I've been meaning to start a blog for a while, and I've finally gotten my things together enough to really get one going and keep it going.

I'm in love with Inq28, or Inquisimunda, or whatever you want to call it. When Inquisitor came out I really dug the concept, but couldn't get into the 54mm scale. I love the attention given to each character, and how individuals don't get lost in a massive flood of bodies. I'm not a gamer, and don't give two craps about following the rules of the game, but I read them anyway so I am aware of wargear options, and the general makeup of warbands so that what I create follows established fluff.

My two biggest influences are Molotov over at Inq8 and Migsula at Legion of Plastic, who really opened my eyes to how much character you can give a group of models in the 28mm scale. I'll be trying to do my own thing with this blog, but at times there are definitely going to be moments where you can see where I got my inspiration from. I'm going to be building several different warbands, hoping to give each one a sense of character and philosophy you can see just by looking at them.

To start things off I have a few members of an Ecclesiarchy group. I'll let the images do most of the talking:







I feel like each model is 90% done. Each could use something else, I'm just not sure what it is. If anyone has feedback or suggestions, I'd love to hear it. I'll be updating again soon, with some WIP Inquisitors, and hopefully some henchmen and a (mostly) scratch-built Navigator.

I have two basic methods of creating characters in 28mm. The first you saw in the last post. I will see a model that captures my attention and creates a character idea to go with it all by itself. This method is quick and easy, but it doesn't tend to produce memorable models. The other method I use is to start with a concept sketch, without any particular model in mind. I dream up the character and what his/her personality would be like, and do sketches until I come up with something that resembles what the character should look like. Here's my sketch of Inquisitor Moretti, a zealous, moderately-insane witch hunter of the Ordo Hereticus.

http://dexterkong.deviantart.com/art/Antoni-Jesaiah-Moretti-CS-258308669

After I had a drawing I was happy with, I did some part-sourcing. The design changed very little during this phase, and the most significant change was the design of the hellpistol, because I saw the pistol on the Skaven Engineer from the Island of Blood set and fell in love with it. Here's what I came up with:



I'm happy with the result. I'm working on another Inquisitor to work alongside him, as a larger, more powerful-looking mentor figure. I also am putting together an idea for a Tech Priest at the moment.

Comments and criticism please! Updates coming soon.

These are all incredible models.

As for the first three needing something....
#1) maybe a bookmark tassle with a skull
#2) aquilla necklace, like the aquila that comes in most vehicle kits
#3)purity seals on the flamer, BURN THE HERITIC!

Well done making your sketch come to life. I look forward to seeing more of your work.

Thanks for the compliment, and the tips. I have put a purity seal onto the flamer of #3, which was a really good idea because it covers up some sloppy putty work on the back of his hand. The book on #1 already has a tassel sculpted on it, which is folded back in such a way that putting a skull on the end won't work. I'm considering either filing down the end of the tassel and re-sculpting it, or possibly sculpting a relief =I= symbol on the book's covers. #2 could indeed use an aquilla necklace, but I'm not sure I can sculpt that small. I'll give it a try, but if it doesn't work, I'll freehand an aquilla onto his collar armor when I go to paint him.

I'm also thinking about freehanding Ecclesiarchy symbols onto their robes, along with some scroll work and embroidery.

Do you have a bitz box for spare parts? I have had good luck carving some very small details off weapons and using them. I've taken aquillas and skulls off bolters and such. You might try that.

My bitz box is huge, but unfortunately VERY unorganized. It is for this reason that I came up with a much bigger, chunkier solution to the necklace idea, thinking I didn't have an aquilla small enough (and the brilliant idea of scraping one off a bolter not occurring to me). It was after I had finished this necklace that I found the sprue from the Space Marine Commander set that included two unused symbols that would be perfect for the idea. You live and learn, I suppose. I'm going out to buy some organizer trays tomorrow.

I'll post pics either tomorrow or later tonight of the progress I made. Aside from the necklace idea, I re-designed the Confessor's flamer a bit, and have started on an Engineseer.

I actually only caught this thread by chance as I was flitting through the forum, but you've got some really fascinating conversions going on. I'm keen to see where you go with this.

Sweet, a compliment from Molotov!

Here are the updated models:







I actually rather like the necklace solution on the Templar. At first I wasn't sure if it was a little too gangster-rap, but I think it has a pope-ish vibe to it. The engineseer is about 80% done. I was inspired by the jaw-dropping Pimp My Wizard thread, which actually inspired a few other conversion ideas that will pop up on here eventually. I need to finish his staff, and for that I am waiting on a delivery of watch parts I picked up off eBay. I'm really happy with how his head turned out. The putty work on his right arm is a little messy at the moment, but I'm going to start smoothing it out with Liquid Green Stuff.

As always, c&c is much appreciated.

Nice work you have going here...

DexterKong wrote:
To start things off I have a few members of an Ecclesiarchy group. I'll let the images do most of the talking:

I definitely like the hat. Is it a tomb kings bit?

It's from the Empire Wizard kit.
And the more I see done with the new wizard plastic the more I want to convert them. I love the "necromancer"

DexterKong wrote:Sweet, a compliment from Molotov!

A deserved compliment. I really like some of the conversions you have going on. The flamer is a really creative idea.

Shame you're in America, as I could've gotten you to help me with a project here... alas!

I look forward to seeing some more from you. Have you organised your figures into solid warbands yet? Any chance of gaming in the future?

At the moment, I have loose ideas for warbands. I am not a gamer, and am putting together these warbands because I love the narrative and flavor behind Inquisimunda. I am also an artist, and am slowly writing a story arc for a webcomic focusing on many of the characters I will be creating here. Since webcomics can rely on story elements to make sure things are exciting, I don't have to worry too much about making my models "too powerful". Some rules are inevitably going to be bent/broken along the way, but I'm not letting a silly thing like "rules" get in my way of having fun. That being said, some input would be appreciated to help me determine how I'm going to load out my warbands.

My Witch Hunter warband is going to consist of one senior Inquisitor, and two freshman Inquisitors. One of these two new Inquisitors you have seen in this thread. He's the crazy-looking fellow in my second post. His other freshman buddy will have a hand flamer and sword. The senior Inquisitor is going to be equipped with a sword and an inferno pistol. I have a PDF file of Inquisimunda rules to serve as a general guide, to tell me what equipment is available to what warbands, but the inferno pistol is missing from the Inquisition Cell armory. However, the character I have envisioned uses an inferno pistol, so that's what I'm modeling him with. Rules be damned. I am also planning on adding in a handful of henchmen.

