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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
I sure hope they do some town guards or generic soldiers. How are we going to show off how tough the evil mooks are if we don't have a mess of good mooks for them to slaughter?
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Post by: Azreal13
That's as up to date as I can get from KS at the moment.
Happy Alph?
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Post by: wana10
BobtheInquisitor wrote:I am using the Bones 1 giants as gods. The Hill giants just don't work for that. Maybe as Titans or proto-gods... Are they the same size as the Bones 1 giants? They look bigger.
That hill giant is pretty massive. because of the bulk I'd place him at a little bit bigger than the Bones 1 giants
http://www.witchhunter.net/images/norse/giant/barbarian_hill_giant_reaper_jason_wiebe_14205_08.jpg
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Post by: pretre
Hey, want to see something neat? Reaper has uploaded some of the pics for their goals already. So with a bit of cut and paste and guessing at future goals, you can see what they are up to. Warning: Datamined and not on the KS yet.
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Post by: Alpharius
The Giants were some of my favorites last time around...
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Post by: pretre
Okay, only found one more. They may not have all of them up, just enough to not have to keep uploading: Warning: Datamined and not on the KS yet.
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Post by: bbb
pretre wrote:Hey, want to see something neat?
Reaper has uploaded all the pics for their goals already. So with a bit of cut and paste and guessing at future goals, you can see what they are up to:
Good find!
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Post by: Bolognesus
...wow. i'd trade all my BonesOne giants for those in a heartbeat.
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Post by: bbb
hmm...maybe they're only uploaded the next few at a time
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Post by: pretre
bbb wrote:hmm...maybe they're only uploaded the next few at a time
I also think they may have changed the format past 1million. So it may take some digging to find the next batch. And once they know that we know they may change their habits.
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Post by: pretre
Darn.
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Post by: Alpharius
The only thing I like more than Alligator-men is...Turtle-men!
Sweet!
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
You're a man that is full of surprises, Alph.
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Post by: Alpharius
I like Demon Lords too!
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Post by: pretre
I love the paper wings on Orcus.
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Post by: ruff
LMAO I didnt even realize that..
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Post by: Sinful Hero
They'll be so much easier to paint that way.
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Post by: bbb
This is the only one I found after 750k so far:
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Post by: Alpharius
Thanks - I wasn't going to get the Kraken!
Now...
Also, title updated, no thanks to timd.
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Post by: pretre
bbb wrote:This is the only one I found after 750k so far:
Totally ninja'd you a bunch of posts back on that one. I setup an excel file and generate file names.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
bbb wrote:This is the only one I found after 750k so far:

I'm definitely interested in Cubone in the bottom right there. It may actually break 1 mil on the first day. What's the record so far for opening day pledges and pledge total?
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Post by: bbb
So :
710K Demon Lords
750K Chronoscope
858K Swamp Things
Seems there are some gaps in there. Maybe they haven't loaded everything yet.
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Post by: Azreal13
Wow, on a completely different scale than I thought, might well add one "because"
I'm going to add my extras in a few weeks, to avoid constantly having to adjust my pledge, but this one I quite fancy!
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Post by: bbb
pretre wrote: bbb wrote:This is the only one I found after 750k so far:
Totally ninja'd you a bunch of posts back on that one. I setup an excel file and generate file names. 
Darn missed that...
Oh well. I remember last time they were watching Dakka, so I'd think they'll change the naming format, but till we get to 1 million we won't know.
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Post by: ruff
bbb wrote: pretre wrote: bbb wrote:This is the only one I found after 750k so far:
Totally ninja'd you a bunch of posts back on that one. I setup an excel file and generate file names. 
Darn missed that...
Oh well. I remember last time they were watching Dakka, so I'd think they'll change the naming format, but till we get to 1 million we won't know.
I dont think they have time to watch over here yet lol.. Poor Bryan is probably sitting there in total disbelief..
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Post by: Ignatius-Grulgor
Always regretted missing out on bones one due to kickstarter phobia, managed to nab wave 2 didn't realise it was starting so soon.
Really hope Mastema gets the bones treatment as I want to use them for fiends of slaanesh.
Edit: A little disappointed there isn't a sophie with this one at the minute though, hopefully she'll turn up later, don't know how they dealt with her in the first KS as I didn't really follow it.
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Post by: Lovechunks
great BONES! these miniatures rock
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Post by: nkelsch
Lame... They won't allow people to back for just 'add-ons' anymore. So I can't pledge 10$ for mouslings.
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Post by: ironicsilence
nkelsch wrote:Lame... They won't allow people to back for just 'add-ons' anymore. So I can't pledge 10$ for mouslings.
if thats all you want them you need to use the $1 option
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Post by: pretre
ironicsilence wrote:nkelsch wrote:Lame... They won't allow people to back for just 'add-ons' anymore. So I can't pledge 10$ for mouslings.
if thats all you want them you need to use the $1 option
And then put $10 on the next screen.
