Ooooh I have 3 lucky clouds :-) they're more likely to destroy a city though.

Brilliant thread - made my evening to read it. I hope to see it all finished some day! Cutting up a realm of battle city board to make big buildings is the idea of the year.

Thanks kestral! I just cut a bunch more sidewalk out to finish the monorail track. Hopefully I’ll put it up this weekend if I get some help.

Here’s a new model I’m working on. A sentinal without a cockpit. Setting it up as more of a mech suit hopefully.



Plan to run a lot of these in my planetary guard army. Thought they would be good considering their size. I can get them into a lot more areas than a tank would ever fit.

Is the flamer to Big? Is that a good weapon option? Scout or armored versions?

POWERLOADER! And yes, the flamer is too big, sorry. : )

 btoliver311 wrote:
So this leather punch I got to make rivits is a pain



Every single one gets stuck in its barrel and I have to pop it out with a safety pin. Which is not so easy

I dunno if it's too late, but if you break open a Britta filter, it's full of thousands of little rivet size balls.

 kestral wrote:
And yes, the flamer is too big, sorry. : )

HERESY!!!! NO FLAMER IS TOO BIG!

Success!

We are making clean casts again. The issue was pinpointed down to the cleaning agent. I was using water and dish soap to clean my molds. I guess that’s a really bad thing as the rubber absorbed the water and reacted with the resin. Anyhow, after a couple hours this morning Using the 10 minute pot life mix and the injectors I have approx 30 more rouge trader imperial guard torsos.



And using the faster mix I have the pieces I need to complete the blown up bridge



And some more prices for my monorail cars

 btoliver311 wrote:
So this leather punch I got to make rivits is a pain



Every single one gets stuck in its barrel and I have to pop it out with a safety pin. Which is not so easy

Don't pop them out, just keep punchin' them until they start pouring out from the back.

Nail art and scrapbooking halfbeads are good options too.

Awesome work!

Went back to the the pistol barrels from the Adeptus Mechanicus Ironstrider for my heirloom las riffles. Much better but hard to find bits for. It’s a pain but I’ll have to try and cast these too.

The WIP mech suit (aka power loader) is coming together too. Needs the cage, tons of green stuff for the arm mechanics, and well, a lot more everything. The smaller flame thrower is a lot easier. The big one would have had to be two handed and much harder to figure out.



in front you’ll also see the beginnings of two more auxiliary squads

Great work! I love the PDF guys- its always great to see home-brew IG regiments.

Well these were going to be shots of me working on the monorail track but they turned out just showing how messy my work area is.





And a picture of the additional monorail pieces where they will eventually go.

It's coming along nicely, you've got until the end of the month to finish then everyone is coming around to your place to play Necromunda on it

Thanks, I think it would be a fun table for Necromunda too but that’s certainly not what I built it for. Hoping games will generally fall into 2 parts. 1) seige and 2) normal or city fight with each army starting on opposite sides of the canal.

Speaking of, I got a little more work done on two of the bridges.



And the start of the destroyed bridge

I just got some cloaks from www.victoriaminiatures.com and Was hoping to have all my planetary guard wearing some sort of cloak or cape. Kind of like a Roman soldier or something. I couldn’t find any thing that worked in the GW range. They are also kind of needed/helpful in hiding the neck area of the rouge trader torso casts because I had to carve those necks and heads out before creating the molds. What do you think? Cool idea? Not so much? If so what color should the be? Deep red like romans or more muted like a rain or camo cloak?

I love them. You could even add a short sword to make them look even more roman. There are plenty of combat knives you could use in the CSM box.

Thanks ember. Swords would help for sure

Here’s Some progress on my mech

Outstanding. Wonderful, spectacular work! I wish I had the time and resources to do this kind of thing.

Pretty insane to build that board and a custom IG army at the same time. Great work

Your city guard are really coming along nicely dude I actually quite like the hybrid Skitarii/lasguns. certainly the last one with the slightly extended Skitarii barrel and the lasgun muzzle.

Also, watching with extreme interest for your syringe DIY injection moulding. That's a really clever solution, and it's always something I've really hoped would be within amateur reach but not seen much of so far.

Is the plan with plastic or resin?

Thanks wraith,

The product i work with is a simple 2 part resin called smooth cast 300.

https://www.reynoldsam.com/product/smooth-cast-300/

It’s supposed to be for beginners but i still seem to have a fair amount of mistakes.

The injector syringes work great though. Definently as far as i think my skills will take me. Pressure and vacume are just too advanced and costly. You should try it.

I also moved away from 2 part molds and am just trying to do deeper one sided for my torsos and weapons. Works fine with the syringes and using a paper clip to stir the bubbles out before it sets

In regards to lliu and Illumini’s comments. I wish i had the time too and taking on both the guard and the city might have been a bit much with the new kiddo.in the house.

Came up an idea for our Leman Russ ragnarok but I️ need to get a size comparison





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I feel you. I tried making stairs out of resin once and it screwed me over so bad.

Yeah, i did a ton of the ressin ones but based off a one sided mold where the sides were the pour opening. I know better now and would build a mold from the bottom but don’t know if i care to go through it all again. If kirkee is cool with the styrofoam I’m noticing on

Super impressive.. good luck getting it finished !

Hey guys,

Long time. Im still working on the board and the custom army. Going to try and post some updated pictures over the next couple of days. First a little work on the cathedral







And a look at the canal with the bridges in

Damn. I would love to play on this gorgeous board but I don't have the time to make one. Fantastic work, as always!

It's back! Nice job on the bridges, they should make for some awesome games.

Photo drop.

A lot of this you’ve seen but there’s some new stuff and these photos are better.

First I finally got some help and we now have a much better staircase designer



Next is just another angle on the courtyard



This third and fourth photo are from a new tunnel we added that goes from one of the man bridges and connects to the original tunnel under the destroyed forgeworld buildings





Here’s another courtyard on the other side of that tunnel but I think we are planning to add another building here. You’ll also see another tunnel entrance that goes into the catacombs under the cathedral. And more stairs of course



Here’s the starting layout for the catacombs or whatever you want to call the large area under the cathedral.



And lastly another picture of the landing tower and factory

Well this is just beyond amazing.

I mean, it was beyond amazing when you started, but there's only so many superlatives you can use!

It looks like a combination of Rome and a modern city center, in other words: PERFECT!

 btoliver311 wrote:
Ding ding ding!

The monorail will go across the length of the board. From outside the city wall, through the manufactorum, across the river and to the landing tower.

I think they engine/cab is going to by based off an Arvus lighter.



The I'll copy the wings and make some flat bed cars

i love this idea, great blog

Thanks bob. That’s really what I should be working on finishing next. Its really close, All I need to do is figure out the turn and finish up the legs.

Here are some pics of my planetary guard. Almost 3 squads









They are a real pain.

1. I have to cast every chest piece, as well as the end of every rifle.

2. Those old Guard torso are much wider than the new ones and the sides and eagle stick out too far so using the current arms takes a ton of modeling

3. Torso also doesn’t sit flat on the new legs so I have to green stuff the fittings

4. Also requirea making molds for the capes and then putting green stuff in those so I could get them to fit each character better

5. I’m not so sure about this one but what’s done is done. To fill the gaps and loop a little more Roman I add a second pauldron to the armor made out of a bic pen I cut up


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And Here are my almost completed rough riders. Does anyone know if all of the squad is supposed to have a spear on them to represent the weapon? Even the 2 armed with multi meltas and the one with a chain sword? Seems pretty hard and doesn’t look so great. I’d also have to figure out the power packs for all 5

Oh, this is amazing! The city is incredible, I personally love the monorail and the mech walkers!

Thanks. Here’s a better picture of that mec walker.



Will probably work on the other 2 while I wait for the other prices for my WIP ragnarock

very clever, also i'm going to pinch that pully idea from above your monorail for my promethium platform if you don't mind

p.s. I don't envy you painting that city

This is without a doubt the best project log I have ever seen, and feels like it's literally come from my dreams in terms of what I wish I could make one day xD

This is simply astounding and I'm looking forward to seeing more updates of both your army and your city.

Thanks Rhivan

I’ve decided to play hooky tomorrow and get some work done on the bastion interior. This elevator is ugly and I’ve been neglecting the railing work that’s needed



I also ordered myself one of these to use as part of the main city gate house

I love how you just casually order entire models from FW and GW's older ranges, just to use one single part as a manhole cover or something.

Ha,

Speaking of which, I just found found the third character to round out my HQ slots



I thinks we are covered pretty well in the manholes department though

Finished most of the panels in the bastion motor pool interior, added pillars, got the main door in, Some of the railing, added a second door and now I’m working on a new elevator configuration made from model railroad bridges









Testing placement 1

As always, it's beautiful. You may want to have it 3d scanned, once you get it finished, so we can view it in full.

