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February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 11:19:30


Post by: Kroothawk


First mentioned by BramGaunt over at Warseer and turned out true. Pics below.
BramGaunt wrote:Time to get a little more specific.

LotR get's a relaunch this febuary (4th of feb to be precise).

Release includes 5 books (40k codex size and price, sadly no hardcover) that cover ALL armies. All existing books will be removed and are no longer for sale, except for the rulebook itself and the three campaign books for the three movies.

Following books will be released: Realms of Men (Arnor, Gondor, Rohan), Forces of Mordor (Mordor, Isengart, Moria/Misty Mountains Goblins), Free folk of Middle-Earth (Elves and Dwarfs I assumed), Fallen Realms (Harad and Easterlings) and one that sums up the rest.

The Books will contain updated rules for ALL LotR Miniatures and nullify the entries in the big Rulebook. The rulebook is not replaced, but each of the five new themed books contains several pages of updated rules. WotR will mostly vanish from stores and be a better supported specialist game. There will be releases for WotR, but the LotR tabletop stays the third of the three big GW games.

Expect your armies to change drastically.

The release is accompanied by one (1) new plastic box set (some kind of cavallery) and a whole bunch of finecast miniatures. Some old friends, like the WotR command boxes, and some genuine new sculpts.

There is nothing else happening in febuary, at least that's what I've been told. First pure LotR month for some time now. Expect pictures any day now, the new WD will feature a LOT of LotR.

(...)

Just to be clear about it: There is a planed 40k event in late febuary, but I was told that there was no actual release associated with it. Therefor I assumed that the Tyranid-wave will be first saturday of march. Same day as the 40k event is the release of the 25 years of Warhammer 40k White Dwarf, and it would be the day preorders started. Now, a world-wide 40k happening with staffers going nuts over Tyranid and Necron Preorders sounds exactly like something GW would do.

Also, I'd be more than happy to be wrong about the "nothing but LotR in feb" part, but I think LotR players deserve a month of their own =)

Since White Dwarfs should be on their ways right now I expect pictures to show up soon, anyway.

(...)

Again, I am not dead certain that there is nothing 40k related in feb, but my sources have been very specific. These ones have been accurate so far, I just pass on the information. Again, we will see in a couple of days. (Or, with the current WD leaks, more likely in the next 24 hours.)


Turned out true. Here some first pics from the February release (my free translation):

In addition to some Finecast recasts, some reboxing (one sprue boxes instead of many 2 sprue boxes), 4 command boxes that look like Finecast recasts, these are the new products:

The Guardian in the Lake (56€, Finecast, 4th February, 7"long and 4" high):


Great Gorgoth Beast (56€, Finecast, 4th February, Mordor, carrying 10 Orcs):

At least they have some potential for non-LOTR conversion, even if Finecast makes it difficult.

Horror from the Deep (32.50 €, Finecast, alternative head, sculpted base):


Easterlings Cataphracts (29.00 €, Plastic, includes 2 casualties):


Easterling Dragon Knight (18.25 €, Finecast):


Easterling War Priest (18.25 €, Finecast, an unmounted version will also be released this month, no pic):


Easterling Lord of Blades Amdur (26 €, Finecast):


Casualties (23.50 €, Finecast):


Groblog, King of the Deep (Goblin, 12.50 €, Finecast):


Ashrak Spiderblood (Goblin, 10.50 €, Finecast):


Warg-Lootriders (Goblins, 19.50 €, Finecast):


The 5 sourcebooks (Human Kingdoms, Free People, Fallen Realms, Mordor, Moria&Angmar) are 48 pages and 19.50 € each.

Here official names and US/Canadian prices for the LoTR Products released 4th February:

LoTR: Realms of Men (English) 48pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75
LoTR: The Free Peoples (English) 64pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75
LoTR: Mordor (English) 48pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75
LoTR: The Fallen Realms (English) 48pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75
LoTR: Moria & Angmar (English) 48pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75

Easterling Kataphrakts 6 Fig Plastic Box $36.25 $43.50
Amdûr, Lord of Blades 2 Fig Finecast Clampack $33.00 $39.50
Easterling Dragon Knight 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $23.00 $27.50
Easterling War Priest 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $23.00 $27.50
Lord of The Rings Casualties 8 Fig Finecast Box $29.75 $35.75
The Watcher in the Water 1 Fig Finecast Box $71.00 $85.25
Warg Marauder 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $24.75 $29.75
Dweller in the Dark 1 Fig Finecast Box $41.25 $49.50
Grôblog, King of the Deeps 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $15.25 $19.00
Ashrâk, the Spiderkin 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $13.25 $16.00
Great Beast of Gorgoroth 1 Fig Finecast Box $71.00 $85.25
Gondor Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Rohan Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Galadhrim Elf Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Dwarf Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50

RE-PACKAGED PRODUCTS

Wild Wargs 6 Fig Plastic Box $16.50 $19.75
Warriors of Minas Tirith 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Rangers of Middle-earth 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Warriors of the Dead 10 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Warriors of Rohan 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Galadhrim Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Wood Elf Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Warriors of the Last Alliance 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Dwarf Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Dwarf Rangers 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Mordor Orcs 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Morannon Orcs 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Uruk-hai Warriors 10 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Uruk-hai Scouts 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Moria Goblin Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Haradrim Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Corsairs of Umbar 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Easterling Warriors 10 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Khamûl The Easterling (Ringwraith) 2 Fig Finecast Clampack $33.00 $39.50
Easterling Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Mordor Orc Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Morannon Orc Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Isengard Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Moria Goblin Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $33.00 $39.50
Haradrim Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Mordor Orc Shaman 1 Fig Finecast Clampack - $15.25 $19.00


Here some more pics posted by Dezartfox over at One Ring:



















Also soothing words by Harry:
There will be no impact on 40K or Warhammer Fantasy releases.
They have taken on additional sculptors and Games developers to ensure they have the capacity to do this without affecting the schedule for either 40K or fantasy.




February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 11:22:51


Post by: Cerebrium


Yay, an entire month dedicated to the worst system GW have ever made.

It was bound to happen anyway, with the Hobbit coming soon.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 11:35:10


Post by: StraightSilver


I'm not saying this isn't true, or even unlikely, however the current White Dwarf (Vampire Counts) does state that the next WD (out Sat 28th Jan) will have details of the 25th anniversary, as well as WD events and in store events.

They started 40k 25th Anniversary celebrations at Warhammer World yesterday, and on the Warhammer World FB page have started the countdown, so I believe the celebrations will be early Feb rather than March.

However I am sure that when I bought Rogue Trader on it's day of release it was in June / July at games day (then at Royal Horticultural Halls London) so not quite sure why they're starting in February?

It was also announced at Games day during the seminars that 2012 would be the year of 40k, although of course LOTR will get hyped as well as the Hobbit is out Q4 2012, but I would have expected the big push for this to be Q4 2012/Q1 2013.

I don't doubt there will be stuff for LOTR in Feb, but would be very surprised if there wasn't stuff for 40K too.

I'm pretty sure at the least there will be a Necron wave.



February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 11:49:07


Post by: Korraz


Cerebrium wrote:Yay, an entire month dedicated to the worst system GW have ever made.

It was bound to happen anyway, with the Hobbit coming soon.


Rules-Wise it's a more sound system than 40k and Fantasy combined, and WotR outshines both by far.

