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Post by: MadCowCrazy
Maybe it's just me but I think their postage is a bit too high for my tastes...
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Post by: Sidstyler
MOAR razorback turrets and dread autocannons? Wasn't that already a pretty saturated market to begin with?
Also loving the not-so-subtle name and the totally-not-the-Imperial-eagle symbol.
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Post by: kenshin620
Heh, I just noticed, they're Polish. Kroot will be very happy to see their space orcs I bet
Sidstyler wrote:MOAR razorback turrets and dread autocannons? Wasn't that already a pretty saturated market to begin with?
Also loving the not-so-subtle name and the totally-not-the-Imperial-eagle symbol.
Yea, I must admit it is pretty darn overdone
But I do hope their other "ranges" do get filled out, like their cybercrons
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Post by: BrookM
Oh boy, the mother company itself is called "Cytadela"
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Post by: beezley1981
Sidstyler wrote:MOAR razorback turrets and dread autocannons? Wasn't that already a pretty saturated market to begin with?
Also loving the not-so-subtle name and the totally-not-the-Imperial-eagle symbol.
Yea, that's the one really awesome thing about GW. They've taken so much of their lore and iconography from history, other companies can pretty much add any of GW's icons on their own bits, and it be totally legal...assuming they call it something else of course.
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Post by: Kanluwen
BrookM wrote:Oh boy, the mother company itself is called "Cytadela"
And they're Polish...
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Post by: Azazelx
Those aren't bad at all. Quite nice sculpts, reasonably priced, and the postage is reasonable from my perspective.
Except.... I've already got a ton of GW Razorback turrets, and plan to buy a bunch of Puppetswar ones. I might just get a couple, anyway.
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Post by: Shepherd23
I thought the double headed eagle was one of the few GW original designs. I could be wrong. I haven't bothered to research every item GW has ripped from history and then sent C&D's because they think they own it because they stole it first.
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Post by: kenshin620
Shepherd23 wrote:I thought the double headed eagle was one of the few GW original designs. I could be wrong. I haven't bothered to research every item GW has ripped from history and then sent C&D's because they think they own it because they stole it first.
The double-headed eagle is a common symbol in heraldry and vexillology. It is most commonly associated with the Byzantine Empire, the Holy Roman Empire and Russia~Wikipedia
Though the heavily angled Double Headed Eagle is pretty much "The GW" Double Headed Eagle imo. Everyone else usually have curves
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Post by: Aerethan
$11 for a pair of auto cannon dread arms is a good price, and they don't look half bad.
I'll likely use them whenever I get around to adding a second dread, as my current FW one has FW cannons.
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Post by: ShumaGorath
Sidstyler wrote:MOAR razorback turrets and dread autocannons? Wasn't that already a pretty saturated market to begin with?
Also loving the not-so-subtle name and the totally-not-the-Imperial-eagle symbol.
These are the first autocanon dread arms I've yet seen that aren't terrible. The pred weapons are pretty nice as well.
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Post by: SagesStone
I like the ammo feed on the assault cannon one.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Oh, these are lovely. The shipping is a bit more than I'd like, but if you can split an order with a buddy or two...
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Post by: Rayvon
They look decent and quite cheap too, shame i have so many turrets already, also i have never been a fan of videos made up of stills !!
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Post by: RiTides
This is nice... I wish all the cool bits makers weren't in poland  (why is that, by the way?)
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Post by: Charax
Aside from those walker autocannons, it's basically Puppetswar Mk2. Not at all impressed, and I'm actually not a fan of the aquilas on everything.
On the other hand, I do like the walker autocannons, and it looks like he has a nice big range planned, worth keeping an eye on.
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Post by: Kroothawk
kenshin620 wrote:Heh, I just noticed, they're Polish. Kroot will be very happy to see their space orcs I bet
Only a matter of time until they release cartoonish "German Orks" with and without gas masks
It is always the third on any Polish conversion parts to-do-list after Razorback turrets and Dreadnought arms.
I should really do an extensive link list with "Polish conversion resources for Germany haters" some time in the future.
Edit: And yeah, calling your company Forge Planet by Cytadela is asking for legal trouble.
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Post by: warpcrafter
If the release full german orcs kits with greatcoats and shoota-type weapons, I will buy them. Loads of them.
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Post by: Gamble
I'm excited to see what they have planned for Terrain. I'd love to get my hands on a Wraithbone defense line with Super scatter lazer defense turret.
