Infinity has the full palette of environments, I will agree in that, the thing is its a big excuse to play in a non destroyed sci fi urban terrain.
The issue with wanting a proper urban mat is almost nobody does it, with the exception of the mentioned Suzy mat, which is a destroyed city mat, while there is a plethora of mats for most of the other options.
Have you checked out lasercutcard Facebook page?
His modular game table is interesting, for variety and customization.
I made one but am renovating so cannot get to it.
Oh those are pretty sweet! Hmm, good job I haven't actually assembled my Ariadna force yet.. looks like I'm going to need some new bases *and* some of those.
Conventional bases are beveled. Those example models have strictly perpendicular sides. Those metal bands won't look good on the stock bases that come with the figures.
Absolutionis wrote: Conventional bases are beveled. Those example models have strictly perpendicular sides. Those metal bands won't look good on the stock bases that come with the figures.
No, I think it mentioned on the site they are designed to go with the 'Designed for Infinity' ones they sell on the site - possibly the MAS ones also?
Absolutionis wrote: Conventional bases are beveled. Those example models have strictly perpendicular sides. Those metal bands won't look good on the stock bases that come with the figures.
No, I think it mentioned on the site they are designed to go with the 'Designed for Infinity' ones they sell on the site - possibly the MAS ones also?
True, and I admit that I own some of those MAS bases, but I and many others also own more traditional beveled bases as well. It's becoming even more of a niche market when Anthenociti's Workshop has products Designed for Designed for Infinity (MAS).
Even so, I'm holding some ruined street bases in my hand right now and not only do they also have beveled bases, but there's tons of junk protruding out from the side that would block these front-arc strips.
They're a wonderful idea, but they seem incompatible with most things.
EDIT: You know, I just realized that AW's "Designed for Infinity" bases are different than MAS's "Designed for Infinity" bases. That may lead to even more confusion when AW's "Designed for Designed for Infinity" strips are compatible with AW's "Designed for Infinity" bases but not MAS's "Designed for Infinity" bases.
etched brass is generally supplied on sheet (and in any case is much too fragile to withstand being shipped bent, IMO) so I'd say you'd have to bend it yourself.
Luckily, you'll have just the tool to bend it with right to hand (the base)!
also, I'm pretty sure these will work okay with the sedition wars bases some of us are using (me included!) which makes me a happy camper. Might have to trim them down a mm (they're pretty thick) but that's what precision belt sanders are for Also, dremeling a bevel *off* of a base is relatively easy so I might be doing the 40's as well (or just trim off the bevel on the front half - that might look cool!)
@grimdork I'm guessing they'll look awesome on clear acrylics more than anywhere else, really! (just use canopy glue or PVA glue to fix them on )
Infinity has the full palette of environments, I will agree in that, the thing is its a big excuse to play in a non destroyed sci fi urban terrain.
The issue with wanting a proper urban mat is almost nobody does it, with the exception of the mentioned Suzy mat, which is a destroyed city mat, while there is a plethora of mats for most of the other options.
He has a bunch of self-made Infinity papercraft stuff, including this map, of which more than one can be added together. I especially love his vehicles, I have made several for my games of AT-43 as iut has the same non-Gothic futuristic feel.
Absolutionis wrote: Conventional bases are beveled. Those example models have strictly perpendicular sides. Those metal bands won't look good on the stock bases that come with the figures.
No, I think it mentioned on the site they are designed to go with the 'Designed for Infinity' ones they sell on the site - possibly the MAS ones also?
True, and I admit that I own some of those MAS bases, but I and many others also own more traditional beveled bases as well. It's becoming even more of a niche market when Anthenociti's Workshop has products Designed for Designed for Infinity (MAS).
Even so, I'm holding some ruined street bases in my hand right now and not only do they also have beveled bases, but there's tons of junk protruding out from the side that would block these front-arc strips.
They're a wonderful idea, but they seem incompatible with most things.
EDIT: You know, I just realized that AW's "Designed for Infinity" bases are different than MAS's "Designed for Infinity" bases. That may lead to even more confusion when AW's "Designed for Designed for Infinity" strips are compatible with AW's "Designed for Infinity" bases but not MAS's "Designed for Infinity" bases.
Are you following them on LifeInvader Absolutionis? Might be worthwhile asking them that question!
I've got a bunch of the 'raised' MAS bases - if these fit the Antenociti ones, I would probably guess they would fit the larger surface area of the MAS ones (as the diameter of the base will still be 25mm).
Etch-Brass 'Compass Bars' for 25mm round AW bases.
The Compass Bar marks the way that the base/figure is facing as well as its 180 degree front arc.
It is particularly useful on figures where the stance or weapon means that your figure cannot face the way that you want it to be facing and be touching scenery to get the cover bonus. It also prevents arguments over which way a figure is facing or precisely where its 180 degree front arc is.
The bars are accurate to within 0.1mm and denote the full front arc to the edge of the brass - anything behind that brass is behind the front 180degree arc.
The 'Compass Bar' strips only fit vertically sided bases like our own Designed for Infinity bases.
They will not work with bases that have sloped sides.
I agree that the bases are easily confused between the two companies. Regardless, it's rather welcome because I can buy from both and everything can still seem unified.
Hmm! That's pretty neat, though I have trouble getting myself to spring for resin prices for decoration. More of a bottlecaps and coffee cans kind of guy
Either british 25cent coins are much larger than US quarters or that's a 15mm forklift being shown. Possibly for the G.O.T. line? Or maybe just an existing render being repurposed to 28mm, a lot of vehicle were done in both scales
Some rough renders of the Topos papercraft vehicles were posted over on Wargame News and Terrain earlier as well, this time with an Infinity figure mocked up next to them
Preview of the Premier (left) and "Scenic" (right) vehicles
"Scenic" style vehicles have a solid fill between wheels and on the underside of the car which enables easier casting and cheaper end product. "Premier" vehicles are cast traditionally in split or two-part molds leaving a gap under the vehicle and around wheels.
I can barely tell any difference too, nice. I like their stuff, I'm getting the crashed cars they did for the Mars Attacks and may someday look into some of their detailing packs/vehicles.
ETA is July with shipping as soon as 3 months after end date. They seem to be waiting on some samples, final prices and approval from CB for some of the range
These little cars in these photos will be around £7.50 for three (3) whilst the premiere is around £5.50 each... that's a direct representation of the difference in production costs.
Hmm.. actually looking forward to this kickstarter. Plenty of great looking things coming for infinity Terrain.
I really want to get some scatter terrain, a couple of utility vehicles, at least one Dropship (if the Ariadna version is available) and the scout/landing pad tower. That is looking pretty sweet.
I can see getting several of the three car packs for my urban table. Add multiple taxis, and a lot of their other vehicles, and I'll suddenly have the traffic choked downtown that I've always wanted.
griffen127 wrote: The dropships are a bust, or so it seems. All we get is meaningless platitudes. I was so very pumped about them now, I don't know.
"Bust"? I would strongly argue that they are going to be better than ever as Antenocitis has clearly put a lot of work into them and looking at the online community forums where they update all their info they clealy lay out when they will be releasing them, and it is laid out very nicely. "Bust" is in stark contrast to all the info on this and other forums.
They have some of the best castings I've seen in resin, if not the best.
Quick as lightning customer service.
Cutting edge designs.
I suspect they were overwhelmed by the sheer amount of Deadzone add-ons (Antenociti's involvement was a big incentive for me) and now the Infinity tie-ins. I'm sure there are cases but I didn't read one instance of Antenociti messing up their part of a Deadzone order.
