well i am not too sure about blood angles beeing on my priority list above a wedding...but when it comes to n elysian drop troop styled army... i would be in serious trouble^^ and i corss fingers for your fiance not reading here^^...sanity preserved... and... a whole year for demo mode? hmmm...well me and my missus have lived and breed for 8 years together and then finally sealed the deal... now we wonder each day why...but such is life

Hey Rawson, your turn now (and just to show you your not the only one who has been beavering away)
Comments, criticism, advise, applause, cash, beer all accepted

http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/gallery-viewimage.jsp?w=800&i=298336&r=1&m=2

Other people have posted it already but I'll share as well- agreed on the "dirtier weathering" idea. Looks too "new and clean". Paint job and detailing is awesome, just needs that bit of dirt and mud.

Bit of a long day today, gentlemen, but I have a few things to show.

The new chimera model has lots of rivets all over it, which we love. Except for the turret, which is oddly devoid. Problem solved! (well, in progress of solving)


Also, the last 4 steeds have been riveted


Vik, thanks for the eagle eyes on Petr. Got those hairs and added a highlight.


Alright. That's enough witty banter from me. I'm off to bed.

Cheers,
Rawson

i think you´ve earned your nights sleep^^

chimera riveted, horses riveted^^...

cool!

sleep well!

The one, the only, Horse Riveter!

dsteingass wrote:The one, the only, Horse Riveter!

We should make him a banner!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Other people have posted it already but I'll share as well- agreed on the "dirtier weathering" idea. Looks too "new and clean". Paint job and detailing is awesome, just needs that bit of dirt and mud.

Fair enough. At some point I'll need to get around to that...

dsteingass wrote:The one, the only, Horse Riveter!

I lol'd a little bit

Capitansolstice wrote:We should make him a banner!

If you make me a banner, I will fly it proudly

Not a lot of work done tonight, but the 104th have racked up their first victories!

Two 1000pt games against Blood Angels, two resounding victories! To be fair, my opponent was just switching to Blood Angels, so he wasn't so familiar yet. On the other hand, these were my second and third games running IG, so...

Highlight Reel:
Game 1:
Sentinels Immobilize BA landraider on turn 1 (in Nightfight, no less) and make 5 CC Termies and their Chaplain footslog
LRBT make messes of Marines all night long.
FRFSRF guns down 3 footslogging termies
Roughriders get charged by assault marines, but the ogryn and Priest jump in and rescue them.
Blood Angels - Tabled, 104th - One sentinel and 4 Roughriders lost.
Game 2:
Land Raider NOT immobilized and disgorges CC termies right in front of my gunline. Troopers die by the thousands.
Petr Ychenko gets hit in the chest with a thunderhammer and lives to tell about it
Lone Assault Marine with melta jumps behind a LRBT and immobilizes it.
LRBT traverses turret and shoots Lone Assault Marine at point blank range with the Battle Cannon.
Priest leaps out of immobilized chimera and jacks up a land raider with his eviscerator
Sentinels stomp CC terminators to death, preventing them from contesting the objective held by the PCC

Here's a pic of the glorious 104th


Cheers,
Rawson

Nice!

ah the famous connonfodder horses with no riders^^

congratz for you stomping the angels of bloody hell^^

show them who wears the REAL red in this world!


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"Blood Dosent count as RED!!!"

Capitansolstice wrote:Nice!

I thought so...

Viktor von Domm wrote:ah the famous connonfodder horses with no riders^^

Yeah, the Roughriders aren't exactly finished, but their loyal steeds made an appearance

Viktor von Domm wrote:congratz for you stomping the angels of bloody hell^^

Why, thank you!

Rogue Wolves wrote:show them who wears the REAL red in this world!
"Blood Dosent count as RED!!!"

Huzzah! What is that quote from?

From what I see they look pretty good. Good to see a Vostroyan player, not too many out there.

@Rawson, its from nothing, i just made it up! although im sure it has been said before

also blood turns to an ugly brown when it dries... so it really doesn´t count^^

very true!

How did you get the horses to sit still when you were Riveting them?


Those two matches sound amazing. You should post a full Batrep if you can remember it well enough.

Your Infantry looks awsome, and you paint them so well!! the normal cadian scheme i have gets boring sometimes

Iur_tae_mont wrote:How did you get the horses to sit still when you were Riveting them?

Trade secrets

Iur_tae_mont wrote:Those two matches sound amazing. You should post a full Batrep if you can remember it well enough.

I'm not really a huge fan of full battle reports. Just like sporting events, they have their boring parts and the highlights are just as good in less time.

dakka farta wrote:Your Infantry looks awsome, and you paint them so well!! the normal cadian scheme i have gets boring sometimes

Thanks, Farta! I started collecting Vostroyans because I thought they were so un-boring

I had another game at the FLGS. 1000pts vs. Grey Knights. It was a really good game, though kind of one sided.

Highlights:
4 Rouighriders charged an inquisitor and his retinue (including death cult assassins). All 4 died before even getting to attack. That's the last time I try that...
2 LRBTs decimated tactical squads. I could really get used to watching Marines scramble for cover
Priest with Eviscerator killed a Nemesis Dreadknight and sloughs of marines before being felled by the GK Librarian. What a champ!

Game ended with one objective occupied by the 104th, one objective contested, and one free (which I would have occupied if the game had not ended on turn 5)

So far the 104th is 3-1-0! Not bad, I say

i am seriously amazed that a priest can go toe to toe with a dreadknight....wow... and i bet that is a grand feeling to see the fleeing marines before your cool LRBT... true poeer of the rivets i suspect here at work^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:i am seriously amazed that a priest can go toe to toe with a dreadknight....wow...

Well, to be fair he had some Ogryn bodyguards to soak up some wounds. But he did all the damage...

Viktor von Domm wrote:and i bet that is a grand feeling to see the fleeing marines before your cool LRBT... true poeer of the rivets i suspect here at work^^

Oh so grand

*widest grin*

somehow one can really get into the mood to bash those powergeeks...if i wasn´t into IG already... now would be a perfect moment to^^

also i think i need priests and Eviscerators...and ogryns too... still the old issue for me...argh... need to get that GS monster rolling again...

Viktor von Domm wrote:also i think i need priests and Eviscerators...and ogryns too

Most of the Tactica stuff I read give Priests with Eviscerators and Ogryn somewhat poor rating, especially together. The ogryn don't benefit from Righteous Fury, and the Priest with Eviscerator is a whopping 60pts, but they sure are effective if you can get them dug in. It actually works quite well because (as long as you position the priest to not be in BtB with too many folks) the Ogryn, with their high toughness and wounds, almost guarantee the priest getting to swing that giant chainsword around.

The battle report was cool , glad you trounced them ;-)

well... i only ever saw a cool model of a priest from shaso...his brother orlov...



mostly i would make such models for the look of the thing...

Viktor von Domm wrote:well... i only ever saw a cool model of a priest from shaso...his brother orlov...

I also thought about doing the sentinel chainsword conversion, but imho it is just too big (if such a thing is possible in the grimdark )

Viktor von Domm wrote:mostly i would make such models for the look of the thing...

That's where I started with my priest: I dreamt up a cool conversion, and now he's actually accomplishing some good stuff!

are we refering to this one here:



which is a cool conversion right there... asigmar priest of WHFB if i am not wrong...

i have played with that kind of conversion in my mind too...

Viktor von Domm wrote:are we refering to this one here:



which is a cool conversion right there... asigmar priest of WHFB if i am not wrong...

i have played with that kind of conversion in my mind too...

Thanks! We certainly are refering to this one, and you're certainly correct. I thought the WHFB feel fit in well with the Vostroyans and I'm pretty happy with how he turned out. I'm not totally happy with the paint job yet, so I'll probably do some more work on him in the future...

does he have white eyes? like he has rolled up eyes as a madman? lol... how fitting...^^ and i really think it is a fitting mini...only some of reaperminis could fit that well for a priest...

3-1-0 NOW I SaY GO 13-1-0!!!!


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Viktor von Domm wrote:are we refering to this one here:



which is a cool conversion right there... asigmar priest of WHFB if i am not wrong...

i have played with that kind of conversion in my mind too...

This is a good one, although i'd use a converted ork chainsword for the blade, as it is bigger

^^

Yeah, I really want to find that mini of the Priest with the two-handed Eviscerator, that is the best priest I've seen.

Rogue Wolves wrote:3-1-0 NOW I SaY GO 13-1-0!!!!

This is a good one, although i'd use a converted ork chainsword for the blade, as it is bigger

I'll do my best! As I said before, I didn't want to get too big. He only has strength 3 and as is, the sword is taller than he is!

dsteingass wrote:Yeah, I really want to find that mini of the Priest with the two-handed Eviscerator, that is the best priest I've seen.

You'd be hard pressed to find that particular one. It's based on the WHFB Empire Priest with Great Weapon, with a SW chainsword for an eviscerator, the Sigmarite icons shaved off, and Imperial bits added or GS'd

Loving this army bro, well done and nice convertions

Pomyboy wrote:Loving this army bro, well done and nice convertions

Thanks, Pomyboy! One can never have too many comments like these

He looks great, just the sort of chap who would fit inan Inquisitorial warband.....mmmmm.....need to visit Bitzbox etc to check out parts cost


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Btw, Rawson, well done on your scalp tally so far, flippin' impressive!!

Rawson wrote:[
4 Rouighriders charged an inquisitor and his retinue (including death cult assassins). All 4 died before even getting to attack. That's the last time I try that...

I'm confused at how you are surprised that a few guys on horseback got blowed up into to tiny little bitz by a heavily armed and armored mega-stat entourage... though I suppose you could have protested and state the rivets conferred a better armor save.

Sounds like a great game overall.

i like the point you made about the extra armor save due to rivets... that is the spirit!^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:

Right back atcha!

butchyboy73 wrote:


He looks great, just the sort of chap who would fit inan Inquisitorial warband.....mmmmm.....need to visit Bitzbox etc to check out parts cost

Btw, Rawson, well done on your scalp tally so far, flippin' impressive!!

Thank you and thank you! Good luck on your own conversions!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
I'm confused at how you are surprised that a few guys on horseback got blowed up into to tiny little bitz by a heavily armed and armored mega-stat entourage...

Mostly it was me just being uninformed. You know, I thought that 12 S5 I5 power weapon attacks would have a decent impact. Then I found out that a lot of his guys had I6. That was more of a factor, as they weren't really heavily armed and armored. Well, now I know...


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Maybe I should be working on something that is actually on my Vostroyan to-do list, but I started a random side project. I thought even a side project update would be preferable to another combat report. This is, after all, a PM blog I present to you: Vostroyan Marbo!

Here's what I have so far:

It's been a bit interesting getting exactly what I want (and I still don't have all the details worked out yet) but I'm happy with the progress, and we'll see where this goes! I'm especially happy with the ripper pistol...

CC greatly desired, as always.

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

Right back atcha!

taken^^


as for the new mini... could you provide us with the former model look? i have a difficulty atm to really tell heads from tail... but i think charecters like marbo are always fun to watch being made from scratch...

Viktor von Domm wrote:
as for the new mini... could you provide us with the former model look? i have a difficulty atm to really tell heads from tail... but i think charecters like marbo are always fun to watch being made from scratch...

