this question may have been asked already or it might be common knowledge, but i can't find it anywhere. it has been bugging me for a while now. please help me Dakka, what is the emperors name? surely he has a real name, not just a title.

This may not be current fluff, but its been alluded to that he is all of the significant figures throughout human history, so he is conceivably Jesus, King Arthur, Ghengis Khan, Buddha etc etc

I'm going to guess Satan, just for shock-value.

When the Old Ones (known as God and his Angels) created humanity, the Emperor saw how strong they would grow to be and tried to conquer them. It was a long and bloody war, and it came to bitter end at Mars, where the Emperor was bested and made to flee.

He spent years nursing himself back to health, and recuperating his lost power. All the while, he monitored humanity's growth. He saw the rise of the Eldar and the carnage of the Orks, and he watched intently as the first humans took flight. With a bitter satisfaction, he saw the Old Ones plunged into extinction, and their memory fade from the annals of history.

It was during the Dark Age of Technological, when humanity was at its weakest, when it truly needed a savior, that Satan saw his opportunity and took it. His name was a curse, a blasphemy, and so he hid from it. All men were to address him by his title instead; the God Emperor.

Satan haha LL nice one as always. I was gonna say Hans for unknown reasons, but that name isn't embarrassing enough.

I like to think that he doesn't really have one beyond "The Emperor". He is, after all, a combination of several individuals, so a title as a name would suit that concept.

 LoneLictor wrote:
I'm going to guess Satan, just for shock-value.

When the Old Ones (known as God and his Angels) created humanity, the Emperor saw how strong they would grow to be and tried to conquer them. It was a long and bloody war, and it came to bitter end at Mars, where the Emperor was bested and made to flee.

He spent years nursing himself back to health, and recuperating his lost power. All the while, he monitored humanity's growth. He saw the rise of the Eldar and the carnage of the Orks, and he watched intently as the first humans took flight. With a bitter satisfaction, he saw the Old Ones plunged into extinction, and their memory fade from the annals of history.

It was during the Dark Age of Technological, when humanity was at its weakest, when it truly needed a savior, that Satan saw his opportunity and took it. His name was a curse, a blasphemy, and so he hid from it. All men were to address him by his title instead; the God Emperor.

The Emperor was created after humanity came about, though. He's the result of several human shamans sacrificing themselves and reincarnating into one body.

Palpatine. Gotta be.....

His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

 Troike wrote:
I like to think that he doesn't really have one beyond "The Emperor". He is, after all, a combination of several individuals, so a title as a name would suit that concept.

 LoneLictor wrote:
I'm going to guess Satan, just for shock-value.

When the Old Ones (known as God and his Angels) created humanity, the Emperor saw how strong they would grow to be and tried to conquer them. It was a long and bloody war, and it came to bitter end at Mars, where the Emperor was bested and made to flee.

He spent years nursing himself back to health, and recuperating his lost power. All the while, he monitored humanity's growth. He saw the rise of the Eldar and the carnage of the Orks, and he watched intently as the first humans took flight. With a bitter satisfaction, he saw the Old Ones plunged into extinction, and their memory fade from the annals of history.

It was during the Dark Age of Technological, when humanity was at its weakest, when it truly needed a savior, that Satan saw his opportunity and took it. His name was a curse, a blasphemy, and so he hid from it. All men were to address him by his title instead; the God Emperor.

The Emperor was created after humanity came about, though. He's the result of several human shamans sacrificing themselves and reincarnating into one body.

That's just one theory.

Personally, I dislike the idea that the Emperor is space jesus suffering more multiple personality disorder.

In Prospero burns it explains that when a daemon knows your name it has power over you to control you or take away your power, hence the reason no one can never know the Emperors true name.

So while he could of gone hundred's of names know one can know his real name.

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

RotFL.

BTW: Caesar is appropriate for the Emprah in my opinion. That or August, since they built an awesome empire which, after their death (Caesar was killed by his son, Brutus... Empy and Horus anyone?), started to crawl because the politicians were corrupted (High Lords of Terra).