My Ecclesiarchy warband will consist of the Confessor, Templar and Preacher you have seen here, in addition to some henchmen to round them out.

Obviously, when I say "some henchmen", it's pretty vague. Any tips? I want the Witch Hunter and Ecclesiarchy warbands to feel as if they are allied, or perhaps guided by the same hand. The Witch Hunter warband is highly Puritanical, and in my backstory, both of the younger Inquisitors had been recruited in from the ranks of the Schola Progenium. Together, the two warbands have a general "kill it with fire!" mentality. The real difference between the two groups is that the Inquisitors in my Witch Hunter band are all seasoned warriors and lead from the front (hence the close-combat loadouts), while my Ecclesiarchy higher-ups tend to lead from behind, bellowing prayers and chanting litanies of hatred as their henchmen surge forth. I have a ton of plastics in the mail which should arrive later this week, from which I will build the henchmen for at least one of the warbands. I think it would be interesting to have a pair of flamer-armed troops to accompany the Templar. His flaming staff would tie them together neatly as a unit. Maybe two more armed with lasguns for extra ranged support, and a pair of zealots with close combat weapons for balance. Of course, I'm also thinking about swapping out the zealots for a few Sisters Repentia to serve as stand-ins. For my Witch Hunters, I know I want there to be a cherub in the group, although I have no idea what that would do in terms of gaming , and again, nor do I care. A cleric and perhaps some zealots and a few recruits, to emphasize the arrogance and high-handedness of the Inquisitors.

A bit all over the place with that, but toss me some ideas and I'll see what gets me rolling. Now, on to my other planned warbands:

My Mechanicum warband is going to represent a Magos Militant of an Auxilia Myrmidon expedition, tasked with aggressively seeking out a cult that has stolen a piece of sacred technology. Here is where wargear is going to be a very abstract concept. I absolutely love building Mechanicus models, and I don't worry too much about what the weapon I'm building is actually going to represent. I just care that it looks cool. So, that being said, my Magos is going to be equipped with your standard gear-bladed axe, and his other arm will end in an exotic looking gun. That's about as specific as I care to be at the moment. Beneath him will be an enginseer (who you have seen a WIP picture of earlier in this thread), and a secutor, who will be armed with some sort of heavy ranged weapon and a gear-headed combat weapon. A handful of lasgun-armed skiitari, a praetorian with some sort of large rotary cannon, and some servo skulls armed with las weapons.

A Ordo Malleus warband will consist of an Inquisitor armed with an advanced bionic arm, which I suppose could count as a power fist. He will also carry a bolt pistol. In his retinue will be a sage, an assassin armed with poisoned weapons, and an astropath with a laspistol-armed minder. Since this warband is relatively small, I would like to ally him with a female Rogue Trader, who will be armed with pulse pistols, and some sort of alien sword. I'm not sure if it should be a diresword or an agonizer. I'll get to that later. She will have a Kroot mercenary bodyguard armed with a chainsword and a stub-carbine.

The final group of models I am planning on (at the moment, anyway, I'm sure more will develop and find their own special place in the pipeline), are a trio of very shady, nasty, unscrupulous characters. The first is an Inquisitor Lord of the Ordo Malleus, who manages to stay a field agent by the use of proxies. He will be a powerful psyker of indiscriminate age, who is a reckless radical at heart, but is clever enough to cover his tracks. He may or may not have ties to a dark organization that is notorious for pulling strings from behind the scenes. With him will be a Culexus Assassin. Rounding out the trio is a Daemonhost, completely bound to the Inquisitor's will, and further kept in check by the ever-present threat of the Culexus. If I ever do get around to organizing games with these warbands, these three will serve as NPCs, primarily existing to drive the narrative in the direction I want them to go.

That's a lot of words I just wrote. Kudos to those of you that chewed your way through them. Coming up soon are sketches of the other two Inquisitors from my Witch Hunters band, and the Magos Militant. Until then, keep the commentary going. I'm really eager to hear what you all think about fleshing out warbands with henchmen and lower-ranking characters.

Alright, I have some conversion progress and two new concept art pieces to show. Forgive the quality of my scanner, it is extremely old and I can't afford to get a new one just yet.

The first concept art piece is for the Magos Militant, whom I am naming Izri Amalasand. I wanted to give him a terrifying, inhuman look, and set him apart as the clear leader of the group. The thought of an uncounted mass of mechandrites moving around under his robes like tentacles, allowing him to grow taller at will, struck me as something suitably hideous. Humma Kavula from the most recent Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy had something similar going on, and it creeped me out enough to want to duplicate it.


Next up is the senior Inquisitor of my Witch Hunter band, Orazio Pietro Moretti. Clearly, he is heavily influenced by the concept art for Witch Hunters for that god-awful Warhammer Fantasy MMORPG. I have a decent plan in mind of how to build him, and most, if not all, of the bits I will need have been ordered. He will require a lot of sculpting and putty work, but I think I'm up to the challenge.


I've done some work on the Enginseer. I built him a servo-arm out of plasticard. I'm not sure about it yet, but when my watch parts arrive in the mail that will offer me a lot of opportunity to jazz it up. I will also add some gear icons to his axe. The putty work on his right sleeve needs to be sanded into smooth folds, and after I take care of all that he'll be ready to paint.


Finally I have the beginnings of a Navigator sculpt. I'm not sure if I'll be building a warband around this guy or have him serve as an independent character, but I think Navigators are super-weird and I love the Dune influence on them. I don't have a concept sketch for this guy, but I know where I'm going with him.


Let me know what you think about these models, and the above post about the warband makeups.

lookin sweet man count me in as subscribed i'll be checking back here

DexterKong wrote:Next up is the senior Inquisitor of my Witch Hunter band, Orazio Pietro Moretti.
I have a decent plan in mind of how to build him, and most, if not all, of the bits I will need have been ordered.
He will require a lot of sculpting and putty work, but I think I'm up to the challenge.

Finally I have the beginnings of a Navigator sculpt.

Some hints/tips/inspiration:
Empire Pistoleer/greatswords arms and head, gun barrel from an ork nob, shoulder pads from kroot or valkyrie gunners,
GK's sword, hat from Inquisitor or greenstuff, robes from chaos sorcerer. Empire armour.

(that's fifteen minutes I'll never get back...)


And what head do you use for the navigator?

