So does anyone have any good stories about an opponent completely raging at losing a game? Or perhaps stories of particularly bad sports in general. Any incidents with a 40k, fantasy or other system battles? Would be interesting to hear people's experiences with this issue

I nearly got clocked by an old (metal) dreadnought once.

My main regular opponent was my best friend at the time, and he was prone to outbursts if things went particularly badly (IIRC he rolled three jams on the sustained fire dice on the assault cannon, and the resulting explosion killed the dread, but not 100% sure! it was near 20 years ago)

It wasn't, strictly speaking, thrown AT me, but I was sure as hell in the way of its trajectory until I threw myself off my chair and into the floor, it left a substantial dent in the wall!

I had a mate slam his hand down on a table once in frustration onto a square of Goblin Spearmen...priceless...he never did that again...

I slammed my hand down on the table once recently when a lost a mycetic spore pod and a whole squad of warriors to a single battlecannon round, I spilled my beer all over my Zuzzy mat and had to frantically move everything else out of the way! That's where I broke that habit and also, leaving beers in play during a game!

Lol, I've rage quit before. Whatever.

I had just teleported in some Termies, they get shot with 1 assault Cannon. All wounds, no rending, taking a big fat 2+...

All ones!

Oh well, lucky to even get em on the board they scattered so bad. Put em on the the table, take em back off the table.

Roll my bikes up same turn, gonna scoot all the way across the board and grab an objective and probably win.

Nope. All 7 guys get shot to death by bolters next turn. They didn't even blink. Put em on the table, take em back off the table.

Well maaaaaybe this old rusty Rhino can get her squad in to contest? Nope, screw you. One HK Missile from way back is going to pop that Rhino and wound half the squad. They all fail their armour saves and the rest of them proceed to run away. Right off the table!

I'm sorry but I'm allowed to be angry at my own ridiculous luck.

edit: Haven't chucked anything yet or smashed anything haha! I don't like to get angry over a game, but it's pretty damned hard not too when they cost so much and you devote so much time to them. I mean, I STILL have Berzerkers to finish painting! It's very disappointing when you just get worked really badly.

But what about poor winners? I hate it when someone cheers a bad roll, that just seems really shoddy to do. I mean yeah, if you roll bad that's good for your opponent, but it's still a bad roll. I just think an "aww that sucks mate, I just melted that guy!" is a lot better than some kind of Han Solo whoop...

I roasted 4 helldrakes as they came on the board a few weeks ago. The story goes; I was told to bring at triptide list all with HBC, interceptor, and skyfire, for the succinct purpose of griefing a particular player. Now I own the 3 riptide models only for highly competitive use. I won't bring them unless requested because, well duh.
The story goes, my opponent was already hot because his drakes didn't come in on turn two. so thinking he had my troops all but crispy when they all came in on three, he was rudely surprised by the rending rule on the HBC. It didn't help that we had onlookers, but when only one of the four survived with a single remaining hp he started muttering about "cheesy bullshite tau this spam that" as he started grabbing his models off the table. Nobody said a word to him as he left. But we think he knew someone had conspired against him. I was merely the sharpest tool in the shed for this particular job.

We haven't seen him since.

I've seen too many grown men take their toy soldiers way too seriously. It's always a little pathetic to see grown men throw temper tantrums. I get enough sportsmanship issues at home with my son - but he's six, so at least he has an excuse.

I try to only game with people i know now to reduce the chance of a rage quitter.


EDIT: Hmm, that came off way more pompous than i meant it to ! What i meant is that i try to only game with people i've interacted with a little bit, even if just a good conversation, etc. I tend to go to my LGS with a pack of friends so we have built in opponents, so its rare i'm hanging out in the shop looking for someone to get a game in against anyhow.

Can't say I've ever raged, never mind violent towards another player. At worst, I start to sulk when a game becomes unenjoyable (e.g. losing half my army on Turn 1 to Marbo and IG shooting).

My Xbox controllers on the other hand...

I was playing "Johnny Reb" with my ol' friend Dennis (God rest his soul), I rolled the flank of his union army with a conferate cavalry charge (in column). I should have totally been destroyed, but he folded.

I remember him cursing me to Dagon and literally jumping up and down in rage... a great memory.

- J

i knew a guy used the following list. he went for three stright months without losing, then finally loses to a SOB army and claims that the SOB player was using unfair rules and that SOB were broken and had a ton of cheesy units. he did not see the irony in what he just said.

this was the list he was using IIRC
Imotek the Stormlord
Retinue: 1 Chronometron Cryptek

Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors
Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek

Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe

Imperial Bastion w/ Comms Relay

One time I raged so hard I snapped the table in half and left to break an orphanage with my bare hands. Then I ate all the orphans. The cause was that I lost a single assault marine as a lone casualty.

 OnlyWar wrote:
i knew a guy used the following list. he went for three stright months without losing, then finally loses to a SOB army and claims that the SOB player was using unfair rules and that SOB were broken and had a ton of cheesy units. he did not see the irony in what he just said.

this was the list he was using IIRC
Imotek the Stormlord
Retinue: 1 Chronometron Cryptek

Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors
Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek

Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe

Imperial Bastion w/ Comms Relay

I've seen this army list before! He copied it off 1d4chan!

When I was but a wee sprout, I beat a significantly older opponent at a CCG, using a deck composed of nothing but commons and uncommons. I seriously thought he was going to hit me, but another player got all barrel-chested on him and he settled down.

We had a particularly unhinged member of the gaming group back during the early days of 3rd.

We always played at his house as he was the only one with a dedicated war room.

One particular time after winning a war in which his Dark Angels commander killed a Bloodthirster in melee his opponent mentioned how stupid it was that the Bloodthirster had a lower initiative than the Space Marine, being an incarnation of the blood god etc.

They argued back and forth a while to our combined amusement when suddenly our Dark Angel obsessed fellow tore his own glasses off and broke them in half and promptly punched a hole in the wall of the war room (as mentioned this was his house thankfully)

Definitely haven't seen anything on that scale of nerd-raging since.

There is nothing more tragic/pathetic than seeing a grown man having a tantrum over toy soldiers. Its not something that I have seen all that much of however.

I have seen a spoilt little kid throw a metal dreadnaught across a GW before though.

Lol, wow...

Yeah I've never done anything quite half as bad as any of that, not anything you'd call a "tantrum"...

But they do piss me off sometimes, silly plastic toys! But I've only ever given up in disgust once, and that was the rollin all ones scenario. Had my fair share of turn 4-5 wow I lose because you killed everyone 'cept this half a squad type surrenders though! Like the time I spent two weeks trying to even dent my friends Tau list with my meagre CSM force, there was a few unconditional surrenders there. Finally beat him after 4 or 5 games...

I forfeited a game once because I was using epicroster for my list and it didn't save properly. We left the game overnight and when we came back to it I had no list, evrything was proxied so I was like "Meh, you win, start over?"

edit: Speaking of CCGs though I once had someone throw their entire hand at me playing MTG. Turns out people really really hate black discard decks...

I have worse rage fits playing video games than I do with tabletop games. Mainly due to the fact in a public area if you’re going to have a fit be sure you’re not some 5’ 4” pipsqueak (at the time) raging in front of someone literally twice your size, which was my MO during my early wargaming days.

My worst rage fit playing wargames was about two years ago playing a casual game of Warmachine with a friend and I couldn’t roll decent damage against his mangled up Behemoth. I pretty much wiped everything else off the board except his warcaster, the half dead behemoth and a few stragglers from an Ironfang unit. All I had to do was kill his Behemoth to get to his warcaster and it was game. After whiffing with the Stormclad pumped with two focus then poking it with a Centurion pumped with one focus for the charge the Behemoth was largely unscathed and h returned the favor on my friend’s turn to nearly wreck my stormclad. That caused me to throw my $30 custom dice across the room to be lost forever.

The worst rage fit I witnessed was between two older folks playing WHFB. One was playing Skaven and the other was playing Dwarves. All I remember was one threw some dice the other threw a “God Damn it” then next thing I knew the guy playing dwarves was slinging his models across the room. Needless to say it did not end well as the store owner/manager had to kick him out. A pathetic sight indeed when a grown man throws a tantrum over toy soldiers.

Last edition; first shot of the game was from my landraider against my opponents killa kan which I got very lucky with resulting in an explosion result. He hadn't moved yet and so his forces were packed pretty densely. The explosion hits a ton of infantry and one of his trucks which are consumed as well. I'm trying hard not to crack up as his forehead vein starts throbbing and he turns a distinct shade of purple. He loses about 1/3rd of his force including his boss and proceeds to flip his lid. He howls really loudly and swings his arm across the table literally sweeping his remaining force off the table and all over my floor. (breaking quite a few of his models in the process)

A separate game my brother is playing the same d-bag (this time at his house) and his ork warboss totally whiffs in a charge rolling all ones against some vanilla marines. He rages and proceeds to "punish" his metal warbosses failure by pounding the model into his dining table with his hard cover rulesbook. He keeps pounding away until he's ripped completely through the rear cover and about 10-15 pages, there's also a nice warboss shaped dent in the table. He then throws the book and storms off upstairs while crying. Despite the behavior of this guy is a grown man in his mid 30's. Needless to say we never game against him anymore.


My personal rage moment was playing a really long game of bad company with hard core death match, due to a lag issue he knifed me despite having unloaded an entire magazine into my last opponent which caused me to throw my controller and it broke a picture and damaged the left joystick so the L3 button no longer works.

I have once thrown a Battletech 'Mech (a plastic one) across the room because we'd spent nearly 2 hours playing a single game and I'd managed to hit nothing despite the bell curve being in my favour the entire time (6+ or 7+ on 2d6 for pretty much everything). My opponent understood.

Some great stories so far lol. It's nice to see people being honest and talk about the times they themselves raged.

Best one I can think of is years ago when playing Bloodbowl. One of the people in the league had a strength 8 troll (remarkably suspicious, especially as the guy who had apparently seen him make the stat increase roll was never at the club). The troll was represented by just a torso of the miniature, lying down(!) This was with the old edition of the rules, where the apothecary gave you a 2+ recovery roll for injuries.

The player with the troll went to block a lineman, and said something along the lines of "what sort of size do you want the coffin to be?" He then rolled triple-skull. Re-rolled, and rolled triple skull again. Rolled armour, beat the armour. Rolled injury, double 6 (this was death in the old rules). Then rolled for apothecary and rolled a one (failure)! All of this had happened in about 3 seconds with the guy just rolling so fast each time, and everyone watching stood in stunned disbelief. The guy he was playing said "I guess a troll-sized coffin." We all burst into laughter, which stopped when the player picked up the troll torso and hurled in across the room, threw his miniatures in a box and stomped off.

When Hector Rex had his awesome deamon fighting rules, one of the Chaos Deamons players had his FW bloodthirster attack him. Hector survived the initial assault, and took out the bloodthirster.

The guy walked outside for awhile. We just gamed on without him. Walked in, packed up, and left in the middle of an apocalypse game.

Second game, he had a shield generator up for 2 turns to block the lords of the black crusade. Our forces dropped an orbital bombardment away from him, one scatter later. All the guys were dead.

I Started as a Tyranids player.

My second game ever was against a 40 something year old dude who played Eldar and bragged about his oop metal wraithlord that he called "bob". He seemed to think that as I was a newb that I would be intimidated by his badly painted army and his attempts to throw his weight around at the campus club. I don't care whatsoever about a players age...I only mention that to illustrate my point.

Turn three "bob" was caught in a charge by my two carnifexes. He failed all the rolls and "bob" was ripped to shreds. This crippled his army and he subsequently went full tantrum.

He began yelling at me and crying. Called me all sorts of things......including cheesy. I can't see how a 4th codex with two carnifexes, a squad of warriors, and a bunch of gaunts fits that bill.

I have *thankfully* never seen his equal in my subsequent 6 years of play on four different continents.

My friend was painting a rhino with soem forge world bits on it. He got a finger pprint on the paint, so hurled the model at the concrete floor and stormed out. It smashed into many small bits that went flying all over the room. Never found it all.

Never done it in a wargame. When I was single I would rage on COD at home but never on the mic on rare occasions.

Did almost see full scale brawl once. We have a certain individual who can't seem to comprehend rules despite the fact he's read them more than once and will stubbornly insist he's right. Unfortunately he tried this act on one of our resident war veterans which didn't go over well.

It's funny how people can rage so much when all these games have fixed rules that everyone can check up on, they still manage to argue and get angry lol.
On a sort of side note, when someone calls someone's army "cheesy", what does that actually mean? Seen people say it a lot, does it mean their army has a lot of cliche models? Or that it just isn't a good list?

 Glaiceana wrote:
On a sort of side note, when someone calls someone's army "cheesy", what does that actually mean?

Calling an army cheesy is a form of cognitive dissonance ie. "I lost, therefore the army I fought was broken in some way and that caused me to lose. I did nothing wrong."

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Calling an army cheesy is a form of cognitive dissonance ie. "I lost, therefore the army I fought was broken in some way and that caused me to lose. I did nothing wrong."

Not so much, in 3rd edition where you could make a formation where your models could be neither shot or assaulted so you could stand them in the middle of the field and be unable to be touched, there was 'Cheesy' stuff which broke the game wide open. Same with 180 cultists and 60-model Ork HQs which had to take 30 wounds before an ork could be hurt.

There was 'nothing' anyone could do in regards to those in 3rd edition. The game simply became a unplayable mess while one player just auto-won the game.

Ive had a friend have a bad game and flick his models down and contstantly say hes given up by the amount of gak rolls hes had, But no actually injuries = P

I understand getting alittle frusterated when you fail all your army saves on a 900 point Death Star = P

 Glaiceana wrote:

On a sort of side note, when someone calls someone's army "cheesy", what does that actually mean? Seen people say it a lot, does it mean their army has a lot of cliche models? Or that it just isn't a good list?

To try and give a more concise answer..

Cheese is using something which is legal within the rules, but not exactly sporting. It normally occurs via either fielding multiple units which are too powerful for their points cost, or exploiting a particular set of rules interactions. Two common examples would be Imperial Guard fielding many fliers, or daemons being able to give a unit a 2+ re-rollable invulnerable save.

What an individual deems cheesy tends to vary with their approach to the game (ie 'casual' players generally cry cheese a lot more often than 'competitive' players)

It is generally a byproduct of GW's wooly rules writing and lax play testing, so it is most prevalent, but not necessarily limited to, Warhammer and 40K.

Many years ago I was at a gaming convention and I signed up for a Wahammer Fantasy Battles game for noobs. I dont remember which edition it was (it had to be an early one). But it was 3 on 3 (basically we had a formation or two each) and in the first game a guy showed up with his own army (the game host had all the minis for everyone who didnt - and most of us used what he provided). Anyway, he lined up his formation up in one line (as opposed to ranks), and even after the game host stated if he failed a check that close to the table edge, they all would retreat off the board. Sure enough, in a round or two a couple minis from one of our opponents managed to reach his line, beat a sngle guy in the line in combat, he failed some roll, and off his entire group went. He was livid and threw all his minis into is box and stormed off. I was like, wow.

It was really my only time playing WFB and to be honest I havent played it since. It was a fun day, I played another game, but it wasnt something I wanted to invest a lot of my own money into.

But I think back on that guy, and others like him, and I think people react this way due to a few of reasons:

1) People seem to bond with their armies - They make personal choices in the troops they buy, and spend ALOT money and time building and painting them - far more than they play, and so to see a particular group get wacked prob hurts their ego (In my case I always had a terrible time with my Striking Scorpions, which I refuse to bother with today, and I spent so much time painting those guys cause I really like the models, but had really bad luck with them to the point I stopped using them.

2) People have a hard time with rules - Even in my case, I don't remember everything, nor spend a lot of time on what my opponents armies can do, so sometimes I am taken back by a skill a unit might have, where I am like, 'man had I known that' but I blame my own ignorance on that. Others prob think its BS, which is unjust.

