What is your favorite obscure marine chapter? This can't be a chapter made up by a player. It has to be a chapter that has been mentioned in a codex or book or White Dwarf or something. GW has to have created this chapter. But it has to be cool... and it has to be relatively obscure. Also, let us know why you think it is cool.

Edit: oh yeah, where is this chapter mentioned? (book/codex name)

Minotaurs. Enforcers for the High Lords of Terra, access to the best equipment, extremely ferocious in combat.

Minotaurs are my favorite.

Does the Alpha Legion count as being obscure?

I'm actually partial to the Exorcists. I'm not sure if they're obscure or not, but I rarely hear about them so I'm assuming as such. Other than that, I can't remember any lesser known Chapters off the top of my head.

look at my signature... Look At It


my army has only been briefly mentioned in some places and has only one story to it's name.

Red Templars

I'm into a lot of obscure marine chapters. You probably haven't heard of them.

Mortifactors. Just because you're a genetically engineered post-human doesn't mean you have to give up your animistic belief that eating your dead foes will make you stronger, or that a deep meditative trance will cause the Emperor to send you visions.

And all of that while still having the least-cool geneseed.

Ultramarines.

Mentors are pretty cool, and I'm very tempted to turn my Imperial Fists into Lamenters (although they're probably just becoming the Yellow Body Grey Shoulders.) I think I'll have to skim through my FW copies to check out the Minotaurs fluff though, they sound like they might be interesting if they're suitably grimdark.

I suspect the Blood Ravens don't count as obscure enough for this thread...

Carcharodons! They are the space sharks and their is a lot of good info about them in the Badab war books. Their leader has chain fist lightning claws and they all go into a blood frenzy when they fight. They are a pure crusading chapter that operates outside the imperium and when they came to help out at the Badab war, their imperial codes were extremely old.

Red Scorpions!

Rainbow Warriors!!!

i think there has only been a single piece of art, and no fiction, but they have spawned a huge fanbase...
plus, they look awesome as Aztec Space Marines...

i'm more inspired to paint Space Sharks though...
the new Maori style markings, and classic pale skin with black eyes and red face paint, just plain awesome...
now i just have to learn to sculpt little shark tooth necklaces...

cheers
jah

Novamarines.

Cool name, cool colour scheme, cool gene-seed.

Angels of Vengeance

Relictors, cool auxtere/no-nonsense color scheme, and the use chaos against chaos thing was pretty cool. If I were to start a more obscure chapter, they'd easily be in the top 5.

Marines Malevolent, when you need results and dont care about the methods, these are the go to guys, besides I love the "I dont care what your primarch is" attitude of them.

Will be continuing my expansion of this army when I relocate.

Either Minotaurs, largely because of Asterion Moloch (by the Nine he looks cool), or Lamenters.

 Dheneb wrote:
Either Minotaurs, largely because of Asterion Moloch (by the Nine he looks cool), or Lamenters.

..is that an Elder Scroll quote.

(Space?) Invaders. Granted, I don't like Space Marines, so that's probably my reason for liking Invaders chapter.

There are a few ones that really appeal to me. The Exorcists are a truly unique chapter since, if the rumors are true (and lets face it, its 40k, they are always true) they have all their recruits undergo demonic possession and then exorcism in order to better prepare them to fight chaos. The Death Specters, in addition to having an amazing name, enjoy hanging out in the Ghoul Stars, which are arguably more dangerous than the Eye of Terror (note that what is effectively that capital city for the Flayed Ones is located in the Ghoul stars and is one of the tamer planets noted).

Mantis Warriors. These crazy fethers hid themselves beneath the desert sands to ambush a Dark Eldar raiding party.

I am torn between the Mentor Legion and the Celestial Lions. Both seem like cool, honourable Chapters; with the Mentors I dig their teacher mentality, and the Lions have a very nice gold-and-blue colour scheme plus a tragic backstory.

White Consuls for me. If i could actualy paint a good white ( white primer + some black wash doesn't count ) then i would have an army of them.

