Just LOL!

Wrong, just wrong..... My eyes..... burning.......

It's been a strange day and it just got weird by the way that's not how you read the white dwarf

Although you did sell it with the paint brush all most gave it an artistic flare.

I love this thread!

that gif is really heart-warming

How long did you watch it?

Wow, has THIS thread derailed.

No kidding.

I remember when it had Painting and Modeling in it.

Should I move it over to the OT Forum?

Gif is just brilliant, only thing is it should be a tribble not a ball., and since when do any of Dave's threads stay anywhere near subject????

Ummm excuse me Alph, but I believe I WAS Modeling on the last page Hmmmmmm?

Is that what you call it!

It's called porn here.

I'm painting my Killer Kans right now!

EVERYONE - Leave that one alone!

 Alpharius wrote:
EVERYONE - Leave that one alone!

But...

Oh goody kans, give us a peek PLEEEEEEEase.

Like school children, let's straighten up and act like we're not goofing off when the teacher walks in

Using my precious boltgun metal reserves for the rough over the black.

OOOOOOOO shiny!

Only for awhile.


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Ok, question on the big TEEF on the front of this thing. Would they be real teeth, or metal/iron sculptures of some kind?

If they are real, what creatures do Da Boyz get them from to be so uniform in size?

I personally always take them as squigoth teeth, but I suppose metal would look cool.

Or horns from defeated daemons that simply aren't hard enough. "So yeah, you korneys iz red, but we iz proper red..."

My first thought would be that they were metal. But "real" horns / big teeth also works.

That's one way to look at it With teef being a wealth and status symbol among Orks though, I see them as more akin to gold rims or a Cadillac badge on the grill of your GMC Yukon.

If you paint them as real then they need some battle damage, drill gunshots into them, if they are metal they need some dings too.

So many little things to paint on these..>I keep finding bits I didn't see before


Oh well, first brown ink wash will need to dry first. Not anywhere near finished with the basecoats yet.
I guess I'll use the drying time to go shovel out last night's fresh 8.5 inches of snow from the driveway before the temp drops down to Hoth levels again.

Helps when the wash brings things out

If I ever did an Ork army I would have to by a ton of those cheap wind up toys that walk and use them for the base of my kans. Then I'd have to learn how far they go per wind up so I could move them in the different phases.

Theo wants an interactive Hungry Hungry Hippos/40K board game crossover
Scratchbuilt Kans would be fun and rather easy to do I think. I would need to source some bigger plastic spheres for the shoulder sockets though.

I can do those spheres..... I have one the right size already.....

Dave I've got a bunch of 1" spheres , they might be 3/4" I'll measure when I wake up I the morning. I got some cheap toys at the thrift store and there were twelve in each pack.

Welcome to the Ork Bowl

Max, are you making your own? or are you using something cool you found? Theo- 3/4" or even 1" would be very useful to have no doubt, but a little big for Kans shoulders. 6mm pellets are good for weapon and elbow mounts, but shoulders need to be between 1/4" and 1/2" ideally.

If you got something to glue glass, then stop by dollar tree/family dollar/ dollar general. They have marbles or cheap, or to michaels or the local craft store in the floral department for the glass beads they use in floral arrangements.

CA would work, but the weight of glass would likely make the model top-heavy.

 dsteingass wrote:
CA would work, but the weight of glass would likely make the model top-heavy.

So your saying the Ork models might be unbalanced and prone to falling over or were you making the Pamela Orkerson model?

Silly Theo Orks are asexual and reproduce by fungal spores

Probably not much noticeable, but paint is still being slung. The arms need more variety of metallic colors.

looks very good already... specially the horns atm I find very good looking...is it wanted weathering there or just not touched up yet? if the former...then more that way...looks the part!

also...gotta ask, will the checkers get some black too or will they stay red yellow?...

I know they are fungus, but GW has even made female orks. But not having females may give good reasoning to why they are always angry

Painting looks great so far Dave. I'm always impressed how orks get such good coverage with their reds

Thanks Vik! No weathering yet. I'm still trying to get a good looking combo of base colors. The initial brown inking may be considered pre-weathering though I think these checkers will stay red/yellow, although I'll go over the yellow with a bit brighter shade before it's ready for chipping, etc.

Warhammer fantasy orks for bloodbowl had the ork cheerleaders showing that fantasy orks seemed to be like other beings on that world.

I recommend some tin bits drybrushed with some gold light for a brassy effect, and some copper colors like dwarven bronze

Look at the spores on that one...

Such beautiful work Warms my heart to see real models around here at last. (Mean orks BTW, no reference to anything else.)

I think the spheres he needs are smaller than that.....


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 dsteingass wrote:
Max, are you making your own? or are you using something cool you found? Theo- 3/4" or even 1" would be very useful to have no doubt, but a little big for Kans shoulders. 6mm pellets are good for weapon and elbow mounts, but shoulders need to be between 1/4" and 1/2" ideally.

No, found something cool for them. I will link it later.....

I am probably committing a crime just thinking about this on this thread, I have on many occasions looked longingly at my sons bionical's shoulders and hips! (nuff said, please do not excommunicate me) Also I have made a bunch of these sized Ball joints out of GS, as it is not critical that they are actually perfect sphere's.

I admit to having heretical thoughts regarding Bionicle joints myself

Nothing is safe from modeling conversion!

I could convince myself that Bionicle parts have limited LEGO compatibility and justify it...maybe ...ok maybe not.

They, are just fine for use in modeling, Dave....

But they are not necessary to be culled from the Lego modeling for other, heretical, purposes....


