Hi, Dakka. Now, what is the strangest proxying you have ever seen? I would have to say the time when an 8-year old tried to convince me to let him use a sprue for a Space Marine Commander.
That would've been a kid using invisible Mycetic Spores. When I told him he had to have a model to represent them as they had a statline, were worth KPs etc. His response: "Well there's no model for them so I don't have to use one until it comes out."
I played against a guy who was using tyranids, most models consisted of a few components of the models on bases with some old school de warriors chucked in for something.
Couldn't remember what any of the damn units were I was fighting lol.
Heard of someone using coke cans and such for drops pods also.
Strangest I've seen would be Dark Angels representing daemons. Azrael is a greater daemon of Khorne? Oh... crap. Says a lot about what was thought of the fluff though, heh.
I played against a guy who tried to pass off a bunch of Yu-Gi-Oh cards taped together in a vague pyramid shape as a Monolith. It was our first game. I also used to run a plastic cup with a stormbolter glued on it and DROP POD written on the side as, you guessed it, a drop pod.
I once proxied a plastic toy reindeer for a Trygon, that managed to destroy two Leman Russ tanks in one game! My friend refused to play against that model ever again after that!
On a side note, the plastic reindeer could poop out little black jelly beans...
Jihadnik wrote:I once proxied a plastic toy reindeer for a Trygon, that managed to destroy two Leman Russ tanks in one game! My friend refused to play against that model ever again after that!
On a side note, the plastic reindeer could poop out little black jelly beans...
Jihadnik wrote:I once proxied a plastic toy reindeer for a Trygon, that managed to destroy two Leman Russ tanks in one game! My friend refused to play against that model ever again after that!
On a side note, the plastic reindeer could poop out little black jelly beans...
I actually have one of those...
Ba ha ha! I thought I was the only one, was it a wacky christmas present?!
Jihadnik wrote:I once proxied a plastic toy reindeer for a Trygon, that managed to destroy two Leman Russ tanks in one game! My friend refused to play against that model ever again after that!
On a side note, the plastic reindeer could poop out little black jelly beans...
I actually have one of those...
Ba ha ha! I thought I was the only one, was it a wacky christmas present?!
The worst I've seen were pieces of expanded polystyrene(styrofoam) that were cut into "proper" base sizes and used as warriors of chaos. Just blank white foam bases.
It was a friendly game with people who didn't own any fantasy armies so yeah. I was teaching them how to play to see if I could garner interest in it locally.
Jihadnik wrote:I once proxied a plastic toy reindeer for a Trygon, that managed to destroy two Leman Russ tanks in one game! My friend refused to play against that model ever again after that!
On a side note, the plastic reindeer could poop out little black jelly beans...
I once played against a unit of 100 spider riders back in 5th ed WHFB which were empty bases.
This one is a classic, a true classic. What I love most about this army is the face that it comes with what appears to be a tickle-me-elmo daemon prince
I once played against a unit of 100 spider riders back in 5th ed WHFB which were empty bases.
This isn't a terrible proxy - it's MODELLING GENIUS.
I've been threatening to build an army like this for ages. There was a guy on here recently who was building a Tzeentch daemon army of 'gelatinous cubes' out of melted polystyrene - they actually looked amazing...
These aren'y proxies in my book - they're a fantastic, characterful counts-as army which someone has obviously put time and effort into...
I saw a game being played with a guy who was using the clear plastic GW 'blister pack' covers, ripped off the cardboard backing that the blisters come on, and using them on the table as Eldar War Walkers.
I was quite amazed that someone would choose to play against that.
That army apparently also had a proxy of the Tyranid codex being used as the butchery of rules I was overhearing was painful. The player really did not have a Tyranid codex and did not want to check the store's copy as he "remembered it all well enough."
I actually had to stop my game and stare a few times in disbelief, but I did well and said nothing. At least during the game. Afterward I asked his opponent if he understood that Tyranids do not actually work like that. (He didn't - it was his first time playing against them and trusted the other guy was being true.)
Some of it was egregious, like assault grenades and Eternal Warrior, some of it was just silly like insisting on TLOS and complex wound distribution for his Krootox "Carnifex". Most of it I have blocked out in my memory.
