Still looks like a 40k bank armored car to move the golden thrones about(In Inquitor, the RPG, they pay with thrones as the coins are called), Even has vault door in the back! Looked good in the link with triple axles
6 Wheels does look nice! I'd like to see Zinge's wheels on it. It's the first thing I thought of when I first saw the Taurox. It sees like everyone universally hates the treads on that thing.
dsteingass wrote: 6 Wheels does look nice! I'd like to see Zinge's wheels on it. It's the first thing I thought of when I first saw the Taurox. It sees like everyone universally hates the treads on that thing.
You got that right! it is ugly enough with the wheels, but many trucks are like that. The all treads just looked like they were appealing to little timmies"
I know this sounds stupid but I think I might have a go at this, but low rider it, drop it to the floor, drop the roof even more or take it off, maybe stretch it a bit. And give it to me orkssess of course.
shasolenzabi wrote: Problem I see is that the maker did not make the tires clear the fenders of the Taurox
I think the tires are just holding up the taurox, nothing is glued together as that same model was shown with multiple setups of tires. I think he just removed one set and added another to show what they'd look like.
shasolenzabi wrote: Problem I see is that the maker did not make the tires clear the fenders of the Taurox
I think the tires are just holding up the taurox, nothing is glued together as that same model was shown with multiple setups of tires. I think he just removed one set and added another to show what they'd look like.
Ah, so once they decide what they want to do with it, the finished model should have clearance, and I do like the tires more than the kiddy-treads
Welp...I just spent the first money with GW in well over a year
And now to place a Zinge order....
Automatically Appended Next Post: The following pictures are for all the curmudgeonly old farts out there who wailed and moaned about the name change and how it would ruin something
You may now take your blood pressure meds and relax From my initial flip-through so far, not too much seems to have changed.
Sly Marbo is gone, Rough Riders are still there. Maybe I'll finally bust open the metal box of them I have
Plenty of pics of the new Plastic Ratlings and Ogryns
Some interesting new wargear and vehicle options to take too
Well, damn. I had you down as the font of all knowledge concerning hobbits....including hobbits in space Gonna have to move you from the top of the list now.....
well... dave... I expect to help keep the honour of all that love the imperial guard to make something that doesn´t hurt the eye out of the taurox... maybe you get even an additional rush of creativity and come up with a better name
the scions package I probably get myself too... I think there is plenty of use for a guy like me that works with plate armor for guardsmen all the time...
Just had an idea for the taurox . Everyone hates the fender mounted guns, why not fender mount magnetized hobbits in space . That way your shots an pivot .
SM heads have that reinforced skeleton, which includes the skull. Make of that what you will Dave
I own SM, but I find too many new codecii are influenced by the whines and cries of jealous baby marine players.
They were jealous the IG got the Hydra, so, they get 2 new tanks that shoot down planes. Really? just couldn't include a new missile for the Whirlwind? FW Makes such the Hyperion class Whirlwind.
SM got the Centurion, gives biggert toughness, and extra wound, and allows 2 weapons to be fired if they have more than one system on them, Oh and with a device that allows split fire,,,,,Centurion=SM crisis suit sans jet-pack.
IG could use twinlinking more than SM as they have the worse Ballistic skill, but SM have almost twinlinked everything!
Automatically Appended Next Post: SM are given something that mimics other codex entries in effects when the baby mariney players cry loud enough.
@Vik. I'm just going through the Scion sprus now....there are a TON of options!! I mean..this is a great direction that GW is going with the separate shoulder/upper arm and knee/shin combos as far a I'm concerned. I still have a lot to play with, but these two sprues really look like a converters dream so far. OF course, when they are wearing armor I suppose it's easier to cut and reform limbs than when they are wearing bare skin or cloth.
@Shas..Marines have everything. Playing guard rewards strategic playing and requires more painting/modeling effort as far as I'm concerned. More grown up..I dunno. I suppose I should keep my Marine opinions to myself.
Bring your marine opinions dave, it's all good . I play marines, but they all wear helmets. My favorite part of a black library book was a traitor marine smiling as he pot shot these inferior new marines who were so stupid that they went around without wearing their helmets .
I like guard, just hated painting all those models that came off the table as fast as they were put out there. As it stands right now if someone made me a decent offer on all my marine stuff I'd take it. That's how tired I am of GW and their hit and miss system, marketing and price gouging.
One small complaint with the Scions sprue though....You can give two of the squaddies Hot-Shot volley guns, but only one Hot-shot volley gun is included on the sprue. Hot-Shot volley guns are supposed to be good all-around Marine/Nob/Armored infantry killers. I usually sacrifice my elites as a scary distraction/diversion for my opponent, but this weapon seems to have a decent offensive capability. You need to buy more than one box, I guess that's the idea (or convert your own double-barreled hellguns)
did i get this right that there is only one box...and that you could either build a command platoon OR a stormtrooper squad out of the sprue? GW website is making a difference between the two options... same for the bullgryns/ogryns...???...i am being daft here...right?
and indeed it is converters paredise with the scion sprue...found the bitz already on bitz sites (a tad pricey if you ask me) and i have seen some nice bitz that add a ton of character... for instance the holstered lasgun...that is a nice touch... also the greatcoat set is nice...would love to see that built ...
the only thing i don´t really like that much is the suspensor to the leg bitz... that is a bit more medival than i like in my minis... tho probably not that daft to wear, eh?^^
You mean the codpeices? Yeah, keeping your nuts safe is important Yes, from the same box you can either build 5 stormtroopers or 5 command squad stormtroopers. However, you don't need the command squads to play them. A squad is 5 guys, with options to add up to 5 more to the squad for 12 points each plus gear. Ogryns/Bullgryns are the same.
I think the confusion is that they don't label them as Scions/Command squad on the box. That seems a trend with the new box style from GW...It's as if they don't ever think it all the way through or something.
GW exec1 "we will cut the number of troops in the box but add lots of extras to entice HHHobbyists"
GW exec2 "sir, then people will only buy the minimum number of troops"
GW exec1 "don't be silly boy, we will not provide enough of all the good bits so they will buy a second box to have all options. Muhhahahaha!"
GW exec2, scratching his head momentarily. "But....won't some third party come up with similar weapons and parts and get sales like the last 56783 times we did tha..........OW!" Being slapped by exec1
GW exec1 "it won't matter, its all part of my cunning plan, we will release Warhammer 40k version 7.01 in a few months and the models will be obsolete as soon as the rules leak out." Grinds hands and snickers to himself. "Why do you think we have made such ugly kits like the centurions, taurox, and storm chicken.."