Sadly, it'll be a wasted month. It'll get dropped anyway, as soon as the Ring-Craze is finally over. Haven't seen a game played in three years, and I doubt that this will revitalize it. Any real LotR players have long moved on to greener pastures.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 12:40:14


Post by: Herr Dexter


That would be a disaster. I MUST HAVE missing models asap - need them for FLGS tournament play :]
On the side note, LoTR might have good mechanics but it lacks the certain... "oomph" the other systems have and for me it's simply "too much LOTR" everywhere :/


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 12:57:45


Post by: Pacific


Shame that the focus is going on LoTR, rather than WoTR which I think is a much better system.

Magazine re-branded 'White Hobbit' again then next month?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 12:58:08


Post by: Medium of Death


No White Dwarf leak yet?

Printing Workers, I am disappoint.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 13:27:59


Post by: Killian


I call shenanigans!

Staff at the Bowie Bunker has been told to make room for a big 40k event and the White Dwarf specifically mentions next month (Feb) as the 25th Anniversary month of 40k. Why in the world would they do a big LOTR release with no 40k releases during the 25th Anniversary month of 40K?

The manager at the Bunker did mention he could see them dropping the 6th ED Rule Book next month but there has been little to no rumors supporting that. He mostly gets the feeling that its gonna be Nid and Necron second waves and maybe a small IG release.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 13:49:38


Post by: Kazwulf


Kroothawk wrote:This rumour conflicts with the rumours about 2nd wave Tyranids/Necrons in February and might turn out false with this weeks WD release. But as the source is BramGaunt over at Warseer, I don't want to ignore it:
BramGaunt wrote: Just to be clear about it: There is a planed 40k event in late febuary, but I was told that there was no actual release associated with it. Therefor I assumed that the Tyranid-wave will be first saturday of march. Same day as the 40k event is the release of the 25 years of Warhammer 40k White Dwarf, and it would be the day preorders started. Now, a world-wide 40k happening with staffers going nuts over Tyranid and Necron Preorders sounds exactly like something GW would do.

Since White Dwarfs should be on their ways right now I expect pictures to show up soon, anyway.

Again, I am not dead certain that there is nothing 40k related in feb, but my sources have been very specific. These ones have been accurate so far, I just pass on the information. Again, we will see in a couple of days. (Or, with the current WD leaks, more likely in the next 24 hours.)


To summarize the information Kroothawk included for things people here actually care about ...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 14:01:13


Post by: chizal


just been told by a friend at the company who has his new WD, its all about LOTR this month, only new 40k info is the 25th anniversary model


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 14:36:23


Post by: Flachzange


Not a fan of the system myself, but theres obviously quite enough people enjoying it to warrant a new release like that.
Its still being played though! Several times a month at least ...

I also heard about the new release from some people here and there- I dont think that these rumors are that far off.

Better not conflict with those Necron rumors though!


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chizal wrote:just been told by a friend at the company who has his new WD, its all about LOTR this month, only new 40k info is the 25th anniversary model


ugh


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 14:57:29


Post by: Breotan


Kroothawk wrote:
BramGaunt wrote:...and be a better supported specialist game
What the hell does that mean?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 15:04:50


Post by: Anpu-adom


I hope it isn't true that we won't be getting Wraiths/Spyders in Feb.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 15:13:17


Post by: Killian


I'm totally ready to buy tons of Necron 2nd Wave and will be sorely disappointed if they don't drop!


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 15:26:53


Post by: Prodigalson


Ouch... really? So we haven't had any 40K since November?

Yet another month where I am glad that I don't have a WD subscription.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 15:29:36


Post by: catharsix


Wow, just wow. GW manages to find an entirely NEW way to totally anger its fan base, ignoring the poor Nids players who have been waiting FOREVER and thought they might FINALLY get some basics from their codex, AND the tons of people who happily jumped on the Necron bandwagon just a couple months ago.

Do they actually $$~PAY~$$ someone at GW to think up new ways to make us furiously angry, or what?!


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 15:32:26


Post by: puma713


Kroothawk wrote:
BramGaunt wrote:
Also, I'd be more than happy to be wrong about the "nothing but LotR in feb" part, but I think LotR players deserve a month of their own =)


There are LotR players?





February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 15:34:20


Post by: MajorTom11


I'll be pissed if there is only LOTR... 25th anniversary of 40k! Featuring LOTR!

*grumble*


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 15:34:22


Post by: zedmeister


Breotan wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
BramGaunt wrote:...and be a better supported specialist game
What the hell does that mean?


Welcome to oubliette of games? Probably means that it'll be shoved under the specialist games banner, were the finer but more forgotten games resides. Better supported probably means that you will actually have the occasional release and the molds will be looked after and retooled instead of languishing with no support and deteriorating molds (a-la Epic, Mordheim, Warmaster, BFG, etc). Seriously, some of the current molds of the minis are appalling - badly torn and damaged molds are still being used.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 15:38:56


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


Hasn't the LotR horse been dead for 8 years or so?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 15:55:49


Post by: Corsair Princess


I really hope this isn't true, I've been looking forward to possible release (nids) that I'd actually be hyped about, the last release for my armies was...either the new Fire Prism or the plastic Daemon Prince daemon wave.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 16:12:44


Post by: cpt_fishcakes


Excellent news GWs best system may be getting some love again. Its been what 2 years since anything new was released?

With the Hobbit coming out this year the LOTR SBG is already making a resurgence round my way. There is evidently still a lot of players out there.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 16:20:24


Post by: whoadirty


As a Tyranid player I am hoping for some loving for the army, but at this point I just want to know for sure what is coming out next month. With all the rumours out there, my anticipation is off the charts. :(


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 16:31:46


Post by: mikhaila


As someone trying to run a store that heavily supports GW, I find their Dis-information policy to make my life a living Hell.

-I've got no idea how to support their new releases, so I don't. I just plan my events two-three months out (like they taught me to, years ago.)

-New releases hit, and with no push behind them, have a slow sell through, no big rush of excited gamers coming in, since they don't know about the new models.

- LOTR month? Old books are dogfood? WOTR goes away? I see new releases rotting on the shelves along with old redundant product. It's pretty dead right now, with just plastic models and a few fc blisters. I have no idea how I'd gain interest in the game right now. I'll order light and it can fester in it's corner until the hobbit comes out. Who wants to buy a rulebook that is mostly superceded by info in other books?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 16:32:44


Post by: Kroothawk


There is the slight chance that another rumour is true and that the anniversary 40k model will be a GBP200+ plastic Thunderhawk, so 40k fans would have enough to drool about:
Kroothawk wrote:Here a rumour by an untested rumour poster over at Warseer:
Danteng7 wrote:here's what i have:

-Its a Thunderhawk.
-Release in Mid Feb.
-Limited Edition (1500-3000 available worldwide). Similar distribution pattern as space hulk/dreadfleet
-Price - GBP200-300.

take it with lotsa salt people. but thats what i have.

We will see in a week when the White Dwarf is released.

Please keep the discussion of this Thunderhawk rumour to the other thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/150/418612.page


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 16:38:06


Post by: Howard A Treesong


Limiting the Thunderhawk to 1500-3000 total would be an extraordinarily stupid thing to do IMO.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 16:48:55


Post by: Kroothawk


You mean, like making Space Hulk limited?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 16:50:25


Post by: chizal


The 25th anniversary model is a marine, enjoy


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 16:53:12


Post by: chaos0xomega


Also the fact that at that price its hardly worth it, not being much cheaper than the FW version...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 16:58:00


Post by: Howard A Treesong


Kroothawk wrote:You mean, like making Space Hulk limited?