I'd rather they took the time to 'do it right' than the typical rush job we see from just about everyone else.
If you have clients asking you do do things and are paying, you do it before you do your own stuff.
griffen127 wrote: The dropships are a bust, or so it seems. All we get is meaningless platitudes. I was so very pumped about them now, I don't know.
"Bust"? I would strongly argue that they are going to be better than ever as Antenocitis has clearly put a lot of work into them and looking at the online community forums where they update all their info they clealy lay out when they will be releasing them, and it is laid out very nicely. "Bust" is in stark contrast to all the info on this and other forums.
I believe he is referring to the seemingly endless delays since this thread was started and the dropship previews came out in 2012. If *all* you want from the company is the dropships and all you see is wave after wave of terrain tailor made for games you may or may not play, the dropships have in fact been a bust by the only metric that frankly counts... a purchasable product available to the public. Have there been significant changes both in the design and the route they're releasing them? Sure... but that doesn't help someone who wanted a dropship sometime remotely close to the previews in 2012. I'm sure they'll be nice in the end but if I were painting up an N7 themed scifi army that needed some cool dropships, I'd be annoyed if the ones that I wanted that were previewed two years ago *STILL* weren't out and likely would have long ago found another alternative. Even if the KS is this summer, the products likely won't see release until next year. If the ultimate goal is a dropship product, this series of models is a bust *SO FAR* almost two years down the line because they have nothing physical to sell.
It seems that AW is focusing on getting all the designs and everything but the production itself out of the way before the Kickstarter unlike many other projects out there. The delivery time past the planned launch of the campaigns is quite ambitious.
Delaying the start of the Kickstarters before taking money is much more honest and agreeable than the campaigns that delay multiple times after the campaign ends and they have your money.
Well this is pre-KS waiting so honestly I think that is hard to complain about (I mean people can complain about anything but...). They have show due diligence and it really seems once they start the KS then everything will be done and just waiting for production. I would rather wait forever for a KS to start and then know what I am getting a short while later then jump in totally blind and wait forever (such as the terrible delays seen in so many other KS). I mean even Raging Heros said they were "80%" done when they started. By the looks on the website/Infinity Forums, Antenocitis will be totally done with the models and the pre-production and just need to make the stuff.
Seems smart to get their ducks in a row, if their hypetrain loses steam and some people jump off before the kickstarter, and don't come back... that's a shame. Better to take that cautious road and a small hit than to take a large hit to their reputation by having large delays once people have already invested their funds.
The buildings are pre painted but the fancy resin parts still need paint, huh?
Its all very shiney, some of my minis..... most or all of them, are shabbier than this terrain, almost too nice for them, though when I paint it things would sumb down and level out.
I mean I guess it gives you superior out if the box usability, but the colored resin bits in that picture look sad next to the well painted finished pieces, and only so so attached to the pre painted buildings.
All resin is precolored. This just happens to be colored something other than "blah grey" (the color of "professional" resin) or "puke yellow" (a color I've seen in some hobby kits..).
Well.. let's just wait and see the finished article.. !
A new post on their FB page:
Non-sci-finews:
We're starting a modern line after we get back from holiday... so this should be in September, starting with some modern cars in the drop-cast "scenic" style, a range of pallet-ised goods and some street scatter (phone booths, newspaper dispensers and the like)
Katherine is also working on the fantasy products which, again, we'll hopefully start putting out in September. This will start with some tavern tables and chairs, benches, bookcases and the like, generally crafted from assembled Hirst-Arts pieces with additional elements added to them.
Then we are adding some of our original pieces into the mix, but they will combine to make a nice set of internal scatter scenery.
On their FB page they mentioned going away on hols 'until September' so perhaps they will launch it some time after the announcement and release of Operation Icestorm?
Now that they are an official partner of CB, it would make sense for them to get their releases organised between them.
We've hit a rather major snag with the KS in that the larger of our two laser-cutters is down with a serious fault that requires parts shipping from China... this means we cant cut what we need to before the KS starts, and we need to be sure that the system is up and running for production starting during the KS and on afterwards.
Parts from China may take 10 working days and then we have a possible further delay in the engineer arriving to swap parts and test the machine.
All of that means that it looks likely that we wont be able to start on time, meaning that the start will now probably be delayed into September.
Apologies for this delay, however we're not happy going into a potentially large amount of work with a key bit of machinery not functioning, and we cant rely on the smaller laser to do the required work.
Workshop Maintenance: We're doing some major re-structuring in the (actual) Workshop through this week into next which will mean some slight disruption to casting. This is all long-term work though which needs to be completed before we a) start any Kickstarters, b) start casting on-contract and c) get geared-up for distribution of our Infinity and other ranges.
Which does mean that we're getting closer to finally getting our ranges out to world-wide distributors... no doubt something that those in far-flung lands will be glad to hear!
We will be pursuing US, Aus and European distributors for what will be all four final ranges: GOT, Designed for Infinity, and our new Modern and Fantasy scenery ranges (all of which will start to flow in October or, with a bit of luck, a tad earlier).
As ever more details when we have them, but for now we're a bit quiet as we're ripping out shelving, flooring, walls and such like to ensure the workshop is just how we need it for the next few years.
Looks like they are going to be releasing new fantasy & modern scenery ranges, as well as Infinity (and a return of GoT?!) as well.
GoT isn't returning, because it never left. There's some stuff they discontinued, but the majority of the range was never gone. Certainly vehicles and scenery never left their webstore.
Actually, you can't buy any of the GoT infantry and civilians they used to sell! And there was quite a range. Very frustrating as there was a load of stuff I needed - managed to get some of the GoT troopers just before they were removed from sale, but sadly as Antenociti didn't seem to distribute a lot of it is just gone for the time being.
I've also been informed that they 'can't ' sell some of the range which has now been removed, make of that what you will.
brief text list of whats new this month... further details, prices and images ateotm.. this is just to keep folks informed as we get asked so often
Scatter Scenery:
Tri-Ads (new version for Infinity Street Clutter)
Food Vendor (Street Clutter)
Medical Screens Set (Detailing Set)
Power Screens Set (Detailing Set)
Command Screens Set (Detailing Set)
(+ multi-box)
Police Barriers (acrylic)
Construction Barriers (acrylic)
(Tech bases 40mm & 55mms will come as soon as we have painted sets back from the painter and we can do the covers for them! Which should be at start of October - those will be released instantly, not waiting for the end of the month)
Wholesale/Distribution news:
We will be putting out price-lists for wholesale/distribution at the end of this month. Any inquiries please email trade@antenocitisworkshop.com
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No news on the kickstarter yet but before Jed went on holiday he did say it was supposed to drop this month
I don't know, maybe because we have been waiting so long for them?
Those little taxis are so cute, was there any mention of when they might be released?
Latest update on the Antenociti FB page
Infinity Computer Screens (pack Power Screens). One of three different packs of computer screens "Command", "Medical" and "Power".
Same number and shape of screens in each pack but with different photo-print screen inserts.
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see some of this stuff in N3, it's absolutely stunning looking terrain
The new stuff they posted yesterday should be in the store today
Antenociti's Workshop
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OK.. we're working to get everything live on the website for today and its going to be afternoon today before everything is available - i'll post later to say when everything is up and available.
Other deals on the site include 20 Kuripots for £29.99(!) and a set of the 2 minicars, 4 kuripots and taxi for £21.34 (which is the one I'll be buying!)
Ah I'm much too impatient to wait for the KS, although I think that's probably going to include a whole range of stuff (perhaps including the dropships?)
I quite like those car podules, they look just the right size for a brave line trooper to hide behind!
