Having beaten Borderlands Pre Sequel I'm hoping to get more time in on Payday 2 with all the new stuff. The new talent tree was a bit of a shock, but I decided to stick mostly Ghost since I like going silent. Still, picked up the skill that let's me pick up items while in casing mode, which seems huge for certain maps. Sadly, the Ghost skill that gives an extra body bag does not stack with the ... new talent tree whose name I forget's skill that ALSO gives an extra body bag. Was hoping to start with three for maps like Art Gallery/Framing Frame.
Lord Bingo wrote: After a year of waiting finally get to play as the proper Hoxton again. Also was it me or the breakout heist was really difficult? The first day especially, pushing through all those cops on the open street really reminded me of heat street from the first game which was an absolute nightmare.
We played it twice, once on normal to get a feel for it, then again with a full crew of four on very hard and yes, two of us didn't make it to the end of the first day. That parking garage is designed to really kick your ass. Me and a lightweight were up top while the other two were gunned down, I blow open the last door, find the server controls and a black Bulldozer sitting there.
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SH*T!
Somehow we made it, despite being low on ammo and health, holy gak.
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streamdragon wrote: Having beaten Borderlands Pre Sequel I'm hoping to get more time in on Payday 2 with all the new stuff. The new talent tree was a bit of a shock, but I decided to stick mostly Ghost since I like going silent. Still, picked up the skill that let's me pick up items while in casing mode, which seems huge for certain maps. Sadly, the Ghost skill that gives an extra body bag does not stack with the ... new talent tree whose name I forget's skill that ALSO gives an extra body bag. Was hoping to start with three for maps like Art Gallery/Framing Frame.
The new skill tree is an interesting one, I've only put a few points into it, mostly because getting a movement speed bonus when using steel sights? feth yes!
It's worse on overkill, which probably wasn't the best difficulty to try it on first. Got to the control room on our fourth attempt with only me and the enforcer left. I blow open the door and there's a bloody skulldozer in there, nice to know it wasn't just us who got a bulldozer inappropriate for the difficulty. Suffice to say we wiped about five seconds later. But yeah was a really enjoyable heist, and the money and xp are pretty sweet.
Day One of the heist is a real buster if everyone isn't with the program, namely staying with the van and always moving forward. People fall behind they get surrounded and die fast because the van is the best cover you'll get. Day 2 is way easier. The Money and exp for the mission are insane.
Best answer to the Skulldozer; Someone with e HE Sweeper ready to stun lock it. Honestly, every crew imo should have at least one member with an HE Sweeper. It's too damn useful not to bring it imo. Especially with the new maps seemingly increasing Taser spawns. Pretty much mandatory for smooth Deathwish Runs (along with C4 and Inspire).
Also, who's tried Akimbo? Personally, I'm hoping that it's just a glitch that no skill bonus' apply to them (namely the stability boosts and MM pistol skills). Just two plain pistols with a massive stability nerf is not particularly useful (and then on the tail end of the SPAS' final introduction being a complete let down). Naked Berreti's are useless. Crosskills and Deagles pass, but I'm not really sure why anyone would take them over assault rifles except for a longing to be in a John Woo movie.
I've given guns akimbo a go before putting everything into Armourer for the time being. Guns akimbo is.. okay, but nothing stellar or super useful. It's fun for showing off or when you're doing a heist that's easy and doesn't require a lot of serious thought. Only good thing is the insane high rate of fire on the Crosskills and Beretta's, other than that, not doing it for me as I had hoped.
I mean, I can move at a regular speed with steel sight now, so taking point and double-tapping just got a whole lot more interesting for me.
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Lord Bingo wrote: It's worse on overkill, which probably wasn't the best difficulty to try it on first. Got to the control room on our fourth attempt with only me and the enforcer left. I blow open the door and there's a bloody skulldozer in there, nice to know it wasn't just us who got a bulldozer inappropriate for the difficulty. Suffice to say we wiped about five seconds later. But yeah was a really enjoyable heist, and the money and xp are pretty sweet.
That's our next move, try and tackle it on Overkill, though two of our guys need to respec first, the reset of all skills came as a bit of a surprise to them and they wanted to jump in ASAP. But playing through it with a Ghost-Mastermind, a jack of all trades and two Tech-forcers (one with ammo, I went with trip mines for doors) made for a great experience.
Oh yes. Getting a good Akimbo build with the Pistol perks is super heavy on your skill points. I basically have all my stuff invested into MM and Fugitive to make it work (my only real utility is that I got Inspire Aced, which will be useful).
Yeah. I used to be annoyed at the old doge builds, because they just weren't good, but with the new Perk Decks and the adjustments to the skill trees a Combat Suit has become very practical, if intensive on your resources. The hardest part of my current build has been keeping my concealment under 25 while keeping a useful secondary.
If you got the AT DLC, get the Gruber Kurz. Good concealment, super precise.
Akimbo is just amazing. You can literally run up against a Bulldozer and down it with a few shots. Not having armor is good for your playstyle as well as you will automatically go in cover all the time whereas armor might tempt you to go out in the open with a false sense of security. 60% dodge is aweseome. Full rogue deck.
While I'm not full Fugitive, I did pump points into "Run and Gun" because move speed bonus aside, being able to move at regular speed while using steel sights is just fething awesome.
I did try guns akimbo for a bit before my perks get reset again (I really need to write down the current loadout, because as soon as Clover gets her release we'll see another reset) and while it is a lot of fun, it does require you to really rework your skills to an extreme degree to make the most of it.
Kinda hard for me to do, as I'm a dedicated technician and I'm also very much sold on the enforcer bits where I can take more damage and bring along a saw. I'm not that big on waiting for drills to finish.
LordofHats wrote: Yeah. I like fugitive but Fugitive has a serious problem in that it's lower tiers are filled with trash abilities. Climbing ladders faster. Really?
The top three tiers, are pure GOLD. Every single one of those abilities is amazing in some way, but the tax you pay to get them quickly grows.
Yeh. You don't need the Medpack Ace either aka 4 more packs. Not a fan of body bags either. I still got the 1 pt faster climbing perk, be it just to ask my wife to watch HOW FAST I climb that latter in Go Bank.
I do have the body bag perk as it is useful on some maps (namely Election Day Day 2), and it helps in Framing Frame not to have to go all the way back to the roof to refill your bags, but unless you stealth frequently, there is no need to spend the points.
The ability to move for 6 seconds after being hit though, is so damn useful. And in the case of having a grenade launcher or LMG, kind of hilarious (maybe not the LMG, but definitely a shot gun with HE rounds)
I wonder: if you get the "Don't die but get 6 seconds before actually going down" [Hard to kill?] perk and are the last living member in the Escape Zone, will you get to escape or will you count as being down and thus not trigger the escape?
Lasers are fine for when you've aced Iron Man, when mobility and a base of fire are required, but other than that, I always use the Speculator Sight. I'm drowning in those.
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Though if you really do need to use a laser, always try and take the combined module, which may sound silly, but some jobs do have their dark spots where a flash light might be handy.
Goddamn. Play a mission for 30 min, idiot host leaves. The game not having a rejoin or re-locate host option is a severe oversight and poor programming.