Blood Megapies are the coolest of marines, "We got no geneseed, no production abilities, no funding and no supllies-we just collect "misplaced" imperial/SM equipment all over the place."

Mentor Legion with their original fluff

Black Dragons, all I know is that they have bony growths from their elbows that they utilize as extra combat blades.

Doom Eagles have my vote.

Storm Wardens are my favourite obscure chapter.

Deathwatch Core RPG book

I liked the Celestial Lions, myself.

Their color scheme leaves a bit to be desired, but as far as obscure chapters go, their lore is cool.

codemonkey wrote:
Mortifactors. Just because you're a genetically engineered post-human doesn't mean you have to give up your animistic belief that eating your dead foes will make you stronger, or that a deep meditative trance will cause the Emperor to send you visions.

And all of that while still having the least-cool geneseed.

I agree with this 100%

I loved the Mortifactors after reading them in the Ultramarines omnibus. So dark and mysterious and the way they go about battle, so awesome

Raptors! Second Founding from the Raven Guard. Think for themselves instead of blindly following the book Guilliman compiled.


http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Raptors

Minotaurs. Nothing says murder better than the state's highest approval.

mine are the sons of medusa, there is a story there but they arent flaunted by GW.

my brother told me about the soul drinkers i like them interesting back round on them.

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
Minotaurs are my favorite.

Same here, the Space Cow concept is a successor chapter idea, as I tended to charge into melee even when it wasn't necessary.

Astral Knights. They sacrificed their entire chapter to destroy the Necron planet destroyer World Engine.

The Ultramarines retrieved the Knights' Battle Barge, Tempestus, which was used to ram and destroy the World Engine and placed it on the lifeless world of Safehold, the World Engine's last victim. Captain Donatos Aphael of the Blood Angels 2nd Company called for 772 statues--one for each Astral Knight--to be raised on Safehold alongside the wreckage of the Tempestus as a monument to the fallen chapter. From that day on, two Blood Angels of the 2nd Company and dozens of other Space Marines stand guard over the memorial at all times, which is considered a singular honor for the Marines who fought alongside the Astral Knights for the last time.

"No brother falls forgotten."

Knights of Blood (loyalish right)

Minotaurs.

They are the best parts of the several First Founding Legions, lumped into one.

-Terra's Personal Strike-force (Space Wolves)

-Best Equipment, and lots of it (Salamanders)

-They love dat close combat (Blood Angels)

Plus, they almost always operate in full chapter-strength, and beat the piss out of an Ultramarines Successor chapter.

Angels Sanguine. Their red/black scheme looks fantastic, their background (noble heroes with the dark flaw) is also super-cool, along with the secrets hidden in their fortress monastery. Their like the Dark Angels but with more Blood. Also their Chapter Master Sentikan is a badass. When one of his brothers falls and a Blood Angel goes to remove the his helmet Sentikan leaps over and threatens to kill anyone who tries to remove the fallen Angel Sanguine's helmet. Ruthless.

Mentors from WD ~100
They field-test experimental equipment, such as time-jumpers, and squad-wide targetting matrices.
They wear green on white.

Death Spectres

Love these guys; albino guardians against a mysterious alien threat. Really cool.

Mentor Legion, from the 80s.

Not only their chapter Master saw the Emperor in person numerous times (Big E needed a decent worthy bridge partner), but he fields test experimental Ad Mech. devices, always on loan to other Adeptus (in small groups), secret HQ, and the Elite Cadre are basically the Delta Force of the NAVY SEAL of the Adeptus Astartes.

Plus check out the art!


I'm painting my scouts and my Captain with the Owl's head, way cooler than some generic red eagle's head they have nowadays.

 LavuranGuard wrote:
Mentor Legion with their original fluff

This, Minotaurs have nothing on time-shifting Marines with targeting arrays and a whole host of crazy experimental equipment!

 pretre wrote:
I'm into a lot of obscure marine chapters. You probably haven't heard of them.

This made me laugh out loud. People are staring at me now...


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Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Mentor Legion, from the 80s.