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Post by: Breotan
Great. 3rd part turrets I'd actually buy come out after Razorbacks have been pretty much relegated to cold storage by 6th edition. :(
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Post by: catharsix
Breotan wrote:Great. 3rd part turrets I'd actually buy come out after Razorbacks have been pretty much relegated to cold storage by 6th edition. :(
Seriously. I finally have actually managed to amass (at relatively minimal cost) enough standard GW SM vehicle Razorback turret bits sets to make every variant, and now, they're pretty much worthless on the tabletop. My Angels Encarmine are going to become a Descent of Angels force, or whatever other potential list is not completely nerfed by 6th Ed.
I may end up building and painting a vehicle or two, but since I'm trying to prioritize models that I plan to field, Rhinos/Razorbacks/Predators just got sent to the back of the assembly/paint queue. I'm not super-competitive, but I don't want to get crushed every game either...
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Post by: Commander Cain
Forge planet, come on guys, get creative here! Nonetheless, they have quality products and as soon as they come out with something I might actually want I might just get it! Turrets and AC arms seem to have been done to death already but these are right up there with puppet's war and others.
$10 shipping is not all that bad so long as they come out with enough stuff that I would actually make the effort to buy from them, given the quality of the stuff we have seen I have high hopes for them!
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Post by: The Dwarf Wolf
Those are the first razor turret alternatives that i see, like and dont get overdone on the price. Pretty nice. The lines are very technological, and made remember tau somewhat...
I only need 2 of those anyway
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Post by: Brother Axel
Nice Imperial Insignia... MY GW LAWSUIT SENSES ARE TINGLING! Also, what's this about Razorbacks being worthless? Combat Squading now means two Razorbacks per Tactical Squad with a heavy/special weapon in each plus the upgrades for the Razorback. Marine with Lascannon + Razorback with Lascannon with Twin-Linked Plasma Gun... PEW PEW PEW. Plus the Lascannon can snap-shot whilst the Twin-Linked Plasma Guns Rapid Fire as normal at Combat Speed or Snap Shot Lascannon at Cruising Speed, whilst moving to flank. Useless? I guess it depends on play-style but I intend to be spamming Razorbacks on my flanks to draw fire as well as dish it out in return.
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Post by: insaniak
Brother Axel wrote:Combat Squading now means two Razorbacks per Tactical Squad ...
I suspect you may have misunderstood something, somewhere along the line. Because Combat Squads don't alter the number of transports the unit can buy.
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Post by: Breotan
And at such a low armor value, they get glanced to death by a strong wind.
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Post by: d-usa
Maybe GW wrote the 6th edition rules to hurt the 3rd party guys.
"Boss, the third party people keep on making nicer turrets and dread arms than us, what can we do?"
"Easy, we make vehicles suck!"
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Post by: Miguelsan
Kroothawk wrote:kenshin620 wrote:Heh, I just noticed, they're Polish. Kroot will be very happy to see their space orcs I bet
Only a matter of time until they release cartoonish "German Orks" with and without gas masks
It is always the third on any Polish conversion parts to-do-list after Razorback turrets and Dreadnought arms.
I should really do an extensive link list with "Polish conversion resources for Germany haters" some time in the future.
Edit: And yeah, calling your company Forge Planet by Cytadela is asking for legal trouble.
Actually GW needs to register that as a trademark in Poland first don´t you think, having Citadel as a TM in the UK doesn´t mean they get the same rights to that word in all the languages of the world.
And +1 to the orks in greatcoats, I would embrace the ally rule wholehearted if I could use soviet ork mobs.
M.
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Post by: Centurionpainting
Miguelsan wrote:
Actually GW needs to register that as a trademark in Poland first don´t you think, having Citadel as a TM in the UK doesn´t mean they get the same rights to that word in all the languages of the world.
And +1 to the orks in greatcoats, I would embrace the ally rule wholehearted if I could use soviet ork mobs.
M.
International copyright law says differently. This is why I can't come out with my own "Coke" drink and label it like the real Coca-Cola.
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Post by: Miguelsan
Read closely, I say they hold Citadel as a TM, do they have also a TM then to 城塞 in Japanese, Ciudadela in Spanish, معقل in Arab, etc etc? I don´t think so.
Plus big marks used to have to register their TMs in all the countries they wanted to hold a TM but then I admit that I´m behind my TM laws (that were in Spanish Law and years ago).
M.
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Post by: CURNOW
ah this again ... :]
nice dread arms tho ..
