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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
So my last blog kinda sunk by my own fault, I should have known that I was far too busy to maintain it, however life has achieved some order so I thought I'd try again and split my 40k and LOTR intentions for clarity.
So why LOTR? Well Imho I think is the best balanced system that GW have and that the fights are far more realistic than either 40k for whfb cos if your fighting a similarly skilled dude then of course it could take a while to resolve the scrap.
I have 3 armies going for LOTR at the present. Gondor, Moria and Angmar, 500pts of each just about. For now I'll post some Angmar shenanigans
So here's the list that at present I am/will be using as I am short of a few models ( thank god pay day is round the corner  )
Warband 1: 158pts
Orc Captain w/ shield (20%)
8 Orc w/ shield (50%)
3 Orc w/ 2h weapon (75%)
1 Orc w/ standard (60%)
Warband 2: 92pts
Orc Shaman (0%)
6 Orc w/ spear (60%)
Warband 3: 125pts
Barrowight (70%)
5 Spectre's (70%)
Warband 4: 125pts
Barrowight (70%)
5 Spectre's (60%)
This is 500 pts on the dot with a break point of 16.
Each percentage represents the progress of my army and how much it is built/painted/based. 0% means I don't have the mini's yet.
I chose it out of sheer disruption value and in truth is quite a hardy and intimidating force. So here's what I got and my current progress:
My spectre's, a lot of fun to play with, terror causing, high defence, can possess people and attack the courage! Dwarves? What dwarves?  Also a joy to paint
My Orcs w/ shields to form the front of my battle line (one is missing from the picture).
My Orcs w/ spear to support the guys with shields.
And my 'support' Orcs, to provide more killy on the flanks and for those essential re-rolls
Really enjoying painting this force at the moment, very unusual colour for orcs I know but I have always wanted a purple army lol. The banner is the most fun as I am building up the purple to make them into wings with a slightly 3D effect, you can just see it beginning. The wings are there because this is actually gonna be a warband for Gulahvar at 700pts so really it is his personal raiding party.
I have actually painted at least the basecoat of everyone's skin since and done some highlight's. The skin on the spectre's is obviously way more developed but that's because they are the most fun to paint
Well that's it for the first installment folks, will do all I can around work, revision and my lady to keep it coming
C&C more than welcome and most importantly: take it easy folks...
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Hey, I actually like a lot of the rules for LoTR! It was my first real Skirmish sort of game... other than Heavy Gear I guess.
Anyway.
They look good so far! LoTR models can be a real pain in the ass to paint, being just a slightly smaller scale than the more typical 28mm Heroic stuff. Particularly cloth on the plastic models, since it seems to just blend in with the rest of the stuff.
The Spectre's look good! Getting those eyes dotted with that 'dead' look really makes em' creepy, and the blue flesh goes well with the rest of it.
You seem to be going pretty heavy on the Ghosts. That should keep things interesting. I haven't played since I sold my Easterlings... but looking at some of the new models I might get back into it. Maybe a small warband or something.
Bah, too much on my plate right now. I'll just watch your blog instead. >.<
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Post by: Panic
yeah,
Great start and I love the spectres.
The orc spectre looks particularly great .
I'm a big fan of your purple scheme. it never occured to me to paint outsidethe box
I painted my goblins just like the book... I might steal your scheme!
Panic
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Wow, thanks for stopping by so soon!!
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Hey, I actually like a lot of the rules for LoTR! It was my first real Skirmish sort of game... other than Heavy Gear I guess.
Anyway.
They look good so far! LoTR models can be a real pain in the ass to paint, being just a slightly smaller scale than the more typical 28mm Heroic stuff. Particularly cloth on the plastic models, since it seems to just blend in with the rest of the stuff.
The Spectre's look good! Getting those eyes dotted with that 'dead' look really makes em' creepy, and the blue flesh goes well with the rest of it.
You seem to be going pretty heavy on the Ghosts. That should keep things interesting. I haven't played since I sold my Easterlings... but looking at some of the new models I might get back into it. Maybe a small warband or something.
Bah, too much on my plate right now. I'll just watch your blog instead. >.<
Thanks man
Yeh they can be a real pain in the butt, especially with eyes being minute. Painting the Orc's eyes will almost make me shed man tears....
Ghost heavy all the way mate. There is no way that for every spectre I have the chance to control the enemy if they fail a courage test ( and with most troops being courage 3) I would give that up!! And sculpts are some of the best in the range imo.
Get it going mate! Well worth a dabble and a few hours here or there but feel free to stop by and chat all the same
Panic wrote:yeah,
Great start and I love the spectres.
The orc spectre looks particularly great .
I'm a big fan of your purple scheme. it never occured to me to paint outsidethe box
I painted my goblins just like the book... I might steal your scheme!
Panic
Cheers dude. I did favour the elven spectre sculpt to begin with but the orc has gradually become much more fun to paint, there is just that extra bit of character to it.
Don't worry my goblins are by the book too and they will soon be up here with their ugly mugs
By all means sir, the purpleness awaits!!
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Post by: Swordwind
Blue orcs eh? Not something you always see, but it's looking good so far. Especially like the purple.
Always preferred the look of Easterlings myself.
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Post by: rodgers37
I love LOTR
Those Spectres look amazing, especially the central one, love the mix of blue, gold and purple.
The overall purpleness is pretty cool.
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Now this is what I wanted to see, knew you LOTR fans hide in the depths somewhere, the LOTR forum is awful quiet so thought I would bring it to the forefront
Swordwind wrote:Blue orcs eh? Not something you always see, but it's looking good so far. Especially like the purple.
Always preferred the look of Easterlings myself.
Thanks! Yeh pretty rare man but I like to go outside the box sometimes
Got to admit, they have been nagging at me but three armies is enough for any man!
rodgers37 wrote:I love LOTR
Those Spectres look amazing, especially the central one, love the mix of blue, gold and purple.
The overall purpleness is pretty cool.
Means a lot buddy
Yeh the elven spectre is a beauty of a sculpt and will definitely be adorned with plenty of attention
Didn't realize the purple would get this kind of support! lol
Edit: Can't spell
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Post by: Swordwind
Only three? I have the beginnings of four 40k armies looking at me, and I'm getting interested in Warmahordes and Fantasy too. I am an insane man.
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Holy cow! yeh your not wrong, your sanity may have legged it for the nearest cover as you bombarded it with dreams of plastic crack
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Post by: Swordwind
And all I really got was two editions of starter kits and a battleforce.  Got them in 4th ed, still haven't finished painting.
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Haha sounds like a long job dude. I guess I do have the foundations of a fourth army as I have a handful of forgeworld renegades and a thudd gun on the production line  May I join you in your delirious insanity that all my projects will get completed at the same time??
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Bah, it's the life of all of us. The unfinished projects that stack up and up and up! I have no problem with this, I just need to balance that, working 10 hours a day for 6 days a week, and hopping onto my video games now and again.
If only I didn't have to sleep.
Now go paint more ghosts!
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Yep it sure is, many an army has run aground due to my impatience and attention span
Damn that's a long week!!! I used to work like that before christmas, 50hrs for two jobs and my accounting course on top, boy was that burning me out!! I do not envy you mate but I sure do admire your strength of will!
Well I'm gonna start on the browns and the trailing weeds now, using dark dullish greens for the plants to make them look kinda dead/dying and mix it up with 'rotting flesh'. Already used a heavy ink wash on a base of vermin brown for the belts and stuff but I ain't convinced even slightly, too shiny now  Need new browns me thinks.
But on the subject of more I have just placed an order for 3 blisters of spectres and a blister of barrow wights meaning the only model left to buy is the shaman but hopefully I will get that for my birthday next week
May have a couple more pics up tomorrow morning with progress on my plants or maybe even tonight, stay tuned
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I'm trying to imagine what the terrain looks like when Sam and Frodo were going through the marshes... that the effect you're going for?
That movie could be super-earthtone/grayscale at times, so I get a little colorblind regarding what's what.
Then again, I have a rule against painting things the way they are supposed to be painted. My Easterlings were tan and copper with blue and teal accents. Be a rebel.
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Your not wrong, it was very earth tone but I don't think I will go that dark, just a standard bestial brown, dry brush vermin brown, dry brush bleached bone is what i will go for with static grass. However with the new spectres I have ordered I will be leaving bits of the base un-based so to speak so I can paint it like murky water and then maybe use a brush on gloss??
That sounded like a really nice combo, I can picture that well
Be a rebel eh?? Hmmmm......pink......plus a spare treebeard........ Automatically Appended Next Post: OK folks so a small progress update for you here. I have done the trailing weeds on one of the spectre's and here is the result:
Back
Front
Not the best photo's unfortunately, the light isn't quite right at this time in the morning but didn't want to keep you guys unfed
So what do you like think guys?? Pretty simple to do really. Start from Orkhide shade and work up with Rotting Flesh, think there are 5 highlights there, the last couple edging towards 'extreme'. I quite like them, they kind of look dead with the dark shadows and basecoat still pushing through in areas but also full of life with the pure Rotting Flesh final highlight (irony huh?  )
Hope to have the spectre's kinda done by the end of monday but I'll give you all a progress report tomorrow, want to work on the banner too and make it pop from the fabric
Now to get ready for a hard days working!!
See ya soon
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Post by: spyguyyoda
I like your color scheme! I tend to paint a little outside the box, as well. Also, I have about 6 armies partially painted...and one almost painted. :(
Those spectres especially look good, btw. Moar pictures!
PS: glad to see someone plogging about LotR.
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
A little fuzzy on the weeds, pic wise, but I can definitely see how the colors blend, and it looks good. Keep it up chief.
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spyguyyoda wrote:I like your color scheme! I tend to paint a little outside the box, as well. Also, I have about 6 armies partially painted...and one almost painted. :(
Those spectres especially look good, btw. Moar pictures!
PS: glad to see someone plogging about LotR.
Get on it mate!! They are a lot more fun to paint that I had anticipated, really enjoying a different adventure than the usual
Cheers mate, there will be more up soon to feast yours eye's on, getting some more paint to finish them today
Yeh I thought it would be quite good to get some LOTR out there, it's great to see so many of you coming out of the woodwork so-to-speak!
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:A little fuzzy on the weeds, pic wise, but I can definitely see how the colors blend, and it looks good. Keep it up chief.
Thanks man, clearer pictures inbound over the next couple of days!
BIRTHDAY UPDATE!!!
So on the first day of my 21st year on earth I got a delivery!!
Check it out:
Received 3 more packs of spectres and a pack of barrow wights, meaning I am only missing the shaman now  Will update the progress list at the top. Hoping I have it among my presents but won't open them until everyone has got home from work
I'll have them built and an army shot will be up tomorrow to show off the spectral host!!
Talk to ya soon guys!
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Post by: rowenamosgallant
hey man, looking great! So happy to see another LotR blog, not enough of those around
Also, sorry once again that the cave troll was eaten...
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Gratz on the 21st! Glad you got some shiny stuff for it.
I look forward to more Ghosts and Ghouls!
On a side note... though a lot of people grumble about mixing in other GW models with the LoTR line and vice-veresa (Balrog wings be damned!) every think of picking up that plastic Cairn Wraith or whatever it is from the Warhammer Fantasy line?
Drop it on a round base and paint it up like the rest, and it would make a kickass model for the army, and still be in theme! It'll just be a little bigger/meaner looking.
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Post by: Scrazza
I like the colors. Keep up the good work.
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rowanamosgallant wrote:hey man, looking great! So happy to see another LotR blog, not enough of those around
Also, sorry once again that the cave troll was eaten...
Yeh there sure ain't, we gotta make a change dude!
Haha, not a problem, still makes me chuckle at the thought! Remember when my cat got hold of one of my first rohirrim, the way he ended up he would have sooner stood on the walls of helms deep alone!
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Gratz on the 21st! Glad you got some shiny stuff for it.
I look forward to more Ghosts and Ghouls!
On a side note... though a lot of people grumble about mixing in other GW models with the LoTR line and vice-veresa (Balrog wings be damned!) every think of picking up that plastic Cairn Wraith or whatever it is from the Warhammer Fantasy line?
Drop it on a round base and paint it up like the rest, and it would make a kickass model for the army, and still be in theme! It'll just be a little bigger/meaner looking.
Thank you very much!
That's a really cool idea, I do very much like the wraith plastic mini for the VC's, I have one somewhere and may try that out, he could be the leader of my haunted host  Cheers for the thought
Or maybe a banshee with a little green stuff would make for a cool Barrow Wight? No reason why there can't be undead queens too!
Scrazza wrote:I like the colors. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for stopping by! I will try my best
So unfortunately today has been one hell of a day and I haven't got anything LOTR done  (barely finished my renegades for my other dakka Blog!)
Will post an army shot on Sunday and hopefully have done all the vines on my first three spectres.
Until then I am going paintballing with my new Tippman TPX hand gun!! So next time I see you, I will most probably be hurting!
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Post by: deathstreak2000
Love the purple on the Orcs!
Good to see a lotr blog as well!
Good work
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Post by: bubble
LOVING the purple! Nice colour scheme, a little different to the norm which is great I think  xxx
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deathstreak2000 wrote:Love the purple on the Orcs!
Good to see a lotr blog as well!
Good work 
Cheers! Purple seems to be a favourite amongst the dakkite nation
bubble wrote:LOVING the purple! Nice colour scheme, a little different to the norm which is great I think  xxx
Thank you very much! Yeh it's a tad different......
AN UPDATE OMG!
Yeh sorry guys, 2 exams and working a seven day week and a gamestation sale did not help for sure!
A small update as I do not have a lot to show except an army shot to give you an insight to the size of my project which to be honest looks tiny!
Unfortunatley the metal and the finecast like to think they are glowing in sunlight so they aren't very clear. They are put into their warbands here. I reckon a hard month and I could have these done
On another point I have been thinking about an entire spirit host. The image in my head looks cool and on paper, played the right way, it could be damn formidable! So this is what it would look like:
Warband 1:
Shade
7 spectre's
Warband 2:
Barrow Wight
6 spectre's
Warband 3:
Barrow Wight
6 spectre's
Total 500pts
BP:12
A brittle army to be sure and no doubt I will be outnumbered but the combination of abilities is brutal. There are 20 models that can control another model if they fail courage, there are two that paralyze anyone on a 4+ (unlimited uses in the game, once per turn though) and a model that reduces the enemy roll by one in every combat within 6".
Now factor into that that nothing has a defence lower than 5 or a courage lower than 6 (except the shade) and the spectres assault courage instead. Oh and they all cause terror, so even when it isn't my priority I have a say in what charges are made
Overall LETHAL. Or so I think, I could well be wrong! It wouldn't be the first time
So that's it for this update, let us know what you think guys and feel free to talk about anything LOTR! I do hope to have the orcs (not characters) done by the end of the week
Peace, Scotti
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Post by: Scrazza
Looks like a nice army. I haven't played spectres yet, but they seem to do the trick. I'm doing a LOTR blog here on dakka as well. I'm definatly subscribed, This is good inspiration.
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Cheers man, they are an intriguing unit and worth a look if you can include some for their powers.
Let me know when you start it up, I'd love to have a nosey!
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I already started it up, but it has already been lost in the great confusion that is dakka. Last post from a few days ago.
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Crud I will finds it! Glad I'm not the only one flying the LOTR flag, it deserves better!
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Post by: Scrazza
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Crud I will finds it! Glad I'm not the only one flying the LOTR flag, it deserves better!
Indeed it does. GW gave it a little bit of love, so we should do the same.
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Scrazza wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Crud I will finds it! Glad I'm not the only one flying the LOTR flag, it deserves better!
Indeed it does. GW gave it a little bit of love, so we should do the same.
QFT my friend.
Ok so no piccys but I do pose you a question Dakka. I am going to spray my Barrow Wights later on today and was wondering how I should paint them? They are a pale blue originally but do you think the same effect replicated but with lilacs would look just as good? Silver armour as well I think?
Let me know what you think
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Post by: spyguyyoda
I like the idea. Do it and post pics
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spyguyyoda wrote:I like the idea. Do it and post pics 
Your wish is my command! I will make it so
Might start some basing too and get some of the orcs done so that's a little off the work load and I can concentrate on the spectres cos they're awesome!
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Hey all,
Spyguyyoda, I swear they are being painted, have done the armour and the base colours, gonna post when done  have opted for a more fight-in-with-army scheme than the GW purplized.
Not a lot to say other than that I am afraid, busy again in life and it's killing my hobby time  however the GF is at work all day on friday and I have the day off so that means: SUPERAWESOMEBUMPERLOTRUPDATE!!
On friday I will be showing step-by-step images of some spectres being painted, reveal the finished barrow wights if I haven't by then, tactics of my army in the making and spirit army to be and also if I can get my brother to play, have a small battle report for you guys to enjoy! Orcs may well be done too! Very much looking forward to doing this as concentrated hobby time has never hit such a low with me.
Until next time, take care
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Just gotta find the balance between life and hobby. Its a hard one. I work 10-11 hour days, and when I get home I don't tend to want to do anything even remotely cerebral.
Having good friends in the hobby really helps me out. I work so much better and faster when I have someone to hang out with and talk to while I'm painting or assembling.
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Your not wrong! It's really really really hard at the moment, I mean I'm lucky that my distractions are all good (work, GF, friends, family etc.) but man is it irritating when you think, half an hour could get me half done on a dude!
Yeh I find that helps sometimes however sometimes I find my own company better, depends how chatty I am feeling and attention span
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Post by: Dr. What
I must say:
I'm inspired by the idea of an all ghost list.
I think I'm going to tinker with one, maybe with a wraith in it.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Liking what I see! I own most of those models and know what a pain some of them can be to paint what with everything blending into each other. The purple paint scheme looks great, I love the banner especially.
I was sooo close to starting an Isengard army myself, what with all those pikes and whatnot.  Unfortunately, the price increase in the models made my mind up and I went back into the grimdark future to paint some moah mareenz!
Keep up the good work!
Cain
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
A brittle army to be sure and no doubt I will be outnumbered but the combination of abilities is brutal. There are 20 models that can control another model if they fail courage, there are two that paralyze anyone on a 4+ (unlimited uses in the game, once per turn though)
I'm impressed by this list and tinkering with a similar one, but don't barrow wights have a limited amount of will? or did they change that in the new sourcebooks?
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Nice you could join us
Dr. What wrote:I must say:
I'm inspired by the idea of an all ghost list.
I think I'm going to tinker with one, maybe with a wraith in it.
It's one that would be a lot of fun, no doubt about it, the manipulation of your enemies army is as good as it gets and even when your opponent has priority you can find yourself still in control of the game  Do it sir! Or I will guinea pig it and see how it does and relay feedback ?
Commander Cain wrote:Liking what I see! I own most of those models and know what a pain some of them can be to paint what with everything blending into each other. The purple paint scheme looks great, I love the banner especially.
I was sooo close to starting an Isengard army myself, what with all those pikes and whatnot.  Unfortunately, the price increase in the models made my mind up and I went back into the grimdark future to paint some moah mareenz!
Keep up the good work!
Cain
Cheers buddy!