Dr Mathias wrote: Received my MetroPol box today. I love it, they're really nice castings and so useful for terrain. The vehicles really fill a gap in the market.
Provisional KS start date now of 2nd November and will run for 14 days.
It will be UK based, so not $ based.
Forward Base KS: We're just finishing off the Armoury Habitat and now know that we will be able to offer Factional internal resin, meaning that each of the main human factions will be represented by their own factional weapons, rather than by just a generic set - so if you want a PanO set of weapons for the Armoury, or Aleph or Yu-Jing, you can chose that as an option with that building. (The only factions not covered being CA and Tohaa)
One of the Alien Vegetation products in the Forward base KS starting in a couple of weeks time is now up as our cover photo - they come in a set as seen, with integral bases, unpainted. Fantastically high detail on them, more detail in the KS Coming Soon™
Pool Table for the Recreation Habitat (coming in the Forward Base KS).
I'm wondering why some companies insist on running KSs just before christmas. There's no way I'll be able to take part due to the timing, and I'm not alone among the people with families.
May be part of the KS if it's finished in time. The design is meant to be outdated tech, not elegant but reliable and found most places so generic so it will fit with any faction. It's more of a terrian piece so it has a flat top for standing models on, (at least that's the explanation from AW).
It will be resin as far as I can tell the facebook article is a bit vague but they talk about casting it.
That's the same model as the papercraft dropship from Topo Solitario. Right down to the name. It has large, flat sections because it was designed to be made from paper.
EDIT: Not implying anything untoward, just pointing out that it's based on an existing model/design.
Guildsman wrote: That's the same model as the papercraft dropship from Topo Solitario. Right down to the name. It has large, flat sections because it was designed to be made from paper.
EDIT: Not implying anything untoward, just pointing out that it's based on an existing model/design.
Nothing untoward at all TOPO, Marcos Hidalgo did the new 3D model from the orignal paper model design it carries over a lot of the original features including the boxy design that was a limitation of paper modeling.
By that metric, my IG army that I was planning on expanding and using them for should have tripled by now and I should be the proud owner of a 3k Grey Knight force as well... but neither of those projects panned out in 2012 either due to the almost simultaneous price increase, finecast switchover, and 6th edition rules changes. Even if I get into infinity with n3, I don't have any use for dropships at the moment and my personal interest for them has passed other than just simple joking on the often delayed subject.
Antenociti must've made some agreement with Toposolitario. The dropship isn't his only design Antenociti is making. They've also shown Toposolitario's utility truck/APC.
I for one am quite pleased to see the Toposolitario vehicles being made is resin. I'd totally be down for a chickenhawk. I kind of hope they do the hovercraft, too.
Barzam wrote: Antenociti must've made some agreement with Toposolitario. The dropship isn't his only design Antenociti is making. They've also shown Toposolitario's utility truck/APC.
I for one am quite pleased to see the Toposolitario vehicles being made is resin. I'd totally be down for a chickenhawk. I kind of hope they do the hovercraft, too.
They discussed this very thing in AW's thread in the official forums. Topo basically came in and said "Go nuts! I love it!"
We're into the time where we now have to concentrate on getting this months Infinity releases finalized, photographed and out, so it looks like we will be putting back the KS for a week.
We're also considering that a few folks have asked for the KS to be shifted so that it finishes at the end of the month (to tie in with pay days) and we're also considering that, so we'll get back with a date once we've done some more work on the end of month releases and so forth.
Antenociti's Workshop Not a live time - but it will end on November 30th. Start will be between 9th and 16th... we need to get all the month-end Infinity stuff out the way, then tie up a couple of loose-ends for the KS itself... we've another video we now want to make (of each Habitat) and then better organize a few other things. We've also got a Laser--service on Monday next.... so its handy to get that out the way also.
couple of images of the containers coming in Forward base - "clean" and "weathered" varieties from some of our Corporate companies...
As to cover... I think the way they explained it in the Icestorm battle report video, the first one, you had to be in contact like before. Doesn't necessarily mean anything is set in stone though.
As to cover... I think the way they explained it in the Icestorm battle report video, the first one, you had to be in contact like before. Doesn't necessarily mean anything is set in stone though.
It's waist-high cover that you can shoot over. So long as you're touching it with your model, you can declare cover and shoot at everything on the other side.
If you want full cover, go prone.
Cover doesn't always have to be the height of the model.
The wording in the second ed rule book is "In order to receove cover modifiers, a figure must be in base contact with the scenery." Unless the rule is different in N3 or there is specific errata the point was if a model is behind that cover in many cases its legs would prevent the base from touching the scenery.
Edit: Actually no, the rule hasn't changed. I remember Carlos bringing it up in the BoW demo game.
couple of images of the containers coming in Forward base - "clean" and "weathered" varieties from some of our Corporate companies...
While I'm normally of Antenociti's stuff, these are kind of a miss for me. Why are they on stilts? Why are the cargo containers diamond shaped? How are you supposed to store anything in these when there's no flat bottom to put things on? Clearly he should have gone with hexagons. I do like the precolored aspect of them though. That's kind of cool.
.Mikes. wrote: The wording in the second ed rule book is "In order to receove cover modifiers, a figure must be in base contact with the scenery." Unless the rule is different in N3 or there is specific errata the point was if a model is behind that cover in many cases its legs would prevent the base from touching the scenery.
Edit: Actually no, the rule hasn't changed. I remember Carlos bringing it up in the BoW demo game.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
It will be good for blocking LOS for some things though...
Alpharius wrote: IF N3 isn't changing the rules on how you get cover, then those crates will make HORRIBLE cover.
From Operation Icestorm at least in partial reference to cover (whether there will be more in depth to it with N3 is unknown):
Cover Cover can obstruct Lines of Fire and offers troopers a modicum of protection. The target of a BS Attack is in Partial Cover when it is in base to base contact with a piece of scenery that partly blocks the Line of Fire of the attacker. Troopers in Partial Cover impose a -3 Modifier to the BS Attribute of their attacker, and also enjoy a +3 Modifier to their own ARM Rolls.
In this case I don't think the bases will be able to touch the scenery, not to mention the design as crates just don't make sense. Maybe if the environment were space containers where you didn't need to worry about an up, down and gravity but currently they seem oddly shaped to store anything. You could make them new style garbage bins or something else instead of storage containers.
.Mikes. wrote: The wording in the second ed rule book is "In order to receove cover modifiers, a figure must be in base contact with the scenery." Unless the rule is different in N3 or there is specific errata the point was if a model is behind that cover in many cases its legs would prevent the base from touching the scenery.
Edit: Actually no, the rule hasn't changed. I remember Carlos bringing it up in the BoW demo game.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
It will be good for blocking LOS for some things though...
Jeez, what kind of people do you guys play against?!
If I saw a miniature touching that with some part of it (the miniature physically touching it etc.) it would get cover, simple as. Sometimes you have to look at the logic of how a rule is intended (i.e. the base is used as a convenient measure of the unit being in close enough proximity to an object to be benefiting from being next to it) rather than thinking in such an abstract way about what is happening on the tabletop.
OT - Definitely looking forward to this KS! Antenociti are a great company, looking forward to what they have come up with for it.
I agree though it's perhaps not ideal terrain for that very reason.
We're lucky in some respects that Infinity has a lot less abstraction (being a skirmish game), so you get very little of 'this is actually meant to be this, but this was the only practical way to express that abstraction'. I guess this is one of the few examples.
It doesn't fix the root of the problem.. but are those containers MDF? If they are just don't put on the legs and tip them slightly onto one of their sides? Then you could touch the base on one side, and still get away from LOS as it would make the container taller a bit.