GW exec2 "talon sir, talon, no chicke....OW!"
GW exec1 "never interrupt me again! Now where was I. Oh yes, we saved money by not paying anyone over 6 years old to design our models, give them the HHHottest™ rules around, then once they are hooked we change the game and bring in wave 2 of the rules ruining the wave 1 items and releasing the new HHHotness™. It is a winning cycle that these fools will never escape."
GW exec2 "what if they get tired of all the new rules and move on to something not GW?"
GW exec 1 "then we send in the Legal Department!"
GW exec2 "Riiiiiiiiiiiight, I'll see you later sir, seems mantic is hiring any former GW staff that don't have their HHHeads™(by mantic) up their "
Sorry I started and just couldn't stop , probably should have hit delete, but hopefully someone gets a giggle even if its AT poor old Theophony"
We'll increase the cost of everything, and start selling $100+ models, and limited edition models, and that will convert us into a "Collectible" hobby, and that's where the money is.
It worked for Model Railroading, it'll work for us.
You can slap a Cadillac badge on a Tahoe or slap a Lexus Badge on a Toyota and charge 25% more for it. Where you been Brian?
Oh well, there's always the grenade launcher on the sprue...Guard players never have enough grenade launchers in their bitz boxes. It's not like the great Meltagun shortage of 2009.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm thinking that the weapons and arms may need to be painted separately as will the heads....
@Vik- they are a bit more Baroque than Medieval I think....
dsteingass wrote:I think the confusion is that they don't label them as Scions/Command squad on the box. That seems a trend with the new box style from GW...It's as if they don't ever think it all the way through or something.
the thing is I could make a screenshot of the website of the GW shop and it shows two entries... which reeks of stupidity...in my humble opinion...
Theophony wrote:They've thought it through carefully.
GW exec1 "we will cut the number of troops in the box but add lots of extras to entice HHHobbyists"
GW exec2 "sir, then people will only buy the minimum number of troops"
GW exec1 "don't be silly boy, we will not provide enough of all the good bits so they will buy a second box to have all options. Muhhahahaha!"
GW exec2, scratching his head momentarily. "But....won't some third party come up with similar weapons and parts and get sales like the last 56783 times we did tha..........OW!" Being slapped by exec1
GW exec1 "it won't matter, its all part of my cunning plan, we will release Warhammer 40k version 7.01 in a few months and the models will be obsolete as soon as the rules leak out." Grinds hands and snickers to himself. "Why do you think we have made such ugly kits like the centurions, taurox, and storm chicken.."
GW exec2 "talon sir, talon, no chicke....OW!"
GW exec1 "never interrupt me again! Now where was I. Oh yes, we saved money by not paying anyone over 6 years old to design our models, give them the HHHottest™ rules around, then once they are hooked we change the game and bring in wave 2 of the rules ruining the wave 1 items and releasing the new HHHotness™. It is a winning cycle that these fools will never escape."
GW exec2 "what if they get tired of all the new rules and move on to something not GW?"
GW exec 1 "then we send in the Legal Department!"
GW exec2 "Riiiiiiiiiiiight, I'll see you later sir, seems mantic is hiring any former GW staff that don't have their HHHeads™(by mantic) up their "
Sorry I started and just couldn't stop , probably should have hit delete, but hopefully someone gets a giggle even if its AT poor old Theophony"
LOL...theo at its best... I actually pictured that scene rather vividly in my mind... you seem to have quite the insights in mad marketing it seems... it takes a thief to catch one...
Briancj wrote:We'll increase the cost of everything, and start selling $100+ models, and limited edition models, and that will convert us into a "Collectible" hobby, and that's where the money is.
It worked for Model Railroading, it'll work for us.
that's my take on the hobby anyways as I am probably forever too dumb to play it...and no one currently there to play with me^^
dsteingass wrote:You can slap a Cadillac badge on a Tahoe or slap a Lexus Badge on a Toyota and charge 25% more for it. Where you been Brian?
Oh well, there's always the grenade launcher on the sprue...Guard players never have enough grenade launchers in their bitz boxes. It's not like the great Meltagun shortage of 2009.
what a crazy world we live in...
Automatically Appended Next Post: also... after the auto adding of the sprue...
have you noticed that the head/necks are now just after the SM image designed? what does this tell us?
and... what do you think of the posings possible to the legs...? will they be able to kneel?
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Vik- they are a bit more Baroque than Medieval I think....
totally up my alley in fact as I lend towards a more da vinci era anyways after my recent works...the turtle tank finalised my scheme I think in my head^^
Oh well, there's always the grenade launcher on the sprue...Guard players never have enough grenade launchers in their bitz boxes. It's not like the great Meltagun shortage of 2009.
Please tell me you're joking about not having enough grenade launchers.
That was sarcasm, but yes, craploads of grenade launchers, and no real use for them. At least flamers don't scatter.
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Vik- Yes, it appears that with a bit of work, kneeling poses could be possible. As for the heads/necks.>I suppose armored torsos make the difference.
Thing is, I really like the look of the Valhallan grenade launchers, and the missile launchers. Its too bad they aren't the most effective things in an army list.
I hope the addition of a metal trim to the armour is not the start of a trend for GW... They are better looking than the Chaos things, but a bit unnecessary in my eyes.
Also, would it amuse you to know that I started buying GW models to save me money on my plastic-crack addiction...
Some of my helmetless spoiled troops are showing their tragic gene issues, a fairly stable defect, but still, makes my marines ab-humans of sorts, which freaks out other marine players as I fly things in the face of their fluff. I prefer the rocky road to vanilla!
I like guard for the ides of having to be more cautious with assets or also sacrifice others, the fact of camo painting makes the models more interesting as also, these are normal guys and gals doing their part! They get average stats, weapons that are about middle range, and still even if given better gear and guns, fight everything the Marines have to face. I think that makes for some damn good stories from such fights.
I like the ornate additions to the armor. 40K should have a bit more Baroque on Guard at times. 30K Imperials seem all fashioned out of an eclectic mix of historical European styles. With Guard being from a million different worlds, and armor being manufactured all over, I think there is definitely room for many styles. WE are the ones brainwashed remember? The Vostroyans had a great Baroque feel to them I think, backed up by that one great short story about the facial hair too. Each Imperial governor can run his world as he sees fit as long as he keeps up his Imperial tithes remember? And they all develop their own styles, traditions and ways of life over the Millennia. STC tech was only really used to colonize worlds, not everything NEEDS to look the same. That's all our minds.