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

That changes my whole perspective.

 PunkNeverDie110 wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

RotFL.

BTW: Caesar is appropriate for the Emprah in my opinion. That or August, since they built an awesome empire which, after their death (Caesar was killed by his son, Nerone... Empy and Horus anyone?), started to crawl because the politicians were corrupted (High Lords of Terra).

Caesar was killed by his friend and possible son Brutus (he frakked his mother a lot but was only 15 years older than Brutus). "Et tu Brute?" comes to mind.

It could be Cartagia.....See how he was fixated on Godhood.....how would Londo fit in....

 Beaviz81 wrote:


Caesar was killed by his friend and possible son Brutus (he frakked his mother a lot but was only 15 years older than Brutus). "Et tu Brute?" comes to mind.

Jesus what a mistake I made. Really, really awful. Nerone burned a sector of the city because he wanted to purge the Christians. What a mistake... shame on me while it was Brutus who killed Caesar. It's certain,

"Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi!"

The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

And if the Emprah was, in fact, the last reincarnation of the Doctor :O?

 PunkNeverDie110 wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:


Caesar was killed by his friend and possible son Brutus (he frakked his mother a lot but was only 15 years older than Brutus). "Et tu Brute?" comes to mind.

Jesus what a mistake I made. Really, really awful. Nerone burned a sector of the city because he wanted to purge the Christians. What a mistake... shame on me while it was Brutus who killed Caesar. It's certain,

"Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi!"

I'm willing to believe you joked, but then again telling that about Nero who acted rather heroically during the fire is something else. Then again Roman Emperors had a nasty tendency to go insane.

 Beaviz81 wrote:

 PunkNeverDie110 wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:


Caesar was killed by his friend and possible son Brutus (he frakked his mother a lot but was only 15 years older than Brutus). "Et tu Brute?" comes to mind.

Jesus what a mistake I made. Really, really awful. Nerone burned a sector of the city because he wanted to purge the Christians. What a mistake... shame on me while it was Brutus who killed Caesar. It's certain,

"Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi!"

I'm willing to believe you joked, but then again telling that about Nero who acted rather heroically during the fire is something else. Then again Roman Emperors had a nasty tendency to go insane.

I made a mistake. A huge mistake. Dunno why, but I did. I didn't say that Nero whas a bad emperor, I said that he burned down a christian sector of Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_Rome<- the Great Fire of Rome. Yes, Nero paid with his own funds, but many historians believe that was him who set up everything.

Him taking the sites as an expansion of his imperial palace have most to do with the rumors as I don't believe them myself, but remember you have an insane emperor of Rome here.

 PunkNeverDie110 wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

And if the Emprah was, in fact, the last reincarnation of the Doctor :O?

Be warned, spoilers...

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

That about sums up my thoughts on the subject.

In the novel Pariah

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

Clearly his name is For. The say "For, the Emperor" many more times than "In, the name of the Emperor". In is just a nickname

He's also heavily alluded to be St. George the Dragon-slayer.

 LoneLictor wrote:

That's just one theory.

Personally, I dislike the idea that the Emperor is space jesus suffering more multiple personality disorder.

It's the one on the Lexicanum, so I guess it's the most canon one there is.

The theory doesn't say that he has multiple personalities, it says that several personalities merged into one whole personality.

 Fezman wrote:
In the novel Pariah

Spoiler:

finding out the Emperor's name is the main aim of the villains so they can somehow gain power over him. I expect we'll have to wait for the whole trilogy to be finished to see if there are any clues to it.

I like it when BL books shed some more light on the more mysterious portions of the lore.

I'd so pick this book up if I didn't have like four BL books to catch up with already.

 Troike wrote:

 Fezman wrote:
In the novel Pariah

Spoiler:

finding out the Emperor's name is the main aim of the villains so they can somehow gain power over him. I expect we'll have to wait for the whole trilogy to be finished to see if there are any clues to it.

Spoiler:

Oooh, so he does have an actual name?

I like it when BL books shed some more light on the more mysterious portions of the lore.