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
As always, it's beautiful. You may want to have it 3d scanned, once you get it finished, so we can view it in full.

Is that something one can easily get done these days?

As for the board itself, agreed that it's looking great. I keep coming back to time and again to check on updates, and fantasize about being able to play on a board as detailed as this.

Dude.

Who wants to loan me $3,000? I always wanted this set so I could make some awesome futuristic skyscrapers and walkways out of them but this price is insane. What do you think the actual price should be? Meaning, what kind of loss would I take if I listed this again in 3 months?

No?

Here’s a better pic of the scenery for those of you who don’t remember



Here’s an idea on how i would stack them



And a horrible sketch on how they would sit on the table




The plan would be to add 3 of these buildings to the existing table. There would be 1 large one replacing the destroyed forge world building and 2 of the small towers straddling some of the raise roads. 2 of them would be connected by one of the large tunnel sections

Is this too much?

I really just wanted to add in more residential units and give more of a futuristic look to the city


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Ps. That’s not the real price

Dude......this is awesome. If I did this, I'd be divorced...LOL.

Incredibly jealous of your setup. Wish I could help with a project like this or build one myself someday! As for that price seems way too exhorbitant to me, unless you were able to copy them and cast them yourself for a tidy profit down the line making recasts?

Well, that’s why it’s not so bad. First off I talked to the owner and I wouldn’t pay that amount. Second, I would make molds and my own recast but for personal use only. I wouldn’t sell them

So my only loss would be material (still a lot, especially with the mistakes I make) and the delta between buy and sell, which never seems to work in my favor

Man, this project is just bananas. So good! Please keep posting your progress. I know I'm not alone in saying YOU ROCK!

Forgeworld terrain is at a premium as obviously they won't be making anymore anytime soon. So it is pretty valuable to collectors and people who really want the real deal. Especially since there are no recasts of them

Agreed. So hopefully the resale won’t be too bad. I could also sell my original forge world OOP ruins to help cover this new project, if it happens

Here’s a pick of the bastion control room with the holographic map table



I decided to take off the top and side panels. You’ll also see some new work stations in the background



Bad pic but the concept would be to light the table from underneath



Here’s some of the other levels as I don’t think I’ve shown them in awhile. This part feels more like building and decorating a doll house

Oh hello stolen floor idea using ceiling light tiles.

You know you could literally quit now and still have the most awesome gaming table in the know universe?
You should get in touch with GW. I know there are a few 3rd party bits, but they might have some tips for you.

I wish! If GW finds me I’m pretty sure they’ll just send in this guy

Thinking this would be a cool start for some sort of airship for my planetary guard (without the balloons of course) but don’t know I would say is “counts as”. Any ideas?

Arcus lighter or Valkyrie are what first come to mind.

That mec walker is ace, and love the terrain peice as well, very grim dark,

Love the cut away view - reminds me of some books I enjoyed as a child about cities and such, only for 40K! The Rhino garage is my favorite.

Thanks kestral but I think it’s going to be a motor pool for Elysian Tauros jeeps instead. I can fit more and I think they make more sense for a city patrol and defense station.

As you can kind of see one of them will be getting repairs. I still need to add some chains to hold an engine or something and make casts of the rims so it doesn’t look so weird without tires



Also abandoning the idea for the airship. I’ve got enough on my plate without getting into steampunk concepts

That cut-away is so cool! 40k dollhouse indeed

The scope of this just keeps amazing me.

I love this build but have you thought about how to paint it especially interiors, might be worth doing some painting as you go along, brilliant build though, look forward to more

Bad news. I didn’t win the forgeworld-anphelion-base ebay auction.

Maybe one will come up again in the next decade :(

[MOD EDIT - Dakka Dakka in NO WAY condones IP infringement of ANY kind - Alpharius]

Anyhow, started work on some more mechs tonight. Really hate the arm casts. Wish i was better at scratch building. Ill either do that or need to make new molds and use the injector technique

I think I just got a new cross country modeling partner, Reese from the Dakka forums. Big news to come! Stay tuned

You guys are building an even bigger cities of death table and sending it to my house?

Ooooh, he seems like the perfect amount of crazy to help pull this project along

SUPPLY DROP!



Proof of life pic with the pieces next to one my planetary guard

Oh my goodness he did it.

im super jelly

iv wanted a set of those for a while :(

I quit.


This is, quite simply, the greatest... thing anyone has ever done. Warhammer-related, that is.

It’s going to be a little bit until I start getting the new anphelion base buildings put together. Need to make A LOT of casts and I want to do it right. I’m meeting with a local pro and getting some tips/help. After that I’ll probaly need to work on my set up to. Still waiting on some other supplies for my tanks and some parts for the space port which will be my next building focus.

Until then started work on the two other mechs


not the best image but came across it and it reminded me of my concept layout for the new anphelion based hab towers and walkways

You know when you hope a blog to be updated every couple of hours? Really looking forward to see more!

This log is utter madness and I love every ounce of it! Can't wait to see it finished.
Such a massive undertaking and I applaud you for sticking with it.

A new post every couple of hours?
A massive undertaking?

I better get started working on this bits order then



Honestly a lot of this I won’t use too soon. The first things I’ll knock out are the death Korps heavy weapons teams to Finish off my three planetary guard squads and build my heavy weapons mortar team. Then I’ll probably turn back to the Lea man Russ ragnarock.

Questions:
does anyone know what this tread belongs to?



Do you like it better than my current plan of mashing two normal leman Chasis together?



It’s pretty damaged. Do you think it would be weird if I filed down the edges of all the threads to match the broken ones?



While I’m asking, what are these to?

I think that the middle tread is off a 'mortian battle tank' which was like a similar style tank compared to that of the macharius, but i think it's no longer produced because GW sued the person who made them.

Not 100 percent sure about that though, tbh if you have the whole kit its probably worth a lot, as they were very popular

I believe the large track may be from a Crassus Armoured Assault Transport, as the treads seem to match up with mine. On the other hand, the other pieces are very different. Is this all one vehicle? Or multiple bits from multiple different vehicles?

The long tread seems to be from a Macharius Heavy Tank (At least the shape and the treads are similar)

The pieces of the last two images are from the Trojan Support Vehicle

No lliu, I only have some pieces. These are from a recasters bad pour bin. I just ordered a bunch

I think gloomy is correct though





It does look like enough pieces for the Trojan if I have a chimera though.

Has anyone ever magnatized one?

Blimey , most of the main Trojan parts from the junk bin, been after one of these be interesting to see what you do with it.

Agreed. I might not do anything different with it at all and just use it for a Trojan. That or if I really need it I will make a cast of it to use on The ragnarock in the scenario I use those larger treads

In the case of the Trojan, even though it’s super cool that I got one it’s just going to make more work. now I’m going to have to scratch build a trailer or something and Magnatize a chimera.

What are the odds that the brand new pressure tank I buy has a whole in the actual case?

So not being able to get past 30 psi and the fact the pieces I’m casting don’t fit to well in this 2.5 gal pot I didnt get into anything too fun tonight

Just some quick little stuff like cutting down the treads so they all aren’t broken and making some quick reusable blue stuff molds for the missing treads and panels

Jesus christ, dude. This is borderline insanity now.


Keep it up!

New eisenhorn! I think I’m literally the only person who took the pins. Im such a nerd

Nice job on the casting, good to see someone as crazy as me on here

This #€<~> just got real.




To: Al or anyone else who’s done casting

I’ve been told to move on from doing LEGO molds and to start using wood and roof flashing. However when I was filling this form with water to figure out my silicone measurements it leaked. Do you think this matters? Silicone should have a much higher viscosity right? I can barely see the holes in the hot glue. But then again if water can find them the pressure probably will too

What the heck is that? Something to brew space beer?

Pass bud, I haven’t moved onto casting with pressure kit yet, still on the Lego method. Figure a combination of glue gun and strong tape would be the best bet but it’s only a guess!!!

The pressure pot is working and the detail is amazing. Only major issue is getting the surface molds level. Using the pot on its side has the unintended consequence of rotating when you are trying to tighten the lid, after your mold or cast is in it, creating unlevel product. Will need to get that figured out. Either way of course I started with the most important price.

The humble beginnings of hab tower 1

That detail is looking pretty crisp, how bigs this hab tower aiming to be??

Damn. Nice casting! Are you planning to use this method to make massive “hive world” towers? Would love to see that!

Exactly LLiu! I felt the city didn’t have enough futuristics elements to it. With the addition of these “towers” I think the whole city is going to get a bit taller and get that more futuristic feel, but I’m afraid the damage it may cause to be able to reach areas.

