It's terrible!* It needs more Jack Daw!


* - It's not terrible, I've always like the art for Malifaux, but it does need more Jack Daw

Using a Desperate Mercs a weird choice! For me there are so many more interesting characters that could take the cover spot! Oh well, it's what's on the inside that counts!

 Emperors_Champion wrote:
Using a Desperate Mercs a weird choice! For me there are so many more interesting characters that could take the cover spot! Oh well, it's what's on the inside that counts!

It fits the theme of Malifaux, it's a relatable human, he has a sword and gun, and he's pretty much faction-neutral.

Seems like a good choice.

It's a great cover. The only reason that it feels weird is that for so long, Jack Daw felt like the unofficial mascot for Malifaux.

 Absolutionis wrote:

 Emperors_Champion wrote:
Using a Desperate Mercs a weird choice! For me there are so many more interesting characters that could take the cover spot! Oh well, it's what's on the inside that counts!

It fits the theme of Malifaux, it's a relatable human, he has a sword and gun, and he's pretty much faction-neutral.

Seems like a good choice.

Good point!

Suppose it's just my strange fasination with all things undead!

This year's new Miss is:

Rumored to be named "Miss Step". Likely an Arcanist model similar to the Steamborg Executioner.

I had guessed Miss stiched

The Desperate Merc art was possibly my favorite in the entire book, so definitely not disappointed, though also a little surprised since he's a little disposable guy instead of a character.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
The Desperate Merc art was possibly my favorite in the entire book, so definitely not disappointed, though also a little surprised since he's a little disposable guy instead of a character.

My Lilith crew currently uses him for blood tokens

I don't know what I'm going to do with him in 2nd edition, but in last edition, McM would rile him with a cut and a missing organ, the nurse would pump him full of go juice, he'd run around for 10 seconds shooting everything, then McMourning would jump him and grab all of his juicy bits to make a chimera or whatever.

Sonnia used to turn them into Witchling Stalkers. Not quite a Nephlim quality grow list, but it was fun for a time while learning the game.

 Forar wrote:
Sonnia used to turn them into Witchling Stalkers. Not quite a Nephlim quality grow list, but it was fun for a time while learning the game.

I've only gotten to play the grow list once or twice, as until last weekend I had to borrow the pieces Took my last few henchman points and got me Lillith's box and a Black Blood Shaman.


On a side note: Forar, have you gotten a chance to play University of Transmortis?

 Alfndrate wrote:
On a side note: Forar, have you gotten a chance to play University of Transmortis?

Nope.

I was initially intrigued, but I don't play Ressers, so $35+ for 4 models and a booklet isn't a big draw, especially since apparently the box no longer contains 1.5 cards, so any interest at all is rather contingent on my crew finally figuring out if they want to give 2.0 a shot, stick with 1.5 or abandon the game entirely.

Given that June and July were bad for scheduling and August will be a cluster-shenanigans until Fan Expo is over, we might not resolve that little outstanding matter until September anyway, and even if it's not an entirely negative resolution, we're all pretty gung ho about the Robotech miniatures game that might (MIGHT) come out as early as October/November.

So, basically the same holding pattern I've been in for ages now.

Man, if I didn't hate edition changes before, I do now.

Not necessarily anything to do with the editions themselves, but what they do to my gaming crew.

They get crazy.

I'm glad I didn't have to witness their old Warhammer days. I'm told it... wasn't pretty.

 Forar wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
On a side note: Forar, have you gotten a chance to play University of Transmortis?

Nope.

I was initially intrigued, but I don't play Ressers, so $35+ for 4 models and a booklet isn't a big draw, especially since apparently the box no longer contains 1.5 cards, so any interest at all is rather contingent on my crew finally figuring out if they want to give 2.0 a shot, stick with 1.5 or abandon the game entirely.

I had been contemplating this as well because I assumed it was coming out before 2nd ed and might just have "generic" Malifaux rules (Patent pending) with basic cards that could work for either ruleset. Though that was before I had seen the changes coming down the pipeline. I was talking about this for a bit with cincydooley, and I think it might be one of, if not the best, way to introduce someone to M2E. With that being said, I'm not too excited to drop 40 bucks on a product I won't be able to use with my current ressers because the Iron Zombies are an edition ahead :-\.

Not necessarily anything to do with the editions themselves, but what they do to my gaming crew.

They get crazy.

I'm glad I didn't have to witness their old Warhammer days. I'm told it... wasn't pretty.

Yeah, I fething hate edition changes, I've only been through the DnD edition changes since 2000, 40k 5th to 6th, and WHFB 7th to 8th, and GW can't deviate too much from their previous editions in the core mechanics, but everything else has been staggering when compared to the previous edition.