Yeah. They said at release they couldn't get it working in time for launch but I agree. After two years, a host migration feature really should be in the game. I can't say it's ever hurt too much not having it, but every now and then, some BS happens -_-
Well, not long now, she may be part of the Christmas heist.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Huh, Clover was supposed to be Scottish, but this has been changed to Irish, along with a famous(?) Irish BBC actress doing her voice: Séainín Brennan.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Okay, the site is now up and here's the briefing:
Ho ho ho ho-ly gak!
Vlad is pissed. Didn’t you hear? That drunken Bosnian Norwegian brother-in-law pilot of his crashed his plane like a cheap Yugoslavian rocket. Somewhere in the forest, there is a burning plane filled with Vlad’s latest shipment of pure Colombian cocaine! Millions of dollars worth of snow, ready for any babushka to steal right from under our noses. Vlad won’t let that happen and you’re going to help him not let that happen.
Step one is to save that pilot so that the pigs can’t question him and find out he’s connected to Vlad. Step two is to bring back as much coke and other valuable stuff you can find.
We have got to help Vlad get his white Xmas!
The White Xmas Heist is the second annual OVERKILL Xmas heist for PAYDAY 2 and lets players help Vlad rescue his Bosnian Norwegian brother-in-law pilot who crashed his plane carrying a large transport of pure Colombian cocaine. A loud-only heist, players are to escort the drunken pilot and make sure he gets out alive while grabbing as many valuables as they can with them.
It's a loud mission, so cue the whiney witches crying about not being able to sneak it.
The mission will be unlocked on Thursday, with a present for today and tomorrow. The seven new achievements have also been added in, but are as of yet still locked away with the lyrics from White Christmas, fitting.
The masks of Xmas!
Remember the Mechanical Bull challenge? Almir met with a couple of community members in Los Angeles and challenged them to ride a mechanical bull and hold on for as long as possible. To the surprise of everyone, Almir lost and the community members could claim their reward – to make one Xmas mask each for the Xmas Heist. Together with these heroes of the PAYDAY community, we’ve made four new masks for you to enjoy.
”Mrs. Claus” by Idiivil
When Santa is flying through December skies, someone has to stay home and keep the elves in line. No-one does that better than the whip-cracking, cigar-smoking kommandant of the Claus household.
”Krampus” by Auburok
Been a bad boy or girl this year? Then you can expect a visit from Krampus. Or a phone-call from Bain.
”Mechanical Santa” by 40 Percent Pwnamite
This jolly, festive automaton has the heart of Santa. He keeps it in a box, under a pile of elf corpses, and surrounded by severed reindeer heads.
”The Strinch” by STrAT
A seasoned heister over the festival period, the Strinch has been stealing Christmases since 1957. Also linked with the Halloween Heist of 1972.
BONUS MASK: ALMIR'S BEARD
Bonus: The Beard
For those who go above and beyond to help Vlad get his white Xmas, a legendary treasure of epic proportions awaits. In centuries past, this ancient trophy has gone by many names; the Beard of Destiny, the Untamed, Worldbreaker and the Beard of a Thousand Winks. To you, it’s simply more known as Almir’s Beard.
Some say that real men don’t shave, but the truth is that real men can’t shave. Ordinary razors simply bounce off the dense, magnificent foliage that is a truly full Almir beard.
Achievements:
Vlad’s Little Helpers Complete the White Xmas job on the Normal difficulty. Unlocks the “Mrs. Claus” mask.
Stealing Christmas Complete the White Xmas job on the Hard difficulty. Unlocks the “Strinch” mask.
Cancelling Santa’s Christmas Complete the White Xmas job on the Very Hard difficulty. Unlocks the “Krampus” mask.
Claustrophobia Complete the White Xmas job on the OVERKILL difficulty. Unlocks the “Mechanical Santa” mask.
Like Turkeys Voting for an Early Christmas Complete the White Xmas job on the Death Wish difficulty.
Riders On the Snowstorm In the White Xmas job, complete the heist on the Death Wish difficulty while each crew member wear a different “2014 Xmas” mask each. Unlocks the “Almir’s Beard” mask.
Impossible, It Can’t Be. Is it? Secure the rare Almir’s Toast.
Well I waited for so long for old Hoxton to come out can't really abandon him now. It's not a complaint, just i'm not really gonna get a chance to play as Clover as his accent is too damn awesome.
Fair enough, while I love old Hoxton, I have grown really attached to the deadpan and businesslike deliveries of Houston, though I am curious how Clover's pager replies will be.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Okay, coming next week, December 16th, a new heist and a new heister!
Q: What can I expect?
A: Watch the trailer.
Q: How much is it?
A: Wait until Sunday for day 1 and more information.
Q: I can't find the site?
A: We're teasing with the trailer now - day 1 goes live on Sunday.
BrookM wrote: Fair enough, while I love old Hoxton, I have grown really attached to the deadpan and businesslike deliveries of Houston, though I am curious how Clover's pager replies will be.
Voice modulator. I could see it being deliberately bad. I'm just guessing, but it's either gotta be that, or there's going to be female guard added, with the female FBI agents setting precedent.
Heh, no voice modulator, but rather her using her normal voice or trying to put on a gruff one. What makes it even more hilarious is the already deadpan and mundane slew of replies the operator on the other side of the line gives, no matter how absurd or mundane the explanation for the pager going off.
"Uh huh, uh huh, well see you later for bowling!"
Also, still waiting on that new GenSec enemy to show up and make us gak bricks or whatever.
Sigvatr wrote: Their DLC prices are just beyond insane. Asking 5€ for 4 new weapons and a few achievements is a blatant rip-off.
I agree, but it's also one of the only mutliplayer games I've found that I've been able to play for more than a month or so. That makes me more inclined to throw money at it.
Alrighty, day 2 has been unveiled, with a preview of Clover and her kit, including a new assault rifle, the SA-80 or whatever it's called.
Meet Clover. Born and raised on a housing estate in Northside, Dublin. Hoxton, you have history with her. Why don’t you tell the story…
“She was just a day off the Holyhead ferry when I met her. Already calling herself Clover. The little toe-rag tried to pull the Pigeon Drop on me. Haha! Well, of course, I picked up on that gak right away. But I saw something in her. This cocky bird had some balls, y’know. So I thought, rather than clip her wings, I’d help her fly. Taught her what I knew, like. Proper Fagin to her.
Anyway, long story short, we grifted across the UK, pulled a bunch of heists, and then the little gak ran out on me with a lorry load of Territorial Army L-85’s. Could’ve killed the little fether! But then…Y’know, I thought, she’s gonna do alright. As she drove that lorry away, waving two fingers at me, I was proud of her… In a way. Haha… Good times.”
Clover’s Items
With Clover joining the PAYDAY gang, she brings a couple of trinkets with her that she just couldn’t part with. She comes with her very own mask, rifle and melee weapon. Click the headlines below to learn more.
Clover’s mask represents what Clover both fears and hates most of all – wearing a mask as your normal face. The surgically-shrunken nose, the botox’d lips and the expression of all-consuming vanity and self-obsession – all are symbols of fear and weakness, twisted into a horrifying parody. Clover grew up in a rough house in a rough part of town. Her ancestors were fighters in every generation, and she is fiercely dedicated to her Irish heritage. She wears the clovers for luck, as well as a way to say “I’m Irish, and I’m proud”.
Queen’s Wrath
Clover and Hoxton hijacked a lorry delivering L-85 assault rifles to a Territorial Army depot outside Aldershot, England. Clover drove off with the entire shipment, while leaving her mentor to fight his way out. Hox didn’t really mind – he had taught her well.