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Post by: Kroothawk
warpcrafter wrote:If the release full german orcs kits with greatcoats and shoota-type weapons, I will buy them. Loads of them.
Miguelsan wrote:And +1 to the orks in greatcoats, I would embrace the ally rule wholehearted if I could use soviet ork mobs.
M.
So two Polish companies selling German Greatcoat Orks is not enough?
http://basicks.eu/shop/product.php?id_product=222
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kromlech-Orcs-greatcoats-Orc-War-2-ork-post-apo-/150758851710?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2319ed847e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kromlech-Orc-Greatcoat-Arms-Orc-War-2-ork-post-apo-/160811639915?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25711ee46b
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Post by: Miguelsan
I said soviet, not german.
M.
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Post by: Azazelx
Sure, but I don't think you can register/trademark a name and then expect it to also cover all translations of that word and all alternative spellings in all parts of the world.
After all, "Coke" isn't a real word, and the "Coca" is combined with "Cola".
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Post by: Lormax
Is it just me, or do I remember Chapterhouse's Alt-Turrets being cheaper? $17 and you get all the variants and magnets to mount them. Using these would cost me a lot more than $17 after getting all the variants
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Lormax wrote:Is it just me, or do I remember Chapterhouse's Alt-Turrets being cheaper? $17 and you get all the variants and magnets to mount them. Using these would cost me a lot more than $17 after getting all the variants
Great if you want 1 Razorback and can't decide on loadout.
If I want 5 specific guns that's $55 from these guys or $87.5 from Chapterhouse.
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Post by: d-usa
lord_blackfang wrote:Lormax wrote:Is it just me, or do I remember Chapterhouse's Alt-Turrets being cheaper? $17 and you get all the variants and magnets to mount them. Using these would cost me a lot more than $17 after getting all the variants
Great if you want 1 Razorback and can't decide on loadout.
If I want 5 specific guns that's $55 from these guys or $87.5 from Chapterhouse.
That doesn't adress the point at all though. If you have 5 Razorbacks and can't decide on the load out this company would be even more expensive. $87.5 would give us all the options for all 5 tanks, how muc would you have to spend on these to get all the options?
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Post by: lord_blackfang
d-usa wrote:That doesn't adress the point at all though. If you have 5 Razorbacks and can't decide on the load out this company would be even more expensive. $87.5 would give us all the options for all 5 tanks, how muc would you have to spend on these to get all the options?
It addresses the point perfectly. You buy from whichever place covers your specific needs better. Choice is good. What a concept
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Post by: kenshin620
lord_blackfang wrote: Choice is good. What a concept
Especially when it comes to WW2 space orcs
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Post by: Mad4Minis
n0t_u wrote:I like the ammo feed on the assault cannon one.
That caught my eye as well, a very cool detail for sure.
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Post by: Azazelx
I should probably make a small order from these guys when I get paid next - before GW C&Ds them into oblivion. That particular variation on the 2-headed eagle is really close to another particular companys' symbol...
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Post by: Sean_OBrien
scipio.au wrote:I should probably make a small order from these guys when I get paid next - before GW C&Ds them into oblivion. That particular variation on the 2-headed eagle is really close to another particular companys' symbol...
While I agree in part - the stylized version is pretty "familiar" I would love to see GW lawyers show up in a Polish court and file the paperwork. The Russian Empire, which included Poland - used the double headed eagle as the central part of their standard. It is carved in buildings, churches, printed on money, on official documents and all sorts of other items. Now, the money has changed - but many of the buildings still have the emblem carved in stone (wouldn't be surprised if the court house they went to file in had a few as well). Should give the officer's of the court a good laugh. Granted, it predates the Russians by a few thousand years (Hittites IIRC).
Not to mention that the particular form of the double headed eagle isn't exceptionally unique either. Don't remember the specific section of the regime, but it was in one of the propaganda divisions of the Nazi party that adopted the double headed eagle in a very similar style to that used by GW. You can see it on the cover of this DVD:
http://www.amazon.com/Double-Headed-Eagle-DVD/dp/B0015YY78Q
Not a perfect match - but more than enough to poo all over GW's claims to that particular icon. Plus, Polish courts are not nearly as quick to enforce IP claims against internal companies from external companies (one of the reasons why you see a lot of these types of companies over there).
All of that said - I do like the ammo feed, it adds an extra level of detail that a lot are missing.
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Post by: adamsouza
Great looking models, I cant wait to see what they do for the other races and terrain.