What's funny is that I've seen some truly virulent bile spewed between people advocating 3E and 4E D&D, but my old high school gaming crew picked up 3E, enjoyed it, later picked up 4E, enjoyed it, that was it. Sure, I was aware of the 'controversy' in the background through some forum reading, but it was never a big deal.

So when the change was announced and two of my new crew's players effectively donned "The End Is Nigh" signs and began crossing themselves and spitting (figuratively) whenever the topic came up, I was a bit surprised, to put it mildly.

To be really honest, it makes me wary of buying too hard into said Robotech game. I'd rather not toss a big pile of money after something else only to have them decide that when the 2nd edition rolls around they need to bail on it too.

not sure if anyone noticed in the community but gamers are change averse. They want to say "oh i prefer first edition better" as a badge of honor that they were around back when "things were better".

It is not just malifaux look at the 40k/WHFB or any game that goes into a new edition people will hate it without even trying it. Mainly because they do not want to change or learn something new. People will complain they have to buy a new rulebook maybe some cards it goes through the same routine every single time for every single game.

As for myself i played malifaux exclusively for the last couple of years, i all but quit on anything GW related. I still have some old models (who doesn't love orks from the 80/90s era?!) but for the most part stopped my gw addiction.

But even after playing for malifaux so long it became too routine and i haven't picked up the game since last gencon. There were many other factors that lead to this mainly fantasy flights Netrunner and Starwars, video games, board games and so forth.

I see the new edition of any game not just malifaux as a way to re examine what is out there. Maybe some units got a power boost if not on their respective stat cards possibly through new rule interactions and so forth. So come gencon (about 2 weeks from now) I will be picking up the new rulebook because im curious to see the new changes. I am not re buying my old masters or the new kits (not a fan of plastic) but ill just play with what i have and take it from there.

Just saw this on their Facebook page. Looks pretty badass.

So, Malifaux has kroothounds now?

You don't actually think small beasts with big jaws are original to kroot do you?

 Breotan wrote:
So, Malifaux has kroothounds now?

I thought nids

Edit: For anyone interested, that's the nightmare version, which means that Tara will have a regular release in case you don't like what you see. There are also previews of her rules in the latest Wyrd Chronicles (Issue 7)

So, who is Tara? I'm guessing from the yellow stripe she is for Outcasts.

 bbb wrote:
So, who is Tara? I'm guessing from the yellow stripe she is for Outcasts.

Check out the stories from the Dead of Winter campaign that took place over the this past Winter, it explains who the new Henchmen are (sorta). Tara is a Henchmen it seems for ressers and outcasts (half that yellow is also green ), she is the Herald of Obliteration. I'm assuming people don't want to get hit by her giant sword and weird claw thing.

It appears that Tara is a new Outcast/Resurrectionist master for M2E. You can find her rules and all the other M2E cards for the set in this free PDF: http://www.malifaux.com/Downloads/Wyrd_Chronicles_Volume_7.pdf

Apparently the "Nightmare" version of the box will only be available during Gen Con.

 lordofthegophers wrote:
It appears that Tara is a new Outcast/Resurrectionist master for M2E. You can find her rules and all the other M2E cards for the set in this free PDF: http://www.malifaux.com/Downloads/Wyrd_Chronicles_Volume_7.pdf

Apparently the "Nightmare" version of the box will only be available during Gen Con.

I like how you said basically what I said 3 or 4 posts above yours I just didn't link to the magazine because I cba to grab it , but you do have the clarification of her being a master while I thought she was a henchman.

 Alfndrate wrote:

 lordofthegophers wrote:
It appears that Tara is a new Outcast/Resurrectionist master for M2E. You can find her rules and all the other M2E cards for the set in this free PDF: http://www.malifaux.com/Downloads/Wyrd_Chronicles_Volume_7.pdf

Apparently the "Nightmare" version of the box will only be available during Gen Con.

I like how you said basically what I said 3 or 4 posts above yours I just didn't link to the magazine because I cba to grab it , but you do have the clarification of her being a master while I thought she was a henchman.

Didn't see it ^_^ sorry, I wasn't trying to steal your thunder, I promise

 lordofthegophers wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:

 lordofthegophers wrote:
It appears that Tara is a new Outcast/Resurrectionist master for M2E. You can find her rules and all the other M2E cards for the set in this free PDF: http://www.malifaux.com/Downloads/Wyrd_Chronicles_Volume_7.pdf

Apparently the "Nightmare" version of the box will only be available during Gen Con.

I like how you said basically what I said 3 or 4 posts above yours I just didn't link to the magazine because I cba to grab it , but you do have the clarification of her being a master while I thought she was a henchman.