The main hab is going to replace the blown up forge world building and Because that area is raised to the walkway levels that hab will probaly be taller than the cathedral.

But to answer Al’s question or more so to really help me put this on paper, I think there will be 4 hab towers:

Hab 1 - will be open backed like a lot of the other buildings, 4 panels wide and 5 stories tall

Hab 2 - will be 6-7 stories high, just an octagon and connected directly to hab 1.

Hab 3 - will be 1 extra panel wide in addition to the octagon mold and only 4 stories but it will be on risers and straddle the raised road in the other side of the canal. The hab will connect to hab 1 via a closed bridge

Hab 4 - will be 4 for stories again and will also be on risers to allow the monorail to pass through it. This will be next to the space port

My goodness you are going all out.

Here are some better pictures of the detail I’m getting







First, the obligatory Aliens reference:

“STAY AWAY FROM HER YOU B!+€# !”



Now I need advice. I finally got better casts of the power lifter sentinel arm and am going to work on my mechs some more. I need to know:

1. Should I change the current design with no hands and the flamer/chain sword directly attached to the arms to something else that incorporates the pinchers?



2. If so, how? Should they be attached to the arms?


3. Or should I make a large flamer to be held and a chainsword bayonet? Maybe the gun could attach directly to the left arm and the right could have the pincher?

Oh my that casting is super crisp good job!

I have a few suggestions:
I think the sentinels look better with only the flamer/chainsword, or the pincers. That way you have two different patterns of mech, one for heavy lifting and one for demolitions or welding.

As for the hab blocks, if you add a couple of pegs to a couple of sides then you can remove them and re-stack them during the battle. And even have an interior, if you wanted.

Good ideas Ember,

I was already planning on havin 2 of the 4 towers open on the back so they could be played in but stacking the other 2 with magnets or a stronger support wouldn’t be too much more work. I will however need to find some good futuristic apartment or office furniture like beds, tables, showers, etc. anyone have any good recommendations for hero scale stuff like that?

I also got a fix for the shallowness of the base poors. There’s an automotive silicone adhesive called “great stuff” that actually sticks to silicone molds (only thing I’ve ever heard of. Hot glu will not work). You can use it to patch mold tears, hole and even in my case and a 1/4” pool for the ressin

Neat idea for the Mold adaptation, loving where you4 going with this, great ideas and execution, keep it coming

Just letting you know I regularly stalk this thread. So good. So, so good.

Still working full speed ahead on the hab towers and hope to get a Test building up this weekend. Just need to figure out what I want to use as a base for each level and how to space them. As always I made a few mistakes and wasted a lot of product on my last roof panel mold by pouring while I was short on supply and didn’t know of it was enough. So like I always say you’re never going to be as efficient as the real re-casters or get that much more value by making your own product. Specially if you’re an amateur like me because there’s so many Miss casts, wasted product or a lot of Ruined product. Anyway I guess it’sTime to get more silicone!

I was cruising the Internet and I found something pretty cool that I thought might help expand the skyline of my city fight table. Meet the beginning’s of my Warhammer 40,000 Zeppelin. The picture below isn’t mine but from a company called burn in designs. I ordered the largest one but asked them to swap propellers for me. I plan to hopefully make my own cabin or at least significantly alter theirs. The plan is to have it a fixed feature of the table and tie it to the ceiling.

http://www.burnindesigns.net/p/steam.html?m=1

Got my forms ready for mold making tonight. This black plastic sheeting from Home Depot is so much easier than the mdf of roof flashing I was using

Just found this thread, subbed. Checking past work and looking forward to seeing what comes next.

Thanks!

What comes next is starting to put these darn hab units together. Like all ressin and forge world stuff these are going to need a lot of finesse. Including using my heat gun, grinding, sanding and eventually green stuff (but the whole board needs a lot of that). Like I said before I’ll need to make a level or sub floor for each story to rest on. This will help support it and start hopefully getting things closer to level.

Here’s the layout for the top floor (5th) large open back hab1. I also put a place holder hab 2 behind it to show the height difference (as that ones slimmer and taller)and how they will connect/line up.



I do need some advice on the spacing of the levels though. Do you guys like

A. Using the roof pieces on the bottom as well as the top, plus a spacer in between each?


B. Using the roof pieces on the bottom as well as the top, but no spacer in between?


C. No extra upside down roof piece and a spacer



I think I’ll avoid D. Just stacking them without each level having a roof. I want to get more dimensions

Go for B, but file the roof pieces so there's no gap

If go with either B or C. Or a mixture of both.

I'd say B, but if you're planning more towers you could use A and C to give them a slightly different look. Amazing to see your progress, and the zeppelin!

Thank you gentlemen. Great advice all around and I will go with B. I’ll also think I’ll try to make a smaller mold for the upside down roof bits so I don’t waste to much more ressin. It knowing my I’ll probaly just waste a bunch of silicone.

Also thinking a lot about the layout and floor. The multiple floor panels are going to be hard to get level. I might just try floreatent light panels again.

For this Big hab, do you think I should divide it up internally with multiple small apartments? I was thinking the wide space doesn’t make a ton of sense for most residents. Maybe I’ll have a hallway with an elevator the goes up to it. The the tunnels/bridges that go off from it will go to single units? That probaly doesn’t make sense to anyone else.

Lastly. These pieces look really cool the way they come but for playability wouldn’t be better if they had open windows or balconies? Thinking about adding a few. Thoughts?

I’d go B also. But instead of making another mold, use some clear acrylic sheets to fill between the two levels and then rig a LED light between to give a glow between the floors of the building.

I’d skip the windows, but I hate painting internals of anything, as the future city close to a factory and a grim dark river probably wouldn’t have a nice view anyways.

Check out what the wifey just supposed me with from part of her bonus.



So cool and something I never would have purchased for myself. And guess what I’m going to do with it? Build it normal and paint it. No mods, no casting, no only use half the parts and scratch build something else. No, I’m just going to build and paint the stupid model like a normal human. The ultimate goal is still to see how much the city can dwarf this thing!

@thoephony - Aren’t you the same person who suggested the space port needed landing lights? I’m might be crazy and biting off way more than I can chew but... I don’t think I’m going to get into much lighting. Very very cool idea though. Very Beijing future but I don’t really know enough about that stuff

Lighting is pretty easy. It all depends on how big the lights are.

Late to the party as usual but I'll offer another vote for B.

Try D but each level has a wrap around balcony attached?

sneaking in a vote for A, I think it looks more unique - but B is probably more stable so maybe go with it instead

Awesome stuff as always!! Grats on the Knight, lovely present =D

The votes have it and we went with option B for habs 1&2 at least.

Here’s the start of it in its new home



Kirkee wasn’t as pissed as I thought he’s be at my recommendation to tear down our very first structure and replace it with this large hab tower.



I even got him to make some progress on one of the front buildings. He’s using one of the ruin pieces for the top. Will probaly eBay the others

You could just build the Hab tower over the ruins. In the fluff at least they constantly mention that cities are built over top of ruins. Kinda like a mini underhive.

Hab tower has the the right kind of look imho, l’m particularly liking the the leg base idea.

Hey, what is that ruin piece at the top? I have the exact same one, but I'm not exactly sure what it is. I would highly appreciate an answer as I've been curious for like forever. Thanks!

It’s 1 of I believe 4 ruined buildings forgeworld used to make. I had all 4 but chopped one up a bunch to make casts to make the building you see above.

Here are the other 2 which I probably won’t use on this board and just sell

Those builds are so massive. It would take 3 turns to run up the stairs. You have an incredible painting project ahead of you but what an amazing table you'll have when it is done.

b or c, it’s a toss up for me

Late to comment, but it would improve playability if the entire assembly was lifted off the ground- on stilts, meaning the footprint is reduced.

A central stalk containing an elevator door to the habs and/or several feet woudl allow models to pass around it without reducing the impressive size.

Good points angel. I’ll look at raising the hab another level.

I decided to try casting my ragnarock. Came out ok. You’ll notice some missing sections due to air bubbles I can’t seem to get out of the top of the casts.



Definently going to need the heat gun for the side panels and treads



The top to the anphelion base tunnel came out really good though. This will need the heat gun every time too but so did the original forge world one.

What's the tunnel going to be used for? And do you have any tips for someone that wants to start casting? I really want to make an Imperial Guard regiment using these guys:

but buying several boxes and only using one weapon arm doesn't seem like a good idea.

Ha, I think we saw the same announcements! Now I have to get a bunch of the kill team terrain. I wish I didn’t convince myself I wanted the board to have every piece of imperial terrain on it. I’m really running out of room



Love that model. I was thinking they would be super cool for some sort of imperial army specialist force too. I usually just recast, terrain and stuff that’s no longer In Production. Also if these aren’t multipart kits it’s going to be really hard.