Hi, lets introduce you all to the idea of permanent proxies. Those are prepared terrain bits on bases used as a stand in for anything.
I have 20 and 25mm square bases for Warhammer with rocks and other scenery on them.
They are a permanent stand in for anything. Got 20 spearmen and want to rep 30, then they get a force multiplier by being in rubble.
It even looks ok, even improves visuals up til about 1 terrain base per four miniatures and is passable at one base per two. I wouldnt go beyond that.
I've had several that were memorable. I played a fellow with a vanilla SM army. He had two dreads in the list. One was a pair of centigors mounted on a big base with a bunch of hight altering scenery. The other was a portal on a base. I will say that was pretty neat, it was just strange. His land speeder was some sort of wearwolf model with a burstcannon on top of it's head. In the more upsetting and less interesting I've seen a kanwall list where almost all the kans and dreads were flying bases. An index car representing a predator tank. And the, apparently, ubiquitous plastic cup drop pods.
Nothing too extreme. Almost every proxy I've encountered has been at least in the same ballpark as the models they were intended to represent, IE, they were still miniatures that were roughly the appropriate size and shape.
The worst I saw are Coke can drop pods, and ages ago in 3rd Edition 40K, when the experimental Harlequin Codex came out, I used some kind of little figure from an anime as a Solitaire.
A friend and I were playing warhams for the first time, using both my armies. We didnt play with objectives and we only had two meganobz, so we proxied a pile of guns, nades, clips, and landmines on a termy base as a maganob
DarknessEternal wrote:
I'll never understand people who refuse to play when playing is an option.
Yes but perhaps just against a close mate, in any other circumstance I'm sure most people would ask if you were serious before calling for the men in white coats if you tried to field an army like that
I played Fantasy with mostly squares I printed off in the proper formation with dice as counters for how many extra guys were left. I had painted front ranks, but saw no damn point in building, painting and buying more guys just so they could die to fill out the ranks. No one ever complained, not that I cared about tourneys or anything.
I once saw in a thread some kid make a Hierophant Bio-titan out of tin-foil and use it in an Apoc battle.
I recently played a count-as-Necron army with my tyranids. Used genestealers as warriors, raveners as wraiths, ripper swarms as scarabs and my carnifexes as spyders. I was just trying out the new necrons to see how they play, but now it looks like I may have to build up an army myself.
Hehe, no worries. Can't believe I didn't think to post it in here earlier. Then again, does that really count as proxying? I like to think the guy that made 'em is being artistically cheap. I dunno if he ever painted them though. I hope so too!
Best bit is, if they're made of GW sprues, they're technically Tournament Legal 'cause they're 100% GW parts.
jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:They're 100% Ardboyz legal though, as the req was at least 50% GW
Ardboyz Rules wrote:Any conversions must begin as Citadel models
and contain a majority of Citadel components.
They fit the second part, but not the first. And no amount of rules lawyering the tournament conversion rules is going to get you past a TO who decides that you're just trying to be obnoxious.
Just to be clear, I have no problem with these. I think they're awesome. But trying to pass them off as 'tournament legal' on account of being built from GW sprue is a stretch.
jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:They're 100% Ardboyz legal though, as the req was at least 50% GW
Ardboyz Rules wrote:Any conversions must begin as Citadel models
and contain a majority of Citadel components.
They fit the second part, but not the first. And no amount of rules lawyering the tournament conversion rules is going to get you past a TO who decides that you're just trying to be obnoxious.
Just to be clear, I have no problem with these. I think they're awesome. But trying to pass them off as 'tournament legal' on account of being built from GW sprue is a stretch.
That's fine, wasn't trying to imply otherwise. We were told at both prelims and Semis that the only req was they had to be at least 50% GW. Note that's why I only brought up ArdBoyz, because normal tourneys run differently
JohnnoM wrote:I saw a game where someone used Modular Movement Trays as an army.
That would get annoying pretty fast
I've faced an Ork 40k army and had a Kult of Speed represented by those (the same army featured un-armed orks, and by that I mean orks with actually no arms, not no weapons)
That is actually the coolest orkmodel I have ever seen! Thanks for sharing the link.