I will have a link for you shortly.....

dsteingass wrote: I admit to having heretical thoughts regarding Bionicle joints myself

I actually got me a nice auction via ebay full of replacement parts of bionicle stuff...so I don´t have to nick the kids stuff...will arrive shortly and it is cheap, next to unusable and mine^^...I actually have no remorse when it comes to bionicle... lets face it... lego did fugly with this range...

dsteingass wrote:Thanks Vik! No weathering yet. I'm still trying to get a good looking combo of base colors. The initial brown inking may be considered pre-weathering though I think these checkers will stay red/yellow, although I'll go over the yellow with a bit brighter shade before it's ready for chipping, etc.

I am again appearing a bit weak in faith...the stereotype black and white checkers would look better than a red and white checker pattern on a red kan... I think the model would benefit from a further color...

Agreed, Vik....


Big fan of the black and white checkers on red......

I think black, white and red and then of course blue, white and red are the best tri color schemes you could choose...

Ooh, hadnt thought of the blue....... that could be nice as well.....

But...I got yellow! yellow! Where do your old-ass eyes see red & White checks Vik!?
Good point, B&W is classic, but Will yellow look right with b&w checkers?

Speaking of blue..I've been admiring this little guy's color scheme lately with the black and boltgun metal thing going on.

The Blues CDs were just coincidentally sitting there on my desk. Billie might technically be Jazz Standards today, but that girl sang the blues.

Yes, i think b&w checkers would look ok with yellow


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But your the painter.


I absolutely dont claim to know what i am talking about...

Haha It's back down into the Hoth temperature range again today (-13F -25C), foiling even my new heating system. It's tolerable, but extended painting isn't very comfortable when the concrete floor is still cold.

That is cold, time for thro rugs

 shasolenzabi wrote:
That is cold, time for thro rugs

Wonder if I could borrow Nerdfest09's dogs for ear warmers. Seriously he has them doing other things like holding up a basket.

No rugs under my hobby/painting/desk trifecta, the chair doesn't roll so well on them The cold is only temporary.

 dsteingass wrote:
No rugs under my hobby/painting/desk trifecta, the chair doesn't roll so well on them The cold is only temporary.

Ah, so now we can call you "Ironman Dave"

I have been playing LEGO Marvel Superheroes a bit

if everything goes on like this iceman is more like it...

Does that make you Maverick Vik?

that would actually be my favourite choice to be honest... maverick was awesome...(for a second row character of course...we can´t all be wolvie or spidey...)

LOL
HULK SMAAAASH!

ok.... that alwas is fitting as a comment and would get you out of a tight corner, but why now?

Hulk like to smash?

lol... smashed potatoes?

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
lol... smashed potatoes?

With horseradish, sourcream, and cheese!!!!

no sausages ???...argh...

Ssssssshhhhhhhhhhh! Nick fury ( I mean Alpharius) might be watching and seeing us get off topic again

When was this thread on topic?

I think it was when Dave was typing the title for the thread, I could be wrong though.

Ice puns just aren't cool anymore Vik

I see... so we are back to cheesy land again then?

I don't know about you, Vik, but I'm all out of Llama cheese puns...

Ugh...no..just ..no

 Dr H wrote:
I don't know about you, Vik, but I'm all out of Llama cheese puns...

A Møøse once bit my sister

...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

A Møøse once bit my sister

...

So much lol. Love that bit.

Was it strawberry or chocolate?

One of the mani interesting furry animals yu mai see on a høliday in Sweden this yer.

Mynd you, moose bites Kan be pretti nasti...

Update for those of you interested: I have an appointment tomorrow morning with the Valve Seal plant regarding an offer! I've never been called into a meeting for an offer, it's always been offered over the phone. Anyone familiar with this practice?

If you're local I can understand it. My two professional jobs have been a) local and called in b) remote and over the phone - but it was mentioned that if I was local they'd have asked me to come in.

Hmmm. Well that makes sense, since they are not a mega-corporation I'm so used to working for.

 dsteingass wrote:
Hmmm. Well that makes sense, since they are not a mega-corporation I'm so used to working for.

Good luck!

I'm thinking that "Face to Face" puts more pressure on YOU during a negotiation though.

It is a lot easier to say - "I'm going to have to think about that." over the phone rather than in person.

Still, you know what you're worth (a lot, yes?) and you know what it will take for you to do the job as described, so - stick to your guns!

Unless you really need/want the job - in which case, don't jump too quickly!

Congrats Dave, the other reason why they might bring you in is that uring the interview they might have seen something in you that would be great for another position they have open. It's a lot easier to explain it in person, and possibly walk you around to that workspace to see if your comfortable with it as well.

 dsteingass wrote:
Hmmm. Well that makes sense, since they are not a mega-corporation I'm so used to working for.

For reference, the local one was a university (was a student worker at the time) and the remote one is a billion dollar corporation.

No, Teo..This is the ONLY position for me, It's IT. They said they have to "define" the position, meaning that I will have additional duties that relate to the production environment as well as the IT stuff. Things such as taking data from the production machines and getting them into a useful format they can use in a Database etc. With only 50+ employees, the IT is sort of part of the Job and the Production is the other part.

@Alph- I do really Want/need the job. How do you NOT jump?

Hopefully they won't try to lowball you on the offer you've already been given?

I'd just stick to what they've already said they'd provide...

I think it's great they want to talk, Is this the one you really wanted? Best of luck anyway. All sounds good.

Congrats, Dave. And good luck....

Good luck Dave!

Good luck mate

As if by magic...the monkeytroll appeared...

Just in time to usher Dave into a cubivle where he can change into the clothes of his new profession

Good luck Dave, hope it goes well mate!

No, I already have another offer incoming. This one is for the other job that I really want. The first offer is what is take if nothing else panned out. In war hammer terms, it's my reserve gig.


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And thanks everyone! Much appreciated!

