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Post by: ausYenLoWang
Id want to remain an anonymous source saying that stuff to.... Whoever it is if they went public would get their head flushed for talking the proverbial.
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Post by: Crimson
I want to believe those Ad Mech rumour are true!
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a source that wants to remain anonymous wrote:
Mechanicus:
starting late 2014 early 2015.
"Pre-releases" starting early 2014 with finecast Servitors, plastic Turrets, LR Medusa, used already by other armies.
White Dwarf historical propaganda on Mars, titan variants etc.
Starting release based on only two huge plastic kits, around 55GBP each:
- Knight "Titan" (standard paladin, scout lancer + variants, many weapons).
- Knight "Lord" (very heavy crusader, support +, character baron blink).
Each Knighthold can have 3-4 knights at 1250 pts.
Depending on sales and demand, more smaller Ad Mech will be released starting middle 2016.
Ahahahaha this is hilarious. Natfka really needs more of those lovely page hits huh. I'd believe a Codex: Squats rumour over this one.
I'm always amazed at how many people use the term 'Knight Titan' despite it never ever being mentioned in the original Epic fluff. Knights are just super-heavy walkers on par with Ork Stompas (and when did anyone ever say 'Stompa Gargant'?).
They've never been considered Titans and yet the phrase keeps popping up. In this case it serves as a useful BS* detector.
* no, not ballistic skill
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Post by: Melissia
 Sasori wrote: pretre wrote:http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/04/mechanicus-adeptus.html#more
a source that wants to remain anonymous wrote:
Mechanicus:
starting late 2014 early 2015.
"Pre-releases" starting early 2014 with finecast Servitors, plastic Turrets, LR Medusa, used already by other armies.
White Dwarf historical propaganda on Mars, titan variants etc.
Starting release based on only two huge plastic kits, around 55GBP each:
- Knight "Titan" (standard paladin, scout lancer + variants, many weapons).
- Knight "Lord" (very heavy crusader, support +, character baron blink).
Each Knighthold can have 3-4 knights at 1250 pts.
Depending on sales and demand, more smaller Ad Mech will be released starting middle 2016.
"I'll believe that when me gak turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet."
Seconded. it's like crap is just spewing out from there.
I believe that whenever I physically hold the codex in my own hands. Until then, it's not real 
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Post by: Crimson
 xttz wrote:
I'm always amazed at how many people use the term 'Knight Titan' despite it never ever being mentioned in the original Epic fluff. Knights are just super-heavy walkers on par with Ork Stompas (and when did anyone ever say 'Stompa Gargant'?).
They've never been considered Titans and yet the phrase keeps popping up. In this case it serves as a useful BS* detector.
Well, 'knight' is just such a generic word that many people feel need to add qualifier 'titan' to specify that they're talking about giant walkers instead of, say some Dark Angel veterans.
And yes, I agree these rumours do not seem terribly credible. (Though weren't there another rumour about a huge Imperial walker earlier?)
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Post by: whembly
For the Eldar, I hope the Wraithguard/Lord get that same rule as that Necron creepycrawly thingy... War Construct rule has changed slightly which allows anything that doesn't use Fleshbane or Poison rules.
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Post by: TechmarineNic
I reckon that the SoB will be replaced by the new army in 2014.As for BT I don't know but I reckon they will either get a big update or be rolled into SM codex like dirt, it's sad really...
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Post by: pretre
I bet you a Paypal nickel they won't. 
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Post by: Ralis
I only have my own observations on this. But it seems to me that so far the new releases have been armies that have needed rules updates more then new models.
I think CSM got more new models then the other releases (I could be wrong)
So with that in mind: it wouldn't surprise me at all if SM or IG got an update in the near future, along with Eldar.
Maybe closer to the end of the year we'll see SoB or BT who do need a completely new model range.
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Post by: gorgon
We'll see about plastic AdMech, especially since most signs point to FW *someday* doing a HH book covering the Mechanicum of that era. But then GW is going to have to sell us something in 2015, right? At the rate they're going, most of the existing codices should be in good shape for 6th, and AdMech is one of biggest untapped ideas out there. Apoc and/or the allies system would also allow them to test market AdMech like the rumors suggest. None of this means that there's anything to those rumors, just that AdMech will always be a plausible new army.
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Post by: wowsmash
I was a little disappointed. Since they have been going with themes lately when designing updates. I was hoping to see a little bit more Japanese armor influence for the tau foot soldiers. Other wise I loved all the new stuff. Really looking forward to we what big Mek type thing there gunna give my orks.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
 -Loki- wrote: Mathieu Raymond wrote:Plastic stormtroopers and veterans? Dreamforge.
Plastic Knights and Big thingies for the Imperium on a large base? Dreamforge.
There, problem solved, and at a fraction of the cost.
I'm sorry... what? Speaking from Australian prices, the oval base large models sit in the $90au-$96au bracket. The Dreamforge mechs are $150au (I know, because my FLGS has a pile of them on display, and I was shocked when I saw the cost compared to the size, which is only slightly larger than the GW large oval base kits). I don't see how nearly double the cost translates to a fraction of the cost.
Yes, I see if you're looking only at the currently available product, you could get that impression. But the 15mm version of the huge mech will be on a 60mm base, and stand around 4.5 inches tall. They should retail for 45$ more or less. SOrry, I should have mentionned that they are not released quite yet.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
pretre wrote:"I'll believe that when me gak turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet."
We are in complete agreement. And yeah, they're not titans. Even the first HH book FW put out refers to them as "Heavy Walkers".
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Post by: suspiratus
Wished I read this before ordering a High Elves codex ... 
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Post by: Alpharius
 H.B.M.C. wrote: pretre wrote:"I'll believe that when me gak turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet."
We are in complete agreement.
And yeah, they're not titans. Even the first HH book FW put out refers to them as "Heavy Walkers".
Pagin Platuan4th, STAT!
Anyway, this is one of those crazy rumors that you just somehow still hope could be true...
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Post by: Kroothawk
High Elf Codex is rare and sought after. High Elf armybook is dated
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Post by: Snrub
pretre wrote:"I'll believe that when me gak turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet."
I can help you with 50% of that. If you eat a plateful of roast Beetroot you'll start gakking purple. The sherbet part might be a little trickyer... 
a source that wants to remain anonymous wrote:
Mechanicus:
starting late 2014 early 2015.
"Pre-releases" starting early 2014 with finecast Servitors, plastic Turrets, LR Medusa, used already by other armies.
White Dwarf historical propaganda on Mars, titan variants etc.