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Post by: Construct
n0t_u wrote:I like the ammo feed on the assault cannon one.
True. Makes me wish they'd done power cables on the las/ plas and fuel lines (instead of those titchy little cannisters) on the flamer. Or at least plugged the holes in the base.
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Post by: kenshin620
New release, a quad gun
Of course
Conveniently already equipped with double headed eagle too
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
And everyone shall have quad guns
(and neat ones too looking at this)
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Post by: frozenwastes
So far I'm liking this. The stuff they're coming out with is actually pretty cool.
As for the name, I like that too.
The more people that challenge GW's lies about what is their IP the better.
The more choice the better.
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Post by: Commander Cain
That is really nice! I can't wait for them to move on to some more interesting unique stuff, not that there is anything wrong with what they have atm, it is just a bit predictable!
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Post by: Blood Lord Soldado
I like the "Quad guns" .. a lot better than the other secondary market ones avail.
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Post by: Orlanth
In want to buy, buts its too far down my list of (gaming) priorities.
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Post by: CT GAMER
kenshin620 wrote:New release, a quad gun
Of course
Conveniently already equipped with double headed eagle too

Sexy...
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Post by: Kroothawk
Wake me up when they release the first model that hasn't been done 5 times before.
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Post by: Azazelx
Sean_OBrien wrote:scipio.au wrote:I should probably make a small order from these guys when I get paid next - before GW C&Ds them into oblivion. That particular variation on the 2-headed eagle is really close to another particular companys' symbol...
While I agree in part - the stylized version is pretty "familiar" I would love to see GW lawyers show up in a Polish court and file the paperwork. The Russian Empire, which included Poland - used the double headed eagle as the central part of their standard. It is carved in buildings, churches, printed on money, on official documents and all sorts of other items. Now, the money has changed - but many of the buildings still have the emblem carved in stone (wouldn't be surprised if the court house they went to file in had a few as well). Should give the officer's of the court a good laugh. Granted, it predates the Russians by a few thousand years (Hittites IIRC).
Yeap, I'm quite familiar with the use of eagles (single and double-headed) throughout European history. It was the particularly familiar one that I was referring to. I've seen that double-headed Nazi eagle before as well, though I thought it was a fictitious variant rather than an actual historical one.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I like those Quad guns. I'll add them to the list. Which is going to take quite some time to get through.
Kroot - I'm sure you'll be happy when they release their Kriegsmarine Orc heads. That would be something new, after all. Has anyone done Luftwaffe Orc heads yet?
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Post by: kenshin620
scipio.au wrote:
Kroot - I'm sure you'll be happy when they release their Kriegsmarine Orc heads. That would be something new, after all. Has anyone done Luftwaffe Orc heads yet?
Actually since 6th makes big guns really good, maybe someone would make Orc PaK Guns! Maybe even 88's
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Post by: Lord_Astaroth
kenshin620 wrote:scipio.au wrote:
Kroot - I'm sure you'll be happy when they release their Kriegsmarine Orc heads. That would be something new, after all. Has anyone done Luftwaffe Orc heads yet?
Actually since 6th makes big guns really good, maybe someone would make Orc PaK Guns! Maybe even 88's
Well, to be honest, the Ork big gunz aren't too far off anyhow. Also, the Basilisk is pretty close to an 88 as is. I think the new stuff looks great, and I can see myself buying any of these really.
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Post by: d-usa
Kroothawk wrote:Wake me up when they release the first model that hasn't been done 5 times before.
Nazi Tau instead of Nazi Orks then?
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Post by: Azazelx
What does that quad cannon "count-as", anyway?
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Post by: Kroothawk
d-usa wrote:Nazi Tau instead of Nazi Orks then? 
Chaos Tau, it's Chaos Tau
Or Nazi Tyranids?
Anyway, we now have the Goodwin Law for Polish miniature companies
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Post by: jmurph
Fine work, but I am a little surprised it is in areas with lots of competition already.
And, please, no more of the "IZ GW TRADEMARK" discussions- they are OT and have no place in showcasing new products.
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Post by: Lord_Astaroth
scipio.au wrote:What does that quad cannon "count-as", anyway?
I would have to say by looking at the website, that it is a counts as for the Hydra's autocannons, though they look a little short for that.
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Post by: BrookM
Kroothawk wrote:d-usa wrote:Nazi Tau instead of Nazi Orks then? 
Chaos Tau, it's Chaos Tau
Or Nazi Tyranids?
