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Old Post:
New rumours on Warriors of Chaos by Harry over at Warseer:

NEW RUMOURS:

Release Date:
Coming in a number of waves.
First wave without the book. (WD update)
First wave (as predicted) November.
Next wave February/March.

Models:
Warshrine
Skull crushers
Hellstriders.
2 Finecast characters
One new one and one old favorite.

Too early to call bobbins on everything below ... lots of what has been rumoured could still appear in the book and in later waves.

Skullcrushers being something like Knights of Khorne riding Juggernaughts, Throgg not being in the first wave.

Added 4th October:

75hastings69 wrote:On topic so not to get in trouble (and also to boost my rating) I'll add plastic dragon ogres to this WoC release wave
I'll also add generic plastic chaos lord clam pack (feel my rating soar!! Lol)

Hope Dark Angels can coincide with this.

 Sasori wrote:
Hope Dark Angels can coincide with this.

Haha, same but funny that the first post about a fantasy update is about us 40k stuff.

 Sasori wrote:
Hope Dark Angels can coincide with this.

Also hoping that Dark Angels don't get enough new models to fill a whole month

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
Hope Dark Angels can coincide with this.

Also hoping that Dark Angels don't get enough new models to fill a whole month

Hear, hear lol

At least the books not coming on the back of the CSm one for me, funds and all that

Any idea if the Lord on Jugger is going Finecost?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Any idea if the Lord on Jugger is going Finecast?

Why wouldn't he? I'm sure it's a fairly popular model, as it's one of GW's best.

So if this is true then Tastytaste was right about Stickmonkey being wrong. No surprise there I'm looking forward to seeing the new models though; skullcrushers sound cool if they're basically Juggernauts with WoC on them.

I second the new crushers. Mortals on giant evil mech-bulls sounds good to me.

Hope the riders and mounts for both plastic kits are new. Will be poor on GW's part if the kits are just riders from the Chaos Knight kit mixed with Blood Crusher mounts. Same goes for the Slaanesh Steed Riders. Hoping for some unique Slaanesh flavored marauders.

WAY off-topic posts deleted, and various warnings issued. If you can't stay on-topic, you don't need to post.

Also excited about the Skullcrushers. And interested in the Warshrine - is it going to be like the Empire warshrine-thingy that was released recently? (Or do we even know anything about that yet?)

So soon on the heels of an underwhelming release for CSM, I'm hoping this stuff makes for good conversion fodder. I've always liked using the WoC stuff for that purpose.

-C6

 catharsix wrote:
And interested in the Warshrine - is it going to be like the Empire warshrine-thingy that was released recently?

Yes, it'll be exactly the same kit, but with an additional sprue of spiky parts

Pretre - do not add to rumour tracking

Awsome.
And it sucks too.
I need to buy wavy to many stuff :(

 Flashman wrote:
Yes, it'll be exactly the same kit, but with an additional sprue of spiky parts

Pretre - do not add to rumour tracking

Lol. I love that this is the new post-script to silly remarks.

Here another one

75hastings69 wrote:On topic so not to get in trouble (and also to boost my rating) I'll add plastic dragon ogres to this WoC release wave

Harry wrote: LOL way up there on the list of things you could care less about!

75hastings69 wrote:I'll also add generic plastic chaos lord clam pack (feel my rating soar!! Lol)

@ Harry, I'm just about to grass you up for your false nurgle specific big daemon kit.... soulgrinder indeed FALSE! Lol

Harry wrote:Noooooo !

They may hate you on Warseer, pretre, but it works anyway

Oh, and H.B.M.C.: Does this wave answer your question about the rumour of GW not making waves anymore?

They hate Pretre on Warseer?

Really?

I think that's a reference to his rumor accuracy tracking thread. Accountability is a good thing, imo, although I know a lot of these rumor mongerers don't always have specifics. But it helps to weed out the fake rumorers!

75hastings69 wrote:

Generic Chaos Lord (Plastic) (wounder if he is mounted?)

Not mounted (does that count as a seperate rumour?)

Harry wrote:No

(...)
Don't get too excited for the dragon ogres, I hear they're not great, an older sculpt that wasn't released last time round so I'm told.
Rules aren't my thing so I couldn't comment, actuall book (and more models) not out till next year.

Harry wrote:Well i can't vouch for the Dragon ogres but i hear some fo the other stuff is pretty good. so I'm excited.

 Alpharius wrote:
They hate Pretre on Warseer?

Really?

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?354131-Dakka-s-Rumour-Accuracy-thread


My feelings are mighty hurt.

 pretre wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
They hate Pretre on Warseer?

Really?

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?354131-Dakka-s-Rumour-Accuracy-thread


My feelings are mighty hurt.

I love you non the less!!

Aww...

On Dragon Ogres:

75hastings69 wrote:They're in the unoriginal rearing on back legs pose that is by numbers for GW, IIRC Alex Hedstrom did them.
I'm disliking stuff more often as the quality & imagination of recent releases has been more and more lacking.

I wonder if the sculpting department was made aware that ogres and dragon-ogres are unrelated. I guess we can find out soon.

I don't think so, almost armoured ogre torso with centauriod dragon lower half, nothing like the wonderful shaggoth.
they are indeed plastic........ and not very good.

Freenut wrote:A bit of news. U.S. Thrown of Skulls is in Memephis. Tn. this weekend. On Fri. there was a tour of the production facilities. Serveral people reported seeing boxes of chaos knight mounted on juggernughts. 3 to a box.

It shouldn't be that much of a surprise.... I did say they were coming
(...)
yes there are models coming out that cheer me up...... pretty much all the models coming out for hell dorado (especially Ashoka)

.... as for GW....

...the plastic demonic nurgle flies with plagubearers riding them are nice too ....... They're not out for a while yet though

So, GW is releasing more of these WD-codexes. Not sure what I think about this, one the one hand it's an excuse for GW not to release codexes/army books as quickly, which they surely need to do but then one could argue that this would mean GW can at least do updates more often, even if they're smaller. Hmm...

The Skullcrusher things sound awesome as well. I won't be buying any (finances and all) but it's nice to know there'll be more cool stuff in the world

MIGHTLY upset at the rumor that the plastic Dragon Ogres are sub-par.

It will never cease to amaze me what passes for QC/Artistic Signoffs at GW.

You know, if this is true...

 Alpharius wrote:
MIGHTLY upset at the rumor that the plastic Dragon Ogres are sub-par.

It will never cease to amaze me what passes for QC/Artistic Signoffs at GW.