Well that was a stand-alone game limited to an extent by the cardboard print run. A plastic kit they can churn out as many as they want and it will be usable by every marine player on tables everywhere. And marines sell better than everything else. So to choke off the supply of a model that everyone has been waiting years for just doesn't make sense.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 17:02:43


Post by: Death By Monkeys


This is the punishment 40k players get for the leaked rulebook.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 17:13:19


Post by: chaos0xomega


The idea of a limited edition plastic kit, especially of the size of a Thunderhawk, is pretty nonsensical to begin with. Thats an investments of ten to hundreds of thousands of dollars, they aren't going to take the time to manufacture something that expensive if they cant maximize their returned profits. A steel mold has a lifetime of tens of thousands of pulls, if not more, curtailing production after 1-3k would be a mistake, especially since GW knows it could sell TONS of the kit....


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 17:21:53


Post by: Howard A Treesong


It is only a rumour though, we don't even know they are making it. I would have thought they would milk this release for every penny.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 20:13:45


Post by: Herr Dexter


Well, we're screwed :/ Another month wasted...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 20:36:37


Post by: Breotan


Howard A Treesong wrote:It is only a rumour though...
Not any more, it isn't.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/425525.page


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 20:37:10


Post by: pretre


Breotan wrote:
Howard A Treesong wrote:It is only a rumour though, we don't even know they are making it. I would have thought they would milk this release for every penny.
Not any more, it isn't.

Where is the Thunderhawk confirmed?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 20:40:03


Post by: Breotan


Sorry. Didn't see that the topic derailed there at the end of the previous page. I just assumed that we were all still talking about Lord of the Rings in a Lord of the Rings rumor thread. How silly of me.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 20:40:31


Post by: Platuan4th


pretre wrote:
Breotan wrote:
Howard A Treesong wrote:It is only a rumour though, we don't even know they are making it. I would have thought they would milk this release for every penny.
Not any more, it isn't.

Where is the Thunderhawk confirmed?


I think Breotan is confused and believes that Howard's first statement was about Feb being a LOTR month, as opposed to what he was ACTUALLY referring to(the Thunderhawk rumor).


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 20:42:24


Post by: pretre


Breotan wrote: I just assumed that we were all still talking about Lord of the Rings in a Lord of the Rings rumor thread.

Quite. When does anyone ever stay on topic around here?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 21:25:10


Post by: silent25


Cerebrium wrote:Yay, an entire month dedicated to the worst system GW have ever made.

It was bound to happen anyway, with the Hobbit coming soon.


Hey February is when the movie studios dump all their failed movies. Why not for game companies?


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Howard A Treesong wrote:Limiting the Thunderhawk to 1500-3000 total would be an extraordinarily stupid thing to do IMO.


3000 might have been the production run for the Baneblades and other large plastic Apoc vehicles? They could just be doing a standard production run with a "Limited" label attached to justify the extra $100 they will be charging for the kit.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 21:33:23


Post by: Riker210


Tau?! tau :(...ok ill drop it.

I just hope nids get some M-spores on 2nd wave. The upside is, after the LotR stuff gets released, we wont be interrupted for releases until December (hobbit season)


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 21:43:58


Post by: Mitsarugii


febuary is LOTR month

marine holding orc head is the limited edition model ( NOT A THUNDERHAWK as you can clearly see so drop it )

as an added bonus to febuary tho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-1RPDqJAY


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/24 21:55:40


Post by: Ehsteve


Do people forget that this time is also around the 25th anniversary of Citadel's first LotR release? Though they later lost the licence they did produce a few boxed sets and a dozen or so blisters.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 14:36:44


Post by: Kroothawk


Here some first pics from the February release (my free translation):

In addition to some Finecast recasts, some reboxing (one sprue boxes instead of many 2 sprue boxes), 4 command boxes that look like Finecast recasts, these are the new products:

The Guardian in the Lake (56€, Finecast, 4th February, 7"long and 4" high):


Great Gorgoth Beast (56€, Finecast, 4th February, Mordor, carrying 10 Orcs):

At least they have some potential for non-LOTR conversion, even if Finecast makes it difficult.

Horror from the Deep (32.50 €, Finecast, alternative head, sculpted base):


Easterlings Cataphracts (29.00 €, Plastic, includes 2 casualties):


Easterling Dragon Knight (18.25 €, Finecast):


Easterling War Priest (18.25 €, Finecast, an unmounted version will also be released this month, no pic):


Easterling Lord of Blades Amdur (26 €, Finecast):


Casualties (23.50 €, Finecast):


Groblog, King of the Deep (Goblin, 12.50 €, Finecast):


Ashrak Spiderblood (Goblin, 10.50 €, Finecast):


Warg-Lootriders (Goblins, 19.50 €, Finecast):


The 5 sourcebooks (Human Kingdoms, Free People, Fallen Realms, Mordor, Moria&Angmar) are 48 pages and 19.50 € each.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 14:57:22


Post by: Bloodwin


Such a shame. I dont like either model but I did enjoy the LotR games when they came out. I hope that Forge World can take the idea of that orc beast thing and do a fantasy squiggoth version.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 15:05:25


Post by: Altruizine


Kroothawk wrote:
The Guardian in the Lake (56€, Finecast, 4th February, 7"long and 4" high):


.

Nice. I guess they did release a Tervigon, after all.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 15:31:31


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Limited Edition Thunderhawk? Why would you make a clear best seller limited edition? Why would you machine the moulds for a kit that would have as many sprues as the Stompa (no doubt) and then not keep it on sale?

Howard A Treesong wrote:Limiting the Thunderhawk to 1500-3000 total would be an extraordinarily stupid thing to do IMO.


So, in other words, exactly the kind of brain-dead short-term-profit-over-long-term-growth bs that GW always does.


And is that what the full Watcher in LOTR was meant to look like? It had insect legs under the water?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 15:43:25


Post by: Herr Dexter


It looks like a tree stump, mixed with flotsam and finished with tentacles. More like something we would see in tentacle hentai :/
Oh, well - at lease Nurgle lovers will have a nice conversion - if this isn't material for Beast of Nurgle, I don't know what is...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 15:47:57


Post by: menziez


The Guardian in the Lake (56€, Finecast, 4th February, 7"long and 4" high):


Looks like a freeking prawn!


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 15:51:38


Post by: Agamemnon2


Both the remaining LOTR players in the world cheered.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 15:54:49


Post by: cpt_fishcakes


Gaaa I really like the pair of them, so much money going to disappear from my future.

I like the anatomy of the lake beast/mini-watcher, sort of crayfish meets octopus.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 16:09:31


Post by: blood reaper


The Easterlings Kataphracts look excellent, when will GW put this stuff up for order? I imagine the price will be high.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 16:11:57


Post by: Kroothawk


All LOTR stuff released 4th February, so preorder end of this week.

BTW, may I present the arch enemy of the Guardian in the Lake: Suzi by Hasslefree


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 16:31:59


Post by: Wehrkind


Man, really digging the Guardian, Horror and the Kataphracts. I might well make my first serious LotR purchase if I see them. Not for use in that game, but just as general sweet models.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 16:40:40


Post by: I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly


Don't play LOTR, would have preferred 40k releases, but those cataphracts could be the basis for terrific historical cavalry models.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 16:43:55


Post by: blood reaper


I'm no fan of the mounted Warpriest and Dragon knight, which would be cheap and easy to convert, the Great Beast really doesn't look like a good model for Finecast and should have been made into a plastic kit.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 16:48:00


Post by: Philld77


Kroothawk wrote:All LOTR stuff released 4th February, so preorder end of this week.