Other than that I'm not sure what one could do
Having received my Mars Attacks! wrecked car bundles (for which AW was responsible), I'm looking a lot closer at their space/future vehicles. Really nice stuff in hand. I'm not sure about backing the KS, but certainly they may see some of my monies down the road for their scifi vehicles.
.Mikes. wrote: The wording in the second ed rule book is "In order to receove cover modifiers, a figure must be in base contact with the scenery." Unless the rule is different in N3 or there is specific errata the point was if a model is behind that cover in many cases its legs would prevent the base from touching the scenery.
Edit: Actually no, the rule hasn't changed. I remember Carlos bringing it up in the BoW demo game.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
It will be good for blocking LOS for some things though...
After playing 40k, making base contact with tanks and other huge things with overhangs all of this time, this terrain comes out and you go "But how am I going to make base contact with that in Infinity?"
Where's base contact? Pretend for just a moment you're playing 40k and that its an enemy model and you've declared an assault.
.Mikes. wrote: The wording in the second ed rule book is "In order to receove cover modifiers, a figure must be in base contact with the scenery." Unless the rule is different in N3 or there is specific errata the point was if a model is behind that cover in many cases its legs would prevent the base from touching the scenery.
Edit: Actually no, the rule hasn't changed. I remember Carlos bringing it up in the BoW demo game.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
It will be good for blocking LOS for some things though...
Jeez, what kind of people do you guys play against?!
.Mikes. wrote: The wording in the second ed rule book is "In order to receove cover modifiers, a figure must be in base contact with the scenery." Unless the rule is different in N3 or there is specific errata the point was if a model is behind that cover in many cases its legs would prevent the base from touching the scenery.
Edit: Actually no, the rule hasn't changed. I remember Carlos bringing it up in the BoW demo game.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
It will be good for blocking LOS for some things though...
After playing 40k, making base contact with tanks and other huge things with overhangs all of this time, this terrain comes out and you go "But how am I going to make base contact with that in Infinity?"
lord_blackfang wrote: I hope I can get some street furniture without having to get the MDF buildings.
Antenociti's Workshop Yup, every building component, windows, doors, hatches, lights etc, will be available as add-ons, with bundle-sets at discount as pledges for "resin only" (aka no buildings if you dont want them)
Not sure how they'll set the pledge levels up for this KS it sounds like you'll save more by going for bundle deals but everything should be available as add ons only as well.
I've held off ordering any of the new stuff to see what shows up in the KS.
Holy dramatic music, Batman! Looks great though. Do we know what the scope of this Kickstarter will be? Is it only for the "Forward Base" line, or will it perhaps include the long-awaited dropships, too?
Yeah, do we know if the Toposolitario stuff is going to be in this Kickstarter, or their planned second one? The second one that they've been talking about is going to be the one with the faction dropships.
Not to be 'that guy' but why are they kickstarting this again? Seems like they have quite a bit ready to roll. Is it more of a pre-order like some do or will they be using the funding to expand the range?
Either way it's neat stuff, depending on pricing and how the bundles/pledge levels work out I could see spending a little money on this one.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The interiors are pretty fantastic, the bunks recessed into the walls... awesome.
GrimDork wrote: Not to be 'that guy' but why are they kickstarting this again?
Antenociti's Workshop
November 7
Ever wondered how your TAGs leave the factory? Now you can buy your own TAG Crates when Forward Base kicks-off on the 17th November!
Habitat 1 is a general purpose Habitat that can be used for Accommodation or as a technical center by changing out the wall-panels for different modules.
Habitat 2 is a dedicated Med-Lab with a rooftop landing pad and external lift for carrying patient up and down from the Habitat... the landing pad on the rooftop is large enough to take a 4-person "City Hopper" (Coming out in this KS also)
Habitat 3 is the Dormitory (no video yet)
Vegetation
Power Generator
Automatically Appended Next Post: and some more
Habitat Anatomy - big image!
Spoiler:
Habitat 4 - "Big L"
This is essentially a double-unit of the Standard habitat formed into a L-shape to provide both variation in style and different challenges as a scenery item. The interior becomes quite large and you can fit this out in many different ways by utilizing different "Interior Panels".
We can show the S2 silhouette as it has already been shown elsewhere..all the others, in fact 2 of every one, are tucked away inside the presentation box.
We wanted the "thinnest" possible silhouette so that we either didn't need to move the figure at all, or only move it very marginally to be able to position the silhouette without a lot of room for..let's say "fudging" placement.
We also felt that 2 of each silhouette was preferable so that you can have one silhouette at each end of the LoF question (can i see your silhouette from my silhouette?) ... that suited our gameplay in testing anyway.. so rather than go with a more expensive material, we kept the thickness down (2mm) and added a "handle" so that you could also place the silhouette from above scenery and terrain.
On each silhouette itself are also markers (little >'s) that indicate the 1/3 line, both vertically and horizontally (from top, bottom and both sides) for qualification of cover, place the "fly swat" (as they have been christened) behind terrain and its then easy to see if cover is granted or not.. even if the cover is off the ground i.e. top-down, or too either of one side only (or a bit of both, or all three...) .
Should a breakage occur they will be available separately and it all comes "sealed" to prevent staining and water damage.(when released).
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Antenociti's Workshop Well, The "All-in" pledge, which is absolutely everything (plus some extra bits) is £400.00...and more than enough for a very busy 6x4 table.
That's every building (a couple of each of two types also), with full interiors, all interior scatter, all exterior scatter, all vehicles and "extras"... that also gets you Customization on the logos on all the buildings and a Personalised Ltd Edition Box-set of.. Something I cant say anything about atm
Half of that will give you a very busy 4x4 tables worth of buildings plus scatter...
Antenociti's Workshop - yes, we will be running with a back-end pledge manager for surveys, and add-ons will be open and available after the KS closes within that system.
Antenociti's Workshop A Civilian Merekat, 3 versions of TOPOs Samsara utility vehicle, and the new "flyer" "City Hopper" (plus the little fork-lift)
Antenociti's Workshop - the resin one (Samsara) will be 82% of the full--size cardboard version, so about the same size as our Hunchback APC, and able to park two of them inside Habitat 5 (the Workshop)
Antenociti's Workshop - starts on Monday 17th November 2014, 8pm UK time.
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A snippet of Information for our customers in the USA and Canada - Forward Base Postage ... £20.00. (~$32 USD)
So even on the biggest pledge the postal charge wont go over £20.00... I know folks in the North of America have been worried over the possibility for high postage charges, especially considering the make-up of Resin and MDF (not the lightest of items), but we've done a lot of work on ensuring that we keep them as low as we possibly can... On the bigger pledges it will be working out under 10% and even under 5% at the very top tiers.
We're pretty chuffed at this price, and we hope that you are also.
.. we've got Australia down to around £45.00 on the big pledges (so about > 50% of where it started out!) ... and we're looking into doing something to "off-set" some of the remainder.. but its something we have to ask Kickstarter about before we can go ahead.
A lot of the old stuff is now OOP and is being replaced by the new stuff.
Todays news
TL: DR the Dormitory Habitat 3 (the smallest one) will be about £11.80
Forward Base Pricing:
Pricing for this KS has been quite difficult as there is nothing like this range of buildings currently out in the marketplace; some companies have pre-painted MDF, a few might have some resin add-ons, but nobody has both pre-painted MDF with prepared surfaces and pre-coloured external resin.
It is also quite difficult to find other buildings that closely match the design, size and complexity to allow for perfect comparisons.