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Post by: bbb
The $1 option is pledged-out right now. They'll probably add another one with a later shipping date.
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Post by: timd
Hmmm... Might make a great (big) Tyranid hive ship for BFG.
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Post by: Gitkikka
Pledging. Hopefully I can get mine a little sooner than expected, as I live just 20 minutes from Reaper HQ.
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Post by: Alpharius
Chronoscope stuff @ $750K
Automatically Appended Next Post: Dungeon Decor @ $800K:
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Post by: Tamereth
And models like the kraken are bones at it's best. Massive model only $15, and due to the soft nature of the plastic all those tentacles are safe from breaks that in most other materials would be a nightmare.
Can you image having to pin them all in metal, or how fragile there'd be in resin?
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Post by: timd
Bones III is coming....
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Post by: Alpharius
Title updated.
Again, no thanks to timd, who took the time to post in this thread, but not to update it.
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Post by: pretre
Yah, timd! Man up!
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Well I'm in at the moment,
but I'll need to see how the postage eventually works out what I want to get coming to the UK
I know the minis will be a great deal, but with the wastage of stuff I don't actively want and unknown shipping and customs fees (Reaper declaring actual shipped value instead of just the pledge level) it might end up more sensible to pass
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Post by: Forar
Yeah, loving the look of those scenery miniatures.
Could definitely see myself snagging those, the first pack (it's been alluded to that we may be able to get multiples of the pre-packaged stuff, which leads me to think they'll be buyable separately) and perhaps some paint.
Going to wait so I'm not modifying my pledge up and down over the next few weeks, but some assurances on the S&H numbers would go a long way towards alleviating my concerns.
Like, are we going to be talking $5 per add on, a flat starter in the $10 range for time and materials that goes up based on size/weight/distance? Etc.
Just want to know what I'd be getting in for. A glance at Bones 1 indicates that Canadian S&H was free for their larger tier, but presumably with the changes to S&H that went through earlier this year, they probably took a beating on that, so I'm not going to assume it'll be the same this time.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
I think that the intention is non-USA backers will just pay the actual sticker price of the shipping (so no handling); but what that ends up being will depend on what firm they use to do the shipping and what weight the box + add-ons ends up being for each pledger
(we will also be responsible for paying any taxes like VAT in the EU due on the imported goods)
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Post by: scarletsquig
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Well I'm in at the moment,
but I'll need to see how the postage eventually works out what I want to get coming to the UK
I know the minis will be a great deal, but with the wastage of stuff I don't actively want and unknown shipping and customs fees (Reaper declaring actual shipped value instead of just the pledge level) it might end up more sensible to pass
They answered this in the FAQ, value of shipment is being declared as your pledge level + extras, shipping will not be included in the value declaration.
Makes things much easier for me since I know the customs fee will just be £20 or so for the basic $100 pledge. I imagine shipping will be another £20, so I hope to be getting a freaking gigantic pile of minis by the end of this... if that doesn't materialise, I'll drop it.
I think I can use almost all of the minis, I swear it's like they're ticking off entries in the KoW nature and abyssal lists one-by-one... just had lesser abyssals/ gargoyles, centaurs/ slyvan kin, and next up is naiads (fishmen).
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Edit: Posted before doing maths so deleted text
(thanks Scarletsquig)
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Post by: scarletsquig
Agh, that too?
I really don't like customs one bit!
It'll probably cost another $100 in total just to get hold of this thing. I'll definitely see what it looks like towards the end and have another think, but for now camping the first early bird works for me.
Maybe I can ebay stuff I don't want off to make $100 once it arrives? Any bones veterans had luck with this?
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Post by: prankster
Well, I'm in for now. Just need to see what the shipping will be like. Customs shouldn't be too bad though, ~£14 for the VAT on the basic pledge. Of course, all depends on the exchange rate at the time it lands.
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Post by: Forar
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:I think that the intention is non-USA backers will just pay the actual sticker price of the shipping (so no handling); but what that ends up being will depend on what firm they use to do the shipping and what weight the box + add-ons ends up being for each pledger
(we will also be responsible for paying any taxes like VAT in the EU due on the imported goods)
I don't doubt that to be the case.
That doesn't change that I'd like to know *how big that amount is, at least vaguely* before getting too attached to picking up anything in particular.
Context is key, and currently we don't have any.
I can have all the faith in the world that it'll be reasonable, but "reasonable" depends on a lot of variables and can stretch pretty far.
Worst case scenario, I don't like their answer and they get a dollar from me for nothing. Best case, I do and I get to buy some awesome minis and get shipped to in Wave 2, which looks like it'll practically be the front of the line by the time this is all done.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Yeah, even a guestimate for RoW shipping for the basic core set would be a good guide.
I also wish that furniture pack was a treat and not an option!