This rifle is the last one from that batch. It is powerful, robust and easy to maintain. Clover sold the shipment to Libyan rebels but kept the Wrath – to remind herself of that last job, and her first teacher.
Clover´s Shillelagh
It’s hard to determine the true origins of the shillelagh. How can you pinpoint the first time someone picked up a stout stick and brained someone else with it? And the shillelagh really hasn’t evolved too much beyond that. Some prize blackthorn wood, while some might fill the head with molten lead. Others might bind it with leather straps, or cure it with animal fat. But, at the end of the day, it really is just a bloody heavy stick that cracks skulls.
Burglar
The natural dexterity of the burglar has benefits beyond merely breaking and entering. Being nimble allows the burglar to pick locks, bag bodies and answer pagers faster. They are also harder to hit in combat. They stay alive by staying out of the way.
This physical conditioning also gives burglars a high tolerance to pain, and they are able to shrug off wounds quickly.
Sigvatr wrote: Darn. Would have been awesome if they made her look very attractive instead of looking so "edgy". Look handsome, be a total badass. Meh :(
Well, it's not like the guys are exactly the sort of eye popping hotness either. However, she does stand out from the rest with the streaks of painted hair and pierced nose. Also, when she was first previewed a year or so ago by David Goldfarb there was a lot of that criticism abound regarding her not looking stunning enough, or needing bigger boobs and the top of her shirt unbuttoned.
The perk deck I'm most interested in, this may be the one I'll need to max out to get the most out of those silent jobs that I'm totally not built for.
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Melissia wrote: Wait, what? You expect a career criminal to be a supermodel in order for you to like the characte?
You'd be amazed how many people are going to be bothered by this.
Also, why bother with the looks when you're playing a first person shooter? I'm more concerned about her lines, I'm hoping she swears up a storm!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Right now comments on her range from:
n1 overkill, with wick, you have make the most ugly caracters in all video game ever
and..
A female, non-hypersexualised heister? Spot on yet again!
If I had to comment on her appearance, I would just say I think the streaks of red in her hair plus the nose piercing both add some nice character to her.
Melissia wrote: Wait, what? You expect a career criminal to be a supermodel in order for you to like the characte?
No, but her current appearance was the most obvious one. Female character in action game, must be edgy and grim. No way an attractive female can be a badass! It's just a pretty clicheed appearance and going for a less obvious appearance would have been a nice surprise. Like her looking like a girl next door - that would have been an actual surprise.
Most of the time female characters in action games are basically supermodels, not "edgy".
She looks like a normal person. Hell, she reminds me of my sister, who is anything but edgy (she has her nose pierced and red streaks in her hair, though her hair's red streaks are more prominent than Clover's, and a little bit of facial resemblance).
Well, maybe the next one will be what the community wants and is screaming for. Then again, every time new DLC is released, be it free or paid, the Payday community becomes hyper-toxic and really shameful.
Like I said, she'll fit right in with the average Joes already in the team, not counting Wick. feth him.
PD2 community hateful? WHAT? I mean, it's not like with every new heist, there's the "OMG NO STEALTH POSSIBLE WTF I WANT MY MONEY BACK YOU FANS!...wait it was free?...STRAWMAN STRAAAAAAAAWMAAAAAAAAAAAAN!" crowd.
Hoxton Breakout is the best mission there is. Fast, easy and high rewards. Whine more!
BrookM wrote: Well, maybe the next one will be what the community wants and is screaming for. Then again, every time new DLC is released, be it free or paid, the Payday community becomes hyper-toxic and really shameful.
Like I said, she'll fit right in with the average Joes already in the team, not counting Wick. feth him.
To be fair, it's easy to make a cardboard cutout look good with the right perspective.
Sigvatr wrote: PD2 community hateful? WHAT? I mean, it's not like with every new heist, there's the "OMG NO STEALTH POSSIBLE WTF I WANT MY MONEY BACK YOU FANS!...wait it was free?...STRAWMAN STRAAAAAAAAWMAAAAAAAAAAAAN!" crowd.
Hoxton Breakout is the best mission there is. Fast, easy and high rewards. Whine more!
Exactly!
Same with Shadowraid, a great mission, but only possibly in stealth. Cue the crowds frothing at the mouth for Overkill ruining it for the people who can only do loud missions.
The only thing I'd really like to see / have would be dual skill trees so you could have one for loud and one for stealth missions. HoxHud does something like it, but it basically is re-skilling "plus".
It's something a lot of people bring up, Overkill usually replies along the lines of not wanting to make it too easy for players to adapt to a heist on the fly. You want to do a heist in a certain way, you'll need to respec, which sadly is a costly affair as you don't get everything refunded*.
My own build is very much geared towards loud stuff. I suck at sneaking, but on the bright side I've got a silent drill, but also C4, a saw and when I get to it again, the ICTV. I'm nine times out of ten the spotter / mule when it comes to sneaking. I'm the best at waiting in the sewers and lug the bags to the zipline as they're dropped in front of me.
* Ooh, we may see both a free skill and perk deck respec tomorrow. Perk deck most certainly, maybe they'll also do the skills while they're at it.
Yeah, but I don't get their stance at all. Why would you actively hinder players to have a more enjoyable experience? You would not actively disadvantage any player, but encourage them to try out different builds and shut down the "Kick player because he got no stealth" attitude.
Hey BrookM, just to say as a technician you don't actually need the silent drilling perk. I had it for a long time and when tried without I found no difference. The only time they hear it is if they can see it anyway. Also means that on day three of firestarter if you put the drill on (at the top where the power switch is, not the main drill) and it's loud the guards will one by one go to check it out, and you can kill them easily.
Unless they've changed it in the last patch, but I doubt they have.
Thing is though, if I don't take Silent Drill I can't take the skills on the higher tiers of Technician, I'm not into sentry guns or using trip mines as you know, trip mines. For me the Technician tree is all about drill skills, shaped charges, a buff in armour and if I have the points to spare, a buffed mag capacity.
The entire Tech Tree is all about the Shaped Charges
Same as Mastermind where everyone just gets it for the super-duper-OP shout-to-revive and Fugitive where the last two tiers are awesome and the other tiers are utter trash.
OV really did an extremely poor job at balancing the skill trees.
Low Blow is insanely OP and let's not talk about Akimbo...and Sneaky Bastard. An Akimbo build lets you mow through enemies without any problem and is vastly OP ever since all gun perks apply to Akimbo weapons as well.
Daredevil, Winston Wolfe, Brother's Keeper and Sixth Sense are utterly useless (Daredevil is the most "what...?" talent in the game). Thick Skin is ok-ish, same goes for Run+Gun, Duck and Cover is good but limited to Dodge Builds.
Whether first aid kits are better than Doctor's Bags is up for debate. They don't refill your downs, they just heal you up. Healing up, however, isn't too useful most of the time as you got a Mastermind on your team who immediately gets you back up and just before going into custody, you heal up w/ the Doctor's Bag. They just fit for an Akimbo build because you can quickly leap in cover, heal up and continue unleashing bullet hell upon your unsuspecting foes.
I am currently I-84 and went from Akimbo to MM/Tech, just to be rather disappointed. I am not much more durable with a lot of armor, but much slower and less agile. Not having nigh-infinite endurance is another weak point. I'll most certainly switch back to Akimbo for my II playthrough. It's just hilariously funny to run around like a madman, shooting everything at sight. And while the Thanatos is praised for its anti-Dozer abilities, I don't see it as much of an advantage compared to my Akimbo Berettis that can also take any Dozer down with one Mag. CRITCRITCRITCRITCRIT.