Anyway, we now have the Goodwin Law for Polish miniature companies
Don't demonize Jes Goodwin along with those Polish companies.. It's GODWIN's law.
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Post by: Panic
yeah, jmurph wrote:And, please, no more of the "IZ GW TRADEMARK" discussions- they are OT and have no place in showcasing new products. Not gonna happen as long as scumbag companies copy GW IP and their showcase coat tail riding endeavours are posted in the news forums. Panic...
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Post by: Quark
Lord_Astaroth wrote:scipio.au wrote:What does that quad cannon "count-as", anyway?
I would have to say by looking at the website, that it is a counts as for the Hydra's autocannons, though they look a little short for that.
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m210061a_99120199015_ImperialAegisDefenceLine2_873x627.jpg
Quad Gun for Fortifications.
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Post by: Lord_Astaroth
Though I'd say it would make a fine Aegis autocannon, this is what makes me say what I said: http://store.forgeplanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=81 It even has the Chimera back to it.
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Post by: BrookM
Nice, the exhausts on the rear are a bit unnecessary though.
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Post by: Azazelx
Godwin's Law.
Anyway, Polish miniature companies just have to post once or even be mentioned by someone here and Kroot will jump in ranting about Polish Nazis.
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Post by: Kroothawk
scipio.au wrote:Godwin's Law.
Anyway, Polish miniature companies just have to post once or even be mentioned by someone here and Kroot will jump in ranting about Polish Nazis. 
Maybe you haven't noticed: The company already announced Space Orks on their website. And given their creativity, it must be what everyone else does. Oh, and someone else started the Nazi Ork discussion in this thread, i only reacted.
Also, most Polish companies had their first news&rumour thread started by me, many are still updated by me (Micro Art, Scibor, Basicks, sometimes Zealot Miniatures, Hitech), the others maintained by the companies themselves now.
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Post by: Lockark
That has to be the 1st Quad gun cannon by a 3rd part compony that doesn't look derpy to me. I like it.
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Post by: catharsix
kenshin620 wrote:More releases
"Iron Guard" Heads, Backpacks, and Gun Carriages
Because we need more gasmasks right!
What we need is ONE 3rd party company making well-sculpted gas mask heads (hello, Puppets' War?) not a dozen all producing mediocre sculpts...
-C6
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Post by: Construct
What cute little chibi Commie-kun heads! Kawaii-desu-desu! In fairness, they'll probably look much better with a lick of paint, just like...
catharsix wrote:What we need is ONE 3rd party company making well-sculpted gas mask heads (hello, Puppets' War?) not a dozen all producing mediocre sculpts...
...the Pig Iron Kolony heads did after Archibald Jack got through with them on his Hunde des Kreiges:
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Post by: Conrad Turner
Some nice products, but there are some flaws too. The 'gatling' razorback turrets I agree that the visible ammo feeds are a nice idea, it's just a shame from my point of view that the ammo is visibly bigger calibre than the gun barrels. The dread arms and the quad gun have either no visible ammo storage, or it is too small to do the job.
It is lucky, then, that all these problems can be solved with a quick visit to Zinge for some of his ammo belts (Or possibly drilling out the barrels on the gat razorback.). A quick change of ammo size, or the addition of some of his flexible armoured ammo belts and a much bigger ammo bin would make these just about perfect.
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Post by: Lockark
Thows gas mask heads look realy derp. I am going to pretend that never happened.....
Now that Gun carriage with out a gun at the bottom? That thing is GREAT. Could probly convert some cool Big Gunz for the orks useing that. Also IG heavy weapons mounted on thows would also look great.
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Post by: Empchild
That gun carraige is great not a fan of the heads though what so ever.
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Post by: frozenwastes
I actually like the heads. I think they'll paint up very, very creepy. The large lenses will probably help with that.
Would I go for them over the Pig Iron kolony heads? Maybe.
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Post by: Azazelx
So has anyone here actually gotten any of this stuff? I was about to order a pair of Autocannon dread arms, when I realised that $10 postage on a $22 purchase was perhaps not ideal. Especially for a "try you out" order.
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Post by: Neconilis
scipio.au wrote:So has anyone here actually gotten any of this stuff? I was about to order a pair of Autocannon dread arms, when I realised that $10 postage on a $22 purchase was perhaps not ideal. Especially for a "try you out" order.