Besides..these are Schola boys..they get the best of the best.
I'm all for things looking different. But that's the issue I have with the moulded on details like the trim, it makes it more difficult to personalise the models because you either have to remove it or cover it up.
The Scions armour does look nice. I just hope they don't get carried away and start doing it on everything. Then it will all start to look the same again, like the chaos range.
Look forward to seeing what you do with all the new shinys, Dave.
GW exec1 "we will cut the number of troops in the box but add lots of extras to entice HHHobbyists"
GW exec2 "sir, then people will only buy the minimum number of troops"
GW exec1 "don't be silly boy, we will not provide enough of all the good bits so they will buy a second box to have all options. Muhhahahaha!"
GW exec2, scratching his head momentarily. "But....won't some third party come up with similar weapons and parts and get sales like the last 56783 times we did tha..........OW!" Being slapped by exec1
GW exec1 "it won't matter, its all part of my cunning plan, we will release Warhammer 40k version 7.01 in a few months and the models will be obsolete as soon as the rules leak out." Grinds hands and snickers to himself. "Why do you think we have made such ugly kits like the centurions, taurox, and storm chicken.."
GW exec2 "talon sir, talon, no chicke....OW!"
GW exec1 "never interrupt me again! Now where was I. Oh yes, we saved money by not paying anyone over 6 years old to design our models, give them the HHHottest™ rules around, then once they are hooked we change the game and bring in wave 2 of the rules ruining the wave 1 items and releasing the new HHHotness™. It is a winning cycle that these fools will never escape."
GW exec2 "what if they get tired of all the new rules and move on to something not GW?"
GW exec 1 "then we send in the Legal Department!"
GW exec2 "Riiiiiiiiiiiight, I'll see you later sir, seems mantic is hiring any former GW staff that don't have their HHHeads™(by mantic) up their "
Sorry I started and just couldn't stop , probably should have hit delete, but hopefully someone gets a giggle even if its AT poor old Theophony"
GW exec1 "we will cut the number of troops in the box but add lots of extras to entice HHHobbyists"
GW exec2 "sir, then people will only buy the minimum number of troops"
GW exec1 "don't be silly boy, we will not provide enough of all the good bits so they will buy a second box to have all options. Muhhahahaha!"
GW exec2, scratching his head momentarily. "But....won't some third party come up with similar weapons and parts and get sales like the last 56783 times we did tha..........OW!" Being slapped by exec1
GW exec1 "it won't matter, its all part of my cunning plan, we will release Warhammer 40k version 7.01 in a few months and the models will be obsolete as soon as the rules leak out." Grinds hands and snickers to himself. "Why do you think we have made such ugly kits like the centurions, taurox, and storm chicken.."
GW exec2 "talon sir, talon, no chicke....OW!"
GW exec1 "never interrupt me again! Now where was I. Oh yes, we saved money by not paying anyone over 6 years old to design our models, give them the HHHottest™ rules around, then once they are hooked we change the game and bring in wave 2 of the rules ruining the wave 1 items and releasing the new HHHotness™. It is a winning cycle that these fools will never escape."
GW exec2 "what if they get tired of all the new rules and move on to something not GW?"
GW exec 1 "then we send in the Legal Department!"
GW exec2 "Riiiiiiiiiiiight, I'll see you later sir, seems mantic is hiring any former GW staff that don't have their HHHeads™(by mantic) up their "
Sorry I started and just couldn't stop , probably should have hit delete, but hopefully someone gets a giggle even if its AT poor old Theophony"
Made me think of Blackadder
I actually was going to use that quote, but decided to stop where I was. glad people enjoyed it.
dsteingass wrote: I like the ornate additions to the armor. 40K should have a bit more Baroque on Guard at times. 30K Imperials seem all fashioned out of an eclectic mix of historical European styles. With Guard being from a million different worlds, and armor being manufactured all over, I think there is definitely room for many styles. WE are the ones brainwashed remember? The Vostroyans had a great Baroque feel to them I think, backed up by that one great short story about the facial hair too. Each Imperial governor can run his world as he sees fit as long as he keeps up his Imperial tithes remember? And they all develop their own styles, traditions and ways of life over the Millennia. STC tech was only really used to colonize worlds, not everything NEEDS to look the same. That's all our minds.
Besides..these are Schola boys..they get the best of the best.
I sooooo second your statement.
Its really what we can think of in our tiny little heads All these worlds and planets out there, each with their own flavour - Guard really has ALL the possibilities you can think of. Just make a nice little story around it ....well and don't buy third party
Dave, I just thought of what the taurox needs besides zinge tires.....mudflaps , I know you could rock some awesome mudflaps out, and I bet they'd be riveted on as well .
Firstly, Hi Dave! :-) sorry i've been out of touch lately thanks to being a day walker again :-( *sigh* but I've been trying to stay up to date with your projects! I am really looking forward to seeing you get back into some IG work and models, especially that god awful armoured car thing! and the new scions? storm troopers right? I like the goggled heads and can see you doing something special with the unit for some reason! I dunno they seem a little more Dave-ish than some other models :-)
Yeah, I kept busy this past week(end) with other stuff unfortunately. I read the prequel novel to Bioshock, so naturally, I had to play BioShock 1 and 2 (and the DLC for Infinite). Man, that is a truly fascinating story! It would make for some interesting Art Deco terrain if a game and miniatures existed. The next weekend will probably be full of yardwork and other stuff too, maybe I'll get some hobby time, I dunno. I started reading the Macharian Crusade books, hopefully that will inspire me a bit.
Dave, enjoy your off time. I keep looking or inspiration as well. Tried to tidy up the workspace and hoped that would do it....nope. I haven't been able to even get excited about black library books, but I've just put down Vulkan Lives and the Mark of Calth because I couldn't get into them.
Hawk wargames drop zone commander is releasing a new faction that is very Art Deco. Including a mono rail train that fits the bill also, too bad they are such small scale.
I read the orus Heresy books up through Mechanicum, but the Space Marine books were better at first, when they seemed more human. I really do prefer the Guard Novels, Dan Abnett is even much better when he's writing about footsloggers or Titans vs. Marines IMHO. William King (of Gotrek & Felix fame) wrote these Macharian books, so it's got a lot of humanity to it so far.