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
No, you were right,
you'd already got the 'collecting fee' figured into your rough estimate of £20 on a $100 pledge
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Post by: pretre
Agh, they definitely got wise to us. No more pics between 858 and 1 mil.
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Post by: scarletsquig
Looks like someone has already done a pledge calculator with a running total mini count (132 so far!):
http://duelgrounds.com/
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Post by: DiabolicAl
scarletsquig wrote:Agh, that too?
I really don't like customs one bit!
It'll probably cost another $100 in total just to get hold of this thing. I'll definitely see what it looks like towards the end and have another think, but for now camping the first early bird works for me.
Maybe I can ebay stuff I don't want off to make $100 once it arrives? Any bones veterans had luck with this?
You'd better believe it. I'm awaiting my customs charges but i'm guessing around 80 quid. Its going to hurt. And that was with Reaper putting the vampire pledge amount on the consignment. HMRC just didn't believe the figure so demanded my credit card statement.
The shipping on this KS is the one thing that might get me to drop my pledge no matter how nice the stuff is.
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Post by: edlowe
DiabolicAl wrote: scarletsquig wrote:Agh, that too?
I really don't like customs one bit!
It'll probably cost another $100 in total just to get hold of this thing. I'll definitely see what it looks like towards the end and have another think, but for now camping the first early bird works for me.
Maybe I can ebay stuff I don't want off to make $100 once it arrives? Any bones veterans had luck with this?
You'd better believe it. I'm awaiting my customs charges but i'm guessing around 80 quid. Its going to hurt. And that was with Reaper putting the vampire pledge amount on the consignment. HMRC just didn't believe the figure so demanded my credit card statement.
The shipping on this KS is the one thing that might get me to drop my pledge no matter how nice the stuff is.
Being my first ks from across the pond where ive got to pay these things makes me reconsider my pledge. It'll have to be a really good deal by the end to make it worth it to me, especially since im eyeing up two other ks at the mo. I really want those vampires for kow tho, along with that dragon.
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Post by: ruff
DiabolicAl wrote: scarletsquig wrote:Agh, that too?
I really don't like customs one bit!
It'll probably cost another $100 in total just to get hold of this thing. I'll definitely see what it looks like towards the end and have another think, but for now camping the first early bird works for me.
Maybe I can ebay stuff I don't want off to make $100 once it arrives? Any bones veterans had luck with this?
You'd better believe it. I'm awaiting my customs charges but i'm guessing around 80 quid. Its going to hurt. And that was with Reaper putting the vampire pledge amount on the consignment. HMRC just didn't believe the figure so demanded my credit card statement.
The shipping on this KS is the one thing that might get me to drop my pledge no matter how nice the stuff is.
Every UK started KS does the same thing to US customers.. They charge what the shipping is.. With our dollar being lower than your that only compounds the reason I don't back non US kickstarters.. It sucks but its a valid reason.. Shipping anything is murder when it leaves the borders..
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Post by: RoninXiC
Distance between Stretchgoals is now $50,000 :(
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Post by: pretre
Or more. This thing will be huge. Don't begrudge them recouping costs.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Oh it'll be worth while,
and even with (accurate) customs charges and actual shipping a lot cheaper than getting them retail in the UK/Europe
the question will be is how much of the box is 'stuff you've got to ebay or it will sit in a box unloved forever'
last time I only needed about 15% to be 'good' for me to be happy to back, this time I suspect it will probably have to be about 30%
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Post by: pretre
Heh. I don't even need that much. My kids love the bones and they are minis that I'm not afraid they are going to break. Any that I don't want, they can have.
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Post by: Aerethan
Backed. I'm finally not poor enough to miss out on this!!!
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
Right now I have the metal and resin Kraken sitting in the box still. It fits well, but it is HUGE. The body is about 8" long and each of the tentacles are a good 7 or 8 inches long. Balancing is a trick that I hadnt gotten around to yet, but in Bones...it will be perfect.
Add into that the hill giant who is swinging the tree trunk (that trunk is about 3 1/2" long) and you have another great figure in Bones which in metal is not optimal (though an imposing paper weight...or even door stop).
I am pretty sure that justifying a few hundred dollars on this wont be too hard.
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Post by: cincydooley
Serious question: are most of you buying in because of the deal you're getting, or because of the quality of the minis?
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Post by: RiTides
Don't worry timd, I feel your pain  . Alpharius likes his pictures!
(Personally I'm not too fussed either way, particularly since pretre was able to find some of the future stretches before they were hit- thanks pretre!)
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Post by: overtyrant
I believe my customs on the last bones was 30 quid (that included handling fees) I had vampirs lvl plus 4 big guys and other stuff. This is one of the rare US KS I don't complain about P&P + customs due to the sheer value of the product im getting!
