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Pics are fine for me mate. Was good to check back on this one. The army is building up very nicely. Still jealous of your hats. Rough riders are looking good

I'm devastated by the lack of Fareldians !

all joking aside i'm looking forward to your rough riders, i could do with some inspiration on what models i use for mine, im actually tempted by bretonnian lancers !

Looking good so far, though I can't help but notice that you're doing a lot of work on special units (Ogryns, Rough Riders, Air Cav), but only have one basic squad painted so far.....

Love the Vostroyans, Just started an IG army Myself only differance is im doin Catachan Air Assault. But love the use of gs made me rethink how i could use it. Oh i have some thoughts on your Valk, and how to turn it into a Vendetta.

heres the link: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/780/341481.page

Makes me wanna start my own p&m blog now. considered this subscribed.

oh one final thought on the ogryns...they either need slowed huge goatees or a big chin beard imho. think taht would look kinda cool. any way looking forward to your next post.

Sorry should have suggested a large relatively blunt needle not pins (find your wife's sewing box and 'liberate' one ....liberation - the acceptable face of theft) or try using the end of fine brass rod.

In this case if you're brave and let the GS harden a little it will produce much firmer and cleaner results. Also for future work consider getting some procreate putty as it does everything gs does and more; allowing you to make sharper, hard edges without the rounding off often generated by gs drying.

Axlbush wrote:Pics are fine for me mate. Was good to check back on this one. The army is building up very nicely. Still jealous of your hats. Rough riders are looking good

Thanks, man!

Fairfeldia wrote:I'm devastated by the lack of Fareldians !

all joking aside i'm looking forward to your rough riders, i could do with some inspiration on what models i use for mine, im actually tempted by bretonnian lancers !

Man, I love the Bretonnians, but the problem I had with the WF stuff was that I couldn't figure out how to make them Grimdark enough. I tried with empire Pistoleers/Outriders and it didn't end well (see above post

alabamaheretic wrote:Love the Vostroyans, Just started an IG army Myself only differance is im doin Catachan Air Assault. But love the use of gs made me rethink how i could use it. Oh i have some thoughts on your Valk, and how to turn it into a Vendetta.

heres the link: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/780/341481.page

Makes me wanna start my own p&m blog now. considered this subscribed.

oh one final thought on the ogryns...they either need slowed huge goatees or a big chin beard imho. think taht would look kinda cool. any way looking forward to your next post.

Well, I think the guys with paint are a little past the "add some more gs" stage, but I just got one that I've started work on. Maybe he will get a little moustache love. I had also thought about a ogre kingdoms head swap if I ever field a large unit, they have some pretty sweet facial hair. The points cost is a little steep (265 for 5 ogryns and a chimera) for a no power weapons unit. I'm kinda second guessing them in my 1500 pts "This is what I need to field an IG army" list. We shall see.

Thanks for the Vendetta ideas, I'll certainly check it out!

Dysartes wrote:Looking good so far, though I can't help but notice that you're doing a lot of work on special units (Ogryns, Rough Riders, Air Cav), but only have one basic squad painted so far.....

Yeah, you caught me. I've kinda been unintensionally avoiding more troops just because of their cost. I will need to get around to it at some point, surely. At least Melta Vets are a troop choice

Dances with Squats wrote:Sorry should have suggested a large relatively blunt needle not pins (find your wife's sewing box and 'liberate' one ....liberation - the acceptable face of theft) or try using the end of fine brass rod.

In this case if you're brave and let the GS harden a little it will produce much firmer and cleaner results. Also for future work consider getting some procreate putty as it does everything gs does and more; allowing you to make sharper, hard edges without the rounding off often generated by gs drying.

I've never tried procreate, but I've heard ramblings before. Never that it was better than GS, though! I might have to look into it.

Have a good weekend everyone! I'm hoping to get an update on here before Monday rolls around, and all the comments has got me motivated!

Cheers,
Rawson

Looking forward to that update

Alright, so I didn't get around to an update until Monday. My most sincere apologies

I didn't get a whole lot done, but here's what I've got.

I started working on the mounts for the roughriders. I didn't like how uniform the horses were, so I've been trying to mix and match with the legs and do some head angle adjustements.



Most came out okay. This one still needs some work. I like the head angle here, but I'm not really sure how to reconnect the reins. Any bright ideas?