Woohoo! Double congrats then

*chews nails* and? how was it? got the job?...be sure that I am crossing my fingers for you!!!! and no help from me here how to be the best you in a job interview...never had that much experience...yet...

It's still 6:00 AM here Vik! I'll know more in a few hours. It's a new position, built and defined around my skills. You have no idea how excited I am right now.

Good luck Dave. If it's built around you, then you have the power.

Well, I'll say it then...... WE TOLD YOU!! have a break we said, enjoy the time free we said, the perfect job will come to you we said.... and now we say!



..... Good luck my friend! :-)

Wait!

Did you already have the "Face to Face" meeting, or is that today?

Either way - best of luck, and I hope you get the job you want with the pay/benefits you want too!

Well..I got an offer! Not quite as high as I would have liked (but what is?) but I made $4000 more/year just by being silent a moment after their initial figure. So..yeah...I got the job! I may have been able to hold out for more, but I didn't. I shook hands

Nice. Play it cool. Congratulations.

WooHoo!! well done dude and congrats :-) that's awesome news for you and the Mrs! lets hope Bean doesn't miss you being around too much? she's only small so maybe you could 'Google workplace' her and sneak her in?

Many congrats mate. Won't be playing the blues tonight

This is - I'm not kidding - great news!

Congratulations!

Yes!!!!!
All the time you had the blues because you weren't working for money is now finally over! Once you know what will be what you will literally flood us with hobby mojo...*leans back in sweet anticipation...*

I hope everything will be as exiting and fulfilling as you described it...only downside...we ll miss all the funny swiss bashings

Thanks guys! Building your own job is pretty cool, I have to admit

Congratulations Dave

Did they spot the bit about lego-breaks you sneaked into the contract?

@monkeytroll Lol

Congrats again Dave, now get to building those plasticard ties to wear to work

Well done on the job front

Thanks a lot guys. NO TIES! Thankfully. Although I will probably need more Business Casual pants. I prefer cargo pants with pockets, maybe that will be ok.

Well cargo pants definitely allow you to smuggle in more modeling supplies to use everyday , but I guess you should play it nice fo a while at least.

Congratulations, and well done sir. Really Happy for you.

 Theophony wrote:
Well cargo pants definitely allow you to smuggle in more modeling supplies to use everyday , but I guess you should play it nice fo a while at least.

for a while....


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oh and dave... the part about the short silence... I will remember this if I ever get into a position to negotiate salary...

Congrats Dave! especially in this employer's market environment they have cooked up! Now to wish you luck on holding the job, that is the next phase.

No worries there unless the guy is super space marine fanboi that hates Legos and believes video games lead to violent behavior, in that case I wouldn't get your desk all nice and comfy.

Thanks guys! I don't think anyone there has ever heard of Space Marines, so I'm sure it'll be fine

Technically, this job didn't exist before, so yes, I am fortunate indeed!

Congrats, Dave. Now back to work......

Okay now for Dave to brave the chill and make an update

Well I definitely want to see the kans. And since a new job is on the horizon, once that starts we may get a bit where we don't get the true pleasure of the masters work....just while he settles in.....so give us some love here!! Please.

Hey, come on guys.....



He has a job now......


He may be busy.....

Exactly, job needs for the Dave to establish himself

I guess your right. Sorry Dave. Congratulations once more, and really happy that you are getting somewhere on the job side. I guess you have taken the dream job, and start fairly soon?

We will still be here patiently waiting for some Hobbits or an ork or two to pop our way.

In the mean time, whats your favorite biscuit for a cheese board? Mine is a digestive. I like the grittyness. Not keen on crackers though....

How can you not like crackers! you're crackers!! :-) Dave's probably out getting crackers now for us! and maybe some bikkies for you!

Flavored crackers are fine enough, put plain crackers need a good dollop of butter and a pound of cheese to make them interesting. Now a digestive has a nice robust flavor going on already.

I do love those salty-sweet hovis biscuits...

Thanks guys! I really appreciate the support. I'm really quite nervous actually, as I start first thing Tuesday morning. I'm not sure if "digestives" are a thing here in the US. If they are, I hae no idea what the difference is between them and crackers.

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Digestives are semi-sweet biscuits, good with sweet or savoury stuff. Probably cookies of some description over your side of the pond

Not sure what my favourite would be, I'm a big fan of the Hovis, but like a cracker too, guess it depends on the cheese....so for a cheese board I'd require a selection of biscuits

You'll be fine Dave, it's a job based on your skill-set, once you settle everything will be hunky-dory

Ahh Thanks. For some reason, I'm a nervous wreck. I start bright and early tomorrow morning. I should be confident, but I have that gut-wrenching feeling like I did when I was in middle school. Dreading going to school the next day.

You will be fine. Honest.

Its just the time out of work once you get to the interview it will be fine, plus they say nerves can help with interviews apparently

Perfectly normal for starting a new job dude. Don't sweat it, you'll be fine

I thought he's moved past the 'interview' stage to the actual "start the job tomorrow" stage though?

Either way - everything will be fine, it is just the normal pre-new job 'nerves' thing!

Yeah, he's starting work.....ldd just looks at the pretty pictures, tends to skim read the text and just gets the geneeral gist of the coversation

Relax mate, ease the stress, put your feet up and read about GI Joe...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26196760

 dsteingass wrote:
Ahh Thanks. For some reason, I'm a nervous wreck. I start bright and early tomorrow morning. I should be confident, but I have that gut-wrenching feeling like I did when I was in middle school. Dreading going to school the next day.

You'll be fine, good luck and have fun.

Well hows it going! Went brilliant right, told you so.