You know, if this is true...

Yes, it would be a shame. All they had to do was pull off a mini-Shaggoth. Will wait and see though...

 The Shadow wrote:
So, GW is releasing more of these WD-codexes..

Not a full army book. I expect one February or March with another WoC wave.

I am pleased with the idea of plastic Dragon Ogres (and a plastic chariot and plastic Warriors riding Juggers too), I hope they won't be that ugly.

All I ask for is better looking marauders and possibly a god specific champion sprew with the warriors

Really not liking the WD update stuff. Years ago (1998 and before) sure could have stomached shelling out for it. Now however... Plus they want paid for digital copies and insist you have an apple product. No thanks...

If they did this stuff as a free booklet and there will be a PDF of it on their site to tide people over who frankly have the sense not to buy the advertisment then I'd say they were heading in the correct direction.

Saddened the Dragon ogres are rumouredd to look bad, hoping they are good enough, and looking forward to a warshrine/chariot kit with any luck.

Anyone dropped clues about any rules being changed in the update (eg: Marks) or another just units tweaked/nerfed/added thing?

Oh, and H.B.M.C.: Does this wave answer your question about the rumour of GW not making waves anymore?

It looks to me what they are doing now, is releasing a WD "Wave" ahead of the Codex release, so that when they release the codex they can hit it with the rest of the models. This makes a lot of sense, as it gets two separate waves out there, and cuts out the gap that we are used to seeing, so that 3rd parties could make things like the Tervigon kit.

There certainly are a lot of rumors about what GW is releasing in November, including some Warriors of Chaos and possibly Dark Angels as most people have seen by now.

Here's the only thing certain so far about The Hobbit and December in the GW official statement below, so maybe we are getting something cool for a Warhammer system in November. I wonder how well this product for The Hobbit will do. It's been about 2 years since GW had a major release for the LotR related game systems. When Fellowship of the Ring was in theaters GW was selling their related gaming product in high profile massive chain stores like Borders Books, but Borders is sadly gone now and who knows if any large chains will give GW product that kind of exposure this time around.

--------------------------------------------------------
From a recent GW financial statement the CEO declared:

"What I can say is that we will release some amazing products this year. Products that will surprise and delight Hobbyists. We plan to do so every month, including December 2012 when we will release our new Hobbit range to coincide with the film. And... ahh, but that would spoil the surprise. You will just have to wait and see. You will not be disappointed."

from http://investor.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Preliminary-announcement-2012-final.pdf

 Alpharius wrote:
MIGHTLY upset at the rumor that the plastic Dragon Ogres are sub-par.

It will never cease to amaze me what passes for QC/Artistic Signoffs at GW.

You know, if this is true...

I simply cannot understand how sub-par miniatures get made at GW these days. Why don't they have Jes Goodwin design/direct and/or sculpt basically as much as he can, with Juan Diaz, Brian Nelson and the other really good designers/sculptors doing the rest. It's not like they come out with a bajillinon things every month non-stop. I don't know why they even keep on the dead-weight, like whoever sculpted the Finecast Flayed Ones, the new (truly awful, and mightily disappointing) Mutilators, etc...

I know that not every release can get the kind of extended attention and comprehensive quality overhaul that the Dark Eldar got, but if they could at least get the good quality that the Necrons, Grey Knights (save the "baby harness"), and the Tyranids got. There isn't a single miniature in those lines that I don't think is fine, and most I genuinely like, and a few I think are downright brilliant.

Of course, none of us know if the Dragon Ogres are poorly done or not, but my comment still stands I think. Get rid of the dead weight, GW, and give the designing/sculpting to those who produce the really top-notch sculpts!

-C6

 catharsix wrote:
Why don't they have Jes Goodwin design/direct and/or sculpt basically as much as he can, with Juan Diaz, Brian Nelson and the other really good designers/sculptors doing the rest.

He does, when not having duties as head of the plastic department

 BrassScorpion wrote:
It's been about 2 years since GW had a major release for the LotR related game systems.

This seems a bit off to me. I have been involved with GW games for less than 2 years, and there was definitely a major release in that time. If I remember correctly, it was February or March of this year.

2012: The year that WFB got a whopping 2 army books, both in the first 4 months.

This is just BS. And then on top of that the Dragon-ogres are apparently NOTHING like the Shaggoth. Sigh.

And I'm quite tired of all the nurgle/khorne models. WTB Tzeentch awesomeness.

This has been a terrible year for WFB. Grumble.

I suppose the upside is that since nothing cool is coming out with a book, I won't be tempted to start another army.

Pretty excited for a wave of WoC kits, should be some good conversion potential there. Unfortunately there's also likely to be some really nice things I want to buy and will have no gaming use for.

 Sasori wrote:

It looks to me what they are doing now, is releasing a WD "Wave" ahead of the Codex release, so that when they release the codex they can hit it with the rest of the models.

Yeah, I really hope this is a long-term pattern. It's a very good direction to go in imo.

 Aerethan wrote:
2012: The year that WFB got a whopping 2 army books, both in the first 4 months.

GW might simply be aware of 8th not being quite as good as they thought it was...WHFB became a lot less popular in our area, same applies for other parts of Germany I know people from. Most stores barely have WHF events anymore and if they do, those usually are 1500 or less points (which really is so little compared to the tourney size of 3k points). A lot of people I know (including myself) sold their WHFB armies in order to buy 40k stuff or gave up on tabletop altogether.

...and with 8th in mind: rightfully so.

WFB is very much alive and well in my neck of the woods, being equally as popular as 40k.

Come to think of it, did 40k only get 2 books this year as well?

you know I was gonna start a warriors of chaos army, but if they're just getting a white dwarf update (which is always, ALWAYS terrible) forget it
that and I always disliked how armies have virtually no magic items of their own and have to use that crappy common magic item list
I delude myself into liking 8th ed but I really should just give up.
Maybe lord of the rings will get a boost, that game was always playable, except war of the ring, that game can go die in a fire

 Aerethan wrote:
WFB is very much alive and well in my neck of the woods, being equally as popular as 40k.

Come to think of it, did 40k only get 2 books this year as well?

40k got a whole new edition

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
WFB is very much alive and well in my neck of the woods, being equally as popular as 40k.

Come to think of it, did 40k only get 2 books this year as well?

40k got a whole new edition

Which is all of like 50 models and is not a codex. A new edition shouldn't massively interrupt codex release schedules.