Starting release based on only two huge plastic kits, around 55GBP each:
- Knight "Titan" (standard paladin, scout lancer + variants, many weapons).
- Knight "Lord" (very heavy crusader, support +, character baron blink).
Each Knighthold can have 3-4 knights at 1250 pts.
Depending on sales and demand, more smaller Ad Mech will be released starting middle 2016.
As for this steaming pile of hooey. It's so laughable its sad.
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Post by: pizzaguardian
 Kroothawk wrote:
High Elf Codex is rare and sought after. High Elf armybook is dated
Wasnt Eldar in June? Let it be in June.
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Post by: Just Dave
To be fair, they did refer to them as titans with inverted commas: it could've just been for clarity.
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Post by: Nicorex
Ralis wrote:But it seems to me that so far the new releases have been armies that have needed rules updates more then new models.
I think CSM got more new models then the other releases (I could be wrong)
Maybe closer to the end of the year we'll see SoB or BT who do need a completely new model range.
6th edition new codex models breakdown like this.
CSM: 9 new units, 1 release moved to Finecast and boxed into a unit of 3 (Obliterators)
Dark Angels: 7 new units
Tau:7 new units, 1 total remake model (Broadside),
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Post by: Davespil
Necrons got about 20 new units including FC ICs. But they really had a crap army to begin with.
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Post by: pretre
And in typical fashion, Natfka reverses...
an Anonymous Source wrote:
Mechanicus Adeptus
GW is not introducing any new full armies. They're really happy with the spectrum of options currently available.
Forgeworld is adding a few mechanicus units per Horus Heresy Book, that by the time they're on the 3rd or 4th book will have enough options for a full list.
New Mini-Dex's
There are still ideas about mini-dex's that have very few options and are very one dimensioned.
I.E.
1 HQ choice
1-2 troops
1 Elite/Fast Attack/Heavy Support
Granted you could run it as a pure army but it wouldn't work very well.
They're a ways out. After all the codexes are updated.
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Post by: Kroothawk
There MUST be a level, where he realizes that he is constantly trolled.
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Post by: Ralis
 Nicorex wrote:Ralis wrote:But it seems to me that so far the new releases have been armies that have needed rules updates more then new models.
I think CSM got more new models then the other releases (I could be wrong)
Maybe closer to the end of the year we'll see SoB or BT who do need a completely new model range.
6th edition new codex models breakdown like this.
CSM: 9 new units, 1 release moved to Finecast and boxed into a unit of 3 (Obliterators)
Dark Angels: 7 new units
Tau:7 new units, 1 total remake model (Broadside),
Thank you.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I know this is 40K... but aside from a sprinkgling of High Elves, rumours for May have been very sparse, no?
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Post by: stormboy
Mathieu Raymond wrote:I know this is 40K... but aside from a sprinkgling of High Elves, rumours for May have been very sparse, no?
We are still a couple weeks away from the standard White Dwarf leak.
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Post by: FarseerAndyMan
OOOOHHHH I hope its ELDAR!!
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Post by: Kanluwen
stormboy wrote: Mathieu Raymond wrote:I know this is 40K... but aside from a sprinkgling of High Elves, rumours for May have been very sparse, no?
We are still a couple weeks away from the standard White Dwarf leak.
To be fair we already had that; except it was on the Facebook pages of the North American shops.
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Post by: Nictolopy
Eldar would be quite cool. My best friend and Warhammer buddy wants to start collecting them at some point and this might actually motivate him to do so.
I am hoping (in vain) for the new plastic Greater Daemon models to be released soon if they actually have them coming. I was quite let down that they weren't in the initial Chaos Daemon release. I am still somewhat hopeful that those are in the works somewhere and were not just internet gossip.
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Post by: Lockark
They could do a Ad mec army easily, Their is tones of descriptions of the different kinds of Skitiri and Tec-Gaurd forces over the years in black libery books. Ton of insperation to draw from for units and factions that could be covered in a book. Also GW likes their big kits, and all the diffrent varients of knight titans means they woul have plenty of big kits they can sell for years for a ad mec army. (Even more so if said book can ally with both loyalists and chaos forces for Dark Mec)
The ad mec could also be interesting from a game play perspective. Alot of cheap infantry with expensive elite units and big walkers laying down fire.
But the truth is that any talk of playable Ad mec is to good to be true, unless more creditable Rumor mongers start coming foreword. I'm not holding my breath for ad mec. lol
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Post by: Yodhrin
 Alpharius wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote: pretre wrote:"I'll believe that when me gak turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet."
We are in complete agreement.
And yeah, they're not titans. Even the first HH book FW put out refers to them as "Heavy Walkers".
Pagin Platuan4th, STAT!
Anyway, this is one of those crazy rumors that you just somehow still hope could be true...
Honestly, given the current aesthetic sensibilities at the design studio, I'd rather they left AdMech to Forge World and our imaginations, because the thought of the sort of bilious monstrosity they'd release and call "Knight" makes me queasy. I have nightmares about an Adeptus Mechanicus codex that includes Knights which combine, Power Rangers-style, into the new Awesomesausezors-pattern Mega-Super-Titan 
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Post by: kronk
Sorry dude. Next month will most likely be High Elves.
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Post by: Flood
AdMech will be a reserve idea for when they've re-done everything else and are still losing money.
I'm tempted to anonymously mail naftka details for a Hrud release which is imminent this year lol
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Post by: Alpharius
 Flood wrote:AdMech will be a reserve idea for when they've re-done everything else and are still losing money.
I'm pretty sure that was their unofficial alleged stance on the Horus Heresy and Primarchs.
Until someone smarted up and realized how much money they were leaving on the table!
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Post by: Davespil
I think they plan on bringing the core game and all its codexes up do date then trying to expand the universe with supplements and such. Ad Mech, a SM supplement that has some rules for white scars, slamanders, and the like. Maybe mini-dexes and WD releases.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Ya know, hastings just said move the Orks in his post. He never said move the orcs back. Orcs could just as easily be the next codex released, and considering they have some of the most outdated kits running around (don't play dawn of war and then expect to get half of what you see in that game for the Orks in particular) getting an update this summer BEFORE Eldar is a possibility, unless I missed some other comment. Automatically Appended Next Post:  Davespil wrote:I think they plan on bringing the core game and all its codexes up do date then trying to expand the universe with supplements and such. Ad Mech, a SM supplement that has some rules for white scars, slamanders, and the like. Maybe mini-dexes and WD releases.