As for Art Deco..there's just something about the Underwater City of Rapture that really sparks my imagination. The designs seem impossible to do in miniature...maybe that's the appeal/challenge? I dunno.
Apologies, Ladygeek had to have a surgery. She is doing fantastic, recovering much quicker than expected, but then I had to make up my shifts missed @work over the weekend. I get today off to recover, but then back to the M-W shift. In the meantime, in lieu of anything here, be sure to check out the -=]_=- Comp Round 10! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/595454.page
If lady geek needed to stay at the hospital and saves work schedule being what it is, no wonder if beany is all jittery due longer stays at home all alone...dogs need someone around them...they are pack animals...
Announcing my imminent return to the modeling desk in August.
The new job has been quite a life and schedule adjustment, however I am now past my 90 day contractor period and am now a full-time blood employee (USA USA ) Part of that status means we all have to do a stint on the night shift to get the unique experience that comes with night shift work.
This schedule change will coincide with GenCon for me. so:
1. I'll have new loot to play with after GenCon (as I always do)
2. I just built a new gaming rig (not really relevant, but exciting)
3. my off-work nights will be spent in the man-cave alone with plenty of long hours to work on stuff.
4. obviously, ladygeek will be sleeping while I'm home, so loud noises such as power tools will be non-kosher, but field tests have proven that my Badger Airbrush compressor does not wake her up.
I cannot express how excited I am to hear the news and seeing dave post in his own thread . Only good can come of this . One of these years ill make the trip to gencon .
Thanks Theo! Ahh Vallejo air...some of my favorites! It's a good product, I have many, but it's good to see the game hues getting a lighter consistency for airbrush application!
*looks at his calendar* "sheesh...santa is coming early this year!"
welcome back dave! it has been quite along time... I was always wondering the last coupla days when you posted in my thread or others when you would return for good...all that lurking I suppose is not good for ones back...the hunched up stance takes its toll^^
one of the fiew things I will get me when my apprenticeship is over and the first paycheck rolls in is getting me a compressor and some paints to really start to get me through all this backlog of stuff to paint... that and after that a baneblade ... until then I will scratchbuild me one^^
...and that we are to be treated to more of your modelling.
THanks, hopefully I remember how!
Valhalla130 wrote:Welcome back, Dave. It's been too long since I've seen an update on this thread.
At least one worth anything
Viktor von Domm wrote:*looks at his calendar* "sheesh...santa is coming early this year!"
welcome back dave! it has been quite along time... I was always wondering the last coupla days when you posted in my thread or others when you would return for good...all that lurking I suppose is not good for ones back...the hunched up stance takes its toll^^
one of the fiew things I will get me when my apprenticeship is over and the first paycheck rolls in is getting me a compressor and some paints to really start to get me through all this backlog of stuff to paint... that and after that a baneblade ... until then I will scratchbuild me one^^
Thanks buddy! my DCM even expired I had to fix that right away! You'll be unstoppable once you start airbrushing Vik! Well at least after you buy several gallons of red paint
Camkierhi wrote:Welcome back sir, good to hear you.
well... I still have your brilliant air brush pistol... and it is sitting in a cupboard...all quit and patient...bidding its time...which will come...eventually....
and red... I actually own one bottle of Vallejo already
I feel so much like a slack friend Dave! seriously in the last couple weeks i've had every intention of emailing you to see how things are but I kept running out of time! I am honestly totally stoked to hear you are all safe in job land now! and the news you're going to have hobby time is music to my ears! I bet you have soooooo many ideas waiting to come out?
Good to see you back Dave! Back in the day when I was more frequent here your projects where high on my inspiration list, so It'll be nice to see more again
And already waiting for the promised full come-back, too, so don't hold back!
Thanks Little! once I clean my workbench off..it's on
shasolenzabi wrote:Dave is on the path back here!
Yes, like going to Ludicrous speed, you must prepare!
inmygravenimage wrote:Always happy when a classy dakkanaut boomerangs back.
I'm classy? since when?
nerdfest09 wrote:I feel so much like a slack friend Dave! seriously in the last couple weeks i've had every intention of emailing you to see how things are but I kept running out of time! I am honestly totally stoked to hear you are all safe in job land now! and the news you're going to have hobby time is music to my ears! I bet you have soooooo many ideas waiting to come out?
Thanks Damo! Much appreciated bro! Oh yes...yes indeed.
The first order of business will be to utilize my recent shipment of Dr. H Plumbing supplies in a proper Fallout bathroom.
Rogue Wolves wrote:Good to see you back Dave! Back in the day when I was more frequent here your projects where high on my inspiration list, so It'll be nice to see more again
lolz, Dave's ALWAYS got tons of cool gubbins and ideas! the hiatus has just given us a cushion of waiting so he will now never run out of things to show us!
I hope you come back from gen con with a big sack filled to the brim with plastic crack and this will drive you over the edge and finally be a more regular visitor here
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years...
Another GenCon has come and gone, and while exhausted, we had a fantastic time!
This is the scene EVERY MORNING outside ONE of the dealer hall doors when they are about to open them at 10AM
You earn 100XP every time you navigate this throng while avoiding a crop-dusted fart
Skirmish Games were the theme this year it seems....
Mercs - http://megacongames.com/games/mercs/ If you haven't seen the kickstarter buzz on this one, it's a small-scale near-future sci-fi skirmish game meant to be played with 5-man teams and played very tactical
Ladygeek chose Texico and House 9, I chose EU, Inc (so new it doesn't even have a box yet), and House 4 factions. The models are fantastic, and I'm really looking forward to building some terrain for this game. It plays on a 2x3' board, which is convenient.
Wild West Exodus - http://www.wildwestexodus.com/ Finally Western Steampunk! Remember my walking steam train scratchbuild? Well I fell in love with these miniatures (35mm) and picked up the starter set and the rulebook. Steampunk Union Soldiers FTW! So much potential for terrain too. This has me very very excited indeed!
Here are some shots of the demo table in the dealer's hall
And then there is this (no I didn't get one...yet)
Mantic was showing strong this year, They had intro games running constantly during the con:
Ladygeek's Dwarves
Deadzone- I'm not sure about the gameplay on this one yet, but Theo turned me onto the potential of the terrain. Here I have a metric ass-ton of the stuff, and they were practically giving i away at con prices!