BTW, may I present the arch enemy of the Guardian in the Lake: Suzi by Hasslefree


Nice cheek structure..... Her butts not bad too!


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 16:55:31


Post by: protomane0


when i heard that it was a lotr month i wasn't very excited at all.... don't mind the strategy battlegame but would have preffered new crons.... however i have a small (for goblins) moria goblin force and those goblin units look nice =) lets see what february brings us (still wanted more crons though =()


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 17:14:57


Post by: TBD


Since when did the Guardian (this is supposed to be the thing in the water @ Moria, right?) become some sort of bug??

Does GW have the liberty to just make up stuff or is there previous art indicating it should look like this?

And even though I am not sure what all of it cost before those prices for the finecast LOTR seem to have gotten rediculous even for GW's standard. Almost 20,- euro for one smallish detail-lacking horseman, daamn.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 17:23:29


Post by: bloodaxegit


The guardian in the lake: Not a bad sculpt, but nothing clambers out of the water that isn't meant to on my watch! Back to the depths, devil!!


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 17:27:25


Post by: cpt_fishcakes


TBD wrote:Since when did the Guardian (this is supposed to be the thing in the water @ Moria, right?) become some sort of bug??



The thing in the film is "the watcher in the water" a different beast.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 17:32:36


Post by: scarletsquig


The Horror from the Deep and the Easterling Cav look great, the rest is kinda average.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 17:37:01


Post by: TBD


cpt_fishcakes wrote:
TBD wrote:Since when did the Guardian (this is supposed to be the thing in the water @ Moria, right?) become some sort of bug??



The thing in the film is "the watcher in the water" a different beast.


Okay, it is a relief that they are not intending it to be the same thing. I wouldn't want Tolkien to have to roll over a dozen time in his grave because GW is butchering his creations.

Not sure what story this Guardian comes from then though.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 17:42:41


Post by: cpt_fishcakes


I guess its a beast inspired by the watcher, some sort of distant inbred relative

I really like the model, can see myself building a goblin force centered around it. With the goblins worshiping it as some kind of shrimp/squid deity.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 17:43:34


Post by: Orphic


TBD wrote:
cpt_fishcakes wrote:
TBD wrote:Since when did the Guardian (this is supposed to be the thing in the water @ Moria, right?) become some sort of bug??



The thing in the film is "the watcher in the water" a different beast.


Okay, it is a relief that they are not intending it to be the same thing. I wouldn't want Tolkien to have to roll over a dozen time in his grave because GW is butchering his creations.

Not sure what story this Guardian comes from then though.


Doubt Tolkien would mind seeing as how all he said about it can be summed up with 'Tentacles'. He never specified what it was and Frodo/Gandalf weren't even sure it was the one creature. The kraken-y thing is PJs creation


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 17:44:38


Post by: Saphos


I like the Lotr stuff, especially the Easterlings, a lot and the Kataphrakts will make me finish my Easterling army for the SBG. So I am not disappointed at all although I can understand the gripe of the Tyranid players. And the 25 yr celebratory issue with mostly Lotr is indeed a headsratcher. ^^


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 17:56:42


Post by: Death By Monkeys


Saphos wrote:I like the Lotr stuff, especially the Easterlings, a lot and the Kataphrakts will make me finish my Easterling army for the SBG. So I am not disappointed at all although I can understand the gripe of the Tyranid players. And the 25 yr celebratory issue with mostly Lotr is indeed a headsratcher. ^^

Well, maybe they're trying to flush out all the LotR stuff to clear the calendar so that the next year can be "ALL 40K ALL THE TIME!"


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 18:12:39


Post by: Saphos


Well, as little Lotr as we had in the last two years this might be the case.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 18:16:48


Post by: Johnny-Crass


I love these new models. And I dont think love does it justice!


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 18:34:37


Post by: BramGaunt


The rising number of heroes is due to the fact that you will need one hero per 12 Warriors, forming little "Warbands".

You read it here first


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 18:45:05


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


Still like the Easterling stuff, but unless one of the boys turns around and says 'daddy I want Lotr figures' not going to get back into it again.


Why is there a little part of me thats wants that conversation.. damn it, back to self flagellation chamber.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 18:48:33


Post by: Mantle


The guardian and the demon thing just show how little imagination GW plans on putting in to the LOTR range, it doesn't effect me much because I stopped playing years ago but still....


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 18:48:38


Post by: Henners91


So people still play this 'Lord of the Rings' thing?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 19:01:04


Post by: chaos0xomega


Guardian - Its an oddly shaped insectile creature with tentacles...

Terror from the Deep - Its a mini balrog?

Are they making stuff up now? Are they allowed to make stuff up?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 19:09:27


Post by: Johnny-Crass


I think I remeber Terror from the Simarilion (spelled wrong)


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 19:10:22


Post by: Kanluwen


I think it's from "Children of Hurin" but am not sure.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 19:24:05


Post by: brassangel


Korraz wrote:
Cerebrium wrote:Yay, an entire month dedicated to the worst system GW have ever made.

It was bound to happen anyway, with the Hobbit coming soon.


Rules-Wise it's a more sound system than 40k and Fantasy combined, and WotR outshines both by far.

Sadly, it'll be a wasted month. It'll get dropped anyway, as soon as the Ring-Craze is finally over. Haven't seen a game played in three years, and I doubt that this will revitalize it. Any real LotR players have long moved on to greener pastures.


People keep saying this, yet most FLGS owners can't justify carrying the game for more than 6-9 months, because nobody enjoys or buys into the system. Regardless of promotion, shelf space, etc., it just doesn't sell beyond the "bubbles" associated with the film release.

It's a waste when the most prevalent game in the industry still has so many necessary releases.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 19:32:45


Post by: automatonsleuth


I really do like the Guardian in the Lake, though perhaps not enought to spend £44 on it (I'm assuming it'll be the same price band as the dragon). Still, I think it's a great interpretation of the whole "Watcher in the Water" family, one I actually find more credible than an octopus/kraken. Is the Terror from the Children of Hurin? I thought CoH was mostly elven politics, a handful of orcs, a lot of tragedy and an appearance by Glaurung at the end? I can't find any other reference to it anywhere. It is entirely possible GW just invented it to fill a gap in the "monsters" market, like they did Gulavhar or the Cave Drake...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 19:38:14


Post by: Kroothawk


Keep in mind that the names are my personal retranslations from German. Someone please post the original English names.
So the Guardian/Watcher is indeed the tentacle thing West of Moria. It has legs now because it can deepstrike and move on the whole battlefield, not just lakes.

BTW for all LOTR haters. In Germany, GW gave a licence to Agostini Publishing to do a LOTR magazine with one sprue per issue and some tidbits on rules, painting etc as content. Agostini made TV ads and professional marketing, being present at most newsagents. Was a huge hit and brought lots of new gamers into tabletop gaming and GW stores. Then it got cancelled, but stores still see kids starting the hobby inspired by the mags some friend gave them. That's why LOTR sold more and longer in Germany than in most other countries. It was something like the Space Hulk of this century here. Naturally, GW has no intention to do this again


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 19:51:19


Post by: chaos0xomega


I like the original kraken concept better... I might have been sold on this concept if they had done a better job of it, it looks to chimeric for my tastes.