Plus: Akimbo is useful both for stealth and loud (3 concealment!). MM/Tech can only go loud.
I use a dodge build, have crook maxed out, usually wear a light vest. Have 25% base dodge after the vest's reduction, +15% while crouching, +10% if I'm at 20 conceal or lower (which I usually am), so my dodge rate is 50% in most firefights. Combined with Thick Skin and Bulletproof (Technician/Fugitive build), and I'm actually really survivable as well as mobile.
A bit lacking in stealth I suppose, but that's what concealable, silenced weapons are for.
The addition of perk decks and removal of passives from tiers imo has actually neutered the Technician tree. Basically, its all drills, shaped charges, and sentry turrets and unfortunately those three things DO NOT mesh together well at all. Further, it's very hard to do any one of those three without doing a little of the other two, but the other two basically just become wasted points.
Changes to the game have made Shaped Charges less useful than they were at launch. Drilling can be helpful, but the gain you get from the perks is very meh. I can't say I've ever played a game (since I got good at the game that is) and found that not having drill perks was a hindrance to success. Sentry guns still suck unless you blow full points into sentries which is too damn many points. Further, there's very little combat bonus' to Tech now, and those bonus are absolutely necessary in Death Wish. The top teir armor buff is an amazing skill, but without the passives, pouring points into tech just to get that is a complete waste. Might as well just go down the Enforcer line, pick up the saw on you're way, and you both more useful in a fight and have more utility for your team.
Technician worked because it had some of the best passive bonus' in the game, so while you had some skills that weren't very useful to you, you got some things that were quite good. Perk Decks, titan safe's, and sloppy tier organization have gutted technician. It's just not point effeceint anymore to go that far into the tree, as most of the abilities barring the lowest and highest have so little applicability.
The best thing about MM might be Inspire, but on the way to Inspire are some amazing abilities. Turning cops into hostages/pets, great pistol buffs, a host of useful utility skills. Inspire might be the golden egg but there's plenty of helpful stuff on the way up to make it worthwhile. Same with Fugitive, which frankly, the last 2 tiers are SO good that the others could be complete trash and it would still be worth it.
Yeah, I am a little disappointed in turrets and tripmines. Not sure I want to swap from technician back to Ghost and go Ghost/Fugitive, but I'm sorely tempted.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The game is updating right now, yay!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, two new DLC packs are coming soon: one containing all heists and one containing all guns. These come with an exclusive mask. Already got both or either pack contents? YOU WILL STILL GET THE MASKS.
And they announced something else: Multi-skill builds. Dunno what it means, but it's something the community has been screaming for.
• Introducing Multi Skill Builds – Are you tired of re-speccing every time you want to switch from stealth to loud? Have you ever wanted to have multible skill builds but never could afford the skill costs or bother remembering your favorite set-up? If so, this is your lucky day; introducing the Multi Skill Build feature. Construct up to five Skill Builds - profiles of skills and perk decks. Need a Skill Set heavy on stealth for Framing Frame? Jumping between a Fugimind and a Techforcer set-up? No problem – create a Skill Build each, save it out and you're good to go. Going loud in Hotline? Easy. Switch back to a loud Skill Build. With a few clicks, you're always ready to bring the best skills for any heist.
Eyup, took me a moment to realize what it was all about. But, making good use of it to finally do that stealth build I've always wanted! Maybe now I can be more useful when we need to be sneaky-sneaky and stabby-stabby!
Also..
Her pager talks are well, her answering using her thick accent in some cases and the operator simply going "uh-huh" and "See you at bowling later!"
Haven't had a chance to give the new heist a try yet though, they released it too late in the evening for me.
It'll prolly only get worse when they go for the proposed Overkill 125+ skill trees.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Okay, gave the new heist a quick whirl, it's a fun one with some new elements thrown in for laughs. Buying some of the Dentist assets is a must-have though, I wouldn't play it without thermal paste at the very least for starters and the glass cutters are essential if you want to make this mission at least a little bit profitable.
On that remark, I am really not sure about their Pre-Planning / Assets system. It's...weird. In the beginning, you can't afford taking those, but quickly, you're drowning in money and can blindly buy everything.
Pre-Planning greatly evolved that system by maximizing the number of favors you can take. The general assets, however, are...weird.
Aye, I think the asset system is slowly being phased out in favour of pre-planning, which does give you more control on how you want a heist to go. It does make (IMHO) heists like Shadowraid more enjoyable as you can now decide where the zipline will be. It's no longer a random thing left in the hands of some tool who just randomly does gak, but this time round, seeing as you do the heist, you get to decide how it goes down.
Most of the assets are either useless (insider info for the regular bank jobs anyone?) or not required to pull off a successful caper, especially as the game continues to evolve and give you more toys to play with. Mallcrashers comes to mind. Why bother with the gas cans when three frags can quickly get Bile to come swooping in at under a minute if you know what you're doing?
Also, drill placement for those bank jobs, lolwut?! Some are nice, but with a good crew you don't need any of that stuff IMHO.
I bashed through a few heists today with three good and not to mention competent friends. We almost managed to silently do the Diamond heist, only messing up in the last minute when one of us got spotted with no pagers left.
I'm absolutely loving Clover, I'm very Irish myself and prefer to play a female character, so she's right up my alley. I don't really understand why so many people are complaining about her looks because (1) she looks just fine and (2) why does it matter? THE Diamond is a fun heist, though, I've seen people claim it's super easy on loud but my crew just got swamped with police the entire time, it was pretty rough.
Anyways, I'm starting to run low on people to heist with, so I'm going to be slightly pathetic and say if you want a semi-competent player (but I'm pretty handy with a sniper rifle), then add Skogsdotter, I'd greatly appreciate it. As long as you don't mind a fair amount of foul language (you probably don't if you're playing Payday) then I'm pretty easy to get along with.
The Diamond heist plays nice and tense when going quiet, when you play loud it's just like any other silent job gone bad really: fight off waves of SWAT and FBI until you can get the shiny.
edit.
They also fixed the payout of the Diamond heist, it should be worth a whole lot more now, making it more worthwhile to play on higher difficulty levels.
The Fragile Breath wrote: I'm absolutely loving Clover, I'm very Irish myself and prefer to play a female character, so she's right up my alley. I don't really understand why so many people are complaining about her looks because (1) she looks just fine and (2) why does it matter? THE Diamond is a fun heist, though, I've seen people claim it's super easy on loud but my crew just got swamped with police the entire time, it was pretty rough.
I didn't think she could replace Chains as my favorite, but damn is she trying. It's hard to top Chain's "turned into a freakin Pekingese" pager line.
Diamond is pretty straight forward up until the "step on the right platforms" thing, which can be hard to do solo. Going in loud I haven't had a problem with, but those stupid platforms...
i haven't played this in a while and patched the game up and had a go at it again, I guess I should have read up on some builds before I spent all my refunded points on things that seem pointless now.
any suggestions for some useful builds with survivability? I seem to be very squishy even pretty beefy armor on.
currently im the "drill guy" but maybe something more dodge focused so I can run around with bags?
I really like using rifles and akimbo does have me interested as my locomotive seems more like a toy train than the freight train it used to be.
