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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 10:25:16
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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I have to say second from left, white power fist red sash ties in well with the rest of the unit's
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 12:40:35
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Agreed with LDD here, although the green is also good. Tanks looking promising though!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 13:13:18
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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WOW some one aggress with me  you poor fellow
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 15:52:04
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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im digging the second one ties into your army personally and still looks regulation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 16:52:41
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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a white powerfist??? i dunno who in their right mind would paint that weapon in that color to only have bloodstains and such ruin the perfect vision of purity...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 17:03:49
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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I think white or green would work best.. I'm very suprised at green, but it just looks right
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"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 17:05:10
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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I vote for army issue green
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 17:10:42
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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lol... i have a mental image now that wont go away... alabaster powerfist...lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 09:10:29
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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The fist would be wipeable
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 09:32:47
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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on someone others face for preferrence?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 10:56:35
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 10:59:39
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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ha ha ha...haha.. ha...cough...ha... no not really funny at all...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 11:09:51
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 15:10:05
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I would also use PC, you'll spend 8X as long waiting on GS to dry, and it will be harder to shape than PC. If I were doing this, I'd either cut rivet rod the same size as the existing rivets, or I'd shave all of the rivets and replace them all with plastic rod rivets. It sounds like more work, but it'll all match better IMHO. Automatically Appended Next Post: The Malcador rivets are also different than the Russ rivets. Automatically Appended Next Post: oh..and the tracks are molded onto the the rear part of the bogeys on the FW Malcador, that is probably why regular track links don't meet up properly there?
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/24 20:43:06
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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I'd shave all of the rivets and replace them all with plastic rod rivets
this is how a true artisan does it!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/28 10:49:25
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 22/9
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dsteingass wrote:I would also use PC, you'll spend 8X as long waiting on GS to dry, and it will be harder to shape than PC. If I were doing this, I'd either cut rivet rod the same size as the existing rivets, or I'd shave all of the rivets and replace them all with plastic rod rivets. It sounds like more work, but it'll all match better IMHO.
Hmmm, I'm much more comfortable with GS, but your logic seems sound. I'll have to think about that as we go further. Thanks for the tip, Dave!
Here's what's been going on with me:
Commissar-
I went with the Standard issue green PF. I put the warning label on the MSPaint version as a joke, but I loved it so much that it made it onto the model
Valdor-
Supply drop! (Hence the midday post: I'm so excited!  )
Now the Valdor has a main gun! A Volcano cannon from a stormsword
Some sort of CoD wall section that will serve as the generator for the Volcano Cannon
The cannon is a bit long, but not overly. I'm sure I can figure something out
Thanks for looking!
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/28 18:41:35
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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commissar is looking very good... the steet sign is hilarious... the green PF looks very good together with the rest of the commissar composition...
and those bitz will make your scratchbuilt look very cool!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/29 21:33:13
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Valdor Update 29/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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I got some work done on the Valdor this evening. I started the reconstruction of the front end: this is howfar I got
I'm starting to see why you guys said that it is actually easier to scratch build the entire thing than make super huge modifications to an existing model  But even so, I think that it's going pretty good. A little liquid GS, a few rivets, and we'll be good to go
I also started working on the track section as a whole. Here's about what it will look like:
I have some major decisions to make before we get too much farther, the biggest of which is what to do for the triple capacitor (or whatever that thing is on the side of the Valdor). I'm currently thinking of just using a modified sponson, but I'm not sure. Any ideas out there?
Also, I was thinking about making the Valdor playable as a LRBT. It would take some clever construction, but the versitility might be worth it (I don't have the IA book with the Valdor in it. Or even know which one it is for that matter!  )
I've special ordered this empire captian to make into my tanker
Not gonna lie, kinda excited about converting this guy!
CC greatly appreciated, as always!