And I think the Terror might be a reference to the creatures that Gandalf referenced fighting after he fell into the depths of middle earth with the balrog


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 20:19:35


Post by: scarletsquig


Kroothawk wrote:Keep in mind that the names are my personal retranslations from German. Someone please post the original English names.
So the Guardian/Watcher is indeed the tentacle thing West of Moria. It has legs now because it can deepstrike and move on the whole battlefield, not just lakes.

BTW for all LOTR haters. In Germany, GW gave a licence to Agostini Publishing to do a LOTR magazine with one sprue per issue and some tidbits on rules, painting etc as content. Agostini made TV ads and professional marketing, being present at most newsagents. Was a huge hit and brought lots of new gamers into tabletop gaming and GW stores. Then it got cancelled, but stores still see kids starting the hobby inspired by the mags some friend gave them. That's why LOTR sold more and longer in Germany than in most other countries. It was something like the Space Hulk of this century here. Naturally, GW has no intention to do this again


We had the DeAgostini magazines in the UK too (with tv ads, etc.), they were really popular, and also nice and affordable since it was £4 for each issue which came with either a sprue of 12 models or a metal character.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 20:22:33


Post by: Johnny-Crass


They used to have advertisements in the back of the LOTR video games back in the day


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 20:36:02


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


scarletsquig wrote:
We had the DeAgostini magazines in the UK too (with tv ads, etc.), they were really popular, and also nice and affordable since it was £4 for each issue which came with either a sprue of 12 models or a metal character.


Aye, thats how I got into Lotr last time. Collected that mag to around issue 40ish I think.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 20:54:07


Post by: Kroothawk


scarletsquig wrote:We had the DeAgostini magazines in the UK too (with tv ads, etc.), they were really popular, and also nice and affordable since it was £4 for each issue which came with either a sprue of 12 models or a metal character.

Maybe GW thinks of rereleasing them for £20 per issue


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 21:15:50


Post by: Rabtorian


Can I just say that the Uruk-hai casualty looks like he is skipping and feeling pretty?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 21:35:35


Post by: arkapello


I dont think LOTR is quite up to the standard of the other things GW make presently. They used to be better but this lot is well behind the curve.

I really want to like them but... they aren't really interesting. Maybe the character models will bump it up a notch at movie-release time.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 22:09:08


Post by: brettz123


I love the SBG but I feel bad for anyone who still buys white dwarf that all you are getting is LOTR. White Dwarf should never have just one gaming system in it.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 22:14:01


Post by: Flashman


None of it interests me, not even in the sense of admiring the models, most of which are very sub par. Please tell me this isn't the work of the Perrys, because if so, they're slipping.

In fact, this whole release is awarded my second of the year (after the VC Coven Throne/Mortis Engine). Of GWs 2012 releases so far, only the Black Knigts have been excellent.

EDIT - Just saw the Perry's name next to the minis


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 22:16:47


Post by: Lorizael


brettz123 wrote:I love the SBG but I feel bad for anyone who still buys white dwarf that all you are getting is LOTR. White Dwarf should never have just one gaming system in it.


So has anyone actually seen this issue of White Dwarf yet?
As I look through my copy I can see several articles for Warhammer and 40K as well as a 40 page 40K 25th anniversary section...

Also the next issue of WD is released on 25/2. The same date as the 25th anniversary celebration...

Always so much fuss made without knowing facts...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 22:26:51


Post by: Korraz


It's nice, but the prices are completely bonkers.
Or, in two words: Games Workshop.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 22:45:45


Post by: TBD


Kroothawk wrote:Keep in mind that the names are my personal retranslations from German. Someone please post the original English names.
So the Guardian/Watcher is indeed the tentacle thing West of Moria. It has legs now because it can deepstrike and move on the whole battlefield, not just lakes.


Well that is just horrible then

Poor J.R.R. and GW.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 22:51:14


Post by: alphaomega


The plastic Easterling Cavalry have my attention, I have been putting off a Harad/Easterling army as I wanted the Heavy Cavalry in plastic

Not a bad release some of us do enjoy the LotR games. More so that 40K or Fantasy. And it is nice to see some life brought back in

And there are plenty of books in the umbrella, which some of the creatures and races do show up in.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 22:51:32


Post by: Davor


Cerebrium wrote:Yay, an entire month dedicated to the worst system GW have ever made.

It was bound to happen anyway, with the Hobbit coming soon.


Oh it's so much better than 40K. Never played Fantasy so can't really say about that. So if LotR is the worst system, I would hate to see what you really think of 40K.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 22:56:45


Post by: TBD


chaos0xomega wrote:Terror from the Deep - Its a mini balrog?

Are they making stuff up now? Are they allowed to make stuff up?


It's Balrog's anorexic cousin.



February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 23:11:50


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


Why all the hate for LotR?


and all you saying no one plays it are sorely wrong, I know of several people who play it down here.

and either way, most people buy the models to PAINT not PLAY... jeez...

and they'll probably make these models available to use in WotR, through WD official rules


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 23:15:06


Post by: SlaveToDorkness




"Goblin man, Goblin man,
Does whatever a Goblin can,
Take a look overhead,
and there, you'll find the Goblin Maaaaan!"


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 23:19:56


Post by: Johnny-Crass


I still do not get why a goblin king has a chaos dwarf hat


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 23:21:49


Post by: Mad4Minis


chaos0xomega wrote:The idea of a limited edition plastic kit, especially of the size of a Thunderhawk, is pretty nonsensical to begin with. Thats an investments of ten to hundreds of thousands of dollars, they aren't going to take the time to manufacture something that expensive if they cant maximize their returned profits. A steel mold has a lifetime of tens of thousands of pulls, if not more, curtailing production after 1-3k would be a mistake, especially since GW knows it could sell TONS of the kit....


While this would be true ( I work in injection molding, am well aware of mold costs) GW has done it before with Space Hulk and Dread Fleet. My guess would be those games, along with any "limited" flyer, would be set for re-release at a later date. I would not be shocked at all to see the Plastic minis from both of those games marketed as something else later on. IE: a BA Terminator Veteran Squad. The same would likely be true for a Thunderhawk or other large flyer. Limited this year...full availability a year or two later, due to "popular demand".

As a fun note...we have a mold at work that pulls production runs of up to 500,000 parts per order, repeated every few months.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 23:23:58


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


I'd be flabergasted to see Dreadfleet models re-released. Considering it's just sitting on the shelf (or clearance) at most places.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 23:24:17


Post by: alphaomega


Johnny-Crass wrote:I still do not get why a goblin king has a chaos dwarf hat


I am guessing Goblin King of Moria so likely that he is a rerelease of an old character to be more Epic. That and the goblins looted a lot of dead Dwarves in the long Moria war.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/25 23:36:07


Post by: RiTides


Hmmm... not sure about some of these models. A shame they're finecast, too :-/



February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/26 00:04:57


Post by: Experiment 626


Davor wrote:
Cerebrium wrote:Yay, an entire month dedicated to the worst system GW have ever made.

It was bound to happen anyway, with the Hobbit coming soon.


Oh it's so much better than 40K. Never played Fantasy so can't really say about that. So if LotR is the worst system, I would hate to see what you really think of 40K.


QFT my friend.

The best parts of 8th edition fantasy were all pioneered by WotR, and the SBG rules are so much cleaner than the current mess that's 40k.