Realizing my bias towards Salamaders, I still like they should get a WD army list. Their fluff doesn't line up with itself at this point (Like having an "elite" first company, yet all the companies are seperated by where you're from, so veterans would be completely split between all the companies) so it needs to be solidified, He'stan made them infinitely more popular, for the love of god just make them look like Africans and not burnt toast, the limited use of bikes and speeders, rampant use of assault weapons, the adding of a few Salamader army items in the main dex.......They just plain need their own list at this point. 3 Assault weapons in Tactical squads with no Heavy, No Speeders, No Standard Bikes only Attack Bikes, and Scout Bikes in the Fast attack vehicles (Both limited to one squad choice) a mix and match of some of the vehicles from other lists (Baal Pattern Predator for example) are just a few of the things you might see. An emphasis on Tech Marines, meltas, flamers, and an army you have to out-manuver cause you will loose if you just charge forward or stand and shoot.
White Scars.....what an under-developed, under-valued Chapter. There is so much you could with these guys giving them special weapons/bikes, all able to deploy and be picked up quickly. Don't know as much about them as I would like to so hopefully they do see some love and get a supplimental list themselves and not just a figure that lets you take a hundred bikes as your army.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Earth Dragon wrote:Ya know, hastings just said move the Orks in his post. He never said move the orcs back. Orcs could just as easily be the next codex released, and considering they have some of the most outdated kits running around (don't play dawn of war and then expect to get half of what you see in that game for the Orks in particular) getting an update this summer BEFORE Eldar is a possibility, unless I missed some other comment.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Davespil wrote:I think they plan on bringing the core game and all its codexes up do date then trying to expand the universe with supplements and such. Ad Mech, a SM supplement that has some rules for white scars, slamanders, and the like. Maybe mini-dexes and WD releases.
Realizing my bias towards Salamaders, I still like they should get a WD army list. Their fluff doesn't line up with itself at this point (Like having an "elite" first company, yet all the companies are seperated by where you're from, so veterans would be completely split between all the companies) so it needs to be solidified, He'stan made them infinitely more popular, for the love of god just make them look like Africans and not burnt toast, the limited use of bikes and speeders, rampant use of assault weapons, the adding of a few Salamader army items in the main dex.......They just plain need their own list at this point. 3 Assault weapons in Tactical squads with no Heavy, No Speeders, No Standard Bikes only Attack Bikes, and Scout Bikes in the Fast attack vehicles (Both limited to one squad choice) a mix and match of some of the vehicles from other lists (Baal Pattern Predator for example) are just a few of the things you might see. An emphasis on Tech Marines, meltas, flamers, and an army you have to out-manuver cause you will loose if you just charge forward or stand and shoot.
White Scars.....what an under-developed, under-valued Chapter. There is so much you could with these guys giving them special weapons/bikes, all able to deploy and be picked up quickly. Don't know as much about them as I would like to so hopefully they do see some love and get a supplimental list themselves and not just a figure that lets you take a hundred bikes as your army.
We absolutely, positively, definitively do not need another Marine 'dex, of any size or colour. What we do need is a Codex: Space Marines that lets us represent modest divergence from the norm, like I don't know, some sort of "traits system" - wow, what an amazing idea, it's a wonder GW have never thought of it
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Post by: Earth Dragon
As long as the trait system expanded upon. It was pretty weak, and it didn't give any sort of special equipment.
But I also don't see the harm in having even 10 Marine Lists. They just need to be in 2-3 books. There is usually a lot of wasted space on the pages of Unit lists. Find a better format. There are books that LITERALLY list units 3 seperate times (4 if you count the condensed list in the back). What is the point in that? Give us more value in the codex. Space Marine Dexes are easy to do this since you don't have to provide lots of fluff for most of the units since its just more marines with different weapons. Do you really need to have 5 paragraphs to explain a Devastator squad? No.
So give their biggest money maker more variety on how we can play them just package it much better.
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Post by: GTKA666
Well since it's looking like High Elves are next I guess we can say the rumors were half right . Eldar in june then or at least A 40k codex?
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Post by: bit81
Have to say eldar need the update before orks as much as I love orks I play both armies and feel that eldar are the ones who need an up to date codex more
As I feel half there units are a pointless thing and are very expensive in the points department for not getting anything
Kind of dreading the ork codex can see orks and imperial gaurd taking a hammering
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Post by: xttz
bit81 wrote:Have to say eldar need the update before orks as much as I love orks I play both armies and feel that eldar are the ones who need an up to date codex more
As I feel half there units are a pointless thing and are very expensive in the points department for not getting anything
Kind of dreading the ork codex can see orks and imperial gaurd taking a hammering
Eldar don't just need the new codex, their range contains some of the oldest GW sculpts still around. I came across an old issue of White Dwarf the other day which had a preview of soon-to-be-released Aspect Warriors... from 1990. Many of those models are still in production today (albeit in resin rather than pewter).
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Post by: Mr Morden
GTKA666 wrote:Well since it's looking like High Elves are next I guess we can say the rumors were half right . Eldar in june then or at least A 40k codex?
Maybe they will do a Elves and Eldar release like with Demons
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Post by: bit81
yeah noticed that on the swooping hawks I just bought 1999 the sculpts where made 14 years old
I think the striking scorpions are the oldest sculpts aspect wise
just hope they give eldar better stuff the second most advanced race (necrons being first) and they have some of the worst range weapons in the game
lol no chance of elves and eldar release at same time I get the feeling that the schedule will be pushed back a bit with the tau disaster
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Post by: shamikebab
Indeed, Eldar codex is hopelessly out of date now and the model range needs a complete revamp (I can't believe that I've come back into the hobby after over a decade out and I'm still seeing most of the same models for Eldar :/)
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Post by: PredaKhaine
bit81 wrote:yeah noticed that on the swooping hawks I just bought 1999 the sculpts where made 14 years old
I think the striking scorpions are the oldest sculpts aspect wise
just hope they give eldar better stuff the second most advanced race (necrons being first) and they have some of the worst range weapons in the game
lol no chance of elves and eldar release at same time I get the feeling that the schedule will be pushed back a bit with the tau disaster
Scorpions have both been re-done a couple of times. I've got multiple sculpts of them 
Wraithguard still have the same look - they've moved to finecast though.
Eldrad ain't changed much either...
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Post by: Brother SRM
bit81 wrote:yeah noticed that on the swooping hawks I just bought 1999 the sculpts where made 14 years old
I think the striking scorpions are the oldest sculpts aspect wise
just hope they give eldar better stuff the second most advanced race (necrons being first) and they have some of the worst range weapons in the game
lol no chance of elves and eldar release at same time I get the feeling that the schedule will be pushed back a bit with the tau disaster
EDIT: I'm bad! Thought Swooping Hawks were still using their oldest sculpts.