Thanks for looking,
Rawson
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/29 21:41:42
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Good clean work so far matching up nicely, it will be entertaining to watch this progress a little GS will clean up any gaps a treat
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/29 22:09:32
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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the current work you did is stunning... wouldn´t have thought you could achieve that amount of detail matching up...respect!
as for that... the triple capacitor (or whatever that thing is on the side of the Valdor).
... i bet that is doable as a scratchbuild... if you use GS for the pipes... etc you can build that on your own...
and that mini looks very usefull and has some basic vostroyan feel about it already... and after your commissar resculpting i would be highly shocked if your work wont turn it into something awesome for your army... beside... that ´stache is screaming to be used for a cool mini!!! and the pose is oozing awesome sauce too^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/30 04:48:02
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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your tank is coming along nicely and really cool choice for your tanker!
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 17:00:20
Subject: Re:★ The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9 ★
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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^ What he said
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 17:26:37
Subject: ★ The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9 ★
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Good landship designs. (and you don't need FW  )
will the track roadwheels of your LANDSHIP thing ( sh.. i've forgot the name) visible in your version?
Also i'm considering expansion of my 500 pts army using 6th edition rules (which, local expert says it favors flyers). there are 4 choices I might choose first.
A. A battery of 3 Basilisks SPH
B. A battery of 3 Manticores MLRS
C. A squadron of Leman Russ series
D. 3 Valkyries/Vendettas, accompanying 2 Veteran grenadiers and a second CCS....
the choice D includes the introduction of 'vostroyan- lookalikes' troops made entirely of plastics. I don't plan to buy metal Vostroyan for the expansion is because of the V markings, which contradicts to my "1" and "K" markings. the materials i think it is best to make the 'pre-industrial' Guard Grenadiers is in this page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/479724.page . but I need you to judge which of the material choices are the best to make 'Vostroyans'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 17:35:52
Subject: ★ The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9 ★
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah, I would just use a standard Russ sponson then cover the open end with a riveted plate/vent thingie.
The capacitors look liek they could be made from metal conduit or even bitz from the IMEX chemical plant kit.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 21:09:37
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Thanks everyone for the great comments!
lone dirty dog wrote:Good clean work so far matching up nicely, it will be entertaining to watch this progress a little GS will clean up any gaps a treat
Thank you, LDD!The GSing stage is a wee bit further out still, but not too far
Viktor von Domm wrote:the current work you did is stunning... wouldn´t have thought you could achieve that amount of detail matching up...respect!
:bows: Thank you, sir!
Viktor von Domm wrote: as for that... the triple capacitor (or whatever that thing is on the side of the Valdor).
... i bet that is doable as a scratchbuild... if you use GS for the pipes... etc you can build that on your own...
I don't know about GSing the pipes. I know there is a tool out there that does great things, but I don't have one (of course  )
Rogue Wolves wrote:your tank is coming along nicely and really cool choice for your tanker!
Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:^ What he said
Thanks for the encouragement, guys!
Lone Cat wrote:Good landship designs. (and you don't need FW  )
will the track roadwheels of your LANDSHIP thing ( sh.. i've forgot the name) visible in your version?
Also i'm considering expansion of my 500 pts army using 6th edition rules (which, local expert says it favors flyers). there are 4 choices I might choose first.
A. A battery of 3 Basilisks SPH
B. A battery of 3 Manticores MLRS
C. A squadron of Leman Russ series
D. 3 Valkyries/Vendettas, accompanying 2 Veteran grenadiers and a second CCS....
the choice D includes the introduction of 'vostroyan- lookalikes' troops made entirely of plastics. I don't plan to buy metal Vostroyan for the expansion is because of the V markings, which contradicts to my "1" and "K" markings. the materials i think it is best to make the 'pre-industrial' Guard Grenadiers is in this page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/479724.page . but I need you to judge which of the material choices are the best to make 'Vostroyans' 
Thanks, LoneCat. I certainly hope to avoid the FW price  I'm not to the tracks/wheels stage yet, so we'll see. On the Malcador chassis, the wheels are much more visible than the standard LRBT. Not sure what advice to give on your choices, but they don't seem to line up points wise. As for the "Vostroyan" troopers, don't worry too much about the "V" iconography: there really isn't that much on your basic troopers (only a medalion on the Sergeant, iirc).
dsteingass wrote:Yeah, I would just use a standard Russ sponson then cover the open end with a riveted plate/vent thingie.
