If we value the pursuit of knowledge, we must be free to follow wherever that search may lead us. The free mind is not a barking dog, to be tethered on a ten-foot chain.
Adlai E. Stevenson Jr. (1900-1965), speech at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, October 8, 1952
The Thousand Sons- led by the red-skinned, one-eyed Magnus. Sorcerers supreme, and pharaoh-like lords of the world of Prospero. Determined to save the Imperium, damned by their own father for their methods, hunted by their brothers, and finally turned trapped-spirit-armors by their own hands…
…Damn, that sounds cool!!
This is my attempt at a start-to-finish blog of Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons. I’ve yet to read the Thousand Son book, but the PH Thousand Sons caught my eye with their stranger-than-usual design and Egyptian-theme. I’ve had an interest in everything Egyptian since I was a kid (didn’t everyone?), and suffice to say that if ancient Egyptian was still spoken/written in this world, I’d probably be learning to speak that over Japanese/French. (or my native Tagalog/Pangasinan, for that matter!)
But, back to the matter at hand- the humble beginnings of my Thousand Sons. Unfortunately, this one is going to be a bit slower than my already snail-like Phantom Forge (for my random projects- currently Eldar and soon MERCS/ Gladiator WHQ Chars), but I will be building this army (time and money permitting) and will probably use the GK codex for these guys, if/when the painted models can actually form a small army.
My first question as I sort how to build the marines… building this army is going to be ungodly expensive if I’m not careful. For the first 10 guys, I’m using FW Mk III Iron Armour SMs and Phobos-Pattern bolters- 1) because I’m out of modern plastic bolters, 2)because they look more awesome than Umbras and 3) they look less “Deathwatch” than Umbra-Ferrox ones. That combination makes the closest “PH Thousand Sons” to me. To make nearly every squad with this pattern, plus the originally-planned Power Khopeshs and Khopesh-staves from Kromlech/Max Mini… and Egyptian-theme Resin bases from Scibor… yup. I’m looking at around $130.00USD per squad of 10 guys. Holy canoly!!
I’ll definitely have to consider ways of making them “cheaper”. For future guys, I may end up using standard plastic marines (heavily GS’d to cover their modern armor). I’m also considering just buying plasticard and making the khopesh weaponry myself. I could also get a TK skellie box, but that’d leave me with a lot of gear (skeletons and shields) I can’t really use…
Modelling
Any suggestions for good “base” models to use for a “leader”?
Also, how would you suggest doing the small Hercules-beetle “tines” on their helmets? GS? Plasticard? Wire?
Working with Resin
As my army may end up being close to, if not 100% resin, does anyone have any glues they recommend for working with the stuff? Currently using Zap-A-Gap Thin Super Glue and really don’t like it- my bottle is about 3 seconds away from being thrown in the garbage. I was looking into Loc-Tite Control Gel… Any ideas?
Color Schemes
I’m happy enough about the traditional red/gold (or white-silver) colorscheme, but I thought I’d throw a few more out there… just for consideration.
Bleached Bone and Burnished Gold (at least, that’s what the Painter program said…) –very basic, but cream-colored, that’s why I went for it. Blue skull to represent the scarab symbol or crystals- might exchange it for green.
This one was a play on the first, and tried to I, incorporate the fact that the Egyptian Head-dresses were white (at least in pictures, they were) and they had darker skin on their faces and bare chests.
The above idea, a bit more refined. The cream-color is only for the belt and cod-piece, dark skinned, gold wristbands, and shin-guards, mimicking most generic Egyptian reliefs. Blue skull again means blue beetle.
And I’m afraid I’ll have to pass on the Chaos blue/gold Thousand Sons… that scheme just doesn’t appeal to me.
On Order
2 x sets of FW MKIII Iron Armor Marines (10 total)
10 x FW Phobos Pattern Bolters
10 x Scibor Egyptian Bases Recieved 1 x Scibor Egyptian Extras/bits (just for the hell of it) Recieved
Now… to modify one of the 10 guys, or use a different “base” model to make my Thousand Sons first leader….?
@Lipsdapips- Thanks for stopping by! Stay tuned! I'll be starting on the bases this weekend- as the marines are going to be heavily converted, I'm doing them completely separately, and on cork before putting them onto the resin bases for good.
@92acclude- Thanks! I definitely like #2 and #3, but yea... I see what you're saying. It's not quite 1K sons PH if they're not red/gold, right?
Hello again! Just a short update before the weekend- as mentioned in the first post, I’ve received my Egyptian-Theme resin bases, courtesy of Scibor Minis. The bases came with little to no defect (one minor air bubble on a base that I plan to cover with GS, but no biggie) – I’m overall very pleased with the quality and detail on the bases. Check them out for more themed-bases in multiple styles, as well as “Space Knights” of the Celtic/Spartan variety…
These past 2 weeks were a new job transition, as well as finals this weekend. I took a bit of time to clean the bases, and they’re currently primed and ready to paint.
I’ve got a few ideas in mind in terms of the bases’ color scheme- for the traditional red/gold/white PH Thousand Sons colors.
I think this would go nicely with the red color… blue beetle (when present)… sand-brown for the lip of the base and sandy stuff under?
This is more like the original Scibor scheme of pure-white, which would work very well with the red too in terms of stark contrast.
I like the texture and color selection with this one- cream, browns, moccas, grey-blues… But I’m afraid that the predominantly-brown color won’t make as nice of an impact on the final product.
Blues …I’m actually liking the 2nd one more than the first, but I think in this case, the contrast would help bring out the red color.
And finally, the dark horse of the bunch, a blue-grey… that manages to still remain very light.
Again, I’m probably going to go with a traditional Pre Heresy Thousand Son Scheme. (Red, Gold, and White)
Question Time-
What marble color would you choose for red marines?
Thanks for stopping by! I'll be starting on the actual miniatures themselves Sunday after Finals!
Thanks Popsicle! I've wanted to make an army of SMs for a long time, and I'm excited to starting and finishing this one as well! I want it to be perfect, so it's going to be slow, as every single model has to be converted, and I'm going to challenge myself to paint each to a high standard.
Hello again! I present my work on the first three of the 10 initial 1K Sons. The project itself is relatively free- I only have a few guidelines (aside from the colors, which shoulderpad has what symbol). They’re as follows:
1) No two will look the same- differentiation by GS work and base body/armor modification.
2) I’ll be doing the bases and models separately- then assemble.
3) If this is your first night at Fight Club... you have to fight.
I’ve got a few more questions, but I’ll leave those at the end. For now, enjoy the WIP pics.
The MK3 armors are great, but I felt a bit too "studded" for true Thousand Sons. Each of the brothers as you’ll see will have different mods to their armor, both back and front. Some have more studs, some have less studs, some have the “lips” on the armor… some don’t. All different.
More brothers and their respective Egyptian-theme bases awaiting GS work
The very first Son, whom I’ve christened “Quick Man”… LOL… +1 cool points if you get the reference. From the very first pic of the 1K sons, not all of them have the Hercules Beetle tine on their helmets. I’m sure it will be a prevalent design amongst the brothers, but I’ll be sure to sprinkle the ranks with other designs as well.
Back View- I originally thought it would be a coat, more like a Japanese haori, (samurai overwear) but as a test, I did it just as two sashes held with his belt. I’ll research the clothing a bit more, and adjust as necessary.
And here’s work on the second Son. Speaking of samurai, yes, his helmet ornament was intentional. The third Son is actually a standard beetle-tine guy, but these guys with the Quickman/Gundam ‘V’ and samurai/Persian ‘moon’ symbols are much easier to produce…
And the final Son- standard beetle tine helmet. This one is my first try at this symbol- I’ll be refining the process later, but for this one, it’ll stay- needs to be sanded flatter, and have it’s edges smoothed out. Oh, and I probably shouldn’t start by chopping apart I-beam plasticard for flat surfaces… I should just start with thinner plasticard sheet, no?
Also, you’ll notice that some of the marines have either moulded beetle symbols, or flat areas circles/ellipses. The flat circles I intend to freehand, while the ellipse areas, I’ll be using as cartouches to write on.
Anyways, I have a couple of questions for all of you, regardless if you’re just “passing by”…
The standard, as always- Comments? Critiques? Any ways to help my brothers look more “authentic”?
What would you think about battle brothers and battle sisters? And no, I’m not giving them massive DD implants or extensively slimming down the armor into metal bikinis… It will be tasteful and faithful. Probably just head swaps and minor armor conversions. Yes or no? Knowledge doesn’t discriminate, y’know…
Are the head-symbols too thick? Too big? Any ideas for improvement?
Thanks, as always- I’ll be working on the other 2 brothers tonight. Coloring should start before the end of the week!
Thanks Chrono! I hope the finished product lives up to your expectations!
... and I just found out (as I don't personally have the GK codex... yet) that standard GKs have both wrist-mounted storm bolters AND swords. Crappus. Time to buy/make some khopeshs and shotels for these guys who're gripping their weapons with both hands, and put those on their waists.
Tonight will probably be finishing the given three and starting on two more. Realistically, I'll probably start laying paint down on the bases before the figures, as they still won't be complete without their swords/staves.
Yea, that's a big ol' kick in the nuts, as the swords/staves I might buy will be from EU- Kromlech on Ebay.
On the jetbike, I started on it, got killed by Finals, and now I'm starting on these guys. I still haven't forgotten about it, and I'm sure I'll be burned out of painting red pretty soon. I'll ADD it and skip from one project to the other, so that I don't get bored.
Thanks for asking (and helping out with the tut- that still blows my mind that you spent so much time helping me out!) !
What the... I thought I saw all the threads on Thousand Sons (Heresy or otherwise) out on Dakka... counted 4.
I like your stuff, Veritech! I like your take using the GK Terminators... they look excellent, man- good GS work. I could take a few lessons from you!
Yea, I'm definitely going to use those kromlech blades, and again, in a different spin, I'm going to use them as actual swords... although your sword/glaives are pretty damn sweet!
Jus wondering, how long did the stuff take to ship to you (relatively) from EU to USA?
Looking great so far - given any thought to making up master parts for items like the scarab helmet add-on and casting them all in resin for consistency? While you're at it you could make a bunch of emblems for the chest and stuff.
Looking great so far - given any thought to making up master parts for items like the scarab helmet add-on and casting them all in resin for consistency? While you're at it you could make a bunch of emblems for the chest and stuff.
Hi Nimbosa- thanks for stopping by, and thanks for the compliments!
I have... not actually thought about casting them up...
That's a very good idea, come to think of it. Especially if I was to create an actual Fellowship/Company of these guys. However, I must admit that I know absolutely nothing about casting... but... I might know someone who does...
Thanks for the idea! For now, since these guys are low-production, I'll be making them by hand, as I think I'll have maybe 3 or 4 more head-designs before I finish. If it actually comes to it that I make the army on massive scale, or desire true consistency, (which I think I do) I'll definitely give it a go! It'll probably be the 2nd round or 3rd round of creating the symbols, when I start getting awesome at them.
Welcome back to another installment! A couple of setbacks so far to the project, as I want to aggressively convert these miniatures, but I lack the bits to properly move forward. That, and the past two days had crap weather, and that meant no primering/no painting.
This weekend, my cousin Z will be coming over with one of his younger brothers for boozing, commiserating, and of course, talking GK shop. He’ll also be providing me with GK glaive arms and a couple of other bits I might possibly need. This will allow me to complete the Sons I’ve made thus far, and start the painting process. That being said, I present to you the next two sons, who represent the ramping up of conversions and GS work for the army-
As you can see, I’ll be needing those GK glaives/Khopesh arms for this brother and the following. I’ve made it so that both hands are independent of one another, instead of the firm, two-handed grip on the bolter. This also represents the first glued Phobos-pattern bolter… and this brother’s lack of firing discipline, as he’s swinging it around like some kinda gangsta.
Here you can see the bolter a bit clearer- as well as the GS all over his face. I’d like to make a few smooth-helmeted guys, so that’s a test. I’ve sanded it past this pic, but didn’t add it to this post. Also, he has a variation of Quickman’s head thing, which I’ll probably supplement with extra greenstuff, as the thickness of it is actually intentional, not a lazy attempt to copy the previous helm ornament.
This was the first of many more aggressively converted Thousand Sons. This guy got his “running” (more like trotting) legs cut apart, pinned, and GS’d. I modified the helmet to fit the Scibor Egyptian headdress piece, and I actually think it fits rather well after minor alterations to the model and ornament.
I decided to also chop the arm and re-pin it away from the body. I’ve got two plans for this guy: If I can work the GK glaive/staff onto his left arm, I can make him pointing, like a leader. If not, I’ll give him a bolter in that bent back right arm and go crazy on the model’s “true” left bolter-arm to make him firing off a fireball or something.
My hope was to put a pointing bolter/bolt pistol on an extended left arm while doing some sort of OSL on his bent-back right arm holding a staff of some sort… but we’ll see how far that goes. Either way, I’ve got options.
That’s it for now with more work coming this evening and over the weekend.
Tentative Plan (So Far)
- Finish sanding GS work, both old and new of first five Sons
- Begin GS work on shoulder pads if necessary (small wing-tips aiming downward on pads- see first reference picture)
- Finish GS work on previous 2 marines (Headdress marine still needs a flowing cape on the back and/or full haori coat, while the other will receive some sort of votive cloth draped on his shoulderpad)
- Prime and paint 5 bases (still haven’t decided what color to go with, but leaning on blue-grey marble)
- Utilize new bitz to hopefully finish the initial 5, priming all and separated bolters
Thanks for stopping by- and leave a comment/critique, if you please!
I REALLY like the newest model. Fits the fluff perfectly. Those Scibor parts are bomb aren't they. You are slightly ahead of me because I have been working on a display board for them. Keep up the good work.
Have you thought of what time your Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons are from? As in before the Wolves came t Prospero? Just after? During? When I thought about this basing and modeling became much more focused.
I REALLY like the newest model. Fits the fluff perfectly. Those Scibor parts are bomb aren't they.
Thanks! I think he's my favorite of the bunch too, aside from the fact that he now forces me to wait for bitz I don't have yet. And yes, Scibor parts are quite cool, except I don't know what to do with the little shield-things... yet.
Have you thought of what time your Pre-Heresy Thousand Sons are from? As in before the Wolves came t Prospero? Just after? During? When I thought about this basing and modeling became much more focused.
Actually, no, I haven't. I know the history of it... but if I had to guess, it would be in all their glory, pre-Prospero-burning. The bases I'm using are also Scibor, the Egyptian-theme type, and I'll be going with a black or perhaps blue-grey marble? Haven't decided yet. If I had to add other bits, like dead SWs, I think it would, but for now, I think these guys will be from the golden age of the Thousand Sons.
Thanks for stopping by, and I'll be checking yours as well for even more ideas!
Consider me subscribed! I'm already a fan of Mark 3 armor, and your conversion skills are excellent! Your GS work could use a TINY bit of tidying up, especially with the cloth, but otherwise I think it looks great so far! Try some sharper angles/folds in the cloth, more wrinkles, see how that looks!
Consider me subscribed! I'm already a fan of Mark 3 armor, and your conversion skills are excellent! Your GS work could use a TINY bit of tidying up, especially with the cloth, but otherwise I think it looks great so far! Try some sharper angles/folds in the cloth, more wrinkles, see how that looks!
Hey Kepora, thanks for stopping by! I agree, the cloth leaves something to be desired, but that’s what these guys are for- I’ll be practicing more cloth for the future guys as well, not only on the chest-plate areas, but the shoulder pads too. Not to mention I’ve got about 25 more of these guys to go… lol… Either Mark III or Mark IV style armor w/ the proper Thousand Son stylings.
Thanks for the advice- I’ll give it a shot, and you can check out the results (or lack thereof) here!
**Mini-Update**
Unfortunately, due to the crap weather and winds, I wasn’t able to prime… yet again. I did manage to completely assemble 2 of the 5 (Standard beetle-tine “Bob” and the moon-symbol “Cool”), as well as put everything but the backpack and bolter on “Quickman”. He’s got the chest detail that I just won’t be able to reach. If tonight's weather goes against me as well, I’ll be doing more GS work in the form of a cape for the newest figure before sticking on his backpack, as well as starting on the other 5 figures.
Thanks as always, and comments/constructive critiques are always welcome!
I was going to do this very thing! I have a pre-heresy army already but now i want to bring it in line with the GK codex. The Scibor bits are amazing. Its a shame there is little to no use for the storm shields they have. Oh well. I will be following your progress closely to figure out if I want to dive in.
Have you developed an army list yet? I have a few in mind where I try to balance fluff with competitiveness.
I was going to do this very thing! The Scibor bits are amazing. Its a shame there is little to no use for the storm shields they have. Oh well. I will be following your progress closely to figure out if I want to dive in.
Yea, I love the bits. The not-so-obvious smaller ones I haven't figured a use for, but I'll be creative!
I have a pre-heresy army already but now i want to bring it in line with the GK codex....Have you developed an army list yet? I have a few in mind where I try to balance fluff with competitiveness.