Swooping Hawks are actually older than 1999; here's a catalogue page from 1994:
The Aspects were all redone in late 4th, around 2006-2007, with the exception of Swooping Hawks and Warp Spiders. The other models of similar age are the Warlocks, Eldrad, Wraithguard, Vypers, and jetbikes. Eldar won't need quite the level of doing over that Dark Eldar got, but they'll need a significant update.
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Post by: PredaKhaine
I don't think I've ever seen any other/newer sculpts of the phoenix lords either.
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Post by: Shandara
Swooping hawks did get new sculpts in 1999
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1251703_99110104103_ELDSwpngHwksmain_445x319.jpg
Warp Spiders are the only ones still with their original sculpt.
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Post by: Brother SRM
My bad! I actually haven't seen anyone use Swooping Hawks who hasn't been using them since the dawn of time, so I assumed those were the only ones
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Post by: Kroothawk
 Shandara wrote:Warp Spiders are the only ones still with their original sculpt.
Wraith Guard, Jetbikes, the Phoenix Lords, an Avatar and a few Warlocks would like to have a word with you
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Post by: PredaKhaine
 Brother SRM wrote:My bad! I actually haven't seen anyone use Swooping Hawks who hasn't been using them since the dawn of time, so I assumed those were the only ones
I looked at the pic you found, thought 'those are the same as mine' so you must be right. I forgot I bought mine in about 1995
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Post by: scarletsquig
And to make matters worse, a lot of the new sculpts aren't actually better than the original 2nd edition ones from 20 years ago.
Howling banshees are a good example. Great looking models back then, and still are.
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Post by: shamikebab
Some of the Phoenix Lords have aged really well, Karandras in particular though....has not.
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Post by: Shandara
Kroothawk wrote: Shandara wrote:Warp Spiders are the only ones still with their original sculpt.
Wraith Guard, Jetbikes, the Phoenix Lords, an Avatar and a few Warlocks would like to have a word with you
Of the aspects I mean
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Post by: mjl7atlas
Is there any chance the rumoured Apoc update release large plastic kits would actually be the fabled plastic Warhound? What would the counter part be as well? Tyranid Bio-Titan? I really don't see how or why they haven't cashed in on that pile of cash.
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Post by: Brother SRM
 mjl7atlas wrote:Is there any chance the rumoured Apoc update release large plastic kits would actually be the fabled plastic Warhound? What would the counter part be as well? Tyranid Bio-Titan? I really don't see how or why they haven't cashed in on that pile of cash.
I think the plastic Warhound is just six years of wishlisting piled on top of itself.
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Post by: Kirasu
 scarletsquig wrote:And to make matters worse, a lot of the new sculpts aren't actually better than the original 2nd edition ones from 20 years ago.
Howling banshees are a good example. Great looking models back then, and still are.
Eh.. the 2nd edition banshees are a bit boring in pose and don't compare much to the current banshees which are MUCH cooler looking. Now, 2nd edition scorpions are better than 3rd edition however I prefer modern sculpts. Eldar has quite a lot of updated models but yes they have a ton of old ones as well.
My theory is that we'll get a bigger wraithlord, a flyer/bomber kit, dual wraithguard/ CC wraithguard kit, jetbikes and random characters.
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Post by: Alpharius
 shamikebab wrote:Some of the Phoenix Lords have aged really well, Karandras in particular though....has not.
We'll have to agree to disagree there - I love the Karandras sculpt and in fact, i ti s the only reaosn I've kept my Eldar!
I will admit it to the paint-job being very important on him though...
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Alpharius wrote: shamikebab wrote:Some of the Phoenix Lords have aged really well, Karandras in particular though....has not.
We'll have to agree to disagree there - I love the Karandras sculpt and in fact, i ti s the only reaosn I've kept my Eldar!
I will admit it to the paint-job being very important on him though...
Yeah.....it reads Karandras but I immediately interpretted it in my mind as Jain Zar. She is the one in desperate need of a new model. Karandras and Maugan Ra could probably keep their sculpts for another decade!!
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Post by: PredaKhaine
Fuegan = best phoenix lord/joint worst sculpt (ties with Bahraroth)
Nearly 2D, the pair of em.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Well of course they're 2d. That's how spin-casted metal models work. You'll notice that the only additions that branch out into the Z-dimension are additional parts.
All of them bar Jain Zarr still look amazing. Saw a great paintjob on Asurman the other day. Still an amazing model that's stoof the test of time.
Kroothawk wrote:Wraith Guard, Jetbikes, the Phoenix Lords, an Avatar and a few Warlocks would like to have a word with you
The Jetbike? No, there's a Jetbike that was around before the current one. The current one is still 2nd Ed era, but it's no original. The Phoenix Lords are older.
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Post by: PredaKhaine
H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Jetbike? No, there's a Jetbike that was around before the current one. The current one is still 2nd Ed era, but it's no original. The Phoenix Lords are older.
Have you got a link to any pics?
I remember the harlequin jetbike (and wraithlord) but I don't remember any older jetbkes - now I'm curious
Edit:nevermind, I found some. Like the one's we have now, but without the bits on the back.
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Post by: Temujin
That picture of howling banshees next to some wyches they put out at the time of the Dark Eldar release made it clear how badly the aspect warriors could do with a proper plastic revamp. The Dark Eldar plastics make them look as graceful as ogryns.
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Post by: xttz
PredaKhaine wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Jetbike? No, there's a Jetbike that was around before the current one. The current one is still 2nd Ed era, but it's no original. The Phoenix Lords are older.
Have you got a link to any pics?
I remember the harlequin jetbike (and wraithlord) but I don't remember any older jetbkes - now I'm curious
Edit:nevermind, I found some. Like the one's we have now, but without the bits on the back.
There was a metal jetbike in the late 80's Rogue Trader days, then the plastic one was released for the first Codex: Eldar in 1994. That sculpt is nearly 20 years old.
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Post by: Spazamataz
Comon guys.. if GW was goin to resculpt the phoenix lords they would do all of them at once without warning and watch as all the hardcore elder.. (sadly a great deal many even after all these year in the darkness of space fluffwise, modelwise and ruleswise) pony up!!
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
H.B.M.C. wrote:
All of them bar Jain Zarr still look amazing. Saw a great paintjob on Asurman the other day. Still an amazing model that's stoof the test of time.