Happy New Year, heisters! All of us at OVERKILL Software and Starbreeze Studios sincerely hope you had a wonderful holiday, and would like to wish you a happy, healthy and prosperous 2015.
But the bells haven’t stopped ringing yet. We are set to start your 2015 with a big win. And not a close-fought win on judges’ points – this is a three round straight knockout!
Stay involved over the next two days as we unveil a one-two combo of freebies for community members as we go into the new year.
Yesterday we gave you the Champ mask – a look at Dallas after a suffering a severe bout of face-based ultraviolence. Well, today it is time to turn the tables. We’re giving you the means to fight back with a free melee weapon – the OVERKILL Boxing Gloves. Slip these beauties on and unleash 1000 pounds of peak punching power!
New achievement: Knockout!
Knock out a Bulldozer using the OVERKILL boxing gloves.
I prefer the Trautman knife myself when going loud, it even has a little compass in it, just in case you get lost during a heist.
I do like the trench knife when going silent, though I am hesitant to actually call the Fairbairn–Sykes one, seeing as it lacks the brass knuckles that makes it a trench knife.
That the music starts to play on a full charge is certainly a nice touch, makes the stalking of and waiting for security guards to reach certain parts of a map all the more entertaining.
I'd actually disagree simply on the basis that melee sucks in Pay Day 2. It's gotten better since launch certainly, but when the enemies you fight can practically down you in two or three strikes, wailing on them with a stick is completely worthless. Even the melee build is super gimmicky and not useful in the higher difficulties.
The few 'overpowered' melee weapons, are really the only weapons that make melee viable. The toothpick and trench knife work because you can span the blasted things out super fast and hit an enemy for over 100 damage before they even melee you back.
I don't see the point of meele'ing at all. You deal more damage at the same time with regular weapons and you normally don't even come close to situations where you run out of ammo.
Depends entirely on what guns you're using. My streetsweeper with HE rounds only has a clip of 12. Granted, my CAR-4 is rocking a 60 round clip I think, but there are times when I do run out of ammo loaded and REALLY need to take someone down.
Or turning a corner while trying to reload and a swat guy drops in front of me. That's happened a few times.
I use most of the melee weapons as desperation moves more than anything. I like the boxing gloves for the novelty. They made me chuckle. Generally I'm either doing brass knuckles out of wanting concealment or if I know I'm going loud (i.e. I'm playing with other people), I grab the Spear of FREEEEEDOM.
daedalus wrote: I use most of the melee weapons as desperation moves more than anything. I like the boxing gloves for the novelty. They made me chuckle. Generally I'm either doing brass knuckles out of wanting concealment or if I know I'm going loud (i.e. I'm playing with other people), I grab the Spear of FREEEEEDOM.
Yeah, that's exactly my line of thinking. Melee weaponry is, by no means, necessary, so the rule of cool takes places and if you don't take the Spear of Freedom, you clearly don't like freedom. Why don't you like freedom?
GangstaMuffin24 wrote: Knocking enemies down makes them more susceptible to the Mastermind's ability to take them hostage/convert them though. So that's nice.
As a Mastermind / Enforcer, I approve this message.
daedalus wrote: I use most of the melee weapons as desperation moves more than anything. I like the boxing gloves for the novelty. They made me chuckle. Generally I'm either doing brass knuckles out of wanting concealment or if I know I'm going loud (i.e. I'm playing with other people), I grab the Spear of FREEEEEDOM.
Yeah, that's exactly my line of thinking. Melee weaponry is, by no means, necessary, so the rule of cool takes places and if you don't take the Spear of Freedom, you clearly don't like freedom. Why don't you like freedom?
daedalus wrote: I use most of the melee weapons as desperation moves more than anything. I like the boxing gloves for the novelty. They made me chuckle. Generally I'm either doing brass knuckles out of wanting concealment or if I know I'm going loud (i.e. I'm playing with other people), I grab the Spear of FREEEEEDOM.
Yeah, that's exactly my line of thinking. Melee weaponry is, by no means, necessary, so the rule of cool takes places and if you don't take the Spear of Freedom, you clearly don't like freedom. Why don't you like freedom?
i like the toothbrush because well its a toothbrush.
i am really enjoying my dodge build, i will not be able to go akimbo yet but i really like running around grabbing bags and hostages and playing first aid kit fairy.
I stopped using the CAR-4 because while i had loads of ammo i just wasn't downing stuff fast enough, so i went M308 and man that thing is like a mule kick to the face.
Akimbo and Dodge is just outright broken. Super fast, extremely high damage and top-notch survivability. Flash Grenades are annoying as hell, same as Cloakers, but other than that, you're nigh-immortal.
Eleven new mystery achievements have been added to the game, which say the following in Croatian: "Željezo se kuje dok je vruce." which means, "Forge while the iron is hot" and "Cega nema, ne mose se ni uzeti" meaning "Never ventured, nothing gained".
So we may very well be seeing our first non-Overkill heist soon.
I'm pretty sure that Pay Day takes place in an apocalyptic future where the economy has crashed, explaining why the roads of DC are so abandoned cause there's like, hardly anyone there and no one is driving cars. The US has become a police state because 80% of the population appears to be in law enforcement. Guns are obviously illegal which is why they're so insanely expensive. Banks can't even afford decent security.
About the only people doing well are the ones at the funeral home, where the steady stream of dead people killed in bank robberies has turned them into the last millionaires on earth
Melissia wrote: Honestly I'd like to play as her more than that guy. She seems a bit more interesting as a character.
They can still flesh out a character without making her playable.
I'd argue that Bain's character is more fleshed out than most of the other heisters just based on the sheer amount of dialogue he has that characterizes him. That said, I hate Bain so it's not exactly a win.
Funny enough, I think in most cases we know more about the contacts than the player characters.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Well now, the guy playing Dragan is a proper convicted bank robber, a Taekwondo champion, director, actor and runs a gym called Extreme Training in Sweden.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Aaaaand the last one, the butcher is played by Mira Furlan, who has quite a list of cool stuff she was in on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001245/
“No pain, no gain”, a proverb most fitting to describe Dragan, the Croatian “entrepeneur” who the Butcher sent to keep the PAYDAY gang in check, as part of a deal with Bain to secure the lucrative Bomb heists.
Dragan
Life had been good to this corrupt Interpol agent. Everyone was on the take. He got to crack skulls, the money rolled in, and he lived like a king. On both sides of the law, he used his contacts to further his own agenda while playing them against eachother. But that all ended when he betrayed his partner to the Butcher.
His reward for this ultimate act of backstabbing? To act as her confidant on a mission to the U.S. He would be given a fresh identity, a place with the infamous PAYDAY gang as part of a deal with Bain.
A new life in America, the land of golden criminal opportunities. Perhaps there, things would be different.
The Infiltrator is an agent hired by a government or large criminal organization to obtain information about its enemies, or by a corporation to obtain industrial secrets from its competitors. The Infiltrator is a close combat specialist who knows how to use the environment in order to get the upper hand.
Basic Close Combat
When you are close to an enemy, you receive 4% less damage from enemies.
Helmet Popping
Increases your headshot damage by 25%.
Advanced Close Combat
When you are close to an enemy, you receive an additional 4% less damage from enemies.
Blending In
You gain +1 increased concealment. When wearing armor, your movement speed is 15% less affected. You gain 45% more experience when you complete days and jobs.
