hey everyone! I've been working a lot, so I haven't had any time to make models, much less post! This will change for a short while, as I have a huge chunk O' time coming up for the holidays.

While I enjoy some fine down time, I'll be making an Ork Landa! In case you have been hiding under a Rok, an Ork Landa is a giant orbit-to-surface transport. the Boys arrive to the fight in a pre-made fortress, with all the gubbins that go with it.

I really want to make this build fun, and try to out-do myself. Feel free to follow along, and both cheer on my successes and jeer at my failures!

First up, I need a plan. I have made one, detailing two levels and the roof of the twisted wreckage. Sadly, only I seem to understand what the hell I draw. (at least when it comes to buildin' Ork gubbins and whot-knots. My portraits are very fine, thank-you-very-much.)



Now that I have the plans (along with un-pictured pages of notes,) I set about buildin' the goods.

First, we needs some expanded metal so the ship don't get too heavy. I also make some cuttin' templates for the roof.



Once I got all my drawin' and my thinkin' done, I grab me burna and start cuttin'!



After I got the rough frames cut from the expanded metal, I start sawin' on the gubbins. (I need a lot of metal to jam into the frame. It's a REALLY big frame!)



Once I got a pile O' structure pieces, I take em' to the grinder and smooth them out, so that they take to the welding all proppa-like.



Once I have that done, I do some boring calculations, and figure out how to start the rough assembly.

I have the weekend free, so hopefully I can get a ton of stitches down before work starts again on monday. I should have a good chunk of progress tomorrow night!

As always any and all questions, comments, suggestions, insults, and compliments are welcome!

Ork vehicles and real metal...........Im watching this.

^agreed >

Sure looks Orky

Looks interesting

Keep us posted, looks fascinating

Thanks for all of y'alls' responses, I will try and not disappoint.

I was able to put in a number of hours at the shop today, progress is good so far!

First up, I got the roughs finished for the floor sections.


Next, I tack braces onto the bottom section. I also wound up using the plasma cutter for a new top section, the one I gas-axed and beat into shape wont work without a level support. I like the shape of the original, I just need a base for it.


after I got that worked out, I tacked on the main support pieces for the first floor.


I then flushed out the base with a few walls. there's not a lot of detail, I just need something to add texture for the many holes in the hull.


Once that was done, I added the second floor, rinse and repeat, and added the (new and improved!) ceiling base.


At this point I needed to clean up the metal before the next round, so more grinding!


To round out the day, I added the wire frame with lots of weldin', cuttin', grindin', and swearing.

Here's the full days work starting with the back, upside down.


followed by a profile shot


Next a cool "floatin' in space" shot. note: this is not the flight stand for it, I just wanted to get a good photo so I posed it on some 2" square tube.


Lastly, a scale shot. you should be able to click on the picture and get the numbers to show in magnify if you cant read them. I posed it with a standard drywall T-square.


I'll be working on it again tomorrow, so updates a' comin' soon!

One last note. Even on regular projects, I kinda stopped explaining how I make stuff and just show pretty pictures. I figure if there's anything that someone wants to know, they'll ask. With this project especially, I understand that it doesn't really fall under any established modeling practice so I'm even lighter then usual on the detail stuff. If you want anything explained, or have any questions in general, feel free to ask! if not, just sit back and enjoy the shiny pictures.

Holy crap, I need to learn how to do metal working.

Liking this so far, a metal scratchbuild,don't see them often but when you do they are quality and often worthy of a place in the Tate Modern...

Keep going, looking forward to your next update

i just found this post for the first time and god this is looking like it could be awesome!

That sertainly looks good to me

Cool stuff Looking forward to seeing the rest.

I'll just sit back and enjoy the shiny pictures for now.

The ONLY thing Im seeing as a problem here, is youre using the logic of "weight be damned!" Just make sure that thing doesnt tip over or youre going to have a pretty bad day fixing all your broken Orks

Best Ork project eva'!

How big will it be and how much to you think it'll weigh when finished?

Looking good so far, a bit mind-boggling seeign metal work but it's turning out well so far.

D

KingCracker wrote:The ONLY thing Im seeing as a problem here, is youre using the logic of "weight be damned!" Just make sure that thing doesnt tip over or youre going to have a pretty bad day fixing all your broken Orks

Actually, I'm trying to cut down on the weight as much as possible. as to accidents, they happen, and models get fixed.

evildrcheese wrote:How big will it be and how much to you think it'll weigh when finished?

Looking good so far, a bit mind-boggling seeign metal work but it's turning out well so far.

D

It should be between 24" and 28" long, 19" wide, and about a foot tall to the tip of the tail fin. I'm trying to keep the total weight under 20 pounds.

Updates!

Today was a bit frustrating, I got a lot of planning done, but little progress.

To start, I cut out some excess weight from the Landa.



Next, I cut a test piece of metal, and practiced using the metal punch to make rivets. test was good!



After that, I wrote the master list of stuff still to be done. I then went shopping.



I bought a bunch of metal I needed, the hardest to find was small steel tubing. Next I measured out all the hull pieces.



Lastly, I transfered the cut patterns onto sheet metal.



I may have a little time throughout the week, but for the most part I wont have another big update till next weekend. Thanks everyone for looking!

Freakin' crap.... great work so far!

Good day for me, I got a solid twelve hours in at the shop.

First up, I cut the pieces out for the vehicle transport bays and drew lines for rivets.



Next, I use a deadblow hammer and a punch to make rivets.



Lastly, I weld it up and add some skid plates for a proppa crash landing.