You know s is getting real when kirkee gets the DAS out.

Kirkee also got some work done on one of the two front buildings





And I worked on the large hab by putting some floors in. These lighting panels are a lot better looking than the originals that were just impossible to get together without huge seems

Still working hard without much to show for it except for a good pile of cast for some of my hab towers



Here’s also a layout for how hab 1 and hab 3 will attach

The walkways, monorail and just all the different levels really make this look much more "real" than most other terrain projects. The new hab-block are really great.

Thanks. I hope it doesn’t end up looking to cluttered. I just can’t stop adding stuff. I hope the new kill team terrain isn’t as good as it looks. That way I don’t have to add too much of it

Progress update on the ragnarock



The backs a little uneven and will need to get hit with the heat gun



I also want the turret to move/rotate. Is there a good LEGO piece I could use for this or will a magnet work?








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I don’t know. Do you guys think the ragnarock is too long? Maybe I should turn it into a chimera and use a different shorter chassis for the leman Russ ragnarock?

I like the length, TBH. It makes it look unique, and not like a converted leman russ.

Great! That’s the answer I was looking for. I really don’t want to get distracted with having to make a different tank or accidentally turn into a tread head. That’s a deep hole.

Figuring out a hatch still

You guys gonna be updating anytime soon?

Sorry, on the days we’ve been able to get together kirkee has been caught up in the details on a balcony for the cathedral and everything I’ve worked on sucks. Plan to hopefully post some progress on the large hab building tomorrow night

And, is it just me or are all the images for the last 7 pages of this thread missing again?

Also, anyone know where to get funnels like this



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Ok I lied. Instead of agreeing to help me finish up one of the habs Kirkee informed me he would be starting a new building. We are referring to this one as the “senate” building and it will essentially be a large tower next to the cathedral on the back right corner of the board. It will be open on the corner so the insides will be playable like several of the othes.

Here’s kirkees concept drawing


The top that he finished yesterday


And finally found some use for these parts. he will be using for the anphilion landing pad as main base and top levels. and the reapers will outer walls of course

The senate building? Will it have a pale wizened hooded man standing on a balcony somewhere?

Uh, I'm pretty sure lightning counts as unsanctioned psychic abilities. That means heresy.

Glad to see you guys back in action

Started doing a little work on the catacombs under the cathedral

Beautiful. I will be disappointed if there aren't any skulls.

Well, since he hasn't updated in a while I'm going to have to assume that btoliver311 was crushed when his monorail fell on top of him.

RIP.

Not dead yet

Still Just making tons of casts. It takes a lot of time to make all this material .
Also trying to work on making better molds for the planetary guard. Got some new oop models that were never painted. Hoping to get better detail on the eagle. Also casting/Molding some crusaders due to the fact there are currently only 2 poses and I want more variety for my squad of 5

Good call with the skull walls in the catacombs. It isn´t even over the top compared to a lot of real life places. Will you have a skull-chandelier down there?

These new casts using 2 part molds are coming out great! It’s like there was some reason all of the tutorials said to do it this way and to include vent channels for every part.



The crusader mold below was a single mold cutt in half. Which is one way to do it but in my case this left me very little control over my flashing and honestly probably ruined the finished product. The cast above with the rouge trader guard I also cast in 2 pieces but sprayed Mann 200 mold release on the first half before pouring my second. Allowing me to pull the two parts apart later. Once I get more silicone I can sculpt up some guard with these new torsos and the regular guard legs. I think with what I have learned so far I’ll be able to manufacture much better figures going forward



You’ll also notice how much better the detail is on the top pic. That’s because I found those new oop guard that had never been painted or even used and therefore had a lot better detail to mold off of

I also thru a tank hatch and some other random stuff into the silicone cup to use up the left over



Not bad

Your work bench is a mess!

Kirkee has been working on the senate building and it’s going to be really cool. Will probably get some good pictures of it up this weekend. The inside is going to be open and done in marble again. So he wants to add 3-4 large murals to the walls but we are stuck with what we want to use. Should we use imperial guard photos of famous generals to maybe illustrate famous leaders from our planet OR should we do more god emperor stuff?





I plan to have Celestine in my army as Well and really like this pic



Do you guys have Any good image ideas?

Other thoughts: iwant to stay away from space marine imagery and anything we don’t use in the senate building we could probably try and turn into stained glass imagery for the cathedral

I’d think like a picture of a general, then emps then Celestine, and back to emps so it would god be emperor person emperor person etc.

Im not the most well versed in imperial political lore but I would suggest using characters who can be tied to the political system of the city/planet/sector you are basing this board in. If you wanted to go with the Celestine approach then I would work her presence into the lore of your board or pick a sector/planet/city which has had Celestine on it b4. They probably wouldn't have images of her up if she hadn't helped them previously.

I would use the God emperor and then more localized figures based off of location. In actual hero worship cults of the past people would typically worship a figure and then try to work their own local figure into their lives. For example some early Spanish churches said that the disciple Peter wasn't executed in Rome but instead escaped to Spain. This was an attempt to weave their own history into that of Catholicism. I would attempt to represent this same type of hero worship by having images of generals your sector will identify with placed next to an image of the Emperor.

These are just my own thoughts on the subject, but I hope they help.


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Also try to pick images with similar art styles since the murals would most likely have been painted by the same artist or same set of artists.

I'm looking forward to seeing the completed senate building, it's gonna look great

I'll agree with having local figures presented but the biggest picture should absolutely be the god emperor.

Would you be willing to share the tutorial you used for casting as I'm really curious as to how you've done it to get them so smooth.

If you're up for the challenge, I'd suggest trying to paint the murals freehand. It's not actually as difficult as it sounds: first paint the whole wall to completion, with highlights and whatnot. Then trace the image onto the wall with pencil. Then it's just a matter of painting the mural as you would paint a regular model, with one exception: instead of washes, make the base coat as dark as you can. Then just layer over with you base coat.
It might seem like a ton of work, but it's really rewarding and plus it ties the murals into the rest of the board since it'll all be painted by you. If you make any mistakes, just chip off that part of the wall/painting and say it was damaged

Hey guys,

All great suggestions. I’ll share with kirkee when he comes over today and compare against the thoughts and images he had in mind

In regards to doing a molding/casting tutorial, I don’t think I’m the best guy for that. I’m still in the learning phase and making a lot of mistakes (some costly) that I wouldn’t want to recommend to others. For example look at my first tank









This thing has more gaps, bubbles, warping and even areas I can’t get the resin to flow into then areas that have turned out right. Worse yet I haven’t figured out how I would make it better.

Kirkee made some serious progress on his senate building yesterday. Accept now I think it’s turning into some sort of inquisition court building. Is that a thing they would have on different planets and different cities?

It’s really tall and like I said before the insides going to be white marble with a bunch of murals





I don’t know if you can tell from this pic but it has a large mai. Floor where he’ll put like a dias or lecturn where the person address or the accused would stand. Then up above there are two rows of balconies

That looks amazing!

I finally got started on the pavers for the catacombs that I mentioned a year ago!

Soo cool I have always wanted to have a board like this but alas I still have to live with my parents in a small apartment....

Just wait. I thought about this thing for years before I actually had a place where I could build it.

In regards to the senate or now the inquisition building, Here are the images kirkee settled on
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I’ll also try to list our the steps for the marble but Im hoping we can put a better tutorial together later

1) get clear vinyl sheets from A hardware store. We got a 3x3’ at ace



2) cut those to the size of the marble panel. There are special blades for cutting clear vinyl ask for them at the hardware store

3) After that take the plastic film off of the bottom side of your marble. Leave the top covered until right before you glue it down. You are essentially painting your steps backwards, doing the main color last

4) the first color with be the lightest amount. Kirkee does spotting by flicking black paint onto the vinyl with an old toothbrush . (That’s in the case of white marble, for black marble he flicked cream)

5) then lightly mist on some other splotches for discoloration. We used grey

6) once the dry cover the entire back with your main color. In our current project that’s white.

The will get you this far



The rectangles at the top are how they should look from the top, the one on the bottom is the back view (the side you’ve been painting) notice it’s all white?

7) after this it’s time to add the veins. I don’t have any pictures of this step as we aren’t there yet for the white marble but what you do is take a dremil with the diamond tip and start making groove paternal. Some small, some large. Try to make them look like how the glas would crack if you dropped it or small valleys

Here’s an old pic of the finished black marble with veins



And here’s a test image of one of our images, printed on the transparency paper at 50% opacity and glued to the vinyl with the film off both sides. Excuse the glue mess, we used jet and will not do that again

The black marble looks incredible! Really nice!