To be honest, I've not seen a GK codex yet... at all. This weekend, I plan to rectify it. From the past posts, you'll see that I only just found out the standard GKs use stormbolters on their wrists plus CC weapons... so midstream, I've had to consider mounting some khopesh blades on a side sling for the marines I've already finished who have both hands on their bolters.
But yea, this weekend, I should have a list set up, at least enough to get me in the right direction for future purchases.
You can find Khopesh bits on the internet quite easily. They are thin and need to be pinned though.
The smaller "shield" scibor bits I used on my Sons of Horus Termies since most have the eye of rah on them
Yea, I've got my eye on the Kromlech swords/glaives. They look really good and are exactly what I'm looking for.
Ah... so that's what you meant about the small shield bits. Yea... still haven't come up with anything, but I usually do after staring hard at the models and parts.
Sweet progress!!
Could you please tell me where you got this helmet from?:http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/226666-Conversion%2C%20Greenstuff%2C%20Pre%20Heresy%2C%20Thousand%20Sons%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Work%20In%20Progress.html
Sweet progress!!
Could you please tell me where you got this helmet from?
@ Lipsdapips- Thanks! The set is from Scibor Minis- the set itself comes with that headdress, another version, plus a couple of Egyptian-theme eye shield… thingies for detailing.
Love your conversions mate, hope to see more soon from ya
@Armorum Ferrum- Thanks a lot! My plan was to start small w/ the conversion, and go up. I still have more squad leaders along with the single characters and armor.
Interesting...
@Weetyskemian44 - Truly...? Thanks for stopping by!
**Mini-Update**
Welcome back and thanks for the continued interest in my Sons! This past Memorial Day weekend was supposed to be paint-focused 3 days… but lots of rain and drinking (not in combination) kinda killed the drive for it. I did however, primer and color the first three.
Remember how I said I’d do the bases separately? I lied. It was much easier to manipulate the miniatures set all together. The bases will be much more difficult to complete, but not impossible with the legs in the way.
I started out with a base of really watered down Mecharite Red and brown (forget which one at the moment), and several layers to get a smooth coat. I also picked up VA Scarlet Red and did some zenithal highlights on the first three guinea pigs.
The other two fully base-coated and highlighted. I’m also considering going to almost orange in terms of highlights… haven’t fully decided, but if so, it’ll be done with a standard brush and not an airbrush.
Since I can’t brush straight gold onto red… I’m stuck repainting certain areas that will be gold with SW Grey. I know the standard marines have the gold helmets and white trim on their shoulderpads. I’ve decided that my guys will be fully gold- shoulderpads and all. The white will still be present on the clothing they’ve got on them.
Anyways, I’m a bit farther on that I am on these photos. I’ve also got a couple of GK and Sang-Guard bits from my cousin Z when he stopped by for our yakiniku party. He’ll be coming over again this week to pass over the Thousand Sons novel (whoo hoo!) and help me figure some sort of a list- to help with future purchases. I've been wanting to write some fluff about these guys as I did about my Amazing =I= Men, but I want a look at the established universe before going too far off-track.
And as they're going to be GKs, the CC power-khopeshs are on order from Kromlech EU (along with some bigger stave weapons). For these guys who are already started, I'll paint the weapons separately and attach them later!
Thanks for stopping by! Comments/constructive critiques always welcome!
That helmet looks really good with the Scibor part added as well.
Thanks GiraffeX! They fit rather well, and I've got a pretty good impression of Scibor's stuff from their bases and their extras- very good quality. With minor filing of the Scibor headress and the MarkIII helmet (ear nubs and a bit of the wire headband), it fit perfectly.
I like your take on the Thousand Sons too- the reversed post-Rubric colorscheme looks really good with the wings!
Chaos black
Brazen Brass (or dwarf bronze)
slightly watered-down Golden Yellow
Burnished Gold
Hey Kepora- thanks for the tip. I think I've got a gold that works for me- lighter-silvery, rather than a yellowish. I'll put up the update in a little bit- Lemme know what you think and stay tuned!
-Remi (Hf Iz)
Automatically Appended Next Post: First Son Finished…? Now… fix it.
Welcome back to another installment! I was supposed to finish “greying out” all the areas that were supposed to be red, but I got bored of that and decided to try and finish one of the troops, Quick Man. The good news was, after base-coating, high-lighting, and greying out, finishing them is relatively easy… at least, so I hope. Here are the results, both good and bad on my very first Pre-Heresy Thousand Son.
Good Points- I like the red color, and the gold is closer to the first picture on my blog, which is what I’m going for.
Bad Points- … well, you’ll see below.
Here he is in his semi-finished glory. I’ve still got clean-up work to do on him, final highlights/washes for the gold, as well as finishing up the beetle on his belt. I was feeling so good… I decided to go and screw the model up.
I’m a big fan of battle damage, but I really screwed the pooch on this one. First, it had been a while, and I didn’t plan it properly enough- did I want fresh off the assembly line 1K sons, or battle-worn ones? Or something in between. SO… what I came out with was a Thousand Son looking like he got into a fight with someone armed with a salt-rock shotgun. The battle damage isn’t convincing… yup. Time for a repaint.
Anyways, that’s it for now. I have more work and pics coming tonight, fixing this fool as well as getting the other two guys. Kromlech blades/glaives are on order as well and should be arriving June 10-17. Also starting to consider several models for a leader-type model I can GS into a fitting commander. Before we end, a couple of questions for you all…
Should I do battle damage? Or totally fresh Sons w/ barely a scrape on them?
Any comments/constructive critiques about the color choices? Any ideas to make them better?
As always, thanks for stopping by the OTSOSaaT blog!
Keep them fresh for now and add a little battle damage each time they participate in a memorable game.... a bit like a medal or badge of honour. That way particularly useful or units which perform well will look more like the veterans that they are.
dantay_xv wrote:Keep them fresh for now and add a little battle damage each time they participate in a memorable game.... a bit like a medal or badge of honour. That way particularly useful or units which perform well will look more like the veterans that they are.
I second this idea. I see the Thousand Sons as a Chapter at their zenith. As such they should have perfectly kept armor unless they have been on a campaign for a while.
dantay_xv wrote:Keep them fresh for now and add a little battle damage each time they participate in a memorable game.... a bit like a medal or badge of honour. That way particularly useful or units which perform well will look more like the veterans that they are.
Hey hey! That’s not a bad idea!
veritechc wrote:I second this idea. I see the Thousand Sons as a Chapter at their zenith. As such they should have perfectly kept armor unless they have been on a campaign for a while.
Well-said. You put into words the rationale I was trying to use to justify my decisions NOT to add it when I spoke with my cousin about it yesterday.
**Mini-Update**
Unfortunately, this one does NOT come with any new or noteworthy pics. Yesterday was spent picking up a Sakura Pigma Micropen in 005 black, some Flow-Aid, brush cleaner, learning how to use said-items, then cleaning up the near-finished Son from his bogus battle damage.
I’m going to continue converting for tonight, perhaps finishing up Quick Man’s base, and starting up on the guy with the ‘V’ head.
I also have another question- Does anyone know what color the Sons’ “piping” is? The cables and such, I figure are gold or silver, or OSL green/blue if I wanted to get crazy. But I’m talking about the joints between the codpiece and upper leg-plates, the accordion-like stuff that connects the armor pieces, especially between the legs/hips and arms/shoulders.
As always, any comments or constructive critiques about the modeling and painting are welcome- especially the painting, as I’d like to improve the look on these guys as a high-standard army.
Do you have the Horus Hersy Collected vision book, or any of the 3 volumes it was made from.... it has tons of cool artwork in it of all the legions as they go through the heresy.
dantay_xv wrote:Do you have the Horus Hersy Collected vision book, or any of the 3 volumes it was made from.... it has tons of cool artwork in it of all the legions as they go through the heresy.
Adrian Smiths artwork really rocks!!
Will see if I can find a pic or 2 for you tonight
I'm afraid I don't. I'm getting the 1K Sons book this week/weekend from my cousin, but I could ask him- there's a chance he might have it as well...?
And yes, please! If you can get me some reference pics, that'd be great!
I found a number of images, all of which are cool from the Horus Heresy artwork book (bloomin good book). I scanned through the first half and found these, it will probably be most of them..
Enjoy, btw it doesnt really answer your question on trim, maybe make troops with different abilities have different trim/spot colour, such as Corvidae etc.
Looks good! I agree that the battle damage kindov spoiled it though. Its really great to see older varients of power armour - I got bored of vanilla flavour marines years ago
I like how some trim is gold while others are silver or even white. Provide legitimate options for different squads and specialties or level of command.
LOL, no problem. I appreciate you helping me decorate/research my Thousand Sons blog!
weetyskemian44 wrote:Looks good! I agree that the battle damage kindov spoiled it though. Its really great to see older varients of power armour - I got bored of vanilla flavour marines years ago
DOH! Don't remind me. I've just painted the guy back and fixed it, he might be a teensy weensy bit off color, but still cool.
Deuce11 wrote:I like how some trim is gold while others are silver or even white. Provide legitimate options for different squads and specialties or level of command.
As do I- although to be honest, I'm more a fan of the gold and at a low, low second silver. I don't know.. the white just doesn't do it for me, especially the snow-white tassle mane. My guys are probably going to be standard gold and perhaps silver. We shall see.
Thanks for your continued interest! Stay tuned too, I've had it on my mind to try out a totally different way of painting these guys to give them depth and turn up the skill level on them, as to me, they seem a bit flat and not indicative of better work from me... at the moment. In order to stave it off until I've collected all my supplies, I'll be converting the last of the initial 5 tonight, pics to come later! And if I find i have even MORE time, I'll start prepping and chopping apart the next 5 guys, er, I mean... constructing and converting them.
The gold is probably more to denote the psykers within the t-sons, als the rubric turned those with non psychic abilities to dust, and almost like automatons, the psykers were there to guide them. Or thats how I thought it went.
Ahriman freaked when he saw that the change was affecting the psykers the most. You will find out in "Thousand Sons" when you read it. Even thoubn they were marked as damned by the Imperium, there were a good few noble souls within the T-sons (and thats hard to say, as I am a SW fan)
Ah... that makes sense, I think. We'll see if I go full codex on these guys... I might use the white/silver on my next set of guys (Maximus Armor Type), and probably use these first 10 (split) as some sort of honor-guard types..?
Yea, I'm looking forward to reading the book- I heard that among other things from my cousin who is passing me his copy this weekend. Friggin' excited!
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Just thought of something... I might actually use the Gold/Silver/White, but not on the trim. I'm going to use it for the free-hand beetles on their ... left shoulderpads? Those will denote the color, rimmed with the gold for all, as it's my favorite look for each.
dantay_xv wrote:It is certainly better than Battle for the abyss, where the Thousand Sons also appeared.
I wouldn't know- I've only gotten as far as Adeptus Mechanicus in the series, but since I'm doing these guys, my cousin is passing the book for inspiration...
Magos Explorator wrote:I'm using gold on mine, as I think it works well. For me at least, I thought white trim was a bit bright. I am doing iconography in off-white, though.
Agreed. I like the gold, but the white is too... um... bright. I'm sure it'd look cooler with battle damage , but as the pristine guys I'm trying to make right now? I can tell already it'll leave me disappointed if I push it.
Thanks for stopping by! I've got another mini-update today. It should have been a monster, but my puppy had a surgery consult I just couldn't miss. I got a bit in after that and dinner, so stay tuned for my first "leader"... who might be dipping into the heresy juice...?
-Remi (HF Iz)
Automatically Appended Next Post: Mini-Update- Did Thousand Sons have prosthetics... or am I becoming some sort of... deviant?
Good afternoon! I don't know if this is going to auto-append, but whatever.
As I said before, I wanted to do more (will do over the weekend) but got caught up after work with some personal health stuff for my dog. He's alright for now, but we're scheduling him for going under the knife sometime next week...
Anyways, I got a little, teensy bit of work done. The problem with the FW marines is that every single one of them has the two-handed grip, which means I've got to be creative and NOT waste arms, because they're damn expensive! With that in mind, I scoured my older bitz box left at my parents' house, and found an older edition command squad that I had primered and started painting basecoats on. After a Pinesol bath, I decided to start using them for paint/new primer tests, and bitz.
Also, I had mentioned my cousin gave me some much needed GK accessories.And below is the combination... still devoid if GS work, but about 70% along before I start the painting phase.
The command squad came with a vanilla SM captain w/ stormbolter and powersword, an apothecary, a techmarine, a banner bearer, and a sergeant guy yelling. I took the techmarine body and sawed off his prosthetic bolt-pistol-holding hand. I took the original FW "cupping" arm and cut the angle, chopped off the hand right below the elbow guard, and pinned both halves together. To get the right angle, I chopped the upper edge of the shoulder, sanded that, and pinned at an off-angle, instead of straight on.
I debated whether to use the GK hand and cut off the FW hand, or vice-versa. I finally decided on using the GK hand (although, it is suprisingly SMALLER than the FW hands...) for security and rigidity of the model. The model still needs GS work. I need to do the accordian filler stuff between his shoulder and extended prosthetic arm, as well as the staff. I'm planning on utilizing most of it, changing the skull to scarabs, and extending the larger spikes into wavy kris blades like the 1K Sons army symbol.
That's it for now, a bit disappointing, really, but my little buddy/family will always come before my hobbies. Either way, I hope I can get more done this weekend.
As always, comments (both positive/negative) and constructive critiques are always welcome to help me improve! Thanks for stopping by!
lipsdapips wrote: It's looking great man!
You're both a fantastic converter and a fantastic painter!
Thank you very much and I’m glad you like what you see! Enjoy the update below!
Thousand Sons Building Extravaganza!!...
… because I don’t have the proper materials to start or finish painting...
Welcome back to another installment! This weekend was my last one before my grad classes start up again. I decided that since I couldn’t continue painting, I’d construct and GS a few more guys.
Same as before, I spent an hour or so Friday afternoon making head-pieces. I spent a bit of Saturday afternoon clipping/filing/sanding the other 5 starter MKIIIs I had. And on Sunday, put them in a soap bath and scrubbed them. Below, the components getting ready for assembly
6] Originally, I wanted one of the guys to be a leader, armed with a heqa (the curvy Egyptian staff-head) in scepter or rod form. But the more I thought about it, I found it was a good opportunity to waste old bits from the older-edition Command Squad on some new resin guys. Push the bar, so to speak. I chopped the banner bearer’s arm off, cut off the banner stave (pewter, hard to straighten and heavy) to replace. I drilled a slanted hole through the hand, and inserted wire for a “core”.
Taking some thin copper rod and inserting it over the ends… voila! The beginnings of my banner bearer!
The new recruits, ready to receive their GS treatment.
First one up is one of, if not the leader of the squad. This is going to be two-part. I did the accordion-suit under the plating for the underarm, as well as the wrist on the staff-hand. I intend to do more by putting wiring and piping GS to add a bit more detail, as well as begin work on the staff to make it more… 1K like, and less… GK-ish.
Here’s one that I’m particularly proud of. This guy got the whole treatment- circles, ellipses, scarabs, arm-fills that will probably never see the light of day… and then I also wanted to try something different for the helmet. Like the other guy, who had his helmet-vents filled in, this guy had another variation that allows me to detail below the eyes, something like an eye of Horus? I also decided to change the leggings, and filled out the legs to be thicker, chunker, and have square knee-protectors. I’ll be finishing his other leg tonight, along with any loin cloths, streamers, capes, etc. I decide to adorn my crew with.
Here’s that banner bearer again, but with his GS work partially done. The raised arm was a complete nightmare, but after chopping, gluing, and fixing previous chops and glues, I came out with this frankenmagic. I’m using GS to cover up the horrific chop-job, as well as creating a forearm protector for the banner hand (gotta match!). Finally, the chest is incomplete right now- I want to have the “X” harness on this one, not to mention streamers coming from his belt.
Another relatively simple brother with initial GS work finished, awaiting GS cloth-work tonight.
And one final shot of the guys done tonight. I can’t wait to see them painted! (See, rather than the actual act of painting itself… that’s a bothersome chore I reserve for single minis… but an entire army?? Magnus protect me.)
Anyways, that’s it for now. Thanks for stopping by! Any tips, hints, etc. for shaping GS or any suggestions would be great! Also, as always, comments and constructive critiques are welcome.
Another update for you all today. As I mentioned in the previous update, all required GS work of some kind- either repair, details, or cloth. I present Part 1 of that today.
(How do I know it’s Part 1? Because I’m not finished yet, you silly goose! But I’m almost certain there won’t be a Part 3, unless it’s an entirely different set of guys… aka the last 2 models awaiting construction and conversion)
I realize they’re quite small, and slow, but it’s not cool doing a lot of GS work on one small surface, only to have your destructive meat hooks destroy your work looking for someplace to hold onto… So, presentation and work in layers!
Sorcerer
For the sorcerer, I started initial work on his staff- shaving down the GK skull motif, and adding GS to mould into scarabs. Still deciding what to do with that spikey ring on the outside. I could try to make the outer rim mimic the 1K sons chapter insignia… or I could chop of ¼ of the ring (bottom ¼ facing away from the figure) to make a sort of heqa look…? No solid ideas popping out at me yet.