I should have the banner done soon so hopefully you will like it even more finished
If that's the case I have an small ton of Uruks that I don't use and I'm not really a fan of anymore, I can see what I got and send you a pm? I don't want a lot for them
I'll try!
Dr. What wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
A brittle army to be sure and no doubt I will be outnumbered but the combination of abilities is brutal. There are 20 models that can control another model if they fail courage, there are two that paralyze anyone on a 4+ (unlimited uses in the game, once per turn though)
I'm impressed by this list and tinkering with a similar one, but don't barrow wights have a limited amount of will? or did they change that in the new sourcebooks?
No, you're correct it has 5 will, didn't see the will stat  but still it's pretty good and I will still take them for 50pts a piece. That should be enough though to either:
1)hamper a shield wall
2)hamper a very strong combat hero
3)tie up a powerful wizard
All three represent a real problem for the enemy, a pair mean 10 paralyze attempts. Not to be trifled with.
So I have just undercoated the remaining spectres and I am hoping to have all the basecoats of purple, skin (well ghostly skin  ) metal and the weeds done. And the I would like to get the purple highlights done, the metal washes and the skin done today. Finished the eyes and the weeds would be a bonus, let's see if I can work fast enough. Also nearly done my barrow wights so they'll be up if a few hours with them.
More later today!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ok folks as promised here is some of the current painting,
Barrow Wight No.1. I like this model more than the other to be honest, the pose is nicer. Went for the same look as the spectre's but gave them brighter eyes to hopefully show that they possess more than just undeath, they have a active mind still if you will.
Barrow Wight No.2. Not a bad model I suppose but still I like the other better  other thing about my BW's they have grey hair not the white you expect from a really old being as I thought grey looked more 'deathly' on them and white may be too bright for the army, actually that sounds stupid given I have nearly lilac orcs  more the wrong kind of bright perhaps?
One thing I can tell you is batch painting spectres ain't a lot of fun but I wanted to get some really good updates for you guys so I am making myself do it  Done the base purple, skin and metal. Next will be gold on the elven spectres, tarnish all the metals, next skin highlight and then the undercoat for the trailing weeds
I will try and have another two picture updates today but I can't promise anything due to time constraints, I'll try my best
Also later will be some tactica for the spirits in my army and also a small discussion on army choice for an upcoming event .
So guys, please C&C away and I'll be back shortly
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Post by: spyguyyoda
Hmm...I like it. I really like the eyes. The purple seems a little flat, though. It may be the picture, but it looks like they could use at least one more highlight on the cloth parts.
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Ok here's another progress shot for you:
They look a little messy at the moment but I promise you my highlights will make them look a hell of a lot better. I hate this stage, I don't know why but when they look like this they look a long long long way from being finished lol
I haven't got a lot of time left for painting at the moment (gotta get to GW and buy my mate some hexwraiths for his birthday and then meet the GF from work) so I thought I would share some of my tactics concerning my current pain-in-the-  , the spectres
Spectres, So what are they good for?
1) Spectres are tough for a start, a defense of 5 means they can weather most volleys with ease and hold their own with most standard fighting troops.
2) They are courage 6 so will hang around even if you break which is very handy.
3) They attack the enemy courage value instead of defense, so yes that means if you play minis tirith every fella on their side with heavy armour has effectively wasted 2 points
4) They can 'possess' your opponent. You choose a model of the enemies within 12" and make them roll for courage, they fail you can move them even if they have already been moved. Though this excludes those in combat and you can't cause harm to them, you can hold up his entire battle plans by deciding his entire flank will desert him for a merry wander
5) They cause terror!
Thoughts
So those are some pretty strong pro's right? What you need to realise is that they can disrupt the enemy to the point of frustration and you can halt his/her (Sharazad  ) in their tracks. I will be using 10 shades in 500pts, so I am gonna nominate as many in his front ranks as possible. Now if these are GotFC, the best shield wall a human player can take, using my spectre power I can, using probability, stop at least 4 or 5 in their tracks, or send the right or left five off in another direction. If it is the latter there be some juicy spear troops to kill. They want to charge you, you have terror, on average it's going to be 50/50 on whether the enemy can charge you (7 is the average you can roll on 2 dice) meaning he/she might only get half the troops into the fight leaving you to gang up on them with your spectres and other troops.
At the end of the day, even if you do not have priority you can take control of the game again in a few dice rolls especially if you get lucky and scare Aragorn  (I would not advise that btw there are better and easier targets!)
Why they might suck
1) High points cost for a troop (may find yourself outnumbered a lot)
2) Fight Value 2
Thoughts
Now one of those is a very big con, the fight value. So yes you can by-pass armour but you are also more likely to end up on the receiving end. Being as skilled as a goblin is never good but they are dead so we'll forgive them  BUT all is not lost, use them in combination with the ultimate anti-banner, a shade, and the enemy can score no higher than a 5 in combat within 6" of said wraith. And if your running a tournament army why not take 2 because yes this effect does stack, 'I'm sorry Elrond, you may be one of the best combatants in the game but I'm afraid a 4 is the best we will allow you'  and then also use your spectres powers to ward off anyone threating the shades. THE POWER OF TEAMWORK!
So there's a little food for thought guys, will post anything I think of later and maybe some more painting if I have the time
Until then, take it easy
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Liche Purple can be incredibly frustrating to highlight.
There's no convenient lighter color you can just brush on and win. Hormagaunt Purple is WAY too Grey for it to work properly. But if you're willing to mix paints, Hormagaunt added to the Liche Purple is a soft way to lighten the Liche Purple without the obnoxious lavender color you get from adding white to it.
If you have any Rotting Flesh, you can add that to your Liche Purple to make a highlight that would be perfect. Bleached Bone also works better as a mixer than Skull White. It seems weird at first but trust me, it works.
Once that last skin hightlight gets on those guys will pop. You really do the Spectres in a great bluish tint, its the tops.
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
spyguyyoda wrote:Hmm...I like it. I really like the eyes. The purple seems a little flat, though. It may be the picture, but it looks like they could use at least one more highlight on the cloth parts.
Just for you spyguyyoda
Cheers man, yeh I think another highlight might do them good, good call  also thinking of putting an emblem on the chest piece of the 2nd seen as he was a King after all, do it in black and then go over it carefully in silver to create a kind of carved in illusion if you see what I'm saying, can't think of the words to put it better Automatically Appended Next Post: Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Liche Purple can be incredibly frustrating to highlight.
There's no convenient lighter color you can just brush on and win. Hormagaunt Purple is WAY too Grey for it to work properly. But if you're willing to mix paints, Hormagaunt added to the Liche Purple is a soft way to lighten the Liche Purple without the obnoxious lavender color you get from adding white to it.
If you have any Rotting Flesh, you can add that to your Liche Purple to make a highlight that would be perfect. Bleached Bone also works better as a mixer than Skull White. It seems weird at first but trust me, it works.
Once that last skin hightlight gets on those guys will pop. You really do the Spectres in a great bluish tint, its the tops.
I do actually use bleached bone  I prefered the hues I got from it to that of rotting flesh but there wasn't a lot in it to be honest
A great bluish tint? Can you expand mate, I'm not quite getting you  Or you mean like the ones I already done?
Would also like to thank everyone for looking and commenting, we've hit a 1000 views and it's driving me on, so a big thanks to all
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
I meant the ones you've already done, the spectre flesh looks great.
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Post by: Dr. What
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Nice you could join us
Dr. What wrote:I must say:
I'm inspired by the idea of an all ghost list.
I think I'm going to tinker with one, maybe with a wraith in it.
It's one that would be a lot of fun, no doubt about it, the manipulation of your enemies army is as good as it gets and even when your opponent has priority you can find yourself still in control of the game  Do it sir! Or I will guinea pig it and see how it does and relay feedback ?
I am testing a similar list tomorrow:
(Not organised into warbands yet, but):
Ringwraith - max stats
2 Barrow Wights
19 Spectres (I was given a friend's box of "useless/broken miniatures" and it containted a treebeard, elrond, bilbo, rare aragorn, and LOTS of Rohan, broken elves, goblins, and MANY Numenorians. Thus, I made them into spectres).
Thoughts? Automatically Appended Next Post: Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
3) They attack the enemy courage value instead of defense, so yes that means if you play minis tirith every fella on their side with heavy armour has effectively wasted 2 points
Wait...where is that in their rules?
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Post by: spyguyyoda
^
I believe the special rule that grants that ability is still called Spirit Grasp.
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Post by: Dr. What
Is it simply for all spirits? Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually, Spirit Grasp is for WoTR, not SBG
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:I meant the ones you've already done, the spectre flesh looks great.
Cheers man, much appreciated
Dr. What wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Nice you could join us
Dr. What wrote:I must say:
I'm inspired by the idea of an all ghost list.
I think I'm going to tinker with one, maybe with a wraith in it.
It's one that would be a lot of fun, no doubt about it, the manipulation of your enemies army is as good as it gets and even when your opponent has priority you can find yourself still in control of the game  Do it sir! Or I will guinea pig it and see how it does and relay feedback ?
I am testing a similar list tomorrow:
(Not organised into warbands yet, but):
Ringwraith - max stats
2 Barrow Wights
19 Spectres (I was given a friend's box of "useless/broken miniatures" and it containted a treebeard, elrond, bilbo, rare aragorn, and LOTS of Rohan, broken elves, goblins, and MANY Numenorians. Thus, I made them into spectres).
Thoughts?
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
3) They attack the enemy courage value instead of defense, so yes that means if you play minis tirith every fella on their side with heavy armour has effectively wasted 2 points
Wait...where is that in their rules?
spyguyyoda wrote:^
I believe the special rule that grants that ability is still called Spirit Grasp.
Dr. What wrote:Is it simply for all spirits?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Actually, Spirit Grasp is for WoTR, not SBG
Dr.What - I would drop the amount of will your using and also the fate and might a little, maybe go for a 2/10/2 Ringwraith, then drop a barrow wight and a spectre and invest in a shade to reduce all enemy dice rolls to win a fight within 6" are reduced by one to counter the lack of fight for spectres
Ever thought of playing a named Ringwraith? Maybe the undying to benefit off the barrow wights will usage? Or the Dark Marshall for his banner effect and higher fight?
If you don't run a wraith then you could use a double BW and shade combo, which to be honest is what I'd do, cheaper and still have a great impact, plus the shade is harder than a wraith as it has 3 wounds so shooting is not so much a problem
Warbands wise, if you plan to run the exact list you posted go 7 with the Ringwraith and 6 a piece with the BW's, they new missions mean you bands can be split up meaning you want to protect your greatest asset should he find his band alone
The ability is called spectral blades for the spectres, page 36 in their profile in the new sourcebook. For shades it is called Blades of the dead.
Haven't really got time to paint anymore tonight I'm afraid, gotta get ready for paintballing tomorrow, hopefully will have my new tippmann CP98  Very Excited!
So I though I'd talk about how I intend to use my newly painted barrow wights:
The good bits
1)They have a high defense of 7
2)They have courage 6
3)They can paralyze the enemy for long periods of time and have reasonable amount of will to do so.
The bad bits
1)Only 1 wound.....
2)Range of said paralysis is 6"
These guys rule but are so delicate, you need to keep them tucked up against the back of your line and safe from archers, 1 wound is not great for 50pts especially with no fate but they can be kept safe easily. If they are tucked up behind a double line of troops they still have a 4" range beyond them and you can really knacker the enemy lines. Put holes in the shield wall as he/she is forced to leave them behind or dictate the game as they use their other troops to help their trapped comrades, havoc will follow and you should, if you move right get the combats you want and even outnumber in some cases. Heroes, enemy combat heroes, are to be avoided at ALL costs even if they hit your front line back off far enough away so that you a) can still hit them with paralysis and b) can slot another spectre in between you can the hero cos if aragorn gets going with a heroic combat he WILL go straight through your line and the barrow wight without breaking a sweat! The best way to counteract this is use a pair of BW's to destroy the will stockpile the enemy hero has and force him/her to use as much might as possible, no one wants there Boromir captain of the white tower rendered useless after spend 175pts on him but then again use up that huge stockpile of might to keep free? It forces the other general into a difficult situation. This way a pair of barrow wights can earn their points back with ease. This also goes for nullifying the enemy wizards too, harass them every turn with a pair of BW's and watch the will disappear and the might, even Gandalf the White will struggle to win the magic battle as he is forced to use that free will every turn as well as an extra and then forced to use something to retaliate, his will will be gone in 3 to 4 turns if you get lucky. Now I'm not saying that this is fool proof, you may not hit, but the threat alone of a large chunk of one's army being made useless may provide ample distraction to control the game.
So any thought's on the tactica I put out today? C&C is more than welcome and if you want to mention something I have missed go for it!
Next painting update is most likely monday but I will be talking on here over sunday and a bit of tonight no doubt and finger crossed Monday will bear the first of my battle reports!  My brother has just returned from washington with college and he said yes to a game. It will be Dwarves vs. Angmar  I'm waiting for him to stick Dain in cos I'll cry
Peace
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Post by: Scrazza
I like the paintob on those models
Can't really say anything about tactics, as I'm not much of a gamer.
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Post by: Dr. What
Thank you for clarifying! I will have to buy the Moria & Angmar sourcebook ASAP.
And I am taking:
1 Shade
2 BW's
20 Spectres.
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Post by: TH3FALL3N
This blog has really got me in the mood to paint up my Harad army !
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Scrazza wrote:I like the paintob on those models
Can't really say anything about tactics, as I'm not much of a gamer.
Thanks mate, look forward to seeing you make progress on yours
Dr. What wrote:Thank you for clarifying! I will have to buy the Moria & Angmar sourcebook ASAP.
And I am taking:
1 Shade
2 BW's
20 Spectres.
Your very welcome.
Awesome  let us know how the battle goes, I would be very interested to hear the result, good luck!
TH3FALL3N wrote:This blog has really got me in the mood to paint up my Harad army ! 
Get on it! Then go ravage middle earth!
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Post by: Dr. What
Brother-Captain Scotti, I salute you!
I ran this force today, against Elves (Led by Legolas) and Rohan (Royal Guard led by Eowyn).
I won.
The Barrow Wights died to volley fire (my opponent got desperate to stop me). The shade led me in a win against Eowyn and her "rough riders."
By "Possessing" an approaching Elven Phalanx, I pulled them in 1 or 2 at a time, and basically ate them.
The BWs did get 2 spells out in their time though. They wrecked 2 Royal Guard (In a later 300 point match, they kept Lurtz and an Isengard Troll down for most of the game).
I must say:
You are either the most brilliant strategist that Angmar has ever seen or somebody too insane for psychiatric care.
My one concern:
How could this list hold against a Moria force featuring a drum/1 or more Shaman(s)?
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
thumbs up!
S.
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Post by: Ayowyn
Hi, i am the player who was beaten by this and i must say it is a fantastic army i am wondering if you know any way to counter this army?
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Dr. What wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti, I salute you!
I ran this force today, against Elves (Led by Legolas) and Rohan (Royal Guard led by Eowyn).
I won.
The Barrow Wights died to volley fire (my opponent got desperate to stop me). The shade led me in a win against Eowyn and her "rough riders."
By "Possessing" an approaching Elven Phalanx, I pulled them in 1 or 2 at a time, and basically ate them.
The BWs did get 2 spells out in their time though. They wrecked 2 Royal Guard (In a later 300 point match, they kept Lurtz and an Isengard Troll down for most of the game).
I must say:
You are either the most brilliant strategist that Angmar has ever seen or somebody too insane for psychiatric care.
My one concern:
How could this list hold against a Moria force featuring a drum/1 or more Shaman(s)?
First of all, congratulations on the win! Great to hear the list went well for you
Gotta say, I thought elves might upset you but you must have played a good game  And from the sounds of what you did, you did exactly what you needed to, you took control out of your opponents hands and said 'you play by my rules either way'. Eating an elven phalanx is very hard to do with any army so well done!
BW's really come into their own, despite them falling early on in your elven match up, I'm guessing your shade and spectres got little attention meaning you were would be at full combat strength by the time you reached him/her  And the fact they held down a troll and lurtz is testament to really how under rated they are!
That is one of the funniest complements of all time, cheers! Don't mind if I sig that do you?
Mate, neither of them should be a worry, the best a drum can do is make you goblins courage 3, you still wound on a 4 and while it acts as a huge banner, you have you shade to make sure you still reduce their max roll, the odds are still in your favour I would say. The shaman's , one BW spamming paralysis on it and watch the will drain and with the amount of spectres in the force you should be able to move the cowardly beings out your way to slay the shaman. I don't mind doing some mathhammer for you at some point if you wish with the drum thing
Sharazad wrote:thumbs up!
S.
Cheers Sharazad, glad your enjoying the read
Ayowyn wrote:Hi, i am the player who was beaten by this and i must say it is a fantastic army i am wondering if you know any way to counter this army?
Hey there, nice to meet you! And sorry I gave Dr. What the list......
The way I look at it is by cancelling out the strengths, that means a high courage army. So I would go with wood elves, not galadhrim but bare wood elves. Why? Because your armour counts for nothing and with courage 6 you stand the best chance, now take a pair of powerful wizards (stormcallers I think, not well versed in elvish forces I'm afraid!) and someone absolutely lethal like Glorfindel. Max your bows too. This is were you need to focus because the BW's and the shade are not what you should shoot at all, shoot the spectre's! Whittle them down and begin to open up gaps to the heroes. I would sit Glorfindel on a horse simply because the spirit host has no ranged attacks to dismount him.
Can't believe I have just told people how to beat my horrific host but hey, I don't mind helping one bit
Ok guys and gals got a small update for you.
Got a call from my mum and dad this morning and they were like 'hey found three boxes of pretty new LOTR warhammer, wood elves, rohan and haradrim, you want them?' Now I wasn't sure cos I don't do any of them at all, so I asked skeptically how much to which my dad replied '£10 son for the three boxes' ($16 US). Holy cow! I said yes and my dad told me they were pretty much new and that the riders were still on the sprue!
They got them home and I checked them out, this is what I received:
20 wood elves, the other four are somewhat damaged
A metal gandalf, fellowship of the ring edition (sweet ass mini)
6 Pretty much NOS Riders of Rohan, horses need pinning to bases as the previous owner evidently didn't know what the little nubbins on the hooves were
20 Haradrim Warriors
Oh and to my bewilderment, 2 knoblars
Here's a piccy of the swag!
Other than that folks not a lot to tell regarding my Angmar as I have spent my day with the lovely lady friend  BUT there will be a few updates tomorrow! Not only will there be painting and shade tactica but there will the FIRST BATTLE REPORT!! I get to test my 250pt spirit host list against my brothers dwarves and he's already letting on that Dain will be involved, the joys.......... but hey lets see what my BW's have to say
Looking forward to chatting soon! Take care!
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ok thx for the advice i am currently working on an elven army and i will hopefully be testing it out tomorrow against DR.What.
Ill tell you how it does
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
No problemo mate, I look forward to hearing the result, he has a hard list but it can be beat.