I love the sketches your doing. I have started a series of wire frame sketches that I plan on sculpting. I may have a few ideas for your Magos, a scratch built servo arm drill and 4 claw mechandrite. I made a couple tutorials check out the end of page 2 in my blog. (link in my sig). keep up the great work

Amazing sketches and the navigator looks amazing!

Speedfreek:
You and I are thinking along the same lines. I've already ordered most of the bits I'll need for the Inquisitor, and you nailed pretty much all of them. I hadn't considered using the Ork gun barrels for his inferno pistol, but when the bits arrive and I start chopping things up, I'll definitely see how it looks. The hat is going to be sculpted.

Depraved:
That tutorial is perfect! Thanks for pointing it out to me. I'll definitely use it when it comes time to build my Magos.

I've got a few new pics. Yesterday, the clockwork pieces and my bits order showed up in the mail (which is to say, both arrived late), so until last night I hadn't been making much progress. However, I did manage to throw together a Secutor for my Auxilia Myrmidon warband. I would like to have more robes to him, but at the same time I wanted plenty of armor to be visible, so he comes across as heavy and plodding. I hope the conversion doesn't come across as lazy. I plan on adding a servo arm to him soon.



I did a little more work on my Enginseer, and think my conversion work on him is done. Just need to paint him now.



The Navigator got some more sculpting work done on him. He is going to be about 70-80% sculpted, and since I'm learning as I go, I'm taking my time on him. I know what I want him to look like when he's done, so we'll see if I can get him there.



That's it for now. Like I said, I got in a shipment of bits and am ready to start work on some henchmen, but am unsure yet what to arm them with. A few posts above I rambled on about ideas for henchmen loadouts, so I'd love to hear opinions on them.

Glad your continueing im enjoying your =][= very much keep up the great work

You've got some really nice conversions here. I'm pretty excited about where this blog is going. I'm a big fan of the ad-mech AND the =][=. Consider me subscribed.

Thanks for the words of encouragement. While I ponder the henchmen and wait on tips and opinions, I started work on a hunter/tracker mercenary. My goal is to give him a grizzled redneck feel to him, like he was raised in a swamp or bayou, and has been hired by one of the warbands (probably the Witch Hunters) to assist in navigating the sewers of whatever hive world it is that my narrative is taking place on.

That reminds me, I need to cook up a setting for this mess.

Speaking of which, I've decided that while I slowly write out the long-term plot for my web comic, I am going to experiment with a more free-form manner of storytelling in this blog, using images of WIP models, finished models, and artwork ranging from rough sketches to full-color pieces. My goal will be for each narrative passage to be written from the point of view of one of the characters I have created, in order to help me better define their personality.

One specific characters I have in the immediate pipeline is a a sharpshooter and my Rogue Trader.

Updates!

I've started piecing together my senior Witch Hunter Inquisitor, which I posted the concept sketch for above. He's still pretty rough, but the general idea is there. I've got a lot of putty work ahead of me.



Also, I built his Inferno Pistol:



Finally, I put together a hunter/tracker type of mercenary. I wanted him to have a sort of redneck look to him, like he had been raised in the swamps or bayous of some backwater planet, and has a simple yet deadly appearance to him. I think I nailed it, and am really happy with how he came together. He's about 95% done, I just need to fill in a gap or two with green stuff and double-check for mold lines.

some nice models, im LOVING the new witch hunter inq. where did you get that head?

Thanks! The head is from the Empire Great Cannon/Mortar set. It was a bit thicker than what I was looking for, so I shaved in the cheekbones some. I'll be sculpting his hat towards the end of the conversion process with him, and am currently working on his robes.

I Love conversions and minis with odd hats and bizarre weapons so I'm in.

A quick update on my senior Witch Hunter, Inquisitor Orazio Pietro Moretti. The sculpting of the cloak is about 95% done. I just need to clean up some gaps and the sloppy transitions between green stuff and plastic. I also need to add the glove to his left hand, and give him one of those magnificent hats.



His sword is done and ready to be attached, which will be the last step. I'm also toying with the idea of adding some stuff hanging from his belt, or keeping it open and doing freehand work on the robes. What do you all think? And give me ideas on henchmen, already!

There will probably be another update tonight, including a new character.

Some really nice updates since I last checked, the inquisitor is looking amazing and I can't wait to see him and the rest of the warband finished.

Great miniatures and cool design. Can't wait for seeing more stuff.

I like the weapon you put on this inquisitor, do you have any closer pictures of said gun?

DexterKong wrote:

He is just about finished. The brim of his hat is drying, then I need to do a little cutting and shaping to it before I do the "body" of the hat. I also started work on a sniper. I thought I would have pics of him tonight, but it looks like I won't have him pic-ready until tomorrow.

thanks for the pic man that is a sweet gun, and im looking foward to catch a glimps of the inq

My senior Witch Hunter Inquisitor is almost finished. His supercool hat is drying, and when it does I will do some detail work on it, and that should be it for him, unless I decide to add some more detail to his robes. I'm leaning towards keeping them bare so I can do freehand work on them, but I may add some trinkets hanging from his belt.



The other character I started yesterday is a sniper-monk. I had the idea for a sect of Imperial monks that have a very Zen take on the Imperial Cult, and believe that enlightenment and self-realization is attained through meditation, prayer, and military service to the highest Imperial powers. Their calm, almost pacifist demeanor make them excellent snipers, and frequently offer their services to Inquisitors and the Imperial Cult. The first thing about this idea is the glaringly obvious; this is not exactly GrimDark. So, my challenge is to somehow spin this Zen-sniper idea into something that works in the context of 40k.

I based the conversion off the amazing Nurgle Chaos Lord. I wanted my sniper-monk to be fat and happy, so it was a perfect model to start with. Filling in all the gaping sores with green stuff was a bit of a chore, but I got it done without leaving any fingerprints. The hardest part was the face. This is my first time sculpting any sort of facial detail, and I hope that the green stuff dries cleaner than the picture would suggest. If not, I'm going to keep going back and re-working it until I get it perfect. When I held the model up, I realized just how huge he really was. He's actually taller than a Terminator. Clearly he has a pretty serious case of acromegaly.



Later today I'm going to tackle putting his rifle together. I wanted him to have a completely unique weapon, which seems to be turning into an obsession for me. Hopefully I'll have updates tonight, but no promises.

DexterKong wrote:My senior Witch Hunter Inquisitor is almost finished. His supercool hat is drying, and when it does I will do some detail work on it, and that should be it for him, unless I decide to add some more detail to his robes. I'm leaning towards keeping them bare so I can do freehand work on them, but I may add some trinkets hanging from his belt.



updates tonight, but no promises.

that is one badass model! What pieces did you use to make him?