So is dakkadakka work blocked?

 monkeytroll wrote:
Yeah, he's starting work.....ldd just looks at the pretty pictures, tends to skim read the text and just gets the geneeral gist of the coversation

Yep did it again miss read the text well stop stressing and get to work like the rest of us now you really have something to moan about now

DAVE DUDE>>>>>COME ON.

How did it go?

Will the RL curse now afflict this Blog?

Expect each new post from Dave to start "Sorry for lack of updates, been busy at work..."

Thanks guys! It's a definite change. But slow so far.

Yay!!
First day didn't kill him

I'm not busy at all. I'm a new salaried it guy without a Pc or accounts to do anything with.

He lives!

Cool, at least you seem to be over the jitters.

No..not really. My gut is overwhelmingly telling me that I don't belong here. I still have the other job offer in my back pocket if all else fails.

hmm.... I can relate to that gut feeling, but since this is not only a new position for you but the company as well it is quite obvious that you will feel like a rectangle in a circular opening...(probably horrible figure of speech here...) I guess when the infrastructure you need is all there, then the feeling of oddness will cease...so clench your teeth, start coffeybreaks with your new fellow employees and mingle with the bosses secretary and then all will fall into place! I will cross my fingers for you!

It's not all that simple really. The Drive is 26 miles one way, it takes about 40+ minutes to get to and from. The town is really a backwoods, both in terms of intellectual capacity and teeth. There is nobody there that I can really get along with on a personal level, and the job is more of a Database Administrator and programmer role than was advertised. I am a desktop/server/network/infrastructure guy by discipline. I can certainly learn those disciplines, but I won't be happy doing it. If I'm not happy after 2 days, why would I be after 2 months or years?

I see your point but it will pay the bills for now, like you said you have the other job to fall back on give it a week see if you feel any different if not jump ship.

It is all very well working but it can be just as bad if not worst in a job you hate believe me, plus if the environment aint working for you either it will not play well with your health.

Sounds like it was a job not as promised.

No, not at all as promised. I think it would be best to cut the relationship off sooner rather than later though, before either party has too much invested.

 dsteingass wrote:
No, not at all as promised. I think it would be best to cut the relationship off sooner rather than later though, before either party has too much invested.

Definitely the best way to go - especially if it was not 'as advertised'.

Is the other job still an option?

And how does it compare in terms of travel and responsibility and compensation?

Best of luck!

One thing I can categorically say about work is, happiness is more important than money and benefits. I have been through it recently myself, and have to say I am happier now getting less money and in a completely different field, but much happier environment. Look at my work rate on Dakka since I changed just at the new year. Much better. I can't say whether you should quit tomorrow, but I will say personally, I would rather let people know.

Yeah, if it is still not feeling right by that 1st check, then flee

Have you thawed out yet boss?


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Hows the job etc?

The personal cost of an unpleasant workplace far outweighs any material gain in the long run. Take care of yourself.

Also, subbed. I'm hunting you terrain guys down one by one.

 Red Harvest wrote:
The personal cost of an unpleasant workplace far outweighs any material gain in the long run. Take care of yourself.

Also, subbed. I'm hunting you terrain guys down one by one.

The league is a pretty good place to start at that.

Actually, I start the OTHER job monday 12 hour days 3.5 days a week, which means I'll have a 3.5 day weekend every week.

Congrats on the new better shiney job dave.

Sounds like what i was doing for the last 5 years! 10.5 hour days 3 days a week, one 8.5 and 3 days off :-)

you sound happier already dude! really it comes out in your posts lol! well done mate I'm sure you've made the right choice for you!

dsteingass wrote:Actually, I start the OTHER job monday 12 hour days 3.5 days a week, which means I'll have a 3.5 day weekend every week.

Kudos on the time intensive on and off job man.

Theophony wrote:Congrats on the new better shiney job dave.

What he said

nerdfest09 wrote:Sounds like what i was doing for the last 5 years! 10.5 hour days 3 days a week, one 8.5 and 3 days off :-)

you sound happier already dude! really it comes out in your posts lol! well done mate I'm sure you've made the right choice for you!

Hopefully this will result in more pics of awesome miniature stuff.

Glad to hear it. Best wishes in the new new job.

Now get some models done, we need some Dave goodies.

Good luck with the new, new job More time off is always good

Well done for landing on your feet nice working week as well

Good luck today.

I will cross my fingers for a good new start for you

 dsteingass wrote:
Actually, I start the OTHER job monday 12 hour days 3.5 days a week, which means I'll have a 3.5 day weekend every week.

Wow, 12 hour days?
I wish you best fo luck, and hopefully you won't need the extra weekened days to recover
But 3.5 day weekends, DO sound tempting

Awesome news. 3.5 day weekends sounds great, better than my 1 day ones.

So how did day 1 go? Hope it was great.

The first day might still be going on...after all he has some murder shifts to see through...

It was great. First days are always full of things you don't know, and I always expect more from myself than they do on the first day. I didn't have all my access set up for half of the day. Not much time between for much but sleep, but It's nothing I didn't experience daily in college

As for the hobby front, once I get settled in and on a work routine, I'll have time. My first project though will be to redo my workshop lighting around my hobby and painting benches. I was using a cheap electrical adapter (with a really good server rack power strip) that failed and need to fix that. (could've caused a fire if I hadn't caught it in time)

Hey dude! glad you obviously have a better day at the new job! :-) you certainly deserve it after the wait which was worth it so it seems!

get your new job settled and then you'll enjoy the modeling much more, we just want to know you're doing o.k !

Oh, and I got the model from you the other week and assembled him but it's taking all my self control not to paint him yet!

Well i am glad that it went well and you have not been burnt to a crisp.

Enlightenment without safety precautions...we had that...was called the middleage

Good to hear good news from you, it's oozing through the lines already how you feel about the new job situation. Which is actually the same relief for us as it is probably for you seeing you back in good spirits!