It might not interupt production of new models

but it will interup codex production as stuff they thought was done needs to be changed to fit with new rules

a small interuption if all teams talk to each other regularly, but I bet they don't,

and even if they are meant to somebody in the meeting will forget/not listen to something that will come back to cause problems in 6months to a years time

 Aerethan wrote:
WFB is very much alive and well in my neck of the woods, being equally as popular as 40k.

The space marine range alone is as popular as the whloe of WHFB, if you look at it from a sales perspective.

 Aerethan wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
WFB is very much alive and well in my neck of the woods, being equally as popular as 40k.

Come to think of it, did 40k only get 2 books this year as well?

40k got a whole new edition

Which is all of like 50 models and is not a codex. A new edition shouldn't massively interrupt codex release schedules.

6th breathed fresh life into 40k, finally nerfing those dreaded Grey Knights and solving major balance problems like transporter spam while adding new, interesting features and depth.

Pretty much the opposite of what 8th did in WHFB.

6th breathed fresh life into 40k, finally nerfing those dreaded Grey Knights and solving major balance problems like transporter spam while adding new, interesting features and depth.

I disagree with this as all the game is now is who can spam flyers. As to the features and depth I also disagree with that and I could go on for a long time about it as well.

Around my area most people have sold off their 40k armies and sticking with fantasy, but many have said they will probably just drop warhammer of either flavor because of pretty much everything that GW does.

NIce to hear, and interesting, but, this is the WoC WFB rumor thread - let's all stay on topic!

Thanks!

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
you know I was gonna start a warriors of chaos army, but if they're just getting a white dwarf update (which is always, ALWAYS terrible) forget it

You do understand the difference between a WD update, and a WD Codex/Army Book? This is the former.

WoC already received a WD update in...uhm...6th? I don't see anything wrong with that, especially since WoC do not even need a new codex, just minor adjustments....same as Lizardmen.

 LunaHound wrote:
Guess its confirmed!

Przemcio251 over at Warseer wrote:A bit of news apart from Skull Crushers and Hellstriders we will get units from pages 58, 72, 73, 74, 76 and 78 of our rulebook
So no new models for unit from page 62....
they are finecast and limited release scylla might be a new sculpt
Scylla will probably be a new model as it costs over twice the $ then Wulfrik
no WH40K in November

adicto over at Warseer wrote:58 - Warshrine
72 - Sigvald
73 - Valkya
74 - Wulfrik
76 - Scyla
78 - Festus

It looks like too many special characters in a single wave to me, but I really NEED Festus for the nurgle army I'm building up!

Valdee over at Warseer wrote:There will be update in WD with new models:
- warshrine
- skullcrushers of khorne
- hellriders of slaanesh
And models of:
- Valkia
- Festus
- Scyla
- Others special characters in finecast.

Sounds accurate to me; Harry said two new Special characters, and out of those 5 listed 3 already have models, so I reckon Scyla, Wulfrik and Sigvald are just being converted to Finecast from the current sculpts.

Another confirmation by a new poster over at Warseer:

Hastour wrote:Hi guys.
In our local retailer's preorders list the new chaos models are already available. There is a plastic warshrine, khorne and slaanesh units of monstrous cavalry, and special characters, including Valkia.
(...)
Sorry guys, I might have misled you here - they do seem to be just cavalry on slaanesh steeds (the price tag matches the equivalents in the deamons army). The other unit is obviously on juggers.

As to the special characters, wer're getting Scylla, Wulfrik, Valkia, Festus and Sigvald in finecast.
The warshrine name is just "warshrine", so I suppose it doesn't double as a chariot.

Przemcio251 wrote:Nope no plastic Chaos Lord

This time, but there are surely more units to come in the second wave, with the book.

 Aerethan wrote:
WFB is very much alive and well in my neck of the woods, being equally as popular as 40k.

Come to think of it, did 40k only get 2 books this year as well?

Books? Yes. But GW released roughly the same amount of miniatures for 40K in the first half of 2012 as they did in previous years.

2012 Jan-Jun: 21 new, original 40K releases
2011 Jan-Jun: 20 new, original 40K releases
2010 Jan-Jun: 24 new, original 40K releases (incl. Spearhead)
2009 Jan- Jun: 20 new, original 40K releases (incl. Space Marine Casualties minis).

The Space Wolves / Tyranids double-release in early 2012 was actually quite a bit larger than either the Grey Knights or the Blood Angels release of previous years.

So for a miniature company, their miniature pipeline was as stuffed as ever. They just didn't put out a book (which is largely negligible with respect to logistics and production efforts anyhow).

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
WFB is very much alive and well in my neck of the woods, being equally as popular as 40k.

Come to think of it, did 40k only get 2 books this year as well?

Books? Yes. But GW released roughly the same amount of miniatures for 40K in the first half of 2012 as they did in previous years.

2012 Jan-Jun: 21 new, original 40K releases
2011 Jan-Jun: 20 new, original 40K releases
2010 Jan-Jun: 24 new, original 40K releases (incl. Spearhead)
2009 Jan- Jun: 20 new, original 40K releases (incl. Space Marine Casualties minis).

The Space Wolves / Tyranids double-release in early 2012 was actually quite a bit larger than either the Grey Knights or the Blood Angels release of previous years.

So for a miniature company, their miniature pipeline was as stuffed as ever. They just didn't put out a book (which is largely negligible with respect to logistics and production efforts anyhow).

See the problem is that for most people, those models are useless without the books. What would have happened if Demigryphs had been released with no rules?

Either way, 2 books a year is tragically slow, especially when both of those books are in the first third of the year.

Those all look to be confirmation/pile-on, so I'll go ahead and leave them off the tracker.

Copied from the other thread:

3rd November

Skullcrushers of Khorne (3 Fig Box) $58.00
Hellstriders of Slaanesh (5 Fig Box) $33.00
Chaos Warshrine (1 Fig Box) $58.00

Scyla Anfingrimm (1 Fig Box) $49.50
Festus the Leechlord (1 Fig Clampack) $19.25
Wulfrik the Wanderer (1 Fig Clampack) $19.25
Sigvald the Magnificent (1 Fig Clampack $19.25
Valkia the Bloody (1 Fig Clampack) $22.25

Khorne Chaos Lord on Juggernaut (1 Fig Box) $49.50
Nurgle Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount (1 Fig Box) $40.00
Galrauch (1 Fig Box) $71.00
Tzeentch Chaos Lord on Disc of Tzeentch (1 Fig Box) $40.00
Chosen Command (5 Fig Box) $45.00
Chosen (5 Fig Box) $45.00
Be’lakor, Chaos Daemon Prince (1 Fig Box) $37.25

Chaos Warrior Halberds Upgrade Pack (10 Piece Pack) $15.00
Chaos Warrior Great Weapon Upgrade Pack (10 Piece Pack) $15.00

http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2012/10/22/warriors-of-chaos-pre-order-special-25-off/

 Sigvatr wrote:


6th breathed fresh life into 40k, finally nerfing those dreaded Grey Knights and solving major balance problems like transporter spam while adding new, interesting features and depth.