The Jetbike? No, there's a Jetbike that was around before the current one. The current one is still 2nd Ed era, but it's no original. The Phoenix Lords are older.
There was a metal jetbike originally, released a year prior to the old metal Harlequin one.
Jain Zarr, when released, was the most dynamic mini in GW's entire range. The leaping pose, raised weapons and flowing hair was utterly unlike anything attempted before. You can tell from the utterly static poses of the other PLs that this was still the time of HQs coming in two poses, the starfish and the pointy finger.
But all the PLs and a large number of other kits need an update. Plastics for all aspects would be an excellent start.
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Post by: Nevelon
Metal jetbike, a pair of Jain Zarrs (one converted to a chaos lord) and a guardian for scale.
As much hate as Jain gets for the HUGE 80's hair, I like the mini.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Fuegan could be so much more awesome. There is just something about a squad of Melta users that screams "WE ARE AWESOME!!" I just wish Fire Dragons were HEavy support. If they were, I just might buy some Eldar so I could have two Fire dragon squads and two Scorpion Squads..........cool out ranks effectiveness in this scenario
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Post by: boyd
Brother SRM wrote: mjl7atlas wrote:Is there any chance the rumoured Apoc update release large plastic kits would actually be the fabled plastic Warhound? What would the counter part be as well? Tyranid Bio-Titan? I really don't see how or why they haven't cashed in on that pile of cash.
I think the plastic Warhound is just six years of wishlisting piled on top of itself.
It should be released right after the rumored plastic thunder hawk gunship from 1999.
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Post by: Melissia
PredaKhaine wrote:Fuegan = best phoenix lord/joint worst sculpt (ties with Bahraroth) Nearly 2D, the pair of em.
Please, both of them are better than the Sister Dialogous.
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Post by: pretre
 Melissia wrote:PredaKhaine wrote:Fuegan = best phoenix lord/joint worst sculpt (ties with Bahraroth)
Nearly 2D, the pair of em.
Please, both of them are better than the Sister Dialogous.
I wasn't aware that Sister Dialogous was the name of a Phoenix Lord model.
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Post by: Melissia
She isn't. But she is by far a worse sculpt.
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Post by: Worms4u
Afternoon folks!
I was wondering if anyone had heard any news on a new Blood Angels codex? Now, believe me when I say I understand that other codexes need updates more than BA.. I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything, or had speculation based on the release schedule.
Thanks!
Worms
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Post by: Earth Dragon
*Prays for Worms4u safety in case the wrong people see that comment*
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Post by: pretre
Worms4u wrote:I was wondering if anyone had heard any news on a new Blood Angels codex?
Not even on the scope.
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Post by: pizzaguardian
Take this with some salt;
pizzaguardian wrote:
I heard that in the order lists from gw there is a codex: space marines (a new one i was told). This might be for the end of May release. I was not told anything else just that there was a cadex: space marines.
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Post by: Brother SRM
 pizzaguardian wrote:Take this with some salt;
pizzaguardian wrote:
I heard that in the order lists from gw there is a codex: space marines (a new one i was told). This might be for the end of May release. I was not told anything else just that there was a cadex: space marines.
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There's no such thing as an "end of May" release. Things launch at the beginning of the month.
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Post by: Iamjack42
Brother SRM wrote: pizzaguardian wrote:Take this with some salt;
pizzaguardian wrote:
I heard that in the order lists from gw there is a codex: space marines (a new one i was told). This might be for the end of May release. I was not told anything else just that there was a cadex: space marines.
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There's no such thing as an "end of May" release. Things launch at the beginning of the month.
They go on advance order at the end of the month though. GW will start selling the June Releases in May.
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Post by: pizzaguardian
That's what i meant. But the date was not part of the rumour, it is only my guess.I only was told about the new codex
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Post by: Crimson
It would make some sense to have SM go before Eldar (and I selfishly wish this to be the case.) Two xenos codices right after each other might not be that great of a move from the marketing perspective. They might want to alternate so that marine releases are spread evenly. On the other hand CSM and DA came right after each other, didn't they? But that's probably because they're the armies from the starter set.
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Post by: CaptKaruthors
Even if the Eldar get new jetbikes...I'll probably stick to the current ones. I have so many of them that it would be dumb to mix and match. We'll see. As for the phoenix lords...a redux on those would be cool. If they all have the dynamism of say the new Lelith model..then I'm all for it. If the new sculpts end up like the Gary Morley aspect sculpts...then no way.
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Post by: pretre
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-black-templar-question-codex-or-not.html
Faeit212 wrote:No book is being discontinued. All are getting 6th Ed updates. Hint hint. Nudge nudge.
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Post by: UltraPrime
pretre wrote:http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-black-templar-question-codex-or-not.html
Faeit212 wrote:No book is being discontinued. All are getting 6th Ed updates. Hint hint. Nudge nudge.
Haha. Guess he hasn't got any stupid rumours, so has moved onto the blinding obvious...
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Post by: Ralis
pretre wrote:http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-black-templar-question-codex-or-not.html
Faeit212 wrote:No book is being discontinued. All are getting 6th Ed updates. Hint hint. Nudge nudge.
This sounds like good news to me.
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Post by: TheDraconicLord
Ralis wrote: pretre wrote:http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-black-templar-question-codex-or-not.html
Faeit212 wrote:No book is being discontinued. All are getting 6th Ed updates. Hint hint. Nudge nudge.
This sounds like good news to me.
PRAISE DA LORD (-Emperor)!! I may not have a BT or sisters army, but I would be sad if these 2 armies that are unique would just be bundled together with some other army. Variety is the spice of life
P.S: I can't wait for the day when the rumors are something like NEW ADEPTUS SORORITAS PLASTIC MINIS or NEW CODEX NEXT MONTH... I really want an adeptus sororitas army, but the pewter ones are way too much of a wallet rape.
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Post by: pretre
 TheDraconicLord wrote:P.S: I can't wait for the day when the rumors are something like NEW ADEPTUS SORORITAS PLASTIC MINIS or NEW CODEX NEXT MONTH... I really want an adeptus sororitas army, but the pewter ones are way too much of a wallet rape.
We're about due for that one again. It's a yearly thing and I use it to remind me to change my smoke detector batteries.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Worms4u wrote:I was wondering if anyone had heard any news on a new Blood Angels codex?
7th April 2018 plus minus 5 years
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Post by: UltraPrime
If this turns out to be correct, I'll give you a cookie.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Does he still get a cookie if it is a White Dwarf supplimental release?
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Post by: Magc8Ball
He would get a supplemental cookie...