I changed one of the lances a bit here with the shoulder from an Empire Knightly Orders lance. It turned out pretty good, imho, but the process severly weakened the lance itself. Which leads me to my next problem. The roughrider captain comes with his lance slung across his back. I would rather him be stabbing something with it, and I have some extra Knightly order lances, but my experience modifying the other lance makes me a bit leary. There are some other options. He comes with a chainsword and bolt pistol, which could both be easily updated. What do you guys think?





CC encouraged!

Cheers,
Rawson

The army is looking great, but please give those Vets some more gear, any right minded soldier who's survived the galaxy's worst is going to have a little more than the others! Keep it up.

Fattimus_maximus wrote:The army is looking great, but please give those Vets some more gear, any right minded soldier who's survived the galaxy's worst is going to have a little more than the others! Keep it up.

Now a few people have said that. I'm seriously thinking about it now. I definately don't want them carrying huge packs: I'm invisioning them more in rapid insertion mission than weeks behind enemy lines with no chance of resupply. Maybe I can figure out how to add some webbing or some of the belt pouches...

Thanks for the input!

Cheers,
Rawson

Chainsword and bolt pistol, or maybe use the horse rearing up and have the captain stabing an ork or tyranid with the lance.

And i would defiantly go with more packs for the veteran squads or maybe make it look like most of there packs and ammo have been stored on top of there transport so they look like the mobile force your looking for.

In my opinion the Vostroyan models are all very well armed and equipped as they are, such as one of the standing models has 7 las packs across his back and belt not to mention grenades and a bayonet.

Well, after all of the CC I got about adding some more kit to the melta vets, I think I 've come up with something that I like.



I used the large pouches from the Tactical Marine Squad. I think it gives more kit, while still remaining streamlined and fast looking.



Thoughts? More CC, please!

Cheers,
Rawson

It might just be because of my love for Vostroyans, but I'm diggin' 'em.

I feel like the back packs from the IG HWS sprue would look really good on those Airbourne vets, but its your army, so do whatever you think looks best.

Looks good i like the packs, you should also condier using the packs off the chimera sprue if you want them to look like foot sloggers. I think your vets that are airborne need rebreathers imo, the fw elysian heads come to mind again my opinion. at any rate still lookin good waiting to see more.

YoMomma wrote:It might just be because of my love for Vostroyans, but I'm diggin' 'em.

Thanks!

Kazerkinelite wrote:I feel like the back packs from the IG HWS sprue would look really good on those Airbourne vets, but its your army, so do whatever you think looks best.

The HWS backpacks are a bit oversized for the look I'm going for. I have a few, so I tried them out, but the size of them lead me to come up with another option. Thanks for the idea, though!

alabamaheretic wrote:Looks good i like the packs, you should also condier using the packs off the chimera sprue if you want them to look like foot sloggers. I think your vets that are airborne need rebreathers imo, the fw elysian heads come to mind again my opinion. at any rate still lookin good waiting to see more.

Thanks for the encouragement!

I'm leaving the footslogging up the the Vostroyans I really wish FW would release some IG head packs. I would love to put the Cadian Resperator heads on them, but you have to buy the whole torso and it's dang expensive!

Cheers,
Rawson

Forgeworld does do the elysian heads just sayin. i think they look cool than the cadian heads any day of the week, i think they are like 12 GBP for twelve head. not too sure hant been to forgeworld in a week or so. Well i got some pilot heads from my Vendetta you could use those too.

alabamaheretic wrote:Forgeworld does do the elysian heads just sayin. i think they look cool than the cadian heads any day of the week, i think they are like 12 GBP for twelve head. not too sure hant been to forgeworld in a week or so. Well i got some pilot heads from my Vendetta you could use those too.

You know, I never really liked the Elysians very much, but I checked out Forgeworld again after you said that they sell the heads (and to see how much their Vendetta Conversion costs) and the Elysians with resperators look awesome! They are still a little spendy at ~$13 for a pack of heads, but that might just be what I need to make an interesting attached unit (as long as I don't make too many more )

Thanks for the tip!