RIVET WARS - http://rivetwars.com/ The only boardgame we bought was this hybrid bard/miniature game. THIS GAME (fantastic title aside) is loads of fun, and we got our copy signed by Ted Terranova.
The Con exclusive miniature was a not-Indiana Jones
On the hobby front:
I got to meet our very own Galorn working the Games & Gears booth! Although when I went back to find him later in the weekend, he wasn't at the booth, maybe they let him sleep I didn't get to talk to him much, he was a busy guy
Pro Studio Brushes, soap, towerls, GenCon Exclusive portable brush, and the Badger Airbrush booth was selling these nifty airbrush stencils as well as their own line of AB primer! (Finally)
I heard BrianCJ was there, but I never found the Artemis room this year. I hope he had a good con too!
This guy, Joe Latham of Cathedral Arcanum - http://www.cathedralarcanum.com/ had his wares for sale at the WarStore booth. Some high Quality sandbacg casts
and..Female Not-Cadians!
Miscellaneous:
(really) heavy Metal Steampunk D6s
I played in a 7+ hour Apocalypse (Guard vs. Orks) game- the revenge of Ghazkull from last year's game I played in (long-time readers may remember)- More on that later
and a great intro game of Bolt Action as well.
There were not as many really impressive gaming tables this year though, despite the biggering of the gaming table areas, Infinity had the most impressive tables, however they were ALWAYS crowded, and I didn't get a chance to do much with Infinity.
Warsenal could've made a TON of money if they only had a booth! Here is Corvus Belli's phenomenal demo table
I've looked at rivet wars during the kickstarter and in the local shop. Looks fantastically fun. Iveseen the development of Mercs over the years as the maker was always getting plugged on the dreamforgegames site. Hurray for kings of war dwarf army, lady geek will have fun with those rules, I love the orcs, and my brother in law plays undead. As for Wild West Extreme, one word......Romeo..... The models look neat, and I like the concepts for it, but his name is tied to it and I can't go there. That train was a steal for backers of the kickstarter, I think they got it for like $60.00 and now its a couple hundred to buy poor planning that . All the other haul looks cool as well, one year .
I can't read the deadzone book without getting bored. I think all my sprues of buildings from the set will just get necromundified. Make sure to build up your callouses on your fingers before assembling the deadzone terrain, the clips can bite .
Heh..I'll give you a name that trumps Romeo...Alessio I don't pay much attention to the politics of game designers and what they say. I just care about the fusion of Wild West and Steampunk/tech....the imagination can go wild from there.
Wow, just wow! that looks like awesome dude! so much fun and soooo much models! :-) thanks for the offer the other day too but I'll be supplied with a Vulkan to paint from WM360 :-)
so how's the work life balance going now you've had some adjustment time? looking forward to hobby time again? we certainly are looking forward to you getting back the busy fingers and sticky rivets....
Thanks Damo! B the time I got to the GW booth, they were sold out anyway. In fact, they didn't have a single thing that I wanted there. They offered free shipping, but meh. I am excited to get my hobby on again!
Graven- I saw their DS9 exclusive, it was impressive, but the molded color was horrible, it needed paint for sure.
the local shop holds STAW tournaments all the time. I think they got 3 of the DS9s as prizes. two had been given out and the third is in the shop. I had to pass on STAW because o the looks and scale, but I am much more of a trekkie. I think the big thing that wizkids has going for them is that they do a fantastic job with tournament support and prizes. Like the DS9 station, cards, and limited models.
As a personal rule, I generally avoid pre-painted minis, because you see people all the time at conventions buying huge crates, and standing near a trash can at one of the food courts, stripping packaging, hoping to find a rare miniature. The disproportionate scale bothers me too Theo. Everyone knows a Galaxy Class should be more than twice the length of the Constitution Class!!
The Texico MERCS minis are cleaned up, ready for primer. I just have to decide on a color scheme and basing.
Automatically Appended Next Post: My initial use of the Badger AB primer has me very, very happy
Now thats a haul must have been a bitch to carry home you're so lucky that Ladygeek shares your interest mine just goes O more plastic little men
Hows those brushes working out for you by the way and the travel brush hows that work
The primer seems to have a great coverage can I be cheeky and ask for a scale shot of some of the Rivet Wars vehicles next to say an IG mini please
I kind of had hopes for the Exodus minis but the scale issue blew that idea out of the water, still great looking minis though and the Mercs as well, youve got some fun times ahead.
Camkierhi wrote:It looks a nice off white! I like.
Also model looks brilliant, is that a Merc's or Exodus model?
Thanks, that was one light coat. This is the MERCS Texico Marshall
Ramos Asura wrote:Do you find you need to thin the primer at all for best results? I havent had the chance to mess with my bottles much yet.
NO! Airbrush primer is designed to be used right from the bottle with no messing with it. However, Vallejo Primer seems liek it needs more shaking than this stuff. Magic chemistry methinks
GiraffeX wrote:That's a really great haul Dave, I bet that must be a fantastic event to go to.
Now I need to go and clean the dribble from my screen.
It is! It's a glorious time to be amongst 50k+ of our people!
OneManNoodles wrote:Thats one hell of a haul, can't wait see whats in all those boxes and to hear about those bolt action and apoc games.
Looks like cathedral arcanum might be a company to watch.
The mercs figs look very good quality.
Me too! The pictures of the games are so-so. I didn't lug the digital camera around this year, just relied on my Galaxy smartphone for pics..I don't like/am not adept at the smartphone camera controls yet.
Viktor von Domm wrote:RRRRRrrrrrrrr!.....
good to see you with such a big haul of plastic crack...!
if I would be on that con ...I would have hysterics about loosing or getting my treasure stolen by some freaks...
as for the merger of steampunk and the wild wild west....... we all know that is always the right road to successful nerdgasm^^
by the way... a lil bird told me you might exactly find such a thing, in a in my thread....*nudge; nudge; nudge, wink, wink, wink*
Your train is going to be a masterpiece for sure Vik! We always book our hotel room as soon as they open the registration in March every year. We stay at the Mariott, right across the street (and connected by overhead hampster tunnels) to the convention center. That way after our feet start to hurt from walking through the dealer hall, it's a short trip back to the hotel room to drop off the loot, rest, refresh, and head back when we're ready. The loot tends to collect in bags back at the hotel, leaving it safe and secure. I made a specific trip for most everything you see here, especially the bigger boxes. Even so, a convention of geeks tends not to have issues with stuff getting stolen, we bring MILLIONS of $$ to the city of Indianapolis every year, and where large gatherings of people always generates some crime, not so much with a bunch of gaming geeks. The local restaurants and pubs all theme their menus for us and are really generally welcoming with events and Sun King brewery even brews a special beer every year for GenCon. This year is was called "The Froth of Khan"
lone dirty dog wrote:Now thats a haul must have been a bitch to carry home you're so lucky that Ladygeek shares your interest mine just goes O more plastic little men
Hows those brushes working out for you by the way and the travel brush hows that work
The primer seems to have a great coverage can I be cheeky and ask for a scale shot of some of the Rivet Wars vehicles next to say an IG mini please
I kind of had hopes for the Exodus minis but the scale issue blew that idea out of the water, still great looking minis though and the Mercs as well, you've got some fun times ahead.