Didn't see it ^_^ sorry, I wasn't trying to steal your thunder, I promise

Psh, it's no biggie, you clarified what I posed and added the link I was referring to.

I need to find someone who is going to GenCon to pick one of those up for me!

I might have to pick one of these up when I get there.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I need to find someone who is going to GenCon to pick one of those up for me!

All models available at GenCon are usually available through Wyrd's Webstore. I don't remember if the Nightmare models are available through the store. I believe they are. PM Lalochezia, he can confirm with certainty.

Usually all the Gen Con models are available from the website only during the dates of Gen Con. I think they extended it one year due to crazy site slowness caused by the heavy traffic from people attempting to get the Nightmare editions..

 bbb wrote:
Usually all the Gen Con models are available from the website only during the dates of Gen Con. I think they extended it one year due to crazy site slowness caused by the heavy traffic from people attempting to get the Nightmare editions..

Yeah I know that everything that I could buy at GenCon was available on the webstore, but I didn't know about the Nightmare trees...

The only problem one has to deal with is the slowness of the Wyrd shipping issues that always plague them post GenCon.

I live in the UK so I don't have much choice, I'll have to order online during Gen Con.

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
So, Malifaux has kroothounds now?

I thought nids

Edit: For anyone interested, that's the nightmare version, which means that Tara will have a regular release in case you don't like what you see. There are also previews of her rules in the latest Wyrd Chronicles (Issue 7)

The "nightmare" version kind of just seems an excuse to jack up the price. There's nothing "nightmare"-ish about it. Its the basic artwork in the book. This is the standard version, but just has the "nightmare" tag slapped on it. At some point down the line they'll do another one, but if you dont want to proxie her for a year or two, you need to shell out extra now. Meh.

The models look good though I would never have pegged Tara as female from the art alone.

Yeah, I'm a little confused about why this is a Nightmare Edition. They have usually been big versions of or unique takes on pre-existing stuff. This seems like a pretty standard crew. It looks nice, but not particularly Nightmare Edition quality.

I expect the Nothing Beast is probably way bigger than the normal version will be, but, yeah, it's not that impressive, esp. without seeing a regular version.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
I expect the Nothing Beast is probably way bigger than the normal version will be, but, yeah, it's not that impressive, esp. without seeing a regular version.

Yeah, I would rather see the regular version before I see NIGHTMARE version. Though let us not forget last year's nightmare model... those fething trees!

Are you often having nightmares about trees, Alf? Care to share?

I was under the impression that tooling for plastic models was costly. Why make those kits limited? It seems like a poor return on investment.

And before anyone asks, no, I don't get why Dreamforge's exclusive models were so short lived either, especially considering the quality.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Are you often having nightmares about trees, Alf? Care to share?

I was under the impression that tooling for plastic models was costly. Why make those kits limited? It seems like a poor return on investment.

And before anyone asks, no, I don't get why Dreamforge's exclusive models were so short lived either, especially considering the quality.

I thought the Nightmare Hanging Trees were a cool alternative to the "Hanged" models that currently exist for the Ressers, but I didn't think they were 80 dollars cool. I got a nightmare Teddy for 50 bucks, Nightmare Chompy is like 100 dollars and is worth it for it's collectability and size. Dead Justice is also cool and worth w/e price she sells for (not on eBay ). But 80 bucks for plastic trees made go, "what?!" It was a bit of a running joke amongst my friends at GenCon. I bought over 300 dollars worth of stuff from Wyrd alone last year and I didn't think, "maybe I should grab the nightmare trees" once. I believe I'm getting it for free with my Through the Breach Pledge, but if I'm not no worries.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Are you often having nightmares about trees, Alf? Care to share?

I was under the impression that tooling for plastic models was costly. Why make those kits limited? It seems like a poor return on investment.

And before anyone asks, no, I don't get why Dreamforge's exclusive models were so short lived either, especially considering the quality.

Well, they make 5 times as much on each nightmare box set as they do regular ones, since they cut out the take of middle man distributors/game stores. So there's that going for it.

Still seems stupid to do this as the nightmare edition. Just release it as the standard version, since its already done. Not like the xtra plastic for larger models really costs much more.The release schedule for M2 was planned pretty pooly if they are releasing the new characters over a year later, and concentrating on redoing existing models first. They said there wouldnt be a standard Tara until late 2014 at the earliest. Have they said when the brewmaster is coming out?

I wish they'd have just redone a plastic Nightmare Chompy....

I do wonder who the "Miss" this year will be.

I'm hoping it's a drag queen named "Miss Ogynist"

From Eric:

For those of you new to Wyrd, who haven't seen our previous nightmare editions, or those who have questions about our upcoming Nightmare Tara (available during Gen Con at the booth or online store), I figured I'd stick all the information in one place!