Also thought that if you use spells to disable the BW's you can force them to use will and in turn do what they are trying to do to you  Priority may sometimes be a must so keep your might ready for key moments!
Good luck!
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Post by: Dr. What
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
That is one of the funniest complements of all time, cheers! Don't mind if I sig that do you?
Go right ahead.
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
Hey there, nice to meet you! And sorry I gave Dr. What the list......
This will make things fun. I like the idea of counters, but I also want to flex my new Elven force, the Sons of Elrond.
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
They got them home and I checked them out, this is what I received:
20 wood elves, the other four are somewhat damaged
A metal gandalf, fellowship of the ring edition (sweet ass mini)
6 Pretty much NOS Riders of Rohan, horses need pinning to bases as the previous owner evidently didn't know what the little nubbins on the hooves were
20 Haradrim Warriors
Oh and to my bewilderment, 2 knoblars
Nice! I went to borrow some extra goblins from a friend and accidentally got the "junk box." He said I could keep it, so now I have a Treebeard (I had to repair him, but he's now an Ent in my Elven force), Bilbo, some great metals (2 have become Elladan and Ellrohir to me for my Elven force), all of the Numenorians which are now my Spectres (cheers to you for that idea!), and the elves which are now the rest of my Elven force! Automatically Appended Next Post: Long story short:
I love getting GW minis for a lot cheaper!
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Dr. What wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
That is one of the funniest complements of all time, cheers! Don't mind if I sig that do you?
Go right ahead.
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
Hey there, nice to meet you! And sorry I gave Dr. What the list......
This will make things fun. I like the idea of counters, but I also want to flex my new Elven force, the Sons of Elrond.
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
They got them home and I checked them out, this is what I received:
20 wood elves, the other four are somewhat damaged
A metal gandalf, fellowship of the ring edition (sweet ass mini)
6 Pretty much NOS Riders of Rohan, horses need pinning to bases as the previous owner evidently didn't know what the little nubbins on the hooves were
20 Haradrim Warriors
Oh and to my bewilderment, 2 knoblars
Nice! I went to borrow some extra goblins from a friend and accidentally got the "junk box." He said I could keep it, so now I have a Treebeard (I had to repair him, but he's now an Ent in my Elven force), Bilbo, some great metals (2 have become Elladan and Ellrohir to me for my Elven force), all of the Numenorians which are now my Spectres (cheers to you for that idea!), and the elves which are now the rest of my Elven force!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Long story short:
I love getting GW minis for a lot cheaper!
Always nice getting a bargain for GW mini's seen as they are now extortionate
So here it is, the battle report!!
BATTLE REPORT NO.1: URUK-HAI VS ANGMAR
I came into the battle feeling very confident with my new build, a terror causing possession army. My brother was a little curious of my list and not entirely happy about some of the powers but was like hey, it's the rules.
Now I did say it was dwarves vs. angmar but he couldn't find them so he played as my old Uruk-hai forces.
The armies:
Angmar
Uruk-Hai
I rolled won the roll for set-up and elected 2nd.
Set-up looked like this:
Sam reckoned he has deployed the tape measure remarkably well
Turn 1
Sam won priority. He moves his left flank back behind his crossbows to maximize his shooting before any combat and also away from my powers. Crossbows move across too.
I hug the cover on the left and the right so that I'm out of view but still advancing.
End of turn 1
Turn 2
I won priority and wasted no time getting up closer, moved round the hill on the left and kept out of view on the right giving the crossbows nothing to shoot. I can see his Uruks on the left but I am not within possession range yet. Sam isolated my right hand group and continues to move left with the captain, banner and berzerker group. He advances with his left hand Uruks and the crossbows try and climb the ruin for a better view, only one can reach and sam rolls a 1.
Turn 3
Sam wins priority and crossbows move onto the ruin. He leaves the left Uruks where they are the the right hand group can catch them up. I'm forced to move across the field but keep my Barrow Wight shielded by spectre's. The spectres shielding the BW possess the captain and run him away from the others.
End of turn 3
Turn 4
I won priority this time (very fair so far  ) and move my right host across again. They possess two crossbow men and move them so they can't fire, the captain is also possessed again and is run further from the fight. The spectres in my left possess two pikemen and run them in front of their own guys, blocking them slightly. Remaining crossbow fires at a BW but hits a spectre instead but fails to wound.
End of turn 4
Turn 5
I win priority again. I move up the right spirits and leave the left ones where they are. Possess two crossbows and the captain on the right and run them toward the board edge. One crossbow had fallen last turn when I possessed it so it couldn't shoot anyway so I left it. I possess a shield and a pike on the left to try and block the berzerker again. Sam moves around them and heads straight for my right hand warband.
End of turn 5
Turn 6
Sam wins priority and begins by moving his captain from the edge of the battlefield back towards my right clump. The berzerker and the banner move right also to prepare to try and tackle my larger group with the crossbows and captains help. I charge the captain with 3 spectres and surround him. I try and paralyze the berzerker but fail and shoved a spectre between the BW and the berzerker for protection. I shield the BW from shooting with another spectre. The left group of ghosties possesses a shield Uruk and then moves to the right and out of harm's reach.
Sam's crossbows fire at my barrow wight through my spectre and kills the BW! A big loss!
The Uruk Captain also does well and beats all my spectres in combat, he dispatches one.
End of turn 6
Turn 7
I win priority but I'm pretty worried at this stage, I have lost a key player and sam's rolls and now mostly higher than average meaning a lot less possessions! I possess, move and surround his captain on the right. Barrow wight no.2 also fails to paralyze the berzerker. I screen the BW from combat. Sam moves into combat with the spectre screening my BW with the berzerker. His Uruks on the left hurry right to try and catch the fleeing ghosts over the hill.
Sam kills a stranded spectre with his crossbows.
I beat the berzerker back despite rerolls from the nearby banner for Sam but fail to kill the berzerker. I also win the combat against the Uruk captain on the left but Sam uses both his might to win the combat. It proves a wise move as he kills two more spectres!
Turn 8
I am now losing badly having not killed a model and Sam having disposed of four! The dice gods just didn't want to know!
I won priority but Sam calls a Heroic Move with the other captain on the left. The left group of Uruk's seem fearless despite my terror causing appearance and crash into the spectres with pikes to back them up. With nothing left to really swing this I launch my remaining spectres into combat hoping to score a couple of points seen as I wound on 4 attacking their courage. BW paralyzes the berzerker finally!
Sam's crossbow's fail to do anything.
His captain on the left kills the spectre fighting him but my spectre fighting the paralyzed berzerker kills the helpless Uruk! Finally a 6!
End of turn 8
Turn 9
Sam wins priority, I'm dreading the coming turn. Some luck though, the captain on the right fails his terror test and so does a shield Uruk on the far left. Then in the move of the match, Sam see's his opening, neutralizes both control zones from a pair of spectres and slots his captain straight through and into the remaining BW......crud......... I'm also broken so I test for fleeing ghosts and all of the ones not in combat stay. The last spectre on the right heads left to the more squishy crossbowmen leaving the frightened captain behind.
Said spectre is then turned into a pincushion much to Sam's delight.
In combat though I lose no-one I can't wound for toffee, I win against a pair of pikemen with a pair of spectres and roll a double one......I only need a 4 to kill! Just wasn't my day at all
End of turn 9
Turn 10
Sam wins priority again and locks everyone up in combat.
He's determined to shoot the barrow wight to death and even does so through 3 of his own men, miraculously hitting the mark every time! But fails to wound.
In combat Sam wraps it up by killing a spectre with the banner bearer and the captain finally butchers the Barrow Wight.
I fall below 25% and lose the match!
End of turn 10
VICTORY URUK-HAI!!!
Sam came through strong in the second half of the match and his dice were on fire too, if he wanted something he would just about get it. I on the other hand couldn't have rolled well if my life depended on it other than the first few possessions  10 years of it gives you patience enough
I did make a colossal mistake though, I should have dragged out the crossbowmen and destroyed them before he could get his fighting units across. I could have been a good 3 or 4 up on Sam before he had his pikes and such to hand. It cost me dear in the end but you play to learn no?
So congratulations to Sam, a well deserved victory!
On another note, I have realized that though the all spirit army is not that viable at all. The flaws are just too deep and any player with enough sense will butcher them with cunning, the fight value also really lets them down. So I have decided to keep the orcs and such in and stick with the original list at the start of my blog, they really are a support unit rather than anything else. In the end, there just isn't enough substance in the list (no pun intended  )
Well I hope you enjoy to the report and Sam wants to play my Angmar army again with his dwarves so hopefully have another one up soon! (When he finds them anyway!)
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Oh, it looked great! I only field the spirits in 300 points, so I can take a shade and a wight.
The best thing to do is see if 1 enemy unit (say, a captain or just a grunt) is within/at 12" of your blob when the opponent has got priority.
Before you move, Make the 1 unit take all of those courage tests. Move him the full distance to your blob.
Then, move in and surround, then slaughter. The shade helps for winning the fight, but trapping them leaves non alive!
Looks like you had a lot of fun though!
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Cheers! Just wish I didn't have a plain chipboard gaming board  gonna cover it with green felt for ease and tack it down round the sides. Sand etc. would get damaged when I slide it back behind my bookcase!
Well yes you can do that but then you have his/her mates breathing down your neck and preparing to butcher you as he/she closes in, just targeting one person leaves the rest of the army free to do what it wants. Once you bunch up and they call heroic moves that you can't counter because you have no might at all you will get ripped to shreds with the poor fight value spectres have and you can't rely to much on the shade, it is far from a guarantee.
The huge problem with this army is it relies HEAVILY on luck, which I don't have  You NEED to get the rolls that matter and a army living on the knife edge 99% of the time gets it's ass wooped unfortunately.
Either way it was fun and let us know how it continues to go with your spirits too
I shall continue to devise my orc/spirit hybrid list and see where it takes me.
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Post by: Sammassallama
Was a Great Game, had me worried in the first few turns, as my Uruks were being sent upon a merry Jog.
A little advice against a Spirit Spam Army such as my Brothers.
-Ranged Attacks work awesomely, especially in taking the attention of the Spirity folks away from the Bulk of the force, and generally, if you have some good combat troops, the Spirity Folks have no way of fighting back.
-Heroic Moves. Due to the fact that the Spirit Spam army has little, or even no might, despite priority, characters with might can quite often take control of the situation and swing the battle in thier favour, much like I did against the Spirits and Isolated them, and prodded them with sharp things
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
I shall continue to devise my orc/spirit hybrid list and see where it takes me.
I'm wondering if swapping out a BW for some orc/goblin archers might help. Or spearmen?
I wish we could use "Blinding Light" so the little orcses can go down and light candles of their own.
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Post by: Trondheim
Good report, it warms my dark hearth to see those spiris sendt packing! Anyways well played to both of you
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Dr. What wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
I shall continue to devise my orc/spirit hybrid list and see where it takes me.
I'm wondering if swapping out a BW for some orc/goblin archers might help. Or spearmen?
I wish we could use "Blinding Light" so the little orcses can go down and light candles of their own.
I am thinking about investing in a dozen orc trackers at some point, 5pts each, come with a bow and hit on a 4+. Bargain I think. And yes some variation on the spells would be good but we do have the shadow lord for the same effect
Trondheim wrote:Good report, it warms my dark hearth to see those spiris sendt packing! Anyways well played to both of you
Hey, glad you could join us
Haha, I know your not so keen on the spectres and such so I bet it did! I am hoping to play my brother again soon and maybe my friend down the road too and get the reports for them posted too, maybe using my yet to be revealed Gondorians
Which is my next point, to take a break I have been painting up one Boromir, captain of the white tower but with a different colour scheme to the usual, so far I am happy and I hope to have a picture up sometime tomorrow for you all to look at. But now it's bed time!
Take care all!
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Post by: deathstreak2000
An extremely enjoyable report!
Although I thought you had it in the bag early on when you were making his captain dance across the board  , and I think if you had rolled a little better you probably would have. It was like the game I had today, my dwarves often only needed 4s to would my opponents orcs but I just never seemed to do it but when my opponent was rolling to wound, and needed a 6, he always seemed to get it!
Keep up the experimenting and I'm sure you'll find that list which is much more effective! Oh, and I for sure would not like to play a list like yours!
Out of interest, what battle type were you playing from the new sourcebooks?
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Post by: Dr. What
Unfortunately, Ayowyn and I played again, same forces (elves and Angmar) but reversed roles. The list was roasted.
It's a really unique/hilarious list that spawns tons of evil grins (if they aren't being slaughtered by Elven dakka.
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Post by: Trondheim
Glad to make an apperance you know, Yes I do loathe those ectoplasma dOOds with a burning passion, but you acctualy made me grin while reading it.
On a side note, I recived words from Sweden. My Easterlings seems to have gone insane and butcherd Hobbits & Dwarfs. I also orderd a Dragon Knigth from GW yesterday alongside a new Bronze collour and a batch of Nuln oil
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
deathstreak2000 wrote:An extremely enjoyable report!
Although I thought you had it in the bag early on when you were making his captain dance across the board  , and I think if you had rolled a little better you probably would have. It was like the game I had today, my dwarves often only needed 4s to would my opponents orcs but I just never seemed to do it but when my opponent was rolling to wound, and needed a 6, he always seemed to get it!
Keep up the experimenting and I'm sure you'll find that list which is much more effective! Oh, and I for sure would not like to play a list like yours!
Out of interest, what battle type were you playing from the new sourcebooks?
Hey there, welcome to the party
Yeh I also thought early on I would be butchering Uruks as I fancied but failed to capitalize. Also fight 2 is utter rubbish unless you have numbers (how I love you Moria).
Haha unlucky man, I know that feeling so so so so so well
We haven't played in a while so went for a straight up deathmatch, lose at 25%, next time I might play a new scenario though, we just wanted to get up to scratch again
Dr. What wrote:Unfortunately, Ayowyn and I played again, same forces (elves and Angmar) but reversed roles. The list was roasted.
It's a really unique/hilarious list that spawns tons of evil grins (if they aren't being slaughtered by Elven dakka.
It is a very fun army and can definitely spawn laughs, I mean the only guy I killed on Sam's team was the berzerker and he was the hardest of the lot
Trondheim wrote:Glad to make an apperance you know, Yes I do loathe those ectoplasma dOOds with a burning passion, but you acctualy made me grin while reading it.
On a side note, I recived words from Sweden. My Easterlings seems to have gone insane and butcherd Hobbits & Dwarfs. I also orderd a Dragon Knigth from GW yesterday alongside a new Bronze collour and a batch of Nuln oil
Well I am glad you enjoyed the read my friend, I shall supply more battles for yours eyes to feast on
Now THAT sounds like fun! I wanna slaughter the shorter folk! my brothers dwarves have defeated me many a time and I feel it's time for some payback!
Love the dragon knight mini, let us know how the bronze works out too if you wouldn't mind, looking for a replacement myself for brazen brass.
I kinda said Boromir would be up yesterday so sorry that he wasn't but he's here now! Hope you like him:
Now I know exactly what you gonna say, where is the freehand on the banner? Well I though I would post this before I really mess it up  If I may say so myself, I'm pretty proud of the way the red has come out  The brown isn't that flat in real life though....
C&C is always appreciated people, will have some minas tirith up soon hopefully as well as the spectres skin finished and the BW's also complete
LAST BUT NOT LEAST ATTENTION PEOPLE!!! PLEASE CAN I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION!! (Oh wait your reading it.....so I guess that means........) SHARAZAD HAS STARTED UP A ROHAN BLOG SO PLEASE SUPPORT IT!! YOU CAN FIND HER THROUGH MY FRIENDS OR THE BLOG PAGE AS USUAL. THE LOTR COMMUNITY IS GROWING NOW SO LETS SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND HAVE SOME FUN! HERE'S THE LINK FOR IT: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/442306.page
Ta
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Post by: Commander Cain
Ooh, nice blending on that flag! I expect some super freehand to go along with it!
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Post by: Trondheim
Now THAT was awesom! May I sell you my soul and my firstsbourn child?
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Post by: spyguyyoda
Yeah, that red came out nice. KEEP IT UP!
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Post by: Chemical Cutthroat
Very very nice with that flag. That's a big chunk of red and you've done a great job of getting that nice and smooth. Excellent work sir.
Also, if you're gonna plug someone's Blog, maybe you could post a link to it as well?
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Commander Cain wrote:Ooh, nice blending on that flag! I expect some super freehand to go along with it! 
Haha there would be one eh?  I'll try my best!
Trondheim wrote:Now THAT was awesom! May I sell you my soul and my firstsbourn child?
Errr.....I have no money and I'M not buying Trond but I appreciate the offer?  Cheers man
spyguyyoda wrote:Yeah, that red came out nice. KEEP IT UP!
I'l try, got some more red clothed fellas coming up soon so keep them eyes peeled!
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Very very nice with that flag. That's a big chunk of red and you've done a great job of getting that nice and smooth. Excellent work sir.
Also, if you're gonna plug someone's Blog, maybe you could post a link to it as well?
Thank you very much sir, I'm not great at blending colours usually but red is the exception it seems
Sorry, common sense seems to desert me at times  I will edit the other post.
Ok folks, I have a choice or you can choose even!  I can either get painting warriors of Minas Tirith or Guard of the Fountain Court. Alongside that I will painting an Isildor mini to use as a King of Men during games. You have until tomorrow to decide!
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:deathstreak2000 wrote:An extremely enjoyable report!
Although I thought you had it in the bag early on when you were making his captain dance across the board  , and I think if you had rolled a little better you probably would have. It was like the game I had today, my dwarves often only needed 4s to would my opponents orcs but I just never seemed to do it but when my opponent was rolling to wound, and needed a 6, he always seemed to get it!
Keep up the experimenting and I'm sure you'll find that list which is much more effective! Oh, and I for sure would not like to play a list like yours!
Out of interest, what battle type were you playing from the new sourcebooks?
Hey there, welcome to the party
Yeh I also thought early on I would be butchering Uruks as I fancied but failed to capitalize. Also fight 2 is utter rubbish unless you have numbers (how I love you Moria).
Haha unlucky man, I know that feeling so so so so so well
We haven't played in a while so went for a straight up deathmatch, lose at 25%, next time I might play a new scenario though, we just wanted to get up to scratch again
Howdy
Haha yeah that is so true  played today with mine agaisnt some elves and I just swamped my oppenant. Its so much fun
You should give the new missions a try, I've found them quite enjoyable
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:I kinda said Boromir would be up yesterday so sorry that he wasn't but he's here now! Hope you like him:
Looks good! What are you planning to free hand onto it? I've always loved Bomomir models, especially this one!
Looking at this blog is really tempting me to start my own!
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Post by: spyguyyoda
Freehand!
Freehand!
Freehand!
I should get off my butt and take pics of my LotR stuff, since that's all I've actually finished lately...
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Post by: Commander Cain
I vote for some guard of the fountain court, love those minis!
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
@Deathstreak - yeh I sure will man, my friend is digging out his old LOTR stuff out too so hopefully there are gonna be 4 or 5 of us in my friend group who play, sure to get some scenarios in somewhere
spyguyyoda wrote:Freehand!