I'm glad you sound so much more optimistic aboutthis job than the other. How did the other employer handle it? Hopefully not to gripey.

I am very happy for you. That's great news you sound so much more WAAAAAGH! Much better.

Good to hear things are on the up for you Dave.

and that your house didn't burn down.

We're happy that you're happier and not crispier

 Dr H wrote:
Good to hear things are on the up for you Dave.

and that your house didn't burn down.

I think lady geek would have been bitter if dave tried some 1:1 scale battle bam age on the house.

First 40 hr. week is now done. Soo much to learn! And yes, I'll need to get used to the schedule, but now I'm starting my long weekend as well

Yay for long weekends

I found out that with the 12 hour days, there isn't much you can do besides eat and sleep

I have done 12 hour shifts before, yes when you are working its work rest and work, but now you get the bonus, after a kip you will be bang on for 3 days off. Sweet. I am really glad for you.

 dsteingass wrote:
I found out that with the 12 hour days, there isn't much you can do besides eat and sleep

AAAAAAAAAAAAnd that was my first six months in the army.....



Damn glad to hear you planning your return.....

Yeah, 12 hour shifts are only surpassed in taking up an entire day by split shifts, such as 9-6, 3-12. I've done both in a pub and done nothing else with my time at the time.

Didn't get long weekends in the pub trade though (didn't get weekends at all). Good to hear things are going well. Enjoy your weekend.

 dsteingass wrote:
I found out that with the 12 hour days, there isn't much you can do besides eat and sleep

Yep thats about all you can do well that and take a dump, I also found my first day off I spent half the day in the bed at least, well at least you have 4 days of creativity ahead and the funds to source it

 lone dirty dog wrote:

 dsteingass wrote:
I found out that with the 12 hour days, there isn't much you can do besides eat and sleep

Yep thats about all you can do well that and take a dump, I also found my first day off I spent half the day in the bed at least, well at least you have 4 days of creativity ahead and the funds to source it

Stay classy LDD!

Will do

So.....the new PLASTIC FETHING STORMTROOPERS have me a bit excited I have to admit. The Taurox needs Zinge front wheels and a scratchbuilt front axle no doubt. The question is...should it be a typical front axle with crossbar, or a modern LAV-type independant drive/suspension thing?

Independant suspension, it is an off-roader.

Nice to see you.

Yeah, convert the hell outta that thing so we can steal your ideas.

Everyone on the entire internet hates the front treads on that thing universally. I don't get it. There's no way that was a good idea. Otherwise it looks like the kit has a lot of potential.

I know we don't care if GW stuff would really work...but theoretically, would independant front suspension work with the fixed rear treads of a halftrack?

I would go indy myself, but then I would convert the heck out of it for Orksess.

I'm thinking the front fenders may need cut off and remade to fit the wheels though. Not sure until I see them together in person. GW's site has a good detailed pic of the sprue from the bottom of the chassis. It appears that there is plenty of room down there to do stuff....fairly flat.


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Also, I don't think the Militarum Tempestus codex is replacing the entire Imperial Guard. I think the Internet has it all wrong here.

Why do I think that?
Well the Codex is
1. Only 72 pages
2. an online-only exclusive
3. and the descripton says this:
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Codex: Militarum TempestusFor the first time, the Scions of the Schola Progenium grace the pages of their very own Codex - exclusively available here!

The Ordo Tempestus commands the finest human soldiers in the galaxy. It’s disciplined ranks boast not only the elite Scions of the Militarum Tempestus but also brutal Commissars.

Within the 72 pages of this hardback, full-colour book you will find:

- A definitive guide to the Militarum Tempestus, including the structures of the Officio Prefectus and a record of many of the legendary deeds enacted by this brotherhood of warriors.
- The story of how Scions and Commissars are trained by the Schola Progenium to best the best human warriors.
- A stunning showcase of the Ordo Tempestus Citadel miniatures, presenting the uniforms, regimental names and insignias of the Imperium’s elite.
- A full description of each unit, the rules for its use, and an army list that enables you to organise and collect an army worthy of the most discerning Lord Commissar.

So these are Guard Officer orphans, raised in the Scola Progenium, i.e. Storm Troopers and Commissars. This isn't replacing the regular fluff of raising Guard Regiments.

I seriously dislike the Taurox. It is the ugliest and most illogical vehicle I've ever seen GW put out. It looks like a cheap knock off designed by someone who does not know how vehicles work.

I like the cab and hood parts. I think It can make a lovely truck or halftrack.

I'm likely going to purchase some bits of this kit from ebay for use or potential use in some orky what not, but as a kit overall it just looks like garbage to me.

Like most peeps I think it has great potential for orkses

Rip of the front fenders, extend the rear tracks a little and stick some suspension in for the front wheels Dave


Didn't think the internet thought Tempestus was a replacement for IG - it's a stormtrooper supplement with Astra Militarium (or whatever) replacing IG......

It means if you want to use Stormtroopers and Commissars in your IG Army, you have to buy two codexes.

 dsteingass wrote:
I like the cab and hood parts.

Yes, agreed. Don't really like the rest of it though.

I think It can make a lovely truck or halftrack.

I look forward to this being done.
But do something to the track units that you do use. Or even better use different ones.
The details on the side, I know are there to match the other army-formally-known-as-IG vehicles, and that's fine.
It's the overall shape of the units I don't like. I think it's mainly the angle (or lack thereof) of the front and rear that makes them too square. They are also too tall by themselves.

And the way these are attached to the vehicle... Individual tracks like this, as far as I know, are used to give them the ability to move independently and rotate on their axles to aid in crossing rough terrain. It's even described as being good for all terrain. So why does it not have any suspension travel The ride in that thing would be hideous with the square tracks bumping up and over every little lump in the terrain...