Apparently, my group is just doing it wrong because we've found none of that to be true.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:


6th breathed fresh life into 40k, finally nerfing those dreaded Grey Knights and solving major balance problems like transporter spam while adding new, interesting features and depth.

Apparently, my group is just doing it wrong because we've found none of that to be true.

Please don't feed the trolls. Let's stay on topic. The topic its Warriors of Chaos. I don't care about 6th edition 40k and it breathing life back into your game. I'm more interested in what is being released next month for my chaos army.

I can see myself getting a box or two of each type of cavalry. I'm just hoping the final version of the army book gets released soon.

This is great guys! thank you for sharing! I know a lot of fantasy guys will be stoked!

Hellstriders of Slaanesh (5 Fig Box) $33.00

Liking the sound of this!

Fingers crossed for different looking mauraders. They dont quite fit the Slaanesh theme I am going for.

Chosen are $9ea!!!!

Why on earth would anyone use those models now other than as characters or unit champions?

That makes them more than twice the price of any of the elite plastic infantry which are already way expensive.

This release is just bad. Only 3 new sets, and a crap ton of price hikes for the nightmare that is finecast.

Warseer, via the poster Kurl Veranek:

Hey Guys I'm the Austrian guy who got the WD early so here are the pics:

http://s1306.beta.photobucket.com/user/kurl1/library/

Btw:

Khorneriders are rare

Slaaneshriders are special

Scylla gets worse looking every time he's sculpted.

The Warshrine's a pass, too. I'll stick with my converted one.

'Crushers look good, though, as does Valkya.

I can't see 'em.
Care to post please?

Everything is a massive "meh."

Ninja'd.

Please anyone, post :(

I uploaded them to dakka's gallery:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-47-29676_New%20Warriors%20Models.html

Not too stoked about these. The Khorne models look great (the Juggs and Valkia), but the rest not so much. It doesn't look like much work went into the Hellstriders; looks like the exact same Steed sculpts from the Seeker and Chariot sets. Festus and the Shrine are ok but a bit un-evil in a goofy sort of way, or at least that's how those paintjobs and that background makes it look anyway. Scyla is absolutely ridiculous, easily the worst model GW has put out in awhile; looks like a cross between the Hulk and Hellboy, and I mean still ink on the paper.

 Godless-Mimicry wrote:
It doesn't look like much work went into the Hellstriders; looks like the exact same Steed sculpts from the Seeker and Chariot sets.

Even worse, the riders just look kind of plopped on. They're awkwardly posed with absolutely no indication how they're staying on the Steeds(especially with all of them having their legs splayed out like that) much less guiding them. The Crushers at least have stirrups on their feet, even if they're lacking reins.

Hmm, I love the new Skull Crushers. Those models have reduced the price of a 40k concept army I've been kicking around for a couple years now, by about 2/3.

And from the top rope, Scyla drops the elbow! He is a definite improvement over the previous version. Though he seems more demon prince than spawn. Cool model, though not $50 US cool.

Only other models I can make out clearly are the Juggers. All the components from the Lord on Jugger are there make the finecast model redundant.

Valkia and Festus are too blurry to make out :(

The shrine is wtf, which is good for chaos. Big fat four legged babies have sorely been missing from Chaos for too long. Want to see some clearer pictures as there appear to be a lot of potential bits there.

Even blurry, the steed riders are underwhelming. Really just look like they took the marauder horsemen riders and stuck them on the steeds.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Even worse, the riders just look kind of plopped on. They're awkwardly posed with absolutely no indication how they're staying on the Steeds(especially with all of them having their legs splayed out like that)

Chaos

much less guiding them.

Chaos

The Crushers at least have stirrups on their feet, even if they're lacking reins.

Chaos has no need for reins.

 pretre wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Even worse, the riders just look kind of plopped on. They're awkwardly posed with absolutely no indication how they're staying on the Steeds(especially with all of them having their legs splayed out like that)

Chaos

much less guiding them.

Chaos

The Crushers at least have stirrups on their feet, even if they're lacking reins.

Chaos has no need for reins.

That's worse than "A wizard did it".

Lots of nothing for Tzeentch players here. Valkia is cool, hopefully the warshrine has enough options to make it look decent.

Everything else is meh.

If the second wave of models isn't top notch, I'll end up scrapping my plans for a Tzeentch army.

I love the fact that a terribly weak model like Scyle gets even WORSE due to now being giant-sized.

Well played GW!

Shrine and Slaneesh riders easily go into the "worst minis GW ever produced" category. Those are god-awful!

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
I uploaded them to dakka's gallery:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-47-29676_New%20Warriors%20Models.html

Thanks buddy!

Valkia is cool, Festus is Festus-like (meh, that is) and Scyla is imrpoved IMHO.
Slaanesh guys are nothing for me, but they seem allright.
The Khorne knights are cool.
The warshrine, meh. Bit Tzeentch-y to me.

 Sigvatr wrote:
I love the fact that a terribly weak model like Scyle gets even WORSE due to now being giant-sized.

Noticed that too: in addition to being a worse sculpt, he also doubles in size every time.

The original dogface is still the best one.

So the vaulted knights of khorne ride the juggernauts but a bunch of marauders get to ride slaanesh's holy steeds?


Seems odd to me, I'd have hoped for some elite chosen slaaneshi knights, like the slaanesh lord on boobworm.

The slaanesh mounts probably have something to stick into the marauders, just for the pleasure in it

Are those Crushers the same as the ones with Bloodletters on them but with different riders?

That Festus dude is cool, I would get him as a counts as epidemius because I hate that model.

Well that's another GW release where I won't need to spend any cash on

Yes, it seems the plastic juggers seem to be the same as the Bloodletter ones.

They're gorgeous. Oh why the CSM couldn't get an unit of juggernaut riders? It would've been glorious.

Chaos in both Fantasy and 40k has been disappointing.

What's going on over at GW?

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
I love the fact that a terribly weak model like Scyle gets even WORSE due to now being giant-sized.