Cheers,
Rawson

no problem, the heads are pretty sweet. and damn the conversion kit i just got some LR LC and slapped them under the wings and called it a day. and snipped the tip off the sight of the lc i and slapped another barrell on the cockpit LC. any way, wheres the new WIPs at?

very nice work , you dont see many vostroyans , and your conversion work on them is first rate. liking the roughriders, i receantly did some napoleonic ones and i had the same problem with weaken lances, but after priming and painting they seemed a lot stronger.

neil101 wrote:very nice work , you dont see many vostroyans , and your conversion work on them is first rate. liking the roughriders, i receantly did some napoleonic ones and i had the same problem with weaken lances, but after priming and painting they seemed a lot stronger.

Thanks for the compliments, and especially the tip on the lances. That makes me feel a bit better that, after all of my hard work, the thing isn't going to fall apart

alabamaheretic wrote:no problem, the heads are pretty sweet. and damn the conversion kit i just got some LR LC and slapped them under the wings and called it a day. and snipped the tip off the sight of the lc i and slapped another barrell on the cockpit LC.

Yeah, I was kinda just price checking the vendetta kit (although what's the point with Forgeworld ). I am seriously thinking about ordering those heads. Now that it's the first of the month, that seems infinitely more possible than it did yesterday

alabamaheretic wrote: any way, wheres the new WIPs at?

Right here, buddy! Though I've been pretty busy at work, I have managed to sneak in a few games and work on the roughriders a bit.

I wanted to keep the original style of the chainsword, with the saber-style curved blade (is it still called a blade on a chainsword?) so I started working up a way to convert the normal IG chainsword that comes with the Cadians. I thought I would remove some of the blade (being careful to leave the chain intact) and carve some sprue to fit the curve I wanted. Then a little gs, and it's perfect, right? Not exactly.

Here's where I started...



The modified Cadian chainsword didn't turn out how I wanted, so I began working on converting the Attilan chainsword (which would also save me a step of attaching the sword to the hand of the roughrider). This is how it turned out. Thoughts? I'm not quite sure if it's done. Do I need to work on where the chain ends towards the hilt, or does it look okay as is?



Thanks for looking! CC always appreciated!

Cheers,
Rawson

I like the chainsword but I think it needs a little more work defiantly make it end closer to the hilt otherwise its looking great your army's really coming along.

Hope you get more time off work Dakka needs more updates!

Not too taken by vostroyans in general, but very nice work anyway. The Airborne guys are particularly tasty. However if they are running autoguns they need more magazines to hand The bakcpacks are a good start, but grenades and stuff... you know it makes sense

Regarding the RR reins, I think you will need to carve them away from the horse and replace with GS or equivalent. You could make a couple of flat sheets and trim even strips out of it?

Looky what I got...

Paranoia_Agent wrote:I like the chainsword but I think it needs a little more work defiantly make it end closer to the hilt

I think I agree with you. Consider it on my list of things to do, which means it will probably be done by the year 40k.

Paranoia_Agent wrote:otherwise its looking great your army's really coming along.

Hope you get more time off work Dakka needs more updates!

Thank you! Here's an update now!

Flinty wrote:Not too taken by vostroyans in general, but very nice work anyway. The Airborne guys are particularly tasty. However if they are running autoguns they need more magazines to hand The bakcpacks are a good start, but grenades and stuff... you know it makes sense

I've been playing with some of the smaller pouches, trying to get a more "backpack" feel. I'll see what come of it...

Flinty wrote:Regarding the RR reins, I think you will need to carve them away from the horse and replace with GS or equivalent. You could make a couple of flat sheets and trim even strips out of it?

Thanks for the idea. I hadn't really thought of starting from scratch. That goes on the list right after more chain on the chainsword.

So, roughriders, melta vets, and everything else has been playing second fiddle to the Vendetta these last two days. Here's a pic if you missed the spoiler:



I had gone into the local GW to pick up the last of my roughriders squad, which I had to send back because they sent the wrong one, and it turns out that they sent the wrong one again! So while the local GW employee was on the phone trying to figure out why we keep getting blisters labeled RoughRider 2 and contain RoughRider 3, I'm meandering about the store and end up buying the super-sweet Valkyrie kit. I can think of worse ways to spend a Friday. On the upside, they gave me the mislabeled roughrider for free. I'm still trying to decide if I can subtract the value of the roughrider from the price I paid for the Valk in the budget, or if I have to claim it all...

This is what a free roughrider looks like Very similar to a "paid full price" roughrider, but what the hey...