I'd so pick this book up if I didn't have like four BL books to catch up with already.

At the moment, it's too early to know.

I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being left unclear as to whether he does or not, otherwise we might be skating a bit too close to altering ancient fluff...

BTW, if you're going to read it, it's worth reading Eisenhorn and Ravenor first.

Liam Pourer, it was just heard incorrectly.

 Troike wrote:

 LoneLictor wrote:

That's just one theory.

Personally, I dislike the idea that the Emperor is space jesus suffering more multiple personality disorder.

It's the one on the Lexicanum, so I guess it's the most canon one there is.

The theory doesn't say that he has multiple personalities, it says that several personalities merged into one whole personality.

He is a fusion of all of humanity's first psykers. He has their memories, not their personalities. His power is also greater than the sum of his parts.

 Fezman wrote:
In the novel Pariah

Spoiler:

finding out the Emperor's name is the main aim of the villains so they can somehow gain power over him. I expect we'll have to wait for the whole trilogy to be finished to see if there are any clues to it.

Spoiler:

Oooh, so he does have an actual name?

I like it when BL books shed some more light on the more mysterious portions of the lore.

I'd so pick this book up if I didn't have like four BL books to catch up with already.

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:


The theory doesn't say that he has multiple personalities, it says that several personalities merged into one whole personality.

He is a fusion of all of humanity's first psykers. He has their memories, not their personalities. His power is also greater than the sum of his parts.

I know, I was just continuing Lone Lictor's focus on personality to address his point about multiple personalities. Probably shoud've pointed that out.

Pretty sure his name is "Jimmy Ray"

Carl Sagan.

 LoneLictor wrote:

 Troike wrote:
I like to think that he doesn't really have one beyond "The Emperor". He is, after all, a combination of several individuals, so a title as a name would suit that concept.

 LoneLictor wrote:
I'm going to guess Satan, just for shock-value.

When the Old Ones (known as God and his Angels) created humanity, the Emperor saw how strong they would grow to be and tried to conquer them. It was a long and bloody war, and it came to bitter end at Mars, where the Emperor was bested and made to flee.

He spent years nursing himself back to health, and recuperating his lost power. All the while, he monitored humanity's growth. He saw the rise of the Eldar and the carnage of the Orks, and he watched intently as the first humans took flight. With a bitter satisfaction, he saw the Old Ones plunged into extinction, and their memory fade from the annals of history.

It was during the Dark Age of Technological, when humanity was at its weakest, when it truly needed a savior, that Satan saw his opportunity and took it. His name was a curse, a blasphemy, and so he hid from it. All men were to address him by his title instead; the God Emperor.

The Emperor was created after humanity came about, though. He's the result of several human shamans sacrificing themselves and reincarnating into one body.

That's just one theory.

Personally, I dislike the idea that the Emperor is space jesus suffering more multiple personality disorder.

It's not a theory, it's old fluff. Old, uncontradicted fluff (though notably unused as well).

Not to mention, the War in Heaven, again uncontradicted, happened far, far before the birth of mankind. Millions of years before, in fact.

While time does not exist in the warp (hence why Slaanesh always existed yet was birthed by the Eldar), time does exist in in the material world. For the Old Ones to have had a war with 'Satan', there had to, you know, be Old Ones. The Old Ones were dead and gone by the time the Emperor was born.

It's a good theory, and thoroughly entertaining. It just doesn't line up with the timelines of the War in Heaven.

Personally, I call him Joffrey, it just seems right.

I don't know why...

Hat if his name is just the first letter of every primarch and he orchestrated their names he is after a bad azz psyker and ridiculously old words were a little weirder back then

 LoneLictor wrote:

 Troike wrote:
I like to think that he doesn't really have one beyond "The Emperor". He is, after all, a combination of several individuals, so a title as a name would suit that concept.

 LoneLictor wrote:
I'm going to guess Satan, just for shock-value.

When the Old Ones (known as God and his Angels) created humanity, the Emperor saw how strong they would grow to be and tried to conquer them. It was a long and bloody war, and it came to bitter end at Mars, where the Emperor was bested and made to flee.