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Post by: ced1106
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:I know the minis will be a great deal, but with the wastage of stuff I don't actively want and unknown shipping and customs fees (Reaper declaring actual shipped value instead of just the pledge level) it might end up more sensible to pass
That's not a bad idea. These "bulk purchase" miniature KS are good for the creators, but not for some miniatures buyers. If you buy enough KS1 Bones and Reaper miniatures from their online store during their "12 Days of Reaper" special event, you'll not only get free shipping, but also a free limited edition figure and sample paint!
As for multiples, I'm noticing that Reaper's having more of them, which is *good* for wargamers who want to add these units for armies. So far, they're only including groups of monsters that could be used in both RPGs and wargames (viz. no dwarf or elf squads).
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
cincydooley wrote:Serious question: are most of you buying in because of the deal you're getting, or because of the quality of the minis?
Honestly, quality.
For the large stuff that I will end up using, Bones is a great material and the level of detail is really close to the metal versions. If you are mainly after smaller items, than the material may not be ideal when compared to metal (or you might have swords which are too bendy for your own tastes) but in many cases I have to look rather close to see differences between painted Bones and painted metal.
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Post by: edlowe
cincydooley wrote:Serious question: are most of you buying in because of the deal you're getting, or because of the quality of the minis?
To be honezt I jumped on an earlybird 1 due to the hype of what a good deal the figures were. Looking now theres probably 60/70% of the core package Im not interested in. Deciding wether to drop down to the min pledge for the addons I do like or wether to jump in on a darklands ks sweet spot deal
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Post by: RiTides
Cincy- for the vaaaaaaaaast majority of pledgers, it's the deal.
I was just talking with Wehrkind, who does casting and got the Bones 1 set. He likes them, but they are like toy dinosaurs. Sweet for some things, but you have to be honest about what you're getting. These are not hand-cast resin or hard-tooled polystyrene models.
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Post by: ced1106
cincydooley wrote:Serious question: are most of you buying in because of the deal you're getting, or because of the quality of the minis?
Deal. But I'm a new painter and am an RPG'er without a regular group, so I'm buying these to improve my painting skills and have "just in case" for an RPG session (uh, huh). It's just easier for me to make a bulk purchase than pick and choose before I buy.
BUT I WANT THAT KRAKEN I DON'T KNOW WHY I JUST WANT IT THOSE MOUSLINGS TOO SQUEEEEE.
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Post by: Azreal13
Customs charges are easy to calculate for the UK under most circumstances, it's the VAT on the declared value +£8 handling charge for the Post Office.
Assuming it gets picked up of course, I'm running about 33% pick up rate, but that's on a relatively small number of parcels (<10 that I can recall)
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Post by: czakk
cincydooley wrote:Serious question: are most of you buying in because of the deal you're getting, or because of the quality of the minis?
Bit of both - the price is right, and the quality is acceptable.
Actually, as an RPG-er with a small child, the material is exactly what I need. They don't break and they aren't sharp.
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Post by: nkelsch
Also, all the mouslings seem to be new sculpts... for those interested in those models. I enjoy them.
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Post by: DiabolicAl
azreal13 wrote:Customs charges are easy to calculate for the UK under most circumstances, it's the VAT on the declared value +£8 handling charge for the Post Office.
Assuming it gets picked up of course, I'm running about 33% pick up rate, but that's on a relatively small number of parcels (<10 that I can recall)
There is also an additional customs handling fee (the £8 is just Royal Mail) on anything above £135.00 although apparently this gets waived if the fee is under £9. Ive no idea how this extra fee is calculated but it is on top of VAT.
Should have my final charges through any day now. Bracing myself. But i want my BONES! Automatically Appended Next Post: One thing i do wish they would put up is a zoomable pic. I'd like to see some of the sculpts a bit closer.
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Post by: Sasori
Just backed bones 2. It's a no brainer, and I will not miss out like I did the first time.
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Post by: augustus5
cincydooley wrote:Serious question: are most of you buying in because of the deal you're getting, or because of the quality of the minis?
I'm getting in for a combination of both. I've long been a fan of Reaper minis for use mainly in Pathfinder/ DnD, and the quality is fantastic in my opinion. But the deal you get with the $100 pledge as well as the add-ons is too good to pass up.
I didn't really pay attention to Bones I, but I will not let this one pass.
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Post by: Azreal13
DiabolicAl wrote: azreal13 wrote:Customs charges are easy to calculate for the UK under most circumstances, it's the VAT on the declared value +£8 handling charge for the Post Office.
Assuming it gets picked up of course, I'm running about 33% pick up rate, but that's on a relatively small number of parcels (<10 that I can recall)
There is also an additional customs handling fee (the £8 is just Royal Mail) on anything above £135.00 although apparently this gets waived if the fee is under £9. Ive no idea how this extra fee is calculated but it is on top of VAT.
Should have my final charges through any day now. Bracing myself. But i want my BONES!
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One thing i do wish they would put up is a zoomable pic. I'd like to see some of the sculpts a bit closer.