Freehand!
Freehand!
I should get off my butt and take pics of my LotR stuff, since that's all I've actually finished lately...
Haha, ok, ok, ok it will come before anything else
Do it! I would love to see anyone else's LOTR mini's, there aren't enough around on here!
Commander Cain wrote:I vote for some guard of the fountain court, love those minis!
Ok one for the GotFC  Need some undercoat first though  get some from town today on the way to my mates.
Got a cool piece of news, anyone remember Deagostini releaseing 'battles for middle earth' magazine? Well I just picked up issues 12-21 for £2.50 and £1.99 postage on eBay  I know Eomer is in there and he alone is what £10 on horseback? WIN  I'll show you all the goods when they arrive.
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
It smells like some of us LOTR fans should organize a meet and battle ^^
Hey Scot, like your Boromir, I always found him an interesting character and am a big fan of Minas Tirith.
You just keep on coming with those pics
S.
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Sharazad wrote:It smells like some of us LOTR fans should organize a meet and battle ^^
Hey Scot, like your Boromir, I always found him an interesting character and am a big fan of Minas Tirith.
You just keep on coming with those pics
S.
That would be great, maybe when everyone is happy with their army, a day out to WW?
Thanks for the kind words Sharazad, any progress to be shared on your Blog?
2000 VIEWS!! CHEERS GUYS AND GALS!!
And your reward??
Well it comes in the form of two battle reports which I am playing tomorrow (Gondor Vs Harad) and friday (Gondor Vs Isengard). In these I will be playing the new missions too
Ok so I haven't posted for a few days but I have been busy!! Promises!! Here have a look  :
Guard of the fountain court, the coolest of the cool for me. The scheme is far from the usual so will interested to see what you guys say, still a red highlight, the browns, flesh highlight and a wash over the white to come on these fellas.
The dog soldiers. Still great mini's for me and by far my favourite standard warriors. Pretty much the same left to do on these except their red is all done and they need their white parts doing.
Sorry about the lighting in the pictures, my room's blue walls seem to be tinting the photo's I think, time to find a new spot
Will have more up tomorrow I hope or Friday, maybe even finished products and of course the battle reps!
As always C&C away folks,
And take it easy
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Sharazad wrote:It smells like some of us LOTR fans should organize a meet and battle ^^
Hey Scot, like your Boromir, I always found him an interesting character and am a big fan of Minas Tirith.
You just keep on coming with those pics
S.
That would be great, maybe when everyone is happy with their army, a day out to WW?
Thanks for the kind words Sharazad, any progress to be shared on your Blog?
noob question, what did you mean with WW?
yeah if we set up a date so everyone can prepare something and then the battle may begin ^^
no my blog has to wait since I'm still away. But there is progress made so when I'm back home
there will be pictures
And thanks for your support, btw your soldier guys look wicked, I like what you've done with the metal.
S.
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Post by: deathstreak2000
Love the fountain guard, I have to admit. I wish I could paint white/pale clothe as well as that.
The weirdest thing though; the Minas Tirith force I have started painting has a similar (if not same) red clothes paint scheme
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Sharazad wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Sharazad wrote:It smells like some of us LOTR fans should organize a meet and battle ^^
Hey Scot, like your Boromir, I always found him an interesting character and am a big fan of Minas Tirith.
You just keep on coming with those pics
S.
That would be great, maybe when everyone is happy with their army, a day out to WW?
Thanks for the kind words Sharazad, any progress to be shared on your Blog?
noob question, what did you mean with WW?
yeah if we set up a date so everyone can prepare something and then the battle may begin ^^
no my blog has to wait since I'm still away. But there is progress made so when I'm back home
there will be pictures
And thanks for your support, btw your soldier guys look wicked, I like what you've done with the metal.
S.
Not a noobish question at all, I thought dakka might have it as an abbreviation but I was wrong, WW is Warhammer World. It is central to the country so all could partake hopefully
Awesome I look forward to seeing the Rohirrim and I hope your enjoying your time away, if I read correctly on dakka discussions earlier I hope all is well with your Mum in the netherlands?
Not a problem, we gotta stick together and get the LOTR hobby going on here  Thanks for the kind words
deathstreak2000 wrote:Love the fountain guard, I have to admit. I wish I could paint white/pale clothe as well as that.
The weirdest thing though; the Minas Tirith force I have started painting has a similar (if not same) red clothes paint scheme
Thanks man  I'm sure you can, just lay down a grey undercoat followed by a standard white coat and then a watered down coat and hey presto, the white you want  mine might do well from another coat too
Haha I would love to see a comparison  Twin armies!
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you're men are looking cool. I like the paint scheme.
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Post by: deathstreak2000
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:deathstreak2000 wrote:Love the fountain guard, I have to admit. I wish I could paint white/pale clothe as well as that.
The weirdest thing though; the Minas Tirith force I have started painting has a similar (if not same) red clothes paint scheme
Thanks man  I'm sure you can, just lay down a grey undercoat followed by a standard white coat and then a watered down coat and hey presto, the white you want  mine might do well from another coat too
Haha I would love to see a comparison  Twin armies!
Sounds pretty easy when you say it like that
I'll put some picture up and you can compare
Actually, I think I'm going to take the plunge and start my own lotr blog
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Scrazza wrote:you're men are looking cool. I like the paint scheme.
Cheers mate  have you updated yours yet? Haven't seen it around for a while.
deathstreak2000 wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:deathstreak2000 wrote:Love the fountain guard, I have to admit. I wish I could paint white/pale clothe as well as that.
The weirdest thing though; the Minas Tirith force I have started painting has a similar (if not same) red clothes paint scheme
Thanks man  I'm sure you can, just lay down a grey undercoat followed by a standard white coat and then a watered down coat and hey presto, the white you want  mine might do well from another coat too
Haha I would love to see a comparison  Twin armies!
Sounds pretty easy when you say it like that
I'll put some picture up and you can compare
Actually, I think I'm going to take the plunge and start my own lotr blog
Just takes some time, a few layers and some patience is all
Do it mate! You have my full support
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I've been trying to get some pics off my phone (it's my only camera) but I just can't do it. I don't know why either since i've had no problem with it before
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Sharazad wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Sharazad wrote:It smells like some of us LOTR fans should organize a meet and battle ^^
Hey Scot, like your Boromir, I always found him an interesting character and am a big fan of Minas Tirith.
You just keep on coming with those pics
S.
That would be great, maybe when everyone is happy with their army, a day out to WW?
Thanks for the kind words Sharazad, any progress to be shared on your Blog?
noob question, what did you mean with WW?
yeah if we set up a date so everyone can prepare something and then the battle may begin ^^
no my blog has to wait since I'm still away. But there is progress made so when I'm back home
there will be pictures
And thanks for your support, btw your soldier guys look wicked, I like what you've done with the metal.
S.
Not a noobish question at all, I thought dakka might have it as an abbreviation but I was wrong, WW is Warhammer World. It is central to the country so all could partake hopefully
Awesome I look forward to seeing the Rohirrim and I hope your enjoying your time away, if I read correctly on dakka discussions earlier I hope all is well with your Mum in the netherlands?
Not a problem, we gotta stick together and get the LOTR hobby going on here  Thanks for the kind words 
Yeah the time away in the Netherlands yes ^^ was cool, seeing family and all  thanks for saying that about mum.
Yay for Warhammer World, I already thought you meant that. Yeah going to Nottingham from London isn't all to bad, I've done it before ^^
I hope more people are interested.
Congratulations deathstreak2000 with the Blog, I'ts awesome you made one!
S.
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deathstreak2000 wrote:I've been trying to get some pics off my phone (it's my only camera) but I just can't do it. I don't know why either since i've had no problem with it before
Seems to be sorted I see
Sharazad wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Sharazad wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Sharazad wrote:It smells like some of us LOTR fans should organize a meet and battle ^^
Hey Scot, like your Boromir, I always found him an interesting character and am a big fan of Minas Tirith.
You just keep on coming with those pics
S.
That would be great, maybe when everyone is happy with their army, a day out to WW?
Thanks for the kind words Sharazad, any progress to be shared on your Blog?
noob question, what did you mean with WW?
yeah if we set up a date so everyone can prepare something and then the battle may begin ^^
no my blog has to wait since I'm still away. But there is progress made so when I'm back home
there will be pictures
And thanks for your support, btw your soldier guys look wicked, I like what you've done with the metal.
S.
Not a noobish question at all, I thought dakka might have it as an abbreviation but I was wrong, WW is Warhammer World. It is central to the country so all could partake hopefully
Awesome I look forward to seeing the Rohirrim and I hope your enjoying your time away, if I read correctly on dakka discussions earlier I hope all is well with your Mum in the netherlands?
Not a problem, we gotta stick together and get the LOTR hobby going on here  Thanks for the kind words 
Yeah the time away in the Netherlands yes ^^ was cool, seeing family and all  thanks for saying that about mum.
Yay for Warhammer World, I already thought you meant that. Yeah going to Nottingham from London isn't all to bad, I've done it before ^^
I hope more people are interested.
Congratulations deathstreak2000 with the Blog, I'ts awesome you made one!
S.
Seems we have quite the pyramid
Hey it's cool, my mum was seriously ill too and was pretty much pronounced dead, I'm lucky she is alive and well!! Very lucky!! And glad your having a good time
Aye I'm the same distance from the other direction being in York so not too bad here neither
Me too! Would be great if we had a 'DAKKA'S BIG LOTR DAY OUT!'
Quite, a congratulations is in order, nice one DS2000!
So I guess this means ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT!!
MR DEATHSTREAK 2000 HAS MADE A LOTR BLOG TOO!! I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU VISIT IT FOR SOME COOL FINDS, HIS COLLECTION IS MIND BOGGLINGLY HUGE! ALSO HAS SOME NICE SHINY MINAS TIRITH GOODIES!! YOU CAN FIND IT HERE!: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/444141.page
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Cheers Sharazad and Brother-Captain Scotti! Thanks for all the support already A lotr day at WW would be AWESOME! Unlike you too though I live quite far away (Margate in Kent, literally the southeastern tip of England) but when at uni I'm based at Coventry which is extremely close by Thanks for the post about my blog as well  I'll return the favour  Although I think most lotr supports are out of the woodwork already oh and congrats on reaching the 4th page of your blog
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Your more than welcome buddy for both the support and the post
Well if we can time it for when your in Coventry then  I like the thought of meeting all you guys and having a few games and some fun, would be great
Thank you very much! Hopefully it will continue to grow  Though I am enjoying making this Blog so I see no reason why not
Prepping for the battle report now folks, just a little change, I will be playing a Angmar army and not all spirit based this time!!
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deathstreak2000 wrote:Cheers Sharazad and Brother-Captain Scotti! Thanks for all the support already
A lotr day at WW would be AWESOME! Unlike you too though I live quite far away (Margate in Kent, literally the southeastern tip of England) but when at uni I'm based at Coventry which is extremely close by
Thanks for the post about my blog as well  I'll return the favour  Although I think most lotr supports are out of the woodwork already
oh and congrats on reaching the 4th page of your blog 
But if you have a lotr day at WW would it not than be Tolkein World for the day?
Loving the thread Scotti, everyone doing their own lotr blogs makes me want to do one for my corsairs, but it's my last year of high school, so I'm probably gonna have a hard time finding time :( Still at the very least I can change my location on my profile
Keep up the good threads guys!
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Your more than welcome buddy for both the support and the post
Well if we can time it for when your in Coventry then  I like the thought of meeting all you guys and having a few games and some fun, would be great
Thank you very much! Hopefully it will continue to grow  Though I am enjoying making this Blog so I see no reason why not
Prepping for the battle report now folks, just a little change, I will be playing a Angmar army and not all spirit based this time!!
Apart from next month when I go back for exams (I really should start revising properly...) I won't be back in Coventry until October  but I'm prepared to travel up through the summer anywho
Oh and I'm looking forward to this battle report
Krellnus wrote:deathstreak2000 wrote:Cheers Sharazad and Brother-Captain Scotti! Thanks for all the support already
A lotr day at WW would be AWESOME! Unlike you too though I live quite far away (Margate in Kent, literally the southeastern tip of England) but when at uni I'm based at Coventry which is extremely close by
Thanks for the post about my blog as well  I'll return the favour  Although I think most lotr supports are out of the woodwork already
oh and congrats on reaching the 4th page of your blog 
But if you have a lotr day at WW would it not than be Tolkein World for the day?
Loving the thread Scotti, everyone doing their own lotr blogs makes me want to do one for my corsairs, but it's my last year of high school, so I'm probably gonna have a hard time finding time :( Still at the very least I can change my location on my profile
Keep up the good threads guys!
Tolkein World!?!? Why have I never heard of this before?
Do it, Do it, Do it! I'm currently revising for exams at Uni and I was going to start the blog up later but by then I'd have probably finished it all :L
In all seriousness, another lotr blog wouldn't go amiss!
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Krellnus wrote:deathstreak2000 wrote:Cheers Sharazad and Brother-Captain Scotti! Thanks for all the support already
A lotr day at WW would be AWESOME! Unlike you too though I live quite far away (Margate in Kent, literally the southeastern tip of England) but when at uni I'm based at Coventry which is extremely close by
Thanks for the post about my blog as well  I'll return the favour  Although I think most lotr supports are out of the woodwork already
oh and congrats on reaching the 4th page of your blog 
But if you have a lotr day at WW would it not than be Tolkein World for the day?
Loving the thread Scotti, everyone doing their own lotr blogs makes me want to do one for my corsairs, but it's my last year of high school, so I'm probably gonna have a hard time finding time :( Still at the very least I can change my location on my profile
Keep up the good threads guys!
Haha yeh I suppose it would be
Thank you very much  Like deathstreak says another would not go amiss for sure, JOIN THE LOTR REVOLUTION!!  But exams come first of course!
deathstreak2000 wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Your more than welcome buddy for both the support and the post
Well if we can time it for when your in Coventry then  I like the thought of meeting all you guys and having a few games and some fun, would be great
Thank you very much! Hopefully it will continue to grow  Though I am enjoying making this Blog so I see no reason why not
Prepping for the battle report now folks, just a little change, I will be playing a Angmar army and not all spirit based this time!!
Apart from next month when I go back for exams (I really should start revising properly...) I won't be back in Coventry until October  but I'm prepared to travel up through the summer anywho
Oh and I'm looking forward to this battle report
Krellnus wrote:deathstreak2000 wrote:Cheers Sharazad and Brother-Captain Scotti! Thanks for all the support already
A lotr day at WW would be AWESOME! Unlike you too though I live quite far away (Margate in Kent, literally the southeastern tip of England) but when at uni I'm based at Coventry which is extremely close by
Thanks for the post about my blog as well  I'll return the favour  Although I think most lotr supports are out of the woodwork already
oh and congrats on reaching the 4th page of your blog 
But if you have a lotr day at WW would it not than be Tolkein World for the day?
Loving the thread Scotti, everyone doing their own lotr blogs makes me want to do one for my corsairs, but it's my last year of high school, so I'm probably gonna have a hard time finding time :( Still at the very least I can change my location on my profile
Keep up the good threads guys!
Tolkein World!?!? Why have I never heard of this before?
Do it, Do it, Do it! I'm currently revising for exams at Uni and I was going to start the blog up later but by then I'd have probably finished it all :L
In all seriousness, another lotr blog wouldn't go amiss!
I'm sure we will sort something either way bro, but I sure do wanna organize something at some point!
I don't think I have time to write it up now but it's a cracker I think for just 250pts!!! Hope you can wait a little longer
Edit: the amount of orkicons in this post is epic
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And yee shall receive deathstreak
BATTLE REPORT NO.2: ANGMAR VS HARAD
So another fight with my Angmar and after last time I was going orc heavy. My brother after giving me a little money and then borrowing it and then some more had got 20 odd Haradrim and the command box but even with little to choose from he made a pretty solid list, here are the forces:
Angmar Warband 1:
Angmar Warband 2:
Haradrim Warband 1:
(Didn't realize how bad a shot that is sorry!)
Haradrim Warband 2:
(This ain't much better.....)
Scenario and Deployment
We rolled for which mission we would play and got 'To The Death!' (a casual roll of 1 from me  ) We then rolled to see who would set up first, Sam won and let me. My first warband rolled a 3 so I had to set it up at least 12" to the centre of the board, not a problem for me and made a block with my captain warband. Sam also had to deploy his first warband 12" to the centre and played defensive, using the ruins on the left to give a couple of archers an advantage. I than rolled and got a 6 but set up aggresively anyway on the other flank of the central ruin and made a second block. Sam set up his last Warband in two sections, because he rolled high he set up half his band, the bows, against the board edge and the other half in support of the first warband.
So in 'To the death' you earn KP's by:
Wounding the leader (1) OR killing them (3)
KIlling a banner (1) AND having one left on the field (2)
Breaking the enemy force (3) and having not broken yourself (5)
No idea why it's at this angle  but here is what deployment looked like.
Let the game begin!!
TURN 1
I won priority. Very happy with the deployment I got, the closer the better, lots of orcs and no range. Sam was a little uncomfortable with some of his bows being so close.
I literally shunted both of my blocks forward and convened them into one. It was quite evident Sam was gonna leave half his archers aside so I already had the numbers advantage. I possessed three of his bowmen by the left ruin and made a conga that his chieftan with bow would have to shoot through
You like?
Finished off by casting Fury and succeeded. Sam moves up his spearmen on the left of the left ruin and on the right ready to support the front line of bows.
I have no shooting and Sam may as well have none either, he didn't do anything the poor fella!
End of Turn 1
TURN 2
Sam's priority.
He moves back his archers that I conga'd and makes a lethal row of bows then spears backed with a banner on the right of the ruin. The spears on the left move up a little too.
I however have other ideas. I pull the bowmen all the way back out with possessions and launch into combat, a spectre, a spear and a shield orc to each one! ( I had been very lucky with 6 of 6 possessions so far!) I move up the right of the line and a move banner across slightly to support the combats I had just made.
Sam once again fails to make some effective shooting, the dice gods have deserted him!
In combat I make short work of his 3 unlucky bowmen and dispatch them in short order.
End of turn 2
TURN 3
My priority
I decided it was a make or break moment, should I hang back or keep momentum, I decided the latter and my horde lurched forward with savage glee. The spectres possessed his banner and made him run directly away from the combats I was about to make along with a spearmen who was ready support his cheiftan. I engaged all I could on the left of the ruin and left some guys ready to lap round and begin to trap people. I made a small left flank guard to hold off the 5 spears he had right of the ruins. I positioned the shaman central and my banner too, my captain joined them and bides his time. As expected Sam charges all he can on the left.
In the shoot phase Sam finally gets a kill! A 2 handed orc falls with a black shaft sticking out his temple.
I shield against his captain and win the fight pushing him back. The spectre next to this fight rips the soul from his combatant, a spearman.
End of turn 3
TURN 4
Sam wins priority - I call a herioc move but sam calls to counter and win's the roll off as I roll two ones even after getting a second chance from a draw the first time!  The Shaman now has no might.