Here's the GW version


Mine is based off of a Vostroyan sniper model.

that one?



this could really get interresting...the night goggless and the other details could really give the model a new edge...

Marbo is an amazing character, game wise, he has won me COUNTLESS victories by his suicide charges and demolition abilities. Glad you chose him should be an interesting conversion and all

Viktor von Domm wrote:that one?



this could really get interresting...the night goggless and the other details could really give the model a new edge...

Picy no worky for me. I hope it's an interesting conversion...

Rogue Wolves wrote:Marbo is an amazing character, game wise, he has won me COUNTLESS victories by his suicide charges and demolition abilities. Glad you chose him should be an interesting conversion and all

Yeah, I started working on this guy after reading a few Tactica articles. Seems that the worst thing people can say about him is that he's such an obvious choice that he's now unoriginal...

Well I for one AM taking him when I start my dream army, and he will be modeled after Solid Snake! So as long as you go about your own modeling (although the offical model is cool) It should always be original, ecept my idea because im sure someone has done it before

Well, my apologies on the lack of updates with the Firstborn. Life has been a bit too interesting lately to have time for them. And, I am sad to say, no updates will be forthcoming for a few weeks, as I'm flying back to the US today for Christmas(unless I get some good stuff for Christmas and take a pic for you all )

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!

Rawson

Welcome back home Rawson! Merry Christmas!

yeah! merry christmas to everybody...and not a mere christmess^^

Love the idea of vostroyan marbo! Was in an apocalypse game where he took out a command LR with calgar in in (albeit with a vortex grenade, who cares about details) and then det-packed a stompa making it explode!

welcome back rawson, merry christmas and happy holidays to all!

Rawson wrote:Well, my apologies on the lack of updates with the Firstborn. Life has been a bit too interesting lately to have time for them. And, I am sad to say, no updates will be forthcoming for a few weeks, as I'm flying back to the US today for Christmas(unless I get some good stuff for Christmas and take a pic for you all )

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!

Rawson

and the Merriest of Christmases to you and yours, Rawson and to one and all on this site

Its like an evil/communist Mr. Clean...

lol^^

Ja Kommandant Klean! In Soviet Russia, Mr Klean gets washed by YOU!

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/11/30/300352_sm-Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard.JPG

wow , he looks cool already mate.

kommandant klean...lol but i see your point^^

I really like the conversion of flamers into meltas, makes it look more rustic and fits in with the vostroyan feel. Also the ogryns are a really good conversion although competitive-wise I dont know how useful they will be, but still, good work!

Lovin the Work, even love the fact that "Creed" is hiding as a Vostroyan. Damn that Creed, they seek him here, they seek him there. Merry Christmas too.

LOLZ

neil101 wrote:http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/11/30/300352_sm-Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard.JPG

wow , he looks cool already mate.

Thanks, Neil! I'm excited about how he's turning out, but it's been taking more effort than I expected to get the arms right. Now I think I'll have to file off the pouches on his right side to get a good position for the right arm.

djdutton wrote:I really like the conversion of flamers into meltas, makes it look more rustic and fits in with the vostroyan feel. Also the ogryns are a really good conversion although competitive-wise I dont know how useful they will be, but still, good work!

Thanks and thanks! Yeah, Ogryns might not be the most competitive unit choice, so who knows if they'll make it into the final list, but I think they look cool

mwnciboo wrote:Lovin the Work, even love the fact that "Creed" is hiding as a Vostroyan. Damn that Creed, they seek him here, they seek him there. Merry Christmas too.

Thanks! Vostroyan Creed is one of my favorite conversion ideas, but I'm not very happy with the results. I got a used model off of eBay and it didn't strip very well, so he lost a LOT of detail. I'd like to give it a second go with the new finecast version someday.

dsteingass wrote:

Merry Grimdarkmas!

If Creed is metal I can recommend using Isopropyl Alcohol, (like ACETONE FREE Nail Polish Remover) this stuff is cheap and totally safe with Metal, it is also better than anything I have ever used (and I have used a fair amount of stripping agents). It will come off in 1 hour, if it is stubborn however give it 24 Hours and it will gone, I mean gone, the Alcohol literally breaks this stuff down to fine particulates at the bottom of your dish.

at rawson... welcome back to the united states of A.?

at dstein... cool...i will now reconsider my holiday vacation plans... seems you spotted the ideal place for a happy holiday shootout...

lol...read this at first...

If Creed is mental I can recommend using Isopropyl Alcohol, (like ACETONE FREE Nail Polish Remover) this stuff is cheap and totally safe

mwnciboo wrote:If Creed is metal I can recommend using Isopropyl Alcohol, (like ACETONE FREE Nail Polish Remover) this stuff is cheap and totally safe with Metal, it is also better than anything I have ever used (and I have used a fair amount of stripping agents). It will come off in 1 hour, if it is stubborn however give it 24 Hours and it will gone, I mean gone, the Alcohol literally breaks this stuff down to fine particulates at the bottom of your dish.

Does the acetone free stuff work better than the normal stuff? That would explain a lot, since I just used the normal stuff and it didn't work so great

Viktor von Domm wrote:at rawson... welcome back to the united states of A.?

Yes, thank you! And I will be seeing a fair amount of the country while I'm back! Visiting my parents, my wife's parents, friends up north, a wedding in Washington, ang a wedding in Texas. Phew! I thought this was supposed to be vacation!

Wooh! come on up to Illinois and stop on in at the bunker!

@Rawson, yeah Acetone makes wierd things happen to paint, and also to Plastic and Resin. Isopropyl Alcohol is an alternative to Acetone and much safer, but do not leave Plastic or resin in Isopropyl Alcoholo for more than 30mins or they go all soft and wierd.

@Viktor, it's true CREED is all kinds of Mental, he's like that Illusionist, David Copperfield. He can make a titan invisible in plain sight.

lol... mwnciboo... lol...yeah^^ he is cool...and the mini i own is still waiting for the day it gets the right treatment to join my troops in the right fashion...i just love the model...!


at rawson...be sure to look after your two ladies! that amount of traveling sounds quite a big helping...

Really nice job!

Hello again!

Sorry for the lack of updates over the holidays, but I think I noticed a similar trend over all of Dakka so I hope there's no hard feelings

I'm usually not one to post pictures of boxes, but this is too tasty not to


and aparently, the Customs Authority saw fit to check out the Firstborn firsthand


Four boxes of firstborn gives me 40 troops, but with the HB, flamer, and sergeant, that leaves only 24 with lasguns. I cleaned up half of them tonight (with a few bayonet removals for variety), and hope to do some head swaps or other nifty things on some of the rest of them.


More work on Marbo tonight. I need to come up with a sweet Vostroyan name for him.
Front

Side

Top (sorry for the bad pic, but it really only serves to get a feel for the weapon alignment, so: mission accomplished)


I had some left over GS, so I picked up an old concept that I had been working on: the prone sniper. I modeled a knit cap on him since the other three snipers are lacking the traditional Vostroyan furry hat.


As always, love you hear your thoughts on the projects.

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

Lookin good man!

Gotta love your right to privacy eh!
Big Brother is Watching YOU!

hello back again rawson!

now there must have been some one a real good boy all over the last year!

so many fresh faced firstborns...^^


the marbo mini of yours reminds me somehow...i dunno why, because he doens´t even look remotly like him...of yuri from C&C...



had this flash about that name...

as for the prone sniper...knitted cap sounds good... also i would make this sniper one of the few that is not actually aiming... let him crawl... that would be something new...

anyway... good to have you bback and fully loaded so to speak^^


cheers, vik

dsteingass wrote:Lookin good man!

Thanks, buddy!

dsteingass wrote:Gotta love your right to privacy eh!
Big Brother is Watching YOU!

Right? Tell me that 28mm miniatures look like a bomb in the x-ray

Viktor von Domm wrote:hello back again rawson!

now there must have been some one a real good boy all over the last year!

so many fresh faced firstborns...^^


the marbo mini of yours reminds me somehow...i dunno why, because he doens´t even look remotly like him...of yuri from C&C...



had this flash about that name...

as for the prone sniper...knitted cap sounds good... also i would make this sniper one of the few that is not actually aiming... let him crawl... that would be something new...

anyway... good to have you bback and fully loaded so to speak^^


cheers, vik

I don't know why he reminds you of Yuri either, but I'll take all the ideas I can pilfer
The non-shooting pose is an interesting idea. I dug out some magnoculars from my bits box and am playing around with that pose as well. Thinking outside the box!

dugs in bitzbox and then thinks outside the box...hurhurhur...

well i more thought about the lowest form of movement... crawling to the firening spot...gun in both hands and moving forwards with just toes, knees and elbows... like the drill sarge ordered...

Rawson wrote:Hello again!

Sorry for the lack of updates over the holidays, but I think I noticed a similar trend over all of Dakka so I hope there's no hard feelings

I'm usually not one to post pictures of boxes, but this is too tasty not to


and aparently, the Customs Authority saw fit to check out the Firstborn firsthand


Four boxes of firstborn gives me 40 troops, but with the HB, flamer, and sergeant, that leaves only 24 with lasguns. I cleaned up half of them tonight (with a few bayonet removals for variety), and hope to do some head swaps or other nifty things on some of the rest of them.


More work on Marbo tonight. I need to come up with a sweet Vostroyan name for him.
Front

Side

Top (sorry for the bad pic, but it really only serves to get a feel for the weapon alignment, so: mission accomplished)


I had some left over GS, so I picked up an old concept that I had been working on: the prone sniper. I modeled a knit cap on him since the other three snipers are lacking the traditional Vostroyan furry hat.


As always, love you hear your thoughts on the projects.

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

How about "Dimitri Reznov" for your CA Marbo?

That Marbo looks great!

marbo looks soo awsome, the sniper looks cool too

Viktor von Domm wrote:well i more thought about the lowest form of movement... crawling to the firening spot...gun in both hands and moving forwards with just toes, knees and elbows... like the drill sarge ordered...

That particular pose would be a bit tough, as his left arm is tucked under his chest. The "spotter" type pose followed soon after...

Galorn wrote:How about "Dimitri Reznov" for your CA Marbo?

Not bad. Definately in the running! Thanks for the idea!

Flying Pooo wrote:That Marbo looks great!

Thank you, Pooo. You are a scholar and a gentleman

Rogue Wolves wrote:marbo looks soo awsome, the sniper looks cool too

Thanks on both counts, RW!

Love the pose on the Marbo Conversion and all those new Vostroyans are making me smile something fierce!

I had a similar run in with TSA, I was carrying on my metal army and dice bag, long story short my dice were scattered across the security checkpoint at LAX when the TSA agent upended my bag.

Hmelrose wrote:Love the pose on the Marbo Conversion and all those new Vostroyans are making me smile something fierce!

Thanks! I tried to ask my wife what she thought of the pose, and she didn't really understand the question. As for all of the troops, I'm still reveling in my stellar eBay purchase, but that's an aweful lot of troops to paint

Hmelrose wrote:I had a similar run in with TSA, I was carrying on my metal army and dice bag, long story short my dice were scattered across the security checkpoint at LAX when the TSA agent upended my bag.