Not only their chapter Master saw the Emperor in person numerous times (Big E needed a decent worthy bridge partner), but he fields test experimental Ad Mech. devices, always on loan to other Adeptus (in small groups), secret HQ, and the Elite Cadre are basically the Delta Force of the NAVY SEAL of the Adeptus Astartes.

Plus check out the art!


I'm painting my scouts and my Captain with the Owl's head, way cooler than some generic red eagle's head they have nowadays.

I've always thought that particular piece of art looks soooo incredibly stupid. Then again, most of the old stuff does.

Don't you guys think that looks like a Storm Talon gunship on the stained glass?

 JbR of the Endless Spire wrote:
Don't you guys think that looks like a Storm Talon gunship on the stained glass?

...huh. So it does.

I'm suprised that no one mentioned the Iron Snakes. Maybe they aren't obscure enough?! Fight like Delian warriors from ancient Greece, use a quasi-phalanx weapon load out, mimic the best of Corinth and Sparta... operate as legendary super tactical squads, and I think that they have a solid look to them.

Hawk lords or space sharks

 Lobukia wrote:
I'm suprised that no one mentioned the Iron Snakes. Maybe they aren't obscure enough?! Fight like Delian warriors from ancient Greece, use a quasi-phalanx weapon load out, mimic the best of Corinth and Sparta... operate as legendary super tactical squads, and I think that they have a solid look to them.

The only chapter that uses harpoon as the standard CC weapon

 jah-joshua wrote:
Rainbow Warriors!!!

i think there has only been a single piece of art, and no fiction, but they have spawned a huge fanbase...
plus, they look awesome as Aztec Space Marines...

Actually, two.

There's a picture of a Space Nun in the Rogue Trader book blasting a Marine with the Rainbow Warriors heraldry.

Wait... These guys?

Celestial Lions would be my pick. I loved the gold mixed with cool blue, plus a very tragic backstory as others have said.

I have an army of them, at work right now so can't post pictures, but you could search celestial lions in google images or deviantart to see them.

I like the Lamenters' heroic but doomed struggle against the 'Nids.
I'm also a fan of the White Scars, or are they not obscure enough? Everybody seems to have forgotten them, anyway...

Finally, the Legion of the Damned always draws my interest.

Iron hands maybe? Founding Chapter and yet so ltitle story that they might as well not exist.

 Lobukia wrote:
I'm suprised that no one mentioned the Iron Snakes. Maybe they aren't obscure enough?! Fight like Delian warriors from ancient Greece, use a quasi-phalanx weapon load out, mimic the best of Corinth and Sparta... operate as legendary super tactical squads, and I think that they have a solid look to them.

I was gonna go with them, but decided they were too mainstream with the amount of people butthurt about their book

Either the Mantis Warriors or the Red Scorpions get my vote.

Tiger Claws

I'm fond of the Flesh Eaters. They were my first Space Marine army back in the day, andy my current "Blood Angels" force is still painted in their insiginia.

Got to love "space cannibals" after all!

TR

Edit:

I've always thought that particular piece of art looks soooo incredibly stupid. Then again, most of the old stuff does.

Bite your tongue!
Sheesh. Kids these days. No apreciation for tradition....

 Ronin wrote:
Mantis Warriors. These crazy fethers hid themselves beneath the desert sands to ambush a Dark Eldar raiding party.

Source? I haven't read about this....

Oh and for my 2p......Mentor Legion, Rainbow Warriors...or my other fave "The Howling Griffons"

Forgot about the Lamenters, I'm fan of them as well, if for no other reason than it is incredibly hard to dislike the chapter that basically exists for the sole purpose of absorbing bad luck and getting messed with. To give you an idea of how much it sucks to be a Lamenter:

1. They were founded during the 21st founding, thus nobody trusts them. They are BA successors but by some twist of fate lacked the Red Thirst and Black Rage.
2. During the 9th crusade, they were abandoned by the chapter that was supposed to be supporting them (the Mortifactors) because they were from the 21st founding and the Mortifactors didn't trust them. The near full strength chapter was reduced to two companies before reinforcements arrived.
3. They then got trapped in a warp storm. Although they managed to fight their way out, they are now trusted even less.
4. Were ordered onto a crusade with 300 marines, 200 of those marines were casualties.
5. After rebuilding their chapter, they were assigned to defend against the Maelstrom under the Astral Claws, who befriended the chapter. When the Badab War broke out, they sided with the Claws until the Minotaurs cut the chapter down to between 3 and 4 companies, only to later find out the extent of Huron's treachery.
6. During their 100 year crusade of repentance, one of the first things they run into is Hive Fleet Kraken. Not a splinter fleet, but the full god damn fleet. It then proceeded to cause massive damage to the chapter.
7. There are rumours that the Black Rage is begining to resurface in the survivors of the chapter.

Basically, the Lamenters are the Sisters of Battle of the Space Marine chapters. I would not be surprised if in the next GK codex a squad of 5 PAGK's decides to kill 3/4's of the chapter so they can use their dicks as some sort of protective ward against Slaneesh or something.

They're power armored Gibby

Black dragons or dark hunters.

 Trench-Raider wrote:


Got to love "space cannibals" after all!

So, a night lords fan, then?

 Trench-Raider wrote:

Edit:

I've always thought that particular piece of art looks soooo incredibly stupid. Then again, most of the old stuff does.

Bite your tongue!
Sheesh. Kids these days. No apreciation for tradition....

No, it's not that. It's just that I don't suffer from Nostalgia Bias. Doing something just because it's tradition, is stupid.

People who like that old sh*t is just like those people who grew up with glam-rock-hair and Ball sweaters in the 80's, who wants to bring that cr*p back.

Oh I got Obscure chapter, and they had the coolest Helmets! Therefore, better than any other Marine ever.


Adeptus Arbites? Pfff!..Field Police, Flag included.

Iron hands, Sons of medusa, Knights of blood,

Mentors and the Field Police!

I like the old Space Sharks and Flesh Eaters. What's scarier than a 7 foot tall psycho in a ton of armor? A 7 foot tall psycho in a ton of armor with TEETH painted on their helmets!

I'm a fan of the Knights of Blood as well simply for the fact that there's so little information on them. It's fun to guess exactly what caused their actions to be condemned by the Inquisition when other Chapters get away with causing countless civilian deaths as well (I'm looking at you, Marines Malevolent).

Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Oh I got Obscure chapter, and they had the coolest Helmets! Therefore, better than any other Marine ever.


Adeptus Arbites? Pfff!..Field Police, Flag included.

Field Police weren't a Chapter but rather a type of specialist within a Chapter.

 Kingsley wrote:

Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Oh I got Obscure chapter, and they had the coolest Helmets! Therefore, better than any other Marine ever.


Adeptus Arbites? Pfff!..Field Police, Flag included.

Field Police weren't a Chapter but rather a type of specialist within a Chapter.

Maybe so, but I'll still make some.

Looks like all mine were said but:

Celestial lions-noble warriors betrayed

Relicators-fight fire with fire

Exorcists-it's for your own good honest

Space Sharks-arch enemies of the Space jets

Howling Griffons- mad props to anyone who can paint them

For me it is the White Panthers or the White Consuls. Panthers got mentioned in the original marine codex as being ruthless very much like the Marines Malevolent and the White Consuls are a codex chapter but have 2 chapter masters and were well described in one of the Word Bearer books.

 Kingsley wrote:

Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Oh I got Obscure chapter, and they had the coolest Helmets! Therefore, better than any other Marine ever.


Adeptus Arbites? Pfff!..Field Police, Flag included.

Field Police weren't a Chapter but rather a type of specialist within a Chapter.

I was gonna say...

But I like the idea of somebody making a Field Police chapter.

Know I've thought of doing an urban war SWAT type chapter...

What's Field Police in Latin anyway?

Ager vigilum according to Google Translate.

For me it's the White Consuls. Zealous Drop Pod specialists with a great colour scheme.