3) And finally, just because you know the rules, doesnt mean you are good at tactics. In my own gaming group, I was practically undefeated in Adeptus Titanicus/Epic Space Marine, where I was good at strategy on a bigger scale, yet routinely got my ass handed to me at 40k, which is more tactical than strategical. You would think if I could manage hundreds of minis I could be fine with 30, but I wasnt. I think people's minds are just better at some things and others, and can't handle not being Patton at every game they play. And of course, there is always the luck of the dice, who many people can't handle either.

 azreal13 wrote:

 Glaiceana wrote:

On a sort of side note, when someone calls someone's army "cheesy", what does that actually mean? Seen people say it a lot, does it mean their army has a lot of cliche models? Or that it just isn't a good list?

To try and give a more concise answer..

Cheese is using something which is legal within the rules, but not exactly sporting. It normally occurs via either fielding multiple units which are too powerful for their points cost, or exploiting a particular set of rules interactions. Two common examples would be Imperial Guard fielding many fliers, or daemons being able to give a unit a 2+ re-rollable invulnerable save.

What an individual deems cheesy tends to vary with their approach to the game (ie 'casual' players generally cry cheese a lot more often than 'competitive' players)

It is generally a byproduct of GW's wooly rules writing and lax play testing, so it is most prevalent, but not necessarily limited to, Warhammer and 40K.

Ah, thank you for explaining.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Glaiceana wrote:
On a sort of side note, when someone calls someone's army "cheesy", what does that actually mean?

Calling an army cheesy is a form of cognitive dissonance ie. "I lost, therefore the army I fought was broken in some way and that caused me to lose. I did nothing wrong."

Only if you decide the list is Cheesy after its defeated you.

Whereas declaring a list Cheesy based on the min-maxing of units you perceive to be broken and OP, before you play it is not. I've not played Trip-Tide Tau lists or 4 Heldrake lists but I still think they sound cheesy.

Wow, stories like this make me glad to game with a club at member's homes. If someone pulled any meanness, unsportsmanlike behavior, ranting, or throwing, they would quickly be ejected and not invited back.

3 years of this gentlemanly gaming has quite spoiled me.

You know, this reminds me of something just the opposite, in that same gaming group I mentioned above, we had a game back in 40k 2nd edition between two of us playing Ultramarines, against two others playing Chaos. We were playing with a bunker, and my friend showed up with I gak you not, 4 Bloodthirsters. We always kept our armies secret till game day, so we never knew what the other would bring (we just set the points) and we were like oh crap. I think our strategy card enabled us to move a unit ahead before the start of the game, and we chose our Terminators thinking that maybe they could hold off this daemon rush in CC in time for the rest of our guys to pick off his army. The Terminators got swamped by a ton of lesser daemons and went down much quicker than we expected, but, he lost 3 Bloodthirsters to heavy weapons trying to rush at us. Finally he reached our bunker with the last one and brought the whole thing down killing most of the guys in it.

I was thinking how a player could have stormed off over the Terminators, and worse losing 3 of 4 Bloodthirsters charging across the board, which were not only pricey models, but also cost a lot in points, but we loved it. It was gutsy, exciting, and nerve wracking as they approached. And the Ultramarines prevailed I believe, but I can't be sure. I know we managed to kill off the last Bloodthirster once he was within our lines.

But these games can be like a story unfolding if you dont take it personally. To get so pissed off over a game is just so dumb to me. It says alot about some of the idiots who show up to play these games.


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I remember listening to a guy who thought 5 man Space Marine squads were cheesy. I don't know why. I hate the idea of 10-man Space Marine squads everywhere. I prefer smaller games anyway.

Ramshackle_Curtis wrote:My friend was painting a rhino with soem forge world bits on it. He got a finger pprint on the paint, so hurled the model at the concrete floor and stormed out. It smashed into many small bits that went flying all over the room. Never found it all.

Yeah there seems to be a lot of cases of people breaking their own models. At least in those cases no one else's stuff gets damaged, and they still only have themselves to blame lol.

KTG17 wrote:Many years ago I was at a gaming convention and I signed up for a Wahammer Fantasy Battles game for noobs. I dont remember which edition it was (it had to be an early one). But it was 3 on 3 (basically we had a formation or two each) and in the first game a guy showed up with his own army (the game host had all the minis for everyone who didnt - and most of us used what he provided). Anyway, he lined up his formation up in one line (as opposed to ranks), and even after the game host stated if he failed a check that close to the table edge, they all would retreat off the board. Sure enough, in a round or two a couple minis from one of our opponents managed to reach his line, beat a sngle guy in the line in combat, he failed some roll, and off his entire group went. He was livid and threw all his minis into is box and stormed off. I was like, wow.

It was really my only time playing WFB and to be honest I havent played it since. It was a fun day, I played another game, but it wasnt something I wanted to invest a lot of my own money into.

But I think back on that guy, and others like him, and I think people react this way due to a few of reasons:

1) People seem to bond with their armies - They make personal choices in the troops they buy, and spend ALOT money and time building and painting them - far more than they play, and so to see a particular group get wacked prob hurts their ego (In my case I always had a terrible time with my Striking Scorpions, which I refuse to bother with today, and I spent so much time painting those guys cause I really like the models, but had really bad luck with them to the point I stopped using them.

2) People have a hard time with rules - Even in my case, I don't remember everything, nor spend a lot of time on what my opponents armies can do, so sometimes I am taken back by a skill a unit might have, where I am like, 'man had I known that' but I blame my own ignorance on that. Others prob think its BS, which is unjust.

3) And finally, just because you know the rules, doesnt mean you are good at tactics. In my own gaming group, I was practically undefeated in Adeptus Titanicus/Epic Space Marine, where I was good at strategy on a bigger scale, yet routinely got my ass handed to me at 40k, which is more tactical than strategical. You would think if I could manage hundreds of minis I could be fine with 30, but I wasnt. I think people's minds are just better at some things and others, and can't handle not being Patton at every game they play. And of course, there is always the luck of the dice, who many people can't handle either.

Those reasons are very true. I can understand how people can get very attached to their models, and yes not to mention the money spent. But still, with the accounts of full grown men actually screaming and crying over lost battles, they really should know better it is still a game in the end, someons HAS to lose, and plus, you're meant to be having fun.

I was playing an Ork player back in 3rd ed and i was using my Blood Angels. She did not have much experience with the rules and since every time i shot her units they did not get any saves so models were just removed from the table. As the game continued she got pissed, and started picking up her models by the handful and slamming them into her box. Arms and heads would fly in different directions.

Now, i might throw a dice (small ones) across the room after lots of bad rolls, but the worst I ever did was when i guy was cheating in a tournament. We all called him Cheater Bob for a reason. This was 4th or 5th, not sure but my Blood Angels fell back and at the start of my turn regrouped thanks to ATSKNF. i start to move forward as normal, and he starts to question the rule. After reading him the rule and allowing him to read the rule he still argued i was wrong.

Finally after a few mins, i started cursing him loudly and made some very personal attacks on him. not my finest moment but the TO agreed with my ruling, and even told Bob that he was purposefully misreading the rule to gain an advantage.

 paulson games wrote:
Last edition; first shot of the game was from my landraider against my opponents killa kan which I got very lucky with resulting in an explosion result. He hadn't moved yet and so his forces were packed pretty densely. The explosion hits a ton of infantry and one of his trucks which are consumed as well. I'm trying hard not to crack up as his forehead vein starts throbbing and he turns a distinct shade of purple. He loses about 1/3rd of his force including his boss and proceeds to flip his lid. He howls really loudly and swings his arm across the table literally sweeping his remaining force off the table and all over my floor. (breaking quite a few of his models in the process)

A separate game my brother is playing the same d-bag (this time at his house) and his ork warboss totally whiffs in a charge rolling all ones against some vanilla marines. He rages and proceeds to "punish" his metal warbosses failure by pounding the model into his dining table with his hard cover rulesbook. He keeps pounding away until he's ripped completely through the rear cover and about 10-15 pages, there's also a nice warboss shaped dent in the table. He then throws the book and storms off upstairs while crying. Despite the behavior of this guy is a grown man in his mid 30's. Needless to say we never game against him anymore.


My personal rage moment was playing a really long game of bad company with hard core death match, due to a lag issue he knifed me despite having unloaded an entire magazine into my last opponent which caused me to throw my controller and it broke a picture and damaged the left joystick so the L3 button no longer works.

I would of paid hundreds of dollars to witness this epic freak out.

I had a buddy Jon, back in 4th edition, we were playing Eldar vs space marines and he advanced some guardians onto my 5 man tactical squad, he had over 80 shots go into that one unit, and the results I lost nothing, every space marine was fine.

He preceded to put his arm on the table and swept his entire army against the wall in nerd rage fashion, eldar went flying everywhere

My response " Does this mean I win?"

+I had a customer that played IG. He used 3 cubes of different colored dice for faster rolling, etc. I always kept his dice colors in stock because if he was having a bad dice day with enough prodding (and it didn't take much), he would take his dice outside, pull a sledge hammer out of his truck and proceed to smash all 108 dice. It was quite a show and the whole group got a kick out of it. His brother used to agitate him on purpose to see how many times he could make him go into nerd rage mode.

Sounds like that was a nice little earner for you.

crazyredpraetorian wrote:
+I had a customer that played IG. He used 3 cubes of different colored dice for faster rolling, etc. I always kept his dice colors in stock because if he was having a bad dice day with enough prodding (and it didn't take much), he would take his dice outside, pull a sledge hammer out of his truck and proceed to smash all 108 dice. It was quite a show and the whole group got a kick out of it. His brother used to agitate him on purpose to see how many times he could make him go into nerd rage mode.

Well, I feel sorry for the dice xD But yeah I guess he could just buy some more from you

At the last tournament I judged, I had a grown man slam both fists up and down on a table, while yelling profanities, like a child because of a couple key bad rolls....in a game he was winning, an argument over floored dice on a scatter roll (understandable due to outside circumstances), an illegal list, and a player A calling out (profanities and all) another player for sneaking around to get a DQ on player A for player A's illegal list. And a generally large amount of complaining to boot. I think only a single player, by the end of the day, was left still acting decently despite everything. That was a rough day for me.

I have also seen a player flip out because....wait for it...2 guardsman died in a single shooting phase out of about 100 of them. You should have seen the reaction when my talos (I was already clearly losing at this point) and incubi/archon squad hit his lines (in 5th edition). Guardsman were just getting chucked at the box.

 pities2004 wrote:

 paulson games wrote:
Last edition; first shot of the game was from my landraider against my opponents killa kan which I got very lucky with resulting in an explosion result. He hadn't moved yet and so his forces were packed pretty densely. The explosion hits a ton of infantry and one of his trucks which are consumed as well. I'm trying hard not to crack up as his forehead vein starts throbbing and he turns a distinct shade of purple. He loses about 1/3rd of his force including his boss and proceeds to flip his lid. He howls really loudly and swings his arm across the table literally sweeping his remaining force off the table and all over my floor. (breaking quite a few of his models in the process)

A separate game my brother is playing the same d-bag (this time at his house) and his ork warboss totally whiffs in a charge rolling all ones against some vanilla marines. He rages and proceeds to "punish" his metal warbosses failure by pounding the model into his dining table with his hard cover rulesbook. He keeps pounding away until he's ripped completely through the rear cover and about 10-15 pages, there's also a nice warboss shaped dent in the table. He then throws the book and storms off upstairs while crying. Despite the behavior of this guy is a grown man in his mid 30's. Needless to say we never game against him anymore.


My personal rage moment was playing a really long game of bad company with hard core death match, due to a lag issue he knifed me despite having unloaded an entire magazine into my last opponent which caused me to throw my controller and it broke a picture and damaged the left joystick so the L3 button no longer works.

I would of paid hundreds of dollars to witness this epic freak out.

I had a buddy Jon, back in 4th edition, we were playing Eldar vs space marines and he advanced some guardians onto my 5 man tactical squad, he had over 80 shots go into that one unit, and the results I lost nothing, every space marine was fine.

He preceded to put his arm on the table and swept his entire army against the wall in nerd rage fashion, eldar went flying everywhere

My response " Does this mean I win?"

Yeah I would have loved to see that freak out too xD When you were talking about it I assumed the guy was randomly 14 or something, not mid 30s lol.
A lot of these cases seem more just like anger management issues. I mean sure, I've slammed my hand down in a couple of moments in some computer games, maybe swore a bit depending on what happened, but it's rare, I doubt I would ever rage with a 40k game etc, and especially wouldn't be damaging my models.

I did threaten to throw my bloodthirster against a wall when it landed in terrain and proceeded to roll 1's across the board for landing, re-roll from Kairos, and the move through cover rolls (if memory serves correctly). He rolled 4 1's in a row and splattered himself (he was on his last wound). Thankfully, my slaaneshi princes rocked the game.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I did threaten to throw my bloodthirster against a wall when it landed in terrain and proceeded to roll 1's across the board for landing, re-roll from Kairos, and the move through cover rolls (if memory serves correctly). He rolled 4 1's in a row and splattered himself (he was on his last wound). Thankfully, my slaaneshi princes rocked the game.

A close call to the end of a model

I got a bit grumpy playing Monopoly on holiday once.

The Mrs and other-in-Law were definitely colluding though - selling good property for peanuts to each other while trying to charge me £1000 for Pall Mall. Rage inducing indeed!

 notprop wrote:
I got a bit grumpy playing Monopoly on holiday once.

The Mrs and other-in-Law were definitely colluding though - selling good property for peanuts to each other while trying to charge me £1000 for Pall Mall. Rage inducing indeed!

That's Monopoly man, if you are not in a murderous rage by the end of it, you aren't playing it right.

Love that game. :3

Mine comes from a long, long time ago, back when I was first starting Space Wolves and my friend was still using my Tau models as a proxy Necron army (he didn't have the money to even think about starting a real army). We played a game, I think it was about 1850 points, him running three monoliths and a bunch of Necron Warriors, me running a handful of Space Wolves in Rhinos with a squad of Wolf Guard Terminators and Logan Grimnar in a Land Raider.

Game starts, I get the first move, I roll up 12" and pop my smoke. He spends his entire turn trying to shoot down my Land Raider, and fails (bearing in mind that this was when he had to blow off all of its weapons and immobilize it, no hull points yet). I think he managed to destroy a gun and shake it like crazy, but nothing else. Next turn, I roll up another 12", pile everyone out, and assault one of his units, a massive blob of Warriors. It might have been two units, but the important thing is that it was a huge unit, and it had two HQs attached to it.

As one might expect, my Terminators turned the Warriors into a gray, oily paste, and they started running. I consolidated into range so that they couldn't regroup (again, 5th Edition rules), and they ran off the board. Now the game has been going on for two turns and he's out two HQs and a ton of Warriors, and unless he starts running, I'm going to get him to phase out in the next couple of turns. He considered things for a moment (for the life of me I can't recall whether he thought the Monolith's weapon was only AP3, or if he simply didn't think they would be able to take out Terminators with shields), then quit in a spectacular fashion by flinging some of my Tau models across the table.

There was another game where we were using some weird rules, and he literally kicked a wall in frustration after losing the roll for first turn (which seems really silly, but we basically had every unit within 12" of each other on the first turn, so I was going to be in range of assaulting him on turn one). And of course...the match wound up being a draw.

You can imagine why I don't enjoy playing against him. He is by far one of the sorest losers I've ever encountered.

I only ragequit video games.. like call of doodie, when kids with reflexes murderize me when I'm only 1 pixel tall on their kill cam and I never see em coming.

I've never ragequiited 40k, because I lose every game so I'm used to it now.

I haven't really had any rage stories, but one my brother had was funny.