Touche. I'll take my anonymous inspection over your random search any day

Rawson wrote:

Hmelrose wrote:Love the pose on the Marbo Conversion and all those new Vostroyans are making me smile something fierce!

Thanks! I tried to ask my wife what she thought of the pose, and she didn't really understand the question. As for all of the troops, I'm still reveling in my stellar eBay purchase, but that's an aweful lot of troops to paint

Hmelrose wrote:I had a similar run in with TSA, I was carrying on my metal army and dice bag, long story short my dice were scattered across the security checkpoint at LAX when the TSA agent upended my bag.

Touche. I'll take my anonymous inspection over your random search any day

I know all about having lots of troops to paint! I've got over 200 Mordian Iron Guard to paint up. I try to explain to the ladies that having a unique and individualistic model, not anything generic helps to make my work stand out amongst the crowd. I'm like an artist. I want my sculpts and work to be considerably geeky and awesome while making everyone else ooh and aww.

Oh yeah, dice bag upended on those metal tables = bouncing dice everywhere and me immediately hitting the floor scrambling to catch them all. I can only imagine what everyone else in line thought I was doing when TSA pulled me to the side and I hit the deck.

That particular pose would be a bit tough, as his left arm is tucked under his chest. The "spotter" type pose followed soon after...

that was not to be seen from that angle...hmm...^^

Viktor von Domm wrote: that was not to be seen from that angle...hmm...^^

Excuses excuses I guess you could always blame the photographer, whoever that is...

shoot him on sight... bet that would be whillst shaving...^^

A Vostroyan, shaving his mustache?
Total Heresy!

dsteingass wrote:A Vostroyan, shaving his mustache?
Total Heresy!

Call the Inquisition!

dsteingass wrote:A Vostroyan, shaving his mustache?
Total Heresy!

Right? And the official GW line has three models with no mustache! Whoever is in charge of quality control over there needs to get canned!

Capitansolstice wrote:Call the Inquisition!

More like call the =]_,= they could rivet a mustache on there in no time

riveting a stche... now that is some delicate surgery...

So now that I've got my Marbo based and primed (as well as the first round of troopers), I need to figure out a good color scheme for him. I don't think the standard Vostroyan theme makes so much sense for him (as he's supposed to be all sneaky like ). I don't mind the red so much, as it's quite brown-y by the time I'm done with it, but the gold certainly has to go. I could paint the coat standard red, and I'm thinking do the armor in kommando khaki, a medium gray, or black. The cloak I think will be a camo cloak style with khaki base and brown/grey markings. What do you guys think? Any better schemes out there?

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

Umm, Union rules are :We don't answer unless you show pics first. Section 7, Par. 9. It's like asking me what color to paint a Wollywampus! I first have to SEE a Willywampas before I can tell you what color to paint one.

dsteingass wrote:Umm, Union rules are :We don't answer unless you show pics first. Section 7, Par. 9. It's like asking me what color to paint a Wollywampus! I first have to SEE a Willywampas before I can tell you what color to paint one.

Sorry to make you go back one page and see the pictures Here, let me save you the trouble and repost:

Rawson wrote:
More work on Marbo tonight. I need to come up with a sweet Vostroyan name for him.
Front

Side

Thanks man!
Medium Grey or a Prussian Bluish-greyish uniform color sounds cool

It works with red spot colors too

i too had said grey... but where i am a bt off from your ideas is the camo... for vostroyans as i understand them...no camo... brass and shiny all the way... well you can forgo the brass but camo...no way... black would be fine too... maybe then a somewhat comissar like scheme...you know with red trimmings rather than red on big surfaces... the cloak could look rather like the hobbits claoks they got from the woodelves...you know...LotR style...

Well, today was my day off, so I got a decent amount of stuff done and even fit in a game!

1000 pts vs. Eldar. Couldn't make an armor or cover save if I wanted to, and my opponent couldn't miss one. I was getting hosed in KP, but we were playing an objectives match. I went second, and at my turn five, he held two objectives and I held one. My LRBTs pounded his troops to dust (with a little help from a nearby Chimera) and at the end of my turn it was me with one objective and him with none! Then we rolled and of course went on to turn six Game ended with each of us holding no objectives So we draw... Marbo made an appearance, but did absolutely nothing. Demo charge scattered too far, didn't manage to get into CC with the Wraithlord (which would have been nice since my HWTs got obliterated without getting to fire a shot) and only killed one guardian. Veterans made a good showing, mowing down a buch of aspect warriors.

Worked on the LRBTs, trying to get them WYSIWYG (since I had gotten the old apoc 3x set that didn't come with many options).

So I got the lascannons off of the front (which took a bit of doing, actually) and magnetized some heavy bolters that I had in my bits box (I think from SM landspeeders)

(Excuse the above pic, it's a bit washed out)

Here's the new little guys. People can hate all they want on the gunboat Leman Russes, but I love 'em.


I also started on another project that I dreamed up:

Question of the day: What can you make out of these two troopers?



Lastly, I've been second guessing the attached airborne squad and am more leaning towards Vostroyan colors and troops. Pilfer the meltas from the airborne squad and do some interesting weapon swaps. Thoughts?

As always, CC welcome and desired!

Thanks for looking,
Rawson

well with bolters...that look will always be classy so what can one say^^

as for the game... seems the dicegods weren´t in favor for both of ye...but if fun was still in it for you...who cares who won...^^

the kneeling or better soon to be kneeling sniper...that will be one heck of GS work ... as for the hat issue...how about hte already mentioned by you tricorne...that would be fitting for vostroyans...you could do it by yourself in GS or you might find a suitable headswap with pirates or some napoleonic minis out there... but could be a good idea!

as for the last question of yours...hmmm i seem to be in a state of bafflement as to what you want to be answered here...or for short...i am lost^^

hmm i like the pose of that one metal model alot, the one on the right.. and as for airborne, i've been backing the vost. colors since day one so that i agree with

Viktor von Domm wrote:well with bolters...that look will always be classy so what can one say^^

Thank you, sir!

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the game... seems the dicegods weren´t in favor for both of ye...but if fun was still in it for you...who cares who won...^^

It was fun, in a panic causing sort of way

Viktor von Domm wrote:the kneeling or better soon to be kneeling sniper...that will be one heck of GS work ... as for the hat issue...how about hte already mentioned by you tricorne...that would be fitting for vostroyans...you could do it by yourself in GS or you might find a suitable headswap with pirates or some napoleonic minis out there... but could be a good idea!

Yeah, I'm starting to be a bit more adventurous with the GS. We'll see how it goes! As for the hat, I was thinking less Tricorn, more

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the last question of yours...hmmm i seem to be in a state of bafflement as to what you want to be answered here...or for short...i am lost^^

Sorry, it seems that my clear, descriptive writing abilities were lacking last night. I have a primed Valkyrie on my workbench and I need to pick a color scheme. Originally I thought that the Valkyrie (the hi-tech, hovering aircraft part) didn't fit the Vostroyan theme, so I was going the have the 9th Brathian Airborne (or whatever the name ended up being) attached to the 104th Vostroyan Mechanized. That's where these guys came in:

But now I'm second guessing myself and think it would look more weird to have one random unit in my army than to have a Vostroyan Valkyrie. I'm leaning towards Vostroyan colors and converting up some sweet Vostroyan meltagunners (because GW, in their infinite wisdom, don't make Vostroyans with meltas).

Rogue Wolves wrote:hmm i like the pose of that one metal model alot, the one on the right.. and as for airborne, i've been backing the vost. colors since day one so that i agree with

Thanks, buddy! All I needed was a little push over the edge

ah...now i understand what hats/caps you meant...we used to call these "pisschen" ... and i wont translate this for any of you^^ because this might not suitable...beside i doubt if bubblefish could^^

also...for the troop issue... you said it was already primed your valk...hmmm...then it is a tough choice...or do you still see a possibiity to vostroyan up the valk? add more rifets and maybe get some more chunky rocketlaunchers form an empire set? fatty recently showed me a cool set...:





also maybe you could do the same with those troops like ezekiel did...just make some furr on their shoulders...to tie them in with the rest of your troops...

Yes, that hat is called a "campaign hat" officialy, but US soldiers refered to it also in a way I cannot repeat here

(crude word for female anatomy part-hat)

lol...it could mean that in german as well...seems soldiers are all alike all over the world^^

for the hat, defenatly try gs that nice pointy one.. and like vik said, as i am now a proud owner of most of the empires nice artillery, (STEAMTANK!!) alot of their peices could help in giving a nice vost/steam punk vibe

Hey Rawson, i doubt you'll appreciate my opinion on this too much, but i really reckon you should abandon those guys for this army and start again with some converted vostroyans for the airbourne squad, especially if you considering changing the paint scheme on the Valk. Means more work but you've done such a good job on the rest of the army that i reckon you could do great things with some GS'd vostroyans.

And as for those current airbourne guys, well, they'd make a cool bodyguard for some inquisitor.......

Hi Rawson et al, long time, no tuppenceworth from yours truly.Great to see the Vostroyans go from strength to strength that battle you had sounds great; no retreat, no surrender, fight to the last man etc my sympathies are with you viz a viz marbo. Nothing worse than investing a character with a lot of hope and believe and finding he fails to deliver. Had a similar prob with my Sanguianry Priest in Termie Armour. Shouldn't have painted him white cause all that happened was he was targetted by everyone on the opposing side and when I needed him to do his stuff, he failed miserably
Anyway, I digress; my tuppenceworth ref kneeling sniper. I reckon a GS hat similar to this chaps
http://www.toysoldiers.com/products-soldiers/images/firstlegion/nap0110.jpg
(sorry, couldn't copy and paste the pic )
alternatively, to make life a little easier, why not use a Valhalan head,one with a forage cap on it. I would imagine it would be easier to GS a moustache onto it.
As for your Valk, how about a german grey or battleship grey colour scheme with sky blue under the wings and belly of the Valk? No idea yet about the airborne component of your army; Vostoyanised weaponry and equipment maybe....
Okay, that was thruppence worth but, hey, who's counting

was afriad to suggest what axlbush said...but he sure has a point there... your vostroyans need to be lft on their own...no mixing with other minis...i too would suggest getting a vostroyan only army...

well, there is no reason to not include them, fluff-wise, as IG regiments travel from theatre to theatre, they either get reinforcements from their homeworld's foundings, or they get incorporated into other remnants. With the Firstborn, they are still pumping out replacements all the time, but the warp doesn't always allow things to synch up due to the way time flows differently. IG regiments might end up popping back into realspace in a different time, or a different segmentum, possibly never able to catch a lift back.

Like in the novel Fifteen Hours, one accidental number transposed by some bored-to-death administratum clerk ends up sending a ship full of new Jumael 14th Volunteers to the wrong planet, and the survivors end up being absorbed by the 902nd Vardan Rifles. The Navy isn't going to bother transporting them back to their own, men are the cheapest resource the Imperium has.

Wow! Whole load of comments!

Viktor von Domm wrote:you said it was already primed your valk...hmmm...then it is a tough choice...or do you still see a possibiity to vostroyan up the valk? add more rifets and maybe get some more chunky rocketlaunchers form an empire set? fatty recently showed me a cool set...:

Well, I think the rocket battery might be a bit big for the valk, but I'm sure there are more ways to Vostroy-ify it. I'll check it out

Viktor von Domm wrote:also maybe you could do the same with those troops like ezekiel did...just make some furr on their shoulders...to tie them in with the rest of your troops...