Kirkee got the first 10 marble panels and the murals up in the senate building and it’s looking really cool

Awesome! One question: how're you going to paint it? Now that the murals and marble are up? Are the panels removable, or will you mask them?

Yeah... that’s going to be a pain. They are in so Masking and hand brushing

Ah. I'd invest in some high quality painters tape (like, really *really* high quality). I have a roll that cost me about 30 bucks, and it hasn't leaked or not come off yet.
On another note, are those balcony things in the senate building big enough for a miniature to stand on? It'd be awesome if you built some kind of railing and seating area so you can have people/servitors hold court.

Wow! that looks awesome! This project is so impressive.

Good ideas. The plan was to have benches on the balconies but I don’t think there will be room for benches and a model so who knows.

I also worked on the pavered floor for the area under the cathedral (I think I was calling it the catacombs but that doesn’t make any sense)

I started out ok





But then rushed the second half.



Definitely not as good as Rob Hawkins

Oh mama. The rotunda thing is awesome, this plog never disappoints.

Are you going to have a statue or a tomb in there? Maybe have it be a military commander that defended the planet or something.

Goddamn. Excellent work as always. Particular congrats on the murals, I thought they would be obviously copy/pasted and printed, but they turned out natural looking and very very convincing. Fantastic work!

These buildings are top notch ! It looks like a dreamtable for every tabletop player, great work mister ! Can't wait to see it painted !

Hey guys,

I think the crypt or whatever it is, is just going to have 4 coffins. I’m hoping to keep it playable so we can do stuff like “having a commander have his last stand there” or have some objective there. You may notice some of the skull or catacomb (or new a new word I learned “ossuaries”) panels are drilled out. In some of these we will have skulls pulling or falling out, in others maybe a coffin but 2 of them might actually end up being secret passages out. More to come on that though


Anyways....

Like I’ve been talking about I want to do a final mold of my planetary guard with more detail. But the problem, as we all know, with limited models is limited poses. To combat this some what I’ve decided to do my new molds and casts in a pose that can be used over and over and not look so odd. What I came up with was the idea of a marching pose and an at attention pose. I’m thinking I can make a few full squads of each and no one would bat an eye as long as I change up the faces or helmets.

Here’s the work in progress



And the 2 images I used for the concepts





Thoughts?

Also, I may have asked this already but what do you guys think of the new squads going without the cloaks and beefed up paldrons?I’ve decided trying to recreate them would just be too difficult. I would either need to order them or go without. And for the paldrons, I just haven’t been able to get the consistency they need

Im gonna need a change of pants.

Unbelievable.

The dirigibles could be barrage blimps. Basic air defence obstacles to clutter up the skies for attackers. But also covered in lasers and skulls of course. And some platforms to fight over.

Totally!

Not going to get to it for awhile but I want the airship to be somewhat playable. So it will probably have platforms around the base for models. I’m also trying to decide if it will have some sort of mouring anchor cable or if I’ll added a dock for shuttles/planes to connect to it

It will definently be armed

 btoliver311 wrote:
Totally!

Not going to get to it for awhile but I want the airship to be somewhat playable. So it will probably have platforms around the base for models. I’m also trying to decide if it will have some sort of mouring anchor cable or if I’ll added a dock for shuttles/planes to connect to it

It will definently be armed

The anchor could also be it's power source, like when ships plug into the dock in Port. Would be easy to find random wire for that. Then have it attach to the ground with a magnet so it's secure but also removable.

I want to fly my dark Eldar into this place. Trying to disembark a payload of warriors before their raiders get blasted out of the sky by macro cannons.

Here we go again

The marching guardsmen will look ace marching up a main avenue, great idea.

This plog never ceases to amaze and inspire me. You're all mad, but good god that is some incredible work!

Ok

I have both side of my mold done. Couple things I did this time to help with the molds was to

A) took time to make sure I knew where my mold lines would be. You don’t want any mold lines right on your main detail. In my case this was the imperial eagle on the chests. So obviously I stuck the model in backside first only keeping half of the model exposed.

B) took time that nothing would be encapsulated on just one side of the mold. you don’t want any silicone to go all the way around something g in a 2 part mold. How will you get it out? If this happens you need to cut that out before pouring the second half. For example you’ll see inside the red circle where I didn’t get the clay covering it enough and some small part got cover in he first half pour. Such as some of the wrists, ankles and even part of a leg and arm. I went back in and cut these out so they would be covered by the second half of the mold instead

C) because I used clay as my base for covering one half of the models while I poured the first half I had a lot of it still stuck to the models when I got ready to pour my second half. This is shown in the black circles. I went in and removed all of this with a brush and air hose





Also for those of you who don’t know. You’re supposed to use a mold release like Mann 200 before pouring the second half of the silicone.



Which I totally forgot to do because I was in a rush to get to the movies. But when I got home I ran in and ripped the two parts across the pour seem and I got lucky and they came apart



I’ll try my first cast later today. Just testing the resin to make sure it’s still good. It’s getting pretty hot here in AZ but in not sure if the garage has gotten hot enough to ruin it yet



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Not too shabby.

The marching dudes arm (not shown) isn’t venting or channeling right but everything else looks like it’s coming out fine




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Changed my mind again. They need cloaks

Did a little working on the underground portion of the cathedral today. Another round of grout, some more sanding and screwed in the pillars.



added a top to secure everything because the cathedral itself will be removable. The fact that you can see through it is just accidental. It won’t remain that way. It was just the toughest material we had on hand



Also added some coffins and plinths. Which you can see better through the clear top

Thank you for sharing this, I'm genuinely excited to try your flooring idea! I'm in the middle of a massive Mordheim redesign / build and this is just excellent.

I agree they need cloaks. Looking pretty cool; kudos on the perseverance!

Thanks bloodaxe, but totally not my idea. Follow the original tutorial here:

https://robhawkinshobby.blogspot.com/2014/07/terrain-tutorial-flagstone-streets.html?m=1

And don’t cut corners. Rob does it in a certain order with specific material for a reason. All of the changes I made were at my own detriment.

Biggest thing is spacing. Don’t spread them out more than they are supposed to be and don’t leave ANY open squares. Those look the worst

...still giving you credit for bringing it to my attention

Lovin* the progress you’ve made, some of your ideas are excellent and well executed.

We both put in a lot of hard work yesterday. Kirkee spent the day cutting, painting and inserting pane by pane of marble to the senate building.



I put in just as much elbow grease with less impressive results.

Every level of the hab towers require a ton of modifications just to fit together. After casting them, the pieces all have to be ground down due to being surface molds, then just to get them to line up I have to hit them with a heat gun for awhile, then they get vicegripped and glued. I also have to add a layer of posterboard between each level to keep them level and to have something to glue to.



After making the buildings forms I then have to go back in and hide all the ugly stuff. Here’s a picture of the posterboard and Plasticard going into the spaces created on every level from the upside down roof idea (totally regretting btw). You can see the difference if you look at the lowest level




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Also a random picture of me looking at the back corner of the board judging the hieghts of the new buildings and trying to decided if we need more variation

Spring cleaning!

Time to get all these terrain bits organized.

 btoliver311 wrote:


I put in just as much elbow grease with less impressive results.

Every level of the hab towers require a ton of modifications just to fit together. After casting them, the pieces all have to be ground down due to being surface molds, then just to get them to line up I have to hit them with a heat gun for awhile, then they get vicegripped and glued. I also have to add a layer of posterboard between each level to keep them level and to have something to glue to.



After making the buildings forms I then have to go back in and hide all the ugly stuff. Here’s a picture of the posterboard and Plasticard going into the spaces created on every level from the upside down roof idea (totally regretting btw). You can see the difference if you look at the lowest level


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I know its super late into the process, but have you considered casting the eight sided tower levels in quarters or halves? You could either cast them as a facade or as solid blocks, then cut out the interior as needed.. You might find expanding foam easier to work with as a material:
https://chicagoterrainfactory.wordpress.com/2015/09/28/cargo-container-casting/

If and when I get around to copying your work here, I'll be aiming for building and casting one quarter of an octogonal building and then pumping out a lot of them to make levels. On a 'ruined' tower i might carve out an interior and damage for the top level only and then model supports for the missing layers going up and stairs going down into the rest of the structure.

A quarter has the advantage over a half that you can insert spacers (doors vents, tanglkes of pipes and wires) between the quarters for variety on the ground and upper levels.

This entire project is just amazing! Wow...I have no words

It's been two weeks! Where are my updates?!

Let’s get some paint on some stuff then



At least a base coat

This is where I'm even more interested to see it come to life! what you've created is spectacular and a massive feat for any hobbyist to aspire to build, but to see paint and gothic feel come to life will be pure magic!

You just made my week.