I am lucky! oh so lucky! It took us one trip down to the parking garage with our luggage, and one trip down with the loot, the Kia did the rest of the work The Rivet wars stuff and the WWX stuff are just not the same scale, I accept that, and in a way it is refreshing for me, since that means I get t make ALL NEW stuff for them!
The brushes seem of very high quality, so far so good.
shasolenzabi wrote:One hell of a load of stuff Dave! Dang! you will be busy a while!
I always worry about a car called KIA "Killed In Automobile" always springs to mind SHUDDERS
No I know the Rivet War stuff is a scale of its own but I had an idea of converting some of their tanks and walkers to Grot uses so was wondering of the actual size, hence the request for the IG comparison to get an idea that was a hint by the way
Those brushes look like quality but it was the travel brush that was of interest, so new scaled scenery on its way then I guess of a wild west theme maybe
I'll have to take a pic of one for ya then LDD ALthough, the tanks aren't out yet, they were on display with the expansions, but they need to fulfill the KS orders before they release them to the rest of us.
I'd trust (both of our) Kias over any GM product
So, I spent the night painting, not done yet, but you might get the idea now.
These are similar to Infinity models with all the damn armor panels (but not the dinky limbs) many highlights and details still to add. At this point in the early morning, all the orange and brown looks the same
Very fitting for a dusty environment and see where you are going with these, the green is a brave choice but works don't think I would have been so daring.
I am sure the KIA is a fine vehicle we have plenty knocking around here these days, Its just the car tag it always makes me think that
Yes if you don't mind a comparison pic that would be great mate, I thought the starter box set had tanks ? obviously not I hope it ain't long before the general release then.
I think thats why I have never been a fan of the infinity range but there new biker models look pretty cool
The Eastern Front box has walker tanks, Battle for Brighton will have air units, Second Wave has at least an allied tank, and Heavy Metal will have the bigass tanks.
It looks like the Ottomans will be getting an infantry tank
Honestly, I just more or less copied the Texico Corporate scheme colors. It's not original, but I figured that it works for Texas and Mexico. Texico is the weakest and most broke Mega Corp in the fluff.
Phew...just looked through all of this thread over about 5 days. Hobbits, terrain galore, Billy Bragg, Daft Punk and now a Gencon motherload of goodies. Cannot wait to see what you do with all of that stuff.
Thraxas Of Turai wrote: Phew...just looked through all of this thread over about 5 days. Hobbits, terrain galore, Billy Bragg, Daft Punk and now a Gencon motherload of goodies. Cannot wait to see what you do with all of that stuff.
Well Thraxas if you have a spare month you should check Dave's old thread . Theirs a gold mine in there as well.
dsteingass wrote: I'll have to take a pic of one for ya then LDD ALthough, the tanks aren't out yet, they were on display with the expansions, but they need to fulfill the KS orders before they release them to the rest of us.
I'd trust (both of our) Kias over any GM product
So, I spent the night painting, not done yet, but you might get the idea now.
These are similar to Infinity models with all the damn armor panels (but not the dinky limbs) many highlights and details still to add. At this point in the early morning, all the orange and brown looks the same
that fella up front is missing an arm???...on purpose or did beany have a hearty meal on him?...
painting looks very good... love the vivid green inbetween...
now we just have to see you scratch build something so that we get our old dave back!!!
also... when doing a google picture search for steam trains and so on your steam walker always pops up...you´re thus google famous^^
I'll just leave this post over here.....seemed to remember someone who enjoyed the 1980s , cause who's scooby doo going to call when he finds a real ghost?
I began clipping billions of Deadzone sprues and fiddling with them for MERCS ideas. Thinking of ways of hybridizing them with scratchbuilds for MERCS terrain.
The Ghostbusters are fantastic! Slimer has been eating a bit too much though. I like how they are all sculpted mid-capture.
Oh I ordered the set nonetheless Thanks for the link Theo!
Terrain in Mercs works in a tiered Elevation Rating system, ER1-ER3. ER1 is roughly 4 feet (windows, railings, linear cover- minis are considered ER2) ER2 is the next 4 feet (the part you look and shoot out of) , and ER3 is the second storey. So the standard 3 inch Necromunda/40k/Infinity/etc. floor heights work well.
I saw a Die-Cast ECTO-1 in 1/18 scale@ GenCon at a booth for a ridiculous $200+ price, but that's the wrong scale. I'd probably need something closer to 1/35 or at least a 1959 Cadillac ElDorado Ambulance kit to build upon.
Aww shucks. Heh. Well the night shift is over for me, much to Ladygeek's happiness.... back to long days and long weekends. Being Autumn here now, we seem to be busy every damn weekend now. Soon.
Also, we've been looking at buying a house! One in particular has even caught our eye. complete with an ideal basement with separate, but connected gaming room, and hobby room. more details on that as we know
dsteingass wrote: Aww shucks. Heh. Well the night shift is over for me, much to Ladygeek's happiness.... back to long days and long weekends. Being Autumn here now, we seem to be busy every damn weekend now. Soon.
Also, we've been looking at buying a house! One in particular has even caught our eye. complete with an ideal basement with separate, but connected gaming room, and hobby room. more details on that as we know
I feel so envious of you right now wow what a man cave a basement and a joining games room good luck with that
lol when we were looking for our house my 1 stipulation was that i get space for the hobby, got a whole converted garage/granny annex and i love it, every one should have somewhere they can play with their toys in peace
This house is pretty sweet, it's older, built in the 60s, but the back yard is all wooded, and the back of the house is almost entirely covered with big windows. The kitchen is big with an attached hearth room, but the basement..it's pretty sweet. dated with multicolored tile, but it's dated just the way I like it. The hobby room is the current owner's oil painting studio.
moving is something we too would need to do in a coupla years... but with our both respective hobbies (I guess you know mine...and my wife does knitting and sewing and all other handmade stuff...) and the plethora of toys of the kids , moving would be like hacking of your own leg......even if we would be able to find a fit and not too pricy apartment...
but I wish you both that you get that house as it sounds like a very good match the way you describe it...!