He was playing against a store manager on a slow day. His Chaplain kept tearing through the managers squads, and when he finally killed it, he picked it up, screamed, and put it in his mouth. And kept it in there for the rest of the game, talking with it clamped between his teeth like a cigar. Game ended, and the manager gave the chaplain back.

The chaplain got thrown in the bin.

The worst I've ever had was getting caught in between two players in a heated rules argument when I was trying to mind my business and talk to someone.

Bear in mind, I hadn't played a game in 6 months, didn't have the foggiest idea of how either of their armies worked (nids and Dark Angels) and didn't have a great grasp of 6th ed to begin with. I also wasn't a big fan of these two players as they had both been getting on my nerves lately, so my patience was thin to begin with.

And here they were asking me to settle every issue that came up, which was roughly every 10 minutes about completely asinine rules that had no real impact on the game. After the 4th time I saw they had a rulebook RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. It took everything I had not to smack them both silly with that 15lb hardback.

 -Loki- wrote:
I haven't really had any rage stories, but one my brother had was funny.

He was playing against a store manager on a slow day. His Chaplain kept tearing through the managers squads, and when he finally killed it, he picked it up, screamed, and put it in his mouth. And kept it in there for the rest of the game, talking with it clamped between his teeth like a cigar. Game ended, and the manager gave the chaplain back.

The chaplain got thrown in the bin.

HE PUT YOUR BROTHER'S CHAPLAIN IN HIS MOUTH?!?!?

If that were me, I would have said "You just bought yourself my Chaplain. I want a replacement because I don't want that one back.". That is a very strange reaction to a game event.

All these stories kinda depress me cause im a new starting warhammer 40k who is only building up army currently just trying to get some few essentials that my friends are telling me imam need and its sad that people rage that hardcore over this game I love warhammer 40k cause of the books and games they have hopefully I don't play anyone like that cause I might like freak or something watching the figures break and dice getting smashed that or id bust out laughing and get a rage beat down from them if they touch my figures though they die that's all I have to say. lol

FOGsnake wrote:
All these stories kinda depress me cause im a new starting warhammer 40k who is only building up army currently just trying to get some few essentials that my friends are telling me imam need and its sad that people rage that hardcore over this game I love warhammer 40k cause of the books and games they have hopefully I don't play anyone like that cause I might like freak or something watching the figures break and dice getting smashed that or id bust out laughing and get a rage beat down from them if they touch my figures though they die that's all I have to say. lol

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FOGsnake wrote:
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 curran12 wrote:
That's Monopoly man, if you are not in a murderous rage by the end of it, you aren't playing it right.

Sigged, good sir!


The only way I can sit through monopoly is if we use some of my minis so I can at least pretend it's an enjoyable activity. Until the blood flows, of course.

Apparently the reason Monopoly is so bad/rage inducing is simply because everyone plays the rules wrong! (or so /r/boardgames keeps telling me).

Not because it's a terrible, cut-throat game of evil.

No no no, Monopoly causes rage because whoever is winning tends to landslide, and no one else can come back. >.>

-Loki- wrote:I haven't really had any rage stories, but one my brother had was funny.

He was playing against a store manager on a slow day. His Chaplain kept tearing through the managers squads, and when he finally killed it, he picked it up, screamed, and put it in his mouth. And kept it in there for the rest of the game, talking with it clamped between his teeth like a cigar. Game ended, and the manager gave the chaplain back.

The chaplain got thrown in the bin.

Well, that's pretty weird, I knew someone who bit their game controllers when they raged, maybe kind of the same sort of reaction? XD

MrMoustaffa wrote:The worst I've ever had was getting caught in between two players in a heated rules argument when I was trying to mind my business and talk to someone.

Bear in mind, I hadn't played a game in 6 months, didn't have the foggiest idea of how either of their armies worked (nids and Dark Angels) and didn't have a great grasp of 6th ed to begin with. I also wasn't a big fan of these two players as they had both been getting on my nerves lately, so my patience was thin to begin with.

And here they were asking me to settle every issue that came up, which was roughly every 10 minutes about completely asinine rules that had no real impact on the game. After the 4th time I saw they had a rulebook RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. It took everything I had not to smack them both silly with that 15lb hardback.

Haha, yeah that does sound pretty annoying, they just want someone else to sort their problems out, problems they are making and could easily solve by checking the weapons grade rule book in front of them

MrDwhitey wrote:Apparently the reason Monopoly is so bad/rage inducing is simply because everyone plays the rules wrong! (or so /r/boardgames keeps telling me).

Not because it's a terrible, cut-throat game of evil.

Yeah monopoly only seems to really escalate due to cheating or from someone just getting way too lucky at the start and no one can compete after that.

Not so much a rage quit as a "Screw you guys!" thing.

Playing DDO (Dungeons and Dragons online) as a cleric, I got in a pick up group with a very bossy group leader. I needed the EP, so I just went with it. He kept bitching about my healing, though. I admit I wasn't the best in the world, but I do keep people healed up as best I can. If you run off, my motto is "I don't heal stupid". Anyway, I'd had enough of the guy, so right at the end of the quest when we fight the big bad guy, I dropped group. I'll never know if he finished the quest, but I did add him to my ignore list and "do not run with" list.

Good times.

I've seen many people sling dice when they "roll bad". Thrown across the store, into the mall, into the street, just about anywhere they can to feel better.

I had someone rage quit on me while playing Fantasy because I had my unit flee rather than get butchered by a Bloodthirster on the account that I was pulling the fun out of the game.

 OnlyWar wrote:
i knew a guy used the following list. he went for three stright months without losing, then finally loses to a SOB army and claims that the SOB player was using unfair rules and that SOB were broken and had a ton of cheesy units. he did not see the irony in what he just said.

this was the list he was using IIRC
Imotek the Stormlord
Retinue: 1 Chronometron Cryptek

Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors
Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek

Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe

Imperial Bastion w/ Comms Relay

Possibly one of the most boring lists you could possibly bring or face...

XXXX

GoingtoHell wrote:

 OnlyWar wrote:
i knew a guy used the following list. he went for three stright months without losing, then finally loses to a SOB army and claims that the SOB player was using unfair rules and that SOB were broken and had a ton of cheesy units. he did not see the irony in what he just said.

this was the list he was using IIRC
Imotek the Stormlord
Retinue: 1 Chronometron Cryptek

Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors
Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek

Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe

Imperial Bastion w/ Comms Relay

Possibly one of the most boring lists you could possibly bring or face...

XXXX

The beer?

 the shrouded lord wrote:

GoingtoHell wrote:

 OnlyWar wrote:
i knew a guy used the following list. he went for three stright months without losing, then finally loses to a SOB army and claims that the SOB player was using unfair rules and that SOB were broken and had a ton of cheesy units. he did not see the irony in what he just said.

this was the list he was using IIRC
Imotek the Stormlord
Retinue: 1 Chronometron Cryptek

Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors
Night Scythe w/5 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek
Night Scythe w/10 Necron Warriors + Voltaic Cryptek

Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe
Doom Scythe

Imperial Bastion w/ Comms Relay

Possibly one of the most boring lists you could possibly bring or face...

XXXX

The beer?

You'd need to rolling drunk and stoned to enjoy that game...

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Apparently the reason Monopoly is so bad/rage inducing is simply because everyone plays the rules wrong! (or so /r/boardgames keeps telling me).

Not because it's a terrible, cut-throat game of evil.

No, it's more cut throat if you play it by the rules as written. House rules usually make it a gentler, if massively longer game.

I think the main reason why monopoly is so bad is because you know by the end of the second or third lap that you are going to lose, yet you have to sit there for another dozen or more laps and die the death of a thousand cuts. Then you flip fate the finger by making sweet deals with the enemy of your enemy until no one is enjoying anything. Add in the 10%-to-the-bank crap for every single hiccup in your game, and you have an experience akin to paying taxes through your health insurance provider. It's a wonder so few people are murdered over the game.

 kronk wrote:
Not so much a rage quit as a "Screw you guys!" thing.

Playing DDO (Dungeons and Dragons online) as a cleric, I got in a pick up group with a very bossy group leader. I needed the EP, so I just went with it. He kept bitching about my healing, though. I admit I wasn't the best in the world, but I do keep people healed up as best I can. If you run off, my motto is "I don't heal stupid". Anyway, I'd had enough of the guy, so right at the end of the quest when we fight the big bad guy, I dropped group. I'll never know if he finished the quest, but I did add him to my ignore list and "do not run with" list.

Good times.

This is awesome. Love it. As an ex-DPS MMO player myself (i usually go for the glass cannons, so rogues), clerics, even not so great ones, were my BFF's.

There is a reason why you are always nice to the healers in MMO's, and only g-kick them when you have a replacement lined up and ready to go.

Barfolomew wrote:
I've seen many people sling dice when they "roll bad". Thrown across the store, into the mall, into the street, just about anywhere they can to feel better.

I had someone rage quit on me while playing Fantasy because I had my unit flee rather than get butchered by a Bloodthirster on the account that I was pulling the fun out of the game.

Yeah the dice seem to be the most common thing to have the rage taken out on. Bad enough form as it is just throwing them in the first place, but if its someone else's dice, well that's just uncalled for.

The one I keep waiting to hear about is a table flipping incident. Like, full on RAGE and someone just flips the table over, models and all.

I'm sure this has happened somewhere...

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
...an experience akin to paying taxes through your health insurance provider.

That is by far the most apt description I've ever seen of the ()(*&( of a game

Not so much of a rage story but ... it is rather funny now that it is in the past.

I went to the local store to play a game of regular 40k and got roped into playing an Apoc game. Told the owner that I did not have the right models but I could put a list together and proxy stuff if that was alright. He said it was and I went into devious mode. At this time the BA could take the Lucius Drop Pods. So I took a ton of Death Company and 2 DC Blender Dreads.
The rules at the time said that you could not disembark one thing and embark onto something else. He was arguing that he could and we had a drawn out argument about it. My teammate was just kinda being quite the whole time. Bottom of turn 1 and it is my turn now. My DC Dread drops in and he flips a lid that it landed on his Bolter Bitches after it scattered and I reduced the scatter as per DP rules. Got that straightened out and he made a comment that 'At least it can not assault me this turn." I tell him that it is in a Lucius DP and it can assault this turn.

He rages about how you have to have the actual FW Model to use the rules and some various other stuff ... I explained to him that my ENTIRE army was proxy for this Apoc game. I had had enough and was not going to take anymore and told him I was done. Still, my teammate was being rather quite. Then the owner made a mistake and suggested that I quit acting like a bitch.

I do not know what my expression was but I can tell you this, I had a complete sense of calm when I told him to say that again and the table between us would not be able to stop me. I calmly put my little toy soldiers away and proceeded to leave ...

 OIIIIIIO wrote:
Not so much of a rage story but ... it is rather funny now that it is in the past.

I went to the local store to play a game of regular 40k and got roped into playing an Apoc game. Told the owner that I did not have the right models but I could put a list together and proxy stuff if that was alright. He said it was and I went into devious mode. At this time the BA could take the Lucius Drop Pods. So I took a ton of Death Company and 2 DC Blender Dreads.
The rules at the time said that you could not disembark one thing and embark onto something else. He was arguing that he could and we had a drawn out argument about it. My teammate was just kinda being quite the whole time. Bottom of turn 1 and it is my turn now. My DC Dread drops in and he flips a lid that it landed on his Bolter Bitches after it scattered and I reduced the scatter as per DP rules. Got that straightened out and he made a comment that 'At least it can not assault me this turn." I tell him that it is in a Lucius DP and it can assault this turn.

He rages about how you have to have the actual FW Model to use the rules and some various other stuff ... I explained to him that my ENTIRE army was proxy for this Apoc game. I had had enough and was not going to take anymore and told him I was done. Still, my teammate was being rather quite. Then the owner made a mistake and suggested that I quit acting like a bitch.

I do not know what my expression was but I can tell you this, I had a complete sense of calm when I told him to say that again and the table between us would not be able to stop me. I calmly put my little toy soldiers away and proceeded to leave ...

Good story. If this happened in an online kind of environment, I'd say the manager was being a troll, but in this case, I think it was HIM who was just being a bitch lol.

Well, i have never really encountered any such ragequits-my group is composed of gentlemen
However, i have ragequit from a Mechwarrior Online match.... Several infact.

And Monopoly.... Yeah that game is awful. My little brother loves it mainly due to his uncanny luck with it. But i have reached suicide levels of deppression from that game....

 OIIIIIIO wrote:
Not so much of a rage story but ... it is rather funny now that it is in the past.

I went to the local store to play a game of regular 40k and got roped into playing an Apoc game. Told the owner that I did not have the right models but I could put a list together and proxy stuff if that was alright. He said it was and I went into devious mode.

Spoiler:

At this time the BA could take the Lucius Drop Pods. So I took a ton of Death Company and 2 DC Blender Dreads.
The rules at the time said that you could not disembark one thing and embark onto something else. He was arguing that he could and we had a drawn out argument about it. My teammate was just kinda being quite the whole time. Bottom of turn 1 and it is my turn now. My DC Dread drops in and he flips a lid that it landed on his Bolter Bitches after it scattered and I reduced the scatter as per DP rules. Got that straightened out and he made a comment that 'At least it can not assault me this turn." I tell him that it is in a Lucius DP and it can assault this turn.

He rages about how you have to have the actual FW Model to use the rules and some various other stuff ...

I explained to him that my ENTIRE army was proxy for this Apoc game. I had had enough and was not going to take anymore and told him I was done. Still, my teammate was being rather quite. Then the owner made a mistake and suggested that I quit acting like a bitch.

I do not know what my expression was but I can tell you this, I had a complete sense of calm when I told him to say that again and the table between us would not be able to stop me. I calmly put my little toy soldiers away and proceeded to leave ...

And this ladies and gentleman is why you don't allow proxies in an apoc game. His fault of course for allowing them, but allowing someone to play apoc -where it's already hard to keep track of what's what- with an entire proxie army is not a good idea and flies in the face of the intention of an Apoc game.

As I said before, the course of the game is the owner's fault and he shouldn't have used bad language, but it looks like YOU are the one who escalated from bad language to threats of violence. You lose the moral high ground when you raise the level of the confrontation.

 Haight wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Not so much a rage quit as a "Screw you guys!" thing.

Playing DDO (Dungeons and Dragons online) as a cleric, I got in a pick up group with a very bossy group leader. I needed the EP, so I just went with it. He kept bitching about my healing, though. I admit I wasn't the best in the world, but I do keep people healed up as best I can. If you run off, my motto is "I don't heal stupid". Anyway, I'd had enough of the guy, so right at the end of the quest when we fight the big bad guy, I dropped group. I'll never know if he finished the quest, but I did add him to my ignore list and "do not run with" list.

Good times.

This is awesome. Love it. As an ex-DPS MMO player myself (i usually go for the glass cannons, so rogues), clerics, even not so great ones, were my BFF's.

There is a reason why you are always nice to the healers in MMO's, and only g-kick them when you have a replacement lined up and ready to go.

Love being a healer, everyone needs one . I've recently jumped back into FF14:ARR, and they added instance roulette, and at the end of it, you can give a Player Commendation to someone in the group. As a healer, I almost always get one. Helped a bunch of new level 50s through the final storyline instance and got like 4

 Eilif wrote:


And this ladies and gentleman is why you don't allow proxies in an apoc game. His fault of course for allowing them, but allowing someone to play apoc -where it's already hard to keep track of what's what- with an entire proxie army is not a good idea and flies in the face of the intention of an Apoc game.

As I said before, the course of the game is the owner's fault and he shouldn't have used bad language, but it looks like YOU are the one who escalated from bad language to threats of violence. You lose the moral high ground when you raise the level of the confrontation.

Moral high ground .... Thing about it is simply this, when I am pushed, I shove. Do I think that I am better than other people? Nope. Will I allow someone to denigrate me? Nope. Talk is talk, until it is not talk anymore. Did I threaten him with violence? I do not think that I did, I was warning him that the time for talking was almost over, and that the time for backing up his ego was about to begin. This is the only thing that people like that understand. With me there is no level of confrontation unless you bring it with you.