Here are the basics

Nightmare editions are our chance to do something big and fun and limited.
They never have new stat lines, but are rather alternate sculpts of a model that is, or will be, released through distribution normally.
They are usually outside what you'd expect to see in the normal line either in size (Big Teddy or Lord Chompy), or theme (Undead Justice, Miss models).
They allow us a chance to add something special to the line.
They usually are released during big conventions, like Gen Con, but will ALWAYS be available through our online store during those same dates.



This year, our nightmare edition is Tara and her crew. Here are the details. (I will continue to update this first post with all information about Tara as it's available.)

Cost: $80
Photo: Here
What you get: TWO full sprues of plastic, twice as much as a normal crew box. So yes, things are bigger and more detailed.
Other Details: Tara was originally a wave 2 model and new to Malifaux. However, since we thought she was perfect for a nightmare edition (due to the fun big nothing beast), she was promoted to a wave 1 model, and the nightmare sculpts (only) were made. Her normal sculpts are still in the production line as a wave 2 model, and as such will not be completed until late 2014 at the earliest.

http://www.wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?45839-What-is-a-Nightmare-edition

So Nightmare Tara contains twice the sprues a normal box set would have, which speaks to the size/options of the models.


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 cincydooley wrote:
I wish they'd have just redone a plastic Nightmare Chompy....

I do wonder who the "Miss" this year will be.

I'm hoping it's a drag queen named "Miss Ogynist"

Miss Step, Steamborg Executioner

http://www.wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?42030-Gen-Con-2013-Releases

cincydooley wrote:I wish they'd have just redone a plastic Nightmare Chompy....

I do wonder who the "Miss" this year will be.

I'm hoping it's a drag queen named "Miss Ogynist"

From the previous page:

 Absolutionis wrote:
This year's new Miss is:

Rumored to be named "Miss Step". Likely an Arcanist model similar to the Steamborg Executioner.

Miss Step

Lalochezia wrote:*snip*

As always, thanks Justin. Do you have pictures of a completed box? I wasn't planning on buying anything from your booth this year (due to cash flow) but if the models look decent enough, I could be convinced to part with my filth lucre

No, unfortunately, I do not. I will see them myself for the first time at Gen Con.

 Lalochezia wrote:
No, unfortunately, I do not. I will see them myself for the first time at Gen Con.

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

You're gonna make me fight against my low impulse control aren't you? I hate all of you plastic crack dealers

Oh cool. I could use a steamborg, for sure.

Is Tara able to be run as a regular Outcast crew? I don't play Rezzers and I'm really trying hard to not pick up any new games/factions at GenCon this year....

 cincydooley wrote:
Oh cool. I could use a steamborg, for sure.

Is Tara able to be run as a regular Outcast crew? I don't play Rezzers and I'm really trying hard to not pick up any new games/factions at GenCon this year....

Dual faction masters can be run as either or (look at the Book 4 masters). So if you run Tara as an Outcast, you will get models that can only be hired by outcasts and then generally the models they can normally hire. Like Lynch I believe can always hire models with Brilliance (I will double check as my book isn't on me).

FyI there is art of Miss Step in the email I just got from Wyrd.

I'm still. Bit skeptical about that Tara box being $80, but I'll definitely be getting the Lady J and Tina boxes. There my Miss Step ;-)

 cincydooley wrote:
FyI there is art of Miss Step in the email I just got from Wyrd.

I'm still. Bit skeptical about that Tara box being $80, but I'll definitely be getting the Lady J and Tina boxes. There my Miss Step ;-)

Yeah I guess that's my only concern... 80 bucks for a kit I might never play is the same price as to what I need to pick up the few troll items I missed over the past year for WM/H.

It's a tough decision if you play outcasts or ressers . Though if they did Pandora, Avatar of Woe (the old Pandy sculpt) in plastic I'd be sold and want it in a heartbeat (unless it was 80 bucks )

 cincydooley wrote:
Oh cool. I could use a steamborg, for sure.

Is Tara able to be run as a regular Outcast crew? I don't play Rezzers and I'm really trying hard to not pick up any new games/factions at GenCon this year....

Yep, she can be run as outcast no issue. The cthulhu and little dudes are actually outcast only, so you need tot ake her upgrade to use them in ressers. This also lets you hire death marshalls (which turn from living to dead). So break out your Dead Justice box.

Old Lynch could hire a lot of stuff, not just Brilliant models (like Stiched Together in 10 thunders). new Lynch just gets "Darkened" models (basically old Brilliant models). We at least yowled enough in Beta to change it from "Chronic".

This link has pictures of the Gen Con releases.

http://www.wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?42030-Gen-Con-2013-Releases

Releases available at the Wyrd booth and online at Wyrd's store during Gen Con (Aug 15-18).