He spent years nursing himself back to health, and recuperating his lost power. All the while, he monitored humanity's growth. He saw the rise of the Eldar and the carnage of the Orks, and he watched intently as the first humans took flight. With a bitter satisfaction, he saw the Old Ones plunged into extinction, and their memory fade from the annals of history.

It was during the Dark Age of Technological, when humanity was at its weakest, when it truly needed a savior, that Satan saw his opportunity and took it. His name was a curse, a blasphemy, and so he hid from it. All men were to address him by his title instead; the God Emperor.

The Emperor was created after humanity came about, though. He's the result of several human shamans sacrificing themselves and reincarnating into one body.

That's just one theory.

Personally, I dislike the idea that the Emperor is space jesus suffering more multiple personality disorder.

Its not "just one theory" it is the origin story of the Emperor published by GW in the old Realms of Chaos book.

I don't know what his real name is, but his homies call him Big Eddie

Chuck Norris!



Sorry, couldn't help it.

 mjl7atlas wrote:
Chuck Norris!



Sorry, couldn't help it.

Sly Marbo's misformed child.

wow. lot of great answers. i really should start reading more of the novels. i was wondering how long it would take before someone said Chuck Norris lol.

Bob.

He is the Living God who walks the Earth in huckster's shoes.

The Emperor was created after humanity came about, though. He's the result of several human shamans sacrificing themselves and reincarnating into one body.

This isn't cannon, and there isn't any 100% proof on the origin or creation of the Emperor. However i have thought about the Old ones, they are apparently Lizards in space, i think we could safely assume they have Shamans as their spiritual leaders or guides, if the Old ones used these Shamans to create the Eldar and Orks then why couldn't they create the Emperor i dont know.

The only fact we know is that logic dictates the Old ones created the Emperor.

Someone also mentioned the Emperor wasn't around when humans came about, this is false the first 'human life' if we assume the Emperor is human was in fact the Emperor.

Homo sapiens sapiens came sometime after who knows how the evolution or instantaneous creation of humans came about. It seems the Old ones snapped their fingers and said "Let there be Eldar, and there was Eldar, they said "Let there be Orks" and then there was suddenly Eldar and Ork.

It would seem Humans were the same way? Insert assumption. The eldar refer to humans; sometimes saying they were 'spawned from the muck', this too me sounds like an slang reference to evolution. But who knows? EVERYONE!? False. NO ONE.

Again someone mentioned that the Emperor fought the Old ones. This is false, the Emperor did not this we know for certain, the Old ones had left our Galactic plane and Universe before this could even become a possibility, And by the way the Old ones would snap their fingers and say "Undo thyself" the the Emperor would disintegrate.

However the emperor did seem to capture and tie up a shard of C'tan the void dragon, or perhaps an actual C'tan, once again we dont know this as 100% cannon just 100% assumption/logic.

If however the Emperor came about on Terra and there were somehow humans already in existence which im 99% sure there weren't his true form may not be Human looking at all, his shape or real self could be something entirely different. Using his massive psychic power he could develop and make himself a new 'shell' 'form' so to speak. This way humans wouldn't be afraid of his 'true form.'

Im starting to think the Emperor was like the C'tan a sprite, a ball of focused condensed psychic power that was sent to Terra and there he remained until the Humans developed or however we were created and then the Emperor sprite took form. This makes the most sense to me.

GW has revealed that the Emperor has siblings and normal human parents.

As much as people try and deny it, the origin of the Emperor being born to human parents in 8000BC after all human shamans committed mass suicide and combined their total essence into one super being in the Warp before finding a suitable vessel, is canon. It is confirmed and clarified by GW, they wrote it and never retconned it.
The idea that the Old Ones, who died out millions of years ago, could have created the Emperor is bollocks at best. It's some fan spank that spread like a disease through the fandom. It is unsourced and impossible.