Tactical note - I really wanted that priority, as you can see above I have driven a wedge into my brother line and really shaken him, my important people are protected from bowfire and the right flank I outnumber him greatly. Hopefully it won't damage my charge. Also I have used my shaman's one might, why you might ask? This battle will be a game of numbers, Sam has a few more guys than me but I have a little more quality in my army (spectres), when it comes down to it, my Captain will need all the killing power he can get.
His Taskmaster fails his terror and can't charge the spectre ahead. Sam is forced to charge my spectre with his cheiftan lest he wants me to control the centre of the line. A spearman on the left also fails a terror test but the rest of his other haradrim except bowmen charge. My captain backs the spectre on the left and a shield and spear help a spectre with the chieftan in the centre. All other orcs except my banner and shaman charge. There's a 4v2 on the right that looks bad for Sam, it features 2 hander as well..... Sam finishes up by moving three of his bows along the back right as to get rear shots.
Shooting is not Sam's thing, nothing again
Combat and Sam's Cheiftan is forced to use the last of his might to beat the spectre and orcs back. He also slays the shield with orc. I proceed to kill both a spearmen in the middle of the lines and on the left hand side but my captain and spectre roll poorly and a single haradrim warrior beats them back and casts the spectre back to whence it came!
End of turn 4 - The haradrim who bested the captain and spectre is nearest the white dice, we call him 'headbuttman' as when he lined him up for combat he looked as though he'd just planted a glasweigen kiss on the spectres chest  reality is he has snapped ankles the poor guy
TURN 5
Priority Me - Sam calls another heroic move and yet again fails to get the taskmasters effect so loses it all together.
Tactical note - I reckon this is a great call by my brother, he has seen he's slowed me and is determined to carry on doing so, with similar losses and a little more luck like he had last combat phase he could swing it his way especially with him choosing who fights who. I just need to keep grinding away and pushing for weak spots, I don't mind giving him priority for now as I still have numbers advantage with his bowmen staying well clear.
Sam makes all his terror tests on the centre and right and picks the fights he wants. On the left however he fails a terror test and leaves a spectre open. I charge everything I can, my captain charges 'headbuttman' and I even have a 5 on 1 on the left! Banner and Shaman central as usual.
What I didn't count on was his bows moving down my right as, though it took all of them, brought down my banner due to it's exposure at the back, a KP to Sam!
Captain kills 'headbuttman', Sam kills a second spectre with the spears on the left. Despite some awful rolling I win the 5 on 1 fight and kill the unlucky spearman. He kills the last spectre with his cheiftan but my shield orcs see off the Taskmaster.
Turn 6
Priority to me - Sam heriocs moves AGAIN! And manages to keep his might with the Taskmasters help.
He sees the gap and charges the shaman with the cheiftan and throws all his other spears and the TM into combats to protect his banner. I counter with 3 spears supporting the shaman, captain charges on the left and my right flank begins to swing round.
Shooting is well, not good poor Sam......nada.......
Captain wins his ordeal on the left and uses a might to kill both his opponents. Sam beats the Shaman and spears with his Chieftan but falls to make a mortal blow. Lone spearmen duel and Sam's comes out on top, killing his foe. I trap and cut down another spearman. And once again shielding proves it's worth as I beat back the Taskmaster once more.
End of turn 6
Turn 7
Priority to Sam
Sam has done well despite not wanting to commit his bows to combat, he has however only got 1 death left before he reaches his break point compared to my 3, I think I may have this one now......
Sam charges the shaman with his chieftan again and backs against the ruin with his banner with 2 spears and the Taskmaster for protection. My captain and as many shields and spear as I can get in join in the fight against the chieftan. I charge the spears but leave the Taskmaster well alone making him useless for the turn.
2 spearmen die from bow fire, it's a miracle!
I butcher his chieftan in combat awarding me 3 KP's. I win both other combats but shield, wanting to see the result of the last death take hold on my brothers forces.
End of turn 7
TURN 8 Sam broken.
Sam wins priority.
3 of his bowmen along the back desert him but all those within the taskmasters gaze stand fast. Sam continues a defense around the banner. I launch as many assaults as I can, I want to get this finished with me being only 1 death from my break point.
Shooting is the usual. Nothing.
TM uses the last of his might (which he does not retain) to win his fight and fails to wound! I shield in another combat, lose and the orc is killed making me broken! So much for being safe  . I use my last might with my captain to kill a spearman, I want to end this soon!
End of turn 8
Turn 9
Priority me
I stand fast and my orcs prove unusually brave. I entertain the TM with a single shield orc while I double team the banner bearer and charge the last spearman with my captain, 2 shield and 2 spear orc. 2 of Sam's bowmen flee the field of battle meaning he is below 25% now and therefore the game will end at the end of the turn.
Shooting.....can you guess?
Trapped spearman dies to the orc captain, I fail to shield against the Taskmaster but live and his banner keeps his own due to his own reroll but doesn't wound.
End of turn 9 and the game!
So who won, well here's what we got in KP's seen as they're the currency now:
Sam
- Killed my banner but his banner lived 2 KP's
- Broke himself but managed to break my force too 3 KP's
Me
- Not only wounded but killed his Leader - 3KP's
- Broke his forces but failed to remain unbroken - 3KP's
So that's 6 - 5 to me!!
ANGMAR VICTORY!!
I will write more thoughts on the battle tomorrow but I'm flagging like hell and work is fast approaching so sleep for now
Hope you guys enjoyed it!
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Post by: Noobie2k7
Great report  shame about your bros bows doing no good for him :( Did he stick with basic bowmen or upgrade them? I've found making them shoot 3+ is a massive help and makes a big difference. I'm my game my arches did a fair bit but i guess it is just luck of the dice.
Great report anyway. I hope to see him get his revenge soon
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Post by: deathstreak2000
Very entertaining! Your brother were damn unlucky with his bowmen, although I bet your banner getting sniped hurt your combats though. One thing I picked up on, and i don't mean to be a party pooper, is that your meant to deploy men in a warband no further than 6" away than their captain when they are deployed. Although this is the first battle you've had with the new missions so I'll let it slip Reading it made me want to have another battle!  Damn to my friends returning to Uni!!!! EDIT: Oh, and I didn't read you (or I missed) using any of your shaman's powers? Did I just miss this or did you forget to write it down or did you just forget to use them On that not how useful do you find the fury power? (The one that gives you a 6+ fate roll on every friendly model within 6")
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
IT'S THE HUNDREDTH POST!!
Noobie2k7 wrote:Great report  shame about your bros bows doing no good for him :( Did he stick with basic bowmen or upgrade them? I've found making them shoot 3+ is a massive help and makes a big difference. I'm my game my arches did a fair bit but i guess it is just luck of the dice.
Great report anyway. I hope to see him get his revenge soon 
I know I expected to be down a few orcs before I reached him, he rolled average and fair dice to hit I think, it was wounding even with poison he couldn't do. I mean yes he was shooting at a shield wall but he still rolled bad!
We haven't got the fallen realms yet as he couldn't afford it this month, he's getting it next month I think. That's an interesting improvement that would bring them on par with elves in my eyes, how many points does that cost?
Thanks  I'm sure he will
deathstreak2000 wrote:Very entertaining! Your brother were damn unlucky with his bowmen, although I bet your banner getting sniped hurt your combats though.
One thing I picked up on, and i don't mean to be a party pooper, is that your meant to deploy men in a warband no further than 6" away than their captain when they are deployed. Although this is the first battle you've had with the new missions so I'll let it slip
Reading it made me want to have another battle!  Damn to my friends returning to Uni!!!!
EDIT: Oh, and I didn't read you (or I missed) using any of your shaman's powers? Did I just miss this or did you forget to write it down or did you just forget to use them
On that not how useful do you find the fury power? (The one that gives you a 6+ fate roll on every friendly model within 6")
It did a little I could have done with keeping him but I didn't have a meat shield for him. I realized as I hurled all my spearmen into combat, muppet!
Now you see, that I looked for all over the flipping source book? Where is it!? It does better than where's wally
I used fury on turn 1 and that was about it as if I played it correctly once I am defeated in combat I lose the power, I can cast it again but my shaman found himself pretty much in combat after I lost it the first time. My opinion on rage? A waste a 250 (didn't save one orc!), maybe ok at 500 and with the volume orcs I would have said a must at 700. Next time I play a small skirmish I will use my second captain.
Ok so some thoughts about the game.
I was happy with the way I played I think, I get my line until it came to crunchtime and played sensible combats while shielding those that I couldn't win and waited for those favourable combats to resolve and receive back up. I used the spectres exactly how I needed too, got a head start for myself and messed with his banner and support spears, his banner proved very courageous in the end though. The one boo-boo I made was the banner, I gave him an easy 2 KP's, I should have made sure he was covered. Other than that, it is force choice for me. I NEED SOME RANGED!! I need to be able to sting the enemy a little before I reach them and also scrap the shaman at 250 he isn't worth the sacrifice in might and combat prowess that a captain has. Other than that I'm happy, just to reorganise the list then.......
Sam also played well I think, he just didn't have the dice sometimes. His protection of the banner was fantastic and even though he used his might relentlessly it kept him in the game as he tried to get into the combats he chose. He also went for my banner at the right moment (kudos) and picked of my spears supporting with pot shots. I have one huge criticism though, he gave numbers advantage, if I were him and that huge line of orcs and spectres had just crashed into and begun to overwhelm me with numbers, I would have fired as I advanced and helped out, the result of him not doing so gave me silly advantages, 5v1, 4v2, 4v1 and even more! Other than that, he played well as usual
I also have a battle later today I think so who's up for another report?
Don't know who I'm using yet so you'll have to wait and see
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Post by: Noobie2k7
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
I know I expected to be down a few orcs before I reached him, he rolled average and fair dice to hit I think, it was wounding even with poison he couldn't do. I mean yes he was shooting at a shield wall but he still rolled bad!
We haven't got the fallen realms yet as he couldn't afford it this month, he's getting it next month I think. That's an interesting improvement that would bring them on par with elves in my eyes, how many points does that cost?
Not sure if i'm allowed to put points costs up. But i'll say twice as much as a bow. It's well worth it though. Does make the archers a bit pricey but worth it as it is kinda Harads thing anyway. Automatically Appended Next Post: And i'm always up for more reports.
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If I'm thinking the amount what you've said, really? I mean no offense to you in any way whatsoever as your keen on them obviously but I just can't see that being worth doubling the cost for one fella to have shoot 3+, it makes him more than an elf and they are strength three bows with a higher fight, though I guess they lack poison. Trusty Mathammer would probably work the standard as being more efficient per point I think but to each his own  Christ I've used an army with nothing higher than Fight 3 and yet no model cheaper than 15pts
I think this one could be against Isengard as he receives my Uruks today
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Post by: deathstreak2000
If you haven't got the fallen realms sourcebook then you may have the wrong points cost for your harad guys. In the rule book I have they are 6 points with a bow/spear or whatever but in the sourcebook they are 7 with the bow etc (a lot fairer I think).
The upgrade noobie2k7 mentioned is only 2 points extra, making the guy 9 points with a bow and a 3+ shoot value. I think you may have got confused what he meant?
On the note about your brothers bowmen, I would have done the same. Not only would it have added 5 extra guys to the fight on your (right?) flank but when his force was broken they would have probably been in standfast range and not have ran away!
Yeah fury probably isn't worth it in smaller battles then (I wouldn't actually know though having never used a shaman  )
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Ah, that I didn't know, had no idea there was a points increase meaning I was 21 points down........ Oh well makes victory a little sweeter  we were wondering why haradrim and orcs were the same cost lol
Ah that's not so bad, it might be worth taking then, double points NO but 2 is quite good
Correct and correct. Yeh it would have won him the game for sure, he could have gone for my captain and pulled ahead.
On the hobby side I has no plastic glue  so no more minas tirith peoples can be built yet  guess that means either Boromirs free hand or Angmar then, or both even!
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Post by: Trondheim
What is this madness? Orcs and Harad figthing  But seriosly, great BR and hope to see more. Althou I hoped for your brother to win, you need to figth bigger battels thou
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
They wouldn't serve the dark lord due to their own agenda's so I just gave them a friendly nudge in the right direction
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it, you shall get more  Cheeky  I am planning on playing 500pts tonight with a new mission
Ok guys and gals, got a small update cos I found the plastic glue, not the one I thought of  but I found it! So that means more minas tirith! I started with what you see below:
Isildur, 15 Warrriors of Minas Tirith and 3 GotFC.
And they became this two hours later:
All the mechrite red done! Wanting to have all people done that I have to a stage where only browns and flesh tones left to do so this has helped massively, took a couple of hours to do. And now I hate Mechrite red.......
On a side note I will not be using Isildur as he is well, rubbish  He is going to be a King of Men. Also just reading his profile seems GW couldn't be bothered giving his nice armour names, he just has 'very heavy armour' to make D7, nice one GW your efforts amaze me sometimes
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Looking good! But I don't get how you paint that many models in one go!?! Would drive me crazzzyyyyy  I normally do them one at a go
How many GotFC have you got?
Oh and on your question earlier about where it says to deploy within 6" of the warband captain, look at the deploying instructions for the mission, it says there  but not on all of them because some missions everyone starts in reserve
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Post by: Noobie2k7
Yeah, sorry bout the confusion with the upgrade thing XD i still don't think 9pts a bowman is bad seeing as how useful they are. But maybe not at 250pts i dunno.
The gondor guys are looking good so far. Wish i could paint guys in bulk like you. I get so bored. I just have no patience for painting.
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Post by: Shadowbrand
Alas another glorious defeat for the Haradrim. Great battle report, but get paintin'
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Plus, i lost with harad yesterday too :(
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Post by: Shadowbrand
I've yet to score a victory. I really don't get to play often. Most days my Beastmen see the action. I also have to proxy a lot with them.
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Post by: Noobie2k7
hmmmm, it seems harad really isn;t such a good army. We've been tricked. Thinking about it i don;t think i;ve ever seen a harad battle report where they've won :O
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
deathstreak2000 wrote:Looking good! But I don't get how you paint that many models in one go!?! Would drive me crazzzyyyyy  I normally do them one at a go
How many GotFC have you got?
Oh and on your question earlier about where it says to deploy within 6" of the warband captain, look at the deploying instructions for the mission, it says there  but not on all of them because some missions everyone starts in reserve
Thanks man, trust me it ain't my usual approach I just thought  it! to be frank  Get 'em done lad!
I have 6 at the moment, don't think I'll invest in any more for a long while yet.
Yeh I found it at last!  Read everywhere but there it seems
Noobie2k7 wrote:Yeah, sorry bout the confusion with the upgrade thing XD i still don't think 9pts a bowman is bad seeing as how useful they are. But maybe not at 250pts i dunno.
The gondor guys are looking good so far. Wish i could paint guys in bulk like you. I get so bored. I just have no patience for painting.
It's a matter of preference really, they are hard to choose between for just 2 pts.
Cheers buddy, the bulk painting you see is so rare for me that that picture could almost be a figment of your imagination
Shadowbrand wrote:Alas another glorious defeat for the Haradrim. Great battle report, but get paintin'
Aye, it was a glorious one, they fought well!
Noobie2k7 wrote:Plus, i lost with harad yesterday too :(
Shadowbrand wrote:I've yet to score a victory. I really don't get to play often. Most days my Beastmen see the action. I also have to proxy a lot with them.
Hard luck guys, keep going though, it's just getting them dice to roll nice and some tactical tweeks is all
Noobie2k7 wrote:hmmmm, it seems harad really isn;t such a good army. We've been tricked. Thinking about it i don;t think i;ve ever seen a harad battle report where they've won :O
I wouldn't have said that  Their specialist troops are ace: serpent guard, abrakan guard, watchers of karna, hashrin. They have some lethal stuff and who could forget the mumak!
So the battle has finished and the dust has settled, unfortunately I need to sleep for work tomorrow so a report won't be up until sunday but I will say this: HOLY COW WHAT A HUMDINGER!!! There were crazy dice, awesome feats of combat, heroic stands and many feats of bravery! This is the best game to date so stay tuned!!
Of course you can keep on chatting too, I'll be on and off just no solid time for report is all
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Post by: Noobie2k7
Oh god how could i forget the mumak :O Probly cause most battles are fought at 500pts where you're never ever going to take one.
Shame the GW army list for harad in the getting started secton lies by showing models on the howdah when they never paid for them >.>
But i'll stick with my harad, starting to think though if i'm going to have archers with the warriors of karna upgrade i might as well go with watchers of karna with bows for same points cost + magic resistance, +2 courage against terror and +1 fight and attacks.
But you're gondor is coming along well, you don;t really need more than 6 GotFC for a decent gondor force in SBG anyway. You got any citidel guard with longbows? I've seen them be really useful.
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Yeh I noticed that they were way too much in the starter thing too! GW can't count  would make sense with the prices eh
That sounds a lot better and the conversions wouldn't be that hard neither I dont think plus the models are nice  heard good things about them
Yeh no more GotFC but ironic you should mention the citadel guard cos I'm actually buying half a dozen at the end of the month, can you read minds?  they are pretty damn good especially seen as they have elven bows  also getting a box of knights
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Post by: deathstreak2000
Knights! They're one of the things I haven't got for my army. Lances are LETHAL haha
Have you got any Rangers? Just wondering since you were selling them to me in another thread
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Aye they sure are! S5 on the charge, double attacks too! Yes please!
I haven't been selling rangers? Possibly have the wrong person mate? Automatically Appended Next Post: Haha I twigged! You meant telling you how good they are lol no but only cos my army is an armoured one for boromir, so only stuff in heavy armour really, not too competitive but I think it will be an awesome sight
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Post by: Noobie2k7
Would love to see some spells like lore of metal in fantasy then. mmmm heat metal would be a lovely spell for LotR XD
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Post by: deathstreak2000
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
Haha I twigged! You meant telling you how good they are lol no but only cos my army is an armoured one for boromir, so only stuff in heavy armour really, not too competitive but I think it will be an awesome sight 
Ahh fair enough. I'm doing a similar thing for my first 500 points but when i expand mine to 750 I'm going to add rangers with ranger guise Faramir  Your army will be a shiny sight though
Noobie2k7 wrote:Would love to see some spells like lore of metal in fantasy then. mmmm heat metal would be a lovely spell for LotR XD
Don't know much about magic in Warhammer fantasy  explain further!
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Post by: Noobie2k7
It's a spell that does more damage the heavier your armor is. But only against people wearing metal armor obviously. So great against knights or Uruks. Not so good against ents, rangers or things like that.
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Ah, would be pretty powerful then  although sounds like a lot of auto loses for dwarf army
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@deathstreak - so your going for a kind ithilien force that attack the haradrim with a mix of osgiliath in there? That would be cool, I thought about doing something like that before
Yeh they will be very shiny! No stealth for them! Clank clank
Noobie - damn that would be horrid! My army would just...... Well........ Cease to exist  but dwarves would be far worse off but I could stand to see Dain killed by his own armour, I could very stand it
Can't wait to use a computer to reply, my phone is a pain.....