With the Vendetta, I still have a few things to work out:

1) I'm planning on running it as a Vendetta, but do I want to go to the trouble of magnetizing everything so I can run it as a Valk if I want to?
2) Doors open or doors closed? I quite like the idea of doors open, melta vets chomping at the bit to leap out to deal death and destruction. I also like the idea of not having to paint the interior.

3) I need to learn how to paint OSL. I think it will be a bit easier in the cockpit because you only have to use one color, but I still don't really know what I'm doing.
4) Head choice. I could order the Elysian Drop Troop Heads w/ respirators from Forgeworld. They are pretty awesome (and it's my birthday soon! ), and it comes with 12, which would be perfect for my 10 man squad and 2 man flight crew. Or I could use the shock troop heads like are on them now and the Valk pilot heads for the flight crew, which would be easier and cheaper and less awesome.

Thoughts? CC always appreciated!

Cheers,
Rawson

Well you know my Opinion on it i think you should rock the Elysian heads. well i kinda accidently painted my doors shut soooo... but its up to you. i kinda through a funky camo pattern on my vendetta, i'd at least magnetize the wing guns so you can switch to Hellstrikes or the rocket pods cuase lcs imho are just the shi...well you get the picture. have you thought about plasticard for the reigns then put a bit of gs to make look a tad lthicker? just an odd thought for you. not digging the chain saber, looks "flimsy" to me but it works for your units you could try to gs a proper bend if you want or you can taqke the Attilian chainsword and make a mold for it. well hope work doesnt eat all of your dakka time again.

alabamaheretic wrote:Well you know my Opinion on it i think you should rock the Elysian heads.

Believe me, I'm seriously considering it.

alabamaheretic wrote:well i kinda accidently painted my doors shut soooo... but its up to you. i kinda through a funky camo pattern on my vendetta, i'd at least magnetize the wing guns so you can switch to Hellstrikes or the rocket pods cuase lcs imho are just the shi...well you get the picture.

I think I'm going to go for doors shut. In the pics in the previous post, it seems like a real dilemma, but when I put the tail booms on, you can't really see the doors past the wings anyway, so...

alabamaheretic wrote:have you thought about plasticard for the reigns then put a bit of gs to make look a tad lthicker? just an odd thought for you.

That was kind of what Flinty was suggesting also. I think I'll give that a try.

alabamaheretic wrote:not digging the chain saber, looks "flimsy" to me but it works for your units you could try to gs a proper bend if you want or you can taqke the Attilian chainsword and make a mold for it.

Are you talking about the cadian first attempt, or the attilan prototype? The pic of the Cadian chainsword was WIP, I carved a bit of sprue to curve the tip a bit, but I didn't even take a pic of that because it was so aweful. The Attilan chainsword is beefy compared to a standard Cadian chainsword.

alabamaheretic wrote:well hope work doesnt eat all of your dakka time again.

Well, Thursday I fly to London for 5 days. I am literally home for 6 hours on Monday before I fly to Stockholm for 5 more days. I wouldn't be expecting any updates during that time. I'll do my best to get one or two more up before I fly out.

Thanks for the comments, 'Bama!

Cheers,
Rawson

Well, I've been working on the Vendetta and trying to answer the previous 4 questions. I think I've come to a few conclusions:

1) Magnetize it, baby! A few extra hours work and no chance of regrets.
2) Doors closed. You can't really see what's going on under the wings anyway.
3) Still need to learn how to paint OSL. I think I need to come up with a practice project first to try my hand. Any good suggestions?
4) I'm leaning towards the Elysian Respirator heads, but nothing's set in stone.

..and for the new question:

5) I've been contemplating switching the wings on the Vendetta. I think it looks sleeker, and I don't really like doing things stock, but I'm a little leary of chopping into it without getting some CC about it.

Here's what it could look like from the top (next to the standard construction)


...and a side view.


What do you guys think? CC please!

Cheers,
Rawson

Personally, I'm a fan of the standard Valkyrie construction.

Good looking stuff so far, not enough people who use the other IG lines. Subbed.

iactually i kinda like the wings swept back looks really good in my iho. well i think i was talking about the one that came witht he rough rider the one on the right...i think. hope your trips went well! looking for more from ya.

I really like your Vendetta conversion, great work!