I have. I made my own 'try you out' order last month and I was very impressed with the quality of the product. I received perfect casts with little to no cleanup required and if I could think of a good excuse to buy more I certainly would; however, I have more than my share of models sitting around waiting to be painted at the moment. Still, for whatever it's worth, I'd recommend giving them a shot.
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Post by: Bavius
This is Buy Painted's webstore. Fantastic tutorials and now bits!
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Post by: Gepzo
Well, damn. I tried my own test order after seeing people here had some luck, and I'm sorry to report that my order was placed 45 days ago, and is still pending. Looks like I just flushed $60 down the toilet. Shame, the stuff looks great.
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Post by: Azazelx
Open a PayPal dispute while you still can - or a credit card chargeback..
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Post by: Gepzo
Oh, 45 days is the limit, my time is up. Hence my warning to the rest of the English-googling world here. Will update if anything positive happens, but I'm considering it a loss right now.
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Post by: ruyn
If you bought it with a Visa card, talk to their claims and disputes department. They'll handle it. Not sure about other card companies though.
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Post by: Crimson
I ordered few gun carriages and they arrived in two days. The bits are excellent, and I'm planning to built all my future IG heavy weapons with these.
I just hope they won't get sued into oblivion. That eagle is totally unnecessarily asking for trouble.
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Post by: alarmingrick
Crimson wrote:I ordered few gun carriages and they arrived in two days. The bits are excellent, and I'm planning to built all my future IG heavy weapons with these. I just hope they won't get sued into oblivion. That eagle is totally unnecessarily asking for trouble. How long ago if you don't mind me asking? Gepzo wrote:Well, damn. I tried my own test order after seeing people here had some luck, and I'm sorry to report that my order was placed 45 days ago, and is still pending. Looks like I just flushed $60 down the toilet. Shame, the stuff looks great. Gepzo: I'm in almost the same boat! I placed the order, and then NADA. It started getting close to the 45 day limit, I opened a claim, he said he reshipped, tried to make me feel bad and I closed it. I went over the 45 day period, called Paypal and now he has 10 days to provide tracking or a refund. On the 11th day they said they'll just award me the refund. I fully intend on paying this guy, but only if I get my gun carriages! Looks like I may need to find another source for gun carriages. I also contacted the seller to make him aware of the ongoing issues of this thread, and haven't seen him show up here, or reply to me.....
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Post by: Clang
Yeah, the quad gun turret looks suspiciously like it was designed to both sit on a Chimera or behind a ADL (although you'd need to mount it on something) - which makes sense from a manufacturer's perspective.
I really like the gun carriage too. So how about some guns to sit on it? (Hmm, I'm presuming the quad gun turret wouldn't fit?)
The other models are ok but not great, IMHO.
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Post by: SilverMK2
The gun cart, backpacks and quad gun all look pretty cool to me.
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Post by: alarmingrick
Clang wrote:Yeah, the quad gun turret looks suspiciously like it was designed to both sit on a Chimera or behind a ADL (although you'd need to mount it on something) - which makes sense from a manufacturer's perspective.
I really like the gun carriage too. So how about some guns to sit on it? (Hmm, I'm presuming the quad gun turret wouldn't fit?)
The other models are ok but not great, IMHO.
SilverMK2 wrote:The gun cart, backpacks and quad gun all look pretty cool to me.
While couldn't possibly agree more with either one of you, it doesn't matter how awesome something looks if you never get it!
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Post by: agustin
Forge Planet - if you're listening, you can't dick customers around. If someone places and order and you have to cast the product up and there will be delays, tell them! And if they open a paypal claim and you know you haven't shipped yet, refund it immediately with no hassle.
The biggest killer for an online retailer is not being trustworthy.
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Post by: sphynx
warpcrafter wrote:If the release full german orcs kits with greatcoats and shoota-type weapons, I will buy them. Loads of them.
http://kromlech.eu/?tag=orc-war-2 - Is this to your liking?
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Post by: Squigsquasher
OK, those company names are just begging for a lawsuit.
Nice parts though.
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Post by: chris_valera
Holy gak, this one's awesome. If they're lacking the horrendous banana-bends of the FW ones, I'm in.
--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com
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Post by: Azazelx
Such a shame they appear to have disappeared. Some of their kits are really outstanding...
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Post by: alarmingrick
Update:
I'm sorry I have replied sooner, I'm sick.
I received my order yesterday. It was the replacement order sent, not the original shipment.