What we've done is to take samples from across the Industry of roughly comparable volume, size and shape, where possible, of buildings from various manufacturers and then determine how competitive we wanted our building prices to be.
We decided that, other than for purely aesthetic reasons (issues of pure style or design) we wanted the Habitat range of buildings to be “no-brainers” for those who liked the design style.
As such we have been very aggressive with the retail pricing f.ex looking at the smallest Habitat (3 – Dormitory) we found a number of roughly comparable alternative products that came in with un-prepared MDF, un-painted and with no exterior or interior resin at £15.00 and more.
And so we decided that our Retail price for our ‘pre-painted, premier surface, including exterior resin product’ would be just £17.50p… and that all of our other Habitats would reflect that extremely close market price between our finished product and other companies’ un-painted products. Indeed in some cases some of the Habitats, with the resin exterior parts, with being pre-painted, are cheaper, at full retail prices, than some of the un-painted buildings by other manufacturers.
And that, of course, is the intended retail price after the end of the Kickstarter… during the Kickstarter everybody has the opportunity to get from 12.5% to 32.5% discount on all of the Habitat buildings… so that Dormitory you could be getting for as little as £11.80p or, to put it another way, almost 25% cheaper than an unpainted comparable building.
£15.00 unpainted OR £11.80p pre-painted, with pre-coloured exterior details in resin & acrylic Plus with smooth surfaces suitable for sci-fi…?
As we said, we wanted the decision to be a ‘no-brainer’ and we hope it is.
The Building pledge levels will therefore represent the pledge costs of the buildings with a “saving” shown against our intended retail price after the Kickstarter… and those intended retail prices are already, in our opinion and from our research, exceptionally competitive.
This is why we have described the Kickstarter with the label “One-Off Pricing” – there is simply no way that we could offer these discounts again outside of Kickstarter, so we really do encourage folks to grab-them-while-you-can, because we won’t be repeating these offers, offers which we sincerely hope are popular with you and the first of which we will be revealing later today.
Habitat 6- Science!
Not all environments are friendly and your enemies might be using bio-weapons.. therefore what every Forward Base needs is a Bio-Lab with airlocks, clean-rooms and a quarantine area where "aliens can be probed in safety..." (or maybe not...)
The bio-lab still has some items not yet finished - the airlock doors and some other internal elements are yet to be 3D printed, but the current state of the building gives you a good idea of its layout and internal scatter... Internal Translucent Acrylic parts are included in the basic price, as is rooftop ducting and fan systems.
Dimensions:
L: 350mm
W: 210mm
H: 83mm
Habitat 5 - Workshop & TAG Bay
Every Forward Base needs somewhere to fix things and Habitat 5 is a beast of a Workshop & TAG Bay.
It comes with a fully-detailed interior, requiring no resin-panelling and is also pre-boosted with Feet, Steps and Integral Ladders.
Its big enough to hold 2 Samsara Utility Vehicles or 4-6 TAGs and its cavernous interior doubles-up as a pretty good Party-Zone when the bosses aren’t watching.
Gah... wish I wasn't dead broke with Christmas coming up.
I think I have enough for Infinity right now, but those are some nice buildings.
I may have to piggy back on a friend's order and get one or 2 buildings to go with my colony/ Ariadna FOB theme table.
That Bio-Lab and Vehicle bay are both very nice.
OK... here's a link to an image of the 'Building Pledges'.
These pledges are for *just* the building sets and are comprised of the pre-painted buildings, pre-coloured exterior resin fittings and any acrylic for those exterior parts.
There will another set of pledges being released later this week, that contain pledges of the buildings PLUS all the possible interior and exterior scatter resin (and vehicles), and finally the pledges that deal with *just* resin and don't contain any buildings in them.
(Also please note that Videos for Habitats 7, 8 and 9 will be released tomorrow)
Right then, sorry about that... we updated a post and then deleted the wrong one.... and then deleted the update also.. .. SO... *Deep Breath* ... let's try that again (and this time with the amended image!)
OK... here's a link to an image of the 'Building Pledges'.
These pledges are for *just* the building sets and are comprised of the pre-painted buildings, pre-coloured exterior resin fittings and any acrylic for those exterior parts.
There will another set of pledges being released later this week, that contain pledges of the buildings PLUS all the possible interior and exterior scatter resin (and vehicles), and finally the pledges that deal with *just* resin and don't contain any buildings in them.
(Also please note that Videos for Habitats 7, 8 and 9 will be released tomorrow)
Delivery set for March onwards the earlier you back the earlier you get your stuff
Antenociti's Workshop Wave 1 (Early Birds) fulfilled in March or earlier Richard, subsequent fulfillment from March onwards
"Habitat 7" is a combined "Command & Control", "Security" and "Flight Control" post for monitoring all activity in and around your Forward base.
The video does not show three large resin-cast workstations which slot into the named spaces on the inside of the Tower and take up a big chunk of space, as well as transforming it into a real digital-control center... renders of these will be available during the kick-starter.
The Landing Pad on the roof top is large enough for small drop-ships and "flyers" such as the "City Hopper" - a medical evacuation variant of which is very popular among explorers and science teams as it can land in very tight areas yet get back to civilization exceptionally quickly...by jetting up almost to the Karman layer and going hyper-sonic to its destination.
Dimensions:
L: 233mm
W: 233mm
H: 190mm
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Habitat 8 - Recreation
Sometimes “temporary” Forward Bases become rather “semi-permanent” and there comes a time where more organised entertainment is required than late-night parties in the Workshop.Habitat 8 is built by 'Avalon' and offers food, drink, Hi-def entertainment, the very latest Aristeia and, of course, Hex-Pool.
(There are a few internal components still to be completed such as Bar-items, drinks-Optics and some storage racks, renders of which will be shown in the Kickstarter.)
So, I can see where the rooftop hatch is to get down into the tower (why you'd have a single , human size ladder hatch down into a Control tower.. I dunno), but where is the main access from?
Most control towers have an elevator or stairs to reach the top level. I saw no such indications on the floor or sides of the tower for a door?
I've been wanting to get some of the plastcraft games infinity terrain though I really like this stuff, will see how much it will cost to fill a 4x4 table from both companies and will see, though the plastcraft stuff has bridges connecting buildings, I love bridges, will this KS have bridges?
ski2060 wrote: So, I can see where the rooftop hatch is to get down into the tower (why you'd have a single , human size ladder hatch down into a Control tower.. I dunno), but where is the main access from?
Most control towers have an elevator or stairs to reach the top level. I saw no such indications on the floor or sides of the tower for a door?
That's pretty much the issue I have with it as well only a one person wide access hatch so not very practical for cargo etc. it would need a lift or a crane.
I'm only interested in the resin add ons so it won't bother me anyway (I'm not a fan of HDF/MDF nice designs here but I don't like the material)
I love the thought that has gone in to the recreation module. When somebody makes a piece of terrain that represents a place where people eat, I always find myself thinking "Where is this food actually prepared and cooked? Where are the frozen food / ingredients stored?"
It's a silly thing, but it always bugs me. You see that in ship blue prints a lot, too. Here is the bridge, here are the berths, this is the table where the crew sit down and eat.. okay, sure. But where exactly are you keeping six months of food for your crew of 10 or is everybody eating pot noodles?
I was going to ignore this since I've gotten some Systema stuff by now but damn, this is really great looking stuff, it might turn into a very expensive month.
Either protecting yourself against the indigenous Fauna, or other factions, it is often necessary to hold weaponry close at hand - Habitat 9 is a purpose built Armoury built by Grupo Seguridad which includes a high-security inner-working area, along with secure serving-hatch and a total of six frames of weaponry, 3 secured behind perspex screens.