Once I had the main transport bay done, I started on the tail fin. First, I welded the base to the hull, insuring the Landa had a stable base.



Next, I welded the frame for the tail fin.



After that, I welded all the plates into the fin.



Next, I added the main engine housing to the fin.



lastly, I added the entire assembly to the Landa.



Here is a side profile shot with all the new goods welded on.



Next up is adding the first plates. First, I have to hammer in all the rivets. There are a LOT of rivets to hammer. (my hands hurt!)



Tomorrow I have to shape each plate, and weld it into place. After that, I'm not sure! maybe engines, the Iron Gob, The top plate, or the turrets. who knows!

Thanks for looking, this has been a hoot to make so far!

Your work list needs to be written more Orky.

subbed awsome work man

Who wants to guess the weight on this thing?


Love the updates though, getting better each time

As an idea to lighten this up, as that sq metal work at the back is bound to be heavy is to drill it.

It doesn't have to be mega strong, just strong enough to hold together. So drilling it will reduce weight. You can always patch over it with plasticard later.

You may consider it light enough already so no need to worry. Looks immense.

This looks awesome, cant wait to see the finished product.

You sir are a legend.

Oh boy this is gonna be sweet.

Welcome back!

I haven't updated all vacation, due to me being super sick and catching up on house and family stuff.

I did manage to get the plates cut and welded though!









Lastly, here's a good scale shot.



Up next, engines and DAKKA!

This is seriously epic!

I honestly don't know what else I can say... this is just to epic to describe in anything but gutral grunting....

props, and well done!

Holy crap, that thing's huge! Very nice!

That's looking very cool - will you be giving it a flight stand of some sort at the end?

Thats comaprativly huge! Looking good, bet it weighs a ton though

Young Logan

This thing is probably going to be the next Red Orktober!

This is insane. I mean, it's AWESOME, but also really insane. I'd be scared crapless, if this enormous hunk of metal would be balanced over my army.

One thing bugs me: Since you're using real metal, how much of this thing do you actually plan on painting? What's the point in building something out of such an appropriate material like here and then paint Boltgun Metal over it...

Dysartes wrote:That's looking very cool - will you be giving it a flight stand of some sort at the end?

no, no flight stand. It crash lands onto the battlefield, then is an immobile fortress.

Anung Un Rama wrote:This is insane. I mean, it's AWESOME, but also really insane. I'd be scared crapless, if this enormous hunk of metal would be balanced over my army.

One thing bugs me: Since you're using real metal, how much of this thing do you actually plan on painting? What's the point in building something out of such an appropriate material like here and then paint Boltgun Metal over it...

Again, it will weigh a ton. I'll weigh it, if y'all are that curious. It will not be on a flight stand, it will be stable, it will not fall on miniatures. The way I intend to use it it will damage models and playing tables about as often as anyone drops an armycase full of metal models onto a battlefield.

As to the paintjob query, first let me thank you for asking a question not weight related! (I'm starting to feel like Strongbad answering questions about typing and boxing gloves.)
Anywho, I intend on rusting it to scale using a two step process. First, I'll get a base color by exposing the Landa to muriatic acid. Next, I'll be using a Mek's brew of bleech, salt, water, and hydrogen peroxide. I'll apply it with an eye dropper to give a realistic finish and have the rust "to scale," as it were. Next, I'll kill the rust process using a neutralizer. Lastly, I'll clearcoat, mask, and airbrush on some color.

UPDATE TIME!

I opted not to work on the engines, as it will go much quicker doing that step at the shop. I figured making the jaw ramp would be a lot easier with the metalworking stuff I have at home.

After making a styrofoam mock-up, I measured out the pieces for the jaw and cut them out.



Next, I welded the permanent tooth-plates to the jaw ramp.



After that, I welded the tooth plates that have hinges to the jaw.
Here's the jaw open.



And here's the jaw closed.



Next, I mounted the jaw using more hinges.

Here's the final mount closed.



And open.



Here's a tank disembarking!



Same three pictures, but from the front.







And that's it for now! Sadly, I have to go back to work tomorrow. Hopefully it stays relatively calm, and I can keep working on it throughout the week.

thats really cool and impressive!

Damn impressive so far. How much does this bad boy weigh currently?

i had planned on making a landa. maybe a krawla instead . 10/10 can't wait to see finished result

I really like the thought that want into making that jaw, pox - and I'll stop asking about the weight, following that subtle hint

How stiff are the hinges you've used, by the way? Will they hold the jaw in the up position if someone walking past catches the tailfin, for instance?

That is amazing work mate. You've really gone the extra step with this one.

It not only looks awesome, it vomits tanks as well

The jaw ramp is glorious.

Darth Bob wrote:Damn impressive so far. How much does this bad boy weigh currently?

including this current update, about nine pounds so far.

Dysartes wrote:I really like the thought that want into making that jaw, pox - and I'll stop asking about the weight, following that subtle hint

How stiff are the hinges you've used, by the way? Will they hold the jaw in the up position if someone walking past catches the tailfin, for instance?

The hinges are very loose, it's held by magnets currently. I'll add some sort of catch before its all done.

UPDATES!

I hopped around a bit, a lot of what I've done had to do with what machines were available at the time I was working on it.

To start, I began working on the upper deck. I started with the nose fin.



Next, I built a tower base for the middle.



Lastly for the top, I added two smaller towers. This configuration should give me all the framework I need for the side turrets and upper deck guns.



Here is a side shot to give a rough idea of the final shape.



I took a break from the top and moved onto the recessed gun decks.





After that, I moved onto the wings.