The owner was good about staying intouch for the most part. He was out of the country for
a bit, but replied as soon as he returned.The items I received were really well made, and look
great. He added a few extra pieces. I feel the backpacks desrve special mention. Really cool item.
I spent a ton on FW ones that I would've never done had I seen these first.
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Post by: Gepzo
If you don't mind, please contact me back-channel or something and give me a contact method that these guys will actually respond to...I want to give them a chance to make things right, I still want those bits!
-Gepzo
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Post by: frozenmilk
Looks like quality bits, those turrets are pretty nice. Thought mucking around with getting stuff to people is not a good way to get business going, especially when you don't communicate.
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Post by: Azazelx
I would love to buy some of their stuff, but I'm too scared to try.
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Post by: Gepzo
What is this? I arrive home to see a note from the post office saying I have a package from Poland? Could it be that the bits are here, after taking the slow boat from Europe? We'll know tomorrow afternoon...
Anyone know any good recipes for crow?
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Post by: Gepzo
YES! Even though there hasn't been any more communication from Forge Planet, the package did arrive today, and I must say, the casting is excellent quality, no bubbles, no warping. Some flash is there, on the sprue, not on the model, and there's some minor sanding to be done on the underside of the turret plug, but every surface that is visible on the assembled Rhino turret or twin linked autocannon arms is excellent.
So, there you go people, the stuff takes a long time, and communications aren't the best, but the quality is there, and it does arrive, eventually.
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Post by: RiTides
Given this thread showing at least 2 folks saying they never got product and had to file credit card chargebacks, I think folks should be extremely wary of this company...
To be avoided!
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Post by: Breotan
Azazelx wrote:I would love to buy some of their stuff, but I'm too scared to try.
It says a lot about this industry when the Russians wind up being more reliable than many of the "honest" after-market product guys.
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Post by: Neconilis
RiTides wrote:Given this thread showing at least 2 folks saying they never got product and had to file credit card chargebacks, I think folks should be extremely wary of this company...
To be avoided!
For whatever it's worth, I have ordered product from Forge Planet again recently, and while shipping certainly did take some time, I received everything and in excellent condition.
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Post by: Azazelx
How long did it take them to ship?
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Post by: alarmingrick
For-freaking-ever!!!
Great stuff, but seriously, a 6 - 8 week wait. My last order I filed a claim with Paypal, 2 days before it expired I received an expedited replacement order.
5 days after that, the original order showed up! Since he was nice enough to send a replacement, the least I could do was pay for it!
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Post by: pities2004
Buy at your own risk, I had zero communication and had to file a charge back
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Post by: Neconilis
It's been about 4 weeks for me for all of my orders, though, one hit the 6 week mark.
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Post by: frozenwastes
I just don't understand why he can't be assed to send an email saying that he's backed up on casting or something and apologizing and explaining and whatnot. It's totally crippiing what would otherwise be a successful business.
Or to simply cast and ship in a reasonable time. If you can't do that, close down shop and stop taking people's money.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Is it a case of his casting being slow
or is it just the Russian postal service being terrible (which it apparently is, especially when it comes to getting stuff out of the country)?
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Post by: frozenwastes
I've never had any problems getting stuff in a timely fashion from Russian eBay sellers. I think Forge Planet is in Poland though, and other sellers out of Poland also have no problem shipping stuff and keeping up good communication.
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Post by: RiTides
I, too, have had no problems getting items from Russia. I've gotten 3 this year. I also order from other companies in Poland (at least a handful of times this year, too) with no problems.
So, imo blaming it on the post is not adequate, particularly since it is coupled with a lack of any communication from what folks are saying.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Hmmm
I know the stuff I've ordered in from Russia (either via eBay or via the manufacturers website) has typically taken 4-6 weeks to get to the UK, and I'm pretty confident they've been posted within a couple of days of the order
(I know they were for a couple of the 1/35 kits I've bought)
I wonder if there's an issue with them getting into the EU compared to the USA?
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Just for information, Forge Planet is in Poland not Russia.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
My mistake then (thanks for putting me right),
Disregard my comments above, I've no experience with ordering from Poland, and no idea how long you might expect the polish postal service to take
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Post by: Azazelx
I've had no issues with many packages from Maxmini and Kromlech, and even Bitspudlo in Poland. I had issues with Puppetswar, but that was with them fething about with sending my order, not with the Polish post, as once it was sent it came relatively quickly.
Once items are sent from Poland, it's usually 2-3 weeks to Australia once sent, from my experience of 10+ orders from various sources.