Also comes with resin high-security doors and internal armoured-window (at service hatch) and a Weapons-Table for dismantling guns.
Dimensions:
L: 260
W:130
H:83
(You will have a choice of per-faction weaponry for the internal display areas and one "mixed-bag" of weapons from different factions mixed together. All components of this Habitat are included in the basic price - resin, interior, exteriors)
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Lets have a few shots of a 4x4 table....
This table can be made with the "Power Strain" level of buildings, plus the exterior scatter set.. (more info as soon as we can on those other pledges, add-ons and all the resin)
the creator picks the time themselves AW have picked 8PM GMT - the KS will be called Forward Base, I'm sure a link will appear here shortly after it goes live.
Alpharius wrote: I'm guessing/hoping that all the various buildings will also be available 'individually' too?
Yep answered just now you can get them individually as add ons but they are cheaper in the bundles.
Antenociti's Workshop .... You will be able to add any individual Habitat to a pledge as an individual add-on, but swapping one for a different sort is not straightforward - I am not ruling that out, but I need our spreadsheet guru to do the calculations and see where it is possible...and that wont happen until next week.
However, what you can certainly do is take a smaller pledge and add-on the Recreation Hab, but bear in mind that the add-ons are not as well discounted as in the higher pledge packages.
That said: we want to be as flexible as we can, and we will respond to demand wherever we can, so im not going to rule anything out at this point.
So as asked before, any word on if you can get the buildings w/o paint? Bad month/year to buy more terrain. Maybe some scatter. Wouldn't be *too* expensive to make a 2x2/deadzone board out of this stuff but I have so much other terrain as it is.
overtyrant wrote: It's a bit more expensive to fill a 4x4 then I originally thought. May have to have a closer look at plastcraft games infinity terrain.
The prices above are with resin interior detailing, interior scatter, exterior scatter an vehicles. You could easily fill a 4x4 with just the buildings for a lot less based on the other posted pricing.
overtyrant wrote: It's a bit more expensive to fill a 4x4 then I originally thought. May have to have a closer look at plastcraft games infinity terrain.
The prices above are with resin interior detailing, interior scatter, exterior scatter an vehicles. You could easily fill a 4x4 with just the buildings for a lot less based on the other posted pricing.
Fair point, I quite like this scenery. I'll wait till the KS is released before making a decision.
Well, I think this just proved that we can indeed expect a few vehicles in this Kickstarter. Looks like the Samsara is in for sure. It looks like the Merekat Explorer is in that video, too. *sigh* Here I was hoping I could skip this one. I'll have to get a Samsara for sure. Heaven help me if the Chickenhawk shows up in this Kickstarter.
All of the pledge levels. The EBs are for early shipping and are limited in numbers same price as later delivery option. The £200 an up levels are limited to 20 of each on total.
Pledge £1 or more
If you wish to support us with a small donation, or keep a foot in the door for after the KS closes, then this small pledge is for you!
Pledge £24 or more
Power to the People!: Collection of resin exterior scatter; 4 power stacks, 5 energy barrels, 3 portable generators, 14 porta-powers. Estimated delivery: Mar 2015
Pledge £35 or more
20 Only - (WAVE 1): Home Alone: Habitat 1 x1 Habitat 3 x1 Estimated delivery: Mar 2015
Pledge £35 or more
(WAVE 2): Home Alone? Habitat 1 x1 Habitat 3 x1 Estimated delivery: Jun 2015
Pledge £41 or more
"It's Life Jim...": Full set of Paradiso Sails and a full set of Fallen Trees. Estimated delivery: Mar 2015
Pledge £56 or more
(WAVE 2): Phoenix Cargoes: Resin and MDF bundle: full set of crate-barricades, 2 TAG crates, 4 Space Barrels, 2 Space Crates, 6 Corporate Containers. Estimated delivery: Mar 2015
Pledge £59 or more
20 only - (WAVE 1): First Base? Habitat 1 x1 Habitat 3 x1 Habitat 4 x1 Estimated delivery: Mar 2015
Pledge £59 or more
(WAVE 2): First Base? Habitat 1 x1 Habitat 3 x1 Habitat 4 x1 Estimated delivery: Jun 2015
Pledge £73 or more
"On the Move": Samsara Utility Vehicle, City Hopper, Merekat Explorer, Fork-Lift. Estimated delivery: Mar 2015
10 only (WAVE 1) "Power Strain PLUS": All the Buildings in the "Power Strain" bundle plus all interior resin for them, plus "Its Life Jim", "Power to the People" and "Crate-Tastic" resin bundles, plus Card-Ends, Translucent Windows, MIrrored Solar Panels and choice of Weathering and logos. Merekat Explorer, Samsara Utility Vehicle, Fork-Lift Truck, City Hopper. Estimated delivery: Mar 2015
Pledge £400 or more
10 only (WAVE 2) "Power Strain PLUS": All the Buildings in the "Power Strain" bundle plus all interior resin for them, plus "Its Life Jim", "Power to the People" and "Crate-Tastic" resin bundles, plus Card-Ends, Translucent Windows, MIrrored Solar Panels and choice of Weathering and logos. Merekat Explorer, Samsara Utility Vehicle, Fork-Lift Truck, City Hopper. Estimated delivery: Jun 2015
Pledge £500 or more
10 only (WAVE 1) - "FORWARD BASE PLUS": All of the buildings in the Forward Base bundle PLUS: All interior resin for those buildings (both interior panels and scatter), Resin bundles: "Its Life Jim", "Power to the People" and "Phoenix Cargoes", plus translucent windows and doors, mirrored solar panels, choice of weathering, choice of Logos, Card Ends, Samsara Utility Vehicle, City Hopper, Merekat Explorer and Fork-Lift truck Estimated delivery: Mar 2015
Pledge £500 or more
10 only (WAVE 2) - "FORWARD BASE PLUS": All of the buildings in the Forward Base bundle PLUS: All interior resin for those buildings (both interior panels and scatter), Resin bundles: "Its Life Jim", "Power to the People" and "Phoenix Cargoes", plus translucent windows and doors, mirrored solar panels, choice of weathering, choice of Logos, Card Ends, Samsara Utility Vehicle, City Hopper, Merekat Explorer and Fork-Lift truck Estimated delivery: Jun 2015
Shipping covers pledeges up to 30kg in weight (Forward base +is 24kg)
UK £6
Zone 1 - Netherlands, France, Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg - £12
Zone 2 - Austria, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Portugal, Spain, Sweden - £17
Zone 3 - US and Canada - £20
Zone 4 - Croatia, Czech Republic, Greece, Hungary, Norway, Poland, Switzerland - £29
Zone 5 - Australia, Japn, Russia, New Zealand - £45
Selling the company more than the product, including stuff like metal casting, etc..? The base is almost an afterthought in the video-
And while it certainly makes the company look competent (was there doubts about it?), the video is very impersonal. Never a face, a name, a "hello, this is who we are", a group-shot?
20 squiggly lines isn't nearly that much but it's still too much for me. I probably couldn't afford more than one or two habitats or a set of scatter, plus the large shipping means I'll have to sit out entirely most likely.
Wow, that US shipping is going to make things pricey. The buildings are all really nice, but I want those vehicles so much more. It sounds like they're going to do like Mantic though and allow people to increase pledges after the KS ends, not to mention keeping the pledge manager open for a good long while.
Normally I'd be really worried about the complexity of pledges.