Nobody knows, but he likes to be called:

The Emperor
The Emprah
The Big E
Big Daddy Empy
Big Pappa Emprah

And many, many more xD

 Frecklesonfire wrote:

The Emperor was created after humanity came about, though. He's the result of several human shamans sacrificing themselves and reincarnating into one body.

This isn't cannon

Yes it is.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Emperor#Origins

If the lexicanum said i was your God would you believe it?

Just because something is in the Lex doesnt make or mean its cannon. Ive never heard or seen these books that are sourced.

Then the onus is on you to do your research.

Daniel Mandelbaum ......

 Frecklesonfire wrote:
If the lexicanum said i was your God would you believe it?

Just because something is in the Lex doesnt make or mean its cannon. Ive never heard or seen these books that are sourced.

Oh, well here's the book that establishes it as canon.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Realm_of_Chaos:_The_Lost_and_the_Damned#The_Lost_and_the_Damned

Now you've heard of it.

Its also worth mentioning that almost every race has psychic powers and these races were created by the Old ones. Its almost impossible to not be created by the Old ones and have psychic powers.

he idea that the Old Ones, who died out millions of years ago, could have created the Emperor is bollocks at best. It's some fan spank that spread like a disease through the fandom. It is unsourced and impossible.

They are not dead, they didn't die out, they left. Read Necron codex.

Your telling me its more realistic that human shamans that were so powerful are somehow able to combine into one being? All of a sudden we got a group of Goku's and Vegita's? lmao. This is so wrong. Your saying that humans have the knowledge to combine metamorphosis like together into a being of psychic power strong enough to beat a C'tan shard or full strength. ? Only one thing could do that, the Old ones.

As for all of the Lex's info on the emperor i just read it, sounds made up at best and a lot of the stories and accounts are rough ideas and old stories, the stories that aren't cannon, weren't based on cannon.

 Frecklesonfire wrote:
Its also worth mentioning that almost every race has psychic powers and these races were created by the Old ones. Its almost impossible to not be created by the Old ones and have psychic powers.

he idea that the Old Ones, who died out millions of years ago, could have created the Emperor is bollocks at best. It's some fan spank that spread like a disease through the fandom. It is unsourced and impossible.

They are not dead, they didn't die out, they left. Read Necron codex.

Your telling me its more realistic that human shamans that were so powerful are somehow able to combine into one being? All of a sudden we got a group of Goku's and Vegita's? lmao. This is so wrong. Your saying that humans have the knowledge to combine metamorphosis like together into a being of psychic power strong enough to beat a C'tan shard or full strength. ? Only one thing could do that, the Old ones.

As for all of the Lex's info on the emperor i just read it, sounds made up at best and a lot of the stories and accounts are rough ideas and old stories, the stories that aren't cannon, weren't based on cannon.

Dude. The Shaman reincarnation theory appeared in a book which was made by Games Workshop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_of_Chaos_%28Warhammer%29

Are you saying that Games Workshop is not a valid source for 40K canon?

No, but its a source for sometimes gakky canon I would like to ignore.

I prefer to believe the Emperor is Satan. And really, he isn't as bad as the Bible portrays him. Its just that, history is written by the winners, and the Old Ones who won didn't look too kindly on lil' Satan.

I'm the first to admit it throws canon out the window, but honestly I like it just because of how much seething hatred it attracts from the "The Imperium is the good guys" type of player.

According to TVTropes, Malcador knows the Emperor's true name. They didn't cite where that comes from, though, so I don't know the original source. At any rate, I don't see why GW has to reveal it. We know it exists and that the Emperor used tons of fake names throughout history, likely for a wide variety of practical reasons (protection from chaos being an obvious one). At that point, plot-wise, it doesn't really matter whether his name was Alraciousneverklalksalajhsalm or Bob, I think.

 Frecklesonfire wrote:
Its also worth mentioning that almost every race has psychic powers and these races were created by the Old ones. Its almost impossible to not be created by the Old ones and have psychic powers.

he idea that the Old Ones, who died out millions of years ago, could have created the Emperor is bollocks at best. It's some fan spank that spread like a disease through the fandom. It is unsourced and impossible.