Noticed that too: in addition to being a worse sculpt, he also doubles in size every time.

The original dogface is still the best one.

Well I don't know about anything chaos but I reckon it would serve as a great base to make a kickass Ork warboss from.

Scyla looks as if someone at GW took a peek at PP site. Not a fan.

The warshrine has an awful paintjob, but it's a neat concept with lost of cool bits and potential.

Steed riders look like a random conversion rather than an actual production kit.

The Jugg riders are okay I guess, I'd still rather get the base Juggs and convers some proper saddles for these guys.

Valkia could be good, she's way to blurry to judge.

 thenoobbomb wrote:
The slaanesh mounts probably have something to stick into the marauders, just for the pleasure in it

Might be NSFW


Seems likely.

Sad panda here the slannesh riders just dont look right, shrine looks like it could be made to be pretty cool and I am avoiding everything Khorne.

... i think i'm gonna be sick.

I take it back.

I don't want any of that for my Chaos Space Marine army.

Scyla is terrible, Shrine has too much going on, cavalry needs to be more dynamic, Valkia is amazing and I plan on picking one up at some point even though I don't do WoCs. Everything else is meh.
Are there any non-WoC releases or is GW going with a "1 army per month" schedule?

Kurl also posted the rules and ppoint costs for some models:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?352545-Warriors-of-Chaos-Rumours-II&p=6481293&viewfull=1#post6481293

Galrauch, General on disc, General on Juggernaut, Nurgle General with scythe, Chosen, Be'lakor is the fincast stuff
(...)
as for the Base: All WoC Juggers are now on the same Base as Demigryphs as far as I can see.

BTW just for completeness: Photos confirm that there will be a small WD booklet containing the rules ... and not an army book.

 Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:
Scyla is terrible, Shrine has too much going on, cavalry needs to be more dynamic, Valkia is amazing and I plan on picking one up at some point even though I don't do WoCs. Everything else is meh.
Are there any non-WoC releases or is GW going with a "1 army per month" schedule?

The CSM thread shows a 5 man cultist box set release, too.

The Warshirne looks like something from Privater Press, the Slannesh Riders look awkward and they would probably fall off their mounts considering the speed that a Seeker moves at. The Khorne Knights aren't very special, considering they are using the same Juggernaut sculpts and slightly modified Chaos Knights. The entire release is a meh, a very big one too.

 blood reaper wrote:
The Warshirne looks like something from Privater Press

Not sure if serious...

 Grimtuff wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
The Warshirne looks like something from Privater Press

Not sure if serious...

Me either, there isn't a single model that looks anything like that from them. I think that's just the new hater way of needling those of us that like good, well written games.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
The Warshirne looks like something from Privater Press

Not sure if serious...

Me either, there isn't a single model that looks anything like that from them. I think that's just the new hater way of needling those of us that like good, well written games.

Closest thing I can think of (mainly as it's in a cabinet to the right of me) is the Throne of Everblight, but even that is pushing it.

I'm really looking forward to the answer.

OT: I do think the Warshrine looks quite funky, esp. those... things carrying it, but it is somewhat too large for my tastes, should be good for cannibalising for other kits.

 Medium of Death wrote:
Chaos in both Fantasy and 40k has been disappointing.

What's going on over at GW?

I don;t know, but I do tend to agree, rather lacklustre releases for chaos recently.

Maybe GW really has no idea what to do with them anymore.

I think the best thing that GW could do for Chaos would be to let FW sculpt the kits from now on.



The Chosen from the DV kit were pretty cool. That looks is the road they should have taken. A multipart plastic kit of that would have been exceptional.

It seems like they are going for weird, but bottling out of making them too weird and just ending up with lame.

Not a huge fan of the warshrine itself, but I'll picking it up because it looks like it will be full of wonderful chaos bits.

I agree that there is a huge disparity between FW sculpt quality and design and GW's.

Perhaps that has to do with lead times, but GW could just as well start sculpting things even further ahead of time.

I'm meh about this one. I was hope for plastic Dragon Ogres personally. The Jugger mounted knights are cool but how could they not be and they'll offer an easy conversion for people's 40k lords but outside of that I'm not really on board.

I'm hoping it's the paint job and picture that makes me almost hate the Slaanesh riders.....

Yeah the paintjobs and backdrops are all very bright for Chaos stuff.

I figured they'd bring out a Valkia model after they brought out the book. Looks really good, might get the model even though I gave up on the Dark Gods and don't play fantasy.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
The Warshirne looks like something from Privater Press

Not sure if serious...

Me either, there isn't a single model that looks anything like that from them. I think that's just the new hater way of needling those of us that like good, well written games.

Ah the Hater thing, knew it would come up, also, I never said Privater Press was bad, but the model simply seemed somewhat like some of the stuff they produced.

War Shrine reminds me of the Coven Throne/Mortis Engine (i.e. mess) although I'd say it's marginally better than that piece. The individual parts do look pretty cool.

Khorne Juggernaughts are fine, Slaneesh riders suffer the same static pose issue as their daemon equivalents.

Anyway, I have quit GW, so my views aren't inconsequential

What the hell is going on with that shrine? It's awful.

And Scylla looks like a mutated gorilla. It's legs are tiny.


I like the Jugger Cav though, and the lady with the wings. They're fantastic.

 blood reaper wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
The Warshirne looks like something from Privater Press

Not sure if serious...

Me either, there isn't a single model that looks anything like that from them. I think that's just the new hater way of needling those of us that like good, well written games.

Ah the Hater thing, knew it would come up, also, I never said Privater Press was bad, but the model simply seemed somewhat like some of the stuff they produced.

Such as...?

Go on, I'll wait.

Went to the guy's photo bucket and I quite like Festus (is that his name?) too. Nice Nurgle mini

 Grimtuff wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
The Warshirne looks like something from Privater Press

Not sure if serious...

Me either, there isn't a single model that looks anything like that from them. I think that's just the new hater way of needling those of us that like good, well written games.

Ah the Hater thing, knew it would come up, also, I never said Privater Press was bad, but the model simply seemed somewhat like some of the stuff they produced.

Such as...?

Go on, I'll wait.

Not for long.

Coven Throne/Mortis Engine

I saw some resemblance.

 blood reaper wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:


Such as...?

Go on, I'll wait.

Not for long.

Coven Throne/Mortis Engine

I saw some resemblance.

Which are both produced by GW.

 kronk wrote:
I take it back.

I don't want any of that for my Chaos Space Marine army.