Out of both SBG/WotR rules system, the one and only complain I have is how combat victory is determined in SBG. It is simply skewed far too much towards whoever has the higer fight value and thus leaves lower Fight Value armies relying too much on luck.
I'd like to see a system similar to WotR come into play - whereby the higher FV gives you bonus dice, but let both sides have an equal chance to try and strike blows.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 17:33:47


Post by: blood reaper


It seems GW hasn't put up the Advanced orders for the LOTR range yet, which is annoying. Hopefully it will happen soon.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 17:55:25


Post by: Flashman


blood reaper wrote:It seems GW hasn't put up the Advanced orders for the LOTR range yet, which is annoying. Hopefully it will happen soon.


On recent form, it will be midnight tonight


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 18:07:19


Post by: blood reaper


Flashman wrote:
blood reaper wrote:It seems GW hasn't put up the Advanced orders for the LOTR range yet, which is annoying. Hopefully it will happen soon.


On recent form, it will be midnight tonight


Hopefully, I want that Fallen Realms book badly.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 19:23:52


Post by: eorltheyoung


Cerebrium wrote:Yay, an entire month dedicated to the worst system GW have ever made.

It was bound to happen anyway, with the Hobbit coming soon.


This.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 19:43:01


Post by: Davor


Was going to restart LotR before I even knew about the updates, but sadly when I went online to see what the prices where, WOW, they went up for so little now.

Looks like GW is pricing me out of "their" hobby now. Such a shame, I wanted to make a huge goblin army. :(


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 20:58:31


Post by: Kroothawk


Here official names and US/Canadian prices for the LoTR Products released 4th February:

LoTR: Realms of Men (English) 48pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75
LoTR: The Free Peoples (English) 64pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75
LoTR: Mordor (English) 48pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75
LoTR: The Fallen Realms (English) 48pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75
LoTR: Moria & Angmar (English) 48pp Army Book $24.75 $29.75

Easterling Kataphrakts 6 Fig Plastic Box $36.25 $43.50
Amdûr, Lord of Blades 2 Fig Finecast Clampack $33.00 $39.50
Easterling Dragon Knight 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $23.00 $27.50
Easterling War Priest 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $23.00 $27.50
Lord of The Rings Casualties 8 Fig Finecast Box $29.75 $35.75
The Watcher in the Water 1 Fig Finecast Box $71.00 $85.25
Warg Marauder 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $24.75 $29.75
Dweller in the Dark 1 Fig Finecast Box $41.25 $49.50
Grôblog, King of the Deeps 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $15.25 $19.00
Ashrâk, the Spiderkin 1 Fig Finecast Clampack $13.25 $16.00
Great Beast of Gorgoroth 1 Fig Finecast Box $71.00 $85.25
Gondor Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Rohan Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Galadhrim Elf Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Dwarf Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50

RE-PACKAGED PRODUCTS

Wild Wargs 6 Fig Plastic Box $16.50 $19.75
Warriors of Minas Tirith 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Rangers of Middle-earth 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Warriors of the Dead 10 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Warriors of Rohan 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Galadhrim Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Wood Elf Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Warriors of the Last Alliance 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Dwarf Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Dwarf Rangers 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Mordor Orcs 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Morannon Orcs 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Uruk-hai Warriors 10 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Uruk-hai Scouts 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Moria Goblin Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Haradrim Warriors 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Corsairs of Umbar 12 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Easterling Warriors 10 Fig Plastic Box $22.25 $26.75
Khamûl The Easterling (Ringwraith) 2 Fig Finecast Clampack $33.00 $39.50
Easterling Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Mordor Orc Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Morannon Orc Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Isengard Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Moria Goblin Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $33.00 $39.50
Haradrim Commanders 4 Fig Finecast Box $39.50 $47.50
Mordor Orc Shaman 1 Fig Finecast Clampack - $15.25 $19.00


Here some more pics posted by Dezartfox over at One Ring:



















Also soothing words by Harry:
There will be no impact on 40K or Warhammer Fantasy releases.
They have taken on additional sculptors and Games developers to ensure they have the capacity to do this without affecting the schedule for either 40K or fantasy.




February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 21:18:14


Post by: blood reaper


Oh, new commanders as part of the old boxsets!


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 23:32:41


Post by: Experiment 626


blood reaper wrote:
Flashman wrote:
blood reaper wrote:It seems GW hasn't put up the Advanced orders for the LOTR range yet, which is annoying. Hopefully it will happen soon.


On recent form, it will be midnight tonight


Hopefully, I want that Fallen Realms book badly.


You and me both!

Here's hoping that my Easterlings are finally FV4 like they shoud be!
Kinda sad that Sauron's most dedicated & fanatically loyal followers who are described as a militaristic powerhouse are no better than the welps that defend the White City... I mean, in the books, the Easterlings were insane and went toe-to-toe with the swan knights! Hell, Aragorn spent years after the Dark Lord's demise kicking the crap outa the Easterlings who still put up a decent fight despite being hopelessly out-numbered.

I want my Easterlings to be bad@$$! Not glorified and ultra expensive Gondorians with all the hitting power of a wet noodle.
The current rules for Easterlings suck - 3pts more than a Gondorian for what, treating your spear as pike and getting cavalry without lances?! That's helpfull, except when you can't roll a 4+ to save your life and auto-lose every fight to FV4 armies.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 23:40:24


Post by: DPBellathrom


youknow, the more I see the watcher the more I stop liking it :? at first I was like : D then I saw the legs...and the body....and the face -_-


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 23:49:27


Post by: Cruentus


I was excited about the new command models (rohan and elf in particular) until I saw the pricetag. $47 for 4 finecast infantry models? Ouch.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 23:52:46


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


One of the workers at my FLGS said this

February's White Dwarf is released today and it is chock full of win and awesome! Come in today to find out what new Lord of the Rings miniatures and rules are inside, as well as the Warhammer 40,000 25th anniversary special which includes an amazing battle report and a very impressive limited edition miniature.


dunno what he means by the limited edition model, I *THINK* he's talking about the Games Day miniature, though I can't be sure as that was fetured in the previous WD... so maybe there a miniature specially for the 25th anniversary besides the Games Day model ???


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/27 23:59:03


Post by: riverhawks32


Lol there have been more games of Necromunda in my FLGS than LotR. There have been like literally 4 games in the past year....where as there have been like 30 Necromunda games this year alone. If the White Dwarf has no 40k in it, I am going to have some choice words with GW along the lines of...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 00:00:28


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


read my post


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 00:03:56


Post by: Lorizael


riverhawks32 wrote: If the White Dwarf has no 40k in it, I am going to have some choice words with GW along the lines of...


A quick count shows 44 out of 124 pages is 40K. So about a 3rd then. In a magazine which covers 3 game systems.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 00:06:58


Post by: Kroothawk


Matt.Kingsley wrote:dunno what he means by the limited edition model, I *THINK* he's talking about the Games Day miniature, though I can't be sure as that was fetured in the previous WD... so maybe there a miniature specially for the 25th anniversary besides the Games Day model ???

Maybe have a look at the "New White Dwarf and 25th Anniversary Model" thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/425525.page


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 00:07:21


Post by: blood reaper


I know, Easterlings are depicted as being utterly fearless and able to fight to the death, but they are only courage 3 and fight 3. It also seems GW hasn't even put up the preorders ether.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 00:52:02


Post by: Ozymandias


Man, I would love to paint, collect, and play with an Easterlings force. If I could find an opponent...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 02:30:56


Post by: Commander Cain


Well I don't care what the complainers are saying! GW has put out some stunning models for this game system, the new mordor beast in particular. A little too much finecast for my liking but I can live with that!