The Marines Malevolent are really cool as well though. Cold, arrogant and effective.

Fire Hawks. You know why?

There's also another, nice term for them.

Legion of the Damned.

Do chaos chapters count? Cause I have to say that I love the Sons of Malice. Go Malal!

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Know I've thought of doing an urban war SWAT type chapter...

What's Field Police in Latin anyway?

I'm not sure I've got the conjugation right here, but Campo Custodes would be near to what you want, I think.

Biased towards the Flesh eaters! solid red armour, BA rules, bloodthirsty teetering on the verge of falling into darkness while trying to prove themselves as loyal servants of the Emperor, hinted that some of their brothers turned to Khorne due to the lure of bloodshed and ambushed the rest of the company causing a massive brutal battle between brother marines! they're very akin to the Flesh 'Tearers' but i believe just a little more unhinged and just as nasty!

and lastly I nearly have 5,000 points of them so I really do have to say them! ;-)

No, it's not that. It's just that I don't suffer from Nostalgia Bias. Doing something just because it's tradition, is stupid.

People who like that old sh*t is just like those people who grew up with glam-rock-hair and Ball sweaters in the 80's, who wants to bring that cr*p back.

No you don't. You suffer from a quite different malady. It's one quite similar to what you see with many teenagers when it comes to discusing music: the whole "If it's more than six months old, it's 'old' and therefore somehow 'bad/stupid/lame/whatever'".
Son, if it were not for that "stupid old suff" laying the groundwork, the game you presumably enjoy would not exist today. Show it some respect.(I actually prefer the lder stuff not only out of nostalgia, but I like the simply. cleaner lines to the over-done over-cluttered stuff of today. But that's another subject..)

Let me guess. You're one of those tiresome knee jerk Squat haters too....

TR

Trench-Raider wrote:Let me guess. You're one of those tiresome knee jerk Squat haters too....

Presumably it's acceptable to hate Squats if you were playing when they were still around? I hope so, because I was, and I hated them then and now.

Ultramarines

 cheapbuster wrote:
Ultramarines

Who? You made that one up.

 htj wrote:

Trench-Raider wrote:Let me guess. You're one of those tiresome knee jerk Squat haters too....

Presumably it's acceptable to hate Squats if you were playing when they were still around? I hope so, because I was, and I hated them then and now.

If you have a valid reason. I would disagre of course. But if it's something like "I just don't like Dwaves in any form", then that's a valid reason. Too often you see kids who have never seen a Squat miniature in person paroting the same tired old myths and generally giving the impression that they are just saying so because it's the "cool" thing to do rather than actually forming a valid opinion. The whole "hurr hurr, if it's old it am the suxX0r" drivel that Sgtsixkilla spouts abouve is much the same.

Anyway, this is supposed to be a "fun" thread, so this will be my last words on the issue.

TR

 Trench-Raider wrote:

No, it's not that. It's just that I don't suffer from Nostalgia Bias. Doing something just because it's tradition, is stupid.

People who like that old sh*t is just like those people who grew up with glam-rock-hair and Ball sweaters in the 80's, who wants to bring that cr*p back.

No you don't. You suffer from a quite different malady. It's one quite similar to what you see with many teenagers when it comes to discusing music: the whole "If it's more than six months old, it's 'old' and therefore somehow 'bad/stupid/lame/whatever'".

Nope. I judge art by it's quality, not it's age. I've seen old(er) 40K artwork of high quality, but the terrible, cartoonie, perspective-less, disproportionate stuff outweighs it by a major margin. Fact is that most of the new artwork is of higher quality, it's made by people who understands perspective and proportions, and it's more dynamic and detailed and a lot more "realistic". If you don't like any of that, sure. You would like the outdated stuff.

 Trench-Raider wrote:
Son, if it were not for that "stupid old suff" laying the groundwork, the game you presumably enjoy would not exist today. Show it some respect.(I actually prefer the lder stuff not only out of nostalgia, but I like the simply. cleaner lines to the over-done over-cluttered stuff of today. But that's another subject..)