The turret and weapon positioning could also be better...

And then the worst part, for me, is the painted examples... the ones shown on the GW website... where they hope to attract customers to buy one or 12... where they should be being shown off in the best light, with the best paint job etc... seem to be warped and bent....
If the official examples are not cast right, I don't have much hope of buying one that's straight. I'll build my own thanks GW.

It's a shame really

Here endeth my opinion.

If you wanted to make an armored truck like transport companies use for moving money around, that kit would contain some useful stuff.

Poorly painted for a poster model, badly lined and sloppily dry-brushed. Poorly assembled, the hatch, you can see where it was cut from the sprue and too much was cut. You can see a seam line on the turret. Et cetera. Amateurish.

The people at GW have no clue about what tracks are for. Nor any clue about good vehicle design anymore. Turn it all over to ForgeWorld, I say.

If Catbus was an ill conceived tank... Hmm. Back corner looks like a shoddy cast too. I would probably like it more with wheels up front. Turret looks too conventionally SM in its aesthetic to my eyes. A swing and a Miss...

The Taurox is actually based on the Morris Quad tractor an ugly brutish WW2 gun tractor. With wheels it would look alright without I don't like it.

Where I have all the confidence in the world for your skills dave, ...........this thing may take all your ninja modeling skills to make look good .

Also I heard that the thing has grav plates underneath it to help it move swiftly across the battlefield. That made me wonder why? We're they trying to explain that its a half-grav vehicle? Next they will have an upgrade sprue to make this into a hovercraft and call it the water buffalox .

Either way excited to see dave back in the modeling saddle.

I can't wait to see what you do dude! that kit is seriously uglyyyyyyy!! all I can see is Ork Truck and hideous tracks! :-(

 nerdfest09 wrote:
I can't wait to see what you do dude! that kit is seriously uglyyyyyyy!! all I can see is Ork Truck and hideous tracks! :-(

I think the imperium is stuck with it because the orks have class.

Orks wouldn't even loot this thing - it's drop dead ugly

I know a lot of the like was said with the latest GW flyer and now everybody has one, there are some nice conversions to it too.

The Knights...bleh...not what I would've designed for sure

But this...I mean the warthog (A-10) is stylishly ugly - it means business, but this thing here?
Drop dead ugly...
I wouldn't even know where to start kitbashing this thing...I would have to find a good looking part first

 Theophony wrote:

 nerdfest09 wrote:
I can't wait to see what you do dude! that kit is seriously uglyyyyyyy!! all I can see is Ork Truck and hideous tracks! :-(

I think the imperium is stuck with it because the orks have class.

pretty much... It just looks BAD as a whole kit. as a source of components to bash into other things it has some promise I think...

No one's said "this will probably be wheely good"?
I'm proud of you guys.

I might buy one just because it's been YEARS since there has been a new Guard vehicle. I still need to fix my shop power and lights.


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Rumor has it that next week they will be releasing a Plastic Hydra Kit.

Given the rumors about a new guard codex, I suspect there may be more 'new' vehicles coming. One of them may not be ugly, so you may want to hold off on getting that taurox.

If you want an armored truck, how about basing something off the land rover? I think we've seen that can make for a nice project

Taurox at the GW site it has a bank vault door for the back entry/exit
My Orks might make something of it, but I can scratch a better battlewagon than that Taurox

The hydra looks sexy from the pics I've seen. The rumors still hadn't found out if there is a second build to it or not. I think hydra/basilisk as the new hydra is an open top with crew compartment similar to old basi kit.

Could have also tossed the medusa in there for a cheap triple kit if that's the case. Unless it already exists somewhere, I've no idea.

Although they then could just come up with some new vehicle which plays off of it easy and is more infantry horde focused. Or just have it standalone, which is pretty unlikely.

Wasn't there a new tank that is going to split with the Hydra - a Wyvern?

Yeah the Wyvern..It has quad mortar-looking guns..which is impressive. Mortars are a Guard General's friend.

I always wondered if a scratch built contest should have a build a taurox as you imagine it theme to it... well...I guess many will do that anyway, eh?^^...

just saw the news thread, again... apart from the hopefully multi part kit of the ogryns nothing strikes me as a must have...well I would like me some bitz of the new stormtroopers for conversions... but probably not the whole kit... the torsos are not really my thing...even if I use empire kits I will probably get the same look for less money?

Wyvern=chimera with Thudd-guns

Vik, the hotshot lasguns need packs and cables, but anyone with skills can do that. Only 5 toros, 5 legs, 10 heads

Makes 5 man units, and leaves so much bits left over. I have a lot of defiance games legs left over that decent Torso(Mad robot???) I could use the heads and spare weapons with. But that can get to be an odd army.

vik, maybe the next comp should be build a better/cheaper taurox from a dollar store toy truck.

I hadn't kept up on the imperial guard (i will not learn the new name as i am old and curmudgingly) rumors the last two weeks, too busy. But I might be back soon enough.

That's fair, I haven't bothered keeping up with the constrant diahhreah stream of Marine releases for the past year or two


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I haven't bought anything yet. You guys are right..it's a pretty ugly kit...I just want it to be a half-track too badly.

well conversions are essential for IG...so i bet that´s what we´ll soon see aplenty^^...

and it is funny, although i look and search through dollar stores lile crazy, i never found that really fitting toy scalewise there... must be our funny metric system that doesn´t even let chineese produce something for us we can use

I think the real challenge would be who can make the duckling into a swan.

 Camkierhi wrote:
I think the real challenge would be who can make the duckling into a swan.