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So here it is folks, the next battle report:
MINAS TIRITH VS ISENGARD 500PTS
We rolled up for the scenario and got Recon. For those that don't know that conditions, they are:
For every folk you get across the board and off your opponents board edge you get a KP
You wound the leader of the enemy, you get a KP, you kill them you get 3KP's
Break the enemy, you get a KP. End the game with enemy broken and yourself unbroken you get 3KP's
Here's the forces:
Isengard:
Warband 1: Saruman, Grima(not pictured), 3 Uruk-Hai Crossbowmen, 6 Warg riders (2 spear and shield, 4 bow)
Warband 2: Uruk Hai Captain, Standard Bearer, 6 Shield Uruks, 4 Pikes (don't remember exactly, the picture isn't entirely accurate as I helped him mod the warband above to take advantage of the pikes.
Minas Tirith:
Warband 1: Boromir, 6 GotFC, 4 spears, standard bearer.
Warband 2: King of men, 2 shields, 1 spear, 7 bows
Turn 1
Priority - Me
Neither of my warbands appeared! Great!  Robbies Uruk Phalanx on my left behind the ruin and hill but Saruman's lot didn't arrive.
Turn 2
Priority - Me
Boromirs band arrive in the centre and move up while the King's are still making their way towards the field of battle, note Grima accompanies them keeping a close eye on Boromir. Robbies Wargs explode onto the board and run hell for leather up the middle. Saruman moves onto the board on the right with the few crossbows. The Uruk Hai on the left move up through the ruins.
Using the sphere of orthanc saruman attempts to use Sorcerous Blast on Boromirs unit and fails.
Turn 3
Priority - Robbie
Everything of his literally moves forward, his wargs still playing agressive as he launches them towards Boromirs block. Sorcery at play again as Saruman Transfixes Boromir but fails to use Sorcerous Blast again. My second warband arrives! The King and the shields and spear move on left of Boromir while the bows move at half pace on their right and notch their arrows.
Shooting sees first blood as the very first shot kills a warg rider but the warg sticks around.
End of Turn 3
Turn 4
Priority - Me
Boromirs block moves up unperturbed by the warg riders with Grima skulking, the King and co on the left match the pace, while the bowmen on the right move at half pace. The warg with no rider passes it's courage and moves up with the remaining spear rider. The other wargs hang back to fire their bows. The phalanx on the left move up as usual, now half way across the board. The crossbows attempt to climb the ruins on the right but one fails and falls over. Saruman sticks with the crossbows but fails to unleash sorcerous blast again.
In shooting I kill 2 Bow warg riders, one mount stays while the other flees. Robbie doesn't fair as well and his little shooting proves ineffective.
End of Turn 4
Turn 5
One of the wargs without a rider flees but the rest stay. The failed crossbowmen from last time gets onto the ruin. In a suicidal charge the warg riders and wargs without rider launch launch themselves into the GotFC! Again the Uruk Phalanx on the left moves up the board but slightly towards the centre too. All GotFC and spear engage the wargs while the King and his handful of combat troops help against the left most warg rider. My banner moves central to help all the combats. Archers move half again.
Shooting sees a crossbow Uruk snipe the centre archer from my line. In return I target every bow at Saruman, I wound but Robbie uses a Fate and then a Might to negate it.
Before combat please note - Robbie's dice = 10000000000000 degrees centigrade
The warg with no rider beats the GotFC against it and kills it! The warg rider along from that beats the next GotFC and kills him too! Then warg rider three, to the left of the previous beats both GotFC and kills them both!! I do however manage to win the King's combat and he slays the rider and his warg on the left.
End of Turn 5
Turn 6
Priority - me
My forces have been shaken to the core by the turn of very unlikely events bearing in mind all the above combats had spear support, banner rerolls and +1 fight from Boromirs Banner. I charge all wargs to deny any bonuses to them. My archers move up again 3 inches. Saruman learnes not expose himself and hides behind the nearest ruin on the right. The phalanx on the left head in the direction of the combats.
Shooting wise I flop while robbie pincushions another archer.
I kill the left most warg with the King, the next rider along also falls and his warg flees. The warg fighting Boromir however wins combat and wound Boromir. I roll for fate and get a 2, the problem is I would need to use 4 might to save the wound due Grima so I have to take it, no way would I spend 4 might on 1W.
End of turn 6
So, so far I have lost over half my elite troops, Boromir is wounded meaning I am down 1-0 and Robbie is further from breaking than me with a full phalanx moving in on my left. It's looking pretty damn bleak. Can I swing the tide of battle? Part 2 up later!
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Post by: Noobie2k7
ooo it's looking bad for the forces of good so far. I'm pretty sure it will all turn around though XD These things usually do
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Haha well you'll find out now!
ISENGARD VS MINAS TIRITH PART 2
Turn 7
Priority - Robbie
His phalanx reforms to try and make it's way through the ruins on the left while the remaining warg charges the spearman on the far right. Sarumans magic offensive continues but fails to do anything. I swamp the warg and reform the remains of my spear block to meet the Uruk-hai offensive. The bows run toward the ruin Saruman is hiding behind to try and catch him off guard.
The crossbows claim another archer in shooting.
The warg and rider are swiftly cut down in combat, the gondorians eager to face the coming threat on the left.
End of turn 7
Turn 8 (There will not be any pictures of the crossbows/archer side on the right from now on as they are dull at best)
Priority - Me
Form my block back on the left hand side while my bowmen prepare to pounce behind the ruins on the right. Robbie funnels his phalanx down the small path between the ruin and the hill while moving some over the hill, a shield and pike now in combat with my King. Sorcerous blast once again fails to do anything.
Robbies crossbows have similar luck to sarumans and hit the tree in front of them.
The King wins combat and shreds the Uruk with shield in short order. GotFC shields against the Uruk captain and wins the combat.
End of turn 8
Turn 9
Priority - Me
I hurl, shieldsmen, Boromir, the King and GotFC all into various combats over the ruin and hill. Saruman runs from the pursuing bowmen and finally gets of sorcerous blast killing a bowmen. Pikes on the left move in to support combats.
In shooting robbie takes advantage of the archers scattered from behind the ruin and make sure one doesn't get back up.
Boromir cuts down one uruk while the King uses a banner reroll to defeat a trapped Uruk and then a might to slay the evil being.
End of turn 9
Turn 10
Priority - Me (Again!)
Boromir charge headlong into the remaining Uruk-Hai, they are nearly broken and what to get the job done, spear support there positions. GotFC charge the banner over a barricade supported by spears too. My last two bowmen pick themselves up and hide behind the ruin on the right, if I lose them I break. Saruman fails to cast SB once again so runs further from my archers and behind the far right ruin. He has pikes move in against the King and Boromir fights, while his Captain helps the banner out in the fight over the barricade.
Shooting and another bit of hot dice from robbie, three crossbows hit, three crossbows miss the tree and two of them wound the banner bearer!
The Uruk standard and captain beat back the GotFC and co but they live to tell the tale. Boromir and the King are now in their stride and cut down their foes with ease resulting in Robbie's forces breaking!
End of turn 10
Turn 11 - Robbie Broken
Priority - Robbie
He rolls for his captain so his remaining Uruks will stand fast and...........he flees, not a good turn of luck for Robbie! 2 shield Uruks and a pike follow! Saruman however stays and so do the crossbows. Saruman unleashes sorcerous blast on Boromir who resists and then casts transfix on Boromir only for that to be resisted too! Compel fails to cast. He desperately throws a shield Uruk at Boromir and backs it with a pike while dropping back his banner. A GotFC backs Boromir, while the King goes over the hill and into the Uruk standard. The pike supporting the shield fighting Boromir is distracted by a GotFC trying to come over the barricade again.
Crossbows prove ineffective.
Boromir and the King once again win their fights resulting in a dead shield and standard. The GotFC wins but fails to wound.
End of turn 11
Oh and this is the rolling for the GotFC and spears Vs Uruk standard, look at the quality......
The red is his re-roll for the banner, the yellow his original and the white mine
Robbie has hit below 25% in just one turn and so the game ends!
RESULT
Robbie - Wounded Boromir - 1KP
Total 1KP
Me - Broke the enemy and yet remained unbroken - 3KP
Total - 3KP
VICTORY MINAS TIRITH!!
Here's what Robbie had to say:
Very surprised at how well the warg riders performed and will invest in more in the future. Boromir in the end proved to great for the Uruk-Hai in the end even with Grima hampering his might, if not for Boromir the chance of victory would have been much greater. If I were to do anything different, I would have done some damage with the Wargs and then ran straight off the board edge for some easy KP's. I think perhaps that Scotti (Me) could have used his bows more aggresively and maybe risked going for Saruman or even the board edge.
Well, I think Robbie is about bang on to be honest, if he had done that with the wargs I would have struggled to make up the points to even draw! I kept my bows back though as if they both went I too would have broken and in the end lost! If I were to fight again I would play a bit more agressively with my big spear block and Boromir and move right up as to not give any easy opening for cavalry to make a dash for it. If I were Robbies however I wouldn't funnel the Uruk's down that path, you may have pikes but Boromir will still stand tall and proud! In the end it gave me the advantage and the one on one's with Boromir or the King proved too much for the Uruks.
All in all a great game that brought many laughs, cheers and smiles to the room, I hope you all enjoyed the read as much as we did playing!
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Post by: deathstreak2000
Knew you would bring it back, Boromir is just to good!
I was really surprised noone managed to run anyone off the board!? Did you both get too caught up in the fighting
Robbie was pretty unlucky with saruman! Although, if it was me, I would have been transfixing the hell out of Boromir and then I would have tried to swarm him rather than attempted S blast
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Post by: Noobie2k7
what i would have done i just swamped the main bulk of the force with my guys for distraction and just ran the warg riders off the board
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
deathstreak2000 wrote:Knew you would bring it back, Boromir is just to good!
I was really surprised noone managed to run anyone off the board!? Did you both get too caught up in the fighting
Robbie was pretty unlucky with saruman! Although, if it was me, I would have been transfixing the hell out of Boromir and then I would have tried to swarm him rather than attempted S blast
He was very good in the end as usual despite his sloppy start that put me behind. He is forgiven
I know, it hit turn 9 and I was thinking 'we have rolled recon and we need to get off the other side but we have just laid into each other and totally defied the point of what we are meant to be doing, just like the good old times in A-level maths then........'
Yeh Saruman was not good this game, he just couldn't roll with him! And when he did Boromir was having non of it. Desipte the spells being ineffective though it meant he could take Grima and I really wasn't wiling to spend might with the little bugger around hence trying to pincushion saruman earlier on.
Noobie2k7 wrote:what i would have done i just swamped the main bulk of the force with my guys for distraction and just ran the warg riders off the board
Yeh that would have been the best ploy in the end I think for him while using Saruman to pin Boromir but alas it was not to be.
The unsung hero I think in the battle was the King of Men, he never lost a fight and always killed his opponent earning himself 30pt profit!
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
Thanks for the blog Scotti! I'm learning a lot O.O
S.
P.s. off-topic: cool profile picture
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Welcome back sharazad
Well I am glad that it is educational to you, never thought of it being of that use but it is nice to know that you are learning from it.
 Thanks. I do love me paintball. The i4 mask I'm wearing is definitely rather lovely and I am soon gonna get myself a pink visor
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Welcome back sharazad
Well I am glad that it is educational to you, never thought of it being of that use but it is nice to know that you are learning from it.
 Thanks. I do love me paintball. The i4 mask I'm wearing is definitely rather lovely and I am soon gonna get myself a pink visor
Thanks good to be back ^^
I've never done paintball, always wanted to do it though, I enjoy army type games (obviously muahahaha).
Yeah it is educational, because I've not had a game before and it gives strategical insight, especially because your
description is from a persons perspective and includes thought of possible approaches, which for a Noob like me
is very useful. Don't know how applicable it's going to be but I guess I find out when I finish my guys ^^
S.
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Sharazad wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Welcome back sharazad
Well I am glad that it is educational to you, never thought of it being of that use but it is nice to know that you are learning from it.
 Thanks. I do love me paintball. The i4 mask I'm wearing is definitely rather lovely and I am soon gonna get myself a pink visor
Thanks good to be back ^^
I've never done paintball, always wanted to do it though, I enjoy army type games (obviously muahahaha).
Yeah it is educational, because I've not had a game before and it gives strategical insight, especially because your
description is from a persons perspective and includes thought of possible approaches, which for a Noob like me
is very useful. Don't know how applicable it's going to be but I guess I find out when I finish my guys ^^
S.
It's definitely worth doing, it's so much fun! True you can get hurt but no pain, no game right? I'm even in a team with my mates now and looking at a few competitions
Wow, never looked at it from that perspective and thanks that's nice of you  I hope some of it serves you well in the future  When I have complete/bigger armies I will put in more tactica and the like for people to look at.
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Post by: Noobie2k7
I used to play in a paintball team. Used to compete in london in the indoor events. Stopped a while ago though when everyone moved apart and not gone paintballing since :(
Hopefully we'll get to see your new angmar force in battle next. Hopefully a rematch with yer brothers Harad XD
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Noobie2k7 wrote:I used to play in a paintball team. Used to compete in london in the indoor events. Stopped a while ago though when everyone moved apart and not gone paintballing since :(
Hopefully we'll get to see your new angmar force in battle next. Hopefully a rematch with yer brothers Harad XD
I suggest you get off you bum and start playing again mate, you could meet another team for sure, we befriended an american lad on our 2nd visit of the year and invited him into our team by the end of the day.
Aye I would like that a lot. Just need my trackers so looking at next week, however that does give me time to paint which is always good
A small update for ye all folks, I found a Grishnahk that I bough off eBay for the princely sum of £1  And I twigged............. Captain with Bow! So I set about trying to find a plastic orc with bow lopped of the hand and cut it away until only the bow remained. Attach with super glue and you get what you see below:
A simple yet effective conversion I think because he has the hunting furs and the machete knife so will fit right in with the trackers. So hurray for Grishnahk, the usually overlooked trollop, he finally has a promotion
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Post by: deathstreak2000
Like the conversion! Did you change his sword arm as well? I swear it's normal position is above his head! It looks much better at his side though
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Yeah, i thought that too.
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Cheers fellas
His sword fits comfortably either way, it's almost as if they cast him so you could have both? No it's GW, fluke then  Got him and my other captain primed in the hope that everything else in my 250 will be painted and only the trackers to go
Oh and also may have another report coming up, after his first battle in a few years Robbie has the bug and wants another game, could play a small siege, who knows?
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Post by: Noobie2k7
That would be awesome. Don't see enough siege battles. Be an awesome read. Makes me think of my old castle i built for WFB when i were only a littleun.
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Well I have the WHFB mighty castle to use so may as well use it eh?  Was thinking about doing something a little different, evil vs evil, a fight for dominance because the old fort is good to get at 'X' settlement or something, whadya think?
On the painting side, laid down base metal and purple colours for my captains
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Post by: Noobie2k7
Sounds like a good idea to me. Be cool to see a 3 player battle. With good in the fort or castle in the middle. having the 2 evil forces fighting over something in the castle. Like having to capture something and take it off the board edge.
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
Ooooooooooooo two evil armies sieging the same castle yet they are still opposing, that would be quite cool. I already have ratios to what works force size wise with the attacker and defender
Well another friend of mine might be taking the lotr plunge so I could lend him goblins and my other buddy, robbie, using his uruks.
Cool idea noobie, see if it comes to fruition
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Post by: deathstreak2000
The sword looks better that way anyway
A siege report would be a sweet read
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Post by: GimlisonofGloin
Hey there, just signed up to the site and I am really enjoying it. Its great to see some Lotr love, great batreps you got going on here.
Just one thing about saruman, he can only do a single power in each turn, I think you played it with him doing more than once in turn11 against Boromir.
But hey its all learning.
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I noticed that as well, I forgot to say though
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GimlisonofGloin wrote:Hey there, just signed up to the site and I am really enjoying it. Its great to see some Lotr love, great batreps you got going on here.
Just one thing about saruman, he can only do a single power in each turn, I think you played it with him doing more than once in turn11 against Boromir.
But hey its all learning.
Welcome to Dakka  , there is a group of us trying to get it going here and so far we are doing pretty well. Thanks for the support  If you like yourself some LOTR you may wanna check these blogs too:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/444141.page - deathstreak2000's - minas tirith
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/442306.page - sharazads - rohan
Both are quite excellent
deathstreak2000 wrote:I noticed that as well, I forgot to say though 
Well thanks for the heads up guys, I thought/remembered that wizards could use more than one spell as long as it wasn't the same one?
I played a seige yesterday like I said I would, there is no report but I have pics and I'm sure you'll agree a couple look like utter carnage  They will posted later.
Secondly, after seeing Sharazads latest and brilliant efforts to make her rohan prettiful (and they are!) I have gone to lengths to paint my characters properly rather than speed painting them, as I feel I should really take more care with them and have seen the light of patience, thanks Sharazad  your not the only one learning! I have been painting up my bow captain/Grishnahk and I'm pretty chuffed with him so far, some little details to go and finish the base and I will post pics, maybe tonight too
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I thought the same thing a couple of weeks ago to quote the rulebook..... 'if a hero has magical powers he (should say she as well, just saying) can attempt to use one power once in any turn' tbh the wording for that is terrible. The first time I read it I wasn't sure whether it meant i could only use each power once in the game. Anyway, I'm pretty sure It only meanss one power per turn Looking forward to the pictures And her painting is pretty incredible; I'm embrassed to post my models up when I see hers Oh, and thanks for the mention/feature
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Post by: Shadowbrand
Yet another great batrep!
Glad I got to read this before I dash off to work.
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
Secondly, after seeing Sharazads latest and brilliant efforts to make her rohan prettiful (and they are!) I have gone to lengths to paint my characters properly rather than speed painting them, as I feel I should really take more care with them and have seen the light of patience, thanks Sharazad  your not the only one learning! I have been painting up my bow captain/Grishnahk and I'm pretty chuffed with him so far, some little details to go and finish the base and I will post pics, maybe tonight too
What does chuffed mean?
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spyguyyoda wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
Secondly, after seeing Sharazads latest and brilliant efforts to make her rohan prettiful (and they are!) I have gone to lengths to paint my characters properly rather than speed painting them, as I feel I should really take more care with them and have seen the light of patience, thanks Sharazad  your not the only one learning! I have been painting up my bow captain/Grishnahk and I'm pretty chuffed with him so far, some little details to go and finish the base and I will post pics, maybe tonight too
What does chuffed mean?
Happy, pleased, something positive
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deathstreak2000 wrote:I thought the same thing a couple of weeks ago
to quote the rulebook..... 'if a hero has magical powers he (should say she as well, just saying) can attempt to use one power once in any turn'
tbh the wording for that is terrible. The first time I read it I wasn't sure whether it meant i could only use each power once in the game. Anyway, I'm pretty sure It only meanss one power per turn
Looking forward to the pictures
And her painting is pretty incredible; I'm embrassed to post my models up when I see hers
Oh, and thanks for the mention/feature
Ah I see, many thanks for your knowledge mate  It kind of kills the free will that Gandalf the white get's though....... well saying that it means he never has to expend any of his store offensively
For her first batch, they are damn good, mine were no where near that standard! Maybe if we combine our quality we can come close
Edit: Good Lord a 6th page!! Thank you for your continued support!!