I also GS’d a cable from the shoulder pad to the chest armor. And finally, on the staff-arm, I GS’d the start of a purity seal (minus seal, for now).
Standard Bearer
For the bearer, I said that I wanted a different kind of chest-plate for him. I GS’d the cross strap type cabling type chest plate.
He also got initial GS basing for his forearm guard (yea, I know, it’s not filled in perfectly yet… round 2 tonight for sanding, filling and reshaping) and a cable from torso to shoulder, like the previous sorcerer.
Other
And finally, one other start to a seal on another 1K son, one of the previous batch awaiting a sword hand.
Question for you all-
Anyone work extensively with GS? Any cool methods for making purity seals? What do you think of mine? How can I improve them?
Thanks for stopping by. As always, comments and constructive criticism is always welcome!
I am subscribed! haha awesome stuff man, pretty inspirational, and to answer your question if you head on over to painting and modelling tutorials here on dakka I believe there is still an awesome tutorial on purity seals by insomniak.
Moartiki wrote:I am subscribed! haha awesome stuff man, pretty inspirational, and to answer your question if you head on over to painting and modelling tutorials here on dakka I believe there is still an awesome tutorial on purity seals by insomniak.
Hey, welcome to the blog, and welcome to Dakka! I'll be checking the P&M tutorial later tonight! Thanks for the tip!
ZephyrRey wrote: Pretty neat stuff bro, Love the old mark armour you're using!
Thanks! I love both pre/post heresy, but the Thousand Sons of old have some of the coolest looking armor out there... and the closest match was the FW MarkIII type. Thanks for stopping by, and welcome to Dakka!
warwookie wrote:A really nice start so far I can't wait to see more of these guys.
And see more, you shall! Welcome to Dakka!!
Thanks for stopping by and one more time, from myself and the rest of the Dakka community, welcome!
TheChronoTrigger wrote:Just got back from my honeymoon. Incredible progress in one week!
Hey, man! Welcome back! How was the 'moon and where'd you go? LOL... incredible progress... or small gains incredibly stretched to seem like more...?
Jus kiddin'. Appreciate you stopping by, as always!
-Remi (HF Iz)
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Warwookie took me by surprise!
warwookie wrote:Thank you very much
And my pleasure, i love the thousand sons and i love what you're doing with them
Not a problem. It's good to see new people here. (And no, I won't start going into creaky knees mode and starting sentences with "back in my day..." ) You and me both- I've loved the look of the Thousand Sons since I first started the hobby in 1662... er... whenever I started... a decade ago? Yea, whatever. Something like that.
There are bunch of 1K sons out there on this one- most within a page or two of the P&M Blogs by some other folks if you like to see all of our takes on them!
Dude, how did i lose this thread!?? Could have sworn i subscribed right at the beginning!
Still, your making good progress, i can already see your GSing improving with continued use. ANd dont forget, small increments of progress is a whole lot better than none at all!
As for GS tips, did you pick up colour shapers in the end? Royal sovereign size 2 clay shapers are the ones i (and many others i believe) use. Fro seals, if you roll it out thin onto a bit of see through plastic sheet, and let it almost cure it becomes very easy to make it look like paper
Hey! Thanks for stopping by Vit! I've picked up a set of super-small colour shapers (maker escapes my mind at the moment) and I gotta say, they're friggin' amazing. I love the play in the silicon blades that helps make the scarabs easy. Now I use a combination of hobby knife, the shapers, and the metal tools, although the metal tools have fallen by the wayside when the shapers came in... Great buy, great recommendation.
And don't trip about the thread- I'm not surprised, actually. There are about 5 or 6 of us Sons out there... each are awesome in their own right.
Stay tuned- school just started up, but it's looking like it's not going to be too bad this quarter... aka I'll have time to model!
HF Izanagi wrote:Hey! Thanks for stopping by Vit! I've picked up a set of super-small colour shapers (maker escapes my mind at the moment) and I gotta say, they're friggin' amazing. I love the play in the silicon blades that helps make the scarabs easy. Now I use a combination of hobby knife, the shapers, and the metal tools, although the metal tools have fallen by the wayside when the shapers came in... Great buy, great recommendation.
And don't trip about the thread- I'm not surprised, actually. There are about 5 or 6 of us Sons out there... each are awesome in their own right.
Stay tuned- school just started up, but it's looking like it's not going to be too bad this quarter... aka I'll have time to model!
-Remi (HF Iz)
I've been looking at the Clay Shapers myself. Can you check the brand and where you purchased them from?
veritechc wrote:I've been looking at the Clay Shapers myself. Can you check the brand and where you purchased them from?
No doubt, man. I'll find out tonight and get back to you early morning tomorrow. They are definitely worth the purchase- maybe $35USD for a set of 5? 6? I found the set at a local art store chain, Dick Blick (*snicker* ) I primarily use the chisel and Xacto-style tools out of the group, but definitely awesome. The amount of control you get is amazing.
Vitruvian XVII wrote:Id imagine they'll be Royal Sovereign.
Aye, that be the white whale, holy grail of shapers.
Get the tiny ones... I accidentally ordered the huge ones ... LOL... I can take a reference picture for you guys if you want later. They're the proper size for wizard wands... but yes.. get the tiny ones!
veritechc wrote:Thank you. Just ordered them and they came to $36.00 with shipping and painful California tax.
Awesome (that you bought them, not that you had to eat crappy CA taxes)- I'm almost certain you won't regret the purchase. Mine happen to have light blue silicon tips, not grey, as in the picture. Would have preferred grey, actually... but meh... whatever.
Whenever you get to try them out, lemme know how you like them.
In other news, I just put in an order for a Finecast Emperor's Champion. I plan to convert him into Hathor Maat or equivalent. I should have Part 2 of the GS work done this weekend. On the plate are one more headdress leader, as well as two Sons armed with "incinerators"...
And I should be recieving my kromlech khopesh-bits aaaaanyy day now...
Alright, sorry for the long absence! Aside from starting a new round of classes, I recently (finally! ) recieved the following from an order placed early June.
12 of these beauties...
12 of these...
And for some odd reason... I got one of these...?
Now that I've got these, the previous three I've started painting can finally have their blades added to their waist-bands, and/or GS them into scabbards. For the rest, I'll find creative ways to put them into their hands.
Also on order is a Finecast Emperor's Champion (please... please... PLEASE be a good copy) to be converted into my mini-force's first leader.
Question- Does anyone have any ideas/recommendations for "pretty/feminine-handsome" faces that'd fit a 28mm space marine? I want to make an equivalent of Hathor Maat/pretty boy as the first guy... I just hate that name. I think something like "Kerpheres" would suit better.
Also in the pipeline, and perhaps taking away what limited time I have already, is a start to an invite-only contest (more like an exhibition amongst friends) here on Dakka! Many thanks to the sponsors/founders PDH and Baiyuan. I'll be linking my progress to my Phantom Forge, as that's for my random projects, but check out ouor progress and fluff on-
I've got a bit more GS work to do with the previous group (aka GS detailing Part 2), heavy conversions for the Champion, and hopefully a heavy session of airbrush painting using some new gear I've got.
Next purchase after all 10 (+ Leader) are painted will either be FW Heresy Jetpackers x 5... (or the Maximus-Armor guys + Chapterhouse backpacks) OR... Terminators. I'll see what my force needs next.
Vitruvian XVII wrote:Perhaps a BA specific head, their hair at least is foppish. Maybe an Empire noble head or something, its a difficult one for sure.
Hey Vit!
Now you just need to build the models to put the weapons on...
True... My bet was to take either the Sang Guard mask(one generously donated from my cousin Z ) and modify it to make it "human" (aka no crazy blood crown things) or one of their human faces (one generously stolen from my cousin Z )... haven't looked into the Empire nobles... or Empire FB faces at all... might have to check that out as that same cousin has a set of them too... I forgot to add that Kromlech added a Not-Grey Knight Power Halberd x 1 pc in my order as well, along with that Ork head. I might be able to trade it instead of, uh... liberating parts, when next I meet my kin.
And yea... lol, some guys will have their blades strapped to their waist, but I really want them to be wielding them as well. First guy to get the treatment will probably be the Emperor's Champion who is on his way to the nearest GW for pickup. I'm already set on picking up the Archangel (new sculpt from Scibor- check out the discussion/sculpt here. Now THAT's a pretty-boy worthy of the Sons)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/318249.page
Thanks for stopping by and the advice on the head!
not the best images however they should be enough to give you an idea, hope that helps
Hey, Asylum, thanks for the suggestions! I'm really feeling that Pistolier head! The androgenous look would work, but I have a nagging feeling that the thinner faces would work against the thicker-armor aesthetic.. (or perhaps I should take a look at the "Pretty Marines" again...?) Either way, that's a great start! I never even thought to look at the HE riders- I thought they were wearing helmets..
I'll definitely have to research further- the Silver Helm and Pistolier heads have definitely caught my eye. And I definitely appreciate the help from you and Vit so far! My first (and sadly, only) idea was to buy a whole metal/resin mini and chop its head off...
I love using random heads for my marines so I have a list of ones I want to get. GW seem to include at least one bare head in just about every squad box they produce at the moment so there are some absolute gems out there
Asylum_Inmate wrote:I love using random heads for my marines so I have a list of ones I want to get. GW seem to include at least one bare head in just about every squad box they produce at the moment so there are some absolute gems out there
Same here, I want the unique look, but definitely want that integrity there that'll still make it "believable". (as believable as little plastic soldiers can be, anyways... *ahem* sorry. miniatures... as believable as miniatures can be)
I'll be gathering that up shortly- more progress to come... it irks me a bit when I'm posting on my blog but I've got nothing new to show for it... soon... very soon...
Igandris wrote:This is a great thread Izanagi. I'm really looking forward to seeing more.
Have you thought about using DE heads for your Hathor Maat?
They're pretty androgynous. Inmate pretty much posted all other ideas I had.
EDIT: Sigvald's head could work pretty well but that might be a little pricey...
Hey Igandris- I stopped by your =I= thread- very promising start. Out of all the goodies you can see on the Dakka forums, those blogs are probably my favorite due to the story and character growth potential... and makes me want to go back to my dead (although, seriously reconsidering reanimation) Promethean Hammer =I= Munda thread. (see sig) I'll drop by again to formally comment later!
Sigvald was THE model I was thinking... but to chop him to pieces for only the head... yowza.
Stay tuned. I'll be doing a lot of modelling and painting using inspiration from another thread "Eggroll's BAs"... great airbrushing, and I like the more somber red and shading techniques he uses... hopefully I don't butcher mine trying to emulate it.
biccat wrote:You might want to search ebay for user irina_est
Some very impressive Thousand Sons conversion parts available.
Also, liking the work so far. Although this might turn into a pretty expensive project
Hey Biccat! Thanks for the info! I just checked out that User...
I'm almost certainly not going to go for the Egyptian Knight standard bodies as I want to convert them myself without all the details already there... but the not-terminator bodies are really intriguing.. I'm definitely picking up a pack of those, a pack of the other MK armours that person carries as well... more bang for my buck.. instead of FW $120.00 per squad of 10 guys... Jeezass...
Lol... not even July, and already my money is called out for.
HF Izanagi wrote:I'm almost certainly not going to go for the Egyptian Knight standard bodies as I want to convert them myself without all the details already there... but the not-terminator bodies are really intriguing.. I'm definitely picking up a pack of those
Yeah...loving those not-Terminators. It's basically an idea I had floated around earlier (heads like Egyptian gods). I'm wondering if that user trolls dakka for ideas...
biccat wrote:Yeah...loving those not-Terminators. It's basically an idea I had floated around earlier (heads like Egyptian gods). I'm wondering if that user trolls dakka for ideas...
Yea, those not-Terminators are definitely awesome- I'll definitely be working on them- some of the animal heads will be cool, but I want some with the tiny SM helmets w/ 1K sons details on them... more in-line with the original concept art.
LOL... who knows but I wouldn't be surprised if that guy did troll here for ideas... Some of the projects out there... Starcraft-style armies, 5-Flavor 1K Sons, =I= Munda characters of x-men fame and another guy who made Duke Nukem, Terminator, Lobo, Snake Plisskin, Rambo...
...not to mention the people who scratchbuild titans and their own models...
neil101 wrote:love what your doing with those heresy boys Izanagi, great stuff matey .
Thanks Neil! I appreciate it. Sadly, there might be fewer updates next month when we start the PMW contest. Either way, I'll try to keep up with all of it and have my new material on here soon!
Asylum_Inmate wrote:I love using random heads for my marines so I have a list of ones I want to get. GW seem to include at least one bare head in just about every squad box they produce at the moment so there are some absolute gems out there
Same here, I want the unique look, but definitely want that integrity there that'll still make it "believable". (as believable as little plastic soldiers can be, anyways... *ahem* sorry. miniatures... as believable as miniatures can be)
I'll be gathering that up shortly- more progress to come... it irks me a bit when I'm posting on my blog but I've got nothing new to show for it... soon... very soon...
I also really like using heads from chaos marauders or marauder horsemen for my veterans. the standard marine heas are either bald or really short haired much like real military haircuts, veterans and special forces types dont seem to have the same restrictions on hairstyles (as far as I can tell). So long hair and angry faces just seem to say veterans/special ofrces to me.
Also, I know what you mean about posting when I have nothing to show for it, however I have had some serious bad luck with my blog. I am currently on my 3rd camera, my best one wont switch on , my housemates wouldnt switch on and my back up camera goes through a set of batteries every 20 pictures and doesnt recognise the card when I plug it in... so gotta get a card reader now, I think I might be jinxed
Asylum_Inmate wrote:Thought I would share this with you too, just saw it on e-bay, granted I know you prefer to do your own stuff, this might give you ideas though
Asylum_Inmate wrote:Thought I would share this with you too, just saw it on e-bay, granted I know you prefer to do your own stuff, this might give you ideas though
Thanks! I've been looking for that... I don't see how he's been "converted"... looks like the Magnus model almost everyone has...
I have a horrible secret though... and I hope you won't be offended (as I appreciate the gesture of helping me research... a true brother 1K Son)...
Spoiler:
I think Magnus is one ugly . I dislike him out of all the primarchs, especially since his legion are Egyptian, and there is no real "tie" with him to his Sons, except that he's a sorcerer supreme... but looks-wise? Might as well put Batman among the My Little Ponies and call him their leader. I might have to try my hand at making a different version of Magnus later...
kaneka wrote: Love this stuff.. taking notes, especially since I've just started a pre-heresy project of my own!
I wish I had the stones to modify FW stuff, the few I have are near on sacred status ^^
I also agree... but when you see something you want soooo bad... yea... I can't help myself. BUT.... I can help you! If you want explanations or something, in depth, pictures, tuts even, let me know. They're expensive as hell, that's why I'm buying them only 10 at a time, or a FW vehicle per month, and that'll be the ONLY thing I buy- because they all take so damn long to make.
What you say reminded me of what I said when I first tried out charcoal as an art medium... scary, but once you get the hang of it, the resin pinning and modelling is cake!
Neil101 wrote:I know what yuo mean , at those prices it takes some balls , i tend to wait a while until i get bored looking at the same model
@Izanagi , that collected visions book is stunning, and you are really capturing the feel of the artwork.
LOL... not necessarily balls... but if you're proclaiming in some offhand way that I've got a brass/steel pair, then by all means, proclaim away!
But thank you for the compliment, Neil - I look up to your work (and your prodigiousness... holy ) so coming from you, I'm honored and happy! m(_ _)m <- my deep prostration emoticon
Thank you all for your continued interest- our electricity was out for the past two days where I lived, and I was out on business all this Friday morning. To come back to so much interest... simply amazing! I'll be working all Sunday long on the guys- I should be able to finish them and paint most of them up. One note though, the kromlech khopeshs are more like hand-and-a-half swords... they're pretty big... No wonder VeritechC used them as spear-heads...
Asylum_Inmate wrote:Thought I would share this with you too, just saw it on e-bay, granted I know you prefer to do your own stuff, this might give you ideas though
Thanks! I've been looking for that... I don't see how he's been "converted"... looks like the Magnus model almost everyone has...
I have a horrible secret though... and I hope you won't be offended (as I appreciate the gesture of helping me research... a true brother 1K Son)...
I take no offence at all, I spend my days sat at work trying to avoid actually doing any work by searching for random parts/conversions/models/tools, sometimes I find something that fits what I am doing, sometimes something that fits what others are doing, so I share
As for the whole 'converted' thing I get the feeling its become one of those terms that gets applied to everything like 'pro-painted' when more often the term 'kit-bashed' and 'painted' are a more accurate description of whats been listed, maybe I am just cynical lol
Asylum_Inmate wrote:As for the whole 'converted' thing I get the feeling its become one of those terms that gets applied to everything like 'pro-painted' when more often the term 'kit-bashed' and 'painted' are a more accurate description of whats been listed, maybe I am just cynical lol
LOL- That’s the truth. I stopped searching for models that way after every single entry had “pro-painted” attached to it on Ebay, and frankly, I’d consider maybe 80% of it to be on par with my own quality or below… and I am a very… VERY… far reach from pro.