The way I have lived my entire life is like this: If you do not understand or are not willing to comprehend what it is that I am trying to convey to you by the words I speak, then raising my voice is not going to make you understand or grasp what it is that I am trying to explain. Literally witnessed it hundreds of times while I was in Japan. Americans trying to tell a local what they need to do and then raising their voice when the Japanese fella just looks at him.

The worst I've ever heard of (I think it was on here) was of a guy trying to stab someone using a pair of plastic cutters, after he lost a game.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
The worst I've ever heard of (I think it was on here) was of a guy trying to stab someone using a pair of plastic cutters, after he lost a game.

What the feth... For real?

 OIIIIIIO wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

As I said before, the course of the game is the owner's fault and he shouldn't have used bad language, but it looks like YOU are the one who escalated from bad language to threats of violence. You lose the moral high ground when you raise the level of the confrontation.

Moral high ground .... Thing about it is simply this, when I am pushed, I shove. Do I think that I am better than other people? Nope. Will I allow someone to denigrate me? Nope. Talk is talk, until it is not talk anymore. Did I threaten him with violence? I do not think that I did, I was warning him that the time for talking was almost over, and that the time for backing up his ego was about to begin. This is the only thing that people like that understand. With me there is no level of confrontation unless you bring it with you.

The way I have lived my entire life is like this: If you do not understand or are not willing to comprehend what it is that I am trying to convey to you by the words I speak, then raising my voice is not going to make you understand or grasp what it is that I am trying to explain. Literally witnessed it hundreds of times while I was in Japan. Americans trying to tell a local what they need to do and then raising their voice when the Japanese fella just looks at him.

Justify it however you want. Maybe he deserved it and maybe he didn't, but the fact is someone insulted you and you had the choice to tell them "I'm done" and walk away, or you could threaten them physically, or act out physically. Kudos for not choosing the last one, but you still took choice # 2 in saying:

the table between us would not be able to stop me

This was not a push for a shove, it was a threat for an insult. That's called escalation.

I also fail to see how American's not getting their way by raising their voice to Japanese people is somehow a justification for this kind of behavior. People (even bonafide JERKS like this LGS owner) don't owe you their understanding or comprehension. That's why unless you're in physical danger the wise road (and most legally defensible) is to not escalate and walk away.

 master of ordinance wrote:

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
The worst I've ever heard of (I think it was on here) was of a guy trying to stab someone using a pair of plastic cutters, after he lost a game.

What the feth... For real?

Yeah, it was on one of those bad store stories about a year ago

Never rage at your opponent, especially if they are young.

If the kid is annoying, and his mother is close to my age, single, and hot, I just turn on the charm, take her out on a date, and then eventually become his stepdad.

Then, take away his toys.

The best revenge is that dealt cold, through years of work, and sleeping with their mother.

 Eilif wrote:

 OIIIIIIO wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

As I said before, the course of the game is the owner's fault and he shouldn't have used bad language, but it looks like YOU are the one who escalated from bad language to threats of violence. You lose the moral high ground when you raise the level of the confrontation.

Moral high ground .... Thing about it is simply this, when I am pushed, I shove. Do I think that I am better than other people? Nope. Will I allow someone to denigrate me? Nope. Talk is talk, until it is not talk anymore. Did I threaten him with violence? I do not think that I did, I was warning him that the time for talking was almost over, and that the time for backing up his ego was about to begin. This is the only thing that people like that understand. With me there is no level of confrontation unless you bring it with you.

The way I have lived my entire life is like this: If you do not understand or are not willing to comprehend what it is that I am trying to convey to you by the words I speak, then raising my voice is not going to make you understand or grasp what it is that I am trying to explain. Literally witnessed it hundreds of times while I was in Japan. Americans trying to tell a local what they need to do and then raising their voice when the Japanese fella just looks at him.

Justify it however you want. Maybe he deserved it and maybe he didn't, but the fact is someone insulted you and you had the choice to tell them "I'm done" and walk away, or you could threaten them physically, or act out physically. Kudos for not choosing the last one, but you still took choice # 2 in saying:

the table between us would not be able to stop me

This was not a push for a shove, it was a threat for an insult. That's called escalation.

I also fail to see how American's not getting their way by raising their voice to Japanese people is somehow a justification for this kind of behavior. People (even bonafide JERKS like this LGS owner) don't owe you their understanding or comprehension. That's why unless you're in physical danger the wise road (and most legally defensible) is to not escalate and walk away.

You are aware that by insulting someone you are verbally assaulting them. I justify it by the simple fact that some people feel it is almost a duty or obligation to try and demean other people so that they themselves can feel better about themselves. Assault is assault, in any way, shape or form. Does verbal assault grab headlines like physical assault does? Nope, but that does not make it any less real. You can try and justify that however you want.

Violence is not always the answer, I will grant that, but there is one simple fact that even you have to agree to, it forces comprehension and understanding. Comprehension in the fact that you can only verbally assault someone for so long, then understanding by the fact that there is punishment for said transgression.

I have seen enough violence in my life to fill 10 lifetimes and committed enough violence on other humans that it sickens me to recall some of the things that I am responsible for. I did these various different things in the name of my government while I was enlisted, but that does not relieve me of the burden that I will carry for the rest of my life ... knowing what I am capable of.

 kronk wrote:
Never rage at your opponent, especially if they are young.

If the kid is annoying, and his mother is close to my age, single, and hot, I just turn on the charm, take her out on a date, and then eventually become his stepdad.

Then, take away his toys.

The best revenge is that dealt cold, through years of work, and sleeping with their mother.

I take it you speak from experience?

 motyak wrote:

FOGsnake wrote:
Thank you that helped me a lot bro.
The only reason I type like a dumby online is I am not being graded on it....or am I? o.O

While you aren't being graded on it, you have agreed to abide by the rules of the site, upon penalty of bane. This includes use of punctuation, spelling and what not.

I guess DCMs are immune to this punishment? Because I'd hate to get baned! I remember what he did to The Batman... ruined my childhood, that did...



In other news, I admit that I am quite the dicer rager, though I have gotten several levels milder that I used to be. Now I simply walk to the store trash can and throw them away to soothe my frustration. Probably the most graphic display of hate-crimes on dice at my hand came from one night against one of my best friends but confessed nemesis (because everyone has someone you just cant win against). I was playing old CSMs against his SW using the new rules. After getting a 5 man unit of terminators and khorne lord with a pair of lightning claws named Frederick Von Kreugerstein into combat with a 5 man unit of grey hunters, I killed one and he ghosted my lord and two terminators due to his very successful rolls and my terri-bad rolls on armor saves. I proceed to collect my dice bag, containing about 200+ dice and step outside launching them about 50 yards into the adjacent parking lot. After a satisfying splash of the dice skittering across the lot, i went inside to replace my dice with a single block of plain looking GW dice. I think we tied that game, but it just goes to show ya that your dice only roll as good as your attitude.

 WarlordRob117 wrote:

 motyak wrote:

FOGsnake wrote:
Thank you that helped me a lot bro.
The only reason I type like a dumby online is I am not being graded on it....or am I? o.O

While you aren't being graded on it, you have agreed to abide by the rules of the site, upon penalty of bane. This includes use of punctuation, spelling and what not.

I guess DCMs are immune to this punishment? Because I'd hate to get baned! I remember what he did to The Batman... ruined my childhood, that did...

"Baned" came about on Dakka because of a user who is now baned himself accused the mods of being facist overlords, and humorously misspelled the word banned. It was quite the good laugh when it happened, spurred several dakka memes. As to the actual punishment of being banned, DCMs are no more immune to it than the regular user. DCMs as a collective tend to be more understanding to the site's rules because we donate money to help keeping it up and running.

In other news, I admit that I am quite the dicer rager, though I have gotten several levels milder that I used to be. Now I simply walk to the store trash can and throw them away to soothe my frustration. Probably the most graphic display of hate-crimes on dice at my hand came from one night against one of my best friends but confessed nemesis (because everyone has someone you just cant win against). I was playing old CSMs against his SW using the new rules. After getting a 5 man unit of terminators and khorne lord with a pair of lightning claws named Frederick Von Kreugerstein into combat with a 5 man unit of grey hunters, I killed one and he ghosted my lord and two terminators due to his very successful rolls and my terri-bad rolls on armor saves. I proceed to collect my dice bag, containing about 200+ dice and step outside launching them about 50 yards into the adjacent parking lot. After a satisfying splash of the dice skittering across the lot, i went inside to replace my dice with a single block of plain looking GW dice. I think we tied that game, but it just goes to show ya that your dice only roll as good as your attitude.

I have two similar dice related stories.

I was playing 40k with someone during an Apoc game. His Nazi and SS themed IG army (complete with appropriately themed Flames of War dice) was getting hammered, he couldn't make a cover save and couldn't wound a thing. He gets angry and chucks a die out the door. We see it fly up into the air and hit a power line (would have gone into the street otherwise). We run out to see where it lands, and I jokingly told him, "If this is a 5 or a 6, I'll count the cover save." We found it a minute or two later and it was a 6...

I have not experienced the full account of this story, but one of the Flames of War players at my FLGS had bought a new set of dice on 2 occasions. The first occasion, they rolled so badly he went and flushed them down the toilet. The second occasion he took them home, and did a home episode of "Will it Blend?" blended up his dice and put them into a mason jar. Whenever he gets a new set of dice, he shakes this jar over his new dice so they will know there fate. He has pulled it out during a game when he was starting to have poor luck...

 Alfndrate wrote:

I have not experienced the full account of this story, but one of the Flames of War players at my FLGS had bought a new set of dice on 2 occasions. The first occasion, they rolled so badly he went and flushed them down the toilet. The second occasion he took them home, and did a home episode of "Will it Blend?" blended up his dice and put them into a mason jar. Whenever he gets a new set of dice, he shakes this jar over his new dice so they will know there fate. He has pulled it out during a game when he was starting to have poor luck...

Haha that's an awesome story! Yeah threatening the new dice with the remains of the old ones, that will definitely scare them into performing!

 OIIIIIIO wrote:

You are aware that by insulting someone you are verbally assaulting them. I justify it by the simple fact that some people feel it is almost a duty or obligation to try and demean other people so that they themselves can feel better about themselves. Assault is assault, in any way, shape or form. Does verbal assault grab headlines like physical assault does? Nope, but that does not make it any less real. You can try and justify that however you want.

Violence is not always the answer, I will grant that, but there is one simple fact that even you have to agree to, it forces comprehension and understanding. Comprehension in the fact that you can only verbally assault someone for so long, then understanding by the fact that there is punishment for said transgression.

I have seen enough violence in my life to fill 10 lifetimes and committed enough violence on other humans that it sickens me to recall some of the things that I am responsible for. I did these various different things in the name of my government while I was enlisted, but that does not relieve me of the burden that I will carry for the rest of my life ... knowing what I am capable of.

I appreciate the thoughtfulness you have obviously applied to your life experience. I just think you've come to the wrong conclusion.

I'm aware that insulting can (sometimes) become verbal assault. People who seem to feel a duty be demeaning (I think I despise this type of person as much as you do) do not justify people (yourself apparently) who believe that is their right or duty to "force comprehension and understanding" via threats of force or to be the arbitrator deciding what is the "punishment for said transgression".

I fully support self defense when violence is imminent or threatened. However, escalation via threats is not self defense and the duty of applying (or threatening) punishment is not the job of the non-deputized/enlisted/commissioned citizen.

Further, as someone who is trained in violence and fully aware of what you are "capable of", it is even more inappropriate (and more legally transgressive) to threaten violence.

 Alfndrate wrote:

I have two similar dice related stories.

I was playing 40k with someone during an Apoc game. His Nazi and SS themed IG army (complete with appropriately themed Flames of War dice) was getting hammered, he couldn't make a cover save and couldn't wound a thing. He gets angry and chucks a die out the door. We see it fly up into the air and hit a power line (would have gone into the street otherwise). We run out to see where it lands, and I jokingly told him, "If this is a 5 or a 6, I'll count the cover save." We found it a minute or two later and it was a 6...

I have not experienced the full account of this story, but one of the Flames of War players at my FLGS had bought a new set of dice on 2 occasions. The first occasion, they rolled so badly he went and flushed them down the toilet. The second occasion he took them home, and did a home episode of "Will it Blend?" blended up his dice and put them into a mason jar. Whenever he gets a new set of dice, he shakes this jar over his new dice so they will know there fate. He has pulled it out during a game when he was starting to have poor luck...

Did you actually stand by that cover save?
And thanks for the tip-my dice have been very bad recently

I was hoping for this thread!
I was at the FLGS today playing a 2650 game with my brother, and behind us were some war machine players.

Long story Short, this big dude was losing miserably and began yelling at this frail kid, whom proceeded to back into the wall and tremble, concede the game and pack up and dip.

I have never in my life been so ashamed to be a gamer. This older guy was so upset he was losing a game which was very friendly at the start, ended so poorly.

Kavik_Whitescar wrote:
I was hoping for this thread!
I was at the FLGS today playing a 2650 game with my brother, and behind us were some war machine players.

Long story Short, this big dude was losing miserably and began yelling at this frail kid, whom proceeded to back into the wall and tremble, concede the game and pack up and dip.

I have never in my life been so ashamed to be a gamer. This older guy was so upset he was losing a game which was very friendly at the start, ended so poorly.

wow, what a complete arse. This is why we gamers have such a terribad reputation.

Kavik_Whitescar wrote:
I was hoping for this thread!
I was at the FLGS today playing a 2650 game with my brother, and behind us were some war machine players.

Long story Short, this big dude was losing miserably and began yelling at this frail kid, whom proceeded to back into the wall and tremble, concede the game and pack up and dip.

I have never in my life been so ashamed to be a gamer. This older guy was so upset he was losing a game which was very friendly at the start, ended so poorly.

That's horrid. Feel sorry for the kid, hope that his confidence isn't knocked so much that he won't continue playing.

 master of ordinance wrote:
Did you actually stand by that cover save?
And thanks for the tip-my dice have been very bad recently

Of course I did, I had him on the ropes, why would I be an arse about it?

I had one game of Warmachine at a tournament.

It wasn't a case of rage-quite, just rage at bad dice rolls.


So, this game just did not go his way.

First, he fully loads up both his Jacks. A Sphinx and a Phoenix.

The Sphinx charges my Revenger but he kinda forgot about the Repulser shield and only went to max reach range. So one attack and he bounces away with nothing else to do.

So then he Concentrated Power's his Phoenix and easily charges the Avatar.

Anything but snake eyes to hit of course.

Charge attack. Miss! Ok, that figures but hey he's got 2 more Focus!

Fist attack. Hits and does 4 damage. Not bad for a fist attack.

Buys an attack with the sword. Miss! Its not funny anymore at this point.

Buys last attack. Miss! Much rage was had. The Avatar of course rolled 4 Focus next turn and easily dispatches the Phoenix.


Anyway, my turn stuff happens and I put Enliven on the Avatar.

His turn. The Sphinx doesn't derp this turn and gets 2 solid hits on the Revenger then his Sentinels come in to finish the job. He finishes his turn and such by running his 2 Mage Hunter Assassins close to Harby(they couldn't charge her but could run)

Now he's down to 2 Ghost Snipers. He activates 1 of them and decides there is nothing better to do so he plinks the Avatar. Enliven triggers. And I notice that Garryth is sitting behind a wall with literally nothing between him and the Avatar. So up I go to sit within easy charge range of him. Well now he's done it! So all he can do is run his last Ghost Sniper to feebly block the Avatar's charge.


Well, this guy just couldn't catch a break. Harbinger is unphased by the Mage Hunters as she just calmly walks over and punks one with her sword and one with Cataclysm. "Wait, she automatically hits???"