The capacitors look liek they could be made from metal conduit or even bitz from the IMEX chemical plant kit.
That's the current plan. Metal conduit, a la hardware store bits? I havn't heard of IMEX. What is that exactly?
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/04 21:40:38
Subject: ★ The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9 ★
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but I don't have one (of course )
you´re capable to sculpt it yourself!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 03:59:09
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Rawson wrote:
Lone Cat wrote:Good landship designs. (and you don't need FW  )
will the track roadwheels of your LANDSHIP thing ( sh.. i've forgot the name) visible in your version?
Also i'm considering expansion of my 500 pts army using 6th edition rules (which, local expert says it favors flyers). there are 4 choices I might choose first.
A. A battery of 3 Basilisks SPH
B. A battery of 3 Manticores MLRS
C. A squadron of Leman Russ series
D. 3 Valkyries/Vendettas, accompanying 2 Veteran grenadiers and a second CCS....
the choice D includes the introduction of 'vostroyan- lookalikes' troops made entirely of plastics. I don't plan to buy metal Vostroyan for the expansion is because of the V markings, which contradicts to my "1" and "K" markings. the materials i think it is best to make the 'pre-industrial' Guard Grenadiers is in this page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/479724.page . but I need you to judge which of the material choices are the best to make 'Vostroyans' 
Thanks, LoneCat. I certainly hope to avoid the FW price  I'm not to the tracks/wheels stage yet, so we'll see. On the Malcador chassis, the wheels are much more visible than the standard LRBT. Not sure what advice to give on your choices, but they don't seem to line up points wise. As for the "Vostroyan" troopers, don't worry too much about the "V" iconography: there really isn't that much on your basic troopers (only a medalion on the Sergeant, iirc).
wait? have you try putting High elf spearmen torso (or later, Plastic Lions of Charce) and cadian lasgun arms of any versions together and you found out it doesn't align so well?
V markings appears on 1 regular rifleman as well as on HB drum magazines, and sergeant too.
another reasons i'm consider doing plastic 'vostroyan lookalikes' is special weapons choices. they don't have meltas, and my veteran sarge is planned to wield better pistols. (in addition, Vostroyans don't uses Bazookas and ACs)
one more is that the 2nd commander will wear either tricornes or bicornes and wield different weapons to Graf Harazahn.
my IG http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/408342.page#3759653 as of now.
EDIT: it is 'High elf spearmen torso' not High elf spears. sorry for a little mistake
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 04:13:28
Subject: ★ The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9 ★
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SUCH CRAZY TANK MAKING!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 06:06:22
Subject: ★ The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9 ★
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Viktor von Domm wrote: but I don't have one (of course )
you´re capable to sculpt it yourself!
Well, I'm glad one of us is confident!
Lone Cat wrote:wait? have you try putting High elf spears (or later, Plastic Lions of Charce) and cadian lasgun arms of any versions together and you found out it doesn't align so well?
Uh...whut?  No...I've never tried putting High elf spears on cadian lasgun arms and found they don't align well.
cormadepanda wrote:SUCH CRAZY TANK MAKING!
GEE, THANKS
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 08:06:21
Subject: ★ The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 28/9 ★
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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oops i've forgot to add 'spearmen torso'  so do you think that that elven spearmen plastic bits and cadian shock troops fit well on making vet grenadiers?
the 'V' markings has no meanings in my IG army. they belong to celtic culture and not slavic ones, so gimme the reasons that convince me to buy metal vostroyans and how to get around with V iconography please.
L.
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