Asylum_Inmate wrote:Brilliance! I love the work you've already done and am looking forward to more!
Thank you very much! I’m glad you enjoy it!
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Progress, Paint… and now… Flesh Change
Captain Kepheres of the Pavoni walked slowly through the Resting Chamber. The name, a euphemism created by the former commander of the Hand of Osiris, would have shocked an ordinary mortal walking through this perversion of a graveyard, its interred on display for all to see. The hold was an eerie field of twisting metal cables, and glass capsules holding every manner of deformed monster… his brothers.
Kepheres was considered a master of his abilities, on par with the legendary Hathor Maat.. though, he never thought of himself the equal of one of his legion’s fallen legends. He stopped and paced slowly in front of two particular capsules; one a Pyrae brother named Bakari, and Nassor, his fellowship’s standard bearer. His heart felt what could be considered regret, or sadness, but quickly hardened as he drifted into his thoughts, hell-bent on redeeming his cursed kin.
As he lifted into the aether in his thoughts, he felt the a psychic cry of anguish and what sounded like thunderous fists hitting hollow walls, somewhere in between the realm of real and the Great Ocean… the cry of a god and their many-named patron, the one who had come to resurrect their Legion… Izanagi, Mamon,Baku, Nameless One, Dreamseer… Remi…
Welcome back to another installment of the Thousand Sons: 1SaaT! This weekend was school and dinner/movie on Saturday, and modeling work all Sunday. I also tried using the new colored-primer for a new style of painting inspired by Eggroll’s Blood Angels (see Most Popular Forums on main-page). I like the more somber colors he uses on his BAs, and thought my Sons could do with a less garish paint-job and more grounded in grimdark. Without further ado, progress-
This took a bit of figuring out how I’d make the cross piece. I think next time, I’ll be using plasticard for the whole thing, as drilling through a rolly piece of copper really sucked. There’s a pin attached to the crosspiece stuck into the main banner pole tube.
Here’s the final detail for the streamers between his legs. Honestly, they suck, and I’m going to do them again. They look alright for shape, but they weren’t cooperating with me. Note to self- slightly thicker material needed.
One of the other brothers with his loin-cloth finished.
And here is one of the unfinished first batches… my first counts-as Incinerator. What do you think? GS is balled and anchored onto the open palm, and teased into shape using eyebrow tweezers.
Here are the leader of the unit and one of his co-horts sprayed with the new red-colored primer. Notice that it’s darker… like dried blood. The color will still be somewhat vibrant, but… just check Eggroll’s work. It’s amazing, and I think a PH Thousand Son army in similar colors would be a fresh and beautiful, new take on them.
And finally… the flesh change… NooooOOOOOOOOO!!!! I originally bought two cans, but one screwed up right away, and it’s currently in-repair. However, the other one worked fine… perhaps the box was dusty…? Perhaps I sprayed from too far-away?? Either way… I ended up with this nasty, grainy look on the backside of one of my boys, and the front of my beloved standard bearer… (Note- I just found out banners are carried by terminators, NOT standard GK strike squads… dammit.)
However, all hope is not lost- I gave one of them a test-bath in Pinesol and water… most of the stuff is off… however, it also softened and destroyed the loincloths… banner bearer is going to get the treatment tonight. Also picking up a new spray box... as I'm almost certain it was the dust or particles that did this to my Sons!
About you bad primer experience. That has happened to me before. Generally I find its the humidity that causes "blobbing" or temperature. Either way I would throw that bad can of primer away just to be sure.
To fix the figures Pinesol will work but simple green is much better and will not eat your green stuff. Just let them soak in it for a night.
I love your counts-as Incinerator. The flames are great. Have a quick tutorial on making them?
About you bad primer experience. That has happened to me before. Generally I find its the humidity that causes "blobbing" or temperature. Either way I would throw that bad can of primer away just to be sure.
To fix the figures Pinesol will work but simple green is much better and will not eat your green stuff. Just let them soak in it for a night.
I love your counts-as Incinerator. The flames are great. Have a quick tutorial on making them?
Hey Veritech, thanks for stopping by! I was a bit worried about the reception to the darker red, but positive feedback from another Thousand Son is promising.
Yea, the Pinesol works fairly well, especially after longs soaks with my metal minis... but I'm a bit afraid what it'll do to my resin after a few hours... I'll definitely look into Simple Green. I've also heard good things about it, just no time to grab some... perhaps tonight?
As to the tutorial, of course. Would you care for all words? Or explanation and pictures? Let me know.
Lol... and if I have to get down to details... do I have to tell you what brand of tweezers I have?? I swear, they're not mine. Rather, they are mine... but... I bought them for the sole purpose of sculpting my bro-... miniatures.
Either way, let me know, and I should have a quick but detailed tutorial for you tonight, if I have a repaired computer by tonight.
I am a huge thousand sons fan myself, the ONLY thing i dont like about them is that they fight for chaos , but i love their look,history, playstyle. and your models are FREAKEN AWESOME!
tony_nids_10 wrote:Great work. I find myself checking entirely too often for updates Can't wait to see more PH Sons!
Tony! I'm honored and happy you stopped by! It was your Emperor's Shields that pushed me forward to make these guys! - No joke! To hear that you're ninja-ing your way around my blog... awesome! Stay tuned! I should have repairs on the Changed brothers tonight, as well as initial paintjobs for darker-style paintjobs that you guys can boo and throw fruit at... hopefully not, but it is a departure from my previous candy-apple red guys you see on page...2? 3?
dajobe wrote:I am a huge thousand sons fan myself, the ONLY thing i dont like about them is that they fight for chaos , but i love their look,history, playstyle. and your models are FREAKEN AWESOME!
Same... I was ecstatic when I found the story of the Pre-Heresy a few years back... Egyptian Space Marines... that fought FOR the Emperor...
Spoiler:
despite his viciously cold scheme to sacrifice his own sons for his plans... or "let them go to Chaos" as a lose-lose situation in order to keep the Imperium going as long as possible...
Post-Sons are just not all that hot to me in blue and gold (except GiraffeX's... he's got a neat take on them... check out his sig- he's stopped by here before)... but the Pre-Heresy schemes are definitely interesting.
That sir is possibly the nicest thing anyone said to me! I'm really glad the 17 something pages of no progress helped I don't consider any of my movements ninja-like... Unless you are referring to Chris Farley in the great white ninja I really do love the look of the Sons and a new take definitely has me on the edge of my seat! Looking forward to more.
tony_nids_10 wrote: That sir is possibly the nicest thing anyone said to me! I'm really glad the 17 something pages of no progress helped I don't consider any of my movements ninja-like... Unless you are referring to Chris Farley in the great white ninja I really do love the look of the Sons and a new take definitely has me on the edge of my seat! Looking forward to more.
I say it because it’s truth-
Spoiler:
My idea had actually been to copy yours nearly down to the letter… so I suppose that wasn’t quite my idea now, was it? But Spartan Marines ‘counts-as’ Custodes, counts as… I dunno, probably BAs?
But thanks, the 17 page thread of “nothing” as you say, was definitely inspiring to me! And the fact that I haven’t detected any trace of you on my site suggests that you, in fact, a ninja unto the legendary skills of the Great White… LOL. Anyways, good to have you here. Enjoy the update!
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Welcome back to another installment. As I was blabbing about in the past few posts (because let’s face it, most of us go to these blogs to see pictures, not hear the OP rant on about… whatever . So a quick preface:
If you haven’t already (which would surprise me very much, seeing as how it’s on the front page when you come to Dakka), check out Eggroll’s BAs. Y’know what? I’ll make it easy for you, here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/313003.page Come back here when you’re done… a couple of pages of pictures should give you an idea…
…Finished? Cool, right? I love the darker colors. I’ve loved BAs in all their incarnations, and I have no problem with bright or dark red… it’s just I don’t see the dark red as often, and right now, it appeals to me. Eggroll has excellent control with an airbrush, and he churns out masterpieces REGULARLY. I want to be able to do that. So here’s my attempt at his style of coloring/shading to get my guys about 60% done before final detailing and clean-up. With any luck, I can learn the basics and adapt his technique to my needs! Or I’ll fail miserably and have to strip my guys with Pinesol/Simple Green… anyways, here we go.
Phase 1 : Colored Primer (see previous picture post for what they look like)
Phase 2: General Coat of Red (I used VA Scarlet Red)- an overall coat to brighten and use as a base color.
Phase 3: Add Shadows (I used Eggroll’s process of using Creatix Airbrush Red and Black Opaque in a mix of 2:1, whereas he advises 1:1)
And here is one of his cohort…
Phase 4: Spray with watered down Creatix Red (general coverage)
…Unfortunately, I got overzealous … and the previous pictures for Phase 3: Shadows, are actually the models covered in the watered-down red and dried… Not so big of a change, just a slight… SLIGHT change in the intensity of the shadows and shade of the red from bright red to a more neutral, cooler red.
Anyways, that’s it for now. Eggroll? How’d I do? And questions for all!
How did I do for the shadows? Are there any areas you’d suggest I hit? Or suggest I repair/avoid?
How about the intensity of the shadows? Too much? Or should I go even darker? I feel I was bit conservative in some areas.
What do you guys think about the color? Ok for PH 1K Sons?
Also, my airbrush had a bit of trouble spraying out the Creatix Airbrush paint... I might cut it with windex next time... and I believe my airbrush is due for a cleaning... tonight.
Thanks again everyone for stopping by! Leave a comment and critique, if you please, as this is a big step for me and this’ll affect the colors for the rest of the army!
I think your next step is a wash. For my red I used a 50/50 mix of Badab Black and Baal Red washes. Then I painted my highlight red back on. That will definately bring up the definition of your models and even out your reds. What color are you going for with your armor plates? Gold, silver?.
VeritechC wrote:I think your next step is a wash. For my red I used a 50/50 mix of Badab Black and Baal Red washes. Then I painted my highlight red back on. That will definately bring up the definition of your models and even out your reds. What color are you going for with your armor plates? Gold, silver?.
Hey Veritech! Good point. I'm trying to make these guys as simple as possible (aka, churn them out as fast as possible w/o sacrificing quality). I'll give it some more thought, as the final red is meant to be a sort-of "wash" and I'm pretty pleased with the color as it stands. Lemme think on this a bit more. Staring at minis is usually the answer, but that'll have to wait til after-work.
I cant wait to see those done! And as I can see from the pictures, you're aiming for awesome but you should aim beyond that because you've already attained it.
About your questions:
I couldn't detect any flaws worth mentioning/repairing. Did you apply a base color, then shadows and then highlights? I'd suggest to work from dark to bright in this case. First the shadow color all over, then the base color from roughly one angle, but be generous and then the highlights. That way you wouldn't have to think about the positions of the shadows that much, just an idea.
The intensity of the shadows seems just right to me.
When I saw the base color I thought "YES, they don't look like BA!". Unfortunately the final product has that orange flair, which I don't like.
If I was to paint TS I wouldn't highlight that much, since red is a difficult color, you don't want it to go pink and you don't want it to go orange. I would take a the brightest red, that has no hint of orange and just shade that down with several steps. Tip: Don't just use black, also use a very dark blue (dark sea blue or payne's grey ) and your red will come alive.
The new airbrushed models look good you need to do a bit more accurate shading for individual panels. The shadowing isn't consistent in terms of going from a bright to dark variance on a single panel. Some areas look to be randomly shaded. If accuracy with the AB is an issue, I suggest just using a zenithal spray technique at first and doing touch ups by brush after. Also, it could be the photos but some of the gradients do not look as smooth but has a quick jump from dark to bright red while other areas are spread out a bit more evenly. This should improve over time as you get better with the AB though. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more of the AB models!
Sorry for the late reply, gentlemen! I had a few business meetings to attend outside of the office... all the while wondering if I would get any critiques... lo and behold, thank you... thank you... thank you!
SoulBellow wrote:I cant wait to see those done! And as I can see from the pictures, you're aiming for awesome but you should aim beyond that because you've already attained it.
Thank you very much, but honestly, it's far from it. You want the best at this work, you want Eggroll. This is his technique I'm trying to adapt.
neil101 wrote:Loving the flaming gs ball , izanagi, and the red pain is cool , wish i could find a can of that. Looking forward to more goodyness
Thanks! Flaming GS ball tut coming soon. The red paint is Rustoleum... Rust. Nice brown-red color for a starter. I can see why Eggroll chose it to start with.
Baiyuan wrote: About your questions:
I couldn't detect any flaws worth mentioning/repairing. Did you apply a base color, then shadows and then highlights? I'd suggest to work from dark to bright in this case. First the shadow color all over, then the base color from roughly one angle, but be generous and then the highlights. That way you wouldn't have to think about the positions of the shadows that much, just an idea.
The intensity of the shadows seems just right to me.
When I saw the base color I thought "YES, they don't look like BA!". Unfortunately the final product has that orange flair, which I don't like.
If I was to paint TS I wouldn't highlight that much, since red is a difficult color, you don't want it to go pink and you don't want it to go orange. I would take a the brightest red, that has no hint of orange and just shade that down with several steps. Tip: Don't just use black, also use a very dark blue (dark sea blue or payne's grey ) and your red will come alive.
Thanks Baiyuan, for stopping by! m(_ _)m <-koutou emoticon -> I haven't earned my toe-tilt fist-in-palm greeting yet.
Hmm... that's an interesting approach. But it seems like that's where I'm going, for both Eggroll's and your styles. I might have to try both to see which one. Eggroll's is targeting particular areas, while yours is zenithal, I believe. Either one is good. I tried the Zenithal, but this one is also an exercise in controlling my AB.
The orange is probably due to the fluorescent light... possibly an off-mix of water and red I used at the very end too. Again, the process is right at the birth and I'm diving right in... I hope I can tweak it in a bit. The black/red mixture I use turns into something blue/purple, definitely not black. I'll be able to sharpen it later. Thank you again!
Eggroll wrote:Hey Remi,
The new airbrushed models look good you need to do a bit more accurate shading for individual panels. The shadowing isn't consistent in terms of going from a bright to dark variance on a single panel. Some areas look to be randomly shaded. If accuracy with the AB is an issue, I suggest just using a zenithal spray technique at first and doing touch ups by brush after. Also, it could be the photos but some of the gradients do not look as smooth but has a quick jump from dark to bright red while other areas are spread out a bit more evenly. This should improve over time as you get better with the AB though. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more of the AB models!
Hey Eggroll! Thank you for the critique, as this is your style of work! So for the second- the "shadowing isn't consistent in terms of bright to dark variance", I assume that means you do multiple runs across an area, focusing on a smaller area deeper in the recesses every time? And yea, part of the trouble was also the consistency spraying out from my AB- possibly in need of cleaning, possibly the thicker consistency of the Creatix- that lead to some splatter marks on the cohort's knee and shoulderpad, respectively. Thank you again, and perhaps I might be able to give me another critique later down the line?
Vitruvian XVII wrote:What AB are you using?
My Iwata HP-CS gift I got a while back from the wife.
Thank all you gentlemen for stopping by and helping improve my technique. Stay tuned. It'll only get better. If it gets worse, I'll be sure to suicide immediately off a cliff or something. Jus kiddin'.
I like the shadows a lot personally. I think the intensity of them is right on! The areas that look conservative imho should stay conservative. I love the color, and I think some highlights and details will make the shadows look a bit more spot on. I am still eagerly awaiting a fully complete Son! Now if you need me I'll be tucked behind a post or two procrastinating
tony_nids_10 wrote:I like the shadows a lot personally. I think the intensity of them is right on! The areas that look conservative imho should stay conservative. I love the color, and I think some highlights and details will make the shadows look a bit more spot on. I am still eagerly awaiting a fully complete Son! Now if you need me I'll be tucked behind a post or two procrastinating
LOL... thanks Tony. I got a ways to go before I get them perfect. I think plan of action (read: no real activity yesterday, in lieu of other necessary life/academic/work activities... ) will be to actually go over it one more time, but only hit the darkest recesses one more time with the shadow-mix. (and repair the spatters)
All I really got done yesterday was disassemble my AB and give it a good, long overdue cleaning. That'll never happen again. The crust was complete bull to scrape off, and I'm not taking care of it as well as I could be. My apologies, my dear airbrush. I shan't ever neglect you again.
As to finishing a complete son (aside from the jacked-up "battle damage" one I had earlier with the old colorscheme) I should have something done very soon! Tonight seems free, so I'll probably get a session in then. I've got a brand new gold color method I'm dying to try, so I'll probably be going after the footsoldier with the cross-mask, and perhaps the leader, if I have time.
-Remi (HF Iz)
Automatically Appended Next Post: -EDIT/Appended, whatever-
Just put in an order for the winged SF figure from Scibor to use as Commander Kepheres, and a set of 5 Egyptian-style bases (again, for the next set of guys). Also have my wizard-base ordered from GW, for the Pimp My Wizard group project by Baiyuan and PDH, progress to be separated from this blog, and put onto our official one -
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/376647.page
Unfortunately, tried going to irina_est's ebay to buy some cheaper FW stuff, followed up with Chapterhouse heresy jetpacks. No such luck, as they were bought out. Jetpacks with no figures doesn't help me. Guess I'll have to wait on those for a bit.