I wrapped up the week by starting the turrets. for guns, I'm using brake line. Here's me cutting off the guns.



Lastly, I cut the steel for the turret bases. There will be a lot of small guns on this thing, and a few Kannon turrets.



Well, thats it for this update. I should still have plenty of time this week to get more done. Thanks for looking!

UPDATE!

I had another good day. to start with I made my fatty lose some weight! I cut out a lot of unneeded structure. for sure, the next welded model will have have an outer jig.



Here's everything I removed. You gotta love a good torch!



While I had the torch out, I added a bit of battle damage.



lastly, I cut out the engine room.



While I had the engine room cut out, I went ahead and added engines.







To round out the day, I used a soft wheel and cleaned up the whole model.







Alright! Thats two updates in a row. any and all questions/comments/suggestions are appreciated!

(P.S., my weight loss program didn't work. After adding the engines and more skinning, the Landa now weighs twenty pounds.)

OH MY GOD! What the hell I've just seen? The only right word is EPIC! Lil' question... what's the weight of this monster?

I've just realised you are the same pox that made the most amazing Chaos Dragon I've ever seen.

I will be watching this project with great interest.

By Gork (and possibly Mork) dat 'ere is a propa' Landa

You is one crafty git, an' I be 'ppreciatin dis 'ere projekt to da fullest.

Mother of God...

/quitlife
Goodgame

Fantastic project, you should be proud!

Love the exhaust

This is really cool. Well done.

Two of those engines/exhausts look like they are from motorcycles. Titanium pipes. Are they?

I read your post about painting it, and about using rust. But with all those engines I'm hoping it will be red as well...?

You sir, are a madman and a visionary, I love it. I don't envy you lugging it around though, 20lbs is like 9Kg right? Looks fantastic though, I wish I had the motivation/skill to do something like this.

You are mad in the best ways. Really nice work.

This is a work of orklike beauty. (The best kind, of course)
Honestly, this is really impressive, great work, and a lot of fun watching it progress.

I'm waiting for the day this thing topples over and crushes someone's entire army, game match - orks.

punkow wrote:OH MY GOD! What the hell I've just seen? The only right word is EPIC! Lil' question... what's the weight of this monster?

It weighs twenty pounds so far!

feeder wrote:I've just realised you are the same pox that made the most amazing Chaos Dragon I've ever seen.

I will be watching this project with great interest.

Thanks, glad you liked the Chaos Dragon! It's currently in Arizona, I wont be able to get it down here to Louisiana till next year. :(

TaWaaagh wrote:This is really cool. Well done.

Two of those engines/exhausts look like they are from motorcycles. Titanium pipes. Are they?

I read your post about painting it, and about using rust. But with all those engines I'm hoping it will be red as well...?

I got the three smaller engines from an auto parts store, they were exhaust extenders. I can't use Titanium, I'm sticking with MIG welding for this project, TIG will be for the next one. I'll have a lot more metal to work with then! I'm just using Steel and Galvanized on the Landa.

As for the "painting," after I rust it to scale, I will use a salt resist and airbrush to give a peeled and worn paintjob. and don't forget tail fin art!

Sir Samuel Buca wrote:You sir, are a madman and a visionary, I love it. I don't envy you lugging it around though, 20lbs is like 9Kg right? Looks fantastic though, I wish I had the motivation/skill to do something like this.

closer to nine and a half. When the model is done being built, I'll weld two pad-eyes onto it and have a detachable strap for ease of transport.

TheLionOfTheForest wrote:I'm waiting for the day this thing topples over and crushes someone's entire army, game match - orks.

It will only topple over if the table breaks or I drop it while deploying! It is very, very stable, and again will have no flight stand.

About the weight, It only seems heavy due to the scale of models we usually use. Right now, it weighs twenty pounds. To give some sense of how much that is, a gallon of whole milk weighs 8.8 pounds, and a two liter of pepsi weighs about five pounds. so if your gaming table could hold two gallons of milk and a plate of cookies, or four two-liters of soda, it can hold the Landa.

I will try and weigh my Great Gargant by this weekend, but I assure you it's heavier (right now, at least.) I'd guess 25-27 pounds for the Gargant. My Blasta Bomma is easily 10-13 pounds. I used heavy PVC and tons of clay for the details, and it IS mounted on a flight stand! My Chaos dragon was nine pounds, if I recall.

Lastly, It is basically terrain. I have a few ideas for how it lands, and the rough rules are as follows.
1. The Landa becomes available from reserves. I declare what table edge it comes in from, and where it's going to land.
2. all AA fire or rules for Flak guns are resolved against the Landa.
3. The two pulsa-Rokkit pods fire, attempting to clear the "land zone."
4. using the bomb-run rules, I determine where the ship's nose will land.
5. any vehicles/units that the Pulsa-Rokkits didn't move out of the way are in essence "tank-shocked" using the rules from the rulebook.
6. all damage from the ramming are resolved, foot troopers are moved outside the landing area.
7. The Landa is then placed onto the board, using much care and diligence.
8. The Landa is now terrain, it is an immobile vehicle. The jaw can either stay opened or closed, using similar rules to the landing pad. If open, more troops can disembark along with vehicles, but the landa has weaker armor. If closed, only foot troops can disembark, and only a unit per round.

I hope that clears up a few things as far as the size and weight of the model is concerned. Honestly, I'm just making it because I wanted a welded Ork monstrosity.

I really appreciate all of the other comments, I had a good chuckle through a bad work day at a lot of them. again, thanks for looking! I should have an update by the end of the weekend.