Prices and public release dates will be added. Additional products added as information is released.

Board and Card Games
•Puppet Wars Unstitched
•EBO - The Crayon Manifesto (Expansion)
•EBO - Nerdfighteria Expansion
•Showdown: Icons - $45 (Sep) - includes 5 plastic decks
•The World Needs a Jetpack Unicorn - $24 (Nov)
•Kings of Artifice - $70 (Oct)

Through the Breach RPG
•Due to the open beta and efforts for M2E, we chose not to divide our attention and will not be pre-releasing Through the Breach at Gen Con. Kickstarter participants will receive an update after Gen Con.

Malifaux
Models are packaged with all upgrades specific to that model. Generic upgrades are in the Arsenal boxes.
•Malifaux, 2nd Edition (M2E) - $40 (Sep)
•Arsenal Boxes - $8 each (Sep)
•Note Each model is available ONLY in its primary faction. Three cards are provided for models which can be taken in multiple (unless the model is rare 2, then you get two).
•Guild Wave 1
•Resurrectionists Wave 1
•Arcanists Wave 1
•Neverborn Wave 1
•Outcasts Wave 1
•Gremlins Wave 1
•Ten Thunders Wave 1
•Minis - Crews
•The Guild's Judgement (Lady Justice Crew) - $45 (Sep)
•Shadows Of Redchapel (Seamus Crew) - $40 (Sep)
•Children of December (Rasputina Crew) - $45 (Oct)
•Mother of Monsters (Lilith Crew) - $40 (Oct)
•Hired Swords (Viktoria Crew) - $40 (Nov)
•Minis - Enforcers
•Death Marshals - $21 (Nov)
•Rotten Belles
•Ice Gamin - $15 (Nov)
•Terror Tots
•Ronin

Gen Con 2013 Convention Exclusives
Not sold anywhere after the convention has concluded.
•Nightmare Tara, Herald of Obliteration (+ Crew) - $80
•Miss Step - Steamborg Executioner - free with $100 purchase (Limit one per purchase.)

Cool, good to hear that Miss Step is a freebie, the way it was advertised made it look like it was purchase as normal.

$8 is very reasonable to get an entire faction's worth of cards to update to Mv2 and for people simply looking to get stats for a whole faction.

 Absolutionis wrote:
$8 is very reasonable to get an entire faction's worth of cards to update to Mv2 and for people simply looking to get stats for a whole faction.

Right?

You're the first person I've seen say this, here or anywhere else. I was pretty happy they got down to that price.

 Absolutionis wrote:
$8 is very reasonable to get an entire faction's worth of cards to update to Mv2 and for people simply looking to get stats for a whole faction.

Its just the first wave, but still not terrible.

I noted they removed Through the Breach. I hope the canon game is still going on at least. My friend shelled out the $500 to be part of the games lore and be in the canon campaign event... I assume I would have heard about it if they cancelled it.

They could always have gone with Miss Management. Although they're still in my personal graces, and I've had naught but fun except this one game against my circle of friends' TFG...

 Lalochezia wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:
$8 is very reasonable to get an entire faction's worth of cards to update to Mv2 and for people simply looking to get stats for a whole faction.

Right?

You're the first person I've seen say this, here or anywhere else. I was pretty happy they got down to that price.

First time I've seen the price, I was expecting to shell out 12 to 15 for the decks. Now I must find more about 2nd ed that I enjoy besides the art and storyline. Eh no worries might hop over and see if I can't sneak a demo, if the henchmen in the exhibitor's hall need a practice run, PM and I'll walk over from the booth I'll be chained to

Looks like it'll be LadyJ and Dwcember with decks to get my Miss Step.

I'll have to consider the Tara box later in the con to see if its worth it.

Additionally, I'll be working for war store and am probably gonna have trouble spending my credit at their store (trying not to start anything new) so if Anyone is interested in trades, I'd be game.

So what exactly is included in the "Wave 1" Arsenal box?
Say I have the entire Guild Faction currently.
Which models will that $8 get me cards for?

It sounds like you're getting most of the stuff that isn't dual faction/takable b/c cross faction

for instance, Lucius would be out because mcmourning and lucius can both take them with
guild hounds would be out because marcus could take them
constructs would be out because leveticus can take them


Is that the idea, Justin?

 skrulnik wrote:
So what exactly is included in the "Wave 1" Arsenal box?
Say I have the entire Guild Faction currently.
Which models will that $8 get me cards for?

Justice, Sonnia, and Perdita
Their standard crew models (family, witchling, death marshall, totems...)
Along with The Lone Marshall
Peacekeeper
Guild Guard
Austringer
Executioner
and the Gov's Proxy

You will also get the Guild specific upgrades

Guild in all is very similar to their Book 1 incarnations.