Coming Soon:
- More paint on initial two with Eggroll's BA techniques
- Conversion work on the Emperor's Champion Finecast
- Fireball GS Tutorial
veritechc wrote:Hey HF Izanagi. Do you have a army list you are working towards. Did I miss it somewhere in your posts?
Lol... no brother. Your eyes haven't decieved you. I've only got 10 guys right now... almost enough for a posse, that that's it.
It'll be slow, but army list will come MUCH later, as I'm also going to double up on work- aka Emp Champion conversion if/when I play at GW, but Scibor Fallen Angel figure conversion if I'm playing at home... etc. etc...
Thanks for asking though!
-Remi (HF Iz)
-EDIT-
Oh yea... sorry, no work for tonight. My wife and I are celebrating our 2nd wedding anniversary in downtown Chicago.
Good morning! Just a mini-update before I leave the office again on business... anniversary dinner was fantastic despite watching heavy rain and subsequent hail the size of ping-pong balls in downtown Chicago from inside the restaurant. (our ride was in a parking complex)
I checked Forgeworld this morning... and my thoughts immediately flash to the Thousand Son artwork given by Dantay... Contemptor-Pattern Dreadnought...
FU HF Izanagi and Forge World for making me buy two of these! lol
I can see that with the Scibor Egyptian head dress and a talberd. Oh and of course full Psyrifelman. It could be represented as one on the automatons from the Thousands Horus Heresy book.
Asylum_Inmate wrote:I just Nerdgasmed a little, that is awesome
One of those in full rifleman loadout would be quite a sight
Althought the rules listed dont have that as an approved loadout I would have it as a 'counts as dreadnought' anyways
edited as my spelling sucks today
Damn straight! I love these new bodies! Bigger than standard dreads, too!
veritechc wrote:FU HF Izanagi and Forge World for making me buy two of these! lol
I can see that with the Scibor Egyptian head dress and a talberd. Oh and of course full Psyrifelman. It could be represented as one on the automatons from the Thousands Horus Heresy book.
LOL, what'd I do?? You would've seen them sooner or later, with or without me!
I bought myself one- I'm going to doctor it, lots of GS work and modification, and currently only the standard arms they have on the website.
I too see head-dress and some sort of tabbard, but a lot more done to the smooth lines it has. I think it'd look best with battle damage... but my guys... are... not supposed to have it.
As to the Psyrifleman, I don't really know. If he's just a standard Venerable Dread with power weapon and heavy weapon, it's cool with me. I just want to transform the out of the model and make it my own.
Either way, these guys ship July 25th or something... such... a long... time... to wait...
Set yourself another little project while you are waiting, for you it means the waiting time will pass quicker, for us it means we get another update lol
Asylum_Inmate wrote:Set yourself another little project while you are waiting, for you it means the waiting time will pass quicker, for us it means we get another update lol
Don't worry. I've still got the rest of the group to work on and assemble before this guy gets here. I'll be plenty busy with this, as well as the Pimp My Wizard group project I'm participating here on Dakka. Thanks for staying tuned. No new work over the weekend (thank Grad school and that corporate monster Best Buy for my misery) but free time til this Saturday. I'll be working on some painting tonight!
I can't really talk about others keeping themselves busy, sometimes my motivation is not where it should be. Its taken me far to long to get my own P&M blog up and running, (hell its been so long since I painted anything all of my paints have set solid), although I did recently treat myself to a new camera so I can actually do dcent updates now, of course that means I have even less excuses not to do something
Asylum_Inmate wrote:I can't really talk about others keeping themselves busy, sometimes my motivation is not where it should be. Its taken me far to long to get my own P&M blog up and running, (hell its been so long since I painted anything all of my paints have set solid), although I did recently treat myself to a new camera so I can actually do dcent updates now, of course that means I have even less excuses not to do something
Very true (EDIT- that our motivation is not always where it should be, not that you don't have a right to talk about others- knock yourself out, I'm not that much of a hard ). The motivation to use time wisely with other obligations like married life, graduate school, etc... they're pretty powerful motivators... I'd say about 65% of the time I do sit down to paint, I'm not fully there and wanting to... rather, using the time because it's all I've got in between juggling everything else. But after about 10 minutes or so (moreso modelling rather than painting), I get in the groove for as long as I have.
Good luck with yours! If this helps motivate you any, then I'll try to churn out more at a regular pace!
I have set myself the goal of either painting or assembling 1 mini a week, it *SHOULD* be achievable, whats the bet I will have jinxed myself by saying that out loud
Asylum_Inmate wrote:I have set myself the goal of either painting or assembling 1 mini a week, it *SHOULD* be achievable, whats the bet I will have jinxed myself by saying that out loud
HF Izanagi wrote:One marine at a time? Totally do-able, unless you're going for showcase standard... Good luck!
-Remi
Im not sure I *EVER* had the skill to do showcase standard, I think my skill level was more like good table top, but if I ever get a painted model done in my blog I will let you know, then you can make up your own mind lol.
I am always looking for C&C, feedback or just confirmation someone has checked it out
LOL... My boss seems to think I have acid reflux or am prone to choking while drinking any sort of liquid. This is the fourth time in a span of a week that I've spit up due to reading something on this accursed website...
Welcome back to another mini-installment. I started doing the gold-work on one of the marines I did the airbrush work on last update. To go along with a new red color, I also chose to go more Blanchian with the gold as well: instead of the bright yellow gold, I decided to go for a more whitish-tone.
Color is as follows:
Base: Scorched Brown/Shining Gold 1:1.5 Ratio (should look like Copper)
Wash: Devlan Mud/Badab Black 1:1 Ratio
Layer 1: Shining Gold
Highlights: Shining Gold/Mithril Silver 1.5:1 (should look a bit more gold, not silver)
And these are the results, unfortunately, I didn’t think of recording it step by step as I’ve given it. Apologies, all.
Currently at between steps 3 and 4, he’s had the base color, he’s had the wash, and he’s had the Layering put on, minding shadows and where the light would hit.
Further work done- he’s had all areas (including the new kneepad areas) done in all 4 steps, as well as some facial tattoos (not sure if I’ll keep them) done in Scorched Brown/Black/Shining Gold in 1: 0.5 :1 Ratio. Also, I think he’ll be needing some designs on his knees- they’re big and clunky, but they lack detail and are just out there. He’s also had an initial wash of Dark Flesh on his cloth, (which also doubles nicely as an “eraser” on the red… ), watered down Bleached Bone, and Watered Down VMC Oxford Blue in the recesses that I’ll highlight back up to nearly Skull White later.
Backview- Overall, pretty pleased with how this portion looks-shadows/colors and all. The gold I’ve already gone over. Silver is Boltgun and Badab Black wash, and when that dried, a bit of VA Silver painted on by hand on those portions. For the hoses, another wash of Badab to pull back the detail. Oh yea, and I'll be deciding tonight to do the upper wires in gold, or green/slight OSL.
Finally, I’ve added DA green in the eyes, with possible HL later- my only complaint about the MK3 armor is that they’re deep inset, so any HL or work you do won’t really come out… So, what do you think of the new color? Any good? Looks like crap? Lemme know!
Thanks for stopping by- to be continued tonight, with work starting on the other staff-wielding Son as well!
I think that gold is dead bang on for the art I've seen. In the pictures it is in the middle ground between silver and gold. If you are going for a reproduction of the are you nailed it.
I do notice in the pictures it has a green tinge. Is that intentional?
Red is a pain in the ass when it comes to photographing, so the color looks slightly different from pic to pic. In the second and third pic it looks best, the others are ok too, nothing to worry about imo.
The gold has turned out perfect and I think you got spot on with it's fine nature. And yeah, as Baiyuan says...red is a pain in the back end to photograph. I think you've got it right, but it might be an idea to photograph in different light conditions or with different backdrops.
veritechc wrote:I think that gold is dead bang on for the art I've seen. In the pictures it is in the middle ground between silver and gold. If you are going for a reproduction of the are you nailed it.
I do notice in the pictures it has a green tinge. Is that intentional?
Thanks, Veritech! That means a lot coming from a fellow Son! And yes, I do plan to "tweak" Blanche's art of it- not as bright-red as he does it, but the whitish silver, and none of the white topknot nonsense that kills their look. (if they're Egyptian, stay Egyptian, it's not necessary for the Euro/Germanic Tribe/Assyrian Helmet top-knot manes...)
Green...? Perhaps from the DA Green near the eyes? Or all over? Definitely NOT intentional... might be the light? Eep... time to recheck when I get home.
Baiyuan wrote:Red is a pain in the ass when it comes to photographing, so the color looks slightly different from pic to pic. In the second and third pic it looks best, the others are ok too, nothing to worry about imo.
LOL... tell me about it. All the pictures have a slightly different hue because I use a flourescent light and not from all around like a make-up mirror. Thanks though! Appreciate the back-up! Now to ramp it up, knowing I they've got an appeal and don't look that "off".
Igandris wrote:I think the armor looks great. Keep 'em coming.
Thank ye kindly! I'll get to turning out more tonight!
Thanks for the comments so far! Any tips on improvement, tips for doing detailing on gold (aka, on his kneepads, I want to do stylized scarabs w/ the legs or even egyptian hieroglyph)? All critiques are welcome, as long as they are constructive in some way (especially if you think my work sucks balls )
LOL... thank you! I'll try to churn them out as fast as possible. I'll be doing this guy and working on the other staff-wielder, plus some assembly. I guess I should echo that too... Need... MORE... (completely assembled and painted) THOUSaND SONS!
DarkStarSabre wrote:The gold has turned out perfect and I think you got spot on with it's fine nature. And yeah, as Baiyuan says...red is a pain in the back end to photograph. I think you've got it right, but it might be an idea to photograph in different light conditions or with different backdrops.
Definitely. Once I start taking down the WIP and replacing them with the backdrop'd "fine" pictues, I'm hoping the red will show through as I see it... deep and bootiful!
Asylum_Inmate wrote: The helmets look very mean, which is a good thing, the deep red always works well with gold.
Love em', want more of em'
Thanks, although, it's more of the brute Mk3 look than any of the janglies I put on his forehead. Hopefully the other brothers are to standard as well! Stay tuned!
tipios wrote:Nice work, I like your choice of helmet, looks very close to the book artwork that you were inspired by. Keep it up
Thank you! Mk3, all the way (with some careful chopping and filing... and pain in the arse tiny plasticard cutting/filing). I'm hoping to do more helmets with GS modification, and not just helmet tine changes.
Thank you all for your interest, and stay tuned for more painting tonight!
Thank you! Mk3, all the way (with some careful chopping and filing... and pain in the arse tiny plasticard cutting/filing). I'm hoping to do more helmets with GS modification, and not just helmet tine changes.
Thank you all for your interest, and stay tuned for more painting tonight!
-Remi
Have you thought about making 5 or so of those helmets then making a resin cast of them. That way you could churn them out faster?
Hmm... I have, actually. (I think someone brought it up before, at least for the added accessories- tines, beetles, etc) But I've realized I've neither the time, the materials, or the know-how to do it.
On the upside, is that each of my guys will be different. And to be truthful, they don't take all that long to make. 5 or 6 of them, all different shapes (samurai moon, 1k sons beetle, Gundam V, thin samurai V, diamond) take less than an hour to shape and file... something about doing it by hand...
If I was trying to make them fast, I'd definitely consider researching/investing into casting, but at my pace right now, handmade is ok.
There is something to be said about hand made parts... well hand made everything. It's nice to see that there can be variations even when looking at the same "v" for instance. I personally love when things aren't exactly cookie cutter. Keep up the great work! Maybe speed it up a bit I long for updates and pictures!
Thanks everyone! I usually take the time to respond to every person- I'm glad that what I do inspires and satisfies. A couple of things...
-YES. What we all do is hand-made, even for smaller bits, the fact that they're all different, and I'm not actually truly going to have 1000 of them, makes the prospect easier to swallow and a lot more fun to think about and do. And yes, if I come up with anything new, well... more variations!
- I'm glad that you see what you like, Tantan. Send me a link to your Thousand Sons. I may ask all the others as well and put a general section to it. (Veritech!) It's not for pride's sake, like this is crap, but this is good, but several posters on my thread actually have their own Sons which are inspiring and awesome in their own right. Helps me make mine, that's for sure.
As to speeding it up, well, I'll be doing slave labor for 10+ hours everyday this coming week and weekend, but what I can tell you is I started chopping apart a Finecast Emp's Champion... (wth is finecast anyways? It's not resin... not plastic... some Jedi would consider it... unnatural. ) But look forward to that, as I'll be focusing tomorrow afternoon to evening on a lot of work for the PDH and Baiyuan's Pimp My Wizard competition as well as this blog... something to tide you all over.
Check you all later. Hopefully an update on Monday!
Hi everyone, and sorry for the major wait. Work is murder, and hobby has fallen to the wayside of that, and midterm work. However, I do have a new update that’s been waiting since Monday- I mentioned I received my Emperor’s Champion Finecast, yes? I didn’t receive my wizard for the group project til TODAY, so this is all I’ve got. (sorry guys)
Alright, let’s get started- GK mythologies, the brotherhood champion is an indomitable hero and a peerless swordsman. Seeing as how 1K sons don’t have anything like that, I just wanted to make the figure look and feel as though he was as comfortable swinging around his weapon as he was with his aetheric powers (probably in unison).
One thing I will say, especially next to Crossface… this guy is TINY. I don’t know if it’s supposed to be that different, and I wish I had taken a scale shot to show you, but yea… he looks a bit small. More about that in a bit- here he is, in all his glory-
The start of it- I chopped the sword arm off, and had to cut the glaive in two, as it looked too massive to even wrap his hand around. I chopped a bit off the handle, to make sure it didn’t interfere with his wristguard.
And then I thought about how to differentiate him. He’s already a small mini… but how could I make him stand out. My cousin gave me a blood-angles Sang helmet… I liked the look of it… I shaved down the crazy blood crown (you can see I did a shave job on the original helmet as well, planning to use it.) and gave it a bit more of a bald-head shape… and he kinda looks like Imhotep from The Mummy!
I GS’d some ears on him, (almost thought to do a pharaoh hood… then relented) and you can see the initial fill work going into the weapon and his arm socket. The arm socket actually filled perfectly as-is at a certain angle, but I put it a bit different.
And finally, starting to do some GS work on his symbols. I chopped the cross off and made a scarab medallion, and although not shown, his spikey knee-pads are replaced with upside-down scarabs. Next on the plate will be a cape to beef him up and some detailing to thicken the armor and detail it's smooth surface.
Should the cape be just the long flowing piece, or should it have the Dracula-hood/Dr. Strange cape look? What do you think? Also, I was also thinking of adding a braided ponytail to him (make him like Tong Po of Jean-Claude Van Damme’s Kickboxer!!)… yay or nay?
Anyways, that’s it for now. I’m out of the office yet again tomorrow, so updates will get a bit slow here, like “crawling-home-using-only-your-chin” slow, while I focus on my wizard entry for Baiyuan and PDH’s group project!
Good work!
Pony tail? Well he could use something like that. I say try it and when the pony tail doesn't work out you can still rip it off.
About the hood, how about one of those psi-hoods, they always look impressive.
I really like the bald look, not too sure how the ponytail would look. Would the Dr. Strange style cape get in the way when he is swinging that beast of a glaive around? Would be a bit of a setback if he was swinging it all about with fabric in his eyes just to realize he wiped his own squad out
dajobe wrote:i like the cape idea...not the ponytail, but its your model, do what you want
LOL... I'll take that as a solid 'NO' for the ponytail... but I'll still consider it... Tong Po is one badass mutha. And I think it could add detail to an otherwise bare cape (aka hide my horrid GS skills when making cloth) Stay tuned, I'll figure something out. Hopefully!
Baiyuan wrote:Good work!
Pony tail? Well he could use something like that. I say try it and when the pony tail doesn't work out you can still rip it off.
About the hood, how about one of those psi-hoods, they always look impressive.
Thanks! And my thoughts exactly. I'll probably start with the cape first- he needs one of those to fill out his girly figure and make him stand out among his larger peers. And yes, I'll try the ponytail, if it sucks, change it to something else. I'm thinking of using the Dracula/Dr. Strange hood as a last resort, as then it'll be reminiscient of that Gold Mage (Balthazar?) from Fantasy... not bad, but I think I can do better.
Psychic hood... yes... that might work. I'll research them, but I'm also reluctant to lose his awesome Imhotep-baldness. A queue would be sweet, as it would still preserve...
Anyways, thanks all for stopping by and watching/commenting. This will probably be the last for a while, as I really REALLY want to get started on a project that's going to push everything I've got to the edge- hopefully improving my techniques overall! Check us out at Pimp My Wizard by Baiyuan and PDH! The participants and their works are all certifiably insane (in the best way possible)!
-Remi
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tony_nids_10 wrote:I really like the bald look, not too sure how the ponytail would look. Would the Dr. Strange style cape get in the way when he is swinging that beast of a glaive around? Would be a bit of a setback if he was swinging it all about with fabric in his eyes just to realize he wiped his own squad out
Balls, Tony!! The great white ninja strikes again! I realize how wierd a cape would be- (reference: Wuxia heroes, no one who uses a spear/stave type weapon has one, except pre-fight... it's just... awkward.) but I need something to beef him up next to his bigger brothers. LOL at him tearing apart his own squad because he can't see...