Stick of dynamite. Afterwards you can't tell if it was a duckling or a swan.

Dave, how about another gijoe jeep turned half track, you could make a dozen for the same price.

The thing i don't like about the taurox is that the tracks are useless, the angle is so steep it would never get itself out of a ditch.

 Theophony wrote:
vik, maybe the next comp should be build a better/cheaper taurox from a dollar store toy truck.

I hadn't kept up on the imperial guard (i will not learn the new name as i am old and curmudgingly) rumors the last two weeks, too busy. But I might be back soon enough.

We call ourselves Grognards, good sir. And do so proudly.

Taurox, what a name Sounds like a cleaning product.

If you want a half track or other light APC like this, I would start with the MRAP or one of its variants. Way cooler than this thing.

Cleaner...for me it sounds like a pokemon...and I have usually no idea for this

Inspiration...

No..those tread systems make sense


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 Red Harvest wrote:
Given the rumors about a new guard codex, I suspect there may be more 'new' vehicles coming. One of them may not be ugly, so you may want to hold off on getting that taurox.

If you want an armored truck, how about basing something off the land rover? I think we've seen that can make for a nice project

I think this is still the best idea yet! That Rover was an excellent project.

I have some paperkura templates of a hummer if someone is interested...just saying...

Oh wow - that bug half-track is sublime!

Dave save your money and just make tracks for these



Working doors/ramps/rolling rubber tires/ and plastic tinted to look like bulletproof glass for the windows.

You're a braver man than me.

When I first saw it I was starting to think along the same lines as you, that it may be save-able.

Then I saw the gun fenders ...

I dunno Theo..that thing is cool and all, but it looks oversized, and I don't like the wheels...or the rear-view mirrors. It looks more like the ride that someone like Inquisitor Eisenhorn would use than Guard.

I've been toying with h idea of doing a necromunda genestealer cult. This would be a rocking purple limo for them. I plan on removing he rear view mirrors and just putting on some pimp like diplomatic flags or something along those lines. If I don't do genestealers then definitely arbites .

with the DF stuff arnites is a good idea anyway... tho if I had a zillion of these minis I probably convert them all to clone warriors for star wars for my kids

Man, I really like the Eisenkern APC - as soon as that goes retail in the UK, I'm on it. Rear view mirrors will be removed though

As for the troopers, they should be painted gloss black and fight alongside a skeleton warlord against a sci-fi barbarian with a huge sword

I fixed my electrical problems! I thought I'd have to go through the pain in theass of new outlets and such, but they still sell 2 prong replacement plugs. so the lights and air compressor are back in action!

Good to hear, Dave.
How is the job coming along, settled in?

Ach, poor robin...

Yeah not bad, putting in my time, paying my dues...a month down so far. I'm just switching to the weekend rotation this week. Still 3 days off in a row, just on M-W this time around.


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This was what could have burned my house down

Nice weathering on the plug!

Lucky boy.

Sorted at last. Looking forward to seeing you return to full masterhood.

Job; Good good.

Plug; I see how that could be a problem.

Bad plug, naughty!

Glad to hear you're settling in ok at work, looking forward to you re-starting your Adventure.....

Damn, that looks like it could have been major trouble, Dave. Glad you ducked that bullet!

I intend to buy one (1) Taurox for converting purposes. I will buy one of the WGF Halftracks to add to be collection of optional sci-fi vehicles, and test to see how easy it is to convert to 40K models.

--B.

Ouch. Now please tell me you have also checked the outlet. I had a friend who when he moved into a new place, discovered that the previous owner had done some wiring of his own in the basement. Almost melted the casing completely from a plug.

Good dodge of the fire bullet replacing plug Dave +5 to ingenuity!

As always the hotshot round missed its mark , that's why the redemptionists are still rebel scum and not the religious leaders of 40k.

I've been checking the new plug all day, cool as a cucumber. It was on one of those junk 6 outlet extender things before. now that circuit is dedicated only to the lights and airbrush compressor, and on a 6 foot server rack power strip. Heavy duty stuff.

I know my house needs electrical work, its 70+ years old, it needs updating on everything . Now lets see some modeling

Hear, hear, hear...

Glad to see this thread is still going places.

And my two cents, they'll always be IG to me too. I do want some of those plastic stormies, though. Not the Taurox, but the guys. They look pretty good to me.

Let's take a look at a product for a change shall we?

Wolsong Laser-etched MDF XIX Century Walls from Micro Art Studio

In each package you get one sheet of each of these


A little bit of cutting tabs and popping out and you get these parts

The wall supports are built like this


The idea is to build the walls by sandwiching two of the support frames with one of the poured concrete parts.

However, to better match some of the factory Walls in Fallout 3 and New Vegas, I'm thinking of using the supports over a brick inner wall. I dunno yet. It would essentially double the walls you get from one kit too.
As with all MAS laser-etched kits, you'll want to save the little punch-out bitz for excellent brick rubble.

Some of the first demo pics of the walls showed it with brick inner walls, not sure why they went with the poured concrete look in the end


Despite the name "XIX Century Steampunk" these walls appeal to me for either the Dieselpunk/Atomicpunk world of Fallout or even 40K (Despite some of my readers brainwashed misgivings about bricks in 40k )

Very interesting terrain dave. I can totally see how this could become necromunda terrain. Lots of possibilities in there.

Nice looking stuff. Only trouble I can see would be texture. MDF is very smooth. The concrete panels could do with roughing up. Maybe rough sanding?

Whats the price like? Availability internationally?

Oh and good to see you back.

That's what the airbrush and creative edge highlighting is for Cam But I see the texture thing may be why they went with the poured concrete thing in the end. Those bricks look like plasticard to me.