And a nice backyard for beans......and possibly frank if you got a second dog , just watch for ticks on the pet if you have woods that close to home.
How have you faired with the mantic sprues for buildings dave? I just got an idea for mine today, and then after assembling some I got frustrated by all the trimming.
Well if you have to move, that hounds sounds like a right fit for you and Ladygeek and the 4 legged kid, as well as your hobbying needs, and game needs, ah to have a house with such facilities for the hobby, add a fridge for drinks and chilled snax as well as a cabinet for the dry ones,
Oh moving will be a total pain. But this house is only maybe 2 miles away from here. Same side of town. I already told her that with my Piano- we're hiring a moving company to do the heavy lifting. The packing everything up will be the pain in the azz. Not something we'll be doing in a hurry for sure.
Theo- My bench is a mess of DZ parts right now. there are just soo many damn parts in that box..and you know, it seems like not enough of the right ones! Sort of frustrating. I don't really know what I'm doing with them yet Just playing.
I decided to pick up more of the deadzone bits today and stopped by miniaturemarket on the way home. I got the second set down size as the quadrant has too many things I didn't need/want. But I think all the sets are short on connectors. They really have it designed for small buildings for their system and not set up to have enough connectors go do large flat areas wether vertical of horizontal.
If you can buy the new house and still have a few weeks or a month on your current place then being a couple miles away makes for some easy moving, especially with all your gaming materials that don't pack so well. That's how we moved one of the pastors a few weeks ago, my SUV and another parishioners pick up and multiple trips to his new place and storage place that were both less than five miles from his old residence.
Hey just stopped by the local train shop near my house and saw this. I know your a gijoe afficianato, but I never saw this
It's the gijoe Saratoga aircraft carrier. It's only about the size of a sky striker, but it has buttons for lights, attack sirens and an elevator on it. It also has joy sticks on the back when you flip up part of the deck and 6-10 mini f14 fighters. I thought it was cool and thought of you. He's not selling it right now, it was his sons, but he's going to consider it and will call me if he decides to sell.
The planes are about an inch long each, the carrier is about 2' if I remember right.
Found it on YouTube, I noticed it had wheels under it, didn't realize it moved on its own [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z-lzkLgHU8A?autoplay=1[/youtube]
It must've been brand licensed at some point, much like the lunchboxes and HO scale train sets of back in the day. It's got the retro 60's Joe logo rather than the 80s RAH logo, so it probably came out 90s-oughts I'd imagine
'Ello fellas. I'm here. I'd like to wish you all a belated MErry Christmas and Happy New Year! My workbench and painting bench have been silent. We're still looking for a house to buy with the ideal workspace. No real excuse for not having anything to post though.
dsteingass wrote: 'Ello fellas. I'm here. I'd like to wish you all a belated MErry Christmas and Happy New Year! My workbench and painting bench have been silent. We're still looking for a house to buy with the ideal workspace. No real excuse for not having anything to post though.
What could it be? I call that a bloody life sign for sure...
And mind you, I am no stranger to cobwebs around my own unfinished projects...freaking spiders, having no sense for completing ones work in their behalf...
Viktor von Domm wrote:What could it be? I call that a bloody life sign for sure...
And mind you, I am no stranger to cobwebs around my own unfinished projects...freaking spiders, having no sense for completing ones work in their behalf...
looks like a bridge tho...? Innit?
Welcome back matey!
Thanks Vik! I know, if those spiders would just work instead of always worrying about food and breeding not exactly a bridge.
shasolenzabi wrote:Dave making convict troops!
Heh, no, this guy escaped ....downhive.... to get away from Bounty Hunters
That Exodus game you where messing with a while back? You know the one with cowboys and bounty hunters but not quite. You had some Texan guild dude looking AMAZING! Is that it. That would be that kinda terrain I think.
Well, that's obviously Billy No-shirt keeping look-out on top of a wind-swept tower down in the hives - that grimace on his face says it's right breezy.
Ha we pushed him back to the fray and back to the frontline for you sir and a welcomed return, I was staring at your work area in awe all those half finished projects that we remember from days past
Well glad to see you back and back to necromunda by the looks of things so will we be seeing some steady updates and inspiration
Dayum! I be gone for over a year, and what does Dave do... He only gets friggin better! But at least now we know why he's so good... Its not Dave, its the Dave-Cave...
This was an experiment to see how the Dreadzone panels can be used. It's pretty simple tower, nothing fancy, but I'm not a big fan of the way the corners fit, so I covered them with what I realize now was the most expensive option, three triangular strips of styrene. It'll go on the old layout (still classic) and yes, they are my flanges
As for the airbrush, this was also an experiment to see what all can be done with my bigger, Badger Patriot vs. my finer tipped Badger Renegade Krome.
The Salt Method is new for me too. It looks ok. I was afraid I'd overdone it, but really, I Think it was underdone OR it was my choice of a metallic rust basecoat vs. a more orange rust basecoat. The metallic rust looks really nice underneath the yellow, but not as well under the green. More pics of that to come.
Good stuff Dave! new techniques are always fun eh! :-) I think you're right though, a more orange colour under that you could weather down the sides with rust streaks may have stood out more, but the weathering with salt does give nice randomness to it all not to mention the panels you chose are cool as :-)
Yeah, I'll do much more weathering before it's all done. I just bought some Vallejo Washes I'm anxious to try. Plus I'll give it the usual "grimy pre-war" treatment that has worked for me in the past.
I used 2 sizes. Med. Morton's Table salt (The kind in the blue can) and Morton's course Kosher Salt. That's right, this terrain, is now safe for Passover.
I have never done the salt method so cant offer any help with that one, the overall looks good though maybe just highlight a few rust spots on the green section might lift it enough ?
The flanges look great I honestly thought they were a new kit version how did you do the curved pipe section by the way
Thanks guys! It's good to be back. ANd it's good to know people are still interested. Pipes are Hirst Arts casts. The flanges are just glued to them. The valve is from that Chemical plant set.
