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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/17 22:56:53
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Update 17/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Night then Vik
Prototype_x so true so true
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/18 06:23:17
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Update 17/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Viktor von Domm wrote:ah that swashbuckling commissar i do own too... congratz... that was your reent evilbay win, non?
and yeah... do share your fluff with us... way better to name him then... of course writing fluff with an already named char is much easier
and cutting out the middle man in terms of basing material is always a worthy deed!
Yes, great deal on him, too! So pumped!
storag wrote:Hmm, that is a reference that I do not get...
Not a reference really, his surname just sound fitting to me. Adam Johann Ritter von Krusenstern was a 19th century russian (yes, russian nobility had little to none russian blood) admiral who led the russian first circumnavigation of the globe.
I see. I should tell my wife that I had a history lesson on Dakka today. She usually thinks it's pretty much useless  Thanks for the idea
Dr.Avalanche wrote: I have tried quite a lot of ways to highlight black, and the best and smoothest look I have achived is by following the John Blanche method from WD back in issue between 115 and 135, used for highlighting the black half of the first WFB Empire greatswords. It is rather easy and produces a "light black" colour rather than blue-ish or grey: Start with black undercoat, make a mix of black and Hawk Torquise about 3:1 for the first highlight, then add more HyouT for the next. Depending on how much patience you got, you can add a little a time and go for a lot of layers, or like I end up doing 9 times out of 10, two layers before the next "major" step: Add a tiny amount of white for the next to final layer, and then some more white (not much is needed) for the finish. If you want a worn look, add even more white and stipple/drybrush it onto the areas that see the most wear.
I'm sorry I can't come up with the exact issue of WD, but my collection is currently somewhere in the attick, perhaps some of the other oldtimers are able to track it down.
Thanks for the tip, Doc!  Don't worry about which WD issue, I don't have any (okay, I think I might have one somewhere). So the Turquoise produces a different effect than just blue then? I know Vitruvian also suggested HT, but it's lacking from my collection, so I used Enchanted Blue.
lone dirty dog wrote:Wats with all the commissars of late then  They are cool but why so many 
Well, there's only the two  I think I've been working so much on this last one (and he's been so popular) that I decided to pick up theother one as well. He doesn't have a place in my army currently, but I like him, so...
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/18 07:47:08
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Update 17/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Rawson after the popularity vote then, I am disappointed LOL
Commissars are pretty dam cool, cool look and total bastards perfect match
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 21:13:33
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Not sure I follow you there, LDD
Here's what I've been up to the last two nights:
Some basing done on the commissars:
I've been itching to use those birch pod whatevers. I'm really pleased with the result!
I still have a few things to sort out on this guy: how to paint the holster, what color hair (incl. moustache), to rust or not to rust the base
Picked up some cobblestone plasticard at the store yesterday and gave it a go with the new commissar. Turning out ok, I think. I've started blocking in some colors on him, too. I have a lot of color choices to sort out on this guy as well, mainly because I don't want to go with the standard "black coat, boltgun PF, gold trimmings" that most people do.
I also worked on this guy for a bit. Man, was that cable fiddley!
There are a few last sculpting things, but I mostly need to decide if I'm trying to make the new cable look a bit more plasma-y or leave it as is.
Thanks for looking! As always, CC much loved
Rawson
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 21:56:34
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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The 2nd one goes without changes? I thought you'll be adding some vostro-style stuff to it...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 22:08:20
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Update 17/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Rawson wrote:Well, there's only the two  I think I've been working so much on this last one (and he's been so popular) that I decided to pick up theother one as well. He doesn't have a place in my army currently, but I like him, so...
I hope this explains
The base on the first is a nice little piece, although I have to say I would prefer it without the birch leaves.
I also really like the back pack,what did you make that out of
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 22:11:27
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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storag has a point there... maybe a nice ´stache?
and i think the cable is as good as can be... but there is a bit of excess GS on the wielding hand...
and you let the leaves stay untouched and paint the rest of the base? interesting... i was always hesitant to mix natural stuff and painted stuff on a mini... but i agree... makes really nice leaves those birch thingies^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 23:09:41
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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both commissars are looking excelent rawson!