So I really didn’t think we were ready for paint and this is just a couple of base coated buildings but the paint is really helping me see how much closer to completion some of these building are

the Bastion is primed in army painter uniform grey then the interior was also airbrushed lightly with a watered-down silver



(I should also note that the outside facing of all the buildings and the entire diorama will be cleaned up as the very last step with poster board. So all this ugly foam board below will be covered much later)


The landing pad was first spray painted in gunmetal


But I ran out and then we decided it was too lite of a color for the base and gun metal would be a better dry brush layer later. So kirkee recovered it in a slightly sparkly black



Here are some group shots. You will see we also painted two of the buildings. 1 grey which had to be airbrushed because it’s half styrofoam and spray paint would melt. So that took forever
We also base painted the triangle building brown, even though we still have to add another two levels to it

Got a little work done on one of my heavy weapons teams. Modeling these guys is a lot more work than I anticipated. I had to come up with new arm/hand combos for almost each dude because of the fact that unlike most of their brothers in arms, none of these guys are pointing rifles at anything




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In the back ground you can also see the start of my massed produced marching squad. Not sure how many of these I’ll actually do.





How do you think I should model the sergeant? One hands on a chai sword hilt, sword raised, is there such thing as a hand symbol Aquila, flag? And what about the other hand?

A baton!

Those are simply amazing! Awesome work!

How have I just stumbled upon this now? Awesome stuff, i'm subbed!

Man, this is an incredible project! You've got an impressive array of skills at work here, I think I've got a lot to learn from these pages.

This is really monumental stuff! I love the fact that you are going full-on resin casting for this - super impressive dedication!

Amazing how a layer of paint can make such a difference! This really is shaping up, keep the good work going!

Bigger is better

Before


Beginning of new taller version


Before


Beginning of the new much wider river




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The reason we extended the river wasn’t just to add 2 months to our build but rather to address the fact that a majority of the table had become unplayable or reachable unless you had crazy monkey arms like me (which was still hard). So 3/4 of the river will actually be open in a U shape so people can walk into the middle of the board to play and reach models. It’s about 26” wide and we think that should be enough room for one person




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Here’s a couple more pics of the expansion of the flatiron building too. It’s going to be a pretty cool sniper den now with a firesescape to get up to the blown out section, some stairs to the roof and even an open door open to the bridge between the buildings soon to come

I'm a little concerned that the river is wide enough that you can have guardsmen standing on either side, unable to shoot each other due to range.

The risk with a gulf like this in the middle is that it becomes the battlefield- if you have one or two chokepoints then all the lovely work you have done on either side will effectively see no play.

The battlefield 2142 map suez canal handled this by placing it as an end level goal for one team, allowing the river bed to be navigated instead of the bridge, but also allowing infantry to cross the bridge above and below the 'road', allowing for an interesting multilevel battle or infiltration beyond just tanks fighting on the bridge.



This smaller map version above narrows the conflict to the bridge itself.

I'm interested to see how this plays out and wish you the best!

Looks awesome!
As for what =Angel= said, I think it's fine as it is now. If you're worried about choke points, you could add another bridge or two... or three.

Yeah, it will definetly create some interesting scenarios, hopefully some fun. The total width of the river is approximately 37-40” so very few infantry models are going to pack that kind of range and I am expecting to see quite a few failed charges.



Even my Vostroyan army and their Heirloom Weapons are going to have a hard time but there will still be 4 different places to cross the river. There will still be the 2 large east bridges you see above but we are also keeping the monorail track which Im Expecting to be used and the lower west man bridge. Both will just need to put in hinges


Old image

In regards to having the river bed dry, that won’t really work with the cut out and I really want the fake water for the diorama. As you might have seen there is still 2” of base going along both canal walls where we will still pour that so people can tell it’s obviously a river.


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Finally finished these guys

Those are awesome!
Another idea that just crossed my mind: you could have a barge or something moored alongside the river bank, which'd make the river slightly narrower at that point.

 EmberlordofFire8 wrote:
Those are awesome!
Another idea that just crossed my mind: you could have a barge or something moored alongside the river bank, which'd make the river slightly narrower at that point.

And which could be blown up?

As ever, amazing and inspiring lunacy - what you have achieved so far is breathtaking, can only try and imagine what it'll be like when painted!

Interesting idea ember. I was thinking a Gorgon converted into an LCVP or Higgens boat would definitely be cool but yes they could totally be blown up

Loving the marching men, really well exacuted. The buildings are really coming on well too, keep it coming

I just finished reading the 17 pages, it truly is fantastic!!!!!!!

I can't wait to see the next updates!!

Thanks Gourde, that 17 pages is about 1.5 years of our life. This project moves pretty slow given its scope and the fact we only get about one weekend every other week to work on it.


Doesn’t look like much but kirkee did a little work on the flatiron last night





And I worked on glueing the first hab tower pieces together. Ignore the base, that’s just to hold it in place.

Hey guys,

I posted this question in painting and modeling but thought I would throw it on here too

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/759943.page#10052497


Need some advice on building a Retinue for Eisenhorn for killteam (I know I’m getting ahead of myself) or normal 40k to go along with my IG/Sisters army and the new Eisenhorn model.

I think this has come up before but looking for direction and updates. I’m lookin for GW models for conversions and what actual troop/squad choice they would be able to represent. Here’s some info and pics from the internet

Besides Ravenor and Cherubael, Eisenhorn maintained the following. Also my memory on the fluff is a little scattered so if anyone could help me remember which characters don’t overlap that would be appreciated too

First would be Godwyn Fischig: Former chastener in the Adeptus Arbites, I’ll probably find an old arbiters model for him and add a can I. To his shoulder?


The next biggie is elizabeth Bequin, a Blank, with an attribute that nullifies the effects of psychic or daemonic effects in her vicinity. What model can do this and what did Elizabeth normally wear? A body glove or something more exotic?

What about Midas and/or Medea Betancore: they were pilots of Eisenhorn's personal gun-cutter. Was thinking Elysian drop troop models

Harlon Nayl: was a Former mercenary and bounty hunter I think. He supposed to be big with a shaved head and a board glove. I thought about one of the new or old house van Saar models with a catachan head swap







Kara Swole is referred to as a former circus acrobat who was hired by Eisenhorn. Constantly described as "voluptuous" - I have no ideas there or what weapon load outs

To help her fit into the group the acrobat could be one of the female Van Saar figs. Or use one of the Caladus assassins. While not overly voluptuous, they have the curves and are in scale.

I think I have one. What about a different head and weapons?

I haven’t bought any of the Necromunda stuff. Waiting for them to get all the rules in one place and not nickel and dime me. But I believe that statuesque miniatures probably would have some lovely female heads that would work. There’s also female troopers in the Sedition Wars game which could also work for you.

Did some searching

I still think one of these would be good for midas


Bequin


Harlon


Kara would be a conversion like this


And found this Fischig opion on eBay



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DUDE. I want all of this terrain. When is the killteam release Date?

It *should* be out by the end of July, at least GW said it would last February.
One thing I might suggest would be to use one of these bodies

for Fischig, with a head swap from that eBay mini and a shotgun from the SM scouts. It'd look a little more modern and, more importantly, wouldn't be comically short.

Thanks ember! That’s great news about kill team but really too bad about the arbites model. You’re totally right though all the old metal models I’ve gotten from GW are way too short and I don’t have the chops to make that thing taller, nor would I risk cutting up a $25 model. I’ll just get the artell one
https://artelw.com/#w--ul-id-570-2/The-Chastener-2-0/p/97114448/category=27134181--w


Kirkee pretty much finished up the flatiron last night. My WIP count-as rattling snipers and a knight are added for scale




And it’s magic! As you might remember the whole board has to be designed to be moved and fit through a 32” doorway. So this new top is detachable



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Also doing a few more molds but considering the heat here I’m afraid we may have issues

My WIP count-as ratling snipers

This build is absolutely bonkers! The scale and detail is truly amazing...I wish I had the room to build and store something of this magnitude.

Thank you for sharing, I’m definitely subscribing to this.

So I decide to get some help with my mold for the anphelion base half octagon wall piece. This thing is supposed to be a staple of my 3-4 more hab towers and my original mold wasn’t doing it. It was a surface mold so every base was a different height and I was having to do a lot of grinding/filling. Which for a building that is supposed to be 9 stories tall doesn’t come out so well. Imagine:




I turned to someone I usually just consult with and asked him to just build me this one. It wasn’t cheap but it’s way better than what I would have come up with. It has vinyl sides to keep the box perfectly inform, a vinyl cap with vent holes which keeps the base perfectly flat, long cuts with mesh tape on the end to make demolding easier and is built from a harder silicon. The casts are coming out perfectly now and I can imagine the rest of these towers Coming along much faster now.