They are not dead, they didn't die out, they left. Read Necron codex.

Your telling me its more realistic that human shamans that were so powerful are somehow able to combine into one being? All of a sudden we got a group of Goku's and Vegita's? lmao. This is so wrong. Your saying that humans have the knowledge to combine metamorphosis like together into a being of psychic power strong enough to beat a C'tan shard or full strength. ? Only one thing could do that, the Old ones.

As for all of the Lex's info on the emperor i just read it, sounds made up at best and a lot of the stories and accounts are rough ideas and old stories, the stories that aren't cannon, weren't based on cannon.

Human shamans could reincarnate. One day they realised that it was getting harder to do so, so they all committed mass suicide, and reincarnated into the one body. You have everyone on this thread telling you that it is cannon. By the time the Emperor was born, the remaining Old Ones were nothing more than backwards lizards on a few nameless rocks. They did not create the Emperor.
You have been given several sources as to where it is mentioned that the Emperor was born of humanity's last remaining original psykers before the Warp got too turbulent and daemons began to eat souls.

The Emperor is the ultimate human psyker, that's why he is so powerful, he wasn't some last ditch Old One creation. It's said that the Old Ones created humanity in the beginning, but by the time Emperor was born, they were gone. If he was create by the Old Ones, then why doesn't he go around obliterating tomb worlds during the Crusade? Because the Old Ones didn't create him and tell him about their biggest enemy, this huge threat that would soon be awakening to wipe out all life.

You are wrong. Normally I'm all up for a good debate, people passing opinions back and forth, but you are just ignoring proof and spouting out the same crap over and over and over.

There are some who call him.... Tim

TiamatRoar wrote:
According to TVTropes, Malcador knows the Emperor's true name. They didn't cite where that comes from, though, so I don't know the original source. At any rate, I don't see why GW has to reveal it. We know it exists and that the Emperor used tons of fake names throughout history, likely for a wide variety of practical reasons (protection from chaos being an obvious one). At that point, plot-wise, it doesn't really matter whether his name was Alraciousneverklalksalajhsalm or Bob, I think.

If Daemons can destroy people with just their names, why were Reboute, Rogal Dorn, Sanguinius, the Lion, Vulkan, Ferrus Manus, Corvus Corax, Leman Russ, and Malcador all safe?

False!!

bodazoka wrote:
False!!

Who are you talking to?

 LoneLictor wrote:

bodazoka wrote:
False!!

Who are you talking to?

I think he is implying that the Emperor's name is False, making him the False Emperor. We have a chaos sympathiser methinks

 LoneLictor wrote:

TiamatRoar wrote:
According to TVTropes, Malcador knows the Emperor's true name. They didn't cite where that comes from, though, so I don't know the original source. At any rate, I don't see why GW has to reveal it. We know it exists and that the Emperor used tons of fake names throughout history, likely for a wide variety of practical reasons (protection from chaos being an obvious one). At that point, plot-wise, it doesn't really matter whether his name was Alraciousneverklalksalajhsalm or Bob, I think.

If Daemons can destroy people with just their names, why were Reboute, Rogal Dorn, Sanguinius, the Lion, Vulkan, Ferrus Manus, Corvus Corax, Leman Russ, and Malcador all safe?

Simple, they weren't daemons!

Jeffrey Lebowski.

 mjl7atlas wrote:

 LoneLictor wrote:

TiamatRoar wrote:
According to TVTropes, Malcador knows the Emperor's true name. They didn't cite where that comes from, though, so I don't know the original source. At any rate, I don't see why GW has to reveal it. We know it exists and that the Emperor used tons of fake names throughout history, likely for a wide variety of practical reasons (protection from chaos being an obvious one). At that point, plot-wise, it doesn't really matter whether his name was Alraciousneverklalksalajhsalm or Bob, I think.

If Daemons can destroy people with just their names, why were Reboute, Rogal Dorn, Sanguinius, the Lion, Vulkan, Ferrus Manus, Corvus Corax, Leman Russ, and Malcador all safe?

Simple, they weren't daemons!