While I do not own much lotr myself, I am happy for the players who can get some additions to their armies!


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 04:06:30


Post by: fellblade


Interestingly, those army books are NOT for LotR or WotR; they're for LotR:SBG. That's a relief, because I don't bother with SBG. LotR is great for skirmish-level scenario-based games, and WotR is great for large battles. SBG is the clunky middle ground that does neither very well.I'm greatly excited by the plastic Kataphracts. I also like the new models in the command groups, and the new goblin heroes. Pity they are going to be Finecast, I don't see myself ever buying them at those silly prices.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 05:07:04


Post by: hotsauceman1


Hmm, They are all finecast. Looks like LOTR will be unplayable for a long time.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 06:38:14


Post by: lord marcus


GW taking artistic license with my favorite Fantasy book series kills me, just as the watcher in the water having legs maims me.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 07:39:26


Post by: MaximusPrime


Some of these models could be used for alot of other things, look at the "Daemond Prince" comparasin.




February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 07:44:04


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


Now your making me want to use the Dweller as a DP...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 08:14:49


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Is the Dweller something GW made up, or is it a Tolkien thing?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 08:32:32


Post by: MaximusPrime


H.B.M.C. wrote:Is the Dweller something GW made up, or is it a Tolkien thing?


I recal it being in "the hobbit", but i read that a while ago.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 08:47:57


Post by: Lorizael


fellblade wrote:Interestingly, those army books are NOT for LotR or WotR; they're for LotR:SBG. That's a relief, because I don't bother with SBG. LotR is great for skirmish-level scenario-based games, and WotR is great for large battles. SBG is the clunky middle ground that does neither very well.


Confused. There are only 2 games; Lotr:SBG or War of the Ring.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 11:20:29


Post by: Pacific


Matt.Kingsley wrote:One of the workers at my FLGS said this

"February's White Dwarf is released today and it is chock full of win and awesome! "


TBH, I would have turned around at that point and not heard the end of that sentence.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 11:30:18


Post by: Eiríkr


H.B.M.C. wrote:Is the Dweller something GW made up, or is it a Tolkien thing?


It is a Tolkien thing. It resides in the lake outside the Doors of Durin. Unfortunately, GW has given it legs for some strange, possibly slowed, reason.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 12:03:28


Post by: Kroothawk


No that's the watcher.
And GW gave him legs, because now he can walk around the battlefield instead of sitting in a lake.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 12:30:41


Post by: grishnaz


Can someone tell me why they cant do half of these things in plastic? Is it purely for money reasons? I have no problem what so ever with the detail on any of my plastic models.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 12:37:52


Post by: Gorillawizard


has anyone in the UK noticed the balls up they've made with pricing in White Dwarf compared to the GW website...

pages 14.15 and 16 of White Dwarf this month are all lower prices than the Preorder section on the Website.

Not only do they give their range of models a price hike because it's now finecrap but they balls up the price to.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 12:52:27


Post by: reds8n


Indeed.

see here

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=11700001

We regret to announce that some of the prices in February's issue of White Dwarf (WD386) were incorrectly printed in the magazine.

Although we endeavour to ensure all prices and details are correct at the time of going to print, occasionally some values do change before the magazine's release.

We sincerely apologise for any confusion or inconvenience this may cause.

For the correct prices, please visit the appropriate product on www.games-workshop.com, or speak to a member of the Customer Services Team.




February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 12:54:37


Post by: grishnaz


lower? haha I already thought they were damn high from the pics.

Deary me


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 13:00:52


Post by: H.B.M.C.


reds8n wrote:We regret to announce that some of the prices in February's issue of White Dwarf (WD386) were way too low.

Although we endeavour to ensure all prices and details are correct at the time of going to print, occasionally we mess up and forget that we can cost these at whatever we want, 'cause you lot will still pay for them.

We sincerely apologise for making you think we cared.

For the correct (and much higher) prices, please visit the appropriate product on www.games-workshop.com, or speak to a member of the Customer Services Team.


Yup.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 13:29:57


Post by: jgemrich


I'm flummoxed by this release. GIven GW recent very high quality releases for WHFB/40K and previous models in the LOTR/WOTR line these are sub standard. (sorry Perrys)

Most look like they were round 1 (or 2) rejects. Compared to the cave drake last year or other "non movie" additions something about these sculpts is very underwhelming. Personally I like the WOTR system.... I'm always in favor of new models. However, if you want to re-release the game and put it in front of folks you need to do have something better in the hopper than these.

LOTR is more skirmish based so you can get away with fewer models, but if the price point is sooooo high, I don't see how this can be an introductory system for GW or low investment option for current 40K/WHFB.

just my 2 cents.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 13:41:18


Post by: spaceelf


It is sad to see that they are not releasing the figures that were never produced for the current books, such as the dark hearted trees, beorings, and elven seige bow. People complain about nid stuff being delayed. This LOTR stuff has been waiting for many years. GWs support for its games is quite poor. They have no excuse really. They produce all sorts of other stuff like Dredfleet and towers of skulls but do not produce models for all of the units in their games.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 15:20:09


Post by: Flashman


Anyone else think that the army books are suspiciously cheap (£15) for a GW product? Guessing they're 30-40 pages max.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 15:49:17


Post by: blood reaper


Flashman wrote:Anyone else think that the army books are suspiciously cheap (£15) for a GW product? Guessing they're 30-40 pages max.

The original books did cost £12 and had the same amount of pages and content, however I'm guessing these books will only be army lists and rules and not really contain any of the modelling and painting sections of the older books, also the rules for the new warriors and heroes maybe larger in both background and stat lines (the older editions have a tiny paragraph of a description for most warrior entries) and I'm imagining more army wide special rules and such. Also, I'm surprised that Isengard is in the Fallen Realm wing of books, I imagined it to be with Mordor but maybe the Mordor army list deserves its own personal rule set having such a large force, also I'm quite annoyed Morgul Knights aren't part of the Fallen Realms army list.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 15:51:15


Post by: hotsauceman1


Im wonderng if the idea of putting them all in finecast is because they now they wont sell alot.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 17:11:08


Post by: Noisy_Marine


I must say I'm sick of everything being made in finecast. Was just looking at the Nid section and most of that is finecast it seems.

I predict it is only a matter of time before they finecast tactical squads and ork boyz.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 17:30:48


Post by: hotsauceman1


Noisy_Marine wrote:I must say I'm sick of everything being made in finecast. Was just looking at the Nid section and most of that is finecast it seems.

I predict it is only a matter of time before they finecast tactical squads and ork boyz.

Doupt it. they are plastice because so many people buy them. So little people buy the finecast models.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 18:35:31


Post by: JOHIRA


It seems to me that when GW makes an LoTR miniature based on someone else's designs, they nearly always bat it out of the park or at least do a passing job at it. Whenever they make their own designs it just turns out silly.

For example, the Great Gorgoth beast looks wonderfully naturalistic, the Rohan and Dwarf commands are great, and while the Guardian of the lake doesn't exactly light a fire for me it looks pretty well-designed.