The Avatar of course rolled 4 Focus. Choir battle hymn up. Vassal Ancillary Attacks him to punk that poor Ghost Sniper. And the Avatar walks up to Garryth, reaches over and makes an attack.

Him- "K, I'm defense 18 behind the wall"

Me- "Yeah, I only need 8s because I'm Mat10"

'Him- "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU..."

Avatar boosts to hit and, with Dice+7 for damage, lops Garryth's head off in a single blow.

I defeated someone in a settlers of catan. And they just started flat out crying. They flipped over the board and everything. It was a girl, one of my friends. Yeah I ain't playing with her on any board games.

We held a Summer long campaign at our LGS about 10 years ago, which would at that time put me in my mid teens. I played drop Templars back then and the Imperial side was losing the campaign badly. My Templars were tasked with a one-way suicide drop mission to slay the Chaos Warlord.

My Opponent: 40something, Massive man, known to clear rooms after eating chinese. Known by various nicknames: Grandfather Nurgle, Flatulence, but my personal favorite is Ku'Gath

Set-Up: The entire board is set up with gigantic bunkers, fortifications, etc. and there are dice marking his units (he would place his units once I was in line of sight of the dice) He had a 2500 point force, I had a 2000 point force. I took a Callidus Assassin (back when she showed up anywhere on the board and could assault the turn she arrived)

Throughout the game, my army dropped in piecemeal, and while inflicting some damage it was clear that I was getting dominated. On turn 5 (of 6) my Callidus finally shows up and I am debating where to place her, as I have yet to reveal his hidden warlord. I walked in a circle around the board and only then notice a small unassuming bunker with dice on top that I could not possibly have seen on my side of the board. I place her outside the bunker door forcing him to reveal the warlord inside. ALONE.

At this point there are about 15-20 people watching the game, all interested parties that had been taking part in the campaign.. The campaign organizer and everyone in the store go dead silent. I assault and kill the warlord and the gentleman goes absolutely bonkers. This was a man who played an iron warriors army that only ever required him to stand up out of his chair to go the bathroom. He rises from his perch like some beast awakened from a deep slumber and proceeds to threaten to flip the table, stringing together expletives that at that point I had only heard whispered in the hallways at school. He threw a vindicator against the shelves, tore the campaign map from the wall and declared a tactical withdrawl from the sector of the entire Chaos force. He finished by vowing to never play me again, if we were paired in a tournament he would forfeit his game.

It was glorious. In one fell swoop I had turned the tide of the campaign and to this day at the store they still tell the new guys the story about how I got Ku'Gath to stand up and nerd rage mid game. A few years later, at a different store we were paired up in round 2 of an RTT (official one too, with the gryphon trophy) and promptly forfeited the game, I went on to lose to the eventual winner in round 3.

Epic, just epic.


There was an Eldar player that came to our club for a while.

We have a monthly tournament and whenever he came he would always quit if he lost in the first round. Meaning our judge would have to break out his Dark Eldar to play the odd man out.

We jokingly said he should have his Dark Eldar in a glass case with printing on the front that said "in case of rage-quit, break glass"

I have never truly raged in wargaming, persay (mostly 40k for me and my mates ), but I will admit, I have had plenty a sulk. Usually against our DE player who loads all of his kabalites/wyches into raiders/venoms, and proceeds to put out 22 BS4 Poisoned 4+ shots on my guys that I almost never survive. I have been doing a bit better against him lately (now that I have started Tau ), but it kinda sucks when you have about 5 models on the field while he has almost everything intact, and he insists on finishing the game. I was ready to unconditionally surrender, and he wanted to get off the last few shots... That's the kind of thing that gets to me.

One of my other buddies has an old, metal Bloodthirster. Can't do anything to put it together; not hot glue nor super glue works. He then proceeded to chuck it across the room. He didn't rage during anything that was happening in the game, but over a model that wouldn't be put together. He laughs about it in hindsight, though he still can't get it put together.

 master of ordinance wrote:
wow, what a complete arse. This is why we gamers have such a terribad reputation.

Only to people who are happy to attach a negative image through association for any meager slight.

In any group of 2 or more people, there are good odds at least one of them is a donkey-cave.

When talking about "gamers", a group that consists of millions (hundreds of millions?) of people around the world, I guarantee there are plenty of donkey-caves to go around. This thread has already had a fair share of stereotypes, from the 'grown men getting angry over toy soldiers' to the 'real life trolling' to the 'noob slaughter' and more. No different from bad behaviour in any number of sports, games, or other hobby genres.

Not that this excuses bad behaviour. I just don't agree with statements along the lines of "this is why ______s have such a bad reputation". It reflects poorly on the person, first and foremost. While outsiders may append this negativity to all gamers around the world, doing so is being a donkey-cave on their own at the same time. Judging everyone who plays a game based on the actions of one person isn't a reasonable thing to do, even if many are inclined towards doing so.

 Asherian Command wrote:
I defeated someone in a settlers of catan. And they just started flat out crying. They flipped over the board and everything. It was a girl, one of my friends. Yeah I ain't playing with her on any board games.

I'd cry too if I had to sit through a game of Catan.

Used to do it a lot in games of Risk and Monopoly but that's about it.

 Mulletdude wrote:
*snip*

Well, first, a lot of the things tau can do are bullgak, so the guy was right there and the biggest thing that tends to make people rage in a game is denial of their abilities. Everyone has their army, they like what it does, and they like that it does it well. Now they take that army and they find out that they person they are playing either ignores or counters their abilities. This immediately puts the person at a disadvantage and takes away a fun aspect. I know that I will rarely have a fun game if I encounter the following:
HeroClix: Power Cosmic
Warmahordes: Cryx, sometimes Legion
Magic: Blue Counter decks (or some variation)
40k: Tau, Grey Knights (only because they do well against my chaos army), Necrons, or Eldar

It's not that I won't play against these lists/decks, it's just that I know I will have a less fun game because of it. There are some people that will become unhinged when their fun becomes 0. When my fun becomes 0, I thank the person for the game, tell them I just wasn't having any fun and politely pack up my stuff and suggest playing something else the following week.

heh. The most fun I had playing Star Wars CCG was a bs Timer Mine deck with lots of undercover spies. It kept the opponent from force draining at locations and my mines could blow up vehicles and people at locations. I'd toss in a few space ships for fun. It rarely won, but it caused much rage and frustration!

 kronk wrote:
heh. The most fun I had playing Star Wars CCG was a bs Timer Mine deck with lots of undercover spies. It kept the opponent from force draining at locations and my mines could blow up vehicles and people at locations. I'd toss in a few space ships for fun. It rarely one, but it caused much rage and frustration!

me ane a friend did something similar with mtg. He had a treefolk deck and I had a white soldier deck. Are game would last for over an hour and it was even odds on who would when what with all the life gain we both had.

Ztryder wrote:
We held a Summer long campaign at our LGS about 10 years ago, which would at that time put me in my mid teens. I played drop Templars back then and the Imperial side was losing the campaign badly. My Templars were tasked with a one-way suicide drop mission to slay the Chaos Warlord.

My Opponent: 40something, Massive man, known to clear rooms after eating chinese. Known by various nicknames: Grandfather Nurgle, Flatulence, but my personal favorite is Ku'Gath

Set-Up: The entire board is set up with gigantic bunkers, fortifications, etc. and there are dice marking his units (he would place his units once I was in line of sight of the dice) He had a 2500 point force, I had a 2000 point force. I took a Callidus Assassin (back when she showed up anywhere on the board and could assault the turn she arrived)

Throughout the game, my army dropped in piecemeal, and while inflicting some damage it was clear that I was getting dominated. On turn 5 (of 6) my Callidus finally shows up and I am debating where to place her, as I have yet to reveal his hidden warlord. I walked in a circle around the board and only then notice a small unassuming bunker with dice on top that I could not possibly have seen on my side of the board. I place her outside the bunker door forcing him to reveal the warlord inside. ALONE.

At this point there are about 15-20 people watching the game, all interested parties that had been taking part in the campaign.. The campaign organizer and everyone in the store go dead silent. I assault and kill the warlord and the gentleman goes absolutely bonkers. This was a man who played an iron warriors army that only ever required him to stand up out of his chair to go the bathroom. He rises from his perch like some beast awakened from a deep slumber and proceeds to threaten to flip the table, stringing together expletives that at that point I had only heard whispered in the hallways at school. He threw a vindicator against the shelves, tore the campaign map from the wall and declared a tactical withdrawl from the sector of the entire Chaos force. He finished by vowing to never play me again, if we were paired in a tournament he would forfeit his game.

It was glorious. In one fell swoop I had turned the tide of the campaign and to this day at the store they still tell the new guys the story about how I got Ku'Gath to stand up and nerd rage mid game. A few years later, at a different store we were paired up in round 2 of an RTT (official one too, with the gryphon trophy) and promptly forfeited the game, I went on to lose to the eventual winner in round 3.

Have an Exalt for that

So my buddies and I were playing a 2v2, space wolves and necrons (just after their codex drop) vs dark angels (me) and blood angels. We were still playing 5th ed and we were playing on 3'x6' table deploying on long edges for whatever reason.

Turn one the necron player moves three monolyths toward, takes and few shots, blows the Lascannon off the FOR. So then it was our turn, I move up three MM land speeders and blow up 2 out of the three monolyths, my dev squad Lascannons kills the last one. The blood angels player drove a single Landraider up with Mephiston almost to assault range. Next turn the necron player tries to go around the land raider with an hq the gets back, fails, Mephiston kills him with a plasma pistol. He gets back up to have Mephiston assault him and kill him again. The kid already pissed off about being neutered goes to slam his HQ sees Mephiston there and stops inches about the models. He moves Mephiston, slames his model, picks his model up and throws it on the ground. Then walks over to it and smashes it into the carpet with his foot like someone would out out a cigarette.

He hasn't played since, that was also the decline of my gaming group playing 40k sadly.

Scorpiodragon wrote:


goes to slam his HQ sees Mephiston there and stops inches about the models. He moves Mephiston, slames his model, picks his model up and throws it on the ground.

Well, at least he's a gentleman.

Pretty much all of mine happened in 3rd edition 40k.

During a campaign the first week of play I had a Space wolf player tear apart my army, but because we were playing for table quarters it was a technical draw. He got pissed that it was a draw with a "if you want to play it that way" argument. I didn't learn until a month later that he reported this game as a win for himself when the campaign organizer announced him and one other guy as finalists for first place as they both had won all their games.

Guy #2 was pissed that during the first turn of a game I had one Necron Warrior within 24 inches of his hammerhead. I had one shot, and nothing better to do, so I rolled, hit, glanced, and destroyed the hammerhead. Swearing insued.

Guy#3 was playing his Tau against my Necron. We rolled for a mission and came up with a scenario that should have me hard-pressed for a win. To win with my Necrons had to cross 36 inches in 6 turns (footslogging) while still gaining more victory points than the Tau. He gets first turn. He fails to scratch a Monolith using a hammerhead and three Broadsides. All I loose (after we'll be back) is ONE Destroyer. The monolith kills a squad of kroot, the Destroyers and a unit of immortals kill his crisis suit unit (with commander), and a VoD lord and warrior unit kills off all the broadsides. He instantly packs his things up while shouting about how cheesy Necrons are.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Never rage at your opponent, especially if they are young.

If the kid is annoying, and his mother is close to my age, single, and hot, I just turn on the charm, take her out on a date, and then eventually become his stepdad.

Then, take away his toys.

The best revenge is that dealt cold, through years of work, and sleeping with their mother.

I take it you speak from experience?

It can work fairly well. I had one guy who repeatedly said he didn't want to play a game with me. So I nailed his sister. I was 23 at the time, she was 18. He hated me even more after that. I was always nice to him...although I was nicer to his sister.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Guy #2 was pissed that during the first turn of a game I had one Necron Warrior within 24 inches of his hammerhead. I had one shot, and nothing better to do, so I rolled, hit, glanced, and destroyed the hammerhead. Swearing insued.

In his defense, I'm pretty sure I'd be spewing a little profanity if one measly Necron Warrior destroyed a Hammerhead with one lucky shot.

 Locclo wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Guy #2 was pissed that during the first turn of a game I had one Necron Warrior within 24 inches of his hammerhead. I had one shot, and nothing better to do, so I rolled, hit, glanced, and destroyed the hammerhead. Swearing insued.

In his defense, I'm pretty sure I'd be spewing a little profanity if one measly Necron Warrior destroyed a Hammerhead with one lucky shot.

This happened to my friend. We were both learning how to play and so we entered into an escalation league at our local store. First round, 500 points, dawn of war deployment back in 5th edition. My buddy was up against an IG list with a bunch of guys and a Leman Russ. Buddy deploys one troop of Necron Warriors at the very edge of his deployment zone (so halfway across the board) and parks his guys on a hill. His turn is uneventful and his opponent rolls onto the board and drops a pie plate onto the Necron Warriors, one warrior survives, shoots the Russ and immobilizes it. Next turn does it again... the IG player had a rough night, my Tyranids ate every guardsman on the board in our game too...

On one of my trips to the UK I played some Magic with the locals at a Clubstore, just some casual games with basic cards, as im not a big fan of "veteran" Magic.

Anyways, a few tables over there was a young couple, the guy playing against an older Dude. Guy had his Girlfriend with him and she had appearantly helped paint some of the models, they were casually talking over the game, discussing about what models they wanted to paint next.

The older man seemed to be pretty pissed that his opponent wasnt focusing his complete attention on the game, and talked in a pretty angry tone. GF seemed taken aback by this, but didnt say anything, her boyfriend stayed calm as well. Cue around an hour later, I was just trading some cards with the other people, when older guy appearantly flipped his "Loosing my mind"-switch.

They were arguing about a dice roll he made, appearantly it landed off table. Older Guy had announced a 6 and picked it up before anyone had a chance to confirm the roll. The younger man was still talking politely and tried to stay calm, which was amazing to me as his opponent not only raised his voice constantly, but was now also talking smack over the game.

Eventually, the Girlfriend stepped in an asked the guy to please calm the feth down and stop acting so childish. The response was "Im not talking to you, b***". I want to note, im pretty sure that guy wasnt sexist or anything, probably just angry and not very creative with his insults.

This was the line. The guy stood up and demanded he'd take it back, or face the consequences. It was uttered in a tone that made everyone inside the club turn his head, mouth agape as this was the first time he had spoken up. Old Guy tried to be the tough guy and didnt take it back, whereafter the couple started grabbing their soldiers from the table and packing up.

A lot of people in the Club were giving the older gentleman bad looks, and he got even more upset. Without looking he slammed his hand down on the table asking them to wait. His hand slammed down directly on top of one of his vehicles, snapping of a turrent and damaging the table below.

He was angrily muttering, until the couple was gone and he had to pay the owner for the damage. After he left the building I saw him slamming the damaged tank into a Trashcan.

I saw him on one other occassion, where he accidentally broke one of the houses in the Club that was used as terrain, again because he was throwing a hissy fit.

 wowsmash wrote:

 kronk wrote:
heh. The most fun I had playing Star Wars CCG was a bs Timer Mine deck with lots of undercover spies. It kept the opponent from force draining at locations and my mines could blow up vehicles and people at locations. I'd toss in a few space ships for fun. It rarely one, but it caused much rage and frustration!

me ane a friend did something similar with mtg. He had a treefolk deck and I had a white soldier deck. Are game would last for over an hour and it was even odds on who would when what with all the life gain we both had.

I was playing Magic with a friend at school, back in the days of 4th edition or so, and he managed to pull off that one 'Sacrifice an orinthopter, resurrect it, have a net gain in mana, repeat' combo, and use it to fuel a disintegrate, 'for infinite damage.'

For once in my life, I managed to keep a poker face, and said, 'Just give me a number so we can make this official."