...I'm confused.

The Emperor was a daemon?

It depends on what you mean by name and what language it is, in english, name is the title of a person that describes him

 LoneLictor wrote:

 mjl7atlas wrote:

 LoneLictor wrote:

TiamatRoar wrote:
According to TVTropes, Malcador knows the Emperor's true name. They didn't cite where that comes from, though, so I don't know the original source. At any rate, I don't see why GW has to reveal it. We know it exists and that the Emperor used tons of fake names throughout history, likely for a wide variety of practical reasons (protection from chaos being an obvious one). At that point, plot-wise, it doesn't really matter whether his name was Alraciousneverklalksalajhsalm or Bob, I think.

If Daemons can destroy people with just their names, why were Reboute, Rogal Dorn, Sanguinius, the Lion, Vulkan, Ferrus Manus, Corvus Corax, Leman Russ, and Malcador all safe?

Simple, they weren't daemons!

...I'm confused.

The Emperor was a daemon?

I think maybe he's alluding to the fact that part of the Emperor is trapped in the warp? Obvioulsy we'll never have any concrete information on this, but perhaps you could take the view that the Emperor could be influenced in such a way because of the part of him that's in the warp? Personally I doubt it, but it's not entirely baseless.

So this realm of chaos book, have any of you read it? Because the information on Lex is just a rough retelling summed up, the point i was trying to get across is that in the actual book, Lex says that the events and stories about the emperor aren't from first hand accounts merely rough tales.

Hell theres a tale that Leman Russ fought a Kraken 'its tenacles could wrap around fenris but russ deemed it too small so he through it back into the sea' ya... and i shoot thunderbolts out of my arse!

Read it? I own it. Both of them.

And the tale of Russ fighting the Kraken is considered to be a legend, even by the modern Space Wolves. Based on true events, but grown in the telling.

 Frecklesonfire wrote:
the point i was trying to get across is that in the actual book, Lex says that the events and stories about the emperor aren't from first hand accounts merely rough tales.

Ture, but in the absense of any other official theories, it's pretty much canon. And "rough tales" can still have lots of elements of truth to them.

Besides, I think that GW writes some things deliberately unclearly so that they're easy to go back and change or retcon later on.

Yes, I've read them both. And of course there are no first hand accounts, he's 10,000 years old today, so there's only rough tales about his origin. You have literally the entire thread telling you that his origin is a fact. Just admit that we're all right.

His name is Francis... obviously.

 Warpig1815 wrote:
Palpatine. Gotta be.....

Ha ha now I just imagine him sitting on the golden throne, his corpse going "yees, yees, goood!" in a darth sidious voice

Frank.

I call him...... Tim....

I know a man whp goes by the name of....matt
either that or the wizard named tim

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15797189/

A non-canon, but an amazing story of the Emperor. Make sure you read all the way to the end for the full effect.

Personally, I think his name, lost to the mists of time, is Urechyobureniho. (An Internet for the first to get the reference).

First name false, second name Emperor.

Hulk Hogan.

Search your feelings, you know it to be true!

Warwick Davis...

Stelio Kontos? They look similar enough.

He likes his ladies to call him Big D

He's david cameron obviously :p

 DerangdFlamingo wrote:
He's david cameron obviously :p

The Emperor "Call me Emp" Cameron.

Mo Dakka wrote:
this question may have been asked already or it might be common knowledge, but i can't find it anywhere. it has been bugging me for a while now. please help me Dakka, what is the emperors name? surely he has a real name, not just a title.

His real name is:

Reginald Douchebag Racist Quazimodo667776545667 the fourth.

Boreale.

 Selym wrote:

Mo Dakka wrote:
this question may have been asked already or it might be common knowledge, but i can't find it anywhere. it has been bugging me for a while now. please help me Dakka, what is the emperors name? surely he has a real name, not just a title.

His real name is:

Reginald Douchebag Racist Quazimodo667776545667 the fourth.

He was probably one of the powerful people. Most likely a God because he was probably the best Physker in the World of 40k

I remember on GameFAQs Dawn of War boards that people called him Venerate, thanks to the Librarian from those games. "Venerate the Immortal Emperor".