Well, the way the dollar is getting its arse kicked at the moment, £135 will buy a lot of Bones!
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
cincydooley wrote:Serious question: are most of you buying in because of the deal you're getting, or because of the quality of the minis?
Both?
I love working with Bones. It's easily my second-favorite medium for minis. Most of the minis from the first KS had great detail and look just about as good as the original metals. There were a few horrifying exceptions, however.
As for the deal, I've painted more minis (mostly Bones) since my Kickstarter arrived than in the last 6 years combined. My wife is excited about painting minis again, too. I also got my nephews into painting minis by giving them a bunch of minis that I already had in metal or just didn't want as much as they did. There's a lot to be said for buying a good, cheap bucket of minis.
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Post by: Azreal13
Anyone clearer than me on whether the expansions are only to core set pledges or can be added to the $1 pledge?
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
The stone giant is a good 3 1/2" to the top of his head, not to mention all the rest of the stuff in that grouping. Looks like it is going to be the $150 or so in order to help prevent run away costs on with too many freebies. Will be interesting to see how it is split up going forward (if more things get added to the regular core or if they have a price per figure number they dont want to drop below.
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Post by: Sasori
Wow. Not even ten minutes later I have to add another 50$ to my pledge...
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Post by: scarletsquig
The expansions aren't bad, but it would be nicer to have seen them be more themed... e.g. undead expansion, monsters expansion, wild critters expansion, sci-fi expansion etc.
Seems like a random bundle of minis at the moment.
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Post by: adhuin
Edit: Removed premature complaining. Remembering to read updates first.
What are those small critters under the dragon?
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
azreal13 wrote:Anyone clearer than me on whether the expansions are only to core set pledges or can be added to the $1 pledge?
Creator Reaper Miniatures 9 minutes ago
@Enos - Yes.
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Post by: Azreal13
Sean_OBrien wrote: azreal13 wrote:Anyone clearer than me on whether the expansions are only to core set pledges or can be added to the $1 pledge?
Creator Reaper Miniatures 9 minutes ago
@Enos - Yes.
To which?!
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
While I tend to agree, and have heard more will be clustered down the road, Reaper is largely a very random bundle of miniatures. No company still in operation has the same size back catalog of random everything from alien strippers to a Zombie Hitler to Mouslings...it is all very random. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Enos asked if that could be added to the $1 as an option, Bryan said yes.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
So far I'm not too terribly interested in the expansion. I think I'll wait until one or two more are unlocked before I up my pledge another $50 for it.
As to whether I bought in for value or aesthetics... Both. If they all looked poor, I wouldn't buy in; if there wasn't enough I wouldn't either. I think that is probably how the majority of backers feel- there's a happy medium that reaper has found to draw in pledges.
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
adhuin wrote:Edit: Removed premature complaining. Remembering to read updates first.
What are those small critters under the dragon?
The derro? Evil dwarf types.
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/derro/sku-down/02945
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/derro/sku-down/02944
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Post by: Bolognesus
RiTides wrote:Cincy- for the vaaaaaaaaast majority of pledgers, it's the deal. I was just talking with Wehrkind, who does casting and got the Bones 1 set. He likes them, but they are like toy dinosaurs. Sweet for some things, but you have to be honest about what you're getting. These are not hand-cast resin or hard-tooled polystyrene models. The small stuff isn't up to the same level as more traditionally produced minis, but for the bigger monsters it can come pretty damn close. I know I've seen metal dragons etc. that weren't half as nice as some of these larger bones monsters (pathfinder red dragon is pretty damn good, for example). Will be a difference if you paint to very exacting standards but if you're going for the better end of tabletop they're nothing short of a dream come true, IMO. Certainly not comparable to any of the plastic dinos I've seen around here. ...and yes, I'm backing for the quality of the larger stuff in particular, in case anyone's still wondering
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Post by: DiabolicAl
Fingers crossed this isnt the end of the 'purple and orange' updates. Not quite enough i like in the $50 to grab me right now.
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Post by: nkelsch
Ohhh they added more 1$ pledges! thanks! they are going fast!
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Post by: Bolognesus
Reaper Bryan confirmed this is not the end of inclusions into the main pledge level.
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
DiabolicAl wrote:Fingers crossed this isnt the end of the 'purple and orange' updates. Not quite enough i like in the $50 to grab me right now.
Creator Reaper Miniatures 15 minutes ago
@Keven - it was actually because we used up almost every planned stretch goal last time, and were worried that we might have more success this time - and we'd need ot save those levels, set the prices lower but don't give too much away too fast or eventually you can;t give anything else away... and nobody wants to see the purple levels stop coming
________
In short, no, that is not the end of the base package freebies. I am on the phone right now with a Reaper staffer and they will be adding optional buyins on the way up in addition to the core level. Each of those options will be handled like a mini KS campaign within the bigger campaign, with their own stretch goals. He wont tell me how many they have planned, but more than two is what I have been told.