I'm not a huge fan of the furry shouldered Cadians. (no offence EZ). I more like what Axlbush said:

Axlbush wrote:as for those current airbourne guys, well, they'd make a cool bodyguard for some inquisitor.......

I'm just going to store them away for the moment.

dsteingass wrote:Yes, that hat is called a "campaign hat" officialy, but US soldiers refered to it also in a way I cannot repeat here

Fair enough Seems like soldiers always come up with crazy nicknames for things

Rogue Wolves wrote:for the hat, defenatly try gs that nice pointy one.. and like vik said, as i am now a proud owner of most of the empires nice artillery, (STEAMTANK!!) alot of their peices could help in giving a nice vost/steam punk vibe

The more I think about the forage cap, the more I think I'll stick with the Vostroyan hat. I really like the sculpt of that trooper and the Vostroyan hat goes down much further than a forage cap (all the way to his shoulders), which would make the sculpting quite difficult, I think. I'm more leaning towards giving him a cloak to visually tie him into the squad.

Axlbush wrote:Hey Rawson, i doubt you'll appreciate my opinion on this too much, but i really reckon you should abandon those guys for this army and start again with some converted vostroyans for the airbourne squad, especially if you considering changing the paint scheme on the Valk. Means more work but you've done such a good job on the rest of the army that i reckon you could do great things with some GS'd vostroyans.

Well, you read my mind, Axlbush. That's what I did today at the FLGS: started chopping up some lasgunners to convert into meltagunners! (so I guess I really do appreciate your opinion )

butchyboy73 wrote:Hi Rawson et al, long time, no tuppenceworth from yours truly.Great to see the Vostroyans go from strength to strength that battle you had sounds great; no retreat, no surrender, fight to the last man etc my sympathies are with you viz a viz marbo. Nothing worse than investing a character with a lot of hope and believe and finding he fails to deliver. Had a similar prob with my Sanguianry Priest in Termie Armour. Shouldn't have painted him white cause all that happened was he was targetted by everyone on the opposing side and when I needed him to do his stuff, he failed miserably

I feel ya on that one. He did a bit better today, but still didn't make up his points.

butchyboy73 wrote:Anyway, I digress; my tuppenceworth ref kneeling sniper. I reckon a GS hat similar to this chaps
http://www.toysoldiers.com/products-soldiers/images/firstlegion/nap0110.jpg
(sorry, couldn't copy and paste the pic )
alternatively, to make life a little easier, why not use a Valhalan head,one with a forage cap on it. I would imagine it would be easier to GS a moustache onto it.

Thanks for the ideas! As I said before, I'm kind of headed in a different direction with him (and he's in line behind the meltagunners and Valk )

butchyboy73 wrote:As for your Valk, how about a german grey or battleship grey colour scheme with sky blue under the wings and belly of the Valk? No idea yet about the airborne component of your army; Vostoyanised weaponry and equipment maybe....
Okay, that was thruppence worth but, hey, who's counting

I'd like to keep some color consitancy with the Valk scheme, but I like the two tone idea. I'll have to see where that goes...

Viktor von Domm wrote:was afriad to suggest what axlbush said...but he sure has a point there... your vostroyans need to be lft on their own...no mixing with other minis...i too would suggest getting a vostroyan only army...

On it (see above). Us Vostroyans are a reclusive bunch and don't take kindly to outsiders (but put up with the Commisars for obvious reasons )

My most sincere thanks to all of you fine gentlemen for your comments!

So, tonight I headed over to the FLGS (twice in a week! We're breaking records here!) I had another game against my Eldar opponent from Tuesday. Another draw, but this one felt better Not a whole lot of highlights: my two LRBT double teamed his Wraithlord and blew him off of an objective he was contesting, and the priest had a valiant showing, defeating a Farseer and a warlock in CC (but he only rolled a 2 to consolidate and got caught in the open the next turn :()

Lessons learned: Armored Sentinels are armored in the front for a reason. In turn 4, my three sentinels turned to shower his jetbikes with autocannon fire (which exposed their side armor to his warwalkers with scatter lasers). By my next turn, I only had one sentinel left

On a project note, I used the club dremel to prep my troopers for meltaguns and a few headswaps. Nothing really to show yet, but keep an eye out.

I've been dreaming up Vostroyan pilots for the Valk (since it currently has Elysian heads on the pilot and gunner) and think I'll shoot for something like this:

I think the tanker heads (with the soft skull caps on) would make a great starting point. Thoughts?

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

yes...i think i have seen the tankcrew heads used in so many ways... i think they are aa good start... and those goggles could be done by simply cutting tubed styrene...

i am really interrested now to see that lasgun to melta conversion!

Rawson, are you looking for any more snipers? I don't know if this has been brought up before, or you're aware of them, or whatever, but Khador widowmakers might make for some Vostroyan-able minis. Maybe even some other Khador stuff for other things.



Everything's continuing to look great though. Keep it up!

Viktor von Domm wrote:yes...i think i have seen the tankcrew heads used in so many ways... i think they are aa good start... and those goggles could be done by simply cutting tubed styrene...

Now if only I had some tube styrene...

Viktor von Domm wrote:i am really interrested now to see that lasgun to melta conversion!

Patience is a virtue, my young friend

Zefig wrote:Rawson, are you looking for any more snipers? I don't know if this has been brought up before, or you're aware of them, or whatever, but Khador widowmakers might make for some Vostroyan-able minis. Maybe even some other Khador stuff for other things.



Everything's continuing to look great though. Keep it up!

Thanks for the tip, Zefig! I'm not really in the market for any more snipers (I've got five either finished or in some stage of construction). They are more of a fun build that a part of the army list I'm working on, and are behind quite a few things on my to-do list. Sweet models though, I'm not really up on anything non-GW...

patience? whut?

Rawson wrote:

Viktor von Domm wrote:also maybe you could do the same with those troops like ezekiel did...just make some furr on their shoulders...to tie them in with the rest of your troops...

I'm not a huge fan of the furry shouldered Cadians. (no offence EZ). I more like what Axlbush said:

none taken, loving the look of your LRBTS by the way, those gun boats make IG what they are....and basilisks....plently of basilisks
also for you sniper teams if you can get your hands on the spotter from the lascannon team (link to gw site http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1080054)on idividual bases or on a dread base together (three teams of 2, spotter and sniper) they would go very nice together...one spotting ...one shooting !!


Good Hunting !!!


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ignore my stuff about the spotters ...i missed ur last two posts :S

Eziekiel wrote:loving the look of your LRBTS by the way, those gun boats make IG what they are....and basilisks....plently of basilisks

Thanks, EZ! They've always treated me well I'm not a huge fan of the basilisks, the 36" minimum range makes for a lot of gameboard that can't be shot at. Some clever positioning by your opponent and they're pretty much useless.

Eziekiel wrote:also for you sniper teams if you can get your hands on the spotter from the lascannon team (link to gw site http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1080054)on idividual bases or on a dread base together (three teams of 2, spotter and sniper) they would go very nice together...one spotting ...one shooting !!

Not a bad idea at all, and kind of fits with actual sniper teams. I had thought about magnoculars for the prone guy instead of shooting, and the lascannon guy would make two. Just one more spotter... I'll have to think about it! (I have a Valk to paint and some melta vets to convert before I get back to the snipers anyway )

Eziekiel wrote:ignore my stuff about the spotters ...i missed ur last two posts :S

No worries

Two games tonight at the FLGS! I'm up to 1200 pt games with the 104th Mechanized, with the recent addition of a Vendetta and Melta Vets.

First game versus Tau: Tons of terrain, as you can see!

Highlights
Scout move vendetta, SEIZE THE INITIATIVE!, Melta vets deploy and destroy (I think I just coined a new phrase!) a hammerhead.
Firewarriors take casualties, fail their morale test, and run off the board.
PCS ties up Shadowsun in CC for three rounds.
More firewarriors take casualties, fail their morale test, and run off the board.
Marbo tosses a demo charge and takes out two broadsides and their two drones.
Close call at the end, when a devilfish zoomed in to contest my objective, but didn't quite make it.
Solid Firstborn Victory!

Second game versus Flesh Tearers:
Highlights:
Immobilize one of two stormravens on turn one.
Non-immobilized stormraven dumps Gabriel Seth 1" from my combined squad. Seth assaults, kills six troops, Firsborn miraculously cause 1 wound, then proceed to fail their morale test and a caught in a sweeping advance. Things are not looking good.
My PCS manages to sneak away, and Seth is distracted by the charging ogryn. My Melta Vets line up on the Stormraven, which is when my opponent kindly reminds me that Stormravens are immune to melta effects
The good news is that Battle Cannons are AP3, and Marines start dying by the handful.
The Flesh Tearers are shortly out of scoring units, and my lowly PCS hides behind a wall and secures victory out of a very grim looking game!

That brings the 104th Mechanized to 5-3-1. Not bad, I'd say!

Old game vs Eldar:
Here's a pic, the highlights are a few pages back somewhere.


Ever since I decided to scrap the attached airborne squad, this is what I've been frantically working on:

Melta-vets to ride in the Vendetta! Some work to do on them yet, but nothing a little GS won't fix CC always appreciated!

Thanks for looking,
Rawson

Hey mate, good effort on the melta lads. This is a proper example of "the simple solution is often the best". I was expecting some hardcore hacking up of models but they are looking good.
Are you gonna be adding backpacks? Similar to the ones you agonised over on the original squad?

Axlbush wrote:Hey mate, good effort on the melta lads. This is a proper example of "the simple solution is often the best". I was expecting some hardcore hacking up of models but they are looking good.

Thanks, Axlbush! The only real hacking was to perform the head transplant of the trooper on the right. The rest was pretty simple: just remove the bits that make it look like a lasgun At least with the Vostroyans, their standard lasgun has quite a unique stock, so just dremeling the laspack, and clipping of the barrel are enough. Then pop on a few melta bits, and VOILA!

Axlbush wrote:Are you gonna be adding backpacks? Similar to the ones you agonised over on the original squad?

I know, I really did agonize over them, didn't I? I won't be adding them to these guys (though it would be kind of funny). I'm sure that Airborne squad will see some action someday...

congratz for that nice winning record!


as for the meltas... the conversions looks convincing and pretty good! but could you give us another shot of that one GS head? the fur looks great...how did you do that? it is very good looking and not overdone...looks rather fluffy^^ and even more interresting... would love to see the face...

VICTORY FOR THE IG!!! and im liking the looks of the new airborn, is there a way i can see the face of the gs hat one?

Excellent and simple work on that melta conversion! Keep up the great work!

Cool models and conversions, love your tanks!

Viktor von Domm wrote:congratz for that nice winning record!

Thank you! I'm quite proud of the 104th!

Hmelrose wrote:Excellent and simple work on that melta conversion! Keep up the great work!

Mantle wrote:Cool models and conversions, love your tanks!

Thanks, guys! I appreciate the encouragement!

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the meltas... the conversions looks convincing and pretty good! but could you give us another shot of that one GS head? the fur looks great...how did you do that? it is very good looking and not overdone...looks rather fluffy^^ and even more interresting... would love to see the face...