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Post by: Malika2
I doubt we'll get new Phoenix Lords. Remember all those rumours about the Chaos codex? We were going to get a totally new Abaddon and Khârn, and we still have the 2nd edition era models (which for some reason are still superior to a lot of the stuff being put out today...).
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Post by: Earth Dragon
If it ain't broke, don't fix it huh Malika2. Special characters are not major money makers(in general, there are obvious exceptions), and it's part of the reason they have such a high CPM (cost per model) against over models you can have 50 of in army made of the same material.
They only stand to waste money and development if they can't produce a superior model, and judging by the wide variety of opinions on which ones look good and don't (Still shocked Karandras was mentioned, though I can respect the opinion), it seems like risky business to update the models.
Maybe start a multi-answer poll that asks "Which Phoenix Lord Models do you feel look poor" and avoid asking "Which do you feel need updates" or anything like that, to actually produce some data on which ones MIGHT need updating.
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Post by: jonolikespie
I think it is less about 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' and more about GW thinking 'hey, people already own these models, they won't buy more just because we redo the kit, lets make some huge monster/vehicle/flyer in a dual kit instead'.
With the exception of the broadsides (which were completely redesigned) and raptors (were the crappy old metal ones, and their kit became a dual one) they have not been redoing anything lately. There were rumours of Abbadon and Karn for chaos marines, then rumours about greater daemons for the daemons release, and in both cases we got giant dual kits that seemed completely out of place instead.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Back to topic:
Anonymous Source over at Faeit 212 wrote:just been informed we should be looking at WHFB high elves next month, followed by Eldar the month after and Apoc the month after that.
Stickmmonkey over at faeit212 wrote:May: High Elves
June: Eldar
July: Apocalypse
August: Lizardmen
September: Blood Bowl
October: Space Marines
November: Dwarves?
December: Hobbit
January: Tyranids
Keep in mind that Stickmonkey's release lists are much guess work ATM.
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Post by: The Shadow
Balls. High Elves and Eldar in consecutive months? My wallet is going to HURT. At least I have some time to wait and recover before Nids get updated...
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Post by: creeping-deth87
Tyranids for January 2014? I'm sorry, but the fact that their current codex would only be 4 years old at that time absolutely makes my blood boil. Templars and arguably Orks are far more deserving of updates in the time frame we're talking about.
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Post by: ClockworkZion
 creeping-deth87 wrote:Tyranids for January 2014? I'm sorry, but the fact that their current codex would only be 4 years old at that time absolutely makes my blood boil. Templars and arguably Orks are far more deserving of updates in the time frame we're talking about.
Tyranids have been updated every edition since their release.
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Post by: creeping-deth87
Yeah I get that, but that doesn't mean they should be updated ahead of older codices that need the update more.
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Post by: Absolutionis
creeping-deth87 wrote:Tyranids for January 2014? I'm sorry, but the fact that their current codex would only be 4 years old at that time absolutely makes my blood boil. Templars and arguably Orks are far more deserving of updates in the time frame we're talking about.
Space Marines get 1-2 updates per year. Us Xenos players have had to hold tight, Black Marine players can too. If Black Marine players are too impatient, they always have the option to buy the Marine-color-of-the-month Green Marine units and run their old models with the new Green Marines codex. Tyranid players can't use Gaunts as Marine-color-of-the-month without everyone in a mile radius raising an eyebrow.
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Post by: creeping-deth87
Y'know, not every marine player hops onto the next marine codex. I actually don't play marines at all but I fell in love with Templars 2 years ago and I've held off buying them until they get updated, so you can (maybe) understand my consternation.
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Post by: FarseerAndyMan
Isnt there enough creepy guys in our hobby to begin with?
Just drop the sisters as an army altogether.
Incorporate them into the Ordo Toileticus...
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Post by: ClockworkZion
FarseerAndyMan wrote:Isnt there enough creepy guys in our hobby to begin with?
Just drop the sisters as an army altogether.
Incorporate them into the Ordo Toileticus...
Creepy guys will always be creepy. Getting rid of the Sisters won't fix that.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Earth Dragon wrote:If it ain't broke, don't fix it huh Malika2. Special characters are not major money makers(in general, there are obvious exceptions), and it's part of the reason they have such a high CPM (cost per model) against over models you can have 50 of in army made of the same material.
They only stand to waste money and development if they can't produce a superior model, and judging by the wide variety of opinions on which ones look good and don't (Still shocked Karandras was mentioned, though I can respect the opinion), it seems like risky business to update the models.
Maybe start a multi-answer poll that asks "Which Phoenix Lord Models do you feel look poor" and avoid asking "Which do you feel need updates" or anything like that, to actually produce some data on which ones MIGHT need updating.
The heads are pretty much the weakest point, it was GW's big hat period where all the bosses got big hats so many of them are just short of being bobble heads.
GW could redo many of the heads since they're seperate. They did that with the greater daemons a few years back.
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Post by: AlmightyWalrus
 Absolutionis wrote: creeping-deth87 wrote:Tyranids for January 2014? I'm sorry, but the fact that their current codex would only be 4 years old at that time absolutely makes my blood boil. Templars and arguably Orks are far more deserving of updates in the time frame we're talking about.
Space Marines get 1-2 updates per year. Us Xenos players have had to hold tight, Black Marine players can too. If Black Marine players are too impatient, they always have the option to buy the Marine-color-of-the-month Green Marine units and run their old models with the new Green Marines codex. Tyranid players can't use Gaunts as Marine-color-of-the-month without everyone in a mile radius raising an eyebrow.
It's still going to cost a lot to swap to another Marine army unless you want to have an army that's going to be rubbish, and a lot of your stuff is probably not going to see much play. The very issue we're complaining over is that we ARE holding tight, more so than Eldar or (especially) Orks. Pretending that you can seamlessly swap from one Marine Codex to another isn't going to change the fact that you can't. Especially now that Razor-spam is more or less dead.
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Post by: Just Dave
Kroothawk wrote:Back to topic:
Anonymous Source over at Faeit 212 wrote:just been informed we should be looking at WHFB high elves next month, followed by Eldar the month after and Apoc the month after that.
Stickmmonkey over at faeit212 wrote:May: High Elves
June: Eldar
July: Apocalypse
August: Lizardmen
September: Blood Bowl
October: Space Marines
November: Dwarves?
December: Hobbit
January: Tyranids
Keep in mind that Stickmonkey's release lists are much guess work ATM.
Tbh, I feel like I could've come up with these rumours or release schedule if I wanted to: mainly from just copying off Hastings...