As far as I can tell

I'll probably be picking up Rasputina's crew, the book, ressers* and ten thunders decks, and some Ice Gamin.

*if Kirai is in there

I'm posting from the email I got today. I realize this data isn't new but pictures are always nicer than bullet point text. Oh, most of the pics are links to bigger versions so click if you want to see it in better detail.

Join Wyrd for our biggest Gen Con ever.

We'll have demos of 7 games at our booth (#931) and hour-long demos at our Events space in Exhibit Hall C.

Try out some of our activities.

• 3 tournaments

• 2 Story Encounters

• A Malifaux Achievement League

• CosPlay - show up as a Malifaux gunslinger or an Evil Baby or anything else in the Wyrd universe and win prizes

• Coloring Contest - choose from Evil Babies, Puppets, and Jetpack Unicorn art

• Wyrd Gen Con Painting Contest - prizes awarded for Individual, Crew, Diorama, and Best of Wyrd

• MHE Paint and Take - many great Wyrd plastic minis to choose from

• MHE Speed Painting

Buy Wyrd Games

We will have a store selling all our wonderful products, pre-releases of new M2e miniatures, the new M2e Rulebook and Arsenal Boxes. Also we will have two box sets exclusive to Gen Con.

•Herald of Obliteration, Nightmare Edition

•Miss Step, Steamborg Executioner

Everything we sell at the convention is also available in our web store during the convention dates, so even if you can't make it to Indy, you can get Wyrd.

Available at Gen Con and in Wyrd's online store

•The Guild's Judgement
[Lady Justice Crew]



•Shadows Of Redchapel
[Seamus Crew]



•Children of December
[Rasputina Crew]



•Mother of Monsters
[Lilith Crew]



•Hired Swords
[Viktoria Crew]



Also available at Gen Con and in Wyrd's online store

•Death Marshals



•Rotten Belles



•Ice Gamin



•Terror Tots



•Ronin

Wyrd is pre-releasing three games at Gen Con.

Showdown: Icons



A fast-paced card dueling game in which two players battle each other to win. Each deck in Showdown: Icons can be played against any other Showdown deck. Showdown: Icons features rough and hardened characters from the world of the Icons, including: Queen of Hearts, King of Clubs, and Ace of Spades. Includes 5 plastic card decks.

Kings of Artifice



Players are immersed into the world of Artifice where they must forge buildings and score Victory Points. With Event cards, Spell cards, strategy, and structures, the game changes with each play! Cast spells, vanquish foes, and create an unparalleled kingdom to dominate the realm.

This classic euro-style game for 2-4 players uses wooden blocks to create structures and focuses on strategy as the key to win - focus on your kingdom, hinder your opponent's progress, or take advantage of each game's unique characteristics (Spells and Events). Game by Jonathan Pac Cantin. Illustrated by Miguel Coimbra.

The World Needs a Jetpack Unicorn



Really, who could disagree with that? The comedic possibilities are endless as players respond to questions that fuel impromptu stories. The goal is to convince your friends (using Transmog cards) that your story is best. Mind-bending art from Melvin de Voor.

Chronicles #7



Issue #7 of the Wyrd Chronicles is now available with new articles and stories.

Sample the rules for Tara, the Herald of Obliteration, Wyrd's Gen Con 2013 limited edition Nightmare model.

Learn more about Wyrd's 3 upcoming games, being pre-released at Gen Con - Showdown, Jetpack Unicorn and Kings of Artifice.

Read Wyrd Chronicles 7 Now

T-Shirts



As some of you will know Wyrd joined forces with Offworld Design to create some great T-Shirts with our artwork on. Offworld Design will be at booth 319. So pop in and pick up a T-Shirt to show your support.

Goodbye money....

So... When can we expect the Malifaux Showdown decks?

Also wtf is Icons from? My google-fu is weak.

I'm thoroughly disappointed that they are delaying Through the Breach, and not notifying the kickstarter backers until after it was to have shipped.

( I understand why they did it - they chose to make M2E their big thing this year, taking up all their attention, but it means abandoning their commitment to kickstarter)

Wyrd was one of the companies whose kickstarter I expected to go out on time.

They hired Mack just to do it and then moved him onto their other project, a somewhat poorly recieved reboot.
The beta testing for M2E is continuing all the way through at least Jan of next year.

When are they going to get around to finishing through the breach?

Ashitaka wrote:
I'm thoroughly disappointed that they are delaying Through the Breach, and not notifying the kickstarter backers until after it was to have shipped.

( I understand why they did it - they chose to make M2E their big thing this year, taking up all their attention, but it means abandoning their commitment to kickstarter)

Wyrd was one of the companies whose kickstarter I expected to go out on time.