Very cool conversions. The monk is looking pretty good. I like his hand a lot. I'd say his smile needs some work, but it's a good first go for sure. Did you use some smiling Buddhas for reference?

Inq looking good im interested to see what you do with chubbs over there as ive seen him being used alot recently

swampyturtle:
His body is the Chaos Sorcerer Lord, with arms from the Empire Battle Wizard set. His gun is put together from a Kroot rifle and some lantern-looking bit which I'm not entirely sure where it came from.

The Good Green:
I agree with you, his smile is the most difficult part. I did indeed look at smiling Buddha statues for reference, as well as faces of smiling sumo and Samoan men. The real difficulty in the sculpt is getting the smile-lines created by his cheeks to sit properly next to the mouth. The issue I am struggling with is that when I attempt to correct the cheeks, it impacts the mouth, and vice versa, so I have this back-and-forth thing. After taking that picture I made the smile look a little more convincing, and am letting it dry completely before I go back with a fresh perspective. One thing that keeps coming back to me from my human figure classes in college was a bit of advice my professor gave me. He said "take clay off and put clay on. You accomplish very little by just pushing clay around on the surface." This is harder with green stuff for obvious reasons, but by sticking to this advice as best I can, I am making good progress. As I said, considering this is my first real attempt at scratch-sculpting any part of a face in this scale, I think it's coming along rather well. I won't settle for anything that doesn't reach my own standards though, and am prepared to work his stupid fat face until I'm old and gray.

Rogue Wolves:
Thanks, and I agree that this model has been used a lot lately. I wanted to do something with him, as the model is really unique. You don't see a lot of fatties in the GW range (ogres don't count). Most of the conversions I've seen of him thus far have been using the Ork Nob weapons, but I figured that somebody that fat would probably prefer a much less aerobic form of military service. Thus, I made him a sniper. The idea of him sitting on his fat butt in a tower all day (which he doubtlessly took an elevator to the top of, rather than the stairs), eating candy bars, waiting for his intended target to wander in sight is something I think makes him a unique character.

Since my last update, I added a few purity seals to the back of Orazio, as well as extending his stole to the inside of his right sleeve. His hat got a band around the base, and when the putty is dry, I'll add an =I= symbol to the front. Gyatso Tok (fatsnipermonk) is almost dry, and when he is I'll go back with a hobby knife and a new batch of green stuff to keep working on his mouth, cheeks and chins. I also need a nick-name for him. Something the others call him behind his back to make fun of his "glandular problem", but don't have the heart to say to his face because he's just such a nice guy. I'm thinking "Snacks".

haha nice one i agree he should look good compaired to what we usually see, it also helps having some nice gs skill

You senior witch hunter is top notch


Very impressive work!

This thread keeps getting better and better.

Like the direction the monk is moving in.

Have you seen Migsula's work?

Wicked stuff.... I can't believe I haven't seen this thread until now!

That witch hunter is just lovely and the weapons made of lanterns and vents are just great.

The Tech Priest is also brilliant.

Hope to see some paint on these guys soon.

Peter

speedfreek:
Migs is one of the two people that inspired me to start this project

PDH:
I said the same thing when I saw your thread! I had seen your Nurgle Lord conversion featured over on the Molotov's Inq28, and that's what really inspired me to do my own version.

Late last night I did some more work on the Navigator, and he is very close to being done. Orazio likewise is almost done. I just need to do a little bit of sanding on his hat, and add the =I= to the front. Gyatso's smile is looking much better. I'll have pics of all of these later this afternoon.

I know you did....I had a look in your gallery after you posted in my thread. Good old Molotov...I hope he gets some modelling done this week! Nice update over on Inq28 too.

Looking forward to more pics.

Peter

hows your special husky fella going?

Rogue Wolves wrote:hows your special husky fella going?

Still fat, but in my opinion, less stupid-looking now.


I think once his cheeks dry and I use a little liquid green stuff to fill in any cracks between the brown stuff and green stuff, his face should be done. Time for another anecdote from a different college class in human figure. This one was exclusively a drawing class, but something the professor said holds very true here. Part of our homework was to do a certain amount of anatomical sketches a week, focusing on different body parts. As it turned out, this was a great way to get girls to come home with me and take their clothes off. One of the other students in the class was a woman in her early 40s or so, and asked the professor's opinion on doing sketches of someone who was heavy. She was married, her husband was a little on the pudgy side, and she didn't feel comfortable asking some random guy at the gym to pose for her. The professor said not to use overweight models, because fat doesn't really obey any rules, it just sits there, you don't know what's going on underneath it, and it really just ends up making you more confused. The point is, with Gyatso here being the porky fellow that he is, it's hard for me to know if I have the anatomy of his face right, because fat makes no sense. I'm going to have to trust it, and make sure I give it one hell of a paint job. I'm still very open for suggestions on how to improve him, however.

Orazio is about done. I added the =I= symbol to his hat, and although it looks a bit like a Green Lantern symbol right now, I'll get it right in painting. Unless someone points out a glaring inconsistency that I missed, he's ready to be painted.



I did a lot of work on my Navigator last night. He is about finished. The lower portion of his staff dried at an angle, so I am going to cut it off and re-glue it so that it dries parallel to the upper portion. I am going to give him a decorative headband that will serve to cover up his Warp Eye. I purposely gave him hands that were a bit larger than proportions say they should be (wait, there's proportions in 28mm Heroic scale?), as Navigators can possess huge, webbed hands and feet. I didn't give him any visible weapons. Who needs a gun when you can kill somebody by looking at them with your third eye? Also, for all I know his staff could have digital weapons built-in.



I've decided to give the Navigator a retinue of guards from his House militia. My Navigator is the Heirs Apparent of a House that is closely linked to the House of the Paternova through marriages. Due to this, he is fantastically wealthy and outrageously weird, and I want his militia to reflect that sense of opulence.



These are some quick guys I threw together this afternoon. I don't know if they are convincing, or if they look too much like I took Empire Greatswords and did some lazy weapon swaps with 40k kits. Opinions, please.

Also, while on the subject of the Navigator, I need to invent a House for him. This means I need to come up with a fancy name, and a House crest. The crest will be fairly simple, as I will have to paint it free-hand on him and every member of his retinue. I'm thinking it will simply be a star, or the eclipse of a star, on a field of dark color. I want to use a color for the star that I probably won't use elsewhere on my Inq28 models, such as a bring pink/purple, or neon green, or something to that effect. Something that clearly sets them apart as their own element, and has a tone of opulence and wealth to it. The color will act as an accent color for the models, not just on the crest, so if I continue to use the Greatswords as the basis for the militia, the plumes on their hats will likely end up this color.