Let me guess. You're one of those tiresome knee jerk Squat haters too....

TR

Grandpa, I don't care if the cr*p laid the foundation for the good stuff. The prevailing factor is that the cr*p is still cr*p. I don't have to think that cave paintings are masterpieces, just because they laid the groundwork for Rembrand's Night Watch (one of my absolute favourite artworks of all time). The fact remains that Night Watch is a higher quality work than Stick Man Throwing Stick at Stick Animal. But De gustibus non est disputandum, I guess.


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 Trench-Raider wrote:

The whole "hurr hurr, if it's old it am the suxX0r" drivel that Sgtsixkilla spouts abouve is much the same.
TR

WTF? I hate defending myself to morons, so I won't. Except to say that nothing I've said so far has even remotely resembled that reasoning, I've given you my reasons for why I think most of the old artwork is sh*t. You're the one with the kneejerk reaction to what I said. That, and you don't know sh*t about me.

EDIT: Oh, and there's no doubt whatsoever that you suffer from nostalgia bias. Just so you know.

Calm down, SgtSixkilla, it's really not important. Not worth losing your head over, eh?

 htj wrote:
Calm down, SgtSixkilla, it's really not important. Not worth losing your head over, eh?

The discussion, no. The condescending tone of that guy, yes. Plus, he's the one losing his head over the fact that I criticised his beloved childhood wet dreams.

 SgtSixkilla wrote:

 htj wrote:
Calm down, SgtSixkilla, it's really not important. Not worth losing your head over, eh?

The discussion, no. The condescending tone of that guy, yes. Plus, he's the one losing his head over the fact that I criticised his beloved childhood wet dreams.

Still no. I didn't like TR's tone either, hence my snarky reply, but getting angry never solves anything. Unless, possibly, you're the Hulk.

Purple Stars, Iron Hearts and the Avenging Sons are some of my favorites.

I'd have to say either Red Templars (because I'm a Black Templars fan too), or the Space Sharks cause their actual name is awesome beyond belief. Those two definitely win it for me.

 htj wrote:

Unless, possibly, you're the Hulk.

Isn't that a coincidence... I do turn green once in a while, but only my hands, and then only when I'm painting my Orks. I guess that doesn't count.

Anyway. I've said what I needed to say, so unless there are any more dumbarse comments incoming from that guy, I'm done.


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And to contribute to this thread:

I don't know if they count as being obscure (being in the BA codex and all), but I really like the Flesh Tearers paint scheme. (If they're the dark red ones with black helmets and shoulder pads.)

Oooh...looks like I touched a nerve...

Grandpa, I don't care if the cr*p laid the foundation for the good stuff. The prevailing factor is that the cr*p is still cr*p. I don't have to think that cave paintings are masterpieces, just because they laid the groundwork for Rembrand's Night Watch (one of my absolute favourite artworks of all time). The fact remains that Night Watch is a higher quality work than Stick Man Throwing Stick at Stick Animal. But De gustibus non est disputandum, I guess.

Litle boy, using an extreme example/comparison like that only helps to undermine your point and make yourself look bad. I freely admit the classic bit of art posted above (many people have seen it because it was at the very from of the 40k Comdendium after all) is not the highest quality I've seen. But your knee-jerk dismissal of most older 40k art was needlessly broad and to be honest ill considered. I'll counter your statement that most early art was crap with one name: Paul Bonner. You may have seen his work. He did the lion's share of the Space Ork art in the three Ork RT Ork books as well as most of the Squat stuff and early Imperial Guard material. I have not seen anything by him in a GW book for years, but it's at least as good as or better than much of the recent material.

WTF? I hate defending myself to morons, so I won't. Except to say that nothing I've said so far has even remotely resembled that reasoning, I've given you my reasons for why I think most of the old artwork is sh*t. You're the one with the kneejerk reaction to what I said. That, and you don't know sh*t about me.

Charming language.
In any event, I know everything I need to know about you based upon your frothing at the mouth tone in your posts, your faulty comparisons, and your needlessly broad statements. It's pretty clear my initial assessment of you was spot on.