Are the Juggernaut riders only Khorne? And the altar too? If so, then my enthusiasm has been drained as well...

EDIT: I forgot that Juggers are Khornate beasts already. I can still cut off the symbols if I want I guess.

And after seeing the character models, that Scylla is just atrocious. embarassing for GW if it'd been released 15 years ago.

The Chaos Space Marine codex only allows Juggernauts for dude's with Marks of Korne. They actually look good, but I'm running a Tzeentch army.

The rest of these are meh. Don't want them.

 catharsix wrote:


Are the Juggernaut riders only Khorne? And the altar too? If so, then my enthusiasm has been drained as well...

The War Shrine can't be Khorne. There aren't enough SKULLZ!!!!

Actually, there are surprisingly few SKULLZ on the model. Are we sure this isn't a clever fake

 Flashman wrote:

 catharsix wrote:


Are the Juggernaut riders only Khorne? And the altar too? If so, then my enthusiasm has been drained as well...

The War Shrine can't be Khorne. There aren't enough SKULLZ!!!!

Actually, there are surprisingly few SKULLZ on the model. Are we sure this isn't a clever fake

Who did not give that thing a MoT anyway? :O

The Slaanesh Kinghts remind me of Labyrinth Goblin Knights, for some weird reason. I think it's the legs...

Galgaroth wrote:
The Tzeentch Kinghts remind me of Labyrinth Goblin Knights, for some weird reason. I think it's the legs...

You mean Slaanesh knights. There aren't any Tzeentch releases.

 catharsix wrote:


And after seeing the character models, that Scylla is just atrocious. embarassing for GW if it'd been released 15 years ago.

Ironically enough it reminds me of the end result of a one night stand between PP's Earthborn Dire Troll and the Kriegsaffe from Hellboy.

K, for anyone that has seeing Tomb King War Sphinx, Lizardmen Stegadon, FW Squiggoth, does the chaos war shrine NOT look like its supposed to be a howdah piece mounted on something, say a large mammoth , or blocky type creature.

It looks so unatural with those 2 carrying it, along with the lack of details on the 2 carriers, Im assuming that was not the original plan for this kit.

 LunaHound wrote:
K, for anyone that has seeing Tomb King War Sphinx, Lizardmen Stegadon, FW Squiggoth, does the chaos war shrine NOT look like its supposed to be a howdah piece mounted on something, say a large mammoth , or blocky type creature.

It looks so unatural with those 2 carrying it, along with the lack of details on the 2 carriers, Im assuming that was not the original plan for this kit.

I agree. Perhaps they were going to make a smaller War Mammoth at some point.

 LunaHound wrote:
K, for anyone that has seeing Tomb King War Sphinx, Lizardmen Stegadon, FW Squiggoth, does the chaos war shrine NOT look like its supposed to be a howdah piece mounted on something, say a large mammoth , or blocky type creature.

It looks so unatural with those 2 carrying it, along with the lack of details on the 2 carriers, Im assuming that was not the original plan for this kit.

actually, those bearers are the only thing I like about that whole damn kit.
my god, they could have done a chaos war mammoth, some huge daemon creature, anything, but not this random assortment of **(^*^%*&.

maybe the howdah itself would work nicely for a terrain piece. *maybe*.

edit: not to say I don't like anything in this release. the slaanesh cav is horrid, and so is that wannabe-warpwolf-only-much-uglier, but the khorne cav is awesome and so are many of the characters.
not dynamic enough? those plates on the khorne cav make the model lend itself excellently to reposing, and the characters are finecast, so go at it with a heatgun and repose, repose,repose

The shrine has a Tzeentch vibe all over, but then there is a Khorne symbol on the top

I do like the Jugger Knights, but all in all not impressed by this release.

Ugh, another mini update? This is bollocks. I like Scyla, he's big and mental and old school looks like Trish has done him again (I'm sure she did the original) He looks a lot better than the other crappy chaos spawns. I don't like his collar thing though. Valkia looks horrible and weird because they've made her left handed. She's supposed to look beautiful but looking at the rest of the offerings it seems that 'Eavy Metal have done their usual terrible paint job for the boxes. Why is it when we see what they've been working on they produce perfectly acceptable paint jobs but for these box art pics they paint some god awful clean paint job that ruins the look of the models. It's now standard for people to say "I'll wait until I see it in the flesh" which means that GWs photographers and painters aren't doing their job right. I want to be excited by well painted models not have to figure out if they are worth buying for me to fix up.

So for the end of the year and the last chance before the Hobbit takes over we have one and a half chaos armies that don't excite me at all. There was a time when I wanted everything GW made but this has all been crap. I'm going to take another rain-check on GW this month and buy Angron from FW.

Bloodwin wrote:
Valkia looks horrible and weird because they've made her left handed.

I think I speak for all the Dakka south paws when I say...

 Flashman wrote:

Bloodwin wrote:
Valkia looks horrible and weird because they've made her left handed.

I think I speak for all the sinistra people on Dakka when I say...

Heh, yes I expected that. It's just that it looks rather odd. I guess a part of it is that she has so much 'odd' stuff already. Female and not Slaneesh, Demon shield (which looks boring), spear, wings it's a lot of things that you kind of accept with this curve ball added. I do however need to see the model because looking at the pic she looks butt ugly.

We probably shouldn't judge these models much (yet) due to the fact that we can't gather a whole ton from the pictures, but it's hard not to judge at all after getting a glimpse of them... Thus far, I'm rather unimpressed. Valkia will likely be my first Finecast model (have they gotten better with the air bubbles? Just curious), otherwise, I'm not liking too much of what I'm seeing. The Skullcrushers look kind of cool, but Valkia is pretty much my exception to not having anything Khorne in my army, and I'm not liking anything else yet.

Rather bummed, I had set a hundred dollars aside six months ago in anticipation of this release.
..

Looks pretty meh. I was hoping some of that would be good conversion material for CSM, but nope, just boring fantasy crap with delicate poses and silliness.

The WD photos of the new CSM models were very off putting. I really don't like the new style they are using.

I'm not sold on any of these.

Add me to the 'disappointed at lack of mammoth' pile, too.

The static poses of the riders kinda kill these otherwise cool minis. I'll have to see how to change that.

Edit: That picture came from Kurl's photobucket (url somewhere above). There are a couple more of the scs and the shrine.

Whats the purpose of Slanesh Marauder riders?
I liked their light cavalry...

Well since they are mixing mortals and demons,
will anyone object to using bloodcrushers as khorn crushers?

