!

Like the idea of khaki for the fist, although you could go red if you switched the sash to purple?

Whatever, it definitely needs some script on it

I'll add a fourth signature to the petition- is that enough yet

purple sash sounds interesting!


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specially if you take into account all that yellow on the chest... would look good together...

Purple is meant to represent royalty or heirachy isn't it? if so, then that'd work both with the colour palette and representation!

you could always go for a green sash...i think off white script might be cool on the fist in its current state

green sahs would work as it would then play with the color of the medal again...

and yes, nerdfest... his position would definatly allow purple...

Rogue Wolves wrote:Well I do love the paintjob alot.. buuut I was trying not to stay off topic for ya

Thank you for your focus. I know it's hard

Viktor von Domm wrote:yellow fist is a no go.... would only sully his position as a commissar... i´d go for a metalic look... in fact i wnet for a metallic look on my own model

but yours will look better...

With all of these color choices (see below), I'm almost tempted to just go with metallic!

lone dirty dog wrote:Errrrrrrr Rawson I was only joking on the yellow fist especially with hazard stripes

That's the risk you take when you make jokes on the internet: people might just think you're crazy

monkeytroll wrote:Like the idea of khaki for the fist, although you could go red if you switched the sash to purple?
Whatever, it definitely needs some script on it

nerdfest09 wrote:Rawson that commissar is coming along awesome! I think the pf done in the Vostroyan tank khaki to tie him in a bit will look cool and individual, especially with some text on it too! :-) actually looking at your example and the other pics I now have that hankering to paint a commi myself even though I will never need one lol!

Viktor von Domm wrote:purple sash sounds interesting! especially if you take into account all that yellow on the chest... would look good together...

nerdfest09 wrote:Purple is meant to represent royalty or heirachy isn't it? if so, then that'd work both with the colour palette and representation!

alabamaheretic wrote:you could always go for a green sash...i think off white script might be cool on the fist in its current state

Viktor von Domm wrote:green sahs would work as it would then play with the color of the medal again...
and yes, nerdfest... his position would definatly allow purple...

Thanks for all of the imput, gentlemen! It is truly appreciated! In actuality, you all have given too much help: now I have to think about which all of your great ideas I will choose!

Since I'm at a bit of a roadblock with the commissar, I picked up the Valdor project again.This was also inspired by a key eBay purchase made yesterday: a Stormsword Volcano Cannon! I've been searching for one for quite a while to use for the main gun on the Valdor, and now, for a whopping 3.5 pounds sterling, it is mine!

Here's where we're at:

I have successfully dismantled the side panel of the Russ into workable sections. Now I am in need help from the =]_,= with one big piece of advice and one small piece of advice.

Let's start with the smaller: the rear angle of the Valdor is much less than your standard Russ. Therefore, the rear section must be rotated to fit, and thus the little round details are crooked. Now, I'm not so concerned about the large hub in the back, but the 3 smaller ones look funny to me with there rivet patterns equally crooked. My plan is to make GS mold anyway for the details that will be added along the bottom, so the question is "Should I carve off the smaller details and replace them with GS versions that are straight, or am being too crazy here?"

The large question is this: "How do I go about connecting the plasticard pieces that I will be making to the existing Russ sections?" I don't imagine just gluing the edges will be sufficient. I thought about a continuous PC silhouette that all components are glued to, but is that OTT?

Thanks for all of your input everyone!
Rawson

No, I would use a thin piece of PC to the overall shape and fix said pieces in the current positions to it, this way you have the design mapped out then its just a case of filling in, don't forget to use similar sized PC to match the thickness of the details.

Great start just take your time to match the detail P.S. YES I AM CRAZY

yay for metalic!^^

and actually if you want my opinion... i wouldn´t have cut up the LR at all... scratchbuild the valdor all the way... that way you would have been looking at less work all in all i think then now trying to fix things continously...

nice tank.. just nice, although vik's advice seems like the best thing to do,I still think its possible to make it look great with a plasticard/plastic kit hybrid

lone dirty dog wrote:No, I would use a thin piece of PC to the overall shape and fix said pieces in the current positions to it, this way you have the design mapped out then its just a case of filling in, don't forget to use similar sized PC to match the thickness of the details.
Great start just take your time to match the detail P.S. YES I AM CRAZY

Fair enough. Thanks, LDD!

Viktor von Domm wrote:and actually if you want my opinion... i wouldn´t have cut up the LR at all... scratchbuild the valdor all the way... that way you would have been looking at less work all in all i think then now trying to fix things continously...

It's a bit late for that, don't you think, Vik? Actually, I need to cut my teeth, so to speak, and converting one thing into another is a bit easier than starting from scratch.

Rogue Wolves wrote:nice tank.. just nice, although vik's advice seems like the best thing to do,I still think its possible to make it look great with a plasticard/plastic kit hybrid

Thanks for the vote of confidence, RW

It's a bit late for that, don't you think, Vik?

well...you didn´t ask me before

but i know you as an excellent converter... i have faith with you

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

It's a bit late for that, don't you think, Vik?

well...you didn´t ask me before

but i know you as an excellent converter... i have faith with you

I appreciate the confidence

I whipped up a color comparison in good ol' MSPaint to help solve this Commissar dilemma

I think I got all of the discussed options in there. Thoughts?

my vote is either for the se´cond to the left or the far right... the rest looks more chaosy...

I'm gonna disagree with Vik on this one, I like the green one, looks regulation. Witch I like.

1. Tell me about Commissar with cuirass please. is it official GW product, conversion of various GW plastic pieces, or an entire scratchbuilt?
2. do you use 'Veteran Grenadier' rules for ya Vostroyans

Vostroyans are originally 'wear carapace armor' (i.e. bearskin cap with either chainmail Kuntush,Zupan,Kafan and bronze cuirass), and inspired by cossacks from the novel "With Fire and Sword"
3. Your designs of Valdor Landship please

Viktor von Domm wrote:my vote is either for the se´cond to the left or the far right... the rest looks more chaosy...

prototype_X wrote:I'm gonna disagree with Vik on this one, I like the green one, looks regulation. Witch I like.

Well, so far the red sash stays, which I'm happy about! Thanks for the comments, guys!

Lone Cat wrote:1. Tell me about Commissar with cuirass please. is it official GW product, conversion of various GW plastic pieces, or an entire scratchbuilt?
2. do you use 'Veteran Grenadier' rules for ya Vostroyans
Vostroyans are originally 'wear carapace armor' (i.e. bearskin cap with either chainmail Kuntush,Zupan,Kafan and bronze cuirass), and inspired by cossacks from the novel "With Fire and Sword"
3. Your designs of Valdor Landship please

If you go back some pages (starting with ~p40 or so) you can see the commissar progress and get the answers to your questions
I do run them as veterans, but not usually with the grenadier special training.
The Valdor is based on a Malcador template I found at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/bwc-archive/