Expert Close Combat
When you are surrounded by three enemies or more, you receive an additional 4% less damage from enemies. Each successful melee hit grants a 10% melee damage boost for 6 seconds and can stack up to 4 times.
Walk-in Closet
Unlocks an armor bag equipment for you to use. The armor bag can be used to change your armor during a heist. Increases your ammo pickup to 135% of the normal rate.
OVERDOG
When you are surrounded by three enemies or more, you receive an additional 8% less damage from enemies. Each successful melee hit grants an additional 10% melee damage boost for 6 seconds and can stack up to 4 times.
Fast and Furious
You do 5% more damage. Increases your doctor bag interaction speed by 20%.
Life Drain
Striking an enemy with your melee weapon regenerates 10% of your health. This cannot occur more than once every 15 seconds.
20% less damage when 3+ enemies nearby (not hard).
80% extra melee damage. 5% all damage that stacks with the 80% extra melee damage.
Could be fun. Probably won't see lots of use since everyone is all dodge/light armor for DW runs though. Overkill really needs to rework things in DW mode to make other builds even an option. When even the Improved Combined Super Duper Tacticool armor is worthless, there's a problem.
That's because before the Perk Decks came out Dodge was a troll build Moment Perk Decks came out everyone wants to Dodge, because it's Matrix style That and the Tactical Vest always had the problem that it was just too damn slow. People used it because they needed the armor in DW fire fights, but when it came time to escape or move bags it became a huge liability. IMO dodge doesn't need a nerf. Armor vests need a buff. You lose ridiculous amounts of speed for wearing armor. Always have. Being able to get in and out of cover is far more valuable than taking more hits while out of cover.
Sigvatr wrote: Just sayin' I did Dodge before it was cool. And got kicked for having a Dodge build. Quite a few times. Then people realized it's overpowered as hell.
That's what happened to my brother as well, when people were shouting at him that it wasn't a stealth mission (despite his detection being 75+ because he carried a Locomotive and R93)
Highlights include:
- New heists (stealing cars, finding out who framed Hoxton)
- New female character, Bonnie (which is sure to set the community on fire once more)
- Weapon mods from the Butcher
The $20 edition also gives you extra, as of yet undisclosed, bonus content.
We'll see I suppose. I may get the $20 pledge around the end of the month when I get paid. Maybe they'll share some more info on what that pledge buys you by then.
Yeah, prolly masks and patterns, guns and the like are stuff they don't want to make all that exclusive, with the exception of a melee weapon you could only get if you bought Alienware or some gak like that.
So, the hype train blah blah blah, €5 contents revealed:
And here's what €20 buys you...
The bigger pack is limited to 50,000 for some reason. Also..
Then there is the secret item…
It is STILL a secret. But here is how it works. YOU will each receive an in-game package from an old friend. Wrapped in true virtual aluminum. Inside is an item randomly given to you from a limited collection of 25 items. It will be rare, it will be a true PAYDAY collectible. Each item is carefully crafted with love and respect for our hardcore OVERKILL supporters. As a thanks to you from us and from the rest of the community for making the Hype Train render so much BONUS content for millions of players standing by. This secret content is still being worked on and is the only content that won't be released during the Spring Break. It will be released when we have given it the care and love that it deserves.
As in, "can take out multiple juggernauts in one shot" powerful.
Yeah, I just ran a rocket launcher/grenade launcher/c4 guy with one of my friends. It was probably the most fun build I've ever played, though I don't think he was enjoying the splash damage.
Minigun is okay in defensive positions, if you use the extended barrel and don't use the concealment kit. Examples being the vault at big bank, the stairs in the first mission of rats, etc.
It needs accuracy, or its spread's too high, and stability isn't a huge problem when fired in short bursts.
well it took all of less than 2 min for me to be completely annoyed with Jacket, the tape recordings sound like garbage and are annoying as hell. They either need to fix them or make an option to let people not allow certain characters in games. If you join my game as Jacket you are getting kicked.
Deathklaat wrote: well it took all of less than 2 min for me to be completely annoyed with Jacket, the tape recordings sound like garbage and are annoying as hell. They either need to fix them or make an option to let people not allow certain characters in games. If you join my game as Jacket you are getting kicked.
I can't help but laughing every time I hear it. I think it's brilliant in how it was done, since he doesn't actually talk in game. The fact that they're bad and scratchy sounding adds to the effect if anything. I mean, have you ever recorded a bunch of stuff through a crappy microphone onto a tape recorder? I'd be annoyed if it sounded clean.
Some say his racing leathers are made from bleached dolphin skin, and that his oily secretions are prized in Chinese medicine. All we know is… he’s called The Tids.
I fear the Car Shop Heist will be a late one, plus they're still working on fixing the SWAT turret, which causes the game to crash if you use trip mines or HE rounds..
I did it on normal solo and I got the stig helmet on normal solo. a group of people makes the driving such a pain, a pair of players could complete it no problems, even rushing.
I haven't tried on any of the harder difficulties yet but the only part I can see other players being helpful is looking for the IT person's name. There is enough time while the PC is hacking to run out and plant C4.
Maybe it's a bug, but if it isn't, I really don't see the use of a saw that may have a silent engine, but still makes screeching noises. Bleh.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also had a look at the new reticules just now, aside from one or two, most of them are quite useless and more of a novelty factor.
Today's thing isn't all that special, though true to form Overkill is getting a lot of gak for it, shame really as what they're doing is quite a nice gesture towards another indy-dev.
Hoxton's Revenge will be out later tonight. You get two new masks: a clean version of Hox's new mask and a pretty sleek riot helmet, should go nicely with the ICTV:
Automatically Appended Next Post: ALSO: Fixed the Silent Motor weapon mod's sound radius and changed it from 35 meters to 7 meters
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Played through the revenge heist twice now, it's a solid one, good for honing those sneaking skills. I'm only disappointed by the unveil of who the rat actually is.
We've seen many of your comments already. At OVERKILL, we are still celebrating. If you've been trying to steal cars in the Car Shop Heist or have been avenging Hoxton all day, this might be news for you. Let me get you in the loop:
We are going to support PAYDAY 2 for two more years!
Yes! We are very excited about this. We love working on PAYDAY 2 and look forward taking care of our game for two more years, making new free updates, paid DLC's and awesome campaigns together with the community. This is possible because we signed a new deal together with our publishing partner 505 games. Thanks to them, we can continue focusing on making PAYDAY 2 better and better.
On behalf of the rest of the crew, thank you everyone for your support through the years! We wouldn't be where we are without you guys! We will honor your support by continue supporting PAYDAY 2 for two more years.
Alright! We have a lot in store for the rest of the year and have no time to rest.
I also like that they've listened to the community with regards to the previous Butcher pack and give you one of each mod from the get-go, so no need to jump through idiotic hoops to get those upgrades unlocked.
Automatically Appended Next Post: What are you looking at melon-fether?
Jobs like Shadowraid and Rats pay out well enough if you go all the way (steal all bags in the first, cook all bags in the second, steal all money from the bus on the last day), same with the X-Mas job from Vlad if you're looking for a quick and fun way to make money.
XP though.. Long multi-day jobs still net you the best XP gains.
If you want to grind cards or specific upgrades, either play short ones like Four Stores and Mall Crashers ad-nauseum or do the daily sidejobs for a chance at an upgrade of your choice.