Thoughts?

lets see chubbs is looking better i see the mouth isnt as cartoony looking, as usuall the =][= looks amazing, ready for painting in my oppinion, navigator looks awsome the top of his staff reminds me of ulga's or what ever her name is from the dark crystal, her giant galaxy timer thingy, love his right hand is that a sculpt or a bit? And the fantasy guards look good for Navs. style i like it, im only worried that greatsword guy might be leaning foward too much

Gyatso - is coming along nicely. I like how he is almost holding his belly. One suggestion is make his cork base a little thinner as he is already monstrously tall.

The Witch Hunter is looking pretty nifty in his hat. I think the purity seals on his back need to be redone before he is finished. They don't look right or as good as the rest of the model at the moment. Actually you could get away with doing just the right one, it looks squashed.

Navigator is cool, mutant hands are a good idea.

You could just use the same kind of glued on purity seals as in the front, to make them match each other better.

Badass Inquisitor and Navigator, keep up the good work.

There's some really interesting work going on in this thread. I applaud you for the amount of self-sculpting you're doing; I've never really been able to do such things.

Looking at Moretti, I think you need to rip off all the purity seals. Replace them with aluminium foil - for an example, have a look at Jakob Rune Neilsen's PMW entry here. Your purity seals are simply too large and overpowering at the moment, and need to be scaled down slightly.

I really like the posing on Moretti, and you've created an interesting character out of unusual bits. I'm inspired to create something of my own!

The Heavy is a cool idea, but I would've gone one step further and actually given him some robes over his corpulent frame - exploited the "Friar Tuck" idea.

As for the Navigator, your ideas sound good - the idea of the eclipsed star is interesting, and suitably mystical. Considering having him hail from the house of Celestino (Celestial/Celestino?) - a Navigator house I created for my Rogue Trader crew.

I'm keen to see more of this - this is a blog that makes me revisit Dakka!

I've never tried foil purity seals before. Is there a trick to them to keep them from tearing? Foil seems like a hideously brittle material. I'd really like to try using them though, so I may give them a shot. I agree, after a second look, that the purity seals on his back aren't good enough. The one on the right got squashed while drying (I probably picked him up without paying attention to which parts I was grabbing), so both of them are getting removed. If I try the foil purity seals and find that they are too fragile, I'll use plastic purity seals from my Space Marine kits.
I hadn't considered putting robes on Gyatso, although I do like the idea. It would certainly push the monk idea further, and after Orazio's cloak, I'm feeling pretty confident in my ability to sculpt folds in cloth.
I'll put in another update later today, including the purity seals on Orazio, robes on Gyatso, and possibly some more House militia for my Navigator.

Also, would anyone know someone I could trade with for this model?

I should just clarify - I don't mean aluminium foil that you'd use in the kitchen to cover food, etc. I mean either cutting up an aluminium drinks can (coke, etc.) - of if you want slightly softer metal, you could try a tomato puree tube.

Aaah okay, that makes much more sense then. I have just the thing to try that out on. Thanks!

You should be able to use scissors to cut it to shape - just beware, because once you cut it, the metal can have very, very sharp edges - file it down so you don't slice your fingers open!

unfortinatly i dont know anyone with that warrior priest model but i'll keep an eye out as i'd love to see what you make with him


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although i do plan on getting a few of him for some =][= munda conversions and might be interested to trade, just depends on for what ya know

We converted him to be a warrior-priest in an Ordo Hereticus warband. You can see him here and then on the right here, where you can see the backpack we gave him.

A nice figure, though - and very 40k, in his own way!

thats the model that made me want to get this guy as molotov makes some great guys

I wanted to have a photo update tonight, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. I've been working on my entry for the Throne of Skulls painting contest, and have gotten minimal conversion work done on the Inq28 kids today. However, I did get a brown stuff base on Gyatso for me to sculpt his robes over. I was really nervous going into that, scared that I was going to cover up too much of the model and ruin it. However, even a rough base of brown stuff, with ugly finger prints all over it, has shown me that Molotov hasn't steered me wrong, and it is going to make that model stand out even more. I based his robe design on the traditional robes of Buddhist monks, so his right shoulder and arm are bare.
I did some experimenting with foil purity seals, using foil from empty tubes of oil paint. I liked the possibilities, but in the end I wasn't comfortable enough with this new method to put it on Orazio, who is one of the most important characters I will be building. I found some plastic purity seals in my bits box that were not duplicates of each other, and used those instead. It looks good, so he's ready for painting. I will be doing one more Inquisitor for that trio, based off the Warrior Priest model I linked to earlier. If I can't trade someone for it or find a decent auction on eBay, I'll buy one this weekend. It's only $11.50. I am thinking of downgrading the first Inquisitor in this thread, Orazio's son Antoni, and the un-build Warrior Priest Inquisitor to Interrogator status. Not that it will matter much in terms of the models, but in the fiction I'm creating to go along with it, I don't need to be throwing around lofty titles so carelessly.
I'll see if I can't get some pics of Gyatso and his WIP robe up tomorrow, and possibly throw together some more House militia for my Navigator.

I love what you are doing. I am working on some dark mechanicus for my nurgle legion to act as auxilla. where did you order your clockwork bits from?

You are doing an awsome job overall. very convincing conversions. Cant wait to see the tech priest. Awesome.

I got the clockwork bits on eBay. If you search for "watch parts", you can find tons of auctions selling bags of gears and cogs and various watch parts, although to my disappointment, about half of the pieces in the lot I bought are probably not going to be of any use to me. Still, for what I paid, it was a good buy.

Thanks for the compliments!

I just went there and found a lot for 5 dollars with free shipping. the bits you got, were they too big? How many did you get and how many were the right size. I am just wondering because there are a few more lots that have free shipping and the same price tag. Hard to tell what i am getting since the pic is of A lot not THE lot that i am going to be recieving.
BTW. if you go to a music store that re strings guitar and other instruments, you can ask for old used strings to use in your models and get tons for free that way you can build up the mechadendrites etc. for your tech priest.
edit. i went ahead and just bought a second bag anyways, 10 $ is less than i usually spend on a single mini and since i have to construct all manner of nasty Chaos Mechanicum, those bits will come in usefull no matter what.