He replied with '70,000,000,020,' and that was when I dropped a reverse damage. This was in the days before, 'denied!' was a thing, but that would've been highly appropriate. Turned an interesting shade of red as he realized how his total victory had turned into irreversible defeat so fast.

fething Epic!

I had a small army from when Warmachine had just came out, after a few games I completely shelved it as I realized that I really hated the way the game played. (casterkill wee!!)

For a couple years my "friend" has had a complete hard on for the game and kept pushing me to retry it claiming 2.0 had fixed SOOO much of what was wrong with the game and that if I'd just give it a try I'd totally love it. (He's also the guy who smashed his ork boss in my earlier post) He's an overly aggressive player and brings a super refined hard core tourney list to friendly games which only compounded my dislike for the game. He's the stereo-type power gamer and rules monger who's so abrasive he causes other players to quit the game in droves, no matter what game he's actively playing. He's known to all the locals as "Oh Yeah that guy...."

We play and of course he beats the pants off of me, which I was expecting as I have massively outdated units from the beginning of 1st ed and barely know how to play. At first I'm pretty cool but as we're leaving the store he launches into a fanboy flurry Isn't the game better? isn't it great? isn't warmachine awesome? huh? huh? huh?(cue halo awesome reach style excitement) basically acting like he's going to nerdgasm he's so happy about the game.

I look at him and say "here's what I think... " I reach into my jacket pocket take out my destroyer warjack and fling it across the street as hard as I can (aiming for the nearby railroad tracks) I throw him as hard as I can but my aim is piss poor due to my back pack and the model hits the pavement about 8 ft away but has enough force that it skids across 3 lanes to the neighboring curb where it makes a nice spark and explodes into pieces. My friend is completely shocked and tries to shuffle across the street in order to recover the parts. Then I take my minis box out of my bag and dump the rest of my models in a trash can before getting into my car. He freaks out and starts trying to fish the models out of the trash can and I yell at him if he doesn't leave my stuff alone he's being left behind and will have to walk home (which was about 20 miles). He gets in the car and starts to get all huffy about the models when I cut him off and say; in case you somehow missed it.... F* warmachine!.

It was a very quiet ride home.



.

I want that on a t-shirt.

feth Warmachine. Yeehaw!

 Portugal Jones wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:

 kronk wrote:
heh. The most fun I had playing Star Wars CCG was a bs Timer Mine deck with lots of undercover spies. It kept the opponent from force draining at locations and my mines could blow up vehicles and people at locations. I'd toss in a few space ships for fun. It rarely one, but it caused much rage and frustration!

me ane a friend did something similar with mtg. He had a treefolk deck and I had a white soldier deck. Are game would last for over an hour and it was even odds on who would when what with all the life gain we both had.

I was playing Magic with a friend at school, back in the days of 4th edition or so, and he managed to pull off that one 'Sacrifice an orinthopter, resurrect it, have a net gain in mana, repeat' combo, and use it to fuel a disintegrate, 'for infinite damage.'

For once in my life, I managed to keep a poker face, and said, 'Just give me a number so we can make this official."

He replied with '70,000,000,020,' and that was when I dropped a reverse damage. This was in the days before, 'denied!' was a thing, but that would've been highly appropriate. Turned an interesting shade of red as he realized how his total victory had turned into irreversible defeat so fast.

Not to sure what this means, but it sounds epic.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 Portugal Jones wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:

 kronk wrote:
heh. The most fun I had playing Star Wars CCG was a bs Timer Mine deck with lots of undercover spies. It kept the opponent from force draining at locations and my mines could blow up vehicles and people at locations. I'd toss in a few space ships for fun. It rarely one, but it caused much rage and frustration!

me ane a friend did something similar with mtg. He had a treefolk deck and I had a white soldier deck. Are game would last for over an hour and it was even odds on who would when what with all the life gain we both had.

I was playing Magic with a friend at school, back in the days of 4th edition or so, and he managed to pull off that one 'Sacrifice an orinthopter, resurrect it, have a net gain in mana, repeat' combo, and use it to fuel a disintegrate, 'for infinite damage.'

For once in my life, I managed to keep a poker face, and said, 'Just give me a number so we can make this official."

He replied with '70,000,000,020,' and that was when I dropped a reverse damage. This was in the days before, 'denied!' was a thing, but that would've been highly appropriate. Turned an interesting shade of red as he realized how his total victory had turned into irreversible defeat so fast.

Not to sure what this means, but it sounds epic.

The goal is to reduce opponents life from 20 to zero. His opponent used a combo that allowed him to cast a spell with infinite mana (game resource) to do infinity damage. He responded with http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=83132 turning that infinite damage into infinite life.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 Portugal Jones wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:

 kronk wrote:
heh. The most fun I had playing Star Wars CCG was a bs Timer Mine deck with lots of undercover spies. It kept the opponent from force draining at locations and my mines could blow up vehicles and people at locations. I'd toss in a few space ships for fun. It rarely one, but it caused much rage and frustration!

me ane a friend did something similar with mtg. He had a treefolk deck and I had a white soldier deck. Are game would last for over an hour and it was even odds on who would when what with all the life gain we both had.

I was playing Magic with a friend at school, back in the days of 4th edition or so, and he managed to pull off that one 'Sacrifice an orinthopter, resurrect it, have a net gain in mana, repeat' combo, and use it to fuel a disintegrate, 'for infinite damage.'

For once in my life, I managed to keep a poker face, and said, 'Just give me a number so we can make this official."

He replied with '70,000,000,020,' and that was when I dropped a reverse damage. This was in the days before, 'denied!' was a thing, but that would've been highly appropriate. Turned an interesting shade of red as he realized how his total victory had turned into irreversible defeat so fast.

Not to sure what this means, but it sounds epic.

It's a situation like where all you have to do is have one squad of terminators blow up a trukk with one grot inside to table your opponent and win the game. There's almost no way you could possibly lose, until the trukk blows up in assault, wounding all your terminators, who fail their saves, and then the grot waltzes out untouched. Such a sudden, complete turn around is... vexing.

Ztryder wrote:
We held a Summer long campaign at our LGS about 10 years ago, which would at that time put me in my mid teens. I played drop Templars back then and the Imperial side was losing the campaign badly. My Templars were tasked with a one-way suicide drop mission to slay the Chaos Warlord.

My Opponent: 40something, Massive man, known to clear rooms after eating chinese. Known by various nicknames: Grandfather Nurgle, Flatulence, but my personal favorite is Ku'Gath

Set-Up: The entire board is set up with gigantic bunkers, fortifications, etc. and there are dice marking his units (he would place his units once I was in line of sight of the dice) He had a 2500 point force, I had a 2000 point force. I took a Callidus Assassin (back when she showed up anywhere on the board and could assault the turn she arrived)

Throughout the game, my army dropped in piecemeal, and while inflicting some damage it was clear that I was getting dominated. On turn 5 (of 6) my Callidus finally shows up and I am debating where to place her, as I have yet to reveal his hidden warlord. I walked in a circle around the board and only then notice a small unassuming bunker with dice on top that I could not possibly have seen on my side of the board. I place her outside the bunker door forcing him to reveal the warlord inside. ALONE.

At this point there are about 15-20 people watching the game, all interested parties that had been taking part in the campaign.. The campaign organizer and everyone in the store go dead silent. I assault and kill the warlord and the gentleman goes absolutely bonkers. This was a man who played an iron warriors army that only ever required him to stand up out of his chair to go the bathroom. He rises from his perch like some beast awakened from a deep slumber and proceeds to threaten to flip the table, stringing together expletives that at that point I had only heard whispered in the hallways at school. He threw a vindicator against the shelves, tore the campaign map from the wall and declared a tactical withdrawl from the sector of the entire Chaos force. He finished by vowing to never play me again, if we were paired in a tournament he would forfeit his game.

It was glorious. In one fell swoop I had turned the tide of the campaign and to this day at the store they still tell the new guys the story about how I got Ku'Gath to stand up and nerd rage mid game. A few years later, at a different store we were paired up in round 2 of an RTT (official one too, with the gryphon trophy) and promptly forfeited the game, I went on to lose to the eventual winner in round 3.

THAT. WAS. BRILLIANT!

As for Rage stories. I'll confess of being a bad rager myself. I oncesent a few Starter set Dark Angels flying when I threw a water bottle in fury. But then again I had taken a basic marine squad spam against my bro's Thousand Sons. Ended up just quiting outright. In my defense I've almost always played Orks and have yet to lose as them. So losing was a very new thing in 40K to me

This is in a Pathfinder society game.
Im playing an ifrit gunslinger with a +11 initiative so Im often going first. Now guns hit touch AC(Meaning I ignore armor bonuses) And im firing 2 shots. So I go first in the final battle of a small scenario. I hit with a nat 20 and do x4 damage so I one shot the guy. Everyone thinks it is cool, Im just one shotting a guy while monologuing boss. Not this guy and his little kid. Playing character who often went last so they didnt do much. They get mad at me, saying im hogging t spot like and made his kid cry because they didnt get to do anything. The GM steps into defend me and get clocked. My friend who is a bouncer Then lifts the guy by the collar and tosses him out

 paulson games wrote:
I had a small army from when Warmachine had just came out, after a few games I completely shelved it as I realized that I really hated the way the game played. (casterkill wee!!)

For a couple years my "friend" has had a complete hard on for the game and kept pushing me to retry it claiming 2.0 had fixed SOOO much of what was wrong with the game and that if I'd just give it a try I'd totally love it. (He's also the guy who smashed his ork boss in my earlier post) He's an overly aggressive player and brings a super refined hard core tourney list to friendly games which only compounded my dislike for the game. He's the stereo-type power gamer and rules monger who's so abrasive he causes other players to quit the game in droves, no matter what game he's actively playing. He's known to all the locals as "Oh Yeah that guy...."

We play and of course he beats the pants off of me, which I was expecting as I have massively outdated units from the beginning of 1st ed and barely know how to play. At first I'm pretty cool but as we're leaving the store he launches into a fanboy flurry Isn't the game better? isn't it great? isn't warmachine awesome? huh? huh? huh?(cue halo awesome reach style excitement) basically acting like he's going to nerdgasm he's so happy about the game.

I look at him and say "here's what I think... " I reach into my jacket pocket take out my destroyer warjack and fling it across the street as hard as I can (aiming for the nearby railroad tracks) I throw him as hard as I can but my aim is piss poor due to my back pack and the model hits the pavement about 8 ft away but has enough force that it skids across 3 lanes to the neighboring curb where it makes a nice spark and explodes into pieces. My friend is completely shocked and tries to shuffle across the street in order to recover the parts. Then I take my minis box out of my bag and dump the rest of my models in a trash can before getting into my car. He freaks out and starts trying to fish the models out of the trash can and I yell at him if he doesn't leave my stuff alone he's being left behind and will have to walk home (which was about 20 miles). He gets in the car and starts to get all huffy about the models when I cut him off and say; in case you somehow missed it.... F* warmachine!.

It was a very quiet ride home..

I like your style.

 marielle wrote:

 paulson games wrote:
I had a small army from when Warmachine had just came out, after a few games I completely shelved it as I realized that I really hated the way the game played. (casterkill wee!!)

For a couple years my "friend" has had a complete hard on for the game and kept pushing me to retry it claiming 2.0 had fixed SOOO much of what was wrong with the game and that if I'd just give it a try I'd totally love it. (He's also the guy who smashed his ork boss in my earlier post) He's an overly aggressive player and brings a super refined hard core tourney list to friendly games which only compounded my dislike for the game. He's the stereo-type power gamer and rules monger who's so abrasive he causes other players to quit the game in droves, no matter what game he's actively playing. He's known to all the locals as "Oh Yeah that guy...."

We play and of course he beats the pants off of me, which I was expecting as I have massively outdated units from the beginning of 1st ed and barely know how to play. At first I'm pretty cool but as we're leaving the store he launches into a fanboy flurry Isn't the game better? isn't it great? isn't warmachine awesome? huh? huh? huh?(cue halo awesome reach style excitement) basically acting like he's going to nerdgasm he's so happy about the game.

I look at him and say "here's what I think... " I reach into my jacket pocket take out my destroyer warjack and fling it across the street as hard as I can (aiming for the nearby railroad tracks) I throw him as hard as I can but my aim is piss poor due to my back pack and the model hits the pavement about 8 ft away but has enough force that it skids across 3 lanes to the neighboring curb where it makes a nice spark and explodes into pieces. My friend is completely shocked and tries to shuffle across the street in order to recover the parts. Then I take my minis box out of my bag and dump the rest of my models in a trash can before getting into my car. He freaks out and starts trying to fish the models out of the trash can and I yell at him if he doesn't leave my stuff alone he's being left behind and will have to walk home (which was about 20 miles). He gets in the car and starts to get all huffy about the models when I cut him off and say; in case you somehow missed it.... F* warmachine!.

It was a very quiet ride home..

I like your style.

It seems pretty immature, even if the other guy is pretty immature as well.

I for one prefer ragers over fanboys. So I like his style too

This one time I was playing with a group of people. And we were playing a card game called diplomacy.

And this one couple, literally made it their quest to win the game. I have never lost a game of diplomacy. Let me make that clear. So they start becoming really really competitive I mean, like cut throaters. So they start attacking each other with hexes and both them started losing all of their victory points, I mean all of their victory points and started trying to sabotage every other player in the game. I on the other hand had begun to build a suit able amount of resources and victory points, because I had moats and anti-hexes and I had developed good counter measures just incase that happened..

It came down to the final turn, and I Hexed everyone, because I could. And i won the game.

They went batgak insane. They called me a few really bad words and said that I cheated. They started yelling inconstineces and whatever, and I am just sitting there, wondering, Well they aren't coming back for another game next week.

I honestly didn't care, and it showed me that they are terrible gamers and they are not coming back to another game night. Ever again. So at the end of their yelling, I just said the following. "Who wants to watch a movie!"

I am one of the people who I may smile on the outside, but in the inside I plot my vengeance.

this is a recant occcurance, I started playing a Pathfinder game with some friends and ran a wonky Paladin, just because this was an inexperinced group and it was fun. I ran an Atlantian Paladin with a ton of personal flaws (I didnt trust the white man), Basically a play on Native American witch doctor who was suddenly blessed and doesnt quite understand his abilities. Long story short, We ran into a creature that blinded one of the party members, and after the conflict I tried to help. (lay on hands in this game was as simple as touching another player) I proceeded to pin the player to the ground (with the help of the party, and making sure to note I never used my hands to touch them) and tried to cut their eye out, (witch doctor voodo stuff) The second I placed my hand on the players face to use the knife my Lay on hands ability activated curing her blindness, only for her to have her eye cut out.

She rage so hard, because her ranger was obsessed with beauty and looking good.....

I have a good DM....and one less friend :3

Great stories in here

My brother has the tendancy to throw stuff if the game isn't going his way. Dice are the most common thing, but sometimes even miniatures get thrown around. It is rather enjoyable to watch although awkward at the same time.Other than that, he is a very relaxed person when the game is going smoothly.

Another story, not really rage related, is about my mate who lost terribly in a 5,000 points 40k battle of his Eldar against my Rebel Grots (who count as Orks rule-wise). I had 2 Stompa's and he fielded a Titan and a Cobra Super Heavy tank (I believe it is called). He made two mistakes which cost him the game; He moved his Titan when he should have stayed put (4 weapon destroyed and 2 wounds made it a very expensive statue in turn 3), and his Cobra didn't see any action (well it saw action, but didn't participate in it) while it was very swiftly destroyed. He actually sold the Cobra not long after that battle (although he kept the Statue...I mean...Titan).

Good times

Kind regards,

Low

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
It seems pretty immature, even if the other guy is pretty immature as well.