Anyway, looks like I'll be giving Forge Planet a miss.
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Post by: SickSix
I have not ordered from these guys but other orders from poland have taken up to 4 weeks. My fastest was just over two weeks.
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Post by: Insurgency Walker
I have ordered from them a couple times and not had a problem. There may have been a long wait, but I'm patient.
I love the AA turret! It came very clean with no bends.
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Post by: deadairis
Yeah, Russia and Poland both lickety-split for me. Only exception? Puppetswar when they don't send stuff.
If anything, Russian shipping always seems strangely quick.
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Post by: VikingChild
Hey guys, i thought i'd throw a comment into this thread as I've just recently made an order to Forge Planet for some of their Iron Guard gun carriages.
I placed the order on Wednesday 26th June (payday!) at 6am, before i left for work. Later that night i was checking my emails and there was one from FP stating my order's status had been changed to 'dispatched'. I'd say that's pretty good to receive and verify my payment and ship the item all on the same day, so lets see how long it takes to reach my little rain soaked corner of the world. I've ordered from Poland before (MaxMini) and it took about 3-4 weeks.
This is the first time I've ordered from them and I've had my eye on those gun carriages for quite a while. I'll admit that there's always a fair bit of trepidation when ordering from an overseas 3rd party bits company but i'm willing to give them a try - at the end of the day I've only spent 20 quid, which i'll not miss too much if things go pear shaped. Plus, i paid with PayPal so i should be able to recoup this paltry sum.
As soon as they land through my door i'll let you all know, maybe post some pics of the carriages for those interested.
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Post by: RiTides
If you used Paypal, just keep an eye on the 45-day window you're allowed to file a claim in, and file if you haven't received the items by then. Should ensure that you at least get your money back, in the end, if things don't get shipped (this is true of any company).
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Post by: VikingChild
Thanks RiTides
But guess what? The fething things have arrived already!!!
Note the multiple use of exclamation marks - a fair indication of how surprised and delighted i was!
It's Saturday night where i am, the package would actually have been delivered Friday morning but we were out at the time, went down the post office this morning with my 'something for you' slip, came back home well chuffed as i thought i was picking something up for the wife. So, from Poland to Northern Ireland took about 48 hours and that was with flat rate shipping at USD8.00, they must have had a cargo plane sitting on the runway ready to go!
I ordered 3 sets of the weapon carriages, giving me 6 in total, enough for 2 heavy weapon squads and all for around 30 dollars, about 20 pounds sterling. The carriages are about the same size as FW DKK i'd say. The casts are really good, really crisp details, mould lines are barely perceptible, there was a tiny bit of flash on a couple of the wheels and some of the trails but that was about it. There was also 1 or 2 air bubbles in the resin but they were minimal, pin prick sized to be honest, nothing to get worried about.
My pics below probably don't do them justice as the lights bad here but take a look
I deliberately left the gun shield off the lascannon and autocannon as they don't fit properly without coming into contact with the carriage wheels. The heavy bolter will take a shield ok but i actually prefer the one without it.
Quite glad i ordered from them after all, the carriages are very cool and characterful and would suit any Imperial Guard, Traitor or Ork army, i want to equip one squad with heavy bolters and am toying with the idea of mounting the other squad with mortars. Dunno how long it would take to ship to North America or Australia but they seem professional enough. Maybe i just got lucky, or the planets were all in alignment, but i'll be ordering from them again!
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Post by: RiTides
I'm glad they arrived! Perhaps he's noticed the bad press and is trying to send things out when they're ordered...
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Post by: Azazelx
They look quite nice. When/if news starts of fast delivery starts to become the norm, I might buy some stuff from them. They certainly have some nice kits I'd be interested in.
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Post by: Requiem
Found this topic with the search engine when trying to find out if others have had issues with Forge Planet
I placed my order 1 month ago, and received an order confirmation, after that: nothing at all.
I've e-mailed them twice, no response as of yet.
Though I do find it comforting to know that people here have (eventually) received their order, I'm going to give it a few more days before I try to get my money back through paypal. Very disappointing... They don't even have to cast anything I ordered so that couldn't possibly be an excuse
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Post by: cadian127th
Has anyone dealt with Forge Planet recently?
Their website is still up and running and I really like the look of their quad anti air cannon kit. I'm not too fussed that they take ages to arrive but just want to know if they are still operating.
Cheers.
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Post by: reds8n
Thread is being locked due to thread necromancy.
A new thread in discussions is fine though
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