My Big Mek is jealous of your Big Mek.

That just means hes doing something right

Welcome back!

I finally had some time to work on the Landa. I was getting cramped with my set up, so I had to get new carts for my rig. In keeping with Ork fashion, I painted some quick checkers on my new gear.



After I assembled my new welding cart and service cart, I finished the back fin.



I then started the frame for the pilot deck.





Lastly, I bought a hand scale to keep track of weight. The landa is up to 22.5 pounds, or about 10Kg for you metric peeps.



With my new set up, I should be able to work on the Landa more frequently. Thanks for looking!

You are a mad man. God bless.

Just... beautiful.

I'm going to follow this project eagerly.

I think those carts need a quick respray - everyone knows red ones work faster!

Is the surface of the metal starting to discolour, or is it just my eyes?

Nothing says melta-gun damage like holes cut with a plasma-cutter.

Dysartes wrote:I think those carts need a quick respray - everyone knows red ones work faster!

Is the surface of the metal starting to discolour, or is it just my eyes?

Yes! The surface is heavily discolored by now, it's rusting quite a bit. I'm using as much raw metal as I can (so it rusts easily) and I live in louisiana. The humidity alone rusts it, not to mention I leave it in my truck and in the backyard a lot.

Nowlan wrote:Nothing says melta-gun damage like holes cut with a plasma-cutter.

I LOVE our new plasma cutter! The old one at the shop was decent, but we got a new one and it is silky-smooth.

Anywho, I have an UPDATE!

I started the plates for the front of the Landa.



After I got the base plates on, I welded lines to it.





Next, I ground it all down to make it pretty. The pictures are hard to make out, the metal gets super shiny when it gets ground.



Lastly, here's a few wide shots.

I'm usually a bit cynical about "Ork tec" but this... this is epic...

Easily one of the best projects on dakka hands down!
Unreal work man!

I am not an Ork fan generally but this is a masterpiece... and I agree with another comment on here, I think you are a mad man! lol! All I can say is you better have a pretty dam solid table to take the weight of that beast when it lands.

Amazing stuff, can't wait to see some paint on it.

Youzs be da best mek eva!

I have some huge updates coming! I was able to put about fifteen hours into it this week, so this will be the first of three updates.

First up, I added the bottom plates to the wings.



Once it was on, I warped the plates a little and took off some stickers with a propane torch.



once done with that, I started working on engine gubbins and piping it all to the engine room.













Once I was done having fun with engines, I switched gears and started playing dentist. First I added upper teeth.



While I had the jaw open, I added a hook to the jawplate. The magnets were not gonna cut it for the long run, so I fixed it.



Thats it for now, I should have the second part typed up sometime tomorrow.

You Sir are certifiable! A crazy orky genius but certifiable nonetheless.

There ... I .... But .... I am totally at a lose of words because of the sheer awesomeness and orkiness of your creation!
NO army can stand against should a brute and Orks by the billions will flock to your side.

Cant wait to see some battlements and DAKKA on that thing

Definitely needs more dakka, no Ork vehicle is complete without it!

Also, nice Soundwave pic AL-PlX!

AL-PiXeL01 wrote:There ... I .... But .... I am totally at a lose of words because of the sheer awesomeness and orkiness of your creation!
NO army can stand against should a brute and Orks by the billions will flock to your side.

Cant wait to see some battlements and DAKKA on that thing

All will flock to my banner, and with a mighty roar the might of the imperium will fall.

Deunstephe wrote:Definitely needs more dakka, no Ork vehicle is complete without it!

Also, nice Soundwave pic AL-PlX!

One order of Dakka, coming up!

First up, I built the flight deck.



Next, I added some nose guns.



After that I added about a third of the turrets.





Next up, a door.



Next up, internal engine stuff.



Thats it for this week! getting close to the end of the build. I'm really excited about rusting and painting.

Now THAT'S got a lot of dakka! As usual, it needs more because you can never have enough, but right now that's enough! What are you gonna do about that rust though?

 Deunstephe wrote:
Now THAT'S got a lot of dakka! As usual, it needs more because you can never have enough, but right now that's enough! What are you gonna do about that rust though?

It will have more. Only about half the turrets are on, and it still needs pulsa-rokkit tubes. On the note of rust, I'm not sure what you mean. most of the rust has been added by me, I only plan on using as little paint as possible.

Oh wow, so it's intentional? I thought that was just from it being exposed to the elements! In that case, forget what I said about rust.

This is absolutely incredible. Where can I see your other stuff that someone mentioned earlier?

Built in true orky style. Great work!

This is a fantastic project! The amount of detail you have managed to get is quite stunning and all the rust that you added just makes it look incredibly orky. Subbed and eager for more!

Easily the coolest thing I've seen on Dakka! As everyones said, incredible cool and orky

 MandalorynOranj wrote:
This is absolutely incredible. Where can I see your other stuff that someone mentioned earlier?

Thanks for the compliment! Here's some links to my greatest hits.

Great Gargant
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/423841.page

Blasta-Bomma
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/250385.page

Mono-wheel Battlewagon

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?236289-Ork-monowheel-Trukk

Greater Chaos Dragon

http://s110.beta.photobucket.com/user/conversionman/library/finished%20dragon

I can't find links to anything else of note. I usually only post the big and weird stuff, so regular troops and what-nots I don't really have pictures of. I also paired down my collection four years ago, I only have Orks for 40K and Skaven for fantasy. Naturally, I have an embarrassingly large army for each of them, both painted and un-painted.

After that awesome trip down memory lane, I have an update.