They hired Mack just to do it and then moved him onto their other project, a somewhat poorly recieved reboot.
The beta testing for M2E is continuing all the way through at least Jan of next year.

When are they going to get around to finishing through the breach?

Miggidy Mack wrote:I don't think we'll have it at GenCon. At least, I'm not trying to get it there (I was looking at a late august/early sept "off to the printers" date).

If some things really fall into line I could get ahead of the game, but right now I would think it is unlikely. It is in a playable state, and the Canon Campaign will be a hoot though!

This was on July 3rd about a half out after updated #38 went out. Nothing has been said, and like EBO last year I was hoping to pick up my Through the Breach books at GenCon.

I think what I'm mostly disappointed about is that Jetpack Unicorn will be available at GenCon, but Through the Breach won't be Jetpac Unicorn has been done for like 3 weeks and is ready for release (or at least pre-release).

Also the 2nd edition isn't poorly received, look through this thread most of the posters that are posting here like the changes to 2nd edition... There is a vocal minority (as there always is).

I got a friend picking up nightmare tara and the 2e rulebook (which will prerelease at gencon apparrently) so i'm pretty happy

 Alfndrate wrote:

Miggidy Mack wrote:I don't think we'll have it at GenCon. At least, I'm not trying to get it there (I was looking at a late august/early sept "off to the printers" date).

This was on July 3rd about a half out after updated #38 went out. Nothing has been said, and like EBO last year I was hoping to pick up my Through the Breach books at GenCon.

Also the 2nd edition isn't poorly received, look through this thread most of the posters that are posting here like the changes to 2nd edition... There is a vocal minority (as there always is).

I hadn't seen Mack's post before I wrote, I only knew that the main Wyrd forum, until the last few days, still said that the books would be available at Gencon.
Sept is fine, as that's the actual ship date from the Kickstarter.

I tried to qualify M2E with "somewhat" poorly. I think it's quite good and my gaming group is switching over.

Ashitaka wrote:
I hadn't seen Mack's post before I wrote, I only knew that the main Wyrd forum, until the last few days, still said that the books would be available at Gencon.
Sept is fine, as that's the actual ship date from the Kickstarter.

I tried to qualify M2E with "somewhat" poorly. I think it's quite good and my gaming group is switching over.

Mack's post was buried in the Through the Breach playtest forums on bad-things-happen.com.

I'm not expecting them to ship out in September :-\. I know how Wyrd gets during post GenCon insanity. So after GenCon, Wyrd will be inundated with GenCon web orders, the shipping staff (bless their hearts) will work around the clock till like October to get everything ordered during GenCon while getting new releases ready, getting minor orders made after GenCon, and FLGS/distributor re-stocks. I pray for September, but I'm thinking November...

Every edition is going to be met with people that don't like the changes. I don't like the upgrades, the changes to soulstones, the balancing of master vs master, and the changes to the jokers. That's on the surface. I don't like some of the changes to my favorite masters but I knew that was going to happen when they announced it (admittedly Pandora was on of the worst masters to face and I love playing her). I liked that Malifaux was balanced on a faction to faction basis because it meant that if I was facing arcanists, I could look at my Neverborn and think, "well I don't want Chompy because of x, y, and z, so instead I'll take Lillith for reasons a, b, and c" While my opponent is thinking the same thing. A master to master balance is better for people with smaller collections and new players since they don't have to worry about having a master that is just screwed when playing their local meta and they get discouraged, but it means I play a master for flavor instead of how they might perform against a certain faction.

I do love the rumored changes I heard to Avatars, the advancement of the storyline, and Gremlins becoming their own faction, and as always the art. *shrugs* They got me hooked on plenty of things, but not the important things for a tabletop skirmish game, which is why I'm hoping I really love Through the Breach since it has those things and I don't have to worry about the model changes.

Ashitaka wrote:
I'm thoroughly disappointed that they are delaying Through the Breach, [b]and not notifying the kickstarter backers until after it was to have shipped.[b]

While I too was hoping to see TtB sooner rather than later, the bolded remains to be seen, and if they stick to their word, is patently untrue. The delivery date on the KS campaign site is Sept, so unless they give us an update over a month and a half after Gencon, there's plenty of time before it would be "after it was to have shipped".

Not trying to be antagonistic, but we're nearly two months away from the initially projected delivery date, there's still time yet. While obviously there's an ongoing trend of successful campaigns delivering late, let's not start proclaiming lateness well before it's actually late.

I'm not sure how common this is with other companies, but for example, when Wyrd says that a model will be out in "August", it generally hits stores a few days before the end of the month, and my general approach is that when someone isn't willing to give anything more specific than a month for delivery of something, to assume the end of the month and be pleasantly surprised if it shows up earlier than the literal last day.