No problems here so far, it takes some getting used to with the new angles, but so far, pretty neat. Bit miffed that the Signature .40 no longer ejects the clip with a casual flick of the wrist.
Crappy Butcher weapon pack with Western themed weaponry and masks, bleh.
The FREE Meltdown heist where you're required to raid the Blackwater facilities one more time, though this time it's loud and the target is a.. espresso machine? Or is it a snow cone maker? No wait, it's a water heater, right? Also, you can drive forklifts and a muscle car now, though the driving mechanics still suck.
Somewhere along the lines the XP system has also been revamped for free, where you will now be rewarded with bonus XP the more bags you bring along. So grinding the X-Mas heist for coke and toast has suddenly become lucrative in more ways than just beefing up the off-shore account.
The Alesso Heist, which is a fun heist and gives you a new revolver weapon that doesn't suck, yay. Also, boohoohoo, it's an expensive piece of DLC.
Both DLC's are out now. Didn't get the new heister yet, though his rifle does look good.
I did get the new heist, played it twice so far, finishing it once on loud. It's a fun romp that is probably more rewarding if you play it quietly, the map is certainly more forgiving with stealth, though you need to do a shedload of things before you even reach the vault proper.
taser melee wep is the best, bar none. any attack with it tazes ANYTHING but dozers (or shield's shield). Yes, you can get revenge on tasers now, and it stops cloakers kicking if you tase them.
New rifles are amazing. Super high ammo pick up rate (cav has about 2-4 per pick up, 4-6 iirc on the valk), and good damage, valk is also silenced by default. Running with silenced weapons build, both are the new kings of their respective areas (cavity as a dmr, and valk as an AR).
But the best of the best of this update... Grinder perk deck. Getting 48 per second HP regen with it maxed (on top of a 25-30% armor pen for the tans, and 40% more HP), is amazing. with LBV build (75 armor, 2.6 second armor regen) or dodge suit (~35% or so crouched, maxed sneaky) means you retain a decent amount of durability, along with NEVER needing a first aid kit again, and very rarely a med bag. This actually blows every other perk deck out of the water. Combined with the valk or cavity (or any very high ammo pick up weapon), you have pretty much removed needing any meds or ammo.
Eyup, they more or less pissed away a lot of good will and general cheer by starting off the first day with them going the route of CS:GO with handing out unique (not to mention hideous!) skins that give extra buffs and bonuses.
They said in the past they would never do micro-transactions, but I guess the DLC alone wasn't doing it for them.
Second day has given us five new masks, including the tiara! However, they've got a long way to go if they want to make up for that first day bombshell.
Melissia wrote: Well, that went to crap. I'm not sure on the details, but apparently microtransactions are athing now.
yes and no, think TF2/CSGO crates + keys, but without being to buy them anywhere but the steam market (I think). And instead of being just cosmetics, they actually make the gun better.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Okay, gave it a quick go on normal and it's a fun one, it's giving me serious Green Bridge vibe, one of my personal favourites from the first game.
First repeatedly claim that they will not be having microtransactions any time soon despite releasing massively overpriced DLC, then introducing microtransactions.
Uninstalled, will never buy another game of them and encourage others to do so.
While this is breaking an earlier promise, they are not forcing you into doing this. Plus, the safes you get as a reward can be sold on the market place for money, so you're not stuck with them like some items.
I'm not sure where the "PAY TÜ WIN" notion is coming from though, as this is both a cooperative game where all work towards a common goal, plus the game already had hints of this by offering up better gear / upgrades through paid DLC, meaning there was always a sense of "Nyerrrrrrrrr, he's doing more damage than me or has a better thing because he has the *insert DLC pack here* and I don't!"
But, Crimefest is still young and I think it's hilarious how some people react to this. Not cool, sure. But end of the world? Please do grow up child.
Right now it looks like Vlad is going to be the next big thing now that Hector and the Elephant are both out of the way. I do wonder when we'll be seeing more Butcher heists.
Sigvatr wrote: First repeatedly claim that they will not be having microtransactions any time soon despite releasing massively overpriced DLC, then introducing microtransactions.
Uninstalled, will never buy another game of them and encourage others to do so.
That's what you get, greedy moneybags. Enjoying the ratings
More than 20000 negative reviews in ONE DAY, Steam rating has gone from 94% to 83% and Metacritic user rating down to 5.8.
It's gak that this that cause developers to not taking anything gamers say seriously.
Pay Day 2 has consistently had very reasonably priced DLC content, intermixed with regular free updates. It's been an extremely gracious game for players, and everyone's going to throw a raging temper tantrum over this? It's the text book case for "I'm gonna rage because I want to rage."
BrookM wrote: Temper tantrums separate the babies from the adults.
And I'm just saying, this is like deja vu for me harkoning back to the massively dispproportional rage fest over the ME3 ending. I wasn't happy about it either, but jesus people. Taking things so outrageously out of proportion is something children do, and then everyone wonders why game developers treat them like children...
BrookM wrote: Temper tantrums separate the babies from the adults.
And I'm just saying, this is like deja vu for me harkoning back to the massively dispproportional rage fest over the ME3 ending. I wasn't happy about it either, but jesus people. Taking things so outrageously out of proportion is something children do, and then everyone wonders why game developers treat them like children...
Same here, while I'm not happy with this, it's not mandatory, plus Crimefest is still only warming up, who knows what else we'll be getting?
On the bright side, the community will become better for all the rage quits.
Pay Day 2 has consistently had very reasonably priced DLC content, intermixed with regular free updates. It's been an extremely gracious game for players, and everyone's going to throw a raging temper tantrum over this? It's the text book case for "I'm gonna rage because I want to rage."
Are you kidding? "Very reasonably priced"? Are we talking of the same game? Payday 2 has been known for their insanely overpriced DLC with a few low-effort DLC items coming in at 5$ or more. There is not a single other game that has a worse price-effort ratio on the market, even putting Electronic Arts' The Sims to shame.
The Witcher 3 is a prime example for reasonably priced DLC. Actual content for a good price. Overkill on the other hand basically wanted to milk the game's success with a monthly payment of 5$ and now decided to turn 180° on a central point and blatantly lie to their customers. Not a smart idea on a market that's heavily community-driven and they now reap what they have sown. Dropped to 82%.
Okay, smaller update yesterday, but still interesting enough.
* AI can now trade hostages for players in custody, but only if all players are in custody. It's a minor thing, as most people I know play without AI or with a full crew of breathing kleptomaniac donkey-caves.
* Crime.net filter: you can now set up a preferred tactic when setting up a heist, choosing between Plan A (stealth), Plan B (loud) or Plan C (Either way, I don't give a feth). You can also search for servers using that set of criteria.
The Eve devs never removed the microtransactions. They're still there and people still buy them up like hotcakes (judging by how common they are on the market).
There were plans to add P2W microtransactions but the players got wind of it and rioted and now the only microtransactions available are cosmetic looks for your player or ship.
supposedly according to lone wolf (guy who predicted weapon skins + stats + microtransactions), they're doing armor skins today too (same vein as weapon skins, however I wouldn't be surprised if they swapped today with another day to scramble to come up with another idea)
Scramble to come up with another idea? Really? They've had this all done well in advance, so that all they'd have to do it upload it on the relevant day and not have us waiting while they were still working on it.