Yes seems a lot of people use dental plaster I just like the finish you get with resin plus you can cut it easily, from working with Linka moulds as a kid I remember cutting plaster with disastrous results and it easily chips.
Maybe I will try it and see what the results are like though.
Played a bit with Dental plaster, it depends a bit on your mix, I made the mistake of mixing it with PVA and water and some aggregate, it was so solid it could not be cut, I mean literally, it was absolutely solid, tried a hacksaw and it blunted the blade.
so, here are the results with only the salt removed, not bad, but there is much more damage to do...
I also accidentally left scratches, but I can work with that
OH!..and...IMPORTANT SAFETY TIP: salt is like mold lines, you only find them once you post the pic to Dakka
heh..yeah gotta love Government Green. Ultimately, I'd like to get the final color weathered down to "the 12th Precinct, last painted in the 1950s" look
you know the ol´saying max... pics...or it didn´t happen... you can take that proverb this way or that......i expect some sweet builds hopefully soonish?^^
that discussion should by the way drag dave out of hiding^^
Bad news: The first house had basement/foundation issues that were too expensive to repair, so we backed out of that deal. my entire workshop now looks like this:
Good news: We are soooo close to closing on The new Castle Howellstein!!
And holy shiete, do we have SPACE!!!
(disregard the current paint scheme and state of unfinishedness )
dave looking in and spreading the good news^^...
proof of life is always good signs^^
the new (potential) house looks promising, lots of room and from what i see a whole garage/workspace and a veritable mansion...and lots of garden space for peppers...and bean(y)
but i don´t envy you for that state your living in currently...moving is probably next to staying in a hospital the worst scenario i could come up with atm...i hate living with/out of boxes.....
so...here is hoping it will only be short and temporarily...
The House is great, a bit dated in places (built in 1941) but the barn was only built 3 years ago. it has power, water, gas, cable, and Cat5 already ran underground to it I'll have lots of DIY projects, but yeah...you can see the potential.
Oh yeah Vik...plenty of room for all of the things that make life worth living! We're just waiting on the last of the paperwork to be processed. We either close next friday or the friday after that! It IS a done deal!
I don't understand how you can go buy a 40 or 60k car in 2 hours, but a 100k house takes a month Oh well, the anticipation around here is so overwhelming right now, the living half-packed up isn't so bad really. I'm just glad you guys still check in here even when life has me busy. It's much appreciated friends!
btw, all of the "stuff" in these pictures belongs to the previous owner, I can only assume they will clean it all up before we close. I've never bought a house before, so I really don't know what to expect.
Yeah, Dave, moving is a pain. Try having a house built. That really sucks. But glad things are working out. You're better off than I was though - you'll get back to work faster.
Wow Dave! that place looks awesome man! :-) I feel your pain of moving as the first few months of this year was my own big move! but it will always spur you on to bigger and better things in the hobby world! especially when you set up a new work space! it's the bet feeling ever :-)
Yeah, after I get into some DIY biz Like Tom Petty said "The waiting is the hardest part"
We really dig the neighborhood too, an old residential street with a mix of architectural styles, well-maintained by a diverse mix of people. I did NOT want to live in a homogenous neighborhood with nothing but ignorant herpa-derpa people. It's only a few blocks from the St. Joseph river, and while it's very close to downtown and anywhere else we want to go in the city, the local commercial areas are pretty hip, full of local businesses that make it a proper community, including game stores, record stores, coffee shops, small groceries, etc. In other words, it's an area where the "privileged" tend to avoid while they go to their chain restaurants and stores. No neighborhood association telling us what color the mailbox needs to be because the people have mutual respect for each other.
Yeah, after I get into some DIY biz Like Tom Petty said "The waiting is the hardest part"
We really dig the neighborhood too, an old residential street with a mix of architectural styles, well-maintained by a diverse mix of people. I did NOT want to live in a homogenous neighborhood with nothing but ignorant herpa-derpa people. It's only a few blocks from the St. Joseph river, and while it's very close to downtown and anywhere else we want to go in the city, the local commercial areas are pretty hip, full of local businesses that make it a proper community, including game stores, record stores, coffee shops, small groceries, etc. In other words, it's an area where the "privileged" tend to avoid while they go to their chain restaurants and stores. No neighborhood association telling us what color the mailbox needs to be because the people have mutual respect for each other.
Dave you really lucked out with that house! sounds like heaven.
funny mentioning tuesday... on that day i will have my oral exams...or rather the colloquium to my final papers...well...here goes nothing^^
the place looks very nice...and how you describe the neighbourhood is exactly how i want mine too... the place where yu want to le the hair down cant have people around you that tell you how to...!
looked at all the pretty pics... the house is quite spacey... lots of room... only the bath looks smaller...but since you have two of ´em you can still shower simultaneously^^
i have no idea where on a scale i could measure the price of that estate... here you mostly rent... that´s currently the only way for the family of mine to live... we wish we had a house... but that will eventually never happen...:(
anyways^^...good luck with the move! and may your working days be not too long so that the home is soon up and running agan!
Thanks Vic! This same house in any bigger city like L.A, New York, Toronto, etc. would cost 4-5 times as much. Newer homes around here cost about 2-3 times as much, so it's a good deal. I have no idea what makes people want to live in these sterile McMansion neighborhoods where every house looks the same and is built with the same cheap construction materials, but they do. maybe Status, I dunno, don't care. Yeah, there are two bathrooms, exactly what we needed, since we both have to be to work at 7AM every day. Notice the old-school tub/shower combos? The little one is a miniature version of the bigger cast iron enameled tub. I kind of like the almost art-deco style. We are having some work done too. like adding exhaust fans to the bathrooms and a stainless Steel range hood over the stove, as well as a few electrical upgrades. I have a week off work in two weeks when I plan on painting, not miniatures, but walls and ceilings and just doing some basic projects around the place. Good luck on the finals Vic!
at dr H ...i am getting closer to the point where you can call me nursy^^
and i know that shower bat combo... lived my whole life with these^^... but we don´t own the see through wall anymore...as it got too filthy due to our bad water.. so now we just have a shower curtain...
big scale painting... well... as exhausting as it is...at least you see in a sec what you´ve done... that can be in essence a very rewarding deed...especially when moving n and not out...so´s you do it for the future and not for somebody else... hope you don´t have to do too much cleanup in your current home? did you sell it already?