Also got some more paint on the flatiron

Nearly 2 months without an update, please god don't let this awesomeness fizzle out

2 months no update= I forget why I follow this thread..

1 update= I remember again, and remember the AWESOME

Hey any update on the lack of updates?

Uh... we’re gonna need an update...

I have only just found this incredible thread. I rather hope it hasn't lost momentum just as I discover it!

Some truly amazing work in here, really impressive.

Wow only 3 months! Feels like a lot longer.

sorry guys, we listed our house for sale and for some reason it was better to not have a huge diorama taking up the whole garage during the open houses. Still need to get through some inspections but hope to be back in the laboratory in a few weeks.

Also, bought an insane amount of the Sector Imperialis stuff to add

What progress looks like. Getting right back into things by starting on two big projects I’ve been procrastinating on:


First, Finally building and securing the monorail. This is a really hard part of the board due to their height and narrowness. Like everything else we want these to be strong and stand up to play. So they are actually built with 3/4” galvanized pipe that are screwed to the table via their floor flanges and drilled and fitted into the monorail track itself (aka the sidewalks out of the imperial sector set). We have 4 of the 6 posts in and just need to figure out the slight turn before adding the others .




Second and at the same time, we are starting work on making one of the two man bridges able to swing out so players can get to the middle of the board for access. No good pictures on the hindge mechanism because it’s ugly but I will show how we are rearranging the bridge layout to accommodate. We’ve now moved what will be the intact road bridge to the west side (right next to the monorail) and the destroyed bridge to the east side.





Seems like the plan is for the bridge to have a Brooklyn bridge feel and in doing so I believe Kirkee is going to use all of our new imperial sector walls

Welcome back! Glad this incredible, inspiring project is still going strong - pics aren't working though :-/

Congrats on making it back! I now have something to look forward to every week!

As promised. One bridge on a hinge

Very cool!

Thanks. Will probably put another foam board strip across the bottom to provide better support and put the Water affects on it.
Works pretty well though

The large bridge is coming along too but the glue time is slowing us down



That and I’m concerned we might run out of sector flooring parts

Is the plan to build it all with every single detail before painting? Or what do you have in mind for painting phase?

I think anymore painting will have to wait until we’ve made a lot more progress. Maybe I will do the catacombs but that’s probably it. The board has some big projects already on the docket. Including the new large bridge and the building we are adding next to the bastion

Excelent work on that bridge

very cool idea.

How playable you think the table is so far?

im still drafting up my table and im having a hard time figuring out how to make a playable table that isnt a bunch of half triangle ruins :/

Not sure about playability Desubot. That’s something I think I’m going to need all of your opinions on. There aren’t a lot of open areas and vehicle access is going to be limited to the upper areas. I’ll take a video sometime before the new year with progress at that point and we can take a poll to see what game you all think the board will be best for (40k, killlteam, necromunda, etc.)

But more importantly here’s some progress on the main bridge.

First, the inspiration:


A side view of the WIP first two towers where they will be placed approximately:



North tower with the statue attached:


Middle tower. (Still needs, base, statues, etc):


And here’s the layout concept for once we get the supports in:

Might add a small statue for the middle post. Idk


Thx

Looks pretty cool. what about doing the supports from the bottom instead?

so reverse the angles upwards instead

So good. Towers sell it for me.

Woah dude, what an inspiring build! That really gives off a good sense of scale for an Imperial city..

Yeah, I really like the bridge too but that’s not honestly my baby. That’s kirkee’s.

I’m using more of the same concept and new imperial sector terrain to add another basic building. Not much to see yet just the initial layout and placement. This will get dolled up a bunch so they don’t look so similar.



Being on the tableside it will also be open backed and playable





Still trying to decide on height. Thinking one more full level of the old city fight wall height and then capping it or adding a destroyed level of the sector stuff (I have a ton but I really didn’t want so many buildings with damage)

Incredible stuff, very epic and innovative - keep up the good work!

Looking awesome!

Why not both? You could cap a complete layer, and then have a small ruined area on top of the sealing, like the top of a stair well to the roof or a small penthouse area or something. That would basically give a neat little area for a sniper or heavy weapons nest in game.


Something I've noticed- the fortress is starting to get quite closed in by buildings on each side now. This doesn't affect it's ability to defend from enemies outside the wall, but the way the crenelations extend around the city side suggest it is clearly intended to be a strongpoint in the event of any breach of the wall or civil unrest.

With that in mind, would you consider revising the battlement to add some kind of machicolations? It would be an unusual and really cool little bit of realism to add to a 40k bunker, and certainly in keeping with the terrain being defended. this would allow the fort to protect the street directly below the battlements, and not just cover the nearby buildings and elevated roads.

I know it is complete pedantry, but it would add a touch of practicality that would make the defences seem more real. Seeing as you are otherwise making an amazingly immersive cityscape, I thought I'd mention it

All really good points haighus

I think I’ll do the top of the new building like you mentioned.

In Regards to the bastion, you’re also right. The concept was to be a fort that supported the outer wall but also be protected so that it’s safe should the city revolt or something. Having a building right next to it like you mentioned does compromise it but honestly I just really wanted another building. I hope the bastions purpose will still speak for itself and not be lost

Another thing that came out when I place the new building is that the second level perfectly lines up with the lower balcony of bastion. This goes along the same lines but do you guys think it would be ok to add a small man bridge inbetween the two? My imagination of the gothic feel of 40k suggests always adding more bridges but like you said the bastion should be protected from the outside. Other points are that the bridge would make both areas more playable and could possibly be explained away by the building serving some administrative purpose.



Had to google “machicolations”. Could you explain what a futuristic version of those would look like?

A bridge would work great! If you wanted to have some fun with the hobbying, could always make it a futuristic drawbridge... Maybe looking like the tipping bridges that are on canals and rivers that carry shipping.

Like a smaller version of this:


I don't think the bastion is lost- it still looks awesome and imposing, it just has blind spots for defenders. Of course, this could easily be explained away by the city having been at peace for generations or something, and building codes have been relaxed (and of course, war has finally caught up with the city again...)

Honestly, I don't know how futuristic machicolations would look, but basically they are just there to allow defenders atop the wall to attack enemies at the base. The machicolations are simply the holes to drop/fire stuff through. So you just need some kind of ledge, with some kind of hole to fire down from.

Finally I decided start posting on here. Btoliver and I got more work done this weekend. My focus was on the bridge. I was able to get a couple of the support structures done for the bridge. There is still quite a bit to go but I am liking the results so far.

Yeah, kirque’s bridge is still looking good. It looks like I didn’t make as much progress with my building but squaring everything up and securing it to the table took most of my time



With all this talk about playability I think smaller mobile units are going to work much better on the table. Hence my sentinels. Would also be really cool if renegade guard could get access to these new cult bikes for our seiging army. They could get around most of our map

This whole project is.. Well words can't even begin to describe how awesome this is!

Keep up the good work guys!

We got some work in yesterday. Kerque got the third tower and pylon put together for the bridge as well as cut and re-situated the road. Now the birdge will be secured to the middle table so that it can be disconnected when we are moving the entire diorama. He also started on widening the platform for walkways



I worked on the catacombs a bunch (no picture yet) and then moved on to redoing the second level on the new building. Kerque convinced me it would be better to use all of the new imperial sector wall sections VS mixing in the old ones. That and I needed them for the catacombs. You’ll also see we decided on a smaller third level in the form of just an octagon tower. The idea is some sort of roof top garden. You might also notice the first draft of a man-bridge going from it to the bastion

Here’s a picture of the catacombs after I finally finished getting all the wall sections in. It’s not perfect but that’s what you get from a bunch of sloppy plaster surface recasts. I even ran out of those and had to start using basilica administratum window sections too. I cut out the the windows and filled some in with bricks. The others I plan to cut into the foam behind and set small coffins or bar up

It is truly amazing!

Always a pleasure to have some updates from you guys.

Keep it up please, your blog is also a big source of inspiration!

So I know it doesn't look like we got that far this weekend when you look at the previous bridge images. The fact is that a lot of work went into trueing up the bridge and cutting it into portions so that the middle board could be separated with the bridge main section. Not only that the cobblestone was drawn on and the railing was attached as well as the Piller struts were built. I wish we would have enough time to include the large statues but again that will have to wait for next weekend.

While I worked on the bridge btoliver work on the building by the military bastion. Btoliver will probably go into more detail about that.

here are some more of kerque’s bridge





I also worked on the new building. We are calling it the “govenors” building. The new little bridge is in, as well as the base and top for the roof top tower. Next will be finishing up the entrance ramp and probably adding stairs







I feel like things are finally moving at a good pace. I also started using painters caulk for a lot of the cracks and as an adhesive. It’s working well but I’m concerned about the detail we may loose later as it won’t carve well. Does anyone have experience using painters caulk with foam buildings?