Rodger

Tod Spengo

a hither to never before seen vid capture from Horus's terminator armor cams...



His name was removed from all records and replaced by his title...but many traitors still flinch at the mention of Tod Spengo!

Shama lama ding dong.

Blast Hardcheese.

I thought his name was Emprah!

The Emperor tells no one his name as knowledge of a persons name grants you power over them.

Josef Stalin

 Sword Of Caliban wrote:
The Emperor tells no one his name as knowledge of a persons name grants you power over them.

It's as if 40K is set in the internet.

 Troike wrote:

 Sword Of Caliban wrote:
The Emperor tells no one his name as knowledge of a persons name grants you power over them.

It's as if 40K is set in the internet.

Amazing.

 Troike wrote:

 Sword Of Caliban wrote:
The Emperor tells no one his name as knowledge of a persons name grants you power over them.

It's as if 40K is set in the internet.

As if...

Batman!

Tommy Wiseau



YOU'RE TEARING ME APART HORUS

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

The Doctor has a name though, a Gallifreyan one. The Doctor is his title and he uses that as his name now because he fixes things.

Shaozun wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
The Emperor was born around 8000BC, whatever his name was, it isn't his name now. His name is The Emperor. Think of the Doctor, no name, just a title. Whatever his name was, it's a secret, lost to the ages.

The Doctor has a name though, a Gallifreyan one. The Doctor is his title and he uses that as his name now because he fixes things.

He won't let anyone know his name, it's his biggest (second biggest?) secret. Like the Emperor, he adopted a title and became nothing but that. The Doctor was the Doctor long before he started fixing things.

It is obviously Morgan Freeman.

All hail the king of everything!

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

Get Sig'd

Emperor had a normal childhood in ancient Anatolia, his name was from there and is of little significance. He is only the Emperor now.

He was "born" in Anatolia, so I wouldn't be surprised if he had an ancient Turkish name.

Yes, born indeed to a normal primitive human mother that had no idea that her son would outlive them all and be the master of mankind... only to get it all wrong at the end and be a cripple corpse on a throne with no way of escaping or healing.

So sad.

 CadianXV wrote:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15797189/

A non-canon, but an amazing story of the Emperor. Make sure you read all the way to the end for the full effect.

This is a thing of beauty! I'm in awe.

 Melissia wrote:
He was "born" in Anatolia, so I wouldn't be surprised if he had an ancient Turkish name.

Its 8.000 BC.
Anatolia is the name we know, Turks may live there, but 10 millenia ago?

IMO GW just grabbed a region they heard of really ancient ruins... and placed him there.


The Emperor doesn't need a name given by one of the specialists of naming at GW .

What, you don't think Bloodholy Ironblood Gutslaughter is a good name?

His name is obvious, it is Hugh Mann.

I for one endorse the last reincarnation of the Doctor theory.

Truth be told, it's the kind of character development I could actually see happening over a long-enough timescale, and one the show has been developing towards for some time. Now all we need is a chapter of Cool Marines with fezes and bowties.

Lando Calrizzian

Just like the Custodians take multiple names the Emperor has taken every name of the multiple shamans he was reincarnated from, as his own.

Where else do you think the Custodians got the idea from in the first place, right?

Coanan (lawyer friendly)

Not quite sure if this is a necro.....

Eldercaveman wrote:
Not quite sure if this is a necro.....

It can't be... The Emperor isn't quite dead yet. In fact I think he wants to go for a walk...

The Emporer is superman.

 TheDiscoSpider wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
His name is "In" obviously. How many times in BL novels do they say "In, the name of the Emperor"? BL is just a bit lax with punctuation and the appropriate comma tends to get missed

Clearly his name is For. The say "For, the Emperor" many more times than "In, the name of the Emperor". In is just a nickname

He's also heavily alluded to be St. George the Dragon-slayer.

For.. Slightly mistranslated THOR?

The Emperor is the basis for one of the Norse gods?