Oh, and there's no doubt whatsoever that you suffer from nostalgia bias. Just so you know.

Heh, I freely admit my biases. Too bad you can;t do the same.

Anyway, this thread is not about the quality of old art vs recent examples, so I'll bow out now. I'll allow you the last word. Try not to spew too much froth on the keyboard when you type it. I'm nice that way.

Love and kisses.
TR

You two still at it?

Save some bandwidth and lets just say your guys favorite lesser known chapter is the Angry Marines.

Dammit I missed all the arguing.

Squats are pretty silly, old players can use them in thier IG armies. I understand short humans and like the regular trooper models, but the other dwarfy fantasy cr*p with silly armor (and bikers) was almost as bad as the Mantic dwarves.

I think Orks are truly the worst cr*p and sh*t. Really fungus monsters? So stupid. Eldar are silly too, but evil dominatrix space elves jump the shark.

Speaking of sharks, I would vote for Space Sharks, despite the atrocious name. Space Shark Field Police for me.

the Fire Hawks after all they fought in the Badab War and then were trapped in the warp and became the most powerful force the imperium has ever seen. Undying ghosts whos weapons bypass ever the most powerful armor. the Legion of the Damned

The Exorcists and Lamenters.

Baconfat wrote:
Dammit I missed all the arguing.

Squats are pretty silly, old players can use them in thier IG armies. I understand short humans and like the regular trooper models, but the other dwarfy fantasy cr*p with silly armor (and bikers) was almost as bad as the Mantic dwarves.

I think Orks are truly the worst cr*p and sh*t. Really fungus monsters? So stupid. Eldar are silly too, but evil dominatrix space elves jump the shark.

Cool story. Please do tell more.

Dark hunters for me.

Yes I'm a space marine, so? I don't see any problem. I embraced my imperial soul long ago and am very happy with my immortal carrion lord (Who's a cute b/w corpse), we have many friends inside and outside of the Imperium and am pretty armoured and tough-looking.

But thanks anyway donkey-cave, enjoy your heresy while I DO GLORIOUS BATTLE with my god-emperor.

Lord Rogukiel ,

I apologize, but I'm confused by your comment. You don't really think my comments were cool. I know they weren't, I attempted to mock the outrage, as I just don't understand how rude we can be about toy army men to each other. The attacks I've seen here make the 15mm Napoleonic only long tooth grognards look civil to each other.

I love the original bad RT art. It's so much better than the puke in the original DnD books. It's amatuerish, but it has alot of character. Bashing it is silly as bashing the Model T Ford.

Of course the Model T doesn't match up against today's new cars, but it was cool at the time and it's still cool if you could find one and refurb it. Same as old minis. Who would say classic cars like Mustangs, Porsches, and Caddies are cr*p and sh*t?

Space orcs are still plainly stupid. Dumb fungus muscle gorillas that speak in a random UK accent. They don't mate? I'd rather die than be a space orc or be a necron.

Humans are where it's at. Wether they be diminutive squat, mutated Ogyrns, augmented marines, or regular joes.

Space Sharks would wipe the floor with Dark Hunters.

I go for the Carcharodons.... They are the Close Combat for the Raven Family.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Relictors, cool auxtere/no-nonsense color scheme, and the use chaos against chaos thing was pretty cool. If I were to start a more obscure chapter, they'd easily be in the top 5.

+1 First learned of them in my first ever white dwarf in 2003

Baconfat wrote:
Lord Rogukiel ,

I apologize, but I'm confused by your comment. You don't really think my comments were cool. I know they weren't, I attempted to mock the outrage, as I just don't understand how rude we can be about toy army men to each other. The attacks I've seen here make the 15mm Napoleonic only long tooth grognards look civil to each other.

I love the original bad RT art. It's so much better than the puke in the original DnD books. It's amatuerish, but it has alot of character. Bashing it is silly as bashing the Model T Ford.