Our strangest proxy probably were those roundabout 450 choclate dimes (caramel choclate wrapped in foil about the size of a base) that stood in as Genestealers in the big 20000 pts. game we did back in 2nd edition 40k when we were young. ^^
Tasty casualties for sure.
Only thing I can think of are the common bottle drop pods and a couple of paperback books as land raiders( they kept being forgotten about and spent a couple of turns sitting in the middle of the field before the player remembered about them!)
I have seen some sprue'nids on Dakka before, can't find pics though...
First 40k game against drop pods I ever played the guy was using soda cans (one of which he was still drinking out of), middle of the game his girlfriend comes in takes a swig and walks away with the can. We did not notice until the end of the game.
Oh I've done that. I'm one of two 40k players in the world that doesn't play Space Marines, so I have no Drop Pods. I use Soda Cans as a Spore Pod often assuring my opponent that GW will eventually release a model. I oftentimes forget that the Spore Pod is even on the table and forget the *mandatory* shooting it has.
I have, since gotten to making makeshift tentacles out of excess greenstuff I have from modeling in hopes that I can stick them on a soda can until GW finally releases a Spore Pod in 2017.
Strangest Substitution I've ever seen from other people is several Space Wolves Space Marines consisting of Warmachine models. Their excuse? GW models are too expensive. Wut.
I have seen many odd ones. The two that come to mind was during an apoc game for one of the apoc daemons they used a giant spawn statue and the other was a game aginst a de plaer using baoxes of staples as ravagers lol
I've had to do some odd proxying in my gaming days.
When I arrived for an Apocalypse game, and realized I had to fill 1500 more points, my SW drop pods got double duty as Raiders, and Thunderwolves became flying, furry, laser-barking Ravagers. :p
The worst I've seen was a person running a bret army composed entirely of Goblin Spiders. There were no riders either mind you...just those damn spiders!!
Even the characters were just spiders, and his peg knights were spiders in trees.
It was a well painted army but when there's nothing other than spiders and you have no idea what unit is what and where the characters are let alone what characters they are its quite terrible.
Buttlerthepug wrote:The worst I've seen was a person running a bret army composed entirely of Goblin Spiders. There were no riders either mind you...just those damn spiders!!
Even the characters were just spiders, and his peg knights were spiders in trees.
It was a well painted army but when there's nothing other than spiders and you have no idea what unit is what and where the characters are let alone what characters they are its quite terrible.
YO DAWG... I HEARD YOU LIKED SPIDERS... SO I PUT SPIDERS ON YOUR SPIDERS, IN YOUR SPIDERS, SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT SPIDER IS A SPIDER!!!
I've seen a friend of mind who plays Blood angels with a completely painted set of Blood letters and Chaos. He even played it for the 'Ard boyz tournament. no one gave a solid care about it. He's a solid gamer. Here is a blog
http://thewarmastersrevenge.blogspot.com/
Pieces of cardboard cut out to the correct size of the base, proxied as thunder cavalry, in an apocalypse game, with a battle report posted on youtube.
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Bloodletters
I once played against a unit of 100 spider riders back in 5th ed WHFB which were empty bases.
This isn't a terrible proxy - it's MODELLING GENIUS.
I've been threatening to build an army like this for ages. There was a guy on here recently who was building a Tzeentch daemon army of 'gelatinous cubes' out of melted polystyrene - they actually looked amazing...
These aren'y proxies in my book - they're a fantastic, characterful counts-as army which someone has obviously put time and effort into...
I personally came face to face with this army in vegas, a guy tried to enter a tournament with them and got told off by the TO. We hung out with him after the regular games.
Buttlerthepug wrote:The worst I've seen was a person running a bret army composed entirely of Goblin Spiders. There were no riders either mind you...just those damn spiders!!
Even the characters were just spiders, and his peg knights were spiders in trees.
It was a well painted army but when there's nothing other than spiders and you have no idea what unit is what and where the characters are let alone what characters they are its quite terrible.