Antenociti's portion of my Deadzone Kickstarter was the only thing correct from the beginning, so they might be able to pull this off without a huge cluster.
I feel like the tricky thing with these habitats is.. having just one or two is going to look a bit odd unless you are going for an 'Avatar' look with a prefab dropped in the middle of the dense jungle. The angles and level of detail don't seem like they would mesh well with.. say.. the Deadzone scenery either.
Clearly our only recourse is to buy a ton of these buildings
Yeah that's another thing that turned me off. They look awesome, but they're also.. I dunno... just so, which makes them difficult to integrate with my other scenery. And I already have so much of the DZ stuff.
I'm going to build a desert style table for my Haqq and plan on incorporating a lot of natural rock formations for cover instead of buildings so these "portable" type buildings will do great for outposts in the barren rocky landscape I envision. So freaking stoked!
Now if I could only figure out how to get the pledge level I want WITH all the resin do-dads without having to buy the whole farm. Will there be add-ons for each hab building's resin bits or something? Specifically I was wanting "Crowded House" with all the resin parts.
I'm not seeing how the levels are confusing when comparing them with the picture of the bundles previously posted. Looks like each one is split onto "waves" for early backers to get their stuff earlier (What a CONCEPT! ).
Hmm, not convinced yet on the pre-painted malarky, no inter building bridges available and the lack of a freight elevator on habitat 7 is a bit of a schoolboy error. But other than that ...
... holy crap that's a lot of table for £500.
Does anybody have a high resolution pic of their Phoenix Industries poster? I can't quite make out some of the logos.
Alpharius wrote: Everything seems pretty clear to me - now...actually being able to afford everything I want, well, that's another thing!
That is where my dilemma is currently. It looks great but still expensive, kind of wish there was an unpainted version with a reduced cost. The issue I'm having is deciding the direction to go... if I drop this much into scenery (which I've said previously I wouldn't) then do I get this or get New Paranoia from CNC Workshop instead. They are both great looking but $800 I could only get one or the other, not both. Here is hoping I don't end up getting a divorce.
Going to buy soooo much rooftop fittings/interior scatter/panels to put on my Necromunda buildings... not really a fan of the buildings themselves though, they're very nicely designed but I don't like the aesthetic and they are so strongly themed that you basically need an entire table of them.
Well yes, they're themed to a more near-future 'hab block' sci-fi style of something like Infinity or Mass Effect amongst others, rather than the more gothic-industrial specific style of something like Necromunda.
I have a goodly amount of terrain now due to my Underground Lasers and Bug Hunt Corridors.
That scatter terrain and interior detailing however, looks friggin fantabulous. I may have to see if I can get in on someone's order, or just do a $1 pledge and get some stuff as add-ons.
Assuming I can sell some plasma, or money falls from the sky or something.
caylentor wrote: I was on at 20:00 on the dot and I only managed to snag a wave 2 pledge.
Well at least you got a wave 2! So seems like all the top pledges are gone. I cant afford that but I still got a sweet sweet spot in the science center as half those pledges are already gone. I wonder what they are going to do. Did the expect for all their posted SGs to be blow out of the water in less than 7 min? I mean what, its 7K over the last stretch goal. I am curious as to what they have planned.
Hmmm just seen that they have put Ireland in Zone 3 £20 postage along with the US and Canada, either it's a mistake or I'm out and will wait for the stuff to appear in store and get free postage over £75
Still to come:
Individual Habitats as add-ons
Individual Scatter as add-ons
Individual Panels as add-ons
Building Components as add-ons
Alternative Vehicle Bundles
Alternative Scatter Bundles
I wonder how they'll handle shipping on all those 'individual orders' type of...orders?
Probably be calculated IN the eventual PM I'd imagine.
Heh, I know exactly what you mean! The only thing stopping me from jumping in at the Science Centre pledge is the fact that it is going to cost another £80 to get the interior panels and scatter terrain.
Hmm, on the preview page they had a chart telling you how much it would cost to get the add-ons / boosters for each pledge level. That seems to be missing from the live page. Nope, it is there. I'm just blind!
Seems like Forward Base + has less value with all of the stretch-goal add-ons adding stuff that was already included in the '+' pledges.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding them.
I know they calculated very sharply, or at least that is what they are saying, but 160 eur for 3 mdf containers (MASH level) with resin panels only - which admittedly are the nicest terrain brought out in a long while - that is not my definition of a "steal"... And then I would have to wait until June-August... I think I will wait until next year and just buy the panels (bunk beds especially) when they appear in shop... *sigh*
On the bright side, I will save that money to spend on Tabletopworld's next Xmas offer.
The cargo-handling "Service 'bot " is now unlocked and available as an add-on (If you have a PLUS pledge then you will receive one of these within your PLUS pledge at no extra cost):
( Just to clarify - there are 2 'bots and 2 cargo per pack)
It's definitely the resin, and the etched clear doors, that make this stuff really pop. Without that it's just another set of boxes on stilts that everyone in the future will apparently live in.
It kind of makes me wish I'd been able to back the Bug Hunt Corridors kickstarter - with those hexagonal cross-sections, the walls seem like they would take the AW interior panels really well.
Extra top-tier pledges to be made available...
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We've had a meeting this morning to discuss the many, many requests that we have had to open up new PLUS pledges and more of the top-tier building-only pledges.
We do not want to create a very extended or open-ended delivery schedule that would mean people are waiting a very, very long time for their buildings; that was the core reason for the Wave system to avoid an uncontrollable deluge of orders that surpassed our capacity to deal with within a reasonable period of time or, meant that there was an interminable wait for your items… it is something that we would not be comfortable with.
We've always calculated our capacity on the basis of a single-shift: that allowed us the time to ensure a timely dispatch should something unexpected occur: if we lost any days we could always run a 2nd shift to make up time.
This means that our “capacity” is on a single shift basis and in order to create more pledges we could simply say “OK, let’s do a double shift.”
Experience, however, tells us that this means you no longer have any spare capacity for when something does go wrong, and something always does go wrong. So we’re not happy to open more pledges to be fulfilled in a 2nd shift and we’re not going to do that.
At this point in time in the KS we are much farther ahead of where we anticipated we would be and we are now just about “at capacity” for our laser systems (with a pre-existing buffer for additional work through add-ons). (Resin we have oodles of spare capacity): However, we cannot simply increase the amount of large pledges without increasing our capacity, which means we would have to buy in new laser systems to be able to comfortably add new pledges to the KS.
We've made the decision to do that.
That means that we will be able to put up a new wave for additional extra top-tier building pledges and PLUS pledges. We are now working on a method for doing this that is as fair as possible and will cause the least disruption/confusion… and that may take a day or so to work out, but is now firmly in “The Plan™”
Once we've decided on how to proceed we will give plenty of advance notice of when the new pledges will open and how existing Power-Strain to Forward Base pledges may be upgraded to PLUS, rather than needing to cancel and re-pledge.
Please Note: This will not affect WAVE 1 delivery times.
WAVE 2 delivery times may move forward.
WAVE 3 delivery times will be posted with a notional dispatch of September 2015, however the anticipated dispatch will be June/July 2015.
Vehicles will be coming shortly, yes, just working on some supporting graphics.
Also to follow are the "Building Components" such as doors, windows, lights and so forth... the delay is rather down to be being ahead of where we thought we would be on day 2!
Individual habitat add on prices
Resin add on prices a scatter pack at retail is £7.50 so 10% discount on 1 pack and up to 33% if you buy 15 (£5 each)
I just asked. The prices are correct. The beds specifically are two pieces each and even come with accessories like scanners and IV bags. So this is officially the cheapest resin furniture in the scale, easily.