Yeah it's a bit of a crap shoot. I would say that every piece I got is of a size that is usable in 28mm scale. The smallest ones I got are the size of the gears I have on my Enginseer's servo arm, and the biggest one is about the diameter of a nickle. Most are closer to the size of the smaller gears though.
As far as the strings go, I play guitar, so I hang on to strings when I break them or wear them out. One of my guitars is about due for a re-stringing as it is, so I'm good on that front. Thanks for the tip though!

The warrior priest models are really nice and with minimal effort you can be turned into 40k characters.

What have you in mind for the one with hammers (the back of the model is great too)? I'm planning on using him again for my latest warband.

I've got my fingers crossed that the rumours are true and there are a further 18 plastic single frame miniatures being released and surely one of them will be another priest

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/406467.page

Well, I was thinking that I would turn the Warrior Priest into an Interrogator. The first Inquisitor I posted in this thread has been demoted to Interrogator, and I wanted to create a narrative within the group. Orazio is a famous Witch Hunter, and his son Antoni is the model in my second post here. I want two Interrogators serving under Orazio. The second, as-of-yet unnamed, Interrogator is the Warrior Priest. My basic premise was that Antoni and Other Interrogator were classmates in the Schola Progenium, and both were selected by Orazio for service in the Inquisition. The basic difference between the two is that Antoni's mindset is that he is destroying the wicked, while Other Interrogator believes he is protecting the innocent. More or less the same thing in practice, but the difference in perspective greatly influences their personalities. Thus, Antoni does not have much in the way of purity seals or any sort of holy trinkets. Other Interrogator, on the other hand, should have tons of purity seals, scrolls, and other devotional charms. There is a tension between the two characters, as Antoni has a superiority complex, while Other Interrogator is worried that Antoni's cruelty may signify the touch of Chaos.

After reading that thread, and learning that 18 more plastic minis will be released, I may hold off on buying the Warrior Priest for now, and see what gets put out. I won't wait six months to see, but I may put him off until Christmas.

oo if that model comes in plastic i have a feeling we'll be seeing him in great conversions as much as we see that fat nurgle guy

Morning Dex

I actually meant what did you have in mind for the conversion of the priest with the hammers? Head swap, arm swap, weapons? You mentioned a ton of purity seals which I whole heartedly approve of . I use Green Stuff purity seals and find them to be just fine, you just have to discipline yourself too not touch the model until they are dry (this part is difficult but better than the feeling of "bugger" I've put my finger in it).

I do like the idea of them being polar opposites in their methods of performing the Emperor's will. I could see them coming into conflict over a lot of things which could make for an interesting campaign down the line once both are Inquisitors.

I really hope that the 18 plastics really do get released. I've got my fingers crossed on some more 40k conversion fodder

Great job on reworking Gyatso's face it's a lot more subtle and less Pillsbury Doughboy now.

The Witchhunter gives off a very serious vibe with that low hat-brim, it's a fantastic model and oozes that feeling of going about his task with grim determination.

The Greatsword guys do still look a little fantasy at the moment but should tie in nicely once there's a common colour scheme with their "boss". Maybe a few bionics would help?
Looking forward to more.

Peter's mentioning of your blog brought me here and I must say he didn't lie, it's great! Right up my alley.
Always great to have a fresh face/blog in the Imunda/Inq28 community.

You have some great stuff here, DexterKong! I love working on unique characters, and I live vicariously through other peoples unique characters when I'm working on mundane stuff

I saw the link from PDH's Odds and Ends PMblog, so he can get the kudos for my "subbed"

Keep up the great work!
Rawson

Hello again everyone. My apologies for going almost a week without an update. Way too many parties were thrown over the Halloween weekend. However, I did manage to get a bit of work done, and I'm back at my desk today working to get back to my previous pace.

At the moment, I don't have many images to show you, but I did take this yesterday:

Gyatso's sniper rifle, complete in it's customized glory. The standard sniper rifle model was simply too small for him, and as I'm sure you all have noticed by now, I'm developing a love of converting custom firearms. I'm going to try to find a way to add a trigger guard to it, but other than that it is finished.

Gyatso himself is getting his robes sculpted on at the moment. They are about 50% done. When I'm finished the robes, I'll slap on his right arm and convert it so that he is holding the sniper rifle. Then he'll be ready to paint.

Speaking of painting, I primed four minis today which I will probably being painting tonight. Three of them are the Confessor, Templar and Preacher from the first page of the thread. They will be getting cream-white robes with plenty of gold detailing and embroidery, and I am thinking a deep, purple-crimson as their accent color. The fourth mini I have primed is the tracker mercenary, who is a very simple model, but I think he still has a lot of character and should be fun to paint. I am not sure what colors I am going to do him in yet, as he is a mercenary and doesn't conform to the warband color schemes I have in my head. Since I want to give him a bayou feel, I may go for tanned skin, and olive clothing. Maybe with a dirty white as an accent color. Thoughts?

The other progress I made over the last week was adding two more members to the Navigator's retinue of House militia. I decided, after building them, that I hated the lasgun design I had built, and am going to replace them with repeater handguns from the Outriders set. However, right now I pretty strapped for cash, and am going to have to hold off on buying new minis and parts for a little while. Which means, finishing the models I have now, and painting what I can.

That rocks! I want to build custom firearms now!

Great sniper rifle!

sweet sniper, im interested to see the big boy weilding it!

As long as his mustache is as proportionally epic as the sniper rifle, he'll look cool.

No mustache, I'm afraid, but his belly is epic enough to compensate for that.

Here's Gyatso as he stands right now:



I just finished working the putty on his back, and when that dries I'm going to give him a simple rope belt. I'll also clean up the green stuff using files and liquid green stuff, as some areas are a little sloppy. What do you guys think about paint schemes for him? I am going to give him a very bronzed skin tone, like if he were from Polynesia or Indonesia. I was originally thinking orange robes, but I think since his skin tone is going to be warm, his robes should offset that. Keep in mind that he is a monk, and his robes are a mark of his holy order.

Right then, back to the painting desk. Gotta get started on my Ecclesiarchy guys.

aww i like him, maybie you should add a small equila or =][= o a dogtag type chain hanging from his belt


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im thinking maybie some blues/greys for the clothing

I was thinking a blue/gray as well. And the symbol hanging from the belt is a great idea. It won't be an =I= symbol, since he technically is not a member of the Inquisition. He is a monk of a backwater branch of the Imperial Cult, and is serving under an Inquisitor for a short period of time. In that sense, while he functions as part of the Inquisitor's retinue, he is not officially inducted in as an acolyte. I was thinking an Imperial Cult symbol, or a deviation of it that would be unique for his temple. I'll put some thought into that.