Any time friend
Shadowbrand wrote:Yet another great batrep!
Glad I got to read this before I dash off to work.
Glad yo enjoyed the read, hope work goes well for you!! (And not like mine at current  )
spyguyyoda wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
Secondly, after seeing Sharazads latest and brilliant efforts to make her rohan prettiful (and they are!) I have gone to lengths to paint my characters properly rather than speed painting them, as I feel I should really take more care with them and have seen the light of patience, thanks Sharazad  your not the only one learning! I have been painting up my bow captain/Grishnahk and I'm pretty chuffed with him so far, some little details to go and finish the base and I will post pics, maybe tonight too
What does chuffed mean?
deathstreak2000 wrote:spyguyyoda wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
Secondly, after seeing Sharazads latest and brilliant efforts to make her rohan prettiful (and they are!) I have gone to lengths to paint my characters properly rather than speed painting them, as I feel I should really take more care with them and have seen the light of patience, thanks Sharazad  your not the only one learning! I have been painting up my bow captain/Grishnahk and I'm pretty chuffed with him so far, some little details to go and finish the base and I will post pics, maybe tonight too
What does chuffed mean?
Happy, pleased, something positive 
Yes, what DS says, please excuse my Englishness, we tend to have a lot of words that are not slang but other nationalities have never heard of
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:deathstreak2000 wrote:I thought the same thing a couple of weeks ago
to quote the rulebook..... 'if a hero has magical powers he (should say she as well, just saying) can attempt to use one power once in any turn'
tbh the wording for that is terrible. The first time I read it I wasn't sure whether it meant i could only use each power once in the game. Anyway, I'm pretty sure It only meanss one power per turn
Looking forward to the pictures
And her painting is pretty incredible; I'm embrassed to post my models up when I see hers
Oh, and thanks for the mention/feature
Ah I see, many thanks for your knowledge mate  It kind of kills the free will that Gandalf the white get's though....... well saying that it means he never has to expend any of his store offensively
For her first batch, they are damn good, mine were no where near that standard! Maybe if we combine our quality we can come close
Well you can roll more than one dice to see if you can use a spell (If you didn't know you could do that, you probably do  ), so his mighty store of will, his free will and very low dice (comparatively) to complete spells make him one of (or the) the best wizard/spell person going
Haha well maybe, my painting it pretty bad
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Ah yeh, I remember now, so it ain't that bad after all  yeh he has very low casting values with is great
Nah man, you have some good skills, not bad at all
Ok so a small update for you all. I know that my bow captain is the last model I have started and therefore should really be the last I finish but I kinda skipped up the queue to be the first one totally done  Behold:
I took my time for once and I am very happy with the result but unfortunately the camera I use is not great, time to crack out my dad's canon 450 I think! Managed the eye's, triple highlights, red skin done to a 50/50 red/orange hue, the lot! Complete with swamp base  Well Grishnahk, you shall never be unloved again
I also promised pictures of the siege the other night, I'll add a little commentary from what I remember:
An overview
The defenders
The attackers
The attackers reach the wall. Lurtz and a captain have already had to expend their fate, will and some might to stay alive
The troll reaches the gate and scores to batter points in the first turn against it
The defenders repel the first wave, I think they won every combat this turn and killed a few Uruk's, a couple also fell to their doom
Goblins scale the wall and surprise the defenders
The defenders stand strong and to this point have only lost one combat, the hole was plugged when I won a contested heroic move and pushed the Uruks back
Gandalf finds himself in mortal combat with a captain and wins. However the goblin numbers prove their worth on the gatehouse. Tea also arrives
Uruk-hai begin to gain a foothold
The defenders are beginning to buckle
They are over the ramparts!!
I lose every combat this turn except gandalfs and boromirs if I remember correctly
Only Boromir is making any impact on the gatehouse, below him the troll is killing defenders by the handful
The attackers achieve their purpose and begin to storm across the walls to the tower and gatehouse, only a king of men and a handful of defenders stand in the way
This last turn I lost about a dozen men. The toll was beginning to show as I lost combat after combat. My rolling was not good as usual
I gave them the match as it was nearly midnight and I had work the next day  A lot of fun overall and some very silly moments with Uruk-Hai falling of ladders and such.
We also put Boromir to the test:
He took on 12 goblins, we ignored the rules, the all got fight and Boromir still came out on top! We tried it again with Uruk crossbows but I rolled bad and he fell after killing 7 of 14, had I rolled better he would have done the lot I reckon!
Hope you all enjoy the pretty pictures!
Oh and before I forget, ordering my trackers either today or tomorrow so watch this space, my 250pt competitive Angmar complete may be just around the corner!
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Post by: deathstreak2000
Your captain looks good  although there is something about his skin I just don't quite like  it looks a little bold? If you get me  maybe it's just the camera. Not that it looks bad
The siege...
Looks...
AMAZING!
Reminds me of sieges I used to do when I was young  and it looks just as hectic as well  Did the attackers/defenders have the same points or did you give the attackers more?
I still don't get why a fruit stall was selling that fort though
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Post by: Brother-Captain Scotti
He does have very bold skin but it really isn't as bold as in the picture, the purple is also more in your face in the picture. I'll have to borrow my dad's canon
It was very, very hectic. Struggled to keep track to be honest  The defenders had about 1200pts and the attackers I would guess anywhere near 2k to double the defenders, Robbie kept finding old guys and being like 'oh look, forgot I had him!' and 'would you believe it, a cave troll!'  It really is nuts looking through a collection a few years later and leaving it totally untouched.
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Post by: Trondheim
Oh damn Scotti  Now this was a batrepp to remember I dare say, it looks glorius! But we all know that Evil always wins
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In the end it does tend to sink in  It was a hell of a lot of fun, even when your losing it can be great as your men pull back across the wall to safe havens or make last stands in pockets and are slowly driven from the walls, makes me want to play another
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Yes siges are always fun. I prefer to be the defender, because its so much fun raining arrows down on the silly free people of Middelearth. Althou beeing the attacker can also be fun thou
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
Secondly, after seeing Sharazads latest and brilliant efforts to make her rohan prettiful (and they are!) I have gone to lengths to paint my characters properly rather than speed painting them, as I feel I should really take more care with them and have seen the light of patience, thanks Sharazad  your not the only one learning! I have been painting up my bow captain/Grishnahk and I'm pretty chuffed with him so far, some little details to go and finish the base and I will post pics, maybe tonight too
Awww  I feel honoured
your work looks amazing btw
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Trondheim wrote:Yes siges are always fun. I prefer to be the defender, because its so much fun raining arrows down on the silly free people of Middelearth. Althou beeing the attacker can also be fun thou
Me too, there is something about being the defender, maybe it's the acts of heroism all across the walls
Sharazad wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
Secondly, after seeing Sharazads latest and brilliant efforts to make her rohan prettiful (and they are!) I have gone to lengths to paint my characters properly rather than speed painting them, as I feel I should really take more care with them and have seen the light of patience, thanks Sharazad  your not the only one learning! I have been painting up my bow captain/Grishnahk and I'm pretty chuffed with him so far, some little details to go and finish the base and I will post pics, maybe tonight too
Awww  I feel honoured
your work looks amazing btw 
You earned it! I think your first models are superb
Cheers me dears! I am going to get better pictures of my captain though, he is too tomato like in that piccy  Sure me old man won't mind lending me his super awesome camera.
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote: Sure me old man won't mind lending me his super awesome camera.
why would he *wink* hahahahaha
Hurrah for more captain pictures!
You can also try throwing them into a simple program and tweak the colours
(Art Weaver is free and is able to do so there are a lot of programs that can help you with this)
S.
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Heroic? Im more inclied to just murder you all while you try and scale my walls. but I have known to be a bit of a douche at times when people try to murder my guys
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Those ladders are cool on how the bases fit in the slits. The battle looked fun
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Sharazad wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote: Sure me old man won't mind lending me his super awesome camera.
why would he *wink* hahahahaha
Hurrah for more captain pictures!
You can also try throwing them into a simple program and tweak the colours
(Art Weaver is free and is able to do so there are a lot of programs that can help you with this)
S.
Hahahaha, played m'lady
That is a good point though I have found a good spot! My mums chair plus craft lamp  See below for results!
Trondheim wrote:Heroic? Im more inclied to just murder you all while you try and scale my walls. but I have known to be a bit of a douche at times when people try to murder my guys
Well you know, you're just minding your own business looking awesome in your castle and then some idiot starts launching sharp things at you and waving sharp objects, what can you do eh?
Dayvuni wrote:Those ladders are cool on how the bases fit in the slits. The battle looked fun
Welcome to the Blog mate  Yeh they are very handy! They can really make the scene  It was dude, give it a go yourself!
Ok folks, here is your update, if you have been monitoring the LOTR forum section then you will know that me, trond and sharazad think Eowyn is rather nice. So what better way to appreciate her than to paint a mini! No only have I painted an Eowyn mini but it's the dress version, one of the nicest mini's in the entire range!
Feast your eyes:
Damn face wouldn't focus but fear not!
The rear (now now people  ) The shine of the varnish comes out too much in the photos, not that shiny usually, must be the bright light.
Another front shot.
Light was a little much here but the red is shown well, my photography must improve!
The best picture of her face, couldn't get it to quite focus, don't know why but I'm sure you can see the detail in the eyes and lips.
Hope this appeases you peoples, I think she's my best work yet and was an absolute joy to paint!
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
she looks stunning. Good job on finding a good camera spot with lots of light  you can see a major difference!
I think you got her skin colour pretty accurate. Are you going to highlight the dress? I like the colour.
nice, good work mister!
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Thanks S.
Yeh you can, everything is so much clearer!! I will repost my captain with this treatment too
Was really pleased with the skin, not a fan of painting pale skin as I usually fluff it so glad it came off well. The dress has had 3 highlights but I don't suppose the light has helped that, I don't do any stark highlights as I prefer a more subtle yet strong tone rather than inyourface strong if you see what I mean. Also the last highlight was about a 50/50 mix of blazing orange and blood red, anymore highlights and her dress may have become too orange and that would not have been good
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Thanks S.
Also the last highlight was about a 50/50 mix of blazing orange and blood red, anymore highlights and her dress may have become too orange and that would not have been good
Yeah I get what you're saying.
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Sharazad wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Thanks S.
Also the last highlight was about a 50/50 mix of blazing orange and blood red, anymore highlights and her dress may have become too orange and that would not have been good
Yeah I get what you're saying.
It's sometimes hard to judge when a colour is too much, so I probably stopped a little short of what I might have been able to do but I'm glad that I stopped where I did
Oh! Also forgot to mention that I'm painting up some riders, currently the six for my list I am doing combined with my Minas Tirith. Turns out that there were 10 riders in the box I picked up from the carboot (mentioned earlier in the blog) not six! So that was 10 riders for £3!  Now I just need some bases, they didn't have any.............
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awesome! I love riders ^^
Pics of the not painted models?
S.
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 Oh my...... I feel a need to do unmentionabel things with you now Scottie  Awesom work, althou the face kind a frekaed me out the first time I looked at it. But then again I only paint dudes with helms so I am no facial master
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That is an incredible paint job!! You put us (by which I mean me) to shame
Keep it up!
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Trondheim wrote: I am no facial master
I see what you did there
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At last! I managed to be funny  But seriosly, a jobb well done
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Trondheim wrote:
At last! I managed to be funny  But seriosly, a jobb well done
Made me chuckle  Cheers man, another helping follows!
So after discovering this new spot for photography with my minatures, I revisited my bow captain/grishnahk and also tried something. Turns out that because my phone is stupid it focuses more on the background so by placing an object behind it I can get focus on the face, cue a small black diary........
The rear shot ain't so good but the front shot finally shows off the detail I applied to the face, finally a happy bunny with a good photo up of him!
Also re-took a pic of Eowyn's to get the face in:
Still not great but the best photo yet for seeing the detail on the face, I will get it right!
Thought I would also show you what is happening with the current riders of rohan, not a lot but hey it's progress
They just look as though they are chilling!  Hope this appeases you Sharazad
Will try and get the red done and the metal washed tonight. Horses have to wait until I grab a few bases for them.
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Post by: spyguyyoda
Very nice. I would be proud to call that Eowyn my best work, too. I think her dress has a lot of depth, and her hair in particular is fantastic.
Well done.
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Haven't checked this for a while, good to see your still going strong. Still lots of nice LOTR work going on.
And as for that siege, well that looked like a lot of fun.
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Looks like a promesing Orc that one, too bad he has a date with a pike soon thou
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Yay! ^^ I shall endeavor to keep the excitement going!
spyguyyoda wrote:Very nice. I would be proud to call that Eowyn my best work, too. I think her dress has a lot of depth, and her hair in particular is fantastic.
Well done.
Cheers mate, very kind words! Her hair was fairly simple if I'm honest, the new yellow basecoat paint from GW (Averland I think) is brilliant, way better than Iyanden for sure.
rodgers37 wrote:Haven't checked this for a while, good to see your still going strong. Still lots of nice LOTR work going on.
And as for that siege, well that looked like a lot of fun.
Welcome back mate  Thanks for stopping by. I'm trying to keep it rolling but to be honest it's you guys that are powering it! The blog has grown 6 pages in just less than a month! So thanks for your support
Trondheim wrote:Looks like a promesing Orc that one, too bad he has a date with a pike soon thou
Ahahaha! Fighting talk sir, I challenge you to a duel! *Glove slap*
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Post by: deathstreak2000
You sure like your reds, don't you
The models are looking great though! Especially Grishnákh/Orc Captain  but he is still a tomato face
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
deathstreak2000 wrote: but he still a tomato face
rofl XD
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deathstreak2000 wrote:You sure like your reds, don't you
The models are looking great though! Especially Grishnákh/Orc Captain  but he is still a tomato face
I sure do! Don't know what it is but I have always loved painting red, started when I did my vostroyans I think waaaaaaaaaay back.
Cheers buddy, trying to keep an orcy influence in here while I paint some men/ladies up. I guess he is  Don't use sunbeds kids!!
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That's so weird, I also collected a Vostroyan army
And damn strait, too many 'good' models floating around these blogs, it's just not right.......
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Have you been watching me?
I know! They just saunter in like 'look at me I'm all shiny and play nice........', Disgusting
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.......Well.......
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deathstreak2000 wrote:.......Well.......
Thought I saw someone in the bushes last night..........
Small update folks, look what arrived!!
The trackers are here so now I have all the components of my competitive 250 pts Angmar force! Huzzah!
On the KoM front, I have done a couple of highlights on the Riders and also done the white too, not enough to show though so you'll all have to wait
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As promised here is some pictures of the riders progress:
So where am I up to? I have done the red except one last highlight (left in case I need to tidy up), need to highlight browns, need to wash hair and re-highlight, need to start the skin, bracers need starting and golds burnishing and also wood painting. Going to go with a real pale wood, probably about bleached bone in hue then a wash and re-highlight. Forgot how hard work these guys are!! Batch painting seems horrible now but I will be glad of it when I am done, painting each one individually would have been a nightmare!! Also glad I only have these guys to paint up for me 500pt KoM army (riders wise that is, plenty elsewhere  ) !
Here's a close up of a rider, I like this pose a lot
Critique peoples?
Really wanna carry on painting but my bed is calling, hopefully have some more pics up tomorrow with almost finished riders. I shall try my best! Night all
Edit: Almost forgot! I bought a couple of the little LOTR ruins off eBay for £1.20 each with that mag you used to get, bargain!! Shall try my hand with scenery soon!
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Great looking minis, I wish I could paint like that. You mentioned having all the components for your fully competitve Angmar list, well done, but do you find Angmar lacking in the form of might and always being out heroic moved ect.
Would be great to see you army in a competitve enviroment, I also have an Angmar force but it consists of loads of cheap orcs backed up by wights and spectres, although it is now at around 750points, I would like to expand it to 1k if I get a chance.
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
You're a  you know that....
Painting so  Damn well and so  damn quick
:p
No seriously I told Panic this... I'm jealous xD well done!
Looking forward to the rest
S.
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GimlisonofGloin wrote:Great looking minis, I wish I could paint like that. You mentioned having all the components for your fully competitve Angmar list, well done, but do you find Angmar lacking in the form of might and always being out heroic moved ect.
Would be great to see you army in a competitve enviroment, I also have an Angmar force but it consists of loads of cheap orcs backed up by wights and spectres, although it is now at around 750points, I would like to expand it to 1k if I get a chance.
Wow! That's really kind, thanks  but i am sure you have some painting skill of your own that can make others applaud too!
A good subject. Angmar is, in my opinion, the hardest pure evil army to play (angmar only force). With the fewest options and the hardest combination of heroes to use I have ever seen they are a pain  You mention the might situation and your not wrong, the best way to get might on the field for these fellas is to just spam captains, that's it! You can play Bhurdur but only with at least another two trolls to help with incoming fire. The gift that GW has given us that we all overlook as Angmar players is the Dwimmerlaik. His power is quite frankly, brilliant: If within 12" of a enemy hero who uses a might/will/fate, on a 4+ they must expend two or the deed in cancelled and the already committed point is lost. Beautiful! Captains are now null in 50% of cases and even poor Boromir unless he can fight his way to him is severely affected. Think about using him in your force.
I would love to play some competitive SBG but I don't know any tourneys for it except GT
Sharazad wrote:You're a  you know that....
Painting so  Damn well and so  damn quick
:p
No seriously I told Panic this... I'm jealous xD well done!
Looking forward to the rest
S.
Cheers Sharazad  I now do batch painting like you suggested so that's where the speed has come from, it's so much better, you just gotta get the discipline and I really didn't have it!
Here's some more
I have managed to get some more done on these guys, the wood has a basecoat and the browns need a final highlight other than that there is just the skin to go over I think and we are done with them! Just need some bases for the poor horses!
And here he is, almost complete, Eomer, Marshall of the Riddermark!
The red's look awful on these pics but I assure you they are nice and neat and highlighted up to 50/50 orange/red. Just the horse left to do here and the base. Need to highlight the grey coat again and then proceed to the reigns and saddle. A couple of days and I'll be there!!
On the angmar front I have started to go over the tracker and will base and spray them over the next couple of days. Believe it or not I am really quite close to having a fully painted 500pt Good force and a fully painted 250pt Evil Force. Looking forward to the time when I can post pics up of them complete!!
As always, more to come
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
I really love it. lol Panic said: 'so now you're going to make your horses blue?' me:'nooo.... but I want to'
Well done Scotti it's awesome *proud*
S.
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Awwww bless your socks  Blues horsey FTW!  Only Eomer's shall have permission in my army lol
Ta very much ^^
I shall try and get something else up at some point today  Maybe Eomer finished and finish my Minas Tirith Warband, a big ask but just maybe....... Automatically Appended Next Post: Also can't believe that I haven't posted one of these yet!