Rogue Wolves wrote:VICTORY FOR THE IG!!! and im liking the looks of the new airborn, is there a way i can see the face of the gs hat one?

"Ask and ye shall receive"

It's an Empire outrider head. The cheek guards don't really follow the Vostroyan theme, but they're not too far off, so I left them. The GS hats I make with an exacto knife instead of a sculpting tool. The sharp point makes it easy to make small, raised shapes (like, fur for example). I make small "V"s to create the texture. Hope the pic and explanation were satisfying to all!

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

aaahhh... outrider heads... one of my favorite choces too...! and you did use the skullhead one too!

i think that is an excellent work mate!

Viktor von Domm wrote:aaahhh... outrider heads... one of my favorite choces too...! and you did use the skullhead one too!

i think that is an excellent work mate!

Thank you, Sah! ::salute::

noe onwards to more fellow soldiers worthy to protect the emperor!

Viktor von Domm wrote:noe onwards to more fellow soldiers worthy to protect the emperor!

Or to bed, whichever comes first!

sleep?...now that is too an option...but needs to be rewarded first^^

hehe i know that head well i have quite a few of those! nice choice too

Rogue Wolves wrote:hehe i know that head well i have quite a few of those! nice choice too

Thanks, Rogue!

Bit of a sick day for me: lame to have the flu, but nice to have a guilt free day on the couch painting up the 104th!

Got a handful of the new troops and Marbo based


Got a little assembly line going: first coat of red and even started in on the gold.


Tried out foundation paint for the first time: khemri brown (to be followed by my beloved Kommando Khaki). I was wishing for DSTs new airbrush: the Vendetta is a deceptively big model!


More of a productive day than exciting, but good none the less.

Thanks for looking,
Rawson

without the hoped/wished for airbrush your vendetta looks very good... and i do have to say... with the mouth watering work of dave we all long now for these...

and good work with the assembly line painting...already the hallmarks of the 104th are to be recognized!

oh...and get better soon...that time of the year we all will have to have someor the other form of the flu...my family is currently untroubled...but that can practically be changed within the hour...kids drag everything back home from the kindergarten...it is a thing that would marvel even old papa nurgle...

an airbrush would make your life alot easier, but i had to paint my vendetta the ol' fashion way and it is still one of my favorite models i have painted

Nothing to add, just saying "hi" and still following along.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Nothing to add, just saying "hi" and still following along.

Well, "Hello" to you, too! I guess I can't accuse you of lurking anymore

Hello Dakka!

Yesterday was (in addition to another sick day) productive enough on a painting level. The Firstborn that I've been painting are no longer embarrassing to put on the game table. They aren't done by any means, but I've at least got blood red, shining gold, scorched brown, and elf flesh on them.

I have three issues that I would appreciate bright ideas on (one big one and two little one)

The big issue:
Tuesday was the first time fielding my Vendetta, and the process revealed an engineering oversight on my part: how do I transport this thing?

As you can see, with the current, non-collapsable model, it would take almost an entire tray by itself. I would like to figure out a way to get it in my army case since I usually bike to the FLGS. I have three ideas currently: 1) remove the wings and magnetize them. This is the best option, imo, however I attempted to remove them this morning to no avail. I imagine this would take some serious surgery. 2) Remove the tail and magnetize that. Same idea as the first. Easier to execute, but doesn't free up as much room. Would require cutting off the tail booms just behind the transport bay. 3) Just get a seperate box to carry it in. Not ideal, but saves me from having to hack up the Valk.

The little issues:
First) I cannot for the life of me get the flying stand attachment to stay on the belly of my Valk! I have four pins in it and it still comes off! Any bright ideas?

Second) I picked up CA Marbo last night to start painting him yesterday, but I still don't have a scheme that I'm excited about. I had been thinking about the grey idea from Vik and DST, but wasn't sure on the execution.

Grey jacket, gunmetal armor (washed with Badab, of course), and black camo cloak? That would be sufficiently sneak looking right? He has a "V" with a circle around it on his left shoulder. I was thinking about painting that red and gold to tie him into the Vostroyans.

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

4th option: Modify your bike/carrying option.

For this, we need a pic of your bike. Do you hand carry the case? Do you transport it in a backpack? Do you have panniers/saddlebags or a bike rack?

Hmelrose wrote:4th option: Modify your bike/carrying option.

For this, we need a pic of your bike. Do you hand carry the case? Do you transport it in a backpack? Do you have panniers/saddlebags or a bike rack?

Do you really need a pic of my bike? It's raining outside and it's nice and dry inside I have your standard GW army case with shoulder strap. I just sling it over my back. One Tuesday I borrowed my wife's handlebar basket and put my Valk in that. The problem was that we didn't have any boxes that it would fit in. Either barely too small or massively too big. If I could find the right box, it wouldn't be so hard to modify it to be the permanent carrying method for the Valk.

I got a similiar problem. My ork army is growing and it wont fit in my box anymore. The only thing I can think of is to put some of the vehicles in a back-pack.

Rawson wrote:

Hmelrose wrote:4th option: Modify your bike/carrying option.

For this, we need a pic of your bike. Do you hand carry the case? Do you transport it in a backpack? Do you have panniers/saddlebags or a bike rack?

Do you really need a pic of my bike? It's raining outside and it's nice and dry inside I have your standard GW army case with shoulder strap. I just sling it over my back. One Tuesday I borrowed my wife's handlebar basket and put my Valk in that. The problem was that we didn't have any boxes that it would fit in. Either barely too small or massively too big. If I could find the right box, it wouldn't be so hard to modify it to be the permanent carrying method for the Valk.

Ah, you sling your load. hmm... building a box or case would be an option. Depending on the shape of the bike frame there are a variety of bags and baskets/cases which attach to the frame. If you have a rear fender support you can attach a box or crate to it. If you've got saddlebags or panniers, that could help. the bike racks look like: http://www.rei.com/product/806157/delta-cycle-megarack-super-sherpa-rear-bike-rack-2009-closeout
and can generally be attached one to the front wheel and one to the rear wheel, then you just attach a box to it as needed or get bags which attach to the rack like these:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=bike+panniers&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=6934655593741792711&sa=X&ei=bKQaT_iYIZD1sQKXs8zDCw&ved=0CKUBEPMCMAI

I'd recommend the Valk go into a cardboard box and then into a bike bag if you go that route.

You've already discussed cutting and magnetizing the model. That might be your only option, you'll still need a box though.

the excellent work continues and I stand in awe of your work ethic, Rawson. As for getting your Vendetta to your FLGS, does it not fit into the box it came in? If so, could that not be reinforce with ducttape and some blocks of foam fitted into it to hold said Vendetta in place? I will have a similar problem when my IG army is ready for the battlefield only I have 3 Valks/Vendettas to transport! Like you I cycle to my local wargaming club and I'm thinking to tape one of my Valks to the top of my cycle helmet to let my fellow gamers now who I will be fielding that day!!

As for the Valk... well... you could hand it to em, saves you lots and lots of transport. But you could also indeed get a nice box for it, fill it with foamy stuff, and carry it like that.

As for Marbo... why make him sneaky? Your army doesn't really look like its going to sneak anywheres, so why should he? A Marbo in gala dress uniform could be just as acceptable.

Keep it up, love this stuff so far!!

You need another Valk-sized tray.

dsteingass wrote:You need another Valk-sized tray.

The problem would be still fitting everything else in the case, especially at higher point levels. I do have another army carrier, though with smaller tray sizes. Maybe I carry the smaller stuff in that one to make room in the big one. Worth thinking about...

MauS wrote:As for the Valk... well... you could hand it to em, saves you lots and lots of transport. But you could also indeed get a nice box for it, fill it with foamy stuff, and carry it like that.

As for Marbo... why make him sneaky? Your army doesn't really look like its going to sneak anywheres, so why should he? A Marbo in gala dress uniform could be just as acceptable.

Keep it up, love this stuff so far!!

A lot of the guys at the club keep everything there, but I'm not really feeling that option. It makes the spontaneous hobby evenings tough. I probably will go with the separate box plan. Hacking up the Valk and magnetizing it seems pretty daunting.

Good idea on Marbo! I'll have to think about that one!

butchyboy73 wrote:the excellent work continues and I stand in awe of your work ethic, Rawson. As for getting your Vendetta to your FLGS, does it not fit into the box it came in? If so, could that not be reinforce with ducttape and some blocks of foam fitted into it to hold said Vendetta in place? I will have a similar problem when my IG army is ready for the battlefield only I have 3 Valks/Vendettas to transport! Like you I cycle to my local wargaming club and I'm thinking to tape one of my Valks to the top of my cycle helmet to let my fellow gamers now who I will be fielding that day!!

Hmmm, a Valk helmet. I like it! The box it came in is indeed too small.

Hmelrose wrote:

Rawson wrote:

Hmelrose wrote:4th option: Modify your bike/carrying option.

For this, we need a pic of your bike. Do you hand carry the case? Do you transport it in a backpack? Do you have panniers/saddlebags or a bike rack?

Do you really need a pic of my bike? It's raining outside and it's nice and dry inside I have your standard GW army case with shoulder strap. I just sling it over my back. One Tuesday I borrowed my wife's handlebar basket and put my Valk in that. The problem was that we didn't have any boxes that it would fit in. Either barely too small or massively too big. If I could find the right box, it wouldn't be so hard to modify it to be the permanent carrying method for the Valk.

Ah, you sling your load. hmm... building a box or case would be an option. Depending on the shape of the bike frame there are a variety of bags and baskets/cases which attach to the frame. If you have a rear fender support you can attach a box or crate to it. If you've got saddlebags or panniers, that could help. the bike racks look like: http://www.rei.com/product/806157/delta-cycle-megarack-super-sherpa-rear-bike-rack-2009-closeout
and can generally be attached one to the front wheel and one to the rear wheel, then you just attach a box to it as needed or get bags which attach to the rack like these:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=bike+panniers&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=6934655593741792711&sa=X&ei=bKQaT_iYIZD1sQKXs8zDCw&ved=0CKUBEPMCMAI

I'd recommend the Valk go into a cardboard box and then into a bike bag if you go that route.

You've already discussed cutting and magnetizing the model. That might be your only option, you'll still need a box though.

I hate the idea of spending hobby budget on transportation, and I'll probably make due with what I have before resorting to some crazy bike system. See my thoughts on DSTs comment.

Thanks for all of the input, guys!

You need to quit thinking inside the case. The most important part is that you have the foam tray to protect it sufficiently. Then, the case doesn't really matter. Feel free to mix foam types/mfrs of trays, hell even a cardboard box will suffice to hold the foam tray.

as i have nothing productive to say about transportation issues i will comment on the marbo one...

i have to second MauS comment here... yeah do him in parade uniform...that would look nice... tho then you could probably use a different head...oh fear i am stuck again^^...

dsteingass wrote:You need to quit thinking inside the case.

Is that like thinking outside the box I'm with you on the protection, no matter what the solution is, she'll be surrounded by warm and loving foam.

Viktor von Domm wrote:as i have nothing productive to say about transportation issues i will comment on the marbo one...

Having nothing productive to say has never stopped you before

Viktor von Domm wrote:i have to second MauS comment here... yeah do him in parade uniform...that would look nice... tho then you could probably use a different head...oh fear i am stuck again^^...