So, basically in order to help shorten the distance between update goals (so people dont start moaning about a $250k stretch goal), they put in the Expansion. The stretch goals for the expansions can be put in between the stretch goals for the freebies on the base package and the buyin options so that it isnt so far between updates.
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Post by: DiabolicAl
Cheers for that, its crazy to think its already got to this and it's not even been going for 24hours!
At this stage i'd be happy with the core pledge, Hill Giants and Kraken so lets see what lies ahead.
Reaper? Do your worst!
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
DiabolicAl wrote:Cheers for that, its crazy to think its already got to this and it's not even been going for 24hours!
At this stage i'd be happy with the core pledge, Hill Giants and Kraken so lets see what lies ahead.
Reaper? Do your worst!
Heck, it hasnt even been 12 hours...
Would be nice to see $1.7 million or so in the first 24 hours. That is the current first day record held by the elevation iThing dock.
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Post by: edlowe
Those hill giants do look good, are there any scale shots out there? Wondering just how big they are.
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
edlowe wrote:Those hill giants do look good, are there any scale shots out there? Wondering just how big they are.
Plenty, to be sure. Reaper's site is actually pretty good for getting an idea on sizes.
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/hill%20giant/sku-down/14205
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/hill%20giant/sku-down/03239
Under most figures you can find their parts, and those have a little ruler thing next to them so you can see the size. Once you have the name, you can pretty quickly Google a picture or two if you want to see them compared next to other figures, though entirely new figures cant be tracked down in that way.
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Post by: edlowe
Cheers Sean, theres a hell of alot of figures on their site to wade through.
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
Yep, somewhere around 4,000 or so SKUs which are still produced. If you have a question though, feel free to ask, and I am sure you will get an answer pretty quickly. There are a lot of people who are fairly familiar with Reapers catalog, and I am sure we will see "support" pages pop up in the near future with links to the metal versions of miniatures. Today things have been moving a bit too fast for serious effort to be made on that front as as soon as it is posted, it is missing a level of goals.
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Post by: czakk
edlowe wrote:Those hill giants do look good, are there any scale shots out there? Wondering just how big they are.
Here's a pic of Tre's giant next to one of his reaper black orcs (from this thread http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=46383.0):
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Post by: Adder Ant
got my part of the cake!
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Post by: Azazelx
highlord tamburlaine wrote:Those new heroes with the removable bases are an interesting idea.
I wonder if they're going to just use basic slotta tabs. Might be able to stick any old figure on there. Maybe we'll see more bases available later on as well.
Just got up, so I expect this may have already been answered overnight. - Those are the original metal models shown. The Bones versions will have integrated plastic bases.
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Post by: Bolognesus
...Damn. and here I was, all happy with the idea of not having to dremel all those F'in bases off...
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
Azazelx wrote: highlord tamburlaine wrote:Those new heroes with the removable bases are an interesting idea.
I wonder if they're going to just use basic slotta tabs. Might be able to stick any old figure on there. Maybe we'll see more bases available later on as well.
Just got up, so I expect this may have already been answered overnight. - Those are the original metal models shown. The Bones versions will have integrated plastic bases.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-ii-the-return-of-mr-bones/posts/615184
Detachable on those.
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Post by: GrimDork
So I totally, 100% missed out on the last bones KS, and haven't bought anything from Reaper in years (except for paint). These bones minis, what are they made of? I know it says plastic... but do they say plastic and mean that flexible rubbery white stuff? I'm assuming a lot of you have the minis from the last one, do you like the material?
Also, since I didn't see the last one... The $100 pledge, is that everything in the first really long blue section, that is, everything before the options? If so, already looking pretty stellar.
Thanks, I may have to throw down on this one
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Post by: DiabolicAl
Dragons! Everybody loves dragons right?
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
Automatically Appended Next Post: GrimDork wrote:So I totally, 100% missed out on the last bones KS, and haven't bought anything from Reaper in years (except for paint). These bones minis, what are they made of? I know it says plastic... but do they say plastic and mean that flexible rubbery white stuff? I'm assuming a lot of you have the minis from the last one, do you like the material?
Also, since I didn't see the last one... The $100 pledge, is that everything in the first really long blue section, that is, everything before the options? If so, already looking pretty stellar.
Thanks, I may have to throw down on this one 
The plastic is PVC. The nature of the plastic depends on the mold, in order to allow for some undercuts, most are more flexible than HIPS, but some are as rigid or more so (see the clockwork dragon).
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Post by: Aerethan
I've got 2 real reasons for buying in:
1. The value per model. It's not that I'll ever use 90% of what is included. But the fact that models last round came in under $.50ea means that when my son who is 6 asks to paint with me, I have no shortage of cheap models that I don't NEED for him to practice on. That bonding time is worth every penny and more.