Isn't the Brettonian army mostly composed of X knights, Y knights, Z knights, and flying knights; with knight characters?
I can't see how this would be much more complicated than a standard Brettonian army.
I once used decks of Magic cards to proxy land speeders, with heroclix minis standing in for terminator squads in a space marine army, but that was because it was only after the hour and a half train ride did I realize that I'd left one of my foam trays at home...
sarpedons-right-hand wrote:The press out cardboard Ork Dreadnought from the 2nd Ed box set ranks up there....
Ah, I've still got one of those somewhere! The thing I love about that one is that a cardboard cut-out is about as lazy and inappropriate as you can get, and yet it was officially sanctioned, while cans of deodorant and yoghurt pots weren't! Man, that would have been awesome if my 2nd Ed box came with free toiletries, but, nope, it came with cardboard and a little clippy base. This is the "best" pic I could find of it - you can see the Ork "Dread" right in the middle. Anyone got a clearer pic?
Actually, now that I think about it... Is this "model" still legal? Older models are still allowed, so long as they're WYSIWYG. Somebody needs to roll up to a tournament with one of these bad boys (or maybe a whole bunch of them!) and find out.
Someone at my FLGS tried to convince me (back in my early days) that d6s were acctual GW sm drop pods- i fell for it and was owned by miniature drop pods with nothing in them, exept for whirlwind launchers (YAY FW)
a rhino as a chimera
eventualy my FLGSGW staff got wind and halted it. said rhino is now undergoing conversion to a COLOSSUS SEIGE MORTAR. tremble all you MEQ and cover loving players for i shall squash you like the maggots you are .
Lego Police van as an Ork Trukk.
To be fair, size wise it was similar, and we allow proxy's in our gaming group as there is only four of us and this hobby is expensive.
I proxied my skaven for a Chaos Dwarves army out of Tamurkhan. Warp Lightning cannons for Deathshriekers, a rhino chassis (with a minotaur ogre loader) for the mortar, a doomwheel for a Skullcracker, and a bunch of rats as dwarves.
I used to use a full squad of old-school Striking Scorpions as a squad of lootas. I would inform my opponents that they were REALLY good at looting. At least they were green...
The oddest I've witnessed was a squadron of vendettas represented by a paperback 40k book, a shoe and 3 warjacks of some description standing end-to-end to come to approximately the right length. I try not to play Proxyhammer myself, it can get confusing and is I think a little unfair for your opponent. At most I've had one variety of Marine stand in for another i.e. this Devestator is in fact a Sternguard, the Sanguinor is actually just an Assault Sergeant etc.
10 warriors in a night sycthe. The night sycthe was porxied by the warriors that were in it. he couldn't disembark till the night sycthe blew up. Which it never did.
@Bellathrom: That is amazing! Those the blind-bag ponies, or something else?
Though I'm not so sure a Pegasus would use a forehead blade- I'd imagine something more like wing edges. And you missed a golden opportunity there- you could have put Dash in her 20% Cooler outfit!
@Bellathrom: That is amazing! Those the blind-bag ponies, or something else?
Though I'm not so sure a Pegasus would use a forehead blade- I'd imagine something more like wing edges. And you missed a golden opportunity there- you could have put Dash in her 20% Cooler outfit!
thanks man ^_^ yeah their the BB ones (though I got them through the gift and collection set seeing as I cant find them in the UK -_-)
and damn, why didn't I think of wing blades :3 I'll have to see what I can do
This thread might be getting a bit too equine for the tastes of some (not me, I loves me some FiM), but feel free to go horse around in that thread to your heart's content!
This thread might be getting a bit too equine for the tastes of some (not me, I loves me some FiM), but feel free to go horse around in that thread to your heart's content!
I just read the first 2 pages.. is it all a bunch of trolls not comfy with their masculinity or does it get better : P
This thread might be getting a bit too equine for the tastes of some (not me, I loves me some FiM), but feel free to go horse around in that thread to your heart's content!