Which suggests that Stickmonkey is doing just that, or actually has a seemingly reliable source.
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Post by: rigeld2
creeping-deth87 wrote:Yeah I get that, but that doesn't mean they should be updated ahead of older codices that need the update more.
So... Every edition when this happens you get "consternated"?
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Post by: creeping-deth87
rigeld2 wrote: creeping-deth87 wrote:Yeah I get that, but that doesn't mean they should be updated ahead of older codices that need the update more.
So... Every edition when this happens you get "consternated"?
...are you seriously asking me if I'm bothered by the fact that armies who need the update more are left to linger when newer books are updated first? Um... yeah, yeah I am. Most people are...
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Post by: rigeld2
creeping-deth87 wrote:rigeld2 wrote: creeping-deth87 wrote:Yeah I get that, but that doesn't mean they should be updated ahead of older codices that need the update more.
So... Every edition when this happens you get "consternated"?
...are you seriously asking me if I'm bothered by the fact that armies who need the update more are left to linger when newer books are updated first? Um... yeah, yeah I am. Most people are...
My point is that this is not a new thing. It seemed like you were surprised that Nids would get an update.
News flash - C: SM will get updated relatively soon also.
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Post by: creeping-deth87
The fact that it's not a new thing doesn't mean I can't express my dissatisfaction with the way armies are renewed, especially if it means, like in my case, the delay of an army update that I've been wanting to start for the last 2 years like I mentioned in an earlier post.
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Post by: Riddick40k
creeping-deth87 wrote:The fact that it's not a new thing doesn't mean I can't express my dissatisfaction with the way armies are renewed, especially if it means, like in my case, the delay of an army update that I've been wanting to start for the last 2 years like I mentioned in an earlier post.
You make a very good point i will give you that but there are also rumors that the BT's may end up molded with the C: SM book which in this case would mean your arguing about them being updated would be counter intuative... Sorry if that upsets you
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Post by: Sidstyler
FarseerAndyMan wrote:Isnt there enough creepy guys in our hobby to begin with?
Just drop the sisters as an army altogether.
Incorporate them into the Ordo Toileticus...
Why the hell would playing Sisters make one "creepy"? I don't see why it would be any worse than being a miniature wargamer to begin with.
The Repentia are fething stupid, but other than that Sisters aren't that bad and would be even better with an update. I won't accept this bs that they're for "creepy" guys unless they get a lot less clothing and much bigger tits with said update.
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Post by: thenoobbomb
 Sidstyler wrote:FarseerAndyMan wrote:Isnt there enough creepy guys in our hobby to begin with?
Just drop the sisters as an army altogether.
Incorporate them into the Ordo Toileticus...
I won't accept this bs that they're for "creepy" guys unless they get a lot less clothing and much bigger tits with said update.
I'd buy that.
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Post by: Goat
 thenoobbomb wrote: Sidstyler wrote:FarseerAndyMan wrote:Isnt there enough creepy guys in our hobby to begin with?
Just drop the sisters as an army altogether.
Incorporate them into the Ordo Toileticus...
I won't accept this bs that they're for "creepy" guys unless they get a lot less clothing and much bigger tits with said update.
I'd buy that.
Looks like I'd be a new Sisters player. *rubs hands together creepily*
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Post by: Leth
Yeaaa.......*raises hand for club membership"
Interesting to see eldar in june, anyone have an idea why space marines would be in october? Seems like a counter productive time for a major release
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Post by: Insurgency Walker
End third fiscal quarter with a bang?
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Post by: unmercifulconker
Meh, I have trouble believing much of stickeymonkey.
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Post by: battlematt
The only sisters player is my area is a "Furrie". Just say'in.
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Post by: Shandara
Trying to cover all the bases is he?
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Post by: MajorStoffer
The only sisters player locally is extremely socially awkward with a speech impediment and is partial to fondling himself.
Just saying.
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Post by: Mr Morden
Wow - anyone know a non Sisters gamer who is a bit odd
Anyone?
Just saying...........
Or should it be does anyone NOT know a non sisters gamer who is a bit odd
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Post by: Brother SRM
I don't think this thread needs people talking about how horrible they/their local playerbase are. Horrible people are in every hobby, at every level, and we should pretty much all know that.
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Post by: pizzaguardian
Everytime i refresh this page i hope there would be new rumours about eldar.
I check two times per hour.
I get disappointed a lot... 
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Post by: tarnish
pizzaguardian wrote:Everytime i refresh this page i hope there would be new rumours about eldar.
I check two times per hour.
I get disappointed a lot...
All good things come to those who wait.
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Post by: Smitty
 TechmarineNic wrote:I reckon that the SoB will be replaced by the new army in 2014.As for BT I don't know but I reckon they will either get a big update or be rolled into SM codex like dirt, it's sad really...
If the rumor I've heard is correct, they kind of will. I heard somewhere that the Inquisition is coming in 2014, and will include sisters among other things.
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Post by: pretre
 Smitty wrote: TechmarineNic wrote:I reckon that the SoB will be replaced by the new army in 2014.As for BT I don't know but I reckon they will either get a big update or be rolled into SM codex like dirt, it's sad really...
If the rumor I've heard is correct, they kind of will. I heard somewhere that the Inquisition is coming in 2014, and will include sisters among other things.
Yeah, but that was from Natfka and is about as reliable as the lottery.
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Post by: Kingsley
Smitty wrote: TechmarineNic wrote:I reckon that the SoB will be replaced by the new army in 2014.As for BT I don't know but I reckon they will either get a big update or be rolled into SM codex like dirt, it's sad really...
If the rumor I've heard is correct, they kind of will. I heard somewhere that the Inquisition is coming in 2014, and will include sisters among other things.
The "combined Inquisition codex" rumor has been around since 4th edition and has been wishlisting every time. Color me very suspicious.
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Post by: keltikhoa
Sidstyler wrote: unless they get a lot less clothing and much bigger tits with said update.
You had me at less clothing and bigger tits.
But I do not see that happening. Look at the Daemonette for example. the old model had naked boobs and was "sexy" ish. Now we have half deformed hermaphrodites.
If SoB do get less clothing and bigger tits... im thinking the model will look something like a female ogryn in a sun dress
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Post by: DaKKaLAnce
The only I like SOB, is because I liked the extremely zealotry..... And after playing dawn of war soulstorm.... DE and SOB are my 2 favorites .
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Post by: gorgon
 Kingsley wrote: Smitty wrote: TechmarineNic wrote:I reckon that the SoB will be replaced by the new army in 2014.As for BT I don't know but I reckon they will either get a big update or be rolled into SM codex like dirt, it's sad really...