I certainly am tempted. We'll see what happens.

Having nothing productive to say has never stopped you before

says the man that doesn´t show us new updates...d´oh...

Viktor von Domm wrote:

Having nothing productive to say has never stopped you before

says the man that doesn´t show us new updates...d´oh...

I think the lowpoint of any day would be being compared to Homer Simpson

would you rather prefer al bundy...?

How about you Magnetize the wings and the tail? Then you could literally just stuff it in the case

Problem is, on a Valk, the wings really do make up the structural strength of the model. IMHO, I think the Valk deserves to be in-tact, just for the "whoa factor" when you take it from it's case and place it on a table for competition. I only magnetized the hardpoints/weapon mounts on my Valk.

Viktor von Domm wrote:would you rather prefer al bundy...?

This is a dark path you travel down, Von Domm. Tread carefully.

Capitansolstice wrote:How about you Magnetize the wings and the tail? Then you could literally just stuff it in the case

That would have been the ideal solution. The problem lies in my already assembled Valk, and how to remove the wings for magnetization. I tried tearing them off to no avail, so removal would include (but not be limited to) cutting, chopping, and probably breaking.

i couldn´t bear you cutting off those beautiful wings...
i say, make your own case...foam won´t be that hard to find.. and cutting it to shape...well...

the base issue of yours is much more interesting.... if i were you...i would do a scenic base for that valk... one with big oily clouds and some nice debris at the base...this all could cover up some serious mounting devices...like:

Rawson wrote:

Viktor von Domm wrote:congratz for that nice winning record!

Thank you! I'm quite proud of the 104th!

Hmelrose wrote:Excellent and simple work on that melta conversion! Keep up the great work!

Mantle wrote:Cool models and conversions, love your tanks!

Thanks, guys! I appreciate the encouragement!

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the meltas... the conversions looks convincing and pretty good! but could you give us another shot of that one GS head? the fur looks great...how did you do that? it is very good looking and not overdone...looks rather fluffy^^ and even more interresting... would love to see the face...

Rogue Wolves wrote:VICTORY FOR THE IG!!! and im liking the looks of the new airborn, is there a way i can see the face of the gs hat one?

"Ask and ye shall receive"

It's an Empire outrider head. The cheek guards don't really follow the Vostroyan theme, but they're not too far off, so I left them. The GS hats I make with an exacto knife instead of a sculpting tool. The sharp point makes it easy to make small, raised shapes (like, fur for example). I make small "V"s to create the texture. Hope the pic and explanation were satisfying to all!

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

you did use the "Imperial Cuirassier" head. do you intend ya vostroyans to wear metal helmet covered w/ furs?

Lone Cat wrote:you did use the "Imperial Cuirassier" head. do you intend ya vostroyans to wear metal helmet covered w/ furs?

I don't think I thought it through that far I liked the face, and the cheek plates would have been hard to remove.

i like the cheaky plates^^ gives them a nice addition... maybe they even could count as some kind of wysiwyg extra armor...

My Fellow Dakkanauts!

A long day at work today, but I squeezed in some modeling after I got home.

I have a game tomorrow to prepare for, and I need a sergeant who can lead his troopers into holy battle armed with the very might of the emperor himself!
(Read: blob squad needs a power weapon)



After getting 4 boxes of firstborn, the same 10 models start getting a bit old, and I dream up sweet (if complicated) conversions. Here is the latest! He still needs some GS and cleaning up, but he's well on his way. I am pretty happy with how he is turning out! A couple of thoughts running through my mind: is the sword too big? And I was contemplating heresy (read: no Vostroyan hat). GASP! I don't know, just an idea, but his head has so much character, I thought it could be cool without it... CC much desired on both thoughts and whatever else you all might dream up.

Well, it's late here. I'm headed to bed.

Thanks for looking,
Rawson

for the sword you should at least make a guard...without it looks odd... the shape of it looks very much cleaver like... something definatly not often to be seen as a powerweapon^^

as for the bald head... could work...if you like that you should go for it...on my part i probably would do the fur head ...but that is just me as i think this is one major part why i like your vostroyans... but to have something new once a time is also nice... so i am rather not helpful here i see LOL

if your not going fur hat, i would at least do a fur colar of some sorts

D you have this magic endless bin of metal minis! lol

Viktor von Domm wrote:for the sword you should at least make a guard...without it looks odd... the shape of it looks very much cleaver like... something definatly not often to be seen as a powerweapon^^

On my to-do list. I am debating shaving off the back spike thing, so the sword would be straight on the back and a bit curved at the tip on the front.

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the bald head... could work...if you like that you should go for it...on my part i probably would do the fur head ...but that is just me as i think this is one major part why i like your vostroyans... but to have something new once a time is also nice... so i am rather not helpful here i see LOL

Okay. The hat would certainly be eaisier, as I would need to GS ears and neck muscles and whatnot. So we'll see. Just a random 2am thought I had

Rogue Wolves wrote:if your not going fur hat, i would at least do a fur colar of some sorts

Good point, he might need something to tie him in to the others...

dsteingass wrote:D you have this magic endless bin of metal minis! lol

and everyone knows the metal minis are the bestest! Such a pain to convert!

or place the hat on the ground, i like the bald head

you could cover up the muscles on the neck with a fur collar...and i like that idea of sageheart to have the furhat laying on th base... as if he had to draw in a hurry and now in all that hussle he lost it...

as for the sword... either you want a more sabre like or falchion like sword... either option would suit the fluff well... but i think getting rid of the backspike thingy would look better... a real cossak sabre...

as for ears... as a layman... somehow that diesn´t sound too complicated... i think ears could /should be fairly easy... but then again...^^

Sageheart wrote:or place the hat on the ground, i like the bald head

I was going to say something like this, or else have it hanging from his belt or off the back of his head via a strap, or you could put a hat rack on his base and hang a hat from there.

The sword needs a hand guard, kinda like Jacobean ones.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=jacobean+sword&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1366&bih=643&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=Bzhq6MGDpzkKaM:&imgrefurl=http://www.livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D4%26t%3D26898&docid=UKfSmsk5tVP_VM&imgurl=http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i295/buggersgrips/Swords%252520C16th/guardoutside.jpg&w=640&h=480&ei=_4EeT4fPPMy_8gPlm9yoDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=345&vpy=147&dur=2128&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=156&ty=131&sig=116392471324893647801&page=1&tbnh=130&tbnw=162&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0
Like this, that would look good!

I hate saying this because I'm all about support, but that's my least favorite model you've done so far. The head looks huge, way out of proportion to the rest of the model. It's neck looks too long, the head is scaled significantly larger than the rest of the model, and based on the rest of your work overall I know you can do much better than that.

The concept is solid, and I think a bald-headed Sergeant w/ his hat on the ground (blown off by a close shot perhaps?) would look very cool and add some character for sure.

i would like to see this head used... i shaved off the helmet/hat of this one and the mustache is something your current head lacks...

Had a game at the FLGS tonight. Always a good time!

Vs Grey Knights Highlights:
Scout move Vendetta to his board edge. SEIZE THE INITIATIVE! Vendetta drops meltavets next to his dakka dread. Two penetrating hits: and of course he has the psychic power to shrug off crew stunned results. So he turns and blows my Vendetta out of the sky.
His dreadknight shunt moves into combat with my Armored Sentinels which manage to keep him tied up for the rest of the game (especially since he was about 18" from my blob squad )
My chimera get immobilized (by a heavy bolter of all things) even with smoke. Turns around and blows up a nearby rhino (carrying marines hurrying to attack my other vet squad holding an objective) with the turret multilaser. Karma.
And the showstopper of the night: His terminator librarian (whose 5 terminator body guards had already been dispatched and who already had suffered a wound from perils of the warp) stood in the face of a 20 man combined squad (thats 18 lasguns and 2 las pistols) who had successfully received a FRFSRF order (thats 56 las shots), suffered 15 wounds, and saved every last one of them. So much for statistics.

Sageheart wrote:or place the hat on the ground, i like the bald head

Hmelrose wrote:I was going to say something like this, or else have it hanging from his belt or off the back of his head via a strap, or you could put a hat rack on his base and hang a hat from there.

Viktor von Domm wrote:you could cover up the muscles on the neck with a fur collar...and i like that idea of sageheart to have the furhat laying on th base... as if he had to draw in a hurry and now in all that hussle he lost it...

Well, I worked on the base some before I saw these ideas. Now he looks like this:

I like the chaos termie head (because it's the power armor stuff that makes the power sword useful). But it wouldn't be hard to remove if the hat idea is better. (I guess this is kind of related to the head discussion further down) Thoughts?

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for the sword... either you want a more sabre like or falchion like sword... either option would suit the fluff well... but i think getting rid of the backspike thingy would look better... a real cossak sabre...

Imperial Monkey wrote:The sword needs a hand guard, kinda like Jacobean ones.

I haven't started working on the GS yet, but I added a little curveture to the top section (to get rid of the cleaver feel ) I like it better this way, but it still seems too broad. What do you guys think? Should I make it narrower?

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
I hate saying this because I'm all about support, but that's my least favorite model you've done so far. The head looks huge, way out of proportion to the rest of the model. It's neck looks too long, the head is scaled significantly larger than the rest of the model, and based on the rest of your work overall I know you can do much better than that.

The concept is solid, and I think a bald-headed Sergeant w/ his hat on the ground (blown off by a close shot perhaps?) would look very cool and add some character for sure.

Nothing wrong with a little tough love I appreciate the critique. I don't think it's the proportion of the head that is bad. Here's a pic with another guard head (with which I will shortly begin work on pilots for the Valk )

I think they are pretty dang close. I think you may be on to something with the neck comment though. The head I'm using is a cut down SW head, so the neck section was super long (if you include the spherical part underneath). Could that be the problem here?

Viktor von Domm wrote:i would like to see this head used... i shaved off the helmet/hat of this one and the mustache is something your current head lacks...

Not bad, but if I end up changing it, I think I'll look for another yelling head. I like the idea of a sergeant yelling out battle cries and orders.

Thanks for looking and for all of the great CC!
Rawson

i like the basing idea of yours... tho it creeps me out to just slice a marine head for basing material^^

it does help to sell the powersword for the mini quite good...!
and a bit of further shaving should solve the neck issue with your SW head...and yeah... sarges that aren´t yelling....what are they good for? absolutly nothing...say it again...^^


but i´d still ad a big `stach...^^

if you do the guard you will get a nice individual sword...so keep the pointy bit on... and let it be a bit bulier...after all a sarge would ask for a more menacing weapon and not a weapon that would fit an officer...after all sergeant are real soldiers...and not pimps in uniform^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:i like the basing idea of yours... tho it creeps me out to just slice a marine head for basing material^^

it does help to sell the powersword for the mini quite good...!
and a bit of further shaving should solve the neck issue with your SW head...and yeah... sarges that aren´t yelling....what are they good for? absolutly nothing...say it again...^^


but i´d still ad a big `stach...^^

if you do the guard you will get a nice individual sword...so keep the pointy bit on... and let it be a bit bulier...after all a sarge would ask for a more menacing weapon and not a weapon that would fit an officer...after all sergeant are real soldiers...and not pimps in uniform^^

Fair enough on all accounts. I'll try taking a few inches out of his neck to fix the proportion problem. And don't worry, the 'stache is incoming

ohoh...take cover mates... we got `staches incoming....