First up, I started chemical rust experiments in ernest. The colors are not what the final look will be, I'm just experimenting with what kind of a palette I can expect.



Next, I experimented with the Pulsa-Rokkit rack. It will be very time-intensive, but I really want to have fun with the battery of Rokkits. There will be eight total.



Lastly, I added Dakka. a TON of Dakka. about four pounds of Dakka. There are now over twenty turrets.

That looks like almost just enough Kill.


May be a bit under-Kill.

Erh. Mah. Gerd.

Dakka, measured in pounds. That's just delightful.

Needs a couple more pounds of dakka. Just kidding, that this is fething amazing still!

That rust is brilliant! Guns are fab as well!

Thanks everyone!

I have another update, I'm almost done with the building part.

To start with, I added more details to the wings.







After that I added detail to the jaw.



Next, I built a secondary engine compartment.



After that I added details to the observation deck.



Finally, I Fixed most of the turrets. No pictures, I just had to re-weld them.

I'm still hoping to have it fully built by the end of the month, smile for the camera!

It just keeps getting better and better!

I have been planning to become a welder recently, and if it wasn't set in stone before, it certainly is now! I don't quite know what else to say, other than.......Paint it red!

I'm beginning to think you actually are an Ork. Or severely tainted at least.

Haha this had me giggling like a school girl with the sheer craziness of the idea! Love it.

Pounds of Dakka...... A new standard has been set sir.

Wow this is impressive. Amazing work. It'll look incredible on a table top.

glomscient wrote:I have been planning to become a welder recently, and if it wasn't set in stone before, it certainly is now! I don't quite know what else to say, other than.......Paint it red!

Welding professionally is hard, painful, and very rewarding. Welding as a hobby is pure awesome. I really love the medium, I cannot wait to try TIG welding and miniature oxy-acetelene welding next. Everything on this model has been MIG welding, using .025 wire. Switching to TIG and oxy will allow me to make much smaller welds. I'm also playing around with a plastic welder. I think the future for me will be a mix of both steel and traditional model making tools, like accenting the frame with clay and plastic for ultra-fine detail.

And yes, I believe red may be in order.

Squidbot wrote:I'm beginning to think you actually are an Ork. Or severely tainted at least.

I hope so. It's all I see when I sleep, huge behemoths flying and crunching across destroyed cities. I'll also be looking into making more moving parts, remote controls, and a little pyro on future models for good measure.

caminacambob wrote:Haha this had me giggling like a school girl with the sheer craziness of the idea! Love it.

Pounds of Dakka...... A new standard has been set sir.

I think armies should be valued in weight, not point cost.

lennymaybe wrote:Wow this is impressive. Amazing work. It'll look incredible on a table top.

I hope so, although I'm running out of space to field all my super-heavies at once. Once this is completed, I'll have about 5,000 points in Super-heavies alone, that occupy several square feet of real estate.

I have a small but interesting update. I'm nearing the end game on the building side of things. I had to do die-grinding to take down detail, so I started also doing highlighting. metal gets darker as it rusts, so I started grinding and sanding in highlights. I feel confident I can control the color of the rust, but I don't want to lose all my hard-fought for detail in the aging process.

It's gonna be weird, but imagine all you can add is highlights, and you can only add a layer a day. On top of that, the lowlights will continually get darker and richer, till you stop the rusting process. I do have the advantage of living in Louisiana, so the humidity really allows me to control the aging and rusting process.

Here are the first round pictures of highlights, along with most of the final details etched in.











The tricky part is figuring out where I want the rust, and then neutralizing it. I should be done with all the welding by the end of the week, and thats when I can really start the rusting process. I still need to take off all the zinc off of the plated and galvanized pieces, and I'm not sure how the model as a whole will be affected by the Muriatic acid.

It should be a hoot though, just the fact that I need to treat the model with acid to make it rust is kinda fun.

The scary part is that even fumes from muriatic acid can rust on contact, and I don't know what colors it produces. I would do a test piece, but I need to remove the zinc no matter what so next weekend is gonna be a nail biter for me as I experiment on a completed model.

Thanks again for looking, I cant wait to start painting this beast!

This is insane. But more power to you!

Epic thread is EPIC!

that is one giant rusty love bucket.

Gork would be proud but also impressed, while Mork would be impressed but also proud. This is almost too awesome for words. I notice we don't see you in any of the pictures...are you possibly rather large and green with beady red eyes? Only an ork could make something so orky.

Just to clarify, I'm not an Ork.

UPDATE TIME!

I got me rokkits up and loaded. I wanted to add rokkits, as thats one of the few things on the original model. In addition, I needed a battery of pulsa rokkits to clear a path on the battlefield when it enters play.

First up, I got all the pieces together for the ten pulsa-rokkits based off the original template.



Next, I drilled holes into the rokkit plate for the right side, then used my doming tools to bow out the tube holes.



After that I made the rokkits for the right side and mounted them.





Next up is the left side. I made the rokkits and mounted them.







Lastly for this update, I welded pad eyes to the top frame.



This will allow me to put small shackles through to pad eyes, for a easy to grab handle. (I just used a rubber strap for the picture, I'll make a proppa chain handle later.)



That's it for today, closing in on the end game!

Now dat a landa with some dakka and some more dakka.

Oh man, that looks frigging awesome. Very impressive work

FYI, the pins in your section of O Scale railroad track you're using for Rokkit launch rails (LAUNCH RAILS, get it? Ha.)...anyways. The pins can be removed with a pair of pliers. Not sure if you're leaving them in their intentionally.