If the rumor I've heard is correct, they kind of will. I heard somewhere that the Inquisition is coming in 2014, and will include sisters among other things.
The "combined Inquisition codex" rumor has been around since 4th edition and has been wishlisting every time. Color me very suspicious.
At this point, you have to wonder what it'd solve for OTHER than giving Sisters a home. GKs are popular and have been well fleshed out as their own army. Allies rules have given other Imperial armies access to the =I= elements in that codex, so there's no need for a central =I= repository. Meanwhile, GW's shown no interest in ever giving the Xenos/Deathwatch element the GK treatment, and I don't sense that it's something the customers are demanding.
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Post by: boyd
I thought their Q3 FY13 was pretty good. I think the Hobbit may have hurt them slightly but with wave after wave of their core products should make up for it. They had chaos and dark angels as their big releases. Their FY14 is looking pretty good so far if the rumors of Eldar are true and released at the end of Q1 or early Q2. Maybe they will update ask of their army books before the next edition change.
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Post by: Ralis
boyd wrote:
I thought their Q3 FY13 was pretty good. I think the Hobbit may have hurt them slightly but with wave after wave of their core products should make up for it. They had chaos and dark angels as their big releases. Their FY14 is looking pretty good so far if the rumors of Eldar are true and released at the end of Q1 or early Q2. Maybe they will update ask of their army books before the next edition change.
This is one of the things we we've heard multiple times. That GW is trying to update everything with 6th. I think there is at least some degree of truth to this based on the releases we've seen so far.
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Post by: Red Viper
The only sister player I know SEEMS pretty normal, but now I'm wondering what's going on inside that head...
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Post by: FarseerAndyMan
Here is my experience with one of the two sisters players in the area...Old boy shows up to our FLGS on sunday and we tell him were playing the Badab Campaign..power armor versus power armor basicly. He shows up the next week with sisters and THE FORTRESS OF REDEMPTION...come on bro...the ONLY model banned in 40k tournament play and this guy shows up with it to his FLGS on his first chance to play with a new group...nice first impression.
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Post by: Experiment 626
 Leth wrote:Yeaaa.......*raises hand for club membership"
Interesting to see eldar in june, anyone have an idea why space marines would be in october? Seems like a counter productive time for a major release
Because Marines in October is a smart move in truth...
Little Timmy gets the new codex in October. But his parents aren't likely to buy him much else right off the bat because xmas is just around the corner. So Little Timmy spends 2 whole months excitedly yammering away to his parents about how awesome Mehreens are an all their cool toys and leaves half a dozen lists 'to Santa' littered about his house.
This is what GW did for the 5th ed Vanilla codex, and from November on, our store shelves were pretty damn empty of marines. I lost count of how many Thunderfire Cannons & Redeemers we sold that Xmas season.
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Post by: JWMarines
It would be nice to see sisters fully developed with legit vs throw-away army selections.
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Post by: Magc8Ball
FarseerAndyMan wrote:He shows up the next week with sisters and THE FORTRESS OF REDEMPTION...come on bro...the ONLY model banned in 40k tournament play...
Banned by what authority? I didn't think the DCI had extended their grasp to 40K events, and I've not seen any word from GW that the Fortress isn't usable in tournaments.
On topic: I really hope that the Marines ARE getting updated in October... since that would put to rest the rumors earlier in the thread about Eldar being bumped from June in favor of the Marines. My Wave Serpents desperately need a reduction in cost. :(
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Post by: Absolutionis
Every Eldar player currently has a ton of Wave Serpents. Expect it to get nerfed in abilities and upped in cost (both money and points) in favor of the new whatever big-base model they produce.
Carnifex'd
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Post by: pretre
Absolutionis wrote:Every Eldar player currently has a ton of Wave Serpents. Expect it to get nerfed in abilities and upped in cost (both money and points) in favor of the new whatever big-base model they produce.
Carnifex'd
That only works when the unit is still good. Most eldar players have been ditching their WS because they are so bad right now.
If the new Eldar codex was coming out at the end of 4th or middle of 5th, I would agree with you.
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Post by: pizzaguardian
How are they going the increase the wave serpents cost ?
I mean the thing starts with 100 points stock. What are they going to make it Armor 11 and 150 points
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Post by: creeping-deth87
Honestly I wouldnt hold your breath for a points reduction on the Wave Serpent if the Tau release is any indication. GW seems to have their hearts set on overpriced xenos transports. How the Devilfish is worth 80 points is completely beyond me.
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Post by: Magc8Ball
pizzaguardian wrote:How are they going the increase the wave serpents cost ?
I mean the thing starts with 100 points stock. What are they going to make it Armor 11 and 150 points
QUIET!! They might hear you!!
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Post by: ian1920
FarseerAndyMan wrote:Isnt there enough creepy guys in our hobby to begin with?
Just drop the sisters as an army altogether.
Incorporate them into the Ordo Toileticus...
Drop sisters? Does anyone here want to live in a world where your only imperial options are Guard or Marines?
Also, just because I am legally married in the state of New Hampshire to my St. Celestine model and trying to adopt a baby for us doesn't mean I'm creepy.
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Post by: rigeld2
... maybe a little creepy. Not too much.
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Post by: DAaddict
Sidstyler wrote:Maybe Sisters aren't getting updated just because GW couldn't think of any big monsters or flyers to give them that just wouldn't look silly? I mean too silly even for them.
I like Sisters, they're probably my favorite Imperial army and I'd love to see them get an update. I recall GW saying at one time they wouldn't be Squatting any more armies so I'd like to know what the feth they're doing with them exactly, because it's starting to look like they're going down that route.
Holy Mammaries of Antioch - Two large oval bases.... Build it on a pivot so that you can advance 1 about 10". Auto attack of S6 mammaries...
Aura of the boobs - Make a Ld test or stand in awe of them. Test required to move, shoot or charge if within 12" of them.
Killer Cleavage - Nova Psychic attack - 12" 3d6 Ld test or all male models within range forget to breathe. No armor save allowed.
Vehicles 3d6 vs AV or suffer a glance...
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Post by: G. Whitenbeard
 ian1920 wrote:
Also, just because I am legally married in the state of New Hampshire to my St. Celestine model and trying to adopt a baby for us doesn't mean I'm creepy.
Live Free or Die!
I hope you enjoyed our highway-side liquor stores during your seatbelt-free drive through here.
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Post by: Alpharius
And with that, I think this thread is done for now.
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