For those who didn't see them. I also updated my page 3 post with them:









In response to the Slaanesh Knight things:

I LOVE that big red Fella !


The Rest.... Meh. Don't even do a WFB army, but i like Hellboy over there


Also, i like the Cultists in there, as that can only mean good things !

Upon seeing clearer pictures, Valkia is amazing. Definitely don't care for the Slaanesh riders (seriously, the steeds look like the exact same steeds from the Seekers box), the Warshrine looks better but I still don't think I'll buy it, and Syclla, he's okay, I guess?

The extra weapons look nice too. I won't be buying them, however, as it'll probably be twenty dollars just for the five.

Edit: Someone said that the Warshrine looks quite Tzeentch, but bears a Khorne symbol at the top. I agree, that's so weird.

 The Fragile Breath wrote:


Edit: Someone said that the Warshrine looks quite Tzeentch, but bears a Khorne symbol at the top. I agree, that's so weird.

I have a feeling that if the carriers were painted with red flesh and the litter itself weren't silver, we wouldn't be saying that. Nothing but the paint job screams Tzeentch to me.

So what's with the 40k cultists?

Sorry, I just linked all the pics of the upcoming releases. Hence cultists and Dwarfy McAbrams.

 Aerethan wrote:
Sorry, I just linked all the pics of the upcoming releases. Hence cultists and Dwarfy McAbrams.

I get that. I am asking if anyone knows why there is a picture of the cultists in White Dwarf.....

 SickSix wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
Sorry, I just linked all the pics of the upcoming releases. Hence cultists and Dwarfy McAbrams.

I get that. I am asking if anyone knows why there is a picture of the cultists in White Dwarf.....

Because they're releasing a snap fit box of 3 Autogun cultists and 2 pistol/CCW cultists.

Worst idea ever, so if I want a 35 man unit of CC cultists i have to buy 18 of these boxes... guardsmen and whatever close combat weapons i can get hold of it is then...

Beefy humans on Slaaneshi steeds seems wrong, and not in a good way.

 kronk wrote:
I take it back.

I don't want any of that for my Chaos Space Marine army.

Not even the Cultist set of 5?

I honestly have to say that the hellflayers are one of the few slaaneshi models I do like apart from Sigvald. Sure they're a little static but it really looks like classic WoC to me, which is better than the overly elaborate/busy-looking monstrocity that is the warshrine (also how are you supposed to hide that now against cannons? Most monsters in WHFB aren't that tall!) honestly if I got a warshrine i'd break it down and use it for parts (unit fillers, terrain, characters are what the components would be perfect for).

Too bad we haven't gotten a look at the rules yet.

 Mantle wrote:
Worst idea ever, so if I want a 35 man unit of CC cultists i have to buy 18 of these boxes...

Or you could just go on ebay like everyone else who stops for a split second to think.

 Ehsteve wrote:
I honestly have to say that the hellflayers are one of the few slaaneshi models I do like apart from Sigvald. Sure they're a little static but it really looks like classic WoC to me, which is better than the overly elaborate/busy-looking monstrocity that is the warshrine (also how are you supposed to hide that now against cannons? Most monsters in WHFB aren't that tall!) honestly if I got a warshrine i'd break it down and use it for parts (unit fillers, terrain, characters are what the components would be perfect for).

Too bad we haven't gotten a look at the rules yet.

They're on Warseer. Crushers are pretty much exactly Knights on Juggers. The Slaanesh guys are Marauders on Steeds, can buy ASF, and gain benefits for killing units.

The Marauders just look like they’re going to break the Steeds. Far too big and comically beefy, and they look like they were designed independently of the Steeds as they don’t appear to be riding them.

And that Altar does look like it was meant to go on top of something grand, not on two weird Chaos giants.

I really like the war shrine. There has to be quite few options in that kit. The cool part is, its not what everyone expected.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
2012: The year that WFB got a whopping 2 army books, both in the first 4 months.

GW might simply be aware of 8th not being quite as good as they thought it was...WHFB became a lot less popular in our area, same applies for other parts of Germany I know people from. Most stores barely have WHF events anymore and if they do, those usually are 1500 or less points (which really is so little compared to the tourney size of 3k points). A lot of people I know (including myself) sold their WHFB armies in order to buy 40k stuff or gave up on tabletop altogether.

...and with 8th in mind: rightfully so.

Don't even get this debate started. It won't end well.

_Tim?

 Platuan4th wrote:

 SickSix wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
Sorry, I just linked all the pics of the upcoming releases. Hence cultists and Dwarfy McAbrams.

I get that. I am asking if anyone knows why there is a picture of the cultists in White Dwarf.....

Because they're releasing a snap fit box of 3 Autogun cultists and 2 pistol/CCW cultists.

Awesome. looks like GW will actually get my money this month. I passes on the winged Helldrake and the Maulerfiend because they were just too goofy, and GW hasn't updated any of the other CSM sculpts. Chaos Spawn look passable but their rules aren't that great, Posessed would need a big expensive conversion and rule-wise they're still not as good as CSM Terminators, and you need a Land Raider for any elites choice you take and I don't feel like dropping that much money on that kit given the economy.

The cultists look good, but I suspect buying doubles of the DV cultist squads on ebay is the better value.

As for the Chaos releases, they all look average. Everyone else has pointed out the problems with the Slaaneshs stuff, Festus looks awful, Scylla looks bad, the Female Khornate girl may look passable, depending on what she looks like in the flesh.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Wow, these minis are all over the place. The war alter looks like its was assembled randomly from a bitz-box. The Hell Knights are solid though. The characters range from all right to WTF? The Hellstriders are lazier that the Seeker and Chariots were: whips from the Slaanesh Chariot, mounts from the Seekers box, legs from Dark Elves, and shields lifted from Sigvald and the Champion on Boobworm. Their pose so relaxed you'd think they were riding in a parade, rather than charging across a battlefield. Oh well, there are still plenty of bits to salvage for my Slaaneshi Daemons and Emperor Children. Would have be nice if they were mounted of plastic Boobworms or Fiends though.

I've never been a big fan of chaos stuff, but these last two releases (for 40k and fantasy) have just really left me cold.

I did like most of the Chaos stuff in Dark Vengenance, but the rest is starting to feel really ... goofy?