I make no claims to my sainthood. It was completely immature but also a result of months of him pestering and jabbing me to play "THE BEST GAME EVAR!!!!!!" and drink his special kool-aide. The guy has no ability to dial things down when it comes to gaming. It's your first game with random junk that you just bought? He'll make sure to break out his most refined tourney level list because he's a gentleman like that and he loves to get that gamer cherry. Best part is when he has a complete one sided victory in his favor he'll walk back through the game turn by turn to tell you what he did wrong and how he could have tabled you 1-2 turns earlier like a mini Napoleon. Never once will he actually explain rules or the turn sequence to the new guy, new guy makes a mistake in their first game ever? Sorry no backsies! They should have read their rulesbook.

It was one of the few times that it actually got through to him that other gamers out there might not like Warmachine and would rather throw away their minis than play with him. We've since stopped talking at all as the only thing he ever talks about is? ..... Warmachine to the exclusion of everything else. The dude needs to get a life.




Back when I was 14 I had a really bad game of battletech where I kept blowing roll after roll, I couldn't find my dice bag so I couldn't switch out the dice. The same dice kept rolling insanely well for my brother but giving me the worst possible luck. I missed the better part of 20 shots in a row, I only hit twice during the whole game. After the game I was really pissed so I dragged out the bbq grill and burned the two traitor dice so they could never be used again.


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A couple of years ago I played against this one dude and completely trashed his eldar army. He glowered for a moment. I just politely asked him if he wanted a rematch (I felt kinda bad, as I had used a somewhat cheesey list), and his response was to unzip his trousers and urinate all over our models!

He was promptly thrown out, but not until he had dumped a bucketload onto my army!

I redid the basing, but the smell still lingers to this day.

 paulson games wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
It seems pretty immature, even if the other guy is pretty immature as well.

I make no claims to my sainthood. It was completely immature but also a result of months of him pestering and jabbing me to play "THE BEST GAME EVAR!!!!!!" and drink his special kool-aide. The guy has no ability to dial things down when it comes to gaming. It's your first game with random junk that you just bought? He'll make sure to break out his most refined tourney level list because he's a gentleman like that and he loves to get that gamer cherry. Best part is when he has a complete one sided victory in his favor he'll walk back through the game turn by turn to tell you what he did wrong and how he could have tabled you 1-2 turns earlier like a mini Napoleon. Never once will he actually explain rules or the turn sequence to the new guy, new guy makes a mistake in their first game ever? Sorry no backsies! They should have read their rulesbook.
.

And how is any of the above the fault of Warmachine? All of the above is a asshat opponent; It does not matter what game you played against him. Also, no offence, but you seem utterly ignorant of how the game actually works (not least as a fair few of the Prime units you are so quick to condemn are actually still damn good) and the victory requirements. All of isn't "Hurr durr kill the casturr", there are scenarios in the Steamroller tournament packs (caster kill is still a victory condition, but not the only one) that involve securing zones on the board or capturing objectives for example.

Don't let an idiotic opponent colour your opinion of this game. After all what you did sounded childish and you've just cut off your nose to spite your face.

Cor, Warmachine players really don't like people not liking Warmachine, do they?!

Yeah, I knew that knee jerk reaction was gonna come

 monders wrote:
Cor, Warmachine players really don't like people not liking Warmachine, do they?!

 fishy bob wrote:
Yeah, I knew that knee jerk reaction was gonna come

Yes, that's exactly what I was implying.... Because throwing your toys out the pram (figuratively) and into the bin (literally!) are an appropriate reaction to an assclown of an opponent.

I've never even picked up the Warmachine rulebook, but how does anyone come down on the same side as the kid who threw a temper tantrum and broke his toys? That's really not condonable behavior, even before you're out of nappies.

Kavik_Whitescar wrote:

She rage so hard, because her ranger was obsessed with beauty and looking good.....

I have a good DM....and one less friend :3

No, she raged because that was a dumb feth awful thing to do. The fact you can't tell a good DM from a bad one is pretty telling. Here's a hint - in a game run by a good DM, you don't see one player F's character arbitrarily mutilate player B's character, just because Player F felt like being a dick.

You'll definitely be getting a mention the next time we do an 'awful gamers we''ve seen' thread, but I knew where this was heading as soon as you described the character - 'special' weird characters are one of the hallmarks of PNP game dumb fethers who ruin other players fun and justify it by whining, 'but that's what my character would do!'

If I claim not to care much for soup do you suddenly feel the need to tell me where I'm misjudging it?

Cause that's what a lot of players do both for 40k and warmachine. I think mechanically there are some improvements that warmachine offers as a game but there are elements that I really dislike, caster kill being one, the bell curve distortion of boosted dice being another. It's not simply about caster kill but also from elements like swordmaster and the power of infantry vs warjacks. I was drawn to the game because it promoted the image of being a robot combat game, yet game play revolved around everything but that, it focused on the infantry and casters. There's a reason people were referring to it as infantry-machine for a long time. I actually played the game a fair amount when 1st ed released and after several months I determined that I didn't care for the system due to it's pitfalls, it wasn't a knee jerk reaction. How I disposed of my models was a hate filled impulse move to shut up an uber fanboy, but it wasn't due to the result of that one single game but rather a history of disliking the game. His intensity was simply a catalyst to act on a decision I'd made about the game a long time before that night.

But because my personal tastes don't fall in line with the kool-aide drinkers I'm obviously mis-informed.




And for the record I'm not much of a fan of 40k's piss poor mechanics, the rules outright stink but what keeps me engaged is the background and visuals, warmachine's visuals were enough to get me to try the game but weren't strong enough to keep my interests and I could never get into the background so it give me no motivation to keep playing a system I dislike. Also how many games does somebody need to play before deciding they dislike a game? 2, 3, 5, 10, 20, 1,000? I'd played around 20 or so games under 1st ed, if that's not enough to determine that I like or dislike the game I'm not sure what would qualify.

I like soup.

 the shrouded lord wrote:
I like soup.

I bet you do

I could tell a ton of hilarious stories about others, but the truth is that I was often that freaking guy, myself. I'm working on it :(

 the shrouded lord wrote:
I like soup.

You monster.

 paulson games wrote:
Back when I was 14 I had a really bad game of battletech where I kept blowing roll after roll, I couldn't find my dice bag so I couldn't switch out the dice. The same dice kept rolling insanely well for my brother but giving me the worst possible luck. I missed the better part of 20 shots in a row, I only hit twice during the whole game. After the game I was really pissed so I dragged out the bbq grill and burned the two traitor dice so they could never be used again..

That's just immature


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 monders wrote:
Cor, Warmachine players really don't like people not liking Warmachine, do they?!

Justin Bieber fans are much the same way...

Kavik_Whitescar wrote:
this is a recant occcurance, I started playing a Pathfinder game with some friends and ran a wonky Paladin, just because this was an inexperinced group and it was fun. I ran an Atlantian Paladin with a ton of personal flaws (I didnt trust the white man), Basically a play on Native American witch doctor who was suddenly blessed and doesnt quite understand his abilities. Long story short, We ran into a creature that blinded one of the party members, and after the conflict I tried to help. (lay on hands in this game was as simple as touching another player) I proceeded to pin the player to the ground (with the help of the party, and making sure to note I never used my hands to touch them) and tried to cut their eye out, (witch doctor voodo stuff) The second I placed my hand on the players face to use the knife my Lay on hands ability activated curing her blindness, only for her to have her eye cut out.

She rage so hard, because her ranger was obsessed with beauty and looking good.....

I have a good DM....and one less friend :3

1. That's a bad DM.
2. We'd have kicked you from our group.
3. You're a bad person and you should feel bad.
4. I have no interest in playing anything with you. 40k, pathfinder, monopoly, Uno, nothing.

A lot of people misunderstand the nature of roleplaying games - indeed, ALL games.

Games are, by their very nature, a CO-OPERATIVE entertainment. So doing things that make it not-fun for other people in the group is nothing more than being a jerk.

"But it's what my character would do" does not excuse it. Even evil people often have friends they'd rather die than betray.

So save those jerk tendencies for making your hardcore tournament lists... and then leave them at home when you go to actually play in the tournament.


That is all...

 kronk wrote:

Kavik_Whitescar wrote:
this is a recant occcurance, I started playing a Pathfinder game with some friends and ran a wonky Paladin, just because this was an inexperinced group and it was fun. I ran an Atlantian Paladin with a ton of personal flaws (I didnt trust the white man), Basically a play on Native American witch doctor who was suddenly blessed and doesnt quite understand his abilities. Long story short, We ran into a creature that blinded one of the party members, and after the conflict I tried to help. (lay on hands in this game was as simple as touching another player) I proceeded to pin the player to the ground (with the help of the party, and making sure to note I never used my hands to touch them) and tried to cut their eye out, (witch doctor voodo stuff) The second I placed my hand on the players face to use the knife my Lay on hands ability activated curing her blindness, only for her to have her eye cut out.

She rage so hard, because her ranger was obsessed with beauty and looking good.....

I have a good DM....and one less friend :3

1. That's a bad DM.
2. We'd have kicked you from our group.
3. You're a bad person and you should feel bad.
4. I have no interest in playing anything with you. 40k, pathfinder, monopoly, Uno, nothing.

If a player acts like a jerk and hurts another player, wouldn't a good DM work it into the story, give the victim a chance to repair the damage and/or get revenge and teach the jerk a lesson?

e.g. The Ranger later meets a Sorcer who promises to magically heal her face in exchange for going on a quest and retrieving a magical relic?
And the Witch Doctor player triggers more traps than usual or gets cursed in some way.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Kavik_Whitescar wrote:
this is a recant occcurance, I started playing a Pathfinder game with some friends and ran a wonky Paladin, just because this was an inexperinced group and it was fun. I ran an Atlantian Paladin with a ton of personal flaws (I didnt trust the white man), Basically a play on Native American witch doctor who was suddenly blessed and doesnt quite understand his abilities. Long story short, We ran into a creature that blinded one of the party members, and after the conflict I tried to help. (lay on hands in this game was as simple as touching another player) I proceeded to pin the player to the ground (with the help of the party, and making sure to note I never used my hands to touch them) and tried to cut their eye out, (witch doctor voodo stuff) The second I placed my hand on the players face to use the knife my Lay on hands ability activated curing her blindness, only for her to have her eye cut out.

She rage so hard, because her ranger was obsessed with beauty and looking good.....

I have a good DM....and one less friend :3

1. That's a bad DM.
2. We'd have kicked you from our group.
3. You're a bad person and you should feel bad.
4. I have no interest in playing anything with you. 40k, pathfinder, monopoly, Uno, nothing.

If a player acts like a jerk and hurts another player, wouldn't a good DM work it into the story, give the victim a chance to repair the damage and/or get revenge and teach the jerk a lesson?

e.g. The Ranger later meets a Sorcer who promises to magically heal her face in exchange for going on a quest and retrieving a magical relic?
And the Witch Doctor player triggers more traps than usual or gets cursed in some way.

No, a good DM wouldn't allow that kind of crap in the first place, and the group would boot that player out because they're trolling the group.

WayneTheGame wrote:


No, a good DM wouldn't allow that kind of crap in the first place, and the group would boot that player out because they're trolling the group.

That, or just randomly murder their character. We had to do that to a guy in a 40k Dark Heresy campaign. He came down with a bout of getting jumped by a pack of randomly appearing Genestealers.

Well, it was on a Space Hulk, so was somewhat justified.

 paulson games wrote:
I. I was drawn to the game because it promoted the image of being a robot combat game, yet game play revolved around everything but that, it focused on the infantry and casters.

to be fair, i view it as somewhat flawed to see it as a "robot combat game". jacks might be war machines, but they're not WARMACHINE. I dont want to derail the thread, but as a brief off topic, jacks are rare. Irusks 4th assault batallion has 20,000 infantry, and 80 jacks. a handful of jacks, with a solid backbone of infantry fits the world, im afraid. the second issue revolves around the premise of it being all about the robots. We both know another game where the apparent stars of the franchise (ie space marines) have half the codices, most of the fluff, and models dedicated to a force that in the background, comprises a tiny amount of it. I'd argue 40k suffers from the huge over emphasis on space marines. in the same way, warmachine would suffer with a huge over emphasis on jacks. One or two jacks, towering above a few dozen infantry? yeah, they stand out. they've got presense. one or two jacks, standing amongst a dozen other jacks? Lost in the crowd.....

But on topic, while i lament the death of your warjacks (big warmachine fan, im afraid) in your reaction to that "friend" of yours, im rather torn. I think that reaction of yours, though severely OTT in a way, is quite brilliant in other ways. No messing about, and it made a point, thats for sure! thumbs up from me, all things considered!

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

e.g. The Ranger later meets a Sorcer who promises to magically heal her face in exchange for going on a quest and retrieving a magical relic?
And the Witch Doctor player triggers more traps than usual or gets cursed in some way.

That'd require a lot more faith in the DM at knowing his ass from his elbow than I would've had at that point - remember, he'd just allowed the 'native american voodoo witchdoctor' to cut out another PC's eye, while the poster was making sure to act like as big of a dick as possible to ensure his character did not accidentally touch the other character and cure the blindness until right before her eye was carved out. 'Whacky cultural misunderstanding' would be be the guy slowly realizing that with his new powers, he could heal injuries or perform small miracles without needing ceremonial incense, fetishes, and drawings done in chicken blood - cutting out someone's eye to cure blindness is something a jerk makes up on the spot for his own amusement as he screws up someone else's character.

What kind of person even does that to another player('s character)? Isn't that NPCs are for?

 Portugal Jones wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

e.g. The Ranger later meets a Sorcer who promises to magically heal her face in exchange for going on a quest and retrieving a magical relic?
And the Witch Doctor player triggers more traps than usual or gets cursed in some way.

That'd require a lot more faith in the DM at knowing his ass from his elbow than I would've had at that point - remember, he'd just allowed the 'native american voodoo witchdoctor' to cut out another PC's eye, while the poster was making sure to act like as big of a dick as possible to ensure his character did not accidentally touch the other character and cure the blindness until right before her eye was carved out. 'Whacky cultural misunderstanding' would be be the guy slowly realizing that with his new powers, he could heal injuries or perform small miracles without needing ceremonial incense, fetishes, and drawings done in chicken blood - cutting out someone's eye to cure blindness is something a jerk makes up on the spot for his own amusement as he screws up someone else's character.

Ah. Well I'm not an RPG player myself (though I've been listening/watching the WOTC podcasts and Live Pax games), I just wondered if the situation could be salvaged within the Storyline, in character.

Deadnight wrote:

 paulson games wrote:
I. I was drawn to the game because it promoted the image of being a robot combat game, yet game play revolved around everything but that, it focused on the infantry and casters.

to be fair, i view it as somewhat flawed to see it as a "robot combat game". jacks might be war machines, but they're not WARMACHINE. I dont want to derail the thread, but as a brief off topic, jacks are rare. Irusks 4th assault batallion has 20,000 infantry, and 80 jacks. a handful of jacks, with a solid backbone of infantry fits the world, im afraid. the second issue revolves around the premise of it being all about the robots. We both know another game where the apparent stars of the franchise (ie space marines) have half the codices, most of the fluff, and models dedicated to a force that in the background, comprises a tiny amount of it. I'd argue 40k suffers from the huge over emphasis on space marines. in the same way, warmachine would suffer with a huge over emphasis on jacks. One or two jacks, towering above a few dozen infantry? yeah, they stand out. they've got presense. one or two jacks, standing amongst a dozen other jacks? Lost in the crowd.....

But on topic, while i lament the death of your warjacks (big warmachine fan, im afraid) in your reaction to that "friend" of yours, im rather torn. I think that reaction of yours, though severely OTT in a way, is quite brilliant in other ways. No messing about, and it made a point, thats for sure! thumbs up from me, all things considered!