Well there's always a chance. Can always take inspiration from the designs even if I don't end up buying them too. At least I'm not here trolling the company because I don't like them =/
Antenocitis scatter terrain is very good. The stuff I have from Deadzone is second to none - so I have went in for a Power to the People... Now to work out the shipping to Northern Ireland!!!
Good luck hopefully you get the UK rate, still not sure about the Republic of Ireland being the same as US and Canada and more than Andorra or Monaco! but I spoke to Jed about it and he said that's what the courier company came back with and that's a maximum cost. As I'm going for just resin I hope the pack will be below 2kg and it'll just be Royal Mail at cost.
EDIT: They confirmed Northern Ireland is UK rate £6
DaveC wrote: Good luck hopefully you get the UK rate, still not sure about the Republic of Ireland being the same as US and Canada and more than Andorra or Monaco! but I spoke to Jed about it and he said that's what the courier company came back with and that's a maximum cost. As I'm going for just resin I hope the pack will be below 2kg and it'll just be Royal Mail at cost.
EDIT: They confirmed Northern Ireland is UK rate £6
I know so many people from border counties who get theirstuff delivered to NI to get cheaper/free postage, especially from Amazon lol! Six pounds is awesome, I'll probably add on some more bits and pieces.
...how much is that scatter, exactly? I'm in for a Work for All level, and I'm actually not at all sure of how much do the resin inserts or the scatter packs cost.
They put up a table work 4 all with resin everything is an extra £61.25
There's more resin packs to come for the interior panels and exterior stuff and vehicles they weren't expecting to be this far ahead so they haven't done the graphics yet.
A nice and simple stretch goal for the £50,000.00 level now that the add-on habitat prices are available is to extend the building stretch bonus items, to all add-on Habitats.
This means that after we hit £50,000.00 all Habitats, including add-ons, would now go out with Card-ends, Translucent doors/Windows, Mirrored Solar Panels and your choice of if you want them pristine or weathered.
The Meerkat is a lovely kit, good deal for £13.50. The wheel assembly is a bit of a pain though (it has no axles, so you have to fit 4 boom arms in a way that keeps all 4 wheels on the ground).
I'd love a Samsara, but £30 after a discount? Hmm.
Edit: Where are all the vehicles on the AW webstore? I'm sure there used to be double that amount.
Does anyone know if they're going to offer the exterior resin building pieces as stand alone addons? I want the air ducts, vents, lights, control panels and solar panels to fancy up the buildings I already have.
parcival42 wrote: Does anyone know if they're going to offer the exterior resin building pieces as stand alone addons? I want the air ducts, vents, lights, control panels and solar panels to fancy up the buildings I already have.
I haven't seen any mention but there might. There are enough exterior pieces though that you could probably use a couple from the pieces for other items though.
parcival42 wrote: Does anyone know if they're going to offer the exterior resin building pieces as stand alone addons? I want the air ducts, vents, lights, control panels and solar panels to fancy up the buildings I already have.
Opening up new pledges for new backers...
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Expansion Plan:
Short Version:
New Pledges to be released Thursday Midnight UK time (end of day Thursday)
Long Version:
With the heavy demand for more top-tier pledges we are going to embark on an extension and upgrade plan for certain pledges. We can do this as we have purchased new laser systems and have thus increased our capacity for laser cutting production.
Our main goal here is to let new backers in to the Forward Base Kickstarter with as little disruption to existing backers. So we are going to add a set of new pledges and some very limited upgrade options for some existing backers.
1) Wave 1 “Power Strain” backers can now get “Power Strain PLUS” and WAVE 1 “Forward Base” backers can now get “Forward Base PLUS” by increasing their pledge values to the appropriate pledge values – Do NOT cancel your pledge for a new one.
2) On Thursday night at Midnight (i.e. the end of the day on Thursday) we will release a WAVE 3 set of pledges. These are all new pledges. WAVE 3 delivery dates are posted as September 2015 but will be aimed at an earlier dispatch.
3) You cannot upgrade from one pledge type to another pledge type i.e. you cannot upgrade from Power Strain PLUS to Forward Base PLUS or from any lower pledge to any higher pledge.
That would cause serious issues for everything, so is just not possible..'that way lies madness'...
4) Once the new pledges have gone out, we will re-assess and possibly release further building-only pledges. We will see if we can swing things so that WAVE 2 “Power Strain” and “Forward Base” might be able to upgrade to the related PLUS version. That is not guaranteed to happen… it comes down to a lot of spreadsheet work and time calculations with a lot of variables.
There will be no further PLUS packages of this type available after this point.
5) PLEASE remember that we have no control over pledge allocation – so if you drop an existing pledge to attempt to get a ‘better’ pledge and cannot do so, then return to find your original pledge has gone – there is absolutely nothing we can do about that. It would be entirely at your own risk…and, please, do consider that as a possibility.
Also please bear in mind that if you drop a wave 1 or 2 pledge to get a WAVE 3 pledge this will mean that you move into WAVE 3 delivery schedule. Your pledge and wave are inexorably tied to one another.
So, what we would ask is that you view this as a few very limited bonus chances and a good opportunity for new backers to enter the Kickstarter… that is how we are looking at this: a chance to open up to new backers without disadvantaging existing backers.
With your continued support we've passed the £50,000.00 mark and so have enabled the building stretch bonuses to now be included with the add-on buildings.
Meaning that any building ordered will now come with Acrylic Windows, mirrored solar panels, cards-end and your choice of pristine or weathered. This is in addition to the resin doors and windows which you will still receive.
£65,000.00 Stretch Goal
The next stretch goal is a little bit bigger and to unlock TOPOs excellent Super-Hawk Drop-ship which can be seen in this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oteKWEYPbuY
This model has been available as a paper-model for some years now in the Infinity community as the "Chiken-Hawk" and proven to be very popular, Marcus aka "TOPO" has very kindly allowed us to reproduce it now in resin and for that has completely re-designed it to take advantage of the new material, producing a drop-ship with a really distinctive style.
At around 9 inches long its also pretty big, but you can just squeeze it onto the top of your Tower (Habitat 7), so it fits in excellently as part of a Forward Base.
New Pledges:
We will now be releasing a new WAVE (3) of Top-tier pledges on Thursday at midnight UK time as part of an ongoing expansion scheme to create more pledges for those who missed out on the opening day (or hour!).
More details on that will come out in a separate update...but make a note of that time: midnight Thursday 20th November (and if I have my times right: about 4pm in California, 6pm Dallas and around 11am (21st) in Australia.
Other points of interest:
Rooftop scatter add-ons will be out later this afternoon.
We're starting to produce the alternative primary colour building examples, which we will start showing from this week into next.
and.. whatever were those early stretch-goals...."Terminals" and "Signs"...? (mystery to be resolved today!)
I think I'll be going for the 15 scatter packs for £75 bundle and getting some ducting and other bits. That plus a City Hopper, SuperHawk and a Fork Lift and I think I'm all set It depends what comes out at the end they have saved some stuff for the last weekend and some might be KS exclusive (although it will be split costs between the KS and PM as I can only go £100 before Christmas).
Decisions... decisions. I really want to upgrade from my Forward Base to Forward Base PLUS but I am not sure. I don't think I've ever spent that much one KS, let alone just terrain, ever. If I do upgrade I'll probably have to cancel Kings of War pledge and maybe Norsgard and Anarchy Models stencils too.
Aw, I was hoping that they would have the upgraded solar panels available as addons. Does anyone know what it is they're using to get that effect? Is it some kind of foil?
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