I would love to see the look on some players faces (as well as the shop owners) when this was placed on the table.

Regards,
Carl

could the table hold it? Nice work mate!

Some observations after checking all posts:
- Until I see a picture of "pox" I refuse to believe he is not an Ork. Notice he said he is not an Ork when he is a Mech Boy.
- May need to bring along an "engine puller" to move this thing around when gaming: some tables may not be designed with this high a weight allowance.
- Impressive welding creation: why simulate welding with plastic when you can do the real thing!
- Please do not make a Gargant. You may have to make it so it doubles as a shop stove when not in use.

I love my fellow hobbiests: no medium is safe from use (especially with Orks!)

 pox wrote:
Just to clarify, I'm not an Ork

 Talizvar wrote:
- Until I see a picture of "pox" I refuse to believe he is not an Ork. Notice he said he is not an Ork when he is a Mech Boy.

I'm not certain you have us all convinced...but either way I hope you take it as the compliment it was intended to be.

As to the new updates - way to go for adding MOAR DAKKA. I hope we get to see some pic of this bad boy being used in a game when its done!

This looks the most like something orks would make, out of any conversion i have ever seen! Great scratchbuild and expert welding skills! I tip my hat to you

 lennymaybe wrote:
It'll look incredible on a table top.

It will indeed look incredible on the table....

... right up until it BREAKS THE TABLE!

DIS STILL SO AMAZING...

PLEASE! We need to make a video of this thing opening and closing its gob yelling "IMA FIRIN MAH LAZZAR!" then shooting all the dakka. Little known fact, the Landa can make it self a smaller target for a brief second by firing all the guns simultaneously in every direction and using their recoil to compress the hull. Fortunately for AA gun crews across the galaxy the orks have never realized this or been able to execute this maneuver if they did, sometimes referred to as a 'Dakka Fart'. This maneuver does however require the replacement of several sguigs and grots who work in the jefferies tubes, once they've been popped back open

If you ever went to a GW store and an employee said you couldn’t put that on a table I hope that other gamers there would just line up and take turns kicking that guy in the balls. That beast desires to be able to play in any game it wants including kill points.

Damn, what a project!

Only weedy gits obey the laws of aerodynamics.

Awesome thread is awesome.
I can't wait to see how this turns out! Please post a finished picture on the tabletop in action when it's done.

I had no idea one could use welding and rust with such art and precision - beautiful and inspirational work. This is not merely modeling, this really is sculpture

Hi,
I am realy loving all of the work that you have put into this, can't wait to see this finished!!!!

subbed,

HAZZER.

Briancj wrote:FYI, the pins in your section of O Scale railroad track you're using for Rokkit launch rails (LAUNCH RAILS, get it? Ha.)...anyways. The pins can be removed with a pair of pliers. Not sure if you're leaving them in their intentionally.

I did not know that, thanks! I thought they looked alright, but I liked the look more when I pulled them.

Talizvar wrote:Some observations after checking all posts:
- Until I see a picture of "pox" I refuse to believe he is not an Ork. Notice he said he is not an Ork when he is a Mech Boy.
- May need to bring along an "engine puller" to move this thing around when gaming: some tables may not be designed with this high a weight allowance.
- Impressive welding creation: why simulate welding with plastic when you can do the real thing!
- Please do not make a Gargant. You may have to make it so it doubles as a shop stove when not in use.

I love my fellow hobbiests: no medium is safe from use (especially with Orks!)

I cannot in good faith post a proppa picture of myself to prove I'm not an Ork Big Mek, due to internet privacy. Yeah, thats the ticket. Privacy.

G. Whitenbeard wrote:

 lennymaybe wrote:
It'll look incredible on a table top.

It will indeed look incredible on the table....

... right up until it BREAKS THE TABLE!

I can weld a steel table in no time, maybe I'll just cart one around with me for games.

Panzer1944 wrote:If you ever went to a GW store and an employee said you couldn’t put that on a table I hope that other gamers there would just line up and take turns kicking that guy in the balls. That beast desires to be able to play in any game it wants including kill points.

Whoa dude! Take it easy on the poor GW employees! I do agree with you though, it would make great terrain when not being used in Apocalypse.

schadenfreude wrote:Only weedy gits obey the laws of aerodynamics.

My job has taught me that if you put enough explosives behind ANYTHING, it will in fact take flight. Not always in one piece, but it will fly. Such is the risk of Orks.

Million wrote:I had no idea one could use welding and rust with such art and precision - beautiful and inspirational work. This is not merely modeling, this really is sculpture

Thanks for that! I'd also like to thank everyone that I didn't quote, it really makes projects like these easier and gives me the urge to push on even when I'm tired.

UPDATE TIME!

I finished the engine room by adding tons of proppa gubbins, pipes, do-dads, and bits.









Next, I added the housing to the Pulsa-Rokkits. (and pulled the pins from the track!)





After that I added the side view port. I assume this Landa only makes left turns, as there is no way to see anything out of the right side of the ship. Us orks are an odd bunch when it comes to ship design.



Lastly, I added more gubbins to the jaw.



Here are some side shots for fun.





Not much left on the build, just a few little details.

I don't mean to leave on a sad note, but work is switching to twelve hour shifts so my free time is going to go waaaay down. I didn't make my February deadline to finish the build portion of the project, But I hope to be done with the welding and de-burring by next weekend.

As for the final rusting and painting, I'll have to play the timeline by ear.

Thanks again for all the support and feedback!

Good lord, once again. I'm listening to the original Transformers theme (the one from the 1986 movie), and it's somehow fitting.