Of course the Model T doesn't match up against today's new cars, but it was cool at the time and it's still cool if you could find one and refurb it. Same as old minis. Who would say classic cars like Mustangs, Porsches, and Caddies are cr*p and sh*t?

Space orcs are still plainly stupid. Dumb fungus muscle gorillas that speak in a random UK accent. They don't mate? I'd rather die than be a space orc or be a necron.

Humans are where it's at. Wether they be diminutive squat, mutated Ogyrns, augmented marines, or regular joes.

Space Sharks would wipe the floor with Dark Hunters.

Hey man dont knock the Ford model T, its a beautiful old car that looks better then any of that eco friendly carp being released now

On topic: my votes for the space sharks or those dudes in the badab war whose commander had the chain claws

Carcharodons is a much better name than space sharks.

Lord Rog, I just googled the Dark Hunters. They are pretty cool. It's ashame they don't get more attention, the color scheme, open back story, and grim attitude make me want o paint a few up. The lesser known chapters always make me want to paint up a large Deathwatch company.

Lord Rog, what would you like to paint in a ten man DW squad?

For mix of history/colors I'd probably pick Sharks/Carcharodons, Lamentors, Crimnson Fists, White Consuls, Iron Hands, Flesh Eaters, Mentors, Firehawks, a random Field Police, and either a Death Hunters or Sons of Medusa.




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Tazz Azrael,

Your Nid color scheme is pretty much the bees knees. Captures alot of the classic imagery, but has a fresh touch of sweet new.

Carcharodons because they don't mess around.

Rogue space marines holding a planet? No problem. Just blow up the planet...

These are the guys you call when you want something done and you don't really care how. And you probably don't want to know how it gets done.


Second based solely on looks, Star Phantoms.

Baconfat wrote:
Lord Rogukiel ,

I apologize, but I'm confused by your comment. You don't really think my comments were cool. I know they weren't, I attempted to mock the outrage, as I just don't understand how rude we can be about toy army men to each other. The attacks I've seen here make the 15mm Napoleonic only long tooth grognards look civil to each other.

Humans are where it's at. Wether they be diminutive squat, mutated Ogyrns, augmented marines, or regular joes.

Space Sharks would wipe the floor with Dark Hunters.

Haha right. My fault for not picking up on the sarcasm. And i actually play DA, but they're too mainstream for this thread.
Though my main army is Eldar, for which I see you have a profound love of...

Yeah, I really like the Dark Hunters, mostly because there is so little background, they have a sweet emblem and colour scheme. Also to me they're really a representation of 40k grim dark. Not excessive because of their lack fame, and no excessive stress on "mysterious" past which does get kind of old.

As for a 10 man Dw company, I'll have to get back to you because that requires some serious thinking.

Excuse any typos, I'm on my phone

Baconfat wrote:

Tazz Azrael,

Your Nid color scheme is pretty much the bees knees. Captures alot of the classic imagery, but has a fresh touch of sweet new.

Thanks Baconfat i was a little leery on how they turned out, but glad to hear someone likes them.

Black Dragons. Why? Everybody likes the Space Marine equivalent of Tyranids.



Plus, they come from the geneseed of the Salamanders. So they are automatically the coolest of all Space Marine Sucessor Chapters.

Also, the Sons of Antaeus. They are a bit like Legion of the Damned: They are incredibly resilient, and appear to help Imperial forces in need. They were also a Cursed Founding chapter.

Red Hunters for me, for two reasons;

1. They fought in the Siege of Vraks
2. They worship the Emperor as a God and have very close ties to the Inquisition - so close that their badge of a skull has the Inquisitorial surmounting the skulls brow. It is suspected that they were founded after the Horus Heresy to hunt down Traitor Legions and thus work alongside, and under, the Inquisition.

I like the mantis warriors - I always thought it'd be cool to do a BA counts as army.
They have the preying mantidae - who's perception is reduced to only being able to discern threats to themselves, so they fight harder, but are ultimately diminshed - the death company would be a really good counts as.
That and they are on penance for the badab uprising.

Really like the Scythes of the Emperor too.

Probably not so obscure though...