2. My own practice. These bundles have all manner of models in them, and for lots of them I see potential to try out new techniques that I'd rather not try on more expensive GW models right off the bat.
Some of the models I want, some I'll pay extra for, but those 2 reasons are worth the $100 easily.
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Post by: DiabolicAl
Ooo, i forgot i was getting 2 x clockwork dragons!!
thanks Sean, that has actually made these customs charges a little easier to take...
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Post by: GrimDork
Yeah, if this is what it looks like day 1, I'm gonna have to throw the $100 at them.
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
DiabolicAl wrote:Ooo, i forgot i was getting 2 x clockwork dragons!!
thanks Sean, that has actually made these customs charges a little easier to take...
I think that is actually my favorite figure in the past 10 years or so. Very simple but so very versatile. I have converted all of them that I got in the KS, and have since ordered 4 more.
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Post by: GrimDork
Dag, that $100 was way too easy to spend. I'll have to dig through the options later, this is exciting right
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Post by: ruff
I so want the blightfang dragon..
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Post by: Aerethan
We don't pick our addons until the pledge manager comes out correct? I've already got things to add to mine.
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Post by: Bolognesus
Aerethan wrote:We don't pick our addons until the pledge manager comes out correct? I've already got things to add to mine.
No, but we do (preferably) add the cash for them already, now.
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
Aerethan wrote:We don't pick our addons until the pledge manager comes out correct? I've already got things to add to mine.
You pledge to cover your options, and then select them later.
I tossed $300 at it earlier today, but I dont think I have $300 in options quite yet.
If you wanted to get just two or three of the $10 options, you would back at the $1 level and then add $20 or $30 to your pledge on the next screen. Later on, you can increase your pledge (or decrease if need be). However, you do want to have your pledge in now as that is what moves it forward.
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Post by: Aerethan
I see. So I can add like $50 to my current 100 and that increases the whole thing, and gives me that credit towards options at the end?
Can that overage be lowered should I decide at the end I don't want(for example) $50 worth of add ons?
And lastly, the add on amount won't be charged until the last day of the KS correct?
Please forgive me as this is my whopping second KS I've backed, and I didn't have any add on items for the SWM table I ordered.
Just want all my bases covered(no one likes blank bases  )
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Post by: cincydooley
Where are the Mouselings ? My wife loves them and they'd be the only real reason for me to back. I have a few of the models from the first one, all larger, and I like them mostly, but don't need a ton of models that aren't like, fantastic as I'm not an RPGer.
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Post by: Azreal13
cincydooley wrote:Where are the Mouselings ? My wife loves them and they'd be the only real reason for me to back. I have a few of the models from the first one, all larger, and I like them mostly, but don't need a ton of models that aren't like, fantastic as I'm not an RPGer.
They were the first add on, for just $10!
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
Correct all around...though you dont get charged till the end for anything, options or otherwise. If you decide to, you can completely back out.
Some people (myself) like to go ahead and throw what we think we will spend at the KS campaign right away. Others buy in at the minimum amount and wait. Still others will increase there pledge by the amount they need to cover the options they want when they are revealed or met.
Although it is largely preference, there is a common good purpose to putting your best pledge forward early on. More pledged dollars reveals more goals and more freebies which ultimately will pull more people off the fence.
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Post by: cincydooley
azreal13 wrote: cincydooley wrote:Where are the Mouselings ? My wife loves them and they'd be the only real reason for me to back. I have a few of the models from the first one, all larger, and I like them mostly, but don't need a ton of models that aren't like, fantastic as I'm not an RPGer.
They were the first add on, for just $10!
Just saw. I have no idea how I missed those. I may have to go in just for them.
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Post by: Azazelx
cincydooley wrote:Serious question: are most of you buying in because of the deal you're getting, or because of the quality of the minis?
I consider the quality good enough. For the most part, I consider them better quality than many of Mantic's KoW figures. They provide me with a wide range of figures for Role-Playing Games and Fantasy Boardgames (Ravenloft, et al), and now that I've become interested in Fantasy Battles again via Kings of War, with it's robust "Counts-As" system, it's a good way to get interesting larger monsters at a tiny fraction of what they would cost from GW or any other sources. Additionally, they're so cheap that I can go to town on painting them in different styles and experimenting using different methods, while still having plenty of figures to use while teaching my wife to paint. I'm also likely to pick up Song of Blades and Heroes this week, so I'll give some Warbands with Bones a try. I don't know how well this will all work, due to giant miniatures backlog, and the fact that I've still really only had my Bones 1 arrive, so I haven't had a chance to do anything with them yet...
So, the answer really is both. One wouldn't get me to pledge without the other.
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Post by: Krinsath
Aerethan wrote:I see. So I can add like $50 to my current 100 and that increases the whole thing, and gives me that credit towards options at the end?
Can that overage be lowered should I decide at the end I don't want(for example) $50 worth of add ons?