Painting is coming along well. I hope to have PIP pictures up tomorrow.

Have you found a trigger guard yet? Have you looked at the little handle looking bits that come with an imperial tank? I've used one on my "counts-as-flamer" BBQ:

It's at the top of the BBQ, as the handle for the lid. Its a weedy as all get out bit but it might be worth checking to see if it fits. The monk is looking good by the way.

Gyatso is looking good....very monkish.

I agree with rogue wolves and think an "Imperial Dogtag" would look good.

The Good Green:
I'm not sure which bit you're talking about. Can you provide a pic? I looked around at pictures of the vehicle accessory sprue but couldn't find anything.

I think he means the plastic hatch handles

I've got a painting update on the Ecclesiarchy boys. This is still fairly early in the process. Some areas are still just have a coat of primer on them. I'm uploading this to show you my color scheme and get some feedback on it. I wanted to move away from the traditional Imperial Cult color scheme of red/white/black, but not too far away. I ended up going for beige/cream and purple for the cloth, with purple obviously serving as the accent color, and using plenty of metallics where I can. I like the color choice, as it is still has a very strong clergy feel to it, and the purple also lends a sense of royalty to things. If GW ever actually makes some plastic Sisters of Battle (I'm not holding my breath), I will get a double to use as an honor guard, and paint them in a similar color scheme. As of right now, the purple and gold are just a base coat, and the silver has only one wash on it. The robes are about 70% done, and need a bit more shadow glazing to get them where I want them. The faces are done, except the right eye of the Preacher. It's a little hard to tell in the image, but I'm having trouble getting that eye into the shape I want it. For the longest time it had a square pupil which was driving me nuts.



So, comments please on the color scheme. I'm going to spend a few hours painting today, and hope to finish the robes and start the glazing on the purple areas. When that is done, I'll be doing TMM on the metals, using the handy-dandy free download of Les' TMM tutorial I got from MiniWarGaming as a guide. I am pondering two things at the moment, that I would like to get input on. First, for the purity seals, should I do a red wax seal or purple? And for the Templar, I am most likely going to do OSL from his torch. Any input on how strong the light source should be, or if I should even do it at all?

exelent color choices on these ones it goes together perfectly


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if you do osl dont make it go off of the pole because i think it is too high up for any major glow on his face or gun

OMG, the creamy color of the robes is Fantastic! Don't change that! work those shadows! Make sure whatever you do to the trim around those robes that the color is on the opposite side of the cream on the color wheel. That purple lightened just a bit with something will look spot-on!


D00d,
I am absolutely in love with that hand flamer!

Sometimes, my primer coats can actually fill in parts of the sculpt and the eyelids are physically off-kilter because of the unwanted texture. are the eyelids off?

Thanks for the compliments. The purple is going to be highlighted by mixing it with red rather than white, which will make the highlights look warm and really pop. The shadows are going to be glazes in using a dark blue, so they will be cool and the purple will have a pretty dramatic effect.

Oh Yeah red! good choice! Color selection is the hardest thing for me, so if I yak about it, feel free to ignore me

The choice of colours on the Ecclesiarchy is just perfect.

So I added the shadows, and for the highlights I decided to experiment with Liquitex glazing medium, instead of thinning the paint with water and applying super-thin coats. Putting the paint on was like a dream, and required a lot less effort than the water method, but apparently the glazing medium has some sort of gloss in it, as everywhere that was highlighted now has a glossy finish. I'm going to try to go over it today using the water method to see if I can cover up the gloss with a matt finish, if not, I'll have to wait until the end and spray them with matt varnish.
No pics for right now, sorry, but I'll get some up later today or tomorrow.

Loving the fat guy! I also can't wait to see the finished priests; their colour scheme is fantastic.

I love the work you have done here! As a hobbyist looking to get into INQ28, this and all the other grea blogs on dakka are a great inspiration to me. Now, my question is, where did you amass such a bits collection? I have no where near that amount of stuff and I've been in the hobby very actively for 5ish years.

UG

This is looking brilliant I'm especially impressed with the scratchbuilt servo-arm and I'm loving the archaic feel of the rogue traders house retainers.

UG:
A lot of it came from the trade-in program with BlueTablePainting (look for them on youtube for the details). I got credited about $350 for sending them all my old crap that was just taking up space, and ordered a bunch of sets strictly for bits. I also don't shy away from buying a model to use just one part on it. For example, I bought a Skaven Warp Engineer off eBay just for his pistol. The real key to amassing a bits collection is to get rid of that feeling that you need to build as many models as you possibly can. When I first started in the hobby, if I could get together a pair of legs, arms, a torso and a head, I would slap them together and put paint on it. It didn't matter how well the pieces went together, I just wanted to put together models. Now, I only build models if I have a specific idea in mind for them. This leads me to accumulate a lot of unused parts. I do my best to keep them organized, and my bits storage is pretty elaborate. So now, when I have an idea for a model, I have a lot of resources to draw on, and I rarely have to buy something new to get the parts I need to make it work.

Yeah, I am trying to do something similar by selling off old models on eBay and hopefully using the money made to fund my hobby purchases, which will include some bits and hopefully some INQ fodder.

No pics, but a little shred of good news. Earlier today I talked about how the glazing medium I used for the initial highlights on the purple cloth gave a glossy finish. Fortunately, glazing over the glossy areas using paint watered down about 4:1 covered up the gloss finish pretty quickly, and I was able to build up the highlights again without having to go back and re-paint all the purple areas. Crisis averted! Pics tomorrow (promise!)

Painting update:


As you can see, I was able to highlight the purple and cover up the glossyness of the initial highlights. I think I achieved some pretty good transitions, and warmed up the purple enough to be a strong compliment to the beige robes. The metals are nearly done, I just need to go back and glaze in some shadows here and there. Other than that, some details remain (purity seals, the pages in the Preacher's book), but these guys are rapidly nearing completion.