Viktor von Domm wrote:ohoh...take cover mates... we got `staches incoming....

Weapon Range Str AP Type
'Stache 36" 5 3 Ordnance Barrage 5, Large Blast

that would be so funny if i knew what you are gibbering about^^ remember noob...me?

Viktor von Domm wrote:that would be so funny if i knew what you are gibbering about^^ remember noob...me?

Sorry, forgot Weapon stats for a 40k 'stache gun

that at least was clear to me... the effect of said front spoiler is what i didn´t get... but let´s not totally ruin the joke...






...............er.....................anyway...

my tuppence worth (I'll get a name for myself at this rate; a Scotsman throwing tuppennies about without a care!! ) anyway, I like the general look of thon sergeant however I think he might be improved with a sword from the White Scars
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1850167_99060101404_BitzWhiteScarConversionMain_445x319.jpg
or something similar. As for his head I would, if I were you, sculpt ears, full Vostroyan tasche and either long hair tied back in a pony tail, something like Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York, or a teeny, tiny pony tail on a bald heid!

although i see a white scar pattern in your post i am not sure the pony tail is a good decision...^^

tho i think rawson already had subconciously that sabreof the white scars in mind...

hey Rawson, saw these while going through my links and thought it had a vost feeling... http://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=57

Liking the last three mini convesions , the head on the shako vostroyan is perfect.

butchyboy73 wrote:my tuppence worth (I'll get a name for myself at this rate; a Scotsman throwing tuppennies about without a care!! ) anyway, I like the general look of thon sergeant however I think he might be improved with a sword from the White Scars
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1850167_99060101404_BitzWhiteScarConversionMain_445x319.jpg
or something similar. As for his head I would, if I were you, sculpt ears, full Vostroyan tasche and either long hair tied back in a pony tail, something like Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York, or a teeny, tiny pony tail on a bald heid!

One more vote for "Hat off", check. I'll have to make a final decision on whether to give him a hat or not before I get into hair style (though I hadn't really considered anything but shaved before now)
I started work on the guard for the sword last night, so I probably won't be changing the sword, thought the blade is certainly still modifiable. I'm trying to not have it look like a large SM combat blade, though, so I need to use some caution Thanks for the ideas, Mr. Tuppence

Viktor von Domm wrote:although i see a white scar pattern in your post i am not sure the pony tail is a good decision...^^

tho i think rawson already had subconciously that sabreof the white scars in mind...

Yeah, the styles are similar, I think.

Rogue Wolves wrote:hey Rawson, saw these while going through my links and thought it had a vost feeling... http://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=57

The certainly do, though with a more gas mask than rebreather look. If I ever get tired of sculpting my own, I might have to check them out!

neil101 wrote:Liking the last three mini convesions , the head on the shako vostroyan is perfect.

Thanks for the comments and for stopping by!

I figured out what I don't like about that head. It's too thick and needs to be shaped / trimmed (something like pic below):



An ear would probably help as well

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:I figured out what I don't like about that head. It's too thick and needs to be shaped / trimmed (something like pic below):



An ear would probably help as well

Thanks for the pic! I think that saying "A picture is worth 1000 words" probably originated in the PMblogs somewhere

I've shaved a bit off his neck already, I'll get a little more off the back and see how it looks. I'm not very confident in my ability to sculpt plastic, so I might end up giving him a hat anyways, but I'll give it a go!

Thanks again, Skalk!

HAHAHA! the 'stache is OP!! But awesome!

I used that Empire head on my mustachioed Catachan Standard Bearer. I shaved the rivets off of his skullcap to look more like a do-rag.

ahh, it could be a dorag type thing..

I'm not a huge fan of the basilisks, the 36" minimum range. That is only for indirect fire you can direct fire from the muzzle to the max range if you have LOS.

shaved the rivets off of his skullcap to look more like a do-rag.

...i let this sentence just hang here in the air...anyone can see my point....

Hehe-like the rocking of facial hair.

Stonelessword wrote:I'm not a huge fan of the basilisks, the 36" minimum range. That is only for indirect fire you can direct fire from the muzzle to the max range if you have LOS.

Hmmm, thanks for the tip. I'll have to check this out...

Viktor von Domm wrote:

shaved the rivets off of his skullcap to look more like a do-rag.

...i let this sentence just hang here in the air...anyone can see my point....

Priceless!

So, my loyal followers, DST is not the only Dakkanaught to get new toys this week! I received my newly purchased colour shapers (firm, size 2) in the mail the other day and I have been putting them to good use.

I began work on the kneeling sniper, cleaning up the transition between the two halves.

The colour shapers take a little getting used to, but I'm pretty happy with the results so far!

Next up were the pilot heads for the Valk. Now that the attached squad has been scrapped for an all Vostroyan crew, the Valk needed some appropriate pilot heads.

This one is just about done, I'm pretty excited about how the goggles came out! Colour shapers ftw!


This guy will have the goggles over his eyes, so his moustache needs to dry before I do any more sculpting.


If you're wondering where the Sergeant is, he is not forgotten. I've gotten a little GS work done, but not really enough to warrant a picture yet. Keep a lookout in the future!

As always, love to know your thoughts

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

hell...the shapers are a true blessing it seems... seems you are now one step closer to becoming a steam- punk now even more... those goggles look super! how long did they take you to make? also you are very good in making mustaches now...

the kneeling sniper looks very good...if it werent for the greenness he would look seamless...

Viktor von Domm wrote:hell...the shapers are a true blessing it seems... seems you are now one step closer to becoming a steam- punk now even more... those goggles look super! how long did they take you to make? also you are very good in making mustaches now...

A blessing indeed! As I said, they take a little getting used to, but the results are great. The goggles took about 30 minutes to sculpt I think. I've sculpted a few moustaches now

Viktor von Domm wrote:the kneeling sniper looks very good...if it werent for the greenness he would look seamless...

Thanks! Now for the finishing touches: cloak and long las barrel... (though not tonight)

The Omnirivet giveth, and the Omnirivet taketh away as he sees fit!

hey i told you paint shapers are AMAZING!! guys stache looks great along with the goggles nice work

dsteingass wrote:The Omnirivet giveth, and the Omnirivet taketh away as he sees fit!

Does that come right before "Rivets to rivets, and dust to dust"?

Rogue Wolves wrote:hey i told you paint shapers are AMAZING!! guys stache looks great along with the goggles nice work

Thanks! I'm quite proud of the result. The Colour Shapers (or paint shapers or whatever) are great, but I can't really figure out how to use any of them except the conical point. There's a wedge and a chisel and a scoop... What the heack do I do with those?

What are these colour shapers?

I had a thought about the Valk. After all this work on the pilots' heads it would be a shame to hide them under the normal Valk cockpit. What about something like this:

Wouldn't be too hard to do, I think. Just use the front part of the normal canopy. CC much appreciated...

Thanks for looking
Rawson

Definately, i think it would look good, there is probably some fluff reason about the speed its going at meaning its not overly sensible, but with a mustache like that i'm sure he can take it, besides, he has goggles.

Imperial Monkey wrote:What are these colour shapers?

They are used in painting mostly to acheive a different effect than with a brush. They have a silicone (or similar) head.

They work really well for some GS work because they have a little give to them, so you don't end up with any hard lines.

J-paint wrote:Definately, i think it would look good, there is probably some fluff reason about the speed its going at meaning its not overly sensible,

Thanks for the input, J-paint. I think it will be okay fluff wise. The turbine engines prevent it from going anywhere that would require environmental control, and you can pretty much go as fast as you want with goggles on and still see.

J-paint wrote:but with a mustache like that i'm sure he can take it

Read: Moustache FTW

I knew I wasn't wrong! i typed moustache originally and dakka flagged it up and recommended mustache, last time I trust spelling suggestions. =s

J-paint wrote:I knew I wasn't wrong! i typed moustache originally and dakka flagged it up and recommended mustache, last time I trust spelling suggestions. =s

I actually think it can be either (though I have been wrong before ) My comment was actually not a spelling critique, but a lauding of the mighty man-fur of the upper lip

All praise its furry goodness.

i would love to see this cockpit makeup to be seen on a valk...tho i am totally at a lack of ideas how to achieve that...

and about those different colorshapers...they are too in that pic of yours? i guess you could use them for uses you have not thought of...texturizing your GS work for instance...or bigger sclae works...whatever then rings your bell i guess...

Viktor von Domm wrote:i would love to see this cockpit makeup to be seen on a valk...tho i am totally at a lack of ideas how to achieve that...

So far it's unanimous! I think I'll take a look tomorrow, I have a few ideas floating about...

Viktor von Domm wrote:and about those different colorshapers...they are too in that pic of yours? i guess you could use them for uses you have not thought of...texturizing your GS work for instance...or bigger sclae works...whatever then rings your bell i guess...

So far I haven't tried any large scale works yet. Maybe that's the problem

well... it remains to be seen...^^ on both^^

Tons accomplished today! Tuesdays are my day off, so I usually get a lot of warhammering in. Today happened to be a sculpt-a-thon.

The goggles on the second pilot.


Some clean up work on the head-swap melta vet (before he just had a length of paperclip for a neck! )


And some more work on the kneeling sniper. I redid the gs on his jacket, and I think it turned out much smoother this time (I've got the hang of those color shapers now )


and added a camo cloak for him to tie him in to the rest of the squad.


Now I'm going to watch a movie with the wife (and might be able to sneak in some painting during the flick if she's in a good mood )

Thanks for stopping by!
Rawson

wow...that cloak is looking super fine...smooth as heck! wow...that is indeed showing how good you feel accustomed to the shapers...

the googles again are pure coolness...if all else fails...would you consider making me one or two heads of these? that would be so lovley...i know lots of work...but i might be in posession of something for you in return...or could do you a favor...one might never know...what goes around...^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:wow...that cloak is looking super fine...smooth as heck! wow...that is indeed showing how good you feel accustomed to the shapers...

Well, I can only take credit for the application, not the sculpting. It's an Empire outriders cloak trimmed to fit the latest sniper. It did require some gs work (which in turn required me to use some of the other shapers ) but only a little.

Viktor von Domm wrote:the goggles again are pure coolness...if all else fails...would you consider making me one or two heads of these? that would be so lovley...i know lots of work...but i might be in posession of something for you in return...or could do you a favor...one might never know...what goes around...^^

It would be my pleasure! I have plenty of empire heads about. Would those be suited enough for your steampunk style?

I'm with viktor here! Even if it isn't entirely your gsing- the overall effect is awesome, also loving the goggles, very good job. Apologies if youve mentioned this already but where did you pick up your sculptors?

heck... the cape is awsome ...period^^

and which head would that be? i could "live" with men at arms... or outriders of course... or what else would these be?...

by the way... have you condidered after curing these to make a pressmould for googles? could save you plenty of time on the next one... or would that maybe ruin the face? never tried a pressmould for now... guess i just have to try it soon...

J-paint wrote:I'm with viktor here! Even if it isn't entirely your gsing- the overall effect is awesome, also loving the goggles, very good job. Apologies if youve mentioned this already but where did you pick up your sculptors?