 Forar wrote:
I'm not sure how common this is with other companies, but for example, when Wyrd says that a model will be out in "August", it generally hits stores a few days before the end of the month, and my general approach is that when someone isn't willing to give anything more specific than a month for delivery of something, to assume the end of the month and be pleasantly surprised if it shows up earlier than the literal last day.

My only concern about the September shipping date is that Justin has said that the M2E rulebooks get shipped off to the printers in mid-July to get there in time for GenCon, now I'm not assuming that the M2E Books are waiting at the convention center for Wyrd when they show up on Tuesday/Wednesday for set up, but that means it's 2 to 3 weeks for it to get to the Printer, printed, and shipped back to Wyrd. At that point every other backer reward probably needs to be in the warehouse ready to go so the warehouse crew can start packing for shipment immediately.

So 3 weeks from (let's say the Wednesday after GenCon Aug 21st) is September 11th. At that point there are 19 days left in September to start shipping. Will Wyrd spend their time with the smallest packages first and move to the big ones? But EBO, an arguably easier reward structure to fulfill took them a month from update 22 that said, "hey most things have been shipped" to update 23 that said, "Everything has been shipped!"

 Forar wrote:
While I too was hoping to see TtB sooner rather than later, the bolded remains to be seen, and if they stick to their word, is patently untrue. The delivery date on the KS campaign site is Sept, so unless they give us an update over a month and a half after Gencon, there's plenty of time before it would be "after it was to have shipped".
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You are correct about this - I'd misremembered the date as August rather than sept, since the books were going to be available initially at Gencon. Apologies.

I am still worried about the shipping date since things like the Hannah miniature would probably have been available at Gencon if they are going to be ready in Sept. Plus the ongoing M2E beta testing.

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Forar wrote:
I'm not sure how common this is with other companies, but for example, when Wyrd says that a model will be out in "August", it generally hits stores a few days before the end of the month, and my general approach is that when someone isn't willing to give anything more specific than a month for delivery of something, to assume the end of the month and be pleasantly surprised if it shows up earlier than the literal last day.

My only concern about the September shipping date is that Justin has said that the M2E rulebooks get shipped off to the printers in mid-July to get there in time for GenCon, now I'm not assuming that the M2E Books are waiting at the convention center for Wyrd when they show up on Tuesday/Wednesday for set up, but that means it's 2 to 3 weeks for it to get to the Printer, printed, and shipped back to Wyrd. At that point every other backer reward probably needs to be in the warehouse ready to go so the warehouse crew can start packing for shipment immediately.

So 3 weeks from (let's say the Wednesday after GenCon Aug 21st) is September 11th. At that point there are 19 days left in September to start shipping. Will Wyrd spend their time with the smallest packages first and move to the big ones? But EBO, an arguably easier reward structure to fulfill took them a month from update 22 that said, "hey most things have been shipped" to update 23 that said, "Everything has been shipped!"

I have one on my desk now, have since last Thursday. Good to leave a little time in case of delays, but there weren't any.

 Lalochezia wrote:
I have one on my desk now, have since last Thursday. Good to leave a little time in case of delays, but there weren't any.

Of course it's good, always plan for delays . I didn't figure that you guys would leave such a thing so close to the deadline after the Misaki box fiasco last GenCon. But my time table still stands, most of us probably won't be seeing our stuff till October or later.

Also have I missed an email about Hannah, the plastic fate deck, the minis? I've heard next to nothing beyond the few emails we've gotten since the end of the campaign.

While I was happy with the minis that came in EBO, I wasn't too impressed with the EBO Fate Deck or the Plushie. I would like to see any preview of the stuff that I can so I can feel safe about my investment .

Alf, nope, there's not been much in the way of KS news for quite some time- I think the last was a reminder to join the forums?

Oh, I'm certainly not expecting everyone to get their TtB KS backer package by Sept 30th, but until we're told otherwise, I hope they're at least starting to send them out by then.

Now, between Gencon, recuperating from Gencon, recuperating from the plague they always seem to bring back from Gencon, and mailing out hundreds of Gencon online orders, I'm sure the warehouse will be staging a mutiny once they're asked to follow up with 1500+ KS backer kits (though luckily they come in only 4 distinct flavours, rather than the infinite variety possible with store orders), but if they start shipping off in Sept at some point and most of them are out/in hand in Sept/Oct, I wouldn't consider it a problem.

Yes, yes, aside from the standard 'omg add 6 months to any KS release date', given that this was all sorted out 7 months ago, I remain cautiously optimistic that the figures have been pressed, the books are nearing completion, and that we get everything in a timely fashion.