Let's talk for a minute about that torch and OSL. Obviously the torch up until now has only received thin coats of yellow to build up a base. I really want to do some OSL on him, but I have only tried OSL once before. You can see that attempt here:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/290505
If you guys could please look at that model, and give me your feedback on the OSL, I would really appreciate it. The reason I uploaded it to CMON was to try and get some feedback on my technique, especially ways to improve it. Unfortunately, after uploading four images to CMON and receiving almost 140 votes total, I have not been left a single comment on any of the images. I don't mind low scores, I really don't I'm there to try and learn something, not to be the guy that people fawn over in droves. So, if my readers here would kindly leave me feedback on the OSL, on here or over on CMON, I would really appreciate it. Don't really care if you rate my image a 1, I just want to get opinions on how I can get better. I think doing some yellow-orange OSL on my Templar would really compliment well with the purple, and I am hell bent on NOT screwing the model up. So, to end my rant, give me feedback, or I swear I will slap yellow and orange paint on that Templar in such a hideous fashion your eyes will melt right out of their sockets.

you've done the purple well and for OSL http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/404860.page

Honestly, it looks perfect, I don't have any crit whatsoever!

Dexter - The purple looks good. Nice Skaven Warlord. I think it looks great. I'm no expert and have always used http://www.coolminiornot.com/articles/1288 Though I have always used quite subtle effects. For yellow I'm not sure which colours I'd use I'm afraid. Look at the link Rogue Wolves bunged up it makes sense. I'd probably paint the metal frame black/silhouetted.

Edit - How did you paint the grey/red skin around the eyes of the nurgle sorcerer? I really like it.


Rogue Wolves - That is a great tutorial...cheers.

It helped me a lot so I thought it would help

Thanks for the tutorial links. What I think I'm going to do is paint up the torch for now without adding the OSL. I'm going to throw together a quick test model using a leftover torch from the Mordheim Witch Hunter model that I used to create Interrogator Antoni Moretti, and he'll be my guinea pig for natural flame-colored OSL.

PDH:
His skin was originally painted with Vallejo Sombre Gray, which is a medium blue-gray. I highlighted it by mixing with increasing quantities of GW Rotting Flesh. Final highlights were GW Rotting Flesh mixed with GW Bleached Bone. For the raw skin effects around the eyes, pustules, and knuckles, I did washes of GW Scab Red until I had achieved the look I wanted.

I hadn't realised you made quite so much progress - you didn't tell me! Looking forward to seeing more on your tubby monk especially.

Hopefully I'll finish the conversion work on the monk today. I've been procrastinating him because I'm going to need to sculpt his right forearm and hand, and that frightens me a bit. But if I was able to sculpt most of his face, I should be able to sculpt his hand. Pics will be uploaded as soon as the GS dries.

The painting progress looks amazing; the gold works really well and makes the purple look incredibly rich and velvety. I can't wait to see them finished. You've inspired me to start an Inq28 blog (see my sig) and I'd like to say thanks!

DexterKong wrote:Painting update:


As you can see, I was able to highlight the purple and cover up the glossyness of the initial highlights. I think I achieved some pretty good transitions, and warmed up the purple enough to be a strong compliment to the beige robes. The metals are nearly done, I just need to go back and glaze in some shadows here and there. Other than that, some details remain (purity seals, the pages in the Preacher's book), but these guys are rapidly nearing completion.

Let's talk for a minute about that torch and OSL. Obviously the torch up until now has only received thin coats of yellow to build up a base. I really want to do some OSL on him, but I have only tried OSL once before. You can see that attempt here:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/290505
If you guys could please look at that model, and give me your feedback on the OSL, I would really appreciate it. The reason I uploaded it to CMON was to try and get some feedback on my technique, especially ways to improve it. Unfortunately, after uploading four images to CMON and receiving almost 140 votes total, I have not been left a single comment on any of the images. I don't mind low scores, I really don't I'm there to try and learn something, not to be the guy that people fawn over in droves. So, if my readers here would kindly leave me feedback on the OSL, on here or over on CMON, I would really appreciate it. Don't really care if you rate my image a 1, I just want to get opinions on how I can get better. I think doing some yellow-orange OSL on my Templar would really compliment well with the purple, and I am hell bent on NOT screwing the model up. So, to end my rant, give me feedback, or I swear I will slap yellow and orange paint on that Templar in such a hideous fashion your eyes will melt right out of their sockets.

Hi DK, been following your blog on and off these last couple of weeks as I'm venturing into INQ28 territory (not played the game yet, still at the stage of putting together figures for a warband). I find your figures to be exceptional. You're work's inspired! (don't panic, I not going to ask you for money, famed though we Scots are for bumming cash from folk ) It's given me loads of ideas though I doubt if many of them will come to fruition. Anyway, why I'm writing on your blog is to comment on you're OSL attempts. I'm not a big fan of OSL but, be that as it may I think, looking at your Skaven figure, that you haven't made your contrasts deep enough. By that I mean if you are going have areas of the figure lit up by, in this case, an overhead torch then the areas in shade need to be a lot darker for it to look right.For instance the basket of the torch may benefit from having a thin line of black painted down the centre to emulate the brightness of the torch casting light on the all of the basket but for the parts completely outside the lights aura, do you know what I mean? Also, under the figures chin, arms etc would need to be really dark too, veering towards black. The strong light from the nearby torch casting these parts into the darkest shadows as they are parts outside its reach. Of course this is only my opinion but I hope it helps you. I personally think that OSL really would only work best in a boxed diorama.
Okay, constructive criticism bit over, keep up the jaw dropping, eye popping work. I really do like it

butchyboy:
Thanks for the compliments. It's good to know that my efforts these last few years to bring my painting and converting skills to a higher level are paying off. And a big thanks for the review on my OSL technique. I definitely agree with you about the shadows, now that I take another look at it. When I had originally painted it, I painted the figure without OSL, and then added the lighting when the figure itself was done. So, I had the shadows from the ambient light already painted in, but one thing I didn't do was go in and add the shadows cast by the green flames.
I'm on the rope about OSL for figures that could be used in a game. I myself am not a gamer, and unless someone asks to buy these figures, they won't be used in a game. However, you do run into a level of sillyness when you do OSL outside of a diorama setting. If I do prefect lighting effects on the Templar, great. He'll look superb as an individual model. But what happens when I set him next to another model? Does the OSL effect instantly get ruined? And if so, if I am going for the best paint jobs I can do as an artist, will that nullify the point of doing OSL in the first place. This is what I'm bouncing around in my head at the moment. I'd love to hear more feedback on the issue.

DexterKong wrote:butchyboy:
Thanks for the compliments. you earned them
If I do prefect lighting effects on the Templar, great. He'll look superb as an individual model. But what happens when I set him next to another model? Does the OSL effect instantly get ruined? And if so, if I am going for the best paint jobs I can do as an artist, will that nullify the point of doing OSL in the first place. only one thing for it, you'll have to make two identical figures and paint one for gaming and the other with OSL