And something to show you the guy I was talking about, Tong Po, for all you young bloods who don't know. Skip to the 3-minute mark.
If I ight make a suggestion, the glaive handle looks way too thick, I think if you drilled through the hand and inserted some brass rod or wire leaving about a few mm top and bottom to make a hand grip, then do the same further down the glaive to show a second hand grip, because that glaive is too big to be used 1 handed.
The alternative might be to raise the left arm and adjust the right to match then cut the right hand and position horizontallythen use rod or wire to link the hands and put the glaive tip on one end, so its held across his body as if meditating or chaallenging some one.
Just my thoughts, can we get a pic of him beside the other 1ksons to get an idea of scale?
lipsdapips wrote:Looks sweet!
for reference, what parts of the emperors champ are not attatched on the new finecast model?
I can field this one!
Same as the metal one - Sword Arm and shoulder pad, back pack, bolt pistol holster. Though Finecast has its issues in terms of conversion it's a dream - you'll notice he chopped the head off there...the best thing now is that you can do that without cussing and swearing up a storm as the metal one was a pain for that!
It was still a pain, even with a saw. Never been a huge fan of the Emperor's Champion that way - much more user friendly now to cut, chop and snip - it can be done with a knife!
Apologies, gentlemen. I was out of the office on business, like I will be much this morning and afternoon.
@ VeritechC- Excellent idea! I shall be doing so! (and great pic by the way!) And yes, steal away!! They're too good not to use!
@lips- Yup. DSS got this one! Thanks brochacho!
@dantay- Hmm... very true. I'm not looking forward to chopping it, so I might actually take a file to it and just make another section open on the lower half, then GS detail around it. -EDIT- Yes, I'll take a picture side by side so you can see the champ amidst his pals.
@Darkstarsabre/Baiyuan- I'm inclined to agree with both of you, actually. It is a wonderful material (so strange to the touch, still) to convert as opposed to metal. I used horribly crude tools when I was younger and going through the metal/pewter minis. Looking back, I think I would have sworn and cursed if not for the maniacal look in my eyes while gouging the models for parts... the desire to convert kept me sawing away with a dull exacto from my dad
Thank you all for your interest! I'm glad you like the conversion. In other news... FW just sent me a notice they shipped out my Contemptor Pattern Dread. Don't know what that is? See pages 2 for Dantay's research on the PH 1K Sons heraldry and image. You'll see it there! Too bad it'll lay untouched for a while I keep my attention on other projects with deadlines!
Asylum_Inmate wrote:so many projects so little time eh?
Well I for one am enjoying following all of them
Yup. I was supposed to hobby for a bit yesterday, but school work had to get done in case the company wanted me to do crazy hours this week again.
Tonight for sure, I need a break, and I'm going straight to my desk to hobby. Again, don't know if it'll be here on this blog (more work on the champ, or more painting), but most likely, it'll be finally starting on my Pimp-My-Wizard entry. FINALLY.
After hearing the phrase pimp my wizard being passed around for the past couple of weeks now I am going to be so disappointed if someone doesnt actually make a pimp of their wizard.
Asylum_Inmate wrote:After hearing the phrase pimp my wizard being passed around for the past couple of weeks now I am going to be so disappointed if someone doesnt actually make a pimp of their wizard.
LOL... that model would get my vote if someone actually did the Necromancer model release from GW with a feathered hat, fur coat, (he's already got a massive cane)... check us out though- there's lots of great things going on in the group-project version by PDH and Baiyuan, or its public counterpart by Panic. You might want to peddle your pimp idea there... lol... I'm almost certain someone will take the bait.
Buy some gorilla glue and pin stuff because even abaddon's arms fell off with just super glue the finecast one BTW he fell of the table.................
Khorne Flakes wrote:Buy some gorilla glue and pin stuff because even abaddon's arms fell off with just super glue the finecast one BTW he fell of the table.................
Oh yea, I've learned my lesson chopping up/working with resin minis... Head and arm are pinned and glued nicely- I'd be surprised if it broke apart.
In addition, +1 for your name... Awesome!
Kepora wrote:
Great work, but "boooooo!" at removing that figure's gorgeous Crusader Helmet!
LOL... why don't you tell me how you really feel?
Yea... would it make you feel better if I told you I originally considered keeping him helmeted and just modding it with one of my plasticard helmet ornaments to make him fit in? I did keep it, btw. I'll be using it for another project, or possibly hooking it on his waist... or perhaps in his free hand...
Either way, you'll see it again.
Now that I think about it, I might GS some fire coming off of his offhand fist... like the start to a Shoryuken Dragon Uppercut...
We'll see- my group project entry model has my full attention tonight.
I have been away from Dakka for awhile and I return to find this beauty!! It's looking good, and it's stirring my inner Wolf!! I am going to be hard at work on my Space Wolves and I will be keeping one eye (no pun intended) on this. Keep it up. If you would like to check in on your mortal enemy I am posting most of my progress at http://phantomminis.blogspot.com
Hey man! Welcome back!! It's one of those things I've wanted for a long time, the Eldar and random projects are on hold while I make some of these into a somewhat playable posse. (yea, not army... not yet, anyway). And that's awesome that you've got wolves! I just took a look at your site- the powerclaw cables look great! I like the look of your Exodite army... are you using the same style? Either way, if you use Exodite or your =I= crew style, it's going to be good. I've got a feeling!
I'll keep up on your blog, as a fan of your work (and a sworn, mortal enemy to those who have no idea what true power is) !
-Remi
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Nevermind! I just saw the test mini. As always, extremely impressive, BT_Mask. For those of you who don't know, check his link and his pics- one sickass Exodite army done in a chalky, blended style. (for lack of a better description, and that was terrible at summing it up)- One of the most unique painting styles I've ever had the pleasure of seeing.
Who just got his Contemptor-Pattern Dreadnought? This guy.
...Who's probably not going to start it until late next month...
Wah, wah, wah.. whaaaaaaaah...
Stay tuned on Baiyuan and PDH's Pimp My Wizard Group Project, that's where I'll be devoting my time, when I have it... up until I finish my work and can turn my attentions back to my Sons again!
I guess I am going to actually have to do some work on my own blog, and keep an eye on the pimp my wizard blog until the contemptor comes out of his box to play. Thankfully its almost payday so I will be able to go shopping for paints at last.
Kepora wrote:sorry, just had to make that comment. The Emperor's Champion model is one of my all-time fave GW sculpts; so simple yet so elegant.
Totally agree . It's one of mine as well, on par with the newest Eldar Ranger sculpts. I remember I had the original Emp-Champion too (sword in a two-handed grip right in front) from back in the day. VAST improvement.
Asylum_Inmate wrote:I guess I am going to actually have to do some work on my own blog, and keep an eye on the pimp my wizard blog until the contemptor comes out of his box to play. Thankfully its almost payday so I will be able to go shopping for paints at last.
Yea, sorry bro. All efforts focused currently on that. There might be more here if I burn out and need a break, but yea... Thanks for stopping by, all!
HF Izanagi wrote:Who just got his Contemptor-Pattern Dreadnought? This guy.
Looking forward to this one, what weapon lay out did you go for?
I ordered mine yesterday (great minds think a like ), mines goimg to be Khorne though twin powerfist.
Hey GiraffeX, sorry for the late reply! I've been busy with work, the PMW entry, and school.
Unfortunately, I was an idiot and didn't know the arm could be used for both sides... I picked up the twin-las arm and a powerfist arm. However, I'm undaunted. I've already started prepping the model for work. I've got an idea for him, to be more dynamic, like his brothers, and the pose won't be focusing on/aiming with the lascannon. But aside from that...? Can't tell you much more.
As I'm getting a bit burned out and need some recharge for innovation for my Pimp-my-Wizard entry, I'm going to be working at this blog during my sparetime this weekend (more like juggle both projects at once). More painting, and modelling, coming soon!
Looking forward to your Khorne-contemptor! The model is already naturally menacing, so I'm sure your results will be ace!
I've started planning my own thousand sons now. I may do mine pre-heresy, not sure yet. However, the twist on mine is I'm using khorne berzerkers and plague marines. How, you ask...
@ Tantan- looking forward to your creations as well!
Contemptor Assembly
Welcome back, and sorry for the long wait... I've been around, just not at my own blog. Today, I'd like to present the first part, around 60% completion of my new FW contemptor pattern dread assembly, waiting for some GS to cure on my other work for the Pimp My Wizard group project. First of all, I gotta say- this kit kicks ass. Period. It's very well made, and despite my all-consuming fear of resin/FW products... I pinned the out of him, and he hasn't given me much trouble at all during construction. SO! Onward with the pics!
Here he is, all laid out. I picked mine up with a lascannon and powerfist combination. Powerfists come with integral bolter/flamer plus bolter/flamer "bitz", and lascannon is gun/shoulder/and pivot-mount. For some odd reason, my kit came with an extra shoulder pad...?
Shaving off the aquila, as much as it pained me... the symbol was very well done, complete with slight scratches and damage. I'll just have to put on a suitable symbol (beetle?) in its place.
Body all set up. I didn't take a picture during the process, but that's three separate pieces- the body (plus head), the waist component, and hip swivel component. To make it a bit more sturdy, I set up a pin in the hip component, drilled through the waist, and into the body, giving the model a brass-wire "spine".
Arm all set up- as he's one of the more venerable Thousand Sons, I thought he'd want something more aether-like, and decided he'd be focusing on his open hand, rather than his lascannon set. FLAME ON!!
Burn... heretic scum.
Lascannons attached and a loose and ready position.
And finally a close-up from the lascannon side of his body.
Great kit, and I'm looking forward to finishing it/painting it. I'm trying to decide whether or not I should make my own base for the model, or pick up a large-size Egyptian Ruins type base for him too... Either way, thanks for stopping by and stay tuned!
Thank you very much! I only wish I could produce these faster!
veritechc wrote:How did you get that Dreadnought so dang fast? I thought they didn't come out till July 27th.
Do you live on top of Forgeworld or what?
LOL... I don't know. We're not on a first-name basis or anything. I ordered it as soon as I posted it to my blog here. It came about a week ago.
You're gonna love the kit though. It's wicked.
tipios wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing the new dread complete. The pose is already looking awesome!!!
Thank ye kindly! I'm hoping the sentiment remains once I model him into a true Thousand Son.
Stay tuned! This week promises to be dead, but this weekend... either work on this guy, or my wizard for the group project Pimp My Wizard by members Baiyuan/PDH. We're going crazy over there, so to help tide you guys/gals over, check out our work and leave us critiques! WE LOVE CRITIQUES!
Vitruvian XVII wrote:It looks epic bud, now there's no way im not buying one... curses!
Lol... If you make one for your Raven Guard... Raven Guard Contemptor = Batman's guardian robots when he's too old to do it by himself = equals epic awesome = +100 points to oldskool charm, style, and class.
If anything, it makes a fantastic showcase model. Hell, it was the BA paintjob on FW.com that sold me, to be honest. That, and it's Pre-Heresy styling.
My friends are trying to get me into FFG's Deathwatch game... if I don't get to make a batman-style space marine for this one, I'm definitely making him into my next =I=nq warband leader.
Very cool pose (I may have to "borrow" it!). What alternate bits does the kit come with? Do you get both the storm bolter for the close combat arm as well as the heavy flamer? Any others like multiple heads? I've seen some different heads on the Games Day pics but wasn't sure if they come with the standard kit since the FWGD stuff is supposed to be just alternate weapons on a standard body.
Vitruvian XVII wrote:It looks epic bud, now there's no way im not buying one... curses!
Lol... If you make one for your Raven Guard... Raven Guard Contemptor = Batman's guardian robots when he's too old to do it by himself = equals epic awesome = +100 points to oldskool charm, style, and class.
If anything, it makes a fantastic showcase model. Hell, it was the BA paintjob on FW.com that sold me, to be honest. That, and it's Pre-Heresy styling.
My friends are trying to get me into FFG's Deathwatch game... if I don't get to make a batman-style space marine for this one, I'm definitely making him into my next =I=nq warband leader.
-Remi
100% win right here! Kingdom Come was a great story and Alex Ross's paints were amazing....Anywho, more work on the dread?
Dude, if you get that neon-green right, you're pure-win all the way. (that is them, right? White helms and green body armor?) A dread like that is going to look good. Any formula you're going with? (Grey_Death's wonderful SoMedusa army comes to mind...)
And yes, Kingdom Come is one of my favorite books, Ross being one of my favorite artists, and it is my dream to collect several of his works before I pass from this world. I saw a Batman-choking-Joker-surrounded-by-the-rogues'-gallery for $4500 USD... I almost bought it.
A few years back I almost picked up one of the original panels from the scene at the end of the last issue. Supes, Bats, and Wonderwoman eating at a superhero themed resteraunt
warboss wrote:Very cool pose (I may have to "borrow" it!). What alternate bits does the kit come with? Do you get both the storm bolter for the close combat arm as well as the heavy flamer? Any others like multiple heads? I've seen some different heads on the Games Day pics but wasn't sure if they come with the standard kit since the FWGD stuff is supposed to be just alternate weapons on a standard body.
Thanks, and borrow away! Although, once you get one, the model will literally "come alive" and you'll most likely end up with something different once you start playing with it.
The body comes by itself- head, torso, waist, hips, upper legs, knee pads, shins, and two different kinds of feet (flat and slight toe-tilt). The powerfist comes with a shoulder, upper arm, elbow component, forearm, wrist/hand, individual fingers (to make both left/right arms), and storm bolter/flamers for the inner hand. It also comes with a flamer can or bolt-ammo boxes to sling underneath. The lasercannon arm is the shoulder, upper arm, and lascannon only.
Different heads, you say? Could you post a link? I'd like to see that...
VitruvianXVII wrote:Haha, Grey_Death's are right to come to mind, i pretty much intended to completely steal his recipe..
Nice... it's not just the colors though, I think his sickass battle damage also brings his SoMs to life. Lookin' forward to it!!
tony_nids_10 wrote:A few years back I almost picked up one of the original panels from the scene at the end of the last issue. Supes, Bats, and Wonderwoman eating at a superhero themed resteraunt
Lol... awesome. I remember that scene as well. My bro got me the whole set as a graphic novel (rather, got it for himself, and passed it on later... thanks, bro!) and yea... that art is simply amazing, especially as I thought of what they'd look like as real people when I was just a kid.
40k Ninja wrote:Cool pose on the dread.
Thanks, although, I'm thinking of my favorite womanizing governator since Dakka_Dok said it on the last page... (in my worst Arnie impersonation voice) Tahk to deh haeynd!!
In other news, 10K views!! Thanks all for stopping by! Love to hear from you, and I'd love to hear from all the ninjas out there!!
warboss wrote:Very cool pose (I may have to "borrow" it!). What alternate bits does the kit come with? Do you get both the storm bolter for the close combat arm as well as the heavy flamer? Any others like multiple heads? I've seen some different heads on the Games Day pics but wasn't sure if they come with the standard kit since the FWGD stuff is supposed to be just alternate weapons on a standard body.
Thanks, and borrow away! Although, once you get one, the model will literally "come alive" and you'll most likely end up with something different once you start playing with it.
The body comes by itself- head, torso, waist, hips, upper legs, knee pads, shins, and two different kinds of feet (flat and slight toe-tilt). The powerfist comes with a shoulder, upper arm, elbow component, forearm, wrist/hand, individual fingers (to make both left/right arms), and storm bolter/flamers for the inner hand. It also comes with a flamer can or bolt-ammo boxes to sling underneath. The lasercannon arm is the shoulder, upper arm, and lascannon only.
Different heads, you say? Could you post a link? I'd like to see that...
I was hoping for the flamer palm as standard but none of the FW pics really showed it (the angles were of on the Blood Angel pics). Thanks for the rundown! Here's a pic from the Games Day line up that shows the different head I noticed. I doubt it'll be a part of the new arm kits but it could just be a quick swap with a furioso or ven dread plastic kit head or maybe a part of the more involved mortis kit.
@ Warboss' post and everyone else... what the is that???
Dude, that's making me jealous right now. I suggest waiting a bit. If it was at Gamesday, that most likely means they're making those pieces. And that makes my 1K son dread obsolete, especially since he's GLUED and PINNED. It comes to mind that they were raving over the autocannons in their biggest book (and somewhat biggest disappointment). And now I have a veteran brother without any said weapons. Bollocks.
I'm definitely a Vega at heart...
All about the look Pre-Heresy Sons rule. Period. Hands down, they've got the coolest stylings aside from the Custodoes. The others seem to me like carbon copies in different colors- no offense to other PH brothers out there. m(_ _)m
However, whether it was the writing or the overall feel for them, I'm more in love with the speed and ferocity of the SWs than anything else. (first, and last time I'll admit it, BT_Mask)
Vitruvian XVII wrote:I believe thats the new Mortis pattern Contemptor, soon to be released as unveiled at GD US.