MAS is generally UK only, I found two of these on ebay ($17+free shipping) just to try them out. If it works, I may order more.
These other building kits are also out

but without the cool windows. No sign of the upper structures on these walls yet.
http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/wolsung-miniatures-c-61.html

They make spray texture for interior walls. Might be a little "big" but you could use that to get some texture, then paint it.

Naa, not worried about that, I can fake texture with paint no problem. If anything, a little fine sand for real texture.

Hmm, I do like the fact that you can double up by only using those supports on one side...damn...I was trying to avoid picking up any terrain this weekend

Now why would you try to avoid that Monkey?

Umm...because I've barely touched the pile of terrain I picked up at last year's Salute (plus the stacks bought since ), and I want to try and get some actual minis finished for a change?

That's just nonsense. you have to have it on-hand in order to be the most effective terrain kitbasher
Hoard now..so you can build on one of those common rainy days in the UK!

Hoarding:easier when they reproduce themselves

Sprues don't reproduce when left in darkened conditions

Don't tell my wife that! That's the only thing that lets me keep buying minis!

Monkey, can you get us pictures of Zinge's new buggy while you're there? Kit thinks he's clever with his teaser pics.


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Options

It's on my to-do list Once I've made sure I've picked up a bunch of his stuff anyway....


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Instant impression is I prefer the top version..........

Top version. Fo sho.

Bigger's always better.....well for terrain anyways , so I vote the top one as well.

Oh and piles of sprues are better bigger, though the bill attached to them is lays better smaller

Top version for 40k, future setting, bottom more Fallout esc, maybe.

Ach...wolsung stuff...that is the strong stuff....I love their...er...range
My vote is cor a general feel on the top version, tho I like the lower one as cam put it, it looks very convincing...and will be amazing when weathered...

Thanks Fellas..I'm feeling the top one too, although it does remind me of the smooth block walls you see in NYC Subways and public bathrooms.

Great to see back in the swing!

(Top one too, BTW)

Against the grain I prefer the smaller bricks dude! not sure why but I just like the image more!?

 nerdfest09 wrote:
Against the grain I prefer the smaller bricks dude! not sure why but I just like the image more!?

It's because your in the wrong hemisphere. A mixture of all the bad air sinking to the bottom half if the globe, all the poisonous critters your attacked by on an hourly basis and the fact your a marsupial who spent to much time in the pouch. You can tell its bad when you start stacking strange items that are within reach upon fuzzy animals. The animals placate you because they understand "it's not your fault, it's nearly where you live"

Dave can we get a shot of the two with a figure next to it for scale? I know I voted already, but just on the odd chance nerdfest is right.

Sure...

I still vote for the top one as it feels more industrial (cinderblock) sized than the bottom which is more residential sized. I guess though it would really matter more what color you would paint it. If you go reds then the second version, if you go grey then I'd go with the first version.

Thanks for the pic dave

Well, My workweek starts in a couple of hours. I'll stop by the Hobby Shop next monday and see if they have any other brick options too. Either way, I'll need to procure several sheets more than I have.

Do you know what scale those are that you have? You could always use the back of the sheets and make a mold out of it like I did with my sewer section walls. Mix up some dental stone and you'll have some hearty walls soon.....or just buy more plastic crack

Probably both O scale. I dunno, I threw the plastic bags with labels away a long time ago.

 dsteingass wrote:
Probably both O scale. I dunno, I threw the plastic bags with labels away a long time ago.

ach thats life
Feels odd, eh when you know you're about to get chained to the desk at work for the next few days...I guess sometimes it is like starting to work there for the first time again and again...

Dave, did I miss how much this pack of terrain cost?

Ooo...
I think the larger bricks as they have a more industrial feel, to me, that matches the metal supports.

Look forward to it, whatever bricks it ends up with.

 Briancj wrote:
Dave, did I miss how much this pack of terrain cost?

I think dave got his off eBay, but here's the web store http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/xix-century-walls-p-1006.html

I paid $17 with free shipping from ebay. The Shipping from Poland is usually expensive anyways.

The plasticard beicks with the bracing wall kit reminded me of The Pitt DLC Dave.

AH well then, after seeing those new pics I must re-vote.....



...... Still the smaller bricks for me.....


...Now excuse me while i try and find something to stack on my dog...

 Theophony wrote:
I still vote for the top one as it feels more industrial (cinderblock) sized than the bottom which is more residential sized. I guess though it would really matter more what color you would paint it. If you go reds then the second version, if you go grey then I'd go with the first version.

Thanks for the pic dave

Exactly this.
Although I think residential-style bricks with those metal supports doesn't make much sense.

It doesnt have to make sense, it just needs to look cool.

They both look cool. Wonder what steel riveted sheets would look like? I'm with Nerdy bottom one.

 dsteingass wrote:
It doesnt have to make sense, it just needs to look cool.

 dsteingass wrote:
It doesnt have to make sense, it just needs to look cool.

Well I guess it also depends on who they are bricking in behind there too.

Glass bricks would be pretty cool with brushed steel supprots........

Glass bricks are so eighties...

Like...gag me with a spoon! Do you mean like walk-in-shower bricks?

I was just wanting to see you clear casting scale bricks.....


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and quick paste from my phone.....

Monkey got the buggy!

That's a sweet buggy!

Thanks Monkey!

Oh, and Bols had a spot today of the first wheeled Taurox using the wheels from a German 88

Still ridiculously high target, but does look way better with wheels added, double fenders are a tad bit redundant though

The buggy looks cool, completely modular construction, roll-bars are separate components with no mould lines, loads of additinal goodies, but it's probably at least a month till it's out. Kit also had a Taurox out with six of his wheels on, looked a damn sight better than the tracked

I consider the Taurox one of those items GW designers rushed and goofed on