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"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/19 23:15:10
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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I live really close to Canada.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 07:58:38
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Thanks for all of the comments, guys!
Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
I live really close to Canada.
LOL
lone dirty dog wrote: Rawson wrote:Well, there's only the two  I think I've been working so much on this last one (and he's been so popular) that I decided to pick up theother one as well. He doesn't have a place in my army currently, but I like him, so...
I hope this explains
Now I got it
Rogue Wolves wrote:both commissars are looking excelent rawson!
Thank you, sah!
storag wrote:The 2nd one goes without changes? I thought you'll be adding some vostro-style stuff to it...
Viktor von Domm wrote:storag has a point there... maybe a nice ´stache?
I'm going with the fluff from the Imperial Guard Omnibus (I think it was the Vostroyan novel, now that I think about it) that Commissars never come from the same planet as the unit they are attached to. I think I'm pushing the envelope a bit with the first commissar, actually (to be explained in the fluff, whenever I get around to writing it). So no Vostroyan goodness for the second.
lone dirty dog wrote:
The base on the first is a nice little piece, although I have to say I would prefer it without the birch leaves.
I also really like the back pack,what did you make that out of
Fair enough about the leaves. I like them quite a lot, though
The backpack was quite an effort, but I'm really pleased with how it turned out  The main part is a standard IG vox (cut down and upside down and with a hole drilled in the center), the plasma reactor is the tip of some ramdom tau bit that I had, the two gubbins on top are from a Valk lascannon and an ork nob bike (I think).
Viktor von Domm wrote:and i think the cable is as good as can be... but there is a bit of excess GS on the wielding hand...
I was hoping someone would say that  I didn't really want to do anything else with it
As for the hand, it's quite a messy conversion point, partially because a) the plasma gun is significantly bigger than the lasgun that was there previously, and b) because I really messed it up while removing said lasgun. I'm still working on it. (You should see the other side: it's even worse!  )
Viktor von Domm wrote:and you let the leaves stay untouched and paint the rest of the base? interesting... i was always hesitant to mix natural stuff and painted stuff on a mini... but i agree... makes really nice leaves those birch thingies^^
I guess I've never worried about it too much. I actually prefer to leave the sand unpainted because I think it looks more realistic. Also now with the leaves.
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 08:26:50
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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So no Vostroyan goodness for the second. [img]
Poor guy...  He's loss then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 08:42:06
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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storag wrote:So no Vostroyan goodness for the second.
Poor guy...  He's loss then.
I'm glad you think so highly of Vostroyans, that someone be lost but to be like them  It was a little strange actually to plop a stock model on a base and prime him without any sort of conversion work. I think this model can take it, though. It's a great sculpt!
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 08:50:42
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Rawson that is some clean drilling then I thought it was like that, so the piece in the centre of the hole is from the Tau right.
That is nice use of pieces and the cable is tops, sorry forgot to mention that last time and no kinks in it, was it guitar wire or a zing job.
I never understood why Vostroyans got such a bad rap myself  they have a Napoleonic feel to them and look techy with it whats wrong with that.
Although some of the poses were a bit on the gak side, but that could be said about a lot of miniatures in other ranges.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 09:24:17
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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lone dirty dog wrote:Rawson that is some clean drilling then I thought it was like that, so the piece in the centre of the hole is from the Tau right. That is nice use of pieces and the cable is tops, sorry forgot to mention that last time and no kinks in it, was it guitar wire or a zing job. I never understood why Vostroyans got such a bad rap myself  they have a Napoleonic feel to them and look techy with it whats wrong with that. Although some of the poses were a bit on the gak side, but that could be said about a lot of miniatures in other ranges.
:bows: Thank you for your kind words. It was a bit fiddley, but it is convincing enough. The fact that people can't quite figure out what it is helps, the last thing I want is someone looking at my plasma gunners and thinking "Why does that guy have a voxcaster hooked up to a plasma gun? Are they counts-as Noise Marines?" And yes, the center part is a Tau bit. The cable is, in fact, a cannibalized a-string from my guitar. It was actually quite difficult to pull off, especially the shorter section from the pack to behind the gun stock. I didn't know Vostroyans had a bad rap at all! There are a few models that aren't my favorite sculpts in the world, but only one that I truly detest.