I just read the first 2 pages.. is it all a bunch of trolls not comfy with their masculinity or does it get better : P
I haven't actually posted in there yet, but from my cursory browsings, yes. It gets much better. Within about four pages or so, the trolling and flaming reduces drastically and then it just gets ponier and ponier. With giganto threads like that, I usually start from the back, anyways. Might as well just jump in at the deep end!
Friend of mine used a tree as a Chaos Dreadnought (actually same base size and rough volume shape as a dread). Needless to say, despite our confidence in our memory, it was forgotten about for 3 turns.
Coke/Pepsi bottles used as drop pods, he actualy glued doors from vehicles. I bet I might get in trouble for saying that, oh, SOPA hasn't gone into effect yet.
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Ventusgermany wrote:This:
You have got to love the Dreadknight!
Is that a kilt in the background?
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Bloodletters
I once played against a unit of 100 spider riders back in 5th ed WHFB which were empty bases.
For the last few months I've been using a rebel Trooper riding a tauntaun from Star Wars Miniatures as a stand-in for my Necron C'tan. Finally bought the offical model, but I was kinda connected to my brave tauntaun warrior! He killed many a space marine and ork!
Ascalam wrote:3 3-packs of day-glo condoms, stuffed with cotton wool and with the ends snapped around spare 25mm bases, to represent Flamers of Tzeentch...
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I once saw a player with an entire Ork list that he ran as Blood Angels. On the plus side, it was completely heavily converted and had everything fielded properly, it was just odd to see Orks being played as Blood Angels.
In the realm of non-tournament acceptable proxying, I've played with bricks as Land Raiders before, it really makes them more menacing IMO.
My friend (who is only just now getting his army together) has been playing an amalgam of models from different armies, since he hasn't had any models and I have three armies. I think the best one was when he made a unit of scarab swarms using crisis suits, wolf guard terminators, and Ork HQs.
Although probably the strangest one was one we made up on the spot. One buddy of mine was playing an Eldar list with 6 wave serpents, but only had 3. So we let him put two killa kans next to each other to represent the model. Boy, facing got confusing after a while.
Worglock wrote:Old school Proxying rule: "Any painted and based Skeleton is an acceptable proxy for any non-vehicle model."
We called it "Jack Skellington".
Indeed. I have faced Brettonian skeletons, Skaven skeletons, Chaos Marauder skeletons, Goblin skeletons and Empire skeletons. Funny thing is, all from the same player.
As for me, I have used pieces of paper for Mangler Squigs, before the models came out and because I didn't have big enough bases.
I'm newer to the hobby, and I wanted to try out a Screaming Bell for my Skaven, because everyone who talks Skaven lists raves about them. So I found a picture online, made an appropriate sized box in photoshop, pasted in the picture. I even added "DOOM BELL PROXY!" in this cool drippy blood font.
Then I sent it to the printer in the upstairs office (from the Mac in the livingroom) and deleted the file without saving.
I forgot to check the DPI, stupid thing printed out full page instead of 100mmx60mm.
Grimtuff wrote:That would've been a kid using invisible Mycetic Spores. When I told him he had to have a model to represent them as they had a statline, were worth KPs etc. His response: "Well there's no model for them so I don't have to use one until it comes out."
Grimtuff wrote:That would've been a kid using invisible Mycetic Spores. When I told him he had to have a model to represent them as they had a statline, were worth KPs etc. His response: "Well there's no model for them so I don't have to use one until it comes out."
Grimtuff wrote:That would've been a kid using invisible Mycetic Spores. When I told him he had to have a model to represent them as they had a statline, were worth KPs etc. His response: "Well there's no model for them so I don't have to use one until it comes out."
Can't argue with that logic...
I can do one better
Invisible Grave Guard.
Invisible mortis engine.
Win.
Nah, trust me.