Balls... that means I have to buy ANOTHER one...
Work on the contemptor is slowing down for now due to school deadlines and work... that, and I don't have his base yet from Scibor (shipped out today, probably come in 2 weeks).
I might start doing detail work in GS... we'll see. Expect an update to the Pimp My Wizard blog and/or this one this Sunday!
I still like the first Contemptor Dread better with just two close combat arms. I think, since I will be using them as PsyRifilemen Dreads I will just magnetize a four gun backpack on them. Or represent a Psychic attack from them that counts as two auto cannons...
veritechc wrote:I still like the first Contemptor Dread better with just two close combat arms. I think, since I will be using them as PsyRifilemen Dreads I will just magnetize a four gun backpack on them. Or represent a Psychic attack from them that counts as two auto cannons...
Maybe replace the bolter ammo/fuel canisters with Autocannon ammo drums and have the noses/barrels of Autocannons coming out of the palms?
veritechc wrote:I still like the first Contemptor Dread better with just two close combat arms. I think, since I will be using them as PsyRifilemen Dreads I will just magnetize a four gun backpack on them. Or represent a Psychic attack from them that counts as two auto cannons...
Maybe replace the bolter ammo/fuel canisters with Autocannon ammo drums and have the noses/barrels of Autocannons coming out of the palms?
Hmm... that's an interesting idea. For myself, I'm leaving the fuel canister off. I'd like to think that the more sturdy versions wouldn't have cans of flammable liquid on the OUTSIDE of an armored shell.
@ veritechc - I think that'd be pretty sweet, seeing one with hands and rails of 4 guns on his back... the missles are hot, but if properly put down, that sucker'll look like a walking Hydra tank. HAWT.
Good morning everyone, and thanks for waiting. Just finished the last day of live classes, and one more week (read- not too many updates after this one this week ) before I totally finish this round. That’ll give me around 3 weeks of freedom to do some serious modeling and finally finish all my peripheral hobby projects, or at least the ones with the nearing deadlines.
Yesterday was supposed to be a day of full hobbying, but after a few hours, I had an idea to call my cousin and download SM Killteam to relax on my first day off in… 3 weeks? Great game for 800 MS points.
Anyways, here was my progress before he came by.
First was the final construction on two of the initial 10 Sons. For one, I wanted the new helmet, and the other, I wanted an non-helmet. Ok, I’m lying here. Actually, I glued the same helmet crest you saw before to his helmet. After much cursing, I found the bald-mask head. But now, I’ve got to be careful, as he’s looking dangerously like a PH World Eater, pre-paint job.
Guy with the new crest.
Work on New Crest’s CC weapon. The pin runs through the handle into the blade, and all the way through his hand. Actually, every single one of the Sons is a franken-pin job. Heads, both shoulders, elbows/wrists if I reposition them, waist, and legs/knees if I repositioned those. And the pic below that, you can see some of the pin job, without the GS.
And here he is, in his GS glory, still minus his loin cloth and shoulder pads.
Since I had extra GS, I decided to start working on the Contemptor’s iconography. I took a bit of GS and flattened it into a pancake. I’ll definitely be doing sanding and cutting it into even sharper relief.
And the beetle cut into shape… again, it’ll be cleaned. I’ll also be adding legs to the sides of it out of GS “arrows”. In addition, I forgot to take the most recent picture, which was GS work on the shoulder pads, giving them rims, and additional detail. If I have time tonight, I might continue work, but that “school” thing… always getting in the way.
Thanks for stopping by- comments and critiques are always welcome!
tipios wrote:Looking good. What a pinning mission you are on there!!
LOL... thanks Tipios. And yes... starting these guys has severely depleted my wire supply... Might have to pick up some stainless piano wire soon, as I haven't been able to find another supply for the current copper wire I use now.
Stay tuned- I'm hoping to continue work on these guys soon. (and by work, I mean paint!)
im really loving all you effort your putting into it! but to be honest i think the scarab iconography your GSing onto models could be a little tighter... im not saying your doing a bad job or that i could do better, but im just saying that maybe with a little bit more work into them they would look much better
DijnsK wrote:im really loving all you effort your putting into it! but to be honest i think the scarab iconography your GSing onto models could be a little tighter... im not saying your doing a bad job or that i could do better, but im just saying that maybe with a little bit more work into them they would look much better
Thank you DijnsK, for your honest feedback! I'll just throw myself off a cliff now...
Jus kiddin'. I agree. It's a learning process, and I haven't used this much GS since... forever, actually. For the contemptor, I ripped off the GS, as I want it smaller to fit legs and other details on that front plate last night. As for the other guys... it's a learning curve. And they're not going to stop at 10 guys, so the later figures should be much better. I'm not sure if I'm going to go more intricate with the designs, but perhaps... something just came to mind.
Good morning! Just a mini update before I head out for work. I finished up my hw a bit early yesterday night and decided to complete the GS work on one of the first set of 10 Sons, as well as completely assemble on the other.
Not too many changes, although he still looks very World-Eater-ish to me… but I’m sure that’ll change with the paint job. I’ll definitely want a more brownish-yellow-olive skin tone for this guy. Also thinking of doing something to his rebreather mask… make it more 1K-ish… nothing comes immediately to mind. Any ideas?
The final and second “leader” of the first 10 Sons. I gave him a Khopesh and an old Mordheim scroll accessory I found. The angle on the scroll-arm isn’t exactly what I wanted, but it’ll serve. I also wanted to do a bit of modification to his mask. I started with the nose-stripe to cut and sand to final shape, and I’ll be filling in his vents to make solid faceplate for free-hand egyptian designs along the jawline/corners.
And finally, I’m sending my previously painted Sons and the Flesh-Changed into a Pinesol bath. That makes a total of... 5 guys? I wasn’t able to find Simple Green at my nearby Walmart, so I’m going to check when I head home to the parental units’ house in the suburbs, as they also have a Walmart near them. I’m just afraid of what it’ll do to the GS work that I’ve already done on them… but if I have to do it again, I’ll do it.
The Emp's champ hasn't been touched yet, but I'm going to forego the cape (as I like the backskirt thingy he has) and now... ponytail, psychic hood... hmm...
As soon as they’re finished… and starting Sunday morning… assembly will be totally finished, I'll be on a short break from school (but not work) and will be focusing on painting ALL of these guys.
Looks cool, the non-helmetted 1k-son doesn't look too Khornate.
Remember not all of them are psykers infact a lot of them aren't, which is why there are so many rubric marines (or so I am led to believe)
If you feel that he is a bit too aggressive, why not try and sculpt some flames somewhere and make him one of the pyrae (flame specialist psykers) as they are said to be the most aggressive and impetuous of the 1k-sons.
It may require a resculpt but remove the bolter and sculpt flames on his hand or add flames to his weapon.... then you could use him as your flamer carrying special weapon dude
Or leave him as he is and do stylised flames on his armour to denote which of the enclaves or sorcerous groups he is from (pyrae, corvidae etc....)
Just at thought.... looking forward to seeing how the painting goes.
dantay_xv wrote:Looks cool, the non-helmetted 1k-son doesn't look too Khornate.
Remember not all of them are psykers infact a lot of them aren't, which is why there are so many rubric marines (or so I am led to believe)
If you feel that he is a bit too aggressive, why not try and sculpt some flames somewhere and make him one of the pyrae (flame specialist psykers) as they are said to be the most aggressive and impetuous of the 1k-sons.
It may require a resculpt but remove the bolter and sculpt flames on his hand or add flames to his weapon.... then you could use him as your flamer carrying special weapon dude
Or leave him as he is and do stylised flames on his armour to denote which of the enclaves or sorcerous groups he is from (pyrae, corvidae etc....)
Just at thought.... looking forward to seeing how the painting goes.
Great idea! I'm actually thinking of making him one of the Pyrae squadron (and denoting another minimum 4 marines) to follow his lead. Won't change anything game-wise, but yea. Flames along the blade (or rather, on his fist and somewhat going onto his blade) might actually be a cool project to "up the game" so to speak.
Briancj wrote:Head to Lowe's or Home Depot for your Simple Green needs.
Love this plog. Love. It. I am living vicariously through you.
<3 <3 <3
--Brian
Brian, glad you're enjoying the show. This promises to be one of the most expensive and (hopefully) coolest projects I've ever done. Being reminded every single guy is worth an arseload of cash keeps me trying to make them all as best as I can (except for the last guy, who disappoints me somewhat... but still). It'll grow slowly, but surely.
And yes, I'll be checking 2 nearby Home Depot stores near me... I've heard good things about the Simple Green. In the meanwhile, in about an hour and half, I'll be checking the brothers and scrubbing them into near-newness.
Thanks all for stopping by. Like what you see? Hate it so much you want to strangle me for destroying a beautiful idea??
Lol, yes it'll grow on you... thats what my wife used to say, to which my reply was grow on me? Yes grow on me like Athlete's Foot.
Everything is looking really cool so far, you could use corvidae as devaststor leaders maybe as I think the corvidae had the power to sense into the future.... you could use his corvidae power as the Dev's signum
Actually the different cults powers could be used to represent different aspects of squad leaders or special troopers within units.
Will you be having any warrior robot maniples?
Btw forgot to ask, have you read Thousand Sons yet?
dantay_xv wrote:Lol, yes it'll grow on you... thats what my wife used to say, to which my reply was grow on me? Yes grow on me like Athlete's Foot.
Everything is looking really cool so far, you could use corvidae as devaststor leaders maybe as I think the corvidae had the power to sense into the future.... you could use his corvidae power as the Dev's signum
Actually the different cults powers could be used to represent different aspects of squad leaders or special troopers within units.
Will you be having any warrior robot maniples?
Btw forgot to ask, have you read Thousand Sons yet?
LOL... yikes... I want it to grow on me... but not that bad...
I'm still trying to figure out the squad, and perhaps you could help me answer this-
I actually have read Thousand Sons, and was somewhat disappointed at the "lack of ferocity" they displayed. I'm probably more SW than anything else, but I felt they were a bit weak in the whole SMs-kill-everything-they-see-with-ease department. Also, do they ever work alone? (aside from the Titan-riding Pyrae leader) In the end, their defense was all in unison, all kine-shielders together as one, teams of prognosticators divining enemy paths, etc. Or at least, that's what I got from them...
As to robot maniples, I read that in the book... one guy controlling a team of automatons... not sure. If I go GK with these guys, I don't know if there's a place for them, unless I use Mordrak and his Ghost Knights (aka that guy and his maniples). If I went standard SM, it would be cool to use them as Scouts, and some unknown Scout Sergeant filling in as "that guy" (because I totally don't know his name at the moment)
The reason that the Thousand Sons struggled was because A) They were caught with their pants down (how they didnt foresee it I do not know).
B) Because Russ brought the custodes and also the sisters of silence with him, the sisters are null maidens and they stopped the T-Sons using their psychic powers, which instantly put them at a disadvantage.
I also got the impression that many of the T-Sons had become over reliant on their powers rather than using their more physical attributes and therefore they were a bit rusty at proper physical hand to hand fighting. They were stillvery formidable in their own way, after all each legionnes astartes seemed to have some form of speciality and employed it to deadly effect, but when robbed of their primary method of making war they were always struggling.
In age of darkness there is a small group of Thousan sons who were working away from the main chapter.
Unaware of what transpired on Prospero they returned to find Prospero destroyed... then found themselves hunted by the World Eaters as Horus was still not 100% sure of their loyalty. The squad was led by Kharn, and the T-son shattered his shattered hi sanity before escaping them.... only to mutter something which becomes a chapters motto.
Also in one of the worst of the HH series a Thousand Son Mhotep (I think, I havent read the book for a while or have it with me). Was captain of a vessel, which was destroyed trying to stop the Word Bearers. He then joined the Ultramarines a World Eater and a Space wolf to attack the aforementioned Word Bearers... he was also using his psyker powers in secret because it was after the Nikeae incident.
Ah yes, I remember that one with Mhotep in one of the earlier books in the HH series. I thought he was quite cool... the whole fight of the wills against the enemy (some sort of daemon, I believe) was really cool.
I haven't read the other books where the World Eaters come to Prospero, but that seems like an exciting scene. Either way, I like them- looks first, for my guys, then combat prowess (however crappy they might be).
Thanks though, I'll look into my cousin's library to see if he has that book you're talking about!
I was also under the impression that the different cults were mixed together so that the squads would be more tactically flexible, so for example the kine shielder would be the dude with the stave, the pyrae the guy with the flamer, the prognosticator as justicar etc..... I also remember that at certain times the different cults would be in ascendency, so their powers could obviously wax and wanne a lot.
Basically the Wolves have destroyed Prospero and believing all T-Sons gone leave, only to be followed by the slightly crazed World Eaters who are looking for a magi artefact and also to kill any T-SOns because their loyalty is not 100% confirmed to the Warmaster (plus we all know how much they hate magick). Was a good read.
Age of Darkness is the newest HH book, the story is called Rebirth
@Dantay_xv - Thanks! I appreciate the info. I'll be hitting up my cousin to see if he's got that in his collection. Methinks he does.
Welcome back to another installment and sorry about the long wait. My Scibor 60mm Egyptian base came Thursday last week, but MBA finals were on-going. I managed to finish up construction and will start GS work on the unit for the next 3 weeks without having to worry about incoming school projects. Work, however, is another matter.
STOP! In the naaaame of luuuuv... before you break mah heart! Er... wait, what? A whole view of the body as assembled. I like how the base has a lot of curvature- I've modelled his legs to look like he's bracing for a monster shot of aetheric (burning napalm?) power.
A shot of his new beetle symbol. It sticks out quite a bit more, and the legs (to be added) will also have that 3d symbol quality. I'm not sure if I'll keep this one, but I wanted to test texture on the shell, and I'm actually liking it, so I'll be doing clean-up tonight and adding more.
Other attachments will be to add a rim around the shoulder pads (see pg 2 of this blog for Contemptor concept pics, courtesy of Dantay), detailing for his head and a unique headpiece, plus symbols on his knees. I will probably add small pennants on his lascannons, but I'm not sure about a loin-cloth... I wouldn't know where to add it so it looks natural, and wouldn't look like it would start binding up in his leg mechanics.
He's got a lot of flat surfaces, and cost quite a pretty penny. Might as well detail him up and make him worth the cash. Thanks for stopping by- comments and critiques are always welcome.
Gotta say I really like where your going with this project. I always love to see the extensive work one does on a Pre-Heresy project. Cannot wait to see more!
Thanks everyone, for your interest in my 1K “posse”. I say posse because right now the team consists of 10 guys, a dread, and a leader…
In response to all the feedback-
Briancj wrote: I really just wish the legs weren't so anime-inspired. A little too Tau-looking, yanno? Ah well.
Your pose is delightful.
--B.
Hmm… I see where you’re coming from, but I actually like the look of these much better than the standard stub-legs of dreads, and the “anime-inspiration” of the Tau. Those battlesuits (not FW, the GW ones) are pretty bad… they look like flying shoeboxes mixed with a lunar lander, rather than anything from anime.
But thank you for the compliment! It’s all the dread and its flexibility. Definitely worth the cash to pick one… or two (once the reaper-cannon-type comes out, see a couple of pages back, one of the other viewers posted it up)
Tipios wrote: Yeah the pose really is great, well done!!!!!!
Thank you, kindly!
Sennacherib wrote: I am an ultramarines player but my freinds 1000sons army has bred an unhealthy fixation with all things 1000 sons. This is quite project. Good job.
Welcome to my madness, Sennacherib! I’ve had an unhealthy fixation with these guys for a while… but the disease is mutating, and calling me to make PH Nightlords… ah… those evil, evil Nightlords…
Mr. Malevolent wrote: Gotta say I really like where your going with this project. I always love to see the extensive work one does on a Pre-Heresy project. Cannot wait to see more!
Thanks Mr. Malevolent! Despite what it looks like, the methodical yet creative work is my way of relaxing. Stay tuned. I move and paint at a snail’s pace, but it’ll eventually get there! Next buy will be jet-pack troopers!
GiraffeX wrote: The Contemptor is coming along well, keep up the excellent work Remi.
Thanks GiraffeX! I think you get what I mean about the legs- the tippy toe crap leg back description was horrendous. But yea, looking at these beasts, they look like gorillas! Might as well have him beat his chest with a dead marine!
Asylum_Inmate wrote:I think that contemptor is awesome, love the pose, are you going to give him the thousand sons head dress too?
Thanks Inmate! Yea, I think I will- either custom, or one of the Scibor ones. The problem I see is the realism of turning his head. He might get a refined, larger, and more detailed version of the standard beetle tines, or any one of the other designs I’ve made. The main thing for me is that if/when he turns his head, will it crash into the hood-armor? The big Scibor ones are probably out of the question…
Thanks all for stopping by! As always, comments and critiques are welcomed and appreciated! Love my work? Lemme know! Absolutely detest it? Also let me know! That just means I’ve got to push the bar to make it better!
dajobe wrote:lol, pre heresy 1k sons have formed a posse and are goin out west to catch sum outlaws!!! yeeehaaa!
they look great though, keep up the good work!