This is just astounding. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. This project is massive and anytime you can measure dakka in poiunds is a good thing.

Also anything that looks like a gun is with this, and that just makes me so happy.

That, dear sir, is an amazing piece of orkyness. Good work!!!!

Delightful. Sorry about the 12 hour shifts! Hopefully, you'll sack some cash away.

Thanks for all the kind words! I'm just hoping to finish this before I really have to start working. (gonna have a few months of 7 day work weeks!)

I do have a huge update, I finished the build! All thats left is the rust and painting.

Anywho, I started by burning off stickers on the pipes.



Next I started adding plates and details to the bottom of the wings. I actually ran out of welding wire! I started with a fresh 2 pound roll for this project. I ground a lot of it off, but still.



After replacing the wire, I added details to the doors. The Landa has three small vehicle and troop doors along the lower cargo hold.

After I added the last details, I did the final grind. This involved using a 40 grit grind wheel, followed by a 120 grit wheel, and lastly getting details ground with various die-grinder bits. Very time consuming, but very boring and no pictures.

Lastly, I dipped the model in a bath of muriatic acid. DO NOT mess with that stuff if you don't have the proper safety equipment!

I have ten good pictures of the finished build, I'll post them in the next update in two minutes!



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Alright, here are the finished pictures of the build.





















I hope to have the rust done throughout the week, and get it airbrushed next weekend. (Or the next available eight hour chunk of time I can rustle up!)

Again, I thank everyone for looking. I normally try and respond to every post, but work and life just don't afford me the time I like to have to my hobbies.

VEry nice so far mate!!!!!!

Incredible! Well Played!

That's one model that ain't never gonna break!

I love it when hobbies come together.

Speechless! That acid worked really well!

It looks good already, without painting!

Ye gods pox you haven`t lost a step have you? This is beyond awesome mate, and you`ve kinda made that your hallmark haven`t you

What`s next? A fleet to go along with the landa

R

BY MORK, DAT FING'S A RIGHT BEOOTEE! CAN I HAS IT BOSS, CAN I?

Holy moly!

Thanks again everyone for all the kind words, I didn't expect so may responses so quickly! I normally only post when I have an update, but I saw Red Skullz post and just had to respond.

 Red Skullz wrote:
Ye gods pox you haven`t lost a step have you? This is beyond awesome mate, and you`ve kinda made that your hallmark haven`t you

What`s next? A fleet to go along with the landa

R

What's next? I'm currently learning about robots so I have plans for an automated steam Gargant, a Mek-bot that walks and can aim weapons, and a Gargant that has a heads-up display that feeds to a monitor. I also want to get more into machining, so I have plans for a jump-Deff Dread and another Battlewagon.

However, none of this is "Next."

What's next? I'm building an Ork Warbike. I just bought the base "model" to convert, but due to work I probably wont be able to begin construction in ernest until the end of summer. Look for the thread around August though, I guarantee it will be a doozy.

Bravo good sir. Bravo. It is a work of art.

This is impressive sculpture, just incredible. The work you put into it shows, and it is absolutely hemorrhaging flavor. Really great work, man. I'd love to see more!

Great stuff, i hope you don't get a hernia when using it in a game

Oh god, a warbike? Once the local gang sees you, they'll be runnin' outta town!

What an absolute mess.

Perfect.

Your crazy! but this is awesome, i am only halfway caught up in the blog! wohahahaow.


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Dude, i havent the slightest idea if that is the right amount of guns, you may need more! kidding, actually have you counted how many guns, rockets, bombs and missles you have on that metal beast?

HOLY GORKA-MOLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jehan-reznor wrote:Great stuff, i hope you don't get a hernia when using it in a game

Well, it is thirty pounds. I'll be sure to use proper lifting techniques every time I attempt to move it.

Deunstephe wrote:Oh god, a warbike? Once the local gang sees you, they'll be runnin' outta town!

I do hope it will turn some heads. we will see, there's a fine line between rat rods and a bike covered in crap. Working on the design now, but sadly it will have to wait till after sumer.

wolfmerc wrote:Your crazy! but this is awesome, i am only halfway caught up in the blog! wohahahaow.


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Dude, i havent the slightest idea if that is the right amount of guns, you may need more! kidding, actually have you counted how many guns, rockets, bombs and missles you have on that metal beast?

Basically, the Landa has 22 turrets and a battery of ten pulsa rokkits. I wanted to keep it basic so I'll probably just call the turrets twin-linked kannons (eleven per side,) and the Rokkits are for the special rules needed to clear a spot big enough to set the thing down onto the table. I'll figure out rules and post them once it's fully painted and finished. I'm sure I could break it down to twin-linked kannons, twin linked big shootas, single kannons, and what nots but I know from Apocalypse experience that simple is better.

I got a big update!

First up, I got thew rust where I wanted it. I used the acid, salt, diesel fuel, fire, and CLR to get the final look.

One quick note before I show the next picture! I set the model on fire in a contained burn area at work, and its sitting on a sheet of drywall. off camera was another Mek with a Co2 extinguisher and a hudson sprayer. We take fire safety at work very seriously, and so should you. DO NOT SET YOUR MODELS ON FIRE UNLESS YOU ARE TRAINED PROFESSIONALS!

That being said, I soaked the Landa in diesel and lit it on fire.



I then let it sit for a few hours, and pressure washed it to remove all smelly diesel. I then gave it a salt bath, let it sit again for a few hours, rinse and repeat.



Once I had the rust I wanted after a week of adding and removing, all that was left was lightly sanding and polishing.
Here's a close up of the difference.