I love that newest building! It perfectly balances a lot of different 40k themes: modernism, functionality, graeco-roman architecture... One thing I really want you to do is add some sort of void shield generator on the rooftop balcony. You wouldn't want your lovely garden party to be spoiled by incoming missiles.

Re painter's caulk: you should be able to sand it down quite easily. I've used it to block gaps in terrain pieces before, but it really depends on how coarse it is.

Kirque and I got a little work done on the board today but I didn’t get around to taking any pictures though. However I did snap this pic of our new inquisition symbols to go on the sides of that building. I found the 3D specs online and had them printed through materialize. They’re about 3’ tall

Started working on the monorail again finally.

decided to dig out all the guardsmen I had been working on before as well.



Looks like I have about
- 4 infantry squads done (3 normal, one marching)
- The casts for another infantry squad (at attention)
- more than enough parts for at least 1 more infantrysquad plus
- 1 full rough rider squad (still need to figure out cloaks)
- 1 Ratlings sniper squad
- 3 scout sentinels
- 1 heavy weapons squad with mortars
- 2 Leman Russ tanks that need some love
- another leman that is just the cast parts

So where that leaves me for a brigade is a lot of Elites and HQ slots to fill.

And Here are some of the bits I have for some HQ and/or a command squad




Glad to be back at it. Hope to make some progress this week

Always an inspiring thread to read

Can't wait to see how that monorail turns out! The PDF troopers look good too, I'm sure they will look the part parading through the grand archways of your cityscape.

Dear Emperor - the sheer mad, mad beauty of it all!


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As for "playability" - pish posh! If you're going to invest that kind of effort in such a thing of beauty, the game needs to change to what you want to play, not the other way around. Who cares if current 40k with its giant bases, blobs, screens and masses of stuff has trouble with it! You could write your own game in 1/100 of the time you're putting into that work of art.

Hey guys,

now that im working on the army again i need some help with customizing some HQ and elite options to fit with my planetary guard theme and my vostroyan regiment rules.

Any ideas of good models/bits for:
- a commander wearing the armor of graf toschenko
- or floating legs or other bits for my primaris psyker

any ideas for elites or other PDF or vostroyan style stuff welcome

im just around 1200 points with the stuff i have in that brigade so could use ideas for another 700-800

thanks

Do you have an image of what you are thinking of for Graf Toschenko?




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http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/Torsos/cuirass-torso

Anvil Industry could fit the bill?

Well I had the idea of using the Lord Commander Solar Macharius model I have

Pic of the from the Internet:


And think it kind of fits with the description from lexicanim.com minus the augmetic part but I’ve never seen an image

“The Armour of Graf Toschenko is suit of ornate augmetic armour, that was once worn by Lord Marshal Toschenko until he was killed by the forces of the T'au Empire during the Nimbosa Crusade. He has now become famous throughout the Vostroyan Firstborn, for his indomitability against the Tau and Toschenko's armour has since been passed to a dozen Commanders who have been considered the Lord Marshal's spiritual descendants.[1]”

Macharius is a good starting point! You could maybe use Skitarii parts if you want to up-tech the Macharius model?

Another option would be to add an exoskeleton to the limbs, to make them look mechanically augmented, and maybe swap the head for something a bit more techie.

 Haighus wrote:
Macharius is a good starting point! You could maybe use Skitarii parts if you want to up-tech the Macharius model?

Another option would be to add an exoskeleton to the limbs, to make them look mechanically augmented, and maybe swap the head for something a bit more techie.

Since its the Vostroyan armor

gotta get that vostroyan fuzzy hat on there.

Also their main aesthetics is that great coat and hat. without the coat it seems strange imho.

i feel like this Bad ass might be a cool place to start


Remove the arms and head, replace with scion arms and maybe the scion helmet + greenstuff hat.

Great ideas!

Here’s an example for the exo skeleton. I’ll probably need some different bits for it but I like it



I like the rouge trader dudes for my pdf too but need to figure out what role they would play and where to buy them. Maybe they could be royal guard and play as themselves?



FYI, my vostroyan don’t where fuzzy hats. That’s just the regiment I play them as.


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And here’s my work in progress command squad

Awesome work on the command squad! Does the vox guy have a Solar Auxillia helmet? In any case, where did you find it?

And may I suggest using this model as a base for your general?

Madness. What an amazing project.

Lighting is crap but not the worst tanks for recast of recast built on top of foam board. Obviously need some accessories to hide the imperfections but that will come after some paint.







Yes the helmet is solar Auxillia. I’m tying to mix that in a bunch with the pistoleros but need some new ones

I think my hq is conceptually rounded out
- commander with squad (pics above)
- commander wearing the armor of graf toschenko (ordering bits)
- floating primaris psyker (ordering bits)

With the skills you've demonstrated thus far, it ought to be a piece of piss for you to make a 'psyker on a stick' with GS robes to hide the stick.

One of my WIPs, for illustration;

That’s cool! I want to do a traitor and cultist army next

I spent last night reorganizing my bits to see what I have



But I had to go on eBay and order some stuff

Oh, the other option for a floating psyker model is to convert something from the Rogue Psyker models in the new Blackstone Fortress boxed game:




Really depends on how much your planet trusts pyskers- if you want them to be in chains, this is a good option to go for. If you want them to look more dignified, then not so much.

We have a winner. After way too Much time in quite a few bit stores I found some dude called the “high elf mage of spire of Dawn island”

Well I think we do. Time will tell



I also got 9 of the 10 guys put together for my “at attention” squad. Just need an idea for the Sergeant. For those of you considering casting you own minis, don’t. These guys were a pain. Tons of huge mold lines and air bubbles. Just getting them to this point took hours. In addition to the casting time

For those of you considering casting you own minis, don’t. These guys were a pain. Tons of huge mold lines and air bubbles. Just getting them to this point took hours. In addition to the casting time.

But they look awesome!

As for the sergeant, you could model him with a cane yelling at the other soldiers? Or something like that.

Finally putting some paint on

FWIW, you're using some of the same heads as Kierdale, over at the Bolter and Chainsword, used on his Mordian Shrineworld Garrison force.

Might be worth a look for inspiration.

Personally, I [Expletive Deleted] love Kierdale's stuff.

catching up on this thread, I love the bridge idea

Hey guys,

Small update.

An entrance I added for the governor’s mansion:



starting my casts for the mountain the cathedral is built on



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And also the progress on a new build kirque wanted to add. Some sort of spill way, sewer, water processing area that pours into our river. It also connects into the Mechanicus building and will add another crossing point. That or he’s building the ninja turtles lair



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I guess I might need to point out this entire area will be covered with cobblestone and essentially be underground

Love it. Is that tunnel large enough for a space marine? Or will you have to send in the guard if the enemy takes to the underground?

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Love it. Is that tunnel large enough for a space marine? Or will you have to send in the guard if the enemy takes to the underground?

Comparing it to the size of the adjacent Sector Mechanicus terrain, it looks like it is. Must be approaching 2" in diametre!

Will make for some cool raids Could model some kind of cult or gang hidout in there? Stick posters on the wall, add a make shift armoury/workbench, some tired sofas...

Yes, the small pipe is 2” and can fit figures, including marines. It will go all the way across to provide an access route the isn’t open to fire like the other bridges.

I like the poster idea too

Also, some quick updates on my army HQ.

For my Commander wearing the armor of graf toschenko I’m going to bail on the mech stuff and just keep him ornate



- for my primaris psyker I found some good wizard bits and a head I think will work. Just need to go back in and start the green stuff sculpting work now

Ooh, those look good.

Where is the ornate sabre from?

Same place a lot of the bits I’ve been using actually, the solar Auxilia command squad

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Solar-Auxilia-Tactical-Command

Both heads are from that set, I’m thinking about switching out the payker gloves from a pair in that set and those helmets are what I cast and used in the rest of the army

So i'm pretty sure i just screwed up all the work i did on my imperial guard squads during the priming phase and need advice if anyone as some.

here's a pic



and my request for advice and details over on the dakka painting page
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/770756.page#10328838

I'm afraid I have no experience in this regard.

I just freaking love those tanks! They look amazing so far.
Really good progress and purely awesome stuff all around since I last visited.

If you mean you have to strip the paint, Fairy power spray has worked pretty well for me.

Great stuff - love the steam tank parts for the turrets - though I feel the guns are a bit big, even for 40K.

The choice of models for conversions is great too. The PDF helmets are really well chosen.

If you want to strip them, 90% alcohol will do the trick even for primer. It won't get all of it off, but it'll get most of it.

Would really be nice to do a project blog that doesn’t have this in it somewhere