 Sersi wrote:
Wow, these minis are all over the place. The war alter looks like its was assembled randomly from a bitz-box. The Hell Knights are solid though. The characters range from all right to WTF? The Hellstriders are lazier that the Seeker and Chariots were: whips from the Slaanesh Chariot, mounts from the Seekers box, legs from Dark Elves, and shields lifted from Sigvald and the Champion on Boobworm. Their pose so relaxed you'd think they were riding in a parade, rather than charging across a battlefield. Oh well, there are still plenty of bits to salvage for my Slaaneshi Daemons and Emperor Children. Would have be nice if they were mounted of plastic Boobworms or Fiends though.

While I agree that the Hellstriders were a lazy sculpt, I cant help but feel like the pose isn't half bad... depending on how you look at it. While they are being used in a "battle," we're still talking about Slaanesh here. A bunch of self-indulged, gaudy, overly excessive guys riding some ravishing otherworldy mounts. Honestly, they could probably care less that they're even fighting so long as they look good... hell, they probably think they're in a parade!

Knights on fiends for counts-as Skullcrushers isn't a half bad idea though...

I like that Valkia isn't festooned with Chaos icons. I can file off the few on her, give her a head, base and shield swap, and have a perfectly good armoured female vampire with wings. The wings are definitely bat-like enough.

I think we should probably wait for better pictures, before total judgement.

Some of the Chaos stuff, looked much better with updated pictures, some looked worse (The Dragon, to me).

Things look alright, for the moment.

Aside from what has already been said, why the hell is the White Dwarf figure a movie director? I could make a joke about too many executives watering things down to a thin joke of a former glory, but I will just go with 'LoTR/The Hobbit ruins everything'.

Also, Jervis onna crutch, is that White Dwarf cover terrible or what?

Belverker over at Warseer wrote:The Bloodcrushers and this new unit are the same price in Australia...and unfortunately at least in Aus we won't get the rules supplement until the December issue as it didn't make it in time. Not sure if this is true for the rest of the world or not.
(...)Was shown an email to my local store from GW Aus

And here a concept sketch of Scyla

 -Loki- wrote:
I like that Valkia isn't festooned with Chaos icons. I can file off the few on her, give her a head, base and shield swap, and have a perfectly good armoured female vampire with wings. The wings are definitely bat-like enough.

Hey, that's a good idea. I could make an 'ascended' version of my current female Vampire Lord.

To Hell with the Chaos WoC (well maybe except the Juggernauts), I want the White Dwarf Director.

That's not what I had in mind when I imagined a warshrine. It's a mess. It looks like they didn't want to make it overtly dedicated to one god so they made it not devoted to anything.
Those khorne knights also look amazingly boring, like a patchwork of blood crushers and chaos knights with champion heads. They look more like a moderately-skilled conversion than an official release. Since most of the more recent fantasy releases have been really amazing, this one looks really lackluster by comparison.

Juggers are ok, I'm not really interested in the other stuff. Not having a chariot has been a big letdown.

Warshrine looks like it was made by 4 different people.

 Aerethan wrote:
I agree that there is a huge disparity between FW sculpt quality and design and GW's.

Perhaps that has to do with lead times, but GW could just as well start sculpting things even further ahead of time.

Ironically, the Warhammer Forge sculptors have far less time to produce a figure than the studio sculptors

Juggers look pretty good, I actually like Scyla quite a bit from what I can see.

Warshrine........................... whooops . I wonder if the dragon ogres will be that bad, as rumored...

The sad thing about the Warshrine is that they could have simply taken a Thundertusk, put a random chaos character on top with a suitable banner, and it would have looked about ten times better.

If only I could get the dwarf director without having to buy him off eBay or get a subscription to white dwarf. Would be a fun add on to a dwarf bloodbowl team. But as it would be too much on eBay I guess its a pass.

The HöllenJäger des Slaanesh look so awkward because the crazy chickens look small compared to the riders, and the dangling legs never looked good in the first place. Same as with their Daemonic counterpart.

The Warshrine probably has lots of options we haven't seen yet, and putting the Khorne symbol on the not so Khorne looking/painted one could just be a studio feth-up they didn't have time to correct before it had to be photographed for WD.

Also, I guess the size of the base will probably make a lot of people's own builds/conversions useless?


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 His Master's Voice wrote:
The sad thing about the Warshrine is that they could have simply taken a Thundertusk, put a random chaos character on top with a suitable banner, and it would have looked about ten times better.

Maybe put the top/howda-thing on a Stonehorn or converted Thundertusk.

I don't know if it would work out or if the Stonehorn fits on the Warshrine base, but it could be the start of something.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Belverker over at Warseer wrote:The Bloodcrushers and this new unit are the same price in Australia...and unfortunately at least in Aus we won't get the rules supplement until the December issue as it didn't make it in time. Not sure if this is true for the rest of the world or not.
(...)Was shown an email to my local store from GW Aus

And here a concept sketch of Scyla

Nice!

He needs to be painted in purple and green!

Quick, someone 'shop that up for us!

As an aside, I can build a far more dynamic Valkia with a DE Scourge set and a chaos knight shield.

Which I just might do.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
The sad thing about the Warshrine is that they could have simply taken a Thundertusk, put a random chaos character on top with a suitable banner, and it would have looked about ten times better.

True. But the entire, slightly more "gritty" theme of bloodthirsty, furs-&-axes Warrior Hordes from the icy north (with only a sprinkling of eye-searing-mad-colours-Chaos) seems to have gone in favour of a full-out-weirdness-aesthetic that is closer to a full-fledged Daemons army than a "warrior horde" army.

I am really not impressed with the models, the jugs look solid and I really like the nurgle poo poo guy. Was thinking about getting a warshine for my chaos dwarfs but that thing is a mess.

Really scared what 2013 holds for fantasy if this is the quality we get. Guess we'll see when High elves are released.

 pities2004 wrote:
the jugs look solid

I always thought Valkia had a pretty face...
She was described having that, and the art had it allright.
The miniature though..

 Kanluwen wrote:

 kronk wrote:
I take it back.

I don't want any of that for my Chaos Space Marine army.

Not even the Cultist set of 5?

Nah. I'll buy some DV Cultist bundles off ebay for cheaper if I wanted a squad of the!

I'll probably just do Traitor Legion Guard with Cadian models and Pig Iron head swaps.

And here a concept sketch of Scyla


Nice!

He needs to be painted in purple and green!

Quick, someone 'shop that up for us!

Your wish is my command

Spoiler:

Crude, but then so's the sculpt

I don't know what's going on, last month I thought of Dinoriders, this month it's a cross between the Incredible Hulk & Donkey Kong drinking down their steroids with Red Bull. I can see what they were trying to do, maybe, but he's not gribbly enough for me, even with the Tremor tongue as a tail