LOL... I've been playing too much Red Dead Redemption...
Thank you and I will!
Vitruvian XVII wrote:It looks great Remi, rally nice posing and the base is sweet too.
Thanks Vit! To be honest though, I've already written this guy off and am waiting for the dual assault-cannon pattern dread... It'll probably use a similar base, or I might expand to using Scibor's resin base-pieces to make another unique 60mm base.
Briancj wrote:I really just wish the legs weren't so anime-inspired. A little too Tau-looking, yanno? Ah well.
Your pose is delightful.
--B.
....shut up. :/ Those legs don't look like they belong on ANY Tau model.
I think what Kepora means to say is that they SHOULD be on Tau models, the original legs for their lunar-lunchbox robosuits look so bad.
However, I may be wrong, and the opinion is open to interpretation.
-Remi
-EDIT- There's someone on here, I think P&Ms, although I'm too lazy to check out my subscribed list at the moment- he's doing digi-art for "new" Tau suits... a mix of Armored Core and Macross-type units. the thicker legs really work! I'll post the link here on my blog when I find it again.
HF Izanagi wrote:Hmm… I see where you’re coming from, but I actually like the look of these much better than the standard stub-legs of dreads
I totally agree, the standard dread legs dont look like they would actually work, they are too short and too far apart for it to be actually be able to walk. At least with the contemptor it actually looks like it would be able to walk properly
HF Izanagi wrote:Thanks Inmate! Yea, I think I will- either custom, or one of the Scibor ones. The problem I see is the realism of turning his head.
You could always attach it the to amour around his head rather than to his head itself, like you said, you want him to able to see the people he is killing.... its only fair
Asylum_Inmate wrote:I totally agree, the standard dread legs dont look like they would actually work, they are too short and too far apart for it to be actually be able to walk. At least with the contemptor it actually looks like it would be able to walk properly
You could always attach it the to amour around his head rather than to his head itself, like you said, you want him to able to see the people he is killing.... its only fair
Yea... that's always how I felt. I imagine they hobble, like trying to walk on your knees. You'd be swaying side to side while swinging your legs out. Doesn't do it for me. The bodies are perfect- rough and nasty-looking, and evocatively grimdark/steampunk.
As for my contemptor's head-ornament, I've also considered that (like those resin cast not-terminators on E-bay with the Egyptian styling and animal heads). I'm not entirely sure though. I might even make another, larger one. No real ideas yet.
As for the project, it's been on hold for the past two days (along with the PMW entry), making time for family stuff. Starting it back up tonight if friends don't come around to hang out.
Hey, HEY! Don't be pickin' on poor ole' "Stumpy-legs". Just because they're the only STC they've been able to find for 10 millennium doesn't mean they're not still LONELY INSIDE.
Also, slow. *stump stump stump*
. o O ( Oh, I wash my legs were long. Stupid Dreadknights. )
Briancj wrote:Hey, HEY! Don't be pickin' on poor ole' "Stumpy-legs". Just because they're the only STC they've been able to find for 10 millennium doesn't mean they're not still LONELY INSIDE.
Also, slow. *stump stump stump*
. o O ( Oh, I wash my legs were long. Stupid Dreadknights. )
LOL... yea, that's gotta suck that you're interred in a design thousands of years old, yet you're supposed to be some kind of hardcore warrior hero.... then you stand next to a Dreadknight, another "hero" of somewhat lower status on the prowess scale, but higher up on the overall status scale... and that's a LIVING dude in that, not your mangled corpse in an iron coffin...
Asylum_Inmate wrote:I always figured dreadnoughts had long range weapons because they were soo slow a three legged dog with cramp could outrun them
Hmm... now that I think of it, what do they do, exactly? Devastators can pack just as big a punch, (albeit more-flavored with rockets/las shots/plasma/ heavy bolts) but I guess it's just a way for their crippled heroes to continue to fight for them. How very frugal... You'd expect them to put something that's just as heavily armored and mobile as a marine, or more... guess again.
Asylum_Inmate wrote:wrap your brain around this concept --->
space marine,
wheelchair,
heavy weapons.
WIN!!!
faster, cheaper to produce, more maneuverable, presents smaller target
TACTICAL GENIUS!!
LOL... if it were in my power, I'd elevate you to the Master of Arms of your preferred chapter. Sheer genius! I first imagined an SM in a regular hospital wheelchair and laughed. Hard. Then I starting arming it up, shelled-leg protector and wheels, swiveling HW turret for versatility, unless he's got his arms, then by all means, turn him into some sort of hybrid wheel-man.
Faster? Check. Cheaper? Definitely. More Maneuverable? Compared to Ol' Stubby over there... hell yea. Smaller Target? Yup, not much bigger than a standard walking Marine!
Asylum_Inmate wrote:Is it wrong that I have already started trawling bits sites for conversion ideas?
ABSOLUTELY NOT! You're innovating for the good of the Imperium! Like so-
Now granted, you really don't want him to sit open like the above (unless they're Angry Marines, because then they just don't care... or if they're paraplegic, but it's demoralizing either way, to see your own legs get shot up, even if you can't feel it).
Next, some sort of treads or all-terrain wheels would do.
Good morning, everyone, and sorry for the long wait! After bungling the paintjob on my guy for the Pimp My Wizard contest several times, I thought of taking a break to do some work that’s a bit more mechanical… take my mind off of the frustration.
I decided to repair the two flesh-changed brothers who took a dip in my Pinesol vat, as well as the 3 other marines who were started with the older, brighter paintjob. The Pinesol wasn’t able to remove all of the original white primer and paint from the first Sons, (pic to come later, if necessary), nor the dark rust primer used on the guys who got messed up. However, I’m pleased to say that the new primer covered most, if not all signs that they were infected and cleansed. And, that means I’ll be able to make nicer versions of their headpieces now!
Without further ado, the airbrush work for the newest brothers, with 2-3 more prepped and ready for primer. I’m going to do them all first, so no new full paintings like Facemask until I finish a good set that I can do color-by-color en masse.
Remember this guy? I still cringe everytime I look at this photo
Here’s how he came out- Much better!
And here’s one of the previous brothers with the old scheme, the one I messed up with battle damage … now being done under the new scheme
And finally, one of the most recent brothers starting out… and without any extra colors, looking very much like a Khornate World Eater…
Right now I’ve got 3 (?) more guys awaiting (re)assembly and new headpieces after their bath. I’m also changing the banner bearer so he’ll be a bit lighter without the cross-banner. And then there’s the Emperor’s champion- haven’t decided yet what to give him, although I’m slowly moving away from the idea of a pony-tail. I might just go psychic hood, styled after those white ancient Egyptian headdresses.
Anyways, thanks for stopping by and sorry for the long absence!
Comments and critiques are always welcome!
-Remi
-EDIT- Oh yea, forgot about this- I have no idea who made this mecha, but it looks majorly sweet! I'm thinking of using a version of it for my counts-as Dreadknight!
tipios wrote:I would really like to see you make one of those dreadtanks
You and me both! I'm thinking it'll be later down the line, but right now I want to finish everything I have- 1 champion, 10 guys (almost down to 9?) and the contemptor. After that, I'm thinking I want to make a squad of jetpack 1K sons using heresy-type packs.
After that...? It's pretty open, so I'll be putting down some money to buy components (probably a defiler body?) to start this monstrosity, while sketching out ideas to make it more in-line with the 1K Sons.
Thom wrote: Love thousand sons.
Great work, keep it up.
Thanks! More progress to come, probably in the form of the other unprimered Sons getting a bit of AB work.
tipios wrote:It does screem defiler, are you thinking of defiler legs too?
Yea...pretty much. However, just took a quick look at the GW site at the Defiler... using only 4 of the 6 legs might leave too much of an "open" space...er, or not. I just looked at the pic- I think it'll be perfect. Probably a few nights devoted to shaving off all the heretic symbols and making it look clean. I'm thinking of possibly using some thicker plasticard to make the turret/torso. But yea, that off-hand side, primary cannon reminds me of an old Battletech robot... never played, but had the tech readouts... the Hollander, I think is what it was called.
Probably will be pretty close to that picture, and after construction, I'll 1K it up... lol, I really need to stop talking about this project, or else I'll be too tempted to push it forward in front of other projects...
Hey Sigur! Thanks for stopping by! I'm honored to have you here- your p-log commissions... *sigh*... someday hoped to be at that level.
Sadly, there hasn't been much progress on these guys with the Pimp My Wizard project I'm participating in... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/660/376647.page Check it out if you're interested- a lot of great conversions and paintjobs going on!
But stay tuned... as of today, the PMW entry is pretty much finished and needs only clean-up... so any other freetime is going to be devoted to finishing my 1K sons!
I know you are pretty far into your project, but I just read the thread and was surprised to see that you did not make use of these heads:
The ones on the left are extremely close to many of the thousand sons depictions, as is the version on the right. These heads can be ordered in particular variants as well, you do not have to get the mix.
EDIT: And of course forgot to say that I'm a big fan of this project so far, the Iron Armor dudes look amazing, and the small icon conversions add a lot.
ph34r wrote:I know you are pretty far into your project, but I just read the thread and was surprised to see that you did not make use of these heads:
The ones on the left are extremely close to many of the thousand sons depictions, as is the version on the right. These heads can be ordered in particular variants as well, you do not have to get the mix.
EDIT: And of course forgot to say that I'm a big fan of this project so far, the Iron Armor dudes look amazing, and the small icon conversions add a lot.
Hey ph34r, thanks for stopping by! I've actually taken a look at those heads before. The one on the left is probably my favorite, and I'd love to get them. Problem is, the models + base + weapons were pretty rough on the budget. I tried cutting costs wherever I could, hence, the modding of the helmets and making my own helmet ornaments. They help add variety and skim the total pricetag for the footsoldiers.
And thank you for your compliments. Hopefully the contemptor(s) will be to your liking. Next on the list are a 5x jetback squad and a mortificator-pattern contemptor dreadnought.
Kepora wrote:the Maximini heads are nice, but...they're kinda narrow for Space Marine helmets.
Hmm... not sure. I think another 1K sons maker on Dakka, Proteus (sp?), is using them. Last time I checked they looked pretty cool...? But my main reason for not including them is simply added cost.
HAZZER wrote:Nice stuff. Also about the heads you could alllways cast them?
True... if I had the know-how and the time... MBA, family life, and fulltime really cut into the time to gather up the materials to do it... as opposed just ordering and painting up. At some point, yes... perhaps next year, when my studies are completed?
TTG BUNKER wrote:Wow, I really like what you're doing here. Cant wait to see a whole squad painted up.
Welcome to the madness! I appreciate the comment, and I too, cannot wait to see a whole squad painted up. Hopefully they meet with your (and my own) satisfaction!
Thanks for stopping by! Love it? Hate it? Let me know!
Reecius wrote:Awesome work so far, really great looking army.
Thanks for stopping by and glad you like them! Enjoy the update below!
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Good afternoon everyone, and sorry to keep you waiting! My grad school has started up and taken away a lot of my hobby time, but I managed to sneek some in between studies. This guy is almost ready for undercoat and painting... so excited! Haven't done a large mini in a while, and after this guy is out of the way, I might pick up another with the Kepheres-pattern Assault Cannons for arms to convert as it's brother unit!
Front view: Put a few scarabs and a cartouche on his leg, plus striped some GS on his shoulderpads, to mimic the original Contemptor Dread art (see page 2 of this blog for examples!) I'll be adding studs to them after it cures and I do a bit more sanding.
Side/Back view: I finally found a use for these small shield-thingys from the Scibor Egyptian Accessories sprue. I've got the wadjet on this side, and on the other, I'll be using the "Spider" pattern shield, with the legs cut off to make a simple scarab shield.
Front view 2: And here's the chest scarab with a bit more detailing. Waited til it dried before adding GS for the legs... now waiting for these ones to dry before cutting them into shape and shaving them down.
Anyways, I'm hoping to get to work on this soon. Depends on how quickly I can finish my assignments, I guess? Earliest, sometime towards the end of this week. Latest, Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning! Thanks for stopping by! Comments and critiques are always welcome!
storag wrote:I really like your conversions - not overcomplicated but elegant. Keep it that way sir!
Thank you very much! I hope the future models meet with your approval!
Vitruvian XVII wrote:Nice tidy GS, good job!!
LOL, thanks to the PMW comp, yea? It was great practice.
As for this guy, I just studded his shoulder pads... primed, and will be airbrushing some shadows onto him. Update tonight or early tomorrow morning! Thanks for stopping by!
GiraffeX wrote:The Contemptor is looking really nice now Remi, the scarab is very nice and neat.
Thanks GiraffeX! Hopefully he'll get done sooner rather than later...
tipios wrote:Yeah scarab is shaping up nicely!
Thanks!
Briancj wrote:I hate you.
LOL, that's awesome! I wonder what the base-model is!
Thanks for stopping by, all! Started doing his shadow-work and paintjob. Hopefull he'll get done sooner, rather than later. Pic update tomorrow!
-Remi
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just one more before I go to sleep... whatever I finished in-between finance and marketing reading/homework...
I decided to give him the beetle-tines... as the dread would NOT be very Thousand Son-like without them... As it was a bit larger, I felt like doing a bit of detailing on his ornament- that's the start of it.
Using one of the "Spider" shields from Scibor. I cut off the legs, and covered the damage with a thin layer of superglue. My concern is the detail isn't deep enough anymore, and wasn't deep from the very beginning, but still. I'll just have to see, I guess?
Another close-up of his tines. This actually isn't the last one, either. I managed to make the upper decoration a diamond... and a setting, if that came out...
Primed and ready to go! - Told you I studded his pads. That was a to do, and I don't look forward to doin that again... I might just give in and get plasticard rod for the next one.
Vitruvian XVII wrote:Looks great Remi, all the little touches really cement him firmly as a 1kSon.
Thanks, I think so too. I'm going with the flow of the Iron Armor- Studs and helmet ornaments. Now, hopefully the colors come together as well as to "fit in" with his smaller bros.
So sad... but I'm already thinking about my second Contemptor w/ Assault Cannons... I've got bunch of conversions planned for him...
tipios wrote:Very nice, the helmet I really like
How did you stud his pads this time?
Thank ye, kindly! The "fatter" helmet thing looks kinda cool on him, although I wasn't sure how I was going to do his, or even resize...
As for the studs, I took a lesson from the PMW group's mentors and used extra GS rolled into sausage. I let it dry and started cutting them and placing them with dabs of glue and tweezers... Problem was, at 5:30AM, I don't cut as neatly as I should or at a perfectly downward angle... so there was a bit of fine-sanding to do afterward.
And should I keep you guys going thinking this guy is all dandy...? He's got a dark secret (and no, not a cool one like he transforms or he's the Dark Knight underneath the armor...)... or should I keep you guys going a bit longer til he's finally finished? The sharp ones of you commentators and will notice that I only capture the image from certain angles... Explanation, scathing personal comments and full pictorial once he's finished.
@Vit - Nah... like I said, it's kind of a bogus dark secret... which I'll keep til' the end, I suppose.
@Briancj - LOL, I wish it were something that cool!
Anyways, continuing with the work... before I have to get to my real work... aka finance studies. Blaaah....
Took a bit of time after work to put some AB shadows on him.
And finally, starting up the metal. Coat of Boltgun metal before slathering on the Badab Black wash. I'll be adding a bit of tinge with watered down Gryphonne Sepia for my next session.
Right now, I feel there's a bit too much metal on him. I'll be doing his hip and knee gears, elbow/knee pads, and the skulls on his knuckles in gold (or alternate scheme gold fist with white skulls on it...) in addition to the standard gold accessories. The lascannons will probably be black for the detailing, and I might even try OSL on the power-coil areas towards the base of the barrels.
Does anyone know how to get the bronze burned melta nozzle look? I'm thinking of doing that for his smoke-stacks and palm-flamer...
Anyways, thanks for stopping by! Comments and critiques always welcome!
First off, I just stumbled upon your thread and I am glad I did, amazing work! Can we get a group shot?
Also when I saw this:
HF Izanagi wrote:
And finally, starting up the metal. Coat of Boltgun metal before slathering on the Badab Black wash. I'll be adding a bit of tinge with watered down Gryphonne Sepia for my next session.
Crappus. Time to buy/make some khopeshs and shotels for these guys who're gripping their weapons with both hands, and put those on their waists.
I’ve decided that my guys will be fully gold- shoulderpads and all. The white will still be present on the clothing they’ve got on them. 
) You and me both- I've loved the look of the Thousand Sons since I first started the hobby in 1662... 
I forgot to add that Kromlech added a Not-Grey Knight Power Halberd x 1 
. I dislike him out of all the primarchs, especially since his legion are Egyptian, and there is no real "tie" with him to his Sons, except that he's a sorcerer supreme... but looks-wise? Might as well put Batman among the My Little Ponies and call him their leader. I might have to try my hand at making a different version of Magnus later... 
between studies. This guy is almost ready for undercoat and painting... so excited! Haven't done a large mini in a while, and after this guy is out of the way, I might pick up another with the Kepheres-pattern Assault Cannons for arms to convert as it's brother unit! 