Obligatory pic FTW!!  Yes all I have is that little lap desk and a lid. It's all I need
Also in other news I have just based and sprayed 14 Rohirrim warriors. Batch painting in excess here I come!!!!!!
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Evening folks,
So today i thought I would try for the very first time stripping some models. I painted some awful  when I was younger but hey gotta start somewhere. So for this I used some Acetone free nail polish remover and sat them in it for 15mins and then went at it with a 99p tooth brush, firm bristle, from Morrisons.
And here's the result!
I think I can say that it was a resounding success  look almost new now
Now why high elves you ask? Well, I watched the FotR t'other day and I really really really want ranks of the fella's like in the last alliance they are so cool and organised, the bit with the battle lines meeting is awesome with their smooth martial prowess!! Also I saw some cheap on ebay  I now have the following:
Elrond in heavy armour
Glorfindel in armour (conversion coming for him)
Captain in heavy armour (soon to be converted from spear elf)
11 elves in heavy armour w/ sword
12 elves in heavy armour w/ bow
2 elves in heavy armour w/ spear and shield
For those enjoying the Rohan and Minas Tirith, don't worry I will finish what I have started first! Angmar will be an ongoing thing  Ah and on the Rohan note, now batch painting 14 models  mechrite red is down so now to do some silver and such.
So what you think of my little elf revolution? (Might end up being quite big  )
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I love Eldron, I love elves  thumbs up!
On the Rohan note... pics or it didn't happen
S.
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Me too!! Really looking forward to laying down an army of these folks later on  I am actually planning on having around 1500pts of these guys to play with for a proper 'Last Alliance' force. Currently trying to get hold of Gil-Galad, a command group and another 50 odd plastic elves  and then I want another 12-15 shield'n'spear elves  may have finally lost it! Though they are not hard to paint I don't think nor time consuming, I will batch paint in like 30's seen as they are decent to paint. Once my ebay lots arrive I shall begin!! The lot in the photo above are already primed and based ready to begin, may paint one first to test a scheme though it will be the classic blue/gold, I want to get it right first
Fair enough  I'll have them up later, hopefully with base silver done too
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Post by: GimlisonofGloin
How did the acetone free work, I thought it might of melted the plastics and lost the detail. Now I know it works I'll be using some for sure and getting some of my minis painted, you really do inspire people to get up off their arse and paint.
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Sharazad wrote:On the Rohan note... pics or it didn't happen 
Here's you proof  glad I'm getting them done at the same time!
GimlisonofGloin wrote:How did the acetone free work, I thought it might of melted the plastics and lost the detail. Now I know it works I'll be using some for sure and getting some of my minis painted, you really do inspire people to get up off their arse and paint.
I think it does if you leave it in for too long, I could feel the plastic weaken when I took it out the acetone free, but seemed fine after a wash down with water and left to sit for quarter of a hour  Cheers man, I try my best and really it's just paid in kind seen as all you guys support spurs me on to paint more and more! I hope we keep this cycle going
On an elven front, got a delivery today or Elrond and 20 elves!! They are gathering!
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A small update for you folks,
I have got round to painting the test scheme for my elves, they are pretty much the original scheme but I wanted them that way, it suites them down to the ground
Here he is:
The pics are a little dark so I will try to have more on later. I think he turned out really well, I'm pretty happy with him. Tried to weather the bottom of the cloak to make it look a tad dusty too.
Paints wise, the new Kantor Blue base coat from GW is awesome to be honest, can't say I enjoy paying for it with the price tag but who does? I worked that up to enchanted blue. Also invested in my first Vajello Model Colour paint - Basic Skintone. Got to say I am impressed at the quality of the paint and the dropper system, I think I will head their way in the future for new armies perhaps.....
In regards to the model missing a hand, he is to become a captain so I will be giving him some form of glaive when I can.
Cheers for looking and C&C is always welcome
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Post by: GimlisonofGloin
The blue looks great, I dont think there are may paint schemes that suit the elves very well. When I get round to doing mine im going to do them in a purple colour.
Also I think vajello are the best paints anyone can use, they are affordable and go a really long way when doing batches of minis. I dont think ill be using the new Gw paints they seem to aimed towards having to buy more and more due to the layering.
I could be wrong though, we will have to see.
Cant wait to see your finished army.
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GimlisonofGloin wrote: I dont think ill be using the new Gw paints they seem to aimed towards having to buy more and more due to the layering.
I could be wrong though, we will have to see.
Depends on how thick you use the paint, and which colours you use ofcourse. But they are based on the three colour paint
scheme thing (base,ink,highlight). My problem tends to be that the jars are so ridiculously small (but then again, I'm just not
used to miniature painting yet).
I do like a lot of the colours, but sometimes it's hard to pick which colour you want exactly. But concerning base coverage they
, at least for me, work really well.
S.
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GimlisonofGloin wrote:The blue looks great, I dont think there are may paint schemes that suit the elves very well. When I get round to doing mine im going to do them in a purple colour.
Also I think vajello are the best paints anyone can use, they are affordable and go a really long way when doing batches of minis. I dont think ill be using the new Gw paints they seem to aimed towards having to buy more and more due to the layering.
I could be wrong though, we will have to see.
Cant wait to see your finished army.
Thank you very much  No there ain't and I love them in the first movie so for once I stuck to the original scheme.
Aye, usually I do use GW but thee skintone I got is very pale yet the coverage is fantastic, you won't get that with GW! unless they brought out a base I haven't seen that is.
Well hopefully I won't take too long!
Sharazad wrote:GimlisonofGloin wrote: I dont think ill be using the new Gw paints they seem to aimed towards having to buy more and more due to the layering.
I could be wrong though, we will have to see.
Depends on how thick you use the paint, and which colours you use ofcourse. But they are based on the three colour paint
scheme thing (base,ink,highlight). My problem tends to be that the jars are so ridiculously small (but then again, I'm just not
used to miniature painting yet).
I do like a lot of the colours, but sometimes it's hard to pick which colour you want exactly. But concerning base coverage they
, at least for me, work really well.
S.
I don't hate the size, I hate the lids!  why they took the little catches off the foundation paints I will never ever know!
I have just sprayed Elrond and 8 glaive elves, hope to have pics up later
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Sooo true, I really hate those lids... I've spilled so much of my new paints because of those bastards
Tried and opened it and a lot spilled down the back... which was super evil
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I hear you, the bloody things mean I have lost many a pot of wash and i's extra painful when it's badab black!! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!
On the hobby front, I had a very, very productive afternoon yesterday! I'm at my accounting course at the moment (  ) so no pics but will have them up later. Taken to batch painting Elrond, 11 glaive elves and 2 spearmen and their shields. Got the basic blue, gold + wash, base brown, base silver and base flesh done. In theory I don't have a lot left to do, a few highlights to do and maybe a wash or two and they will be done. That will be HALF the elves I have so far done  Elrond does have a little more to do but he's at the same stage as the rest (green and red bits to do).
In other news I am meant to be seeing Robbie tonight and we want to play a game, THAT MEANS A BATTLE REPORT!!! Probably about 500pts, so watch this space
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Any more post and updates to come on this blog?
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I did not dare to ask that question, but am certainly interested in the answer ^^
S.
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Post by: Drumstick
Oh another lotr blog! Good work on the Rohan, they are coming along well and I like the colour scheme you picked. Your name rings a bell, think I spoke to you on my other thread - I'm Ringwraith previously. Look forward to seeing more!
Drum
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I return!
GimlisonofGloin wrote:Any more post and updates to come on this blog?
Sharazad wrote:I did not dare to ask that question, but am certainly interested in the answer ^^
S.
Sorry folks, burn out majorly with warhams last week, just couldn't be arsed to touch it :( I don't know why, maybe three armies at once, meaning 30 guys to paint simultaneously is the problem lol
BUT I SHALL STAND TALL AND DEFEND THIS BLOG FOR ALL I AM WORTH!!! (the simple answer is yes lol)
I would however like to apologize for my sudden disappearance, it ain't cool when your expecting results! So sorry peoples
Drumstick wrote:Oh another lotr blog! Good work on the Rohan, they are coming along well and I like the colour scheme you picked. Your name rings a bell, think I spoke to you on my other thread - I'm Ringwraith previously. Look forward to seeing more!
Drum
Thought I had seen that avatar before, your the dude with the epic helms deep! You still got that?
Cheers for the support!
I have a couple of battle reps on the way and some pics of painting progress, men and elves alike!
See you soon! (and you will, I promise!)
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Whats this? Pansy elf's and blue horses! KILL THEM ALL! Anyhow looking good as always.
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Afternoon y'all!
Yes that's right I have returned now my lazy ass has got itself into gear. And with something new because apparently I didn't have enough to finish.........
So my little bro left for uni the other day (very proud  ) and I wanted to paint some of his dwarves, what he is probably going to find out via this message here is that he is going to have a 500pt dwarven list to come home to by christmas! (sometimes us older siblings are quite nice  ). I figured he wouldn't have time to do it with all his work and stuff going on so hey, why not!
Anyways enough yapping, some pics.
So here's the first batch that I have done. I went for rugged yellow, mainly cos it ain't too bright and it looks somewhat manly, almost mustard like  Also for the first time ever I am using a white undercoat! Now I understand why people use it, it is a lot easier to see what your actually painting and you get the true representation of the colour imho. They were a lot of fun to paint and only took a few hours (only.............  ). My noobishness does show a little with this basecoat though as I have noticed a couple of bits of white peeping through which is a tad annoying but I will rectify it later!
Oh and the tower shield for the VW team is coming soon!
And here is what I am doing now! Durin, a Khazad Guard and some warriors. He needs a badass hero and with his Dain wandering the shadows of his old bedroom somewhere this fellow will step up to the plate! To be fair he is better than Dain!
Also my bro only has a single intact Khazad Guard so I thought I would whip him up and besides they are just about the best sculpts and designs in the game! (Behind spectres and high elf spearmen)
When the second lot is done, he's up to 274pts so well on the way! Got some plastic dwarves to get done and also Durin's faithful bodyguard, Mardin!
IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK!
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Post by: Dr. What
You're alive!!!!
Nice dwarves, I really like the yellow on them. They're such awesome models.
Of course, I hate them in game, as they never seem to die...
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Yup I sure am
Thanks dude! My bro is chuffed with them so it's a good start  the next lot has been started and I'm half way through them. Also the tower shield for the vault warden team has been completed. I will hopefully have pics up tomorrow!
In other news, I lost the battle against shiny syndrome and picked up a box galadhrim......oops....... I just couldn't help it, no other army had the same impact on me as the elves at helms deep, the organised, calm, martial prowess as they despatch endless uruk-hai with only a few hundred! Once again I have tried something a little different when painting them and this time they are being painted on the sprue. I have the blue and red on then completed and have started the browns.
Pics for both the elves and the dwarves will be up tomorrow hopefully.
The other really cool thing is there is a warband tournament next weekend at my GW so I will be taking the galadhrim along with legolas to see what I can do! The result will be posted next weekend
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Evening folks!
So here is where I am up to on the next lot of dwarves:
Now I am enjoying doing these but I'm not doing so great with the white undercoat, why does it like to tease me so between the gaps in mini's!!
These dudes are about half done with only some highlights, a wash or two and the boots in general to go, I would like them done by the end of the week.
And then there's:
Sorry about the crap quality but pics or it didn't happen eh?
Not that you can tell from the photo but the red and blue is done totally, I have laid a base of brown and have now begun to lay down a base of gold as you can tell. I NEED them done by Friday so will see some definite progress on these fellas.
Also I am having them themed on Helms Deep so I am going to try and make some special bases for them!
And I will have legolas and a banner bearer on the way in the next few days to accompany them into battle next weekend!
That's all for now but will have more to show and tell over the next few days!
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Interesting. I've never done painting on sprue, but I suppose it works fairly well for LotR models.
Interesting color scheme as well.
Pity GW halved the number of models in a box (better for Warbands, not for the wallet).
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
You're such a nice brother and such a good painter  glad to see you back on the grid mate ^^
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Dr. What wrote:Interesting. I've never done painting on sprue, but I suppose it works fairly well for LotR models.
Interesting color scheme as well.
Pity GW halved the number of models in a box (better for Warbands, not for the wallet).
I feel it does intially but when you get to stage where most of the big colours down I assembled them to see where I was at
Your not wrong, £15 for twelve is pretty criminal really, I outright refuse to buy any other warriors firsthand from GW but galadhrim are real beauties!
Sharazad wrote:You're such a nice brother and such a good painter  glad to see you back on the grid mate ^^
Haha thanks Shara! Very kind words! I have to balance being nasty to him so what better way than by doing something I enjoy
It's good to be back, now I've got going I'm loving it again!
Ok so tonight I will slap up some pics of the galadhrim that are nearly there, more progress on the dwarves and maybe a prototype scenic base for the galadhrim in my first attempt at sculpting!
Till then, take it easy
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How do you remove the mold lines without taking a model from a sprue? O.o
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storag wrote:How do you remove the mold lines without taking a model from a sprue? O.o
I didn't have to do a lot to be honest, the sprues are quite roomy and the lotr models are generally very good when it comes to mold lines
Ok so pictures time!
Pretty happy with these dudes but there is obviously some cleaning up to do! I will get onto 'perfecting' after the weekend and the mini-competition, this will include general touch-ups (no..... lol), a few better highlights, perhaps a wash and if I really want to torment myself, some eyes  particularly on the dude without the helmet.
I haven't had chance to do anything else tonight. I figure I can have the other six and the banner done by Wednesday and Legolas will painted on the morning of the competition. The special bases will be done around Wednesday-ish too.
And then there's the dwarves which I will devote thursday evening to me thinks
And somewhere else in between I have to paint a limited edition chaplain to the highest standard for 40k  what a schedule..........
As always C&C is always read appreciated and replied to!
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Post by: Dr. What
I like them! My only thought would be purple instead of red, but the red works very well too!
Awesome poses on the models as well. Galadhrim and Wood Elves put the Last Alliance models to shame.
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Damn ( there so many cool models and so little time... I'd love to play some fantasy warfare but just can't figure what to choose... This models must be of really great quality if there are no mold lines. Something to consider
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Dr. What wrote:I like them! My only thought would be purple instead of red, but the red works very well too!
Awesome poses on the models as well. Galadhrim and Wood Elves put the Last Alliance models to shame.
Cheers man! Yeh that would be a cool option. I only went with red because I did a few of the metal ones ages ago so I stuck with it.
They sure do  I still love them too though!
storag wrote:Damn ( there so many cool models and so little time... I'd love to play some fantasy warfare but just can't figure what to choose... This models must be of really great quality if there are no mold lines. Something to consider
There a couple here and there but a gak load less than 40k or warhams. I think there a couple of quality issues with a couple of kits but other than that they are generally fantastic imho!
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How did the warband event go?
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Post by: EleanorUmbra
Over 7000 views mate! Awesome
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Post by: YELLOWBLADES
Amazing!, i really love the models
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I sure am awful at keeping this blog going :(
Dr. What wrote:How did the warband event go?
It errr... didn't in the end, I didn't have everything ready which is a shame and I still haven't finished the dudes! Shame on me :(
Sharazad wrote:Over 7000 views mate! Awesome
Cheers Sharazad, any progress in your camp? Hypocritical I know
YELLOWBLADES wrote:Amazing!, i really love the models
Thanks very much! I do not believe I have seen you here before, so welcome!
Just a message for those of you who watch this thread, I am trying to find the time to paint some LOTR however with other projects, 30k night lords and also my Accounting course getting in the way it is very slow progresss, think I
have laid down one coat of paint on five dwarves in the last 2 months  However seen as I am painting my bro's dwarves for christmas there WILL be updates to come and I do have all my forces to finish so fear not if you want your
fix! I hope to have some pics next week
Cheers for your understanding folks
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Lol no, i did mention in the blog that nothings going to happen for a bit. Got to much stuff going on atm to focus
but thanks for the boost it does help to know people want to see stuff (poke poke *looks your way*)
S.
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Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:Nice you could join us
Dr. What wrote:I must say:
I'm inspired by the idea of an all ghost list.
I think I'm going to tinker with one, maybe with a wraith in it.
It's one that would be a lot of fun, no doubt about it, the manipulation of your enemies army is as good as it gets and even when your opponent has priority you can find yourself still in control of the game  Do it sir! Or I will guinea pig it and see how it does and relay feedback ?
Commander Cain wrote:Liking what I see! I own most of those models and know what a pain some of them can be to paint what with everything blending into each other. The purple paint scheme looks great, I love the banner especially.
I was sooo close to starting an Isengard army myself, what with all those pikes and whatnot.  Unfortunately, the price increase in the models made my mind up and I went back into the grimdark future to paint some moah mareenz!
Keep up the good work!
Cain
Cheers buddy!
I should have the banner done soon so hopefully you will like it even more finished
If that's the case I have an small ton of Uruks that I don't use and I'm not really a fan of anymore, I can see what I got and send you a pm? I don't want a lot for them
I'll try!
Dr. What wrote:Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:
A brittle army to be sure and no doubt I will be outnumbered but the combination of abilities is brutal. There are 20 models that can control another model if they fail courage, there are two that paralyze anyone on a 4+ (unlimited uses in the game, once per turn though)
I'm impressed by this list and tinkering with a similar one, but don't barrow wights have a limited amount of will? or did they change that in the new sourcebooks?
No, you're correct it has 5 will, didn't see the will stat  but still it's pretty good and I will still take them for 50pts a piece. That should be enough though to either:
1)hamper a shield wall
2)hamper a very strong combat hero
3)tie up a powerful wizard
All three represent a real problem for the enemy, a pair mean 10 paralyze attempts. Not to be trifled with.
So I have just undercoated the remaining spectres and I am hoping to have all the basecoats of purple, skin (well ghostly skin  ) metal and the weeds done. And the I would like to get the purple highlights done, the metal washes and the skin done today. Finished the eyes and the weeds would be a bonus, let's see if I can work fast enough. Also nearly done my barrow wights so they'll be up if a few hours with them.
More later today!
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Ok folks as promised here is some of the current painting,
Barrow Wight No.1. I like this model more than the other to be honest, the pose is nicer. Went for the same look as the spectre's but gave them brighter eyes to hopefully show that they possess more than just undeath, they have a active mind still if you will.
Barrow Wight No.2. Not a bad model I suppose but still I like the other better  other thing about my BW's they have grey hair not the white you expect from a really old being as I thought grey looked more 'deathly' on them and white may be too bright for the army, actually that sounds stupid given I have nearly lilac orcs  more the wrong kind of bright perhaps?
One thing I can tell you is batch painting spectres ain't a lot of fun but I wanted to get some really good updates for you guys so I am making myself do it  Done the base purple, skin and metal. Next will be gold on the elven spectres, tarnish all the metals, next skin highlight and then the undercoat for the trailing weeds
I will try and have another two picture updates today but I can't promise anything due to time constraints, I'll try my best
Also later will be some tactica for the spirits in my army and also a small discussion on army choice for an upcoming event .
So guys, please C&C away and I'll be back shortly
Those eyes...So evil..How did you paint them?
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