They should introduce a stamina system where you have 5 "getaway cars" and everytime you play a mission, you lose 1 getaway car. Every hour, you automatically get another getaway car or, if you're out, you can refresh the number of getaway cars by paying 2ish $.
Hire me, now! You'll not only be filithy, but rich!
Let's stick to the topic, and avoid directly comments at each other, m'kay? --Janthkin
So, today we got a new LMG (boring) and a new LMG mod, the bipod!
SACRIFICE MOBILITY TO GAIN MORE POWER! WHEN DEPLOYING THE BIPOD THE LMG HAS ALMOST NO RECOIL AND VERY HIGH ACCURACY, MAKING IT THE PERFECT TOOL FOR COVERING YOUR TEAM AND DEFENDING A POSITION.
THE BIPOD ONLY APPLIES STATS TO THE WEAPON IT'S ATTACHED TO WHEN IT'S DEPLOYED, MEANING YOU DON'T GAIN ANY BENEFIT FROM THE MODIFICATION WHEN IT ISN'T DEPLOYED.
BrookM wrote: Scramble to come up with another idea? Really? They've had this all done well in advance, so that all they'd have to do it upload it on the relevant day and not have us waiting while they were still working on it.
Yes, scramble really, whether I was right or wrong, I don't think even ovk would have been dumb enough to even think of releasing armor skins at this point. And what I said was that IF armor had been the plan, and they removed it, they simply moved another day to today's place (i.e. releasing day 6 on day 5 instead).
What's the % to get a drill? I mean, technically, I could include them into the card draw at a 0.0001% chance and you would be "able" to get them. If it's a fair chance, imma jump back in.
Played First World Bank late last night, it's nice to rampage though that one again. They did change a few things in the layout, but it is stealth friendly at least.
Also, chances are they'll add in more classic maps down the road, here's hoping that Green Bridge also makes the cut at some point.
It was pretty disappointing, and what, half of the "free content" are really patches that should have been in since beta. I mean, ffs a JUMPING animation? cmon.
Almir's AMA is up, and if you were hoping for actual answers, prepare to be disappointed by largely canned response about how they thought the community would LOVE micro transactions.
Also, if anyone wants to refund the completely overkill pack, you can still do it because part of the content was considered a pre-order (content of the safe is more or less confirmed skins btw dataminers)
Their decision makes a lot of sense marketing-wise. Micro-transactions are the most profitable way of earning money in video games by a huge, huge margin. Extremely little effort for a high amount of cash. The time was right too - Payday 2 already is quite old and now that they are remaking existing maps, if you compare similar development cycles in comparable games, the next game isn't too far away. They were well aware of their community realizing that they were a bunch of dirty, money-hungry liars, but if, again, we compare similar events, you only lose out on a one-digit % number of players which, given the insane price policy they rock, could be at about 2-6%. People who invested a lot of money in the game will not quit it. Period. And since you /will/ have invested 80ish+$ as a long-time player, you will most likely stick to the game unless you don't care about the money. People hate buyer's remorse more than anything.
tl;dr: Overkill are, morally, donkey caves but, economically, they made the right decision.
Personally, I've found the event rather disappointing and their choice to implement the safes a bad thing, but I still enjoy the game. I'm glad I didn't purchase the Complete Overkill pack, because if the rumours are true, then I'd feel awfully ripped if it contained a safe and drill.
In the end the only good things from the event, IMHO are..
- Bipod for LMG
- First World Bank & Slaughterhouse maps
I was hoping for the voice overhaul update that Simon Viklund had been hinting at on Twitter for some time now, but alas, I'm guessing they're saving that for another day.
Huh, that does surprise me, but then again, companies have made a 360 on certain choices before.
Makes me wonder what's going to be in the Complete Overkill pack now.
edit.
Nopenopenopenope. You didn't read that right.
The CRIMEFEST safe and drill will be gone in a few days, the normal safe drops will stay.
Their quote:
Please note: the safes and drills as a system are here to stay. It's just the Crimefest safe and drill that will no longer be attainable in-game; another safe and drill series will take its place.
What the hell IS WRONG with Overkill? Just...wow. After the huge backlash when introducing Pay-to-win mechanisms to the game, they create /another/ poopoo-storm.
They now introduced a new safe that contains skins...at random quality and rarity. Pay cash to get random stuff, chance to get complete trash while player B gets a good one. Digital lottery, yay. And the game gets /another/ F2P feature, a "boost" system that increases XP/Cash gain.
As a consequence, Reddit is in a huge uproar again and Overkill's steam moderators went on strike and refuse to keep doing their job in response to Overkill's latest move.
What a bunch of monkeys.
I love that they blame the games press for the huge uproar the last time they did this. Yeah, kill the messenger.
Bigger dickmove is the people who got the Complete Overkill Pack also getting a bunch of free DLC, which they'll no doubt already have to begin with. I mean, if you're going to give them €25 for something unknown, chances are you've already gotten all the DLC up to that point.
Too little, too late for me, I'm afraid. I'm a casual, played in spurts, but I bought 4-packs for my friends. Still, 21 DLC packs bought and 116 hours played. Now they've burnt their bridges with me for any more DLC, any new games, or for Payday 3.
So, new heists (€6,99) and a new character (free). Insert usual whining here.
The Point Break Heists and Bodhi as a playable character will be available on December 3!
www.overkillsoftware.com/games/pointbreak/
The Point Break Heists DLC - $6.99
- 2 new heists - Beneath the Mountain & Birth of Sky
- 10 new achievements - 5 for each heist
- A new pistol secondary weapon
- Four melee weapons
- 6 new songs added- 2 all-new heist themes composed Simon Wiklund, and 4 menu themes from the Point Break soundtrack [http://smarturl.it/PointBreak].
- New contact – Locke
- 4 new masks, patterns and materials
Bodhi Character Pack DLC – FREE
- Bodhi - new playable character
- A new sniper rifle primary weapon
- A new melee weapon
- A new perk deck featuring 9 perks
- 2 new masks
BrookM wrote: Do you need glasses, or are you just being a witch for the sake of it?
4 melee weapons, 1 pistol. Maps can be played by anyone who doesn't need to host, not even mentioning the worthless achievements that seriously get sold as "content".
But you're right, I totally forgot about the masks.
Yeah, I seriously doubt any of the DLC are really worth it, especially when it's something like one char, a weapon, and a perk deck, or a map and maybe two weapons. Or just two weapons, one of which sucks worse than the starting AR.
Again, the character, perk deck, box cutter and sniper rifle are free.
The DLC pack itself comes with the two heists, pistol, four new melee weapons, four new masks and the assorted mask upgrades you usually get.
I've only played the oddly named Birth of Sky heist so far, which is a mixed bag. It starts off great, on board a transport plane in flight, where you have to fight through to reach the cargo bay controls and drop the ramp, presenting a nice, short but fierce CBQ section. Then you parachute out and land in a more familiar map setting with loads of snipers, an annoying "one of the money pallets has fallen apart upon landing, so Locke is going to remind you of this Bain style every two minutes" and a more general "hold out until the chopper can take away the money pallet" thing. The mission ends with a boat ride through the sewers. Strong start, rest is a bit meh, nothing too new sadly aside from the start and skydiving into a town.
Hoping to give Beneath the Mountain a try some time this weekend, though judging from the description it may be Shadowraid on loud.
But, making good use of it to finally do that stealth build I've always wanted! Maybe now I can be more useful when we need to be sneaky-sneaky and stabby-stabby!