Thank you and thank you! As I am more of a modeler than a painter, I am having a lot of fun these days! I picked up the color shapers on eBay. I got the size 2 firm, which seem to work fine, but I wish they were a touch smaller. If you're looking into getting some, I'd recommend the size 0.

Viktor von Domm wrote:heck... the cape is awsome ...period^^

and which head would that be? i could "live" with men at arms... or outriders of course... or what else would these be?...

Yep. Men at arms and Outrider/pistoleer heads. After pawing through my bits box, I wasn't super inspired by any of them. If you have some that you want to drop in the post, that could work as well...

Viktor von Domm wrote:by the way... have you condidered after curing these to make a pressmould for googles? could save you plenty of time on the next one... or would that maybe ruin the face? never tried a pressmould for now... guess i just have to try it soon...

Haven't looked into molds at all really. The goggles won't need reproducing (at least not until I pick up another flyer ) but I have toyed with the idea of casting some of these guys that I'm putting so much work into. Some of the guys that the FLGS are getting into casting. Maybe they can help...

recently i got me some outrider heads again... have to look again how many i have... a full letter to and back again would be too much in postage... oh... forgot to think about the motivation^^ ...well.. then it gets a bit bigger...^^

well there are some men at arms that i like... i have to look for which i am thinking of... or even better you could make a pic of what you have...^^ i might then relieve you of these burdening items^^


it seems everybody nowadays gets into casting.,..i feel mighty out of date for not having a stock of resin around...

some mighty fine gs work there!

Mate that cape is so good it'sfreaking unreal!

Agreed, the cape is so very excellent! Makes me have to ask if you've considered doing your own Regimental Banner?

hey you with the face!

long time know read all right, great stuff all around like the new updates they are looking really sharp. that is some awesome gs work you got going on your skills with that have greatly increased. so my only request is when can we see another army shot?

Viktor von Domm wrote:well there are some men at arms that i like... i have to look for which i am thinking of... or even better you could make a pic of what you have...^^ i might then relieve you of these burdening items^^

I'll get that pic up tonight and see what you think...

Rogue Wolves wrote:some mighty fine gs work there!

Thank you, sir! Those color shapers are a huge help!

Axlbush wrote:Mate that cape is so good it'sfreaking unreal!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Agreed, the cape is so very excellent!

Not to disappoint, but it's not an original sculpt.

Rawson wrote:
I can only take credit for the application, not the sculpting. It's an Empire outriders cloak trimmed to fit the latest sniper.

I'll take the compliments anyway

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Makes me have to ask if you've considered doing your own Regimental Banner?

I have thought about it a little. If I end up going for it, it probably won't be a total sculpt. Perhaps there is also some mixed up context here if you thought I sculpted that cloak

alabamaheretic wrote:hey you with the face!

long time know read all right, great stuff all around like the new updates they are looking really sharp. that is some awesome gs work you got going on your skills with that have greatly increased. so my only request is when can we see another army shot?

Good to have you back, Bama! I'll see if I can get an army shot up tonight!

so...*looking to watch...* it is night time...we´ll be waiting

I don't think the open-cockpit valk will cut it, look-wise. However, open-cockpit planes generally had one engine, and the pilot usually sat behind/over it. What if you designed a new plane around a single Valkyrie engine?

Viktor von Domm wrote:so...*looking to watch...* it is night time...we´ll be waiting

I still made it, it isn't morning for another 48 minutes

dsteingass wrote:I don't think the open-cockpit valk will cut it, look-wise. However, open-cockpit planes generally had one engine, and the pilot usually sat behind/over it. What if you designed a new plane around a single Valkyrie engine?

Fair enough on the open cockpit. What were you thinking about your concept plane? Might I trouble you for a sketch?

Here you are, Bama. The Vostroyan 104th Mechanized in all of it's glory!

Still a WIP, obviously, but it's coming along! Need a bit more work on the vet squad on the left, some paint on the HWTs, and finish up the Valk...

I painted some unit markings on the sentinels, chimera, and other LRBT. (I also based a few vets, but that doesn't warrant a picture )



As always, CC appreciated!

Hey, Vik! Here's that shot of the heads that I think could look cool with goggles. See any you like?


Thanks for looking!
Rawson

i am so shameless^^ i´d take them all^^ if added with goggles^^
tho i am totally eager to see a goggled up catachan... that would be a total new thing!^^
and a quite impressive army you have there!

as for CC...well i can only help you with some PP...pretty praises^^, those sentinels specially look very good!

Viktor von Domm wrote:i am so shameless^^ i´d take them all^^ if added with goggles^^
tho i am totally eager to see a goggled up catachan... that would be a total new thing!^^

Well, I'm sure I can't whip up that many sets of goggles but I think I can get a couple equipped with some high quality eye protection! There are a few things before them on my to-do list, though. I'll keep you posted.

Viktor von Domm wrote:and a quite impressive army you have there!
as for CC...well i can only help you with some PP...pretty praises^^, those sentinels specially look very good!

Thanks, Vik!

on both accounts^^

thats why i am saying go buy some empite kits! with your taste in design, im surprised you dont!!

Rogue Wolves wrote:thats why i am saying go buy some empite kits! with your taste in design, im surprised you dont!!

I've used quite a few empire bits. They do come in handy and match the them pretty well.

Yesterday was my (partial) day off. I got in a game at the FLGS against BA.

Highlights:
My three Armored Sentinels with autocannons shot at a unit of Sang Guard for three turns with no unsaved wounds. Guardsman Marbo comes in on turn 4, tossed his demo charge and killed 4 at once.
I immobilized his Stormraven which was toting Gabriel Seth, a combat squad, and a DC dread approx 8" from my combined infantry squad. I ran with that squad (in cover), and got a 6, which put me 14" away. "Phew", I thought to myself. "That gives me one more turn to deal with all that stuff." Then my opponent reminded me that DC dreads have fleet. DC dread moved 6", ran 5" and rolled more than the 3" he needed to assault into cover. 20 guardsmen dead in an instant.
Turn 5, my Vendetta with melta vets (which avenged the combined squad by toasting the DC dread with 3 TL LCs from behind) moved flat out to contest an objective. Unfortunately, I couldn't contest unless I moved it into cover. What does my opponent say? "That one in six chance actually has a 9 in 10 chance of getting rolled" I lol'ed a little bit

I've had enough games with the 104th now that I'm revising my list. I think I'd like to add a pair of Hydra flak tanks. Pretty cheap, 8 TL AC shots, a little fragile, but not overly so. I've got my eye on converting a manticore for my Hydras. We shall see Also, I need a bit more TEQ killers. I think I'll give a Vet squad some plasmas and add a Medusa siege cannon to my 1500pt list. That (and the Marbo demo charge) gives me a little redundancy.

Here's what I worked on:
I caved on the powersword sergeant and gave him a hat. I contemplated and thought about it and pondered about the hair/ears/fallen hat idea and just gave up It think it turned out pretty good. It took me a while to find that aquila, but I think it was worth it


I also found a better solution for my long las conversion. First, I was going to build it out of some brass rod I found at the FLGS, then a friend donated a bit of styrene rod (which is just about infinely more easy to work with than brass), then I found a tanker lasgun in the FLGS bitz box that, imho, works pretty well


As always, CC appreciated.

Thanks for looking!
Rawson

does the now haired and former baldy sarge now even have a ponytail?? lol that is quite a lot transformation for one mere sarge^^ tho for a good view i need more shots of him...different angles...

and that new muzzle is looking very convincing!

for your list and battle report... reads good tho it seems it was not a nice ending^^

and for additions... after you changed the barrels of your LR..i think making hydras would need a good bit of conversionwork too...how i am not able to say atm...or you just take it as is and use GS for making a bit of filligre work for them... i think you are able to make that quite good...

For what my opinion is worth, I like these best:



... especially the ones with the crazy feathers. Over the top is perfect for your army so far.

Great work! Love that mechanized force, what does the army list come out to?

so after review of the aweome army shots i have decided...good stuff all around . man its good to see you still trucking. so any thing new on your plate? oh yea like the sentinels too. vostroyan goodness all the way around

Still quietly going through your blog Rawson but just wanted to say impressive work!! Your conversions bring alot of character to your army and you're giving me ideas...
I really dig your GS work, especially the goggles and the fur hats

Viktor von Domm wrote:does the now haired and former baldy sarge now even have a ponytail?? lol that is quite a lot transformation for one mere sarge^^ tho for a good view i need more shots of him...different angles...

and that new muzzle is looking very convincing!

and for additions... after you changed the barrels of your LR..i think making hydras would need a good bit of conversionwork too...how i am not able to say atm...or you just take it as is and use GS for making a bit of filligre work for them... i think you are able to make that quite good...

Unfortunately, no pony tail It's true, he turned into a bit more of a project than I anticipated, but it's been fun! Keep an eye out for more pics

Viktor von Domm wrote:for your list and battle report... reads good tho it seems it was not a nice ending^^

Cinematic: Yes. Victorious: No.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:For what my opinion is worth, I like these best:



... especially the ones with the crazy feathers. Over the top is perfect for your army so far.

This selection was more for Vik's steampunk guard army than additions to the 104th, but, now that you mention it, the Vostroyans do have a feather theme. Hmmm...

Hmelrose wrote:Great work! Love that mechanized force, what does the army list come out to?

Not quite finished with the 1500pt plan, but here's what I have so far

I still need to rework some things. Right now I'm most concerned about close combat (read: the only powerweapon I have right now is a PF). I think I'll drop the lascannon from the plasma vet crew and pick up a few more power weapons.
This leaves me with quite a shopping list: Medusa, 2 Hydras, 2 Chimeras, plus 4 meltagunners and 3 plasmagunners. Yikes.

alabamaheretic wrote:so after review of the aweome army shots i have decided...good stuff all around . man its good to see you still trucking. so any thing new on your plate? oh yea like the sentinels too. vostroyan goodness all the way around

Thanks, Bama. On the plate now: balancing finishing what I have and picking up the rest of the stuff I need to finish off my 1500pt list Also, I'm overdue for a =]_,= project

chrisyella wrote:Still quietly going through your blog Rawson but just wanted to say impressive work!! Your conversions bring alot of character to your army and you're giving me ideas...
I really dig your GS work, especially the goggles and the fur hats

Thanks for the compliments and for stopping by!

Cinematic: Yes. Victorious: No.

nice one^^

Keep an eye out for more pics

keep ´em coming^^

so just thought i would pop on in and see if anything new happend since i havent been on in a few days...looks like ill go lurk back at my blog. keep it up man.

alabamaheretic wrote:so just thought i would pop on in and see if anything new happend since i havent been on in a few days...looks like ill go lurk back at my blog. keep it up man.

Thanks for looking! Here's what I've been up to:

The first artillery piece of the 104th!

Pretty standard construction for the main body (I just used an old LR hatch instead of the stock one and shaved off the winged skull at the top of the gun shield)
Don't worry: moar rivets are incoming as well as some GS detailing for the cannon, I hope
Medusa cannon is an xacto blade tube with a baneblade cannon tip. It just slides onto what's left of the earthshaker so I can keep my options open in the future.


As always, CC greatly appreciated!

Thanks for looking!
Rawson