Its a hell lot harder to keep up with 20 invisible GG than an invisible Mortis Engine
I once used a hundred or so of these easter chicks as zombies, stuck them to square bases and everything back when I used a full necro VC army about 5-6 years ago, was incredibly awesome. Needless to say eventually I was made to stop but by then I had gathered up enough zombies to use xD
Sasa0mg wrote:I once used a hundred or so of these easter chicks as zombies, stuck them to square bases and everything back when I used a full necro VC army about 5-6 years ago, was incredibly awesome. Needless to say eventually I was made to stop but by then I had gathered up enough zombies to use xD
they dont quite have the BRAIIIINZZZ!!! factor though do they
Sasa0mg wrote:I once used a hundred or so of these easter chicks as zombies, stuck them to square bases and everything back when I used a full necro VC army about 5-6 years ago, was incredibly awesome. Needless to say eventually I was made to stop but by then I had gathered up enough zombies to use xD
they dont quite have the BRAIIIINZZZ!!! factor though do they
Are you kidding? Look at their lifeless eyes. They hunger...
They're definitely not to be messed with really, they never lost a battle for the duration that I had them in place of zombies. Now I miss them, the good old days where they outnumbered won combat res and automatically caused people to flee for there lives and get chased down by a bunch of giant easter chicks.
Ironically I actually got away or allowed to do this proxying in the GW store for a couple of weekends back then.
Looking back at it, its kind of funny albeit Im unsure how I would react to playing stuff like that myself xD all I can say is at least I based them?
my friend wanted to try DE, so he bought the codex and Lillith. Since he didnt ahd any model, he used his SMs as proxies (i had agreed b4 hand, I wanted to see what I could do vs a de army!)
So tac marines were normal warriors (frogot their names), his DCs were wyches, rhinos were skimmer, his LR was the big DE skimmer ( I really forgot all the names), mephiston was an archon, dreadnoughts were talos pain machines etc!
With that I proxied my BigShoota boys for lootas (he could not really argue, lol).
We had plenty of fun, it was just hard remembering the stats of all his proxies (and what the proxies were) but still fun.
i got one:big apocalypse in the passed year. 48k points in a single table...something really really mind blasting to see... well ,what i see there were:
1)something around 20 pieces of foam tray covers (those rectangulars that nearly everyone throw when you buy a bag)with weapons pushed in.i repeat,not glued..Pushed-in. they were a group of ork little dreadnoughts (i dont remember the name)
2)an eldar flying unit of FW (that one with 2 D weapons) made by Legos.
Not really as creative as other people on this thread, but I used my iPhone as both a land raider and a vindicator. Surprisingly the iPhone with the protective case I have Takes up the same area as a rhino
One of my favorites was back before any of us had armies. We wanted to try things out with proxies before we did anything, and so various odds and ends usually wound up becoming armies. Two of them were absolutely great - one of them was me, playing Eldar, and my teammate, playing Necrons, against an army of tanks (using Armored Company rules). IIRC, both me and the Necron player were using d6s for our troops, and tanks wound up being Magic: the Gathering card boxes.
The second one was me, trying Chaos, against Necrons. Same setup as before, with tanks being card boxes and troops essentially being dice. About halfway through the game, we realize something odd - an entire unit of Necron warriors has vanished off the table. There was about a three-second pause, and the Necron player, who was about to roll shooting, just cried out, "I'm rolling them!"
Brother SRM wrote:I played against a guy who tried to pass off a bunch of Yu-Gi-Oh cards taped together in a vague pyramid shape as a Monolith. It was our first game. I also used to run a plastic cup with a stormbolter glued on it and DROP POD written on the side as, you guessed it, a drop pod.
That sir is what we call the East Saint Louis Drop pod!!! Rep. it proud!!!
I let my friend use some fire warriors to sub in as genestealers
I've seen black templars used as Thousand Sons LOL if know know the BT fluff
When I first wanted to play 40K and couldn't afford it I bought a Epic Imperial Gard box and used all the minis there to play games of 40k. Mind you in my defence I painted all of the minis and glued them to cardboard bases of the right size.
And then I got money and bought real figures. The funny thing is tha tI am still randomly finding those little figures in my bitz box to this day.
Played against a guy a couple of years ago (my FLGS really shouldn't have accepted his army to play in 'Ard Boyz) who had Chaos Space Marines as his Ork nobz, an Eldar Viper as a looted wagon and a large piece of foam with bits stuck in it as a battle wagon. The dude cheated too only because I didn't know all of the Ork rules. I haven't seen him at my FLGS since, so maybe he's been banned.