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 09:41:43
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Some forums I have been on seem to have a dislike for them, but I kind of liked the idea behind them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 13:36:10
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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In fact I like all the IG regiments out there, except for maybe Catachan. They all have some unique features and feel to them, which allows wide customisation. Vostroyans with their brass steampunk visuals are among most unique. Of course I mean the overal concept and not the outdated range of miniatures. It a sad thing that GW doesn't pay much attention to them but for a talanted modelist it's never a problem
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 21:20:47
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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lone dirty dog wrote:Some forums I have been on seem to have a dislike for them, but I kind of liked the idea behind them
Gasp! How could anyone not like Vostroyans?!?!?
storag wrote:In fact I like all the IG regiments out there, except for maybe Catachan. They all have some unique features and feel to them, which allows wide customisation. Vostroyans with their brass steampunk visuals are among most unique. Of course I mean the overal concept and not the outdated range of miniatures. It a sad thing that GW doesn't pay much attention to them but for a talanted modelist it's never a problem 
Though quite aged, the I don't think of the sculpts as outdated (especially when compared to Mordians, Tallarn, or Valhallans!)
I'll take that "talented modeler" bit as a compliment
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 22:47:08
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Gasp! How could anyone not like Vostroyans?!?!?
color me shocked too...
and as you said... compared to the almost the same looking basic mini from mordian and praetorian ... the vostroyan range is rather fresh in their looks...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/20 23:08:44
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Vostroyans are awesome.... period...
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 09:28:26
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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have yourself a party !^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 11:26:04
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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LOOK I DID NOT SAY IT  just some forums rip them to pieces I don't know why as I love the little guys and wish there had been more.
GW should make these in plastic could you imagine the conversion potential then
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 12:15:41
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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lone dirty dog wrote:LOOK I DID NOT SAY IT  just some forums rip them to pieces I don't know why as I love the little guys and wish there had been more.
Sometimes the messenger gets killed, LDD
GW releasing plastic Vostroyans is beyond my wildest dreams
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 13:43:59
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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hey.. hey.. I'm open to any type of life style, but thats just wrong
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:17:08
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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The last update to vostroyan ranks was before I even started the hobby... So they are pretty outdated to me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 15:00:01
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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storag wrote:The last update to vostroyan ranks was before I even started the hobby... So they are pretty outdated to me 
I guess I mean that I don't find them lacking in detail, which is what I associate with being outdated. If it aint broke, don't fix it
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 16:06:17
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Fair enough
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 20:31:43
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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i vote for plastic vostroyans any day of the week... that and plastic praetorians... not from other companies... i want my odd shaped GW bitz!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 21:32:02
Subject: Re:The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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What do you only like the big guys then RW
Automatically Appended Next Post: Viktor von Domm wrote:i vote for plastic vostroyans any day of the week... that and plastic praetorians... not from other companies... i want my odd shaped GW bitz!
Maybe we can get a petition together and demand they make a plastic box set of them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 21:56:43
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Commissar Update 21/9
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lone dirty dog wrote: What do you only like the big guys then RW
I'm all for witty banter, but I'm not touching this one with a ten foot pole lone dirty dog wrote: Viktor von Domm wrote:i vote for plastic vostroyans any day of the week... that and plastic praetorians... not from other companies... i want my odd shaped GW bitz! Maybe we can get a petition together and demand they make a plastic box set of them
Well, that's three signatures so far then... Here's what I did tonight:  I'm quite pleased with the non-metallic frogging so far  I still have a lot of things to figure out colors for: powerfist (not boltgun metal), frogging on his sleeve and pant leg, scarf trim. Any bright ideas? CC greatly desired! And in other news, I was watching Pearl Harbor whilst painting. Made me want to finish those hydras  Watching action flicks whist painting might also be why I'm such a slow painter Thanks for looking, Rawson
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Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 22:07:36
Subject: The Firstborn - Rawson's Vostroyans: Update 19/9
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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is the medal of that commissar actually with a band of green, white green? cool!!!
he looks very clean... for now... that´s got to change of course
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