The horror from the Deep OTOH doesn't even look like it belongs in this line. Many of the Easterling Cataphracts look awkwardly posed and the dragon knight may have the silliest hat in the line. Groblog gives him a run for his money though and makes up for his slightly less impractical hat with a stupid pose. Ashrak Spiderblood is just a mess and together with the Galadrim Stormcaller breaks the cardinal sin of plopping non-Istari wizards into the game just to make Tolkein's world more like D&D. The Stormcaller, while competently executed, also looks like he belongs in a completely different line in a completely different game.




February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 19:39:20


Post by: Kroothawk


Flashman wrote:Anyone else think that the army books are suspiciously cheap (£15) for a GW product? Guessing they're 30-40 pages max.

Looking at the first post, I guess that 4 are 48 pages and one is 64 pages


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 19:52:57


Post by: Maelstrom808


Personally, I do like the Dweller. I might pick it up to use as a C'tan.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/28 21:00:53


Post by: Flashman


Kroothawk wrote:
Flashman wrote:Anyone else think that the army books are suspiciously cheap (£15) for a GW product? Guessing they're 30-40 pages max.

Looking at the first post, I guess that 4 are 48 pages and one is 64 pages


Damn it! 50 pages was my first (and as it turns out, superfluous) guess.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/30 10:54:45


Post by: STC_LogisEngine


About damn time we get some more LOTR, one year without support is a bit stiff, time to pick up some plastic cataphracts . And seriously: can people just get over themselves and GET that LOTR IS the third Core Game? GW has been saying it since it came out and one thinks that after a -Decade- people should recant their 'nah it's a specialist game' point of view. So you got no Tervigons this month either? well Boo F**king Hoo; us Eldar-players still has an early 4th ed codex, have mostly a metal/finecast model range and yeah, My Warp Spiders and basic vehicle plastics are from the Second Edition. You see me whining about that? No, I'm doing fine with my Eldar. And you are not Entitled to model releases, to persist in the delusion that you are is just childish.

Secondly: All GW Produced models from the LOTR IP strictly adhere to the Concept Art produced for the LOTR-Movies or are directly approved by Tolkien Enterprises. GW Does Not 'muck about' and 'give it legs' because if they do they will loose their licence in a heartbeat, and they know it. It's too much money at stake for that kind of shenannigans.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/30 12:39:12


Post by: Davor


Commander Cain wrote:Well I don't care what the complainers are saying! GW has put out some stunning models for this game system, the new mordor beast in particular. A little too much finecast for my liking but I can live with that!

While I do not own much lotr myself, I am happy for the players who can get some additions to their armies!


The complainiers are people who need "watered down", "steamlined" "dumed down" rules to play WITH LOTS OF DICE to Roll in order to have fun, is what I gather from reading alot and espically complaints of the "leaked" 6th edition 40K rules. I don't like calling people names but with all the whining and complaining because of LotR and it's not 40K just makes me feel sad for the people who think they are so great because they play with plastic toy soldiers in a very simplified game.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/30 13:01:23


Post by: FM Ninja 048


FFS, I got Amdur: Lord of blades when he came out, as did many other people (i'm guessing) now we have to pay £20.50 just to get him on horse, and get another on foot. But of course if I mention it when I buy it I bet the response will be "But It's FINECAST, it's so much better than metal..." which just annoys me even more

however it is balanced by the lovely elven command (I missed the standard and captain when they were metal) and the other easterling stuff (I like the bunny helmets, ok, I know it's wierd)

fellblade wrote:Interestingly, those army books are NOT for LotR or WotR; they're for LotR:SBG. That's a relief, because I don't bother with SBG. LotR is great for skirmish-level scenario-based games, and WotR is great for large battles. SBG is the clunky middle ground that does neither very well.


What is this LotR you speak of, I only know of LotR:SBG or WotR


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/30 15:49:47


Post by: 4oursword


Correct me if I'm wrong, but can the orc with spear on the great beast support a troll in combat? I thought it was done with base size, and if it's true, I'll start playing LOTR.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/31 06:44:29


Post by: Griever


Game system struggling? Raise the prices.

This is logical.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/31 08:11:22


Post by: supremeoverlordVECT


problably gonna buy some of the stuff soon, never bought finecast before.....anything i should know?


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/01/31 08:15:11


Post by: Orki


Someone pointed out earlier that the Casualties set is not advertised as being made from Failcast.

GW just wouldn't miss a trick like this surely? No Failcast logo, nothing. just this...

"This pack contains eight casualties for The Lord of the Rings. These models are finely detailed resin cast miniatures. They are supplied as eight separate..."


http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat750002a&prodId=prod1460159a

Is trhis the beginning of the end of Failcast? I dang well hope so! It could be an error, and i've not seen the WD to cross reference this.


Anyone else feel like celebrating?


Edit: i've started a new thread so as not to clutter this one. I've a hunch this might generate a fair bit of speculative interest.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/426926.page#3859203


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/02/03 12:08:16


Post by: reds8n


GW have uploaded a new Youtube video concerning the LOTR game



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9r5Eh7ybz0&feature=uploademail

Note that this would appear to confirm the (re) appointment of Mr. Troke to the development studio...


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/02/03 13:13:38


Post by: Flashman


supremeoverlordVECT wrote:problably gonna buy some of the stuff soon, never bought finecast before.....anything i should know?


Not really the place for yet another finecast discussion, but to sum up... positives - light and quite easy to clean / negatives - there are a noticeable number of miscasts kicking about, plus it's tricky to straighten bent parts (swords, staffs etc) so that they stay unbent.


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/02/03 20:16:09


Post by: Experiment 626


Flashman wrote:
supremeoverlordVECT wrote:problably gonna buy some of the stuff soon, never bought finecast before.....anything i should know?


Not really the place for yet another finecast discussion, but to sum up... positives - light and quite easy to clean / negatives - there are a noticeable number of miscasts kicking about, plus it's tricky to straighten bent parts (swords, staffs etc) so that they stay unbent.


Solution: Only buy your finecast from the GW on-line store as all those miscasts will be replaced and you'll end up with some spare models for your troubles!
Hell, I ordered 1 pack of the Blasted Standards for my daemon army. 1st pack I got sent, I could see daylight through the hanging parchment on the one banner and it had a huge gap running the length of it. Replacement pack, same problem on the same banner. (btw - it's the one w/big horns similar to the tzeentch icon from the CSM squad box)

Final thoughts: So I figure the first banner is likely the slightly better copy of the two and I'll bite the bullet and green stuff it to fill in those awful gaps. The upside? The replacement pack had 2 of the 'burning bird skull' banner in it so for $23 bucks, I now have a total of 6 usable banners, 3 of which are the one I like the most!

Look at it this way; if you buy say an easterling command set, (or any of them really), odds are pretty good you'll get at least a couple extra characters if not a second complete set by the time you have enough replacement packs to give you clean models!


February: LOTR release month (with pics) @ 2012/02/08 16:31:57


Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti


Hope this isn't threadmancy and all but I thought it was worth mentioning.

I have bought a goblin command box and I got an extra shaman. WIN!

My mate bought two elven command boxes and guess what? He got two extra stormcallers! DOUBLE WIN!!

Might be worth the investment if you were on the edge about a decision seen as you never get free mini's from geedub. Don't take this as law though, it might not happen for you, we may have just got stupidly lucky

On another level I think this release is great and some of the new rules and character I like a lot (except the dweller, it's the worse model I have ever had the misfortune to see.....). The books are nicely laid out and easy to navigate and missions ain't too bad neither