After I finished sanding out the detail work, I put on a few thick layers of clearcoat. This should stop it from rusting further (a little will always occur) and it will give me a solid base to paint on. I'll be using an airbrush and a salt resist technique, I didn't want the salt further discoloring it.

While it was drying from the clear coat, I made a handle that attaches to the shackles and Pad-eyes.



After attaching the handle, I was able to get an accurate final weight! It's 30 pounds, or just shy of 14 Kg.



Here are some detail shots of the finished rust.







All that's left is painting! I hope to work on it this week, but I have to play it by ear. They just switched me to six days a week, and at twelve hours a day my free time is becoming...limited.

Even if I have no updates by next weekend, I should have a free day sometime before the end of the month. Again, thanks for looking!

Wow, just wow!

Wow... that is like nothing other.

Wow awesome

 pox wrote:
I soaked the Landa in diesel and lit it on fire.

This just makes me smile!

Brilliant. Abso-foppin'-lutely brilliant.

Americans!
Allways go over the top with everything!

But looks so fething good i cant deny that.
Stunning work mate, really am lost for words other than that

While not worrying about it falling on stuff, can a table actually take its weight?

 Commander Cain wrote:

 pox wrote:
I soaked the Landa in diesel and lit it on fire.

This just makes me smile!

QFT

Wow... just wow. That is just ridiculously great! The welded metal really works for the orks. Not sure if you've decided to paint it or not, but as it looks now it might just fit with the rest without much painting. But then again, red ones go fasta!

Incidently, I'm seeing some similarities between your landa and the reaver ships from Firefly. Any chance this is part of your inspiration?

Jackal wrote:Americans!
Allways go over the top with everything!

But looks so fething good i cant deny that.
Stunning work mate, really am lost for words other than that

While not worrying about it falling on stuff, can a table actually take its weight?

Sweet Gorka-Morka, I'm tired of talking about the weight. What the hell do y'all use for a gaming table, paper-mache? foam-core set atop two saw horses made of cardboard? A small mouse? Yes, gaming tables can take the weight. If I went somewhere and wasn't sure it could, do you think I'd risk my model?!?

Agandhjin wrote:Wow... just wow. That is just ridiculously great! The welded metal really works for the orks. Not sure if you've decided to paint it or not, but as it looks now it might just fit with the rest without much painting. But then again, red ones go fasta!

Incidently, I'm seeing some similarities between your landa and the reaver ships from Firefly. Any chance this is part of your inspiration?

I did re-watch the better Reaver scenes from the series and film for detail ideas, but honestly it's just pure Ork. I've been building Ork Gak for so long I have quite the collection of inspiration. Honestly the greatest contributor to the model was the various Kroozer class ships from Battle Fleet Gothic.



I just have a small update today.

Now that I have the rust where I want it, I started putting salt on for the resist technique I'm using to paint it.



Sadly, I had a lot of problems making the salt stick. Normally I do the resist after painting rust. On this model however, I didn't want the salt to change the rust so I clear coated it first, thus giving too slick a surface to paint on. I found a work around by making a witches brew of Klean Sweep (fine sawdust mixed with light oil,) sand, and both sea and table salt.

Here's the Landa fully covered.





The resist technique wont work if theres ANY moisture on the surface at all, so I need to let it fully dry overnight. I should be able to start airbrushing tomorrow, so another update soon!

Fantastic work! Definitely some unconventional weathering techniques.

very impressed.

Alright, I got some airbrushing done.

First up, the black base coat.






Next I layered in some highlights.





After that, I add some red.





Lastly, I added some details. glyph plates, flames, checks, dags, etc.







Next up, blowing off all the salt and sand. Thanks for looking!

OMG this is so cool can't wait to see pictures of it in a game.

After much fighting with an air compressor, wire brushes, and stiff bristle brushes, I got all the salt off.

I was going to write something but I think this picture sums it up nicely.

 Karokk wrote:
I was going to write something but I think this picture sums it up nicely.

QFT

I thought it was awesome before the paint. What comes after awesome?

The weathering effects are really good looking. Of course, you get to cheat. It must be fun to be able to answer questions about how you got such a realistic rusting effect with "I use real rust"

I could see a PDF trooper watching this beast land and him running in mortal terror, or curling up in a ball and crying

Mean 'n' proppa. Added bonuses for inborn pure orkyness.

That is simply, Ork Nothin more, nothin less.

"It'll work boss.. Mork sez!"

I just.. can't.. oh my god.

DO you even have the orks to sustain such a beastie?

I just did something in my own pants upon seeing this. You sir are amazing.

This continues to be freaking amazing O_O

Impressive, sir, very impressive indeed.

You're not doing anything to dismiss the idea that you're actually an Ork, you do realise...

I... can't... believe... this... Must... use... smileys...

Wow, just wow!

The weathering effects are really good looking. Of course, you get to cheat. It must be fun to be able to answer questions about how you got such a realistic rusting effect with "I use real rust"

What a fun project! It was great watching it all come together, job well done sir!

 pox wrote:

What's next? I'm currently learning about robots so I have plans for an automated steam Gargant, a Mek-bot that walks and can aim weapons, and a Gargant that has a heads-up display that feeds to a monitor.

Oh God, please take all of my yes for this.

That. Is. Frakking. Amazing.

On a side note, is it magnetic? You could just glue magnets onto the bases of all your orks and pop them in that hangar/mouth thingy, then when you start a game just plonk the landa down, open the hatches and have all the orks in there ready to go. And i'm sure it'll make for some kick-ass pictures as well