And lastly, the add on amount won't be charged until the last day of the KS correct?
Please forgive me as this is my whopping second KS I've backed, and I didn't have any add on items for the SWM table I ordered.
Just want all my bases covered(no one likes blank bases  )
1) Yes.
2) No, but until the KickStarter closes you are free to adjust it back down. So on the last day if you look and don't see more than $125 in options you can decrease accordingly.
3) Correct, no money will be charged until the KS closes.
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Post by: judgedoug
Azazelx wrote: and now that I've become interested in Fantasy Battles again via Kings of War, with it's robust "Counts-As" system, it's a good way to get interesting larger monsters at a tiny fraction of what they would cost from GW or any other sources.
and that $1million stretch goal of tiny dragons... looks like perfect Drakon replacements to me!
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Post by: Azazelx
Bolognesus wrote:Reaper Bryan confirmed this is not the end of inclusions into the main pledge level.
Well, we're less than 24 hours in so far. It's not like we're in the last 24 hours...
There are some things I'm not super-pumped about, but seeing as how we're less than 12 hours in, I'll try to save my complaining for about 3 weeks.
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Post by: nkelsch
Azazelx wrote:
So, the answer really is both. One wouldn't get me to pledge without the other.
Yeah, if the sculpts were bad, the casts were bad, the material was bad, they could be dirt cheap and I wouldn't buy them.
Bones 1 had great sculpts, great casts and good materials. Makes me willing to give reaper more money.
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Post by: Aerethan
Thank you all for the help. Went ahead and doubled down to $200 for now.
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Post by: Azazelx
Oh!
I stand corrected. Good find.
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
Just for clarity, it is just that set of figures, most come with an integral plastic base, which on Bones is very easy to slice off.
BTW, a Mod or the OP might consider updating the title and maybe first post for the thread.
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Bones II at $890K, Expansion Option at $925K, Dragons at $1 million
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Post by: ironicsilence
Or you could just create a new thread and manage it!
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
That is too much work...plus, isnt the whole new thread...existing thread faux pax?
Anyway...for those who havent seen the video, take a look at it and look at the bottom left corner at around 1:25.
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Seriously though, if it isnt breaking the rules, I can go ahead and do as much...though between sleep and other things it might fall behind during the days.
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Post by: Gymnogyps
Yeah, I saw that thing in the lower left, Sean. What do you think it is? Terrain? Terrain would be so awesome...
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Post by: czakk
Looks like terrain to me. They got a lot of positive feedback about Kaladrax's base....
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Post by: highlord tamburlaine
The corner thing definitely looked like it was meant for a diorama or something.
My daughter said it was a playset for all the fighting girls and princesses she's getting.
The best thing about the Bones figures is they look decent painted up, and I don't get chewed out for buying a figure or two for the kids to mess with.
When this stuff comes in next fall we are going to have a CRAY ZAY Song of Blades and Heroes campaign going on. I will find some way to include all this stuff.
Bones will be fighting my flying baby, nekkid lady, masochistic pig man party time warbands from Wrath of Kings in about a year!
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Post by: Hulksmash
The way I see it is if there are 50 models I like out of the entire basic pledge by the end of this it's worth it. And we're currently sitting around 35 or so. So I'm good with this.
Also I'll be throwing in on the extra dragons and hill giants so far. And maybe one or two of the other options.
Basically I want to like enough of the smaller models to get them $2 each. And the big ones all seem solid enough at the price point provided. Maybe even dirt cheap!
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Post by: ironicsilence
almost at 1M in the first day, not to bad
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
12 hours, 8 minutes...
$921,446 pledged.
That is not bad at all. Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW - the mini only options (not cases and paints) are at $294 for 203 miniatures.
The core is 138 miniatures for $100.
http://duelgrounds.com/
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Post by: Hulksmash
Yeah, it's a pretty insane start. Finally starting to slow down but it's still incredible.
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
I think some Nurgle players might be pleased.
Also...
One more thing - A lot of you are still pledging and watching through the wee hours of the night, but we've had a really exciting day, raising so much in such a short amount of time, and we're going to be shutting off the lights here at the factory and getting some rest.
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Post by: Sasori
Whelp, I'm at 260 on the first day. This is sad.
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Post by: Alpharius
That would be up to the OP or, if they are unable or unwilling, some other volunteer.
So - are there any takers?
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Post by: greywulf
So they're not going to find a local distributor in Canada this time? I have no problem paying shipping fees but customs is a whole other thing.
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Post by: Sasori
Alpharius wrote:
That would be up to the OP or, if they are unable or unwilling, some other volunteer.
So - are there any takers?
I volunteer Sean.  He's been pretty much impeccable with those updates. Thanks to him, I've been spending more money...
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
What the heck - it is a shorter campaign anyway...only 24 more days to go:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/555546.page#6107779
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Post by: Alpharius
Excellent!
See that one there for the continuing discussion!
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