I agree that having too many jacks would take the game too far in the wrong direction. However they are an integral part of the game but for a significant portion of time events were being dominated by lists that didn't have a single jack or if they had one it was primarily so they could bounce spells. The balance favored infantry so badly that with second ed they had to make the first jack free simply so people would include them in their forces. Hordes I think has a superior system with how they make the beasts a lynchpin of the game, jacks don't have quite the same requirements and IMO their mechanics feel more like a stapled on item rather than being a centerpiece of the army. The art and book covers always showcases the jacks and beasts as the crown jewel of the forces, but in game play it's the caster that defines everything and the jacks take back stage. (boosting creates huge swings in the bell curve and I also really disliked the disparity level between feats)


I have mixed feelings about the reaction, in some ways it was very satisfying in an immediate sense but it's also not a moment I'm overly proud of. I let my cool go and I shouldn't have let myself be pestered into that game in the first place, I was originally trying to be polite and agreed to game when I just should have continued saying no. The only upside is after that he didn't bug me to play ever again as it finally registered how much I disliked the game and with no models it's not like I could game anyways. What was still at home and didn't get thrown out later got ebayed.

Sure, but that'd mean trusting both the GM and the donkey-cave witch doctor player not to decide to have some fun mutilating the character even more, or something else that makes you ask, "why am I still playing with these creeps?"

It's like the first time you ever played Warhammer, a guy said he'd play a 2,000 point 'teaching game' with you, barely explains anything, stomps you into the ground, makes fun of how much you suck at the game, and then offers to teach you to play 40K too. You really feel like giving him a chance?

 paulson games wrote:

I agree that having too many jacks would take the game too far in the wrong direction. However they are an integral part of the game but for a significant portion of time events were being dominated by lists that didn't have a single jack or if they had one it was primarily so they could bounce spells. The balance favored infantry so badly that with second ed they had to make the first jack free simply so people would include them in their forces.

There were a lot of issues in Mk1 that made jacks suffer. I put it against a young company “learning” the game. To be fair, it was a lot more than making one jack “free” that brought jacks up. They were made cheaper (they were too expensive), they were made more accurate (MAT and RAT buffs across the were increased from what they were), hurtier (most saw an increase in P+S values) power attacks were fixed (previously you suffered a MAT penalty when making them) as well as the free WJ points.
Then again, the problems with jacks weren’t the only issues that Mk1 suffered from.

 paulson games wrote:

Hordes I think has a superior system with how they make the beasts a lynchpin of the game, jacks don't have quite the same requirements and IMO their mechanics feel more like a stapled on item rather than being a centerpiece of the army.

In a way, I agree. In a way I don’t. I fully agree with you that Hordes warpacks are more integrated into the game, with the fury mechanic. But I don’t agree that it is necessarily a good thing. I have a dog in both fights, as it were. On the Warmachine side, I play mainly Khador, but have a small Retribution starter that I’ll expand soon, thanks to the new floaty elven chick, and I play Circle on the Hordes side of it. Now when I play Circle, whilst I love the fury mechanic, and how warlocks and warbeasts “feed” off of each other to a degree warcasters and warjacks don’t, I also find myself envying the “independence” of the warcaster/warjack relationship. They’re different. They’re not meant to be the same. It boils down to the fact that before I even think about anything else in my Circle army, I’ve spent 20-25points on warbeasts. They cost more than warjacks, and I need to field more. It doesn’t leave me a lot of breathing space for solos, units and support pieces. The same cannot be said for my Khador force. I slap down Irusk, or Butcher, put down a jack or two, and then I realise I have 40 odd points to spend on filling out my army. I simply have a lot more “design freedom” when making a khador army than I do with a circle army. And I am quite envious of that when I run my beasts! Beyond that, whilst warbeasts are more vital in how they are a lynchpin, once they start dying, my whole army suffers to a degree my Khador faction can simply shrug off. I lose a Juggernaut, and I’ve lost a heavy hitter. I lose a warpwolf, and I lose a heavy hitter/wound sink/ animus/fury generator. Being a “lynchpin” hurts a lot more when push comes to shove.

 paulson games wrote:
. The art and book covers always showcases the jacks and beasts as the crown jewel of the forces, but in game play it's the caster that defines everything and the jacks take back stage. (boosting creates huge swings in the bell curve and I also really disliked the disparity level between feats)

Do they? I usually see a few scrapping it out, amongst hordes of infantry, with the casters at centre stage. With respect, I don’t see the artwork as defining warjacks as “the one thing that this game should revolve around”.

 Vulcan wrote:
A lot of people misunderstand the nature of roleplaying games - indeed, ALL games.
Games are, by their very nature, a CO-OPERATIVE entertainment. So doing things that make it not-fun for other people in the group is nothing more than being a jerk..

I think alot of folks would disagree with you but I completely agree. In nearly all circumstances I view a game as a chance to have fun with other people. Losing of course can sometimes be a downer, but if overall we're not both having fun, then what's the point?

Now some folks only have fun when they win and will raise a stink if they don't. I simply don't play with those kind of people.

 Portugal Jones wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

e.g. The Ranger later meets a Sorcer who promises to magically heal her face in exchange for going on a quest and retrieving a magical relic?
And the Witch Doctor player triggers more traps than usual or gets cursed in some way.

That'd require a lot more faith in the DM at knowing his ass from his elbow than I would've had at that point - remember, he'd just allowed the 'native american voodoo witchdoctor' to cut out another PC's eye, while the poster was making sure to act like as big of a dick as possible to ensure his character did not accidentally touch the other character and cure the blindness until right before her eye was carved out. 'Whacky cultural misunderstanding' would be be the guy slowly realizing that with his new powers, he could heal injuries or perform small miracles without needing ceremonial incense, fetishes, and drawings done in chicken blood - cutting out someone's eye to cure blindness is something a jerk makes up on the spot for his own amusement as he screws up someone else's character.

Yup, and many lulz were had.

YEsterday. I said I was Novacharging the riptide and doing its boost. I said Nova charging it, like most people. When I go to do the boost, he contests and looks at the book, Little did I know the gun power was also called nova charging. He said I said that, I did, but I also said boost. I got really mad as did he. IT wasnt a good game for all. He slow played, questioned everything and all that, didnt know the rules, got mad and all that. Neither of us looked good. Then I got mad at the TO when the TO rolled to see who was right.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
YEsterday. I said I was Novacharging the riptide and doing its boost. I said Nova charging it, like most people. When I go to do the boost, he contests and looks at the book, Little did I know the gun power was also called nova charging. He said I said that, I did, but I also said boost. I got really mad as did he. IT wasnt a good game for all. He slow played, questioned everything and all that, didnt know the rules, got mad and all that. Neither of us looked good. Then I got mad at the TO when the TO rolled to see who was right.

okay, so done trolling through the thread, this one is a serious response. I hate the idea of having a situation like that rolled for. People need to not be fething awful and a TO needs to be able to make a decsion and have the balls to be "the bad guy" when it comes to actually having some form of integrity.

I never liked a third party rolling for the result, but sometimes it is the only way when the TO is the friend of both guys.
This guy just slow played and it SUCKED so much.

Imnewherewheresthebathroom wrote:
I roasted 4 helldrakes as they came on the board a few weeks ago. The story goes; I was told to bring at triptide list all with HBC, interceptor, and skyfire, for the succinct purpose of griefing a particular player. Now I own the 3 riptide models only for highly competitive use. I won't bring them unless requested because, well duh.
The story goes, my opponent was already hot because his drakes didn't come in on turn two. so thinking he had my troops all but crispy when they all came in on three, he was rudely surprised by the rending rule on the HBC. It didn't help that we had onlookers, but when only one of the four survived with a single remaining hp he started muttering about "cheesy bullshite tau this spam that" as he started grabbing his models off the table. Nobody said a word to him as he left. But we think he knew someone had conspired against him. I was merely the sharpest tool in the shed for this particular job.

We haven't seen him since.

So the fact that 3 riptides going nova will only hit for 1 penetrating hit, doesn't matter? you just got insanely lucky?


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
YEsterday. I said I was Novacharging the riptide and doing its boost. I said Nova charging it, like most people. When I go to do the boost, he contests and looks at the book, Little did I know the gun power was also called nova charging. He said I said that, I did, but I also said boost. I got really mad as did he. IT wasnt a good game for all. He slow played, questioned everything and all that, didnt know the rules, got mad and all that. Neither of us looked good. Then I got mad at the TO when the TO rolled to see who was right.

okay, so done trolling through the thread, this one is a serious response. I hate the idea of having a situation like that rolled for. People need to not be fething awful and a TO needs to be able to make a decsion and have the balls to be "the bad guy" when it comes to actually having some form of integrity.

In a situation where it could've gone either way, like Sub-op is saying, I would roll a dice for it. It's much quicker just to say "1,2,3 your way, 4,5,6 his way." and nobody can complain that you were biased.

I wouldnt have minded that, if the guy wasnt slw playing the entire thing, causing me to loose my patience

Can imagine that someone playing really slow in a tournament setting would be pretty annoying. But I reckon everyone has their own pace really.

When it is obviously deliberate(HE had two units to move"

Yeah, that would get really annoying very quickly.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Portugal Jones wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

e.g. The Ranger later meets a Sorcer who promises to magically heal her face in exchange for going on a quest and retrieving a magical relic?
And the Witch Doctor player triggers more traps than usual or gets cursed in some way.

That'd require a lot more faith in the DM at knowing his ass from his elbow than I would've had at that point - remember, he'd just allowed the 'native american voodoo witchdoctor' to cut out another PC's eye, while the poster was making sure to act like as big of a dick as possible to ensure his character did not accidentally touch the other character and cure the blindness until right before her eye was carved out. 'Whacky cultural misunderstanding' would be be the guy slowly realizing that with his new powers, he could heal injuries or perform small miracles without needing ceremonial incense, fetishes, and drawings done in chicken blood - cutting out someone's eye to cure blindness is something a jerk makes up on the spot for his own amusement as he screws up someone else's character.

Ah. Well I'm not an RPG player myself (though I've been listening/watching the WOTC podcasts and Live Pax games), I just wondered if the situation could be salvaged within the Storyline, in character.

I learned the hard way that if it's an out-of-character problem, it can't be solved with in-character measures. You're just rewarding the jerk with attention

It wasn't my game, but I did see someone completely smash their own Vendetta after a tournament game. It was ridiculous. If you can't lose a game and still have a good time, then you don't need to be playing.

In response to all the people getting butthurt over the RPG story, that would be a normal action in my group. You are all giving him a hard time over something his imaginary character did in a fantasy game.

 puma713 wrote:
It wasn't my game, but I did see someone completely smash their own Vendetta after a tournament game. It was ridiculous. If you can't lose a game and still have a good time, then you don't need to be playing.

A Vendetta... What an ass

Playing apocalypse, one kid decided to tip the table when his force got nuked turn one, then redshirt forced us to use them as reinforcements, then they got shredded turn two. The kid pretty much lost it, started screaming about how OPed battle cannons are.

Next thing you know, he's upended the table, 30K points worth of models on the floor, The redshirt kicked him out, and when the ankle-biters mom came up wanting an explanation, he presented her with the bill for repairs.

Something like a grand as well (we had forgeworld models).

And thats why I don't play apocalypse anymore with games workshop. Because they keep kids around who flip out at almost anything.

 Doctadeth wrote:
Playing apocalypse, one kid decided to tip the table when his force got nuked turn one, then redshirt forced us to use them as reinforcements, then they got shredded turn two. The kid pretty much lost it, started screaming about how OPed battle cannons are.

Next thing you know, he's upended the table, 30K points worth of models on the floor, The redshirt kicked him out, and when the ankle-biters mom came up wanting an explanation, he presented her with the bill for repairs.

Something like a grand as well (we had forgeworld models).

And thats why I don't play apocalypse anymore with games workshop. Because they keep kids around who flip out at almost anything.

Jesus, if only all that had been on video

Hope she paid for EVERYTHING, if not am sure you could sue

BlackSanguinor wrote:
In response to all the people getting butthurt over the RPG story, that would be a normal action in my group. You are all giving him a hard time over something his imaginary character did in a fantasy game.

I guess we're just not hardcore enough to appreciate role playing as the sociopath playground it was apparently intended to be.

Because if you're not being a big enough of an donkey-cave in game to end friendships out of game, you're playing it wrong!

I admit I have a temper. The thing is, I can keep it in check until people start teasing me for it. If I'm getting mad and clearly upset the game is going drastically poorly for me, people giving me unasked for advice is intolerable and I will snap at you. It's one thing at the end of a game when you discuss it with the guy you played with; it's something else entirely when people not part of the game start telling you what you did wrong.

Anyone who says "You mad, bro?", I will fething punch you in the fething face because if you're going to be a troll, I'm going to be a bully. Taunting someone especially when they are known for losing their cool but make sure to go out of their way after the fact to apologize to the other guy is just terrible behavior and it's totally acceptable in American culture.

I would much rather play with someone who gets upset and cares about the game he's playing enough to show too much emotion, than play with someone who's a prick troll. That's just me, though.

I would recommend you just stay home, SRSFACE. You seem to have anger management problems.


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BlackSanguinor wrote:
In response to all the people getting butthurt over the RPG story, that would be a normal action in my group. You are all giving him a hard time over something his imaginary character did in a fantasy game.

It's not so much butthurt as it is people pointing out that the behavior is both reprehensible and juvenile.

If that's what your group considers to be fun, then great for you! The fact that you can't see the point of view from the rest of us speaks volumes.

 SRSFACE wrote:
people giving me unasked for advice

 kronk wrote:
I would recommend you just stay home, SRSFACE. You seem to have anger management problems.


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BlackSanguinor wrote:
In response to all the people getting butthurt over the RPG story, that would be a normal action in my group. You are all giving him a hard time over something his imaginary character did in a fantasy game.

It's not so much butthurt as it is people pointing out that the behavior is both reprehensible and juvenile.

If that's what your group considers to be fun, then great for you! The fact that you can't see the point of view from the rest of us speaks volumes.

Legit question, do you even realize how condescending you sound?

I do have an "anger problem," that's triggered by people being reprehensible donkey-caves. Don't want me getting angry, don't be a dick. It's really simple. I don't see why the onus is on me to not get angry when someone is intentionally doing behavior with the intent of getting a reaction. I believe it's my social responsibility to give people the reaction they are seeking. Once a 6'4" bear of a guy jacks you against the wall when you've been teasing him relentlessly for 4 hours, you tend to stop teasing that guy.

I'm actually a really patient person and am pretty reasonable. I give people fair warnings. "Really? You're going to taunt me when you're the one who brought 3 riptides against a fluffy Dark Angels army? Okay." Then I pick my stuff up because I don't like playing against poor sports. And if they want to then tease me further, that's when gak gets real.

Poor sportsmanship goes two ways. The guy who's an awful winner is 100% worse than a sore loser, to me.

@PUMA713: I get why people do it so I'm not mad when people give advice. It's just, the timing of it, I wish people would think about that a little more. If I'm in a huff because I rolled 4 1s on the 5 terminator armor saves I had to make, sorry, but your advice on how I "should have played it" isn't going to matter to me because I'm mad at the random luck aspect, not because tactically I made a mistake. Funny thing is, I don't even really get mad when I screw up tactically, because at least that's a mistake on my end. Randomness deciding fate is never really fun.

For me, leisure time is limited so getting any game time in is important to me.

What makes me "rage" is when people take elements of an army that live in the "grey zone" of rules and then make comments about not knowing the rules well enough and slowing the game down when I look them up.

Then when I point out they could demonstrate their superior knowledge by pointing out the relevant sections of the rules to help speed it along and they appear unable or unwilling to clarify.

Even better, they open their book, loudly quote a section of the rules and close the book, conveniently overlooking relevant added text to said rule.

Then when you corner them on it (they still did not say what page it was), they have the gall to say "I do not agree with you, we are going to roll off on it!".

Had this happen a couple times, I calmly pack my stuff and say "If you are serious about playing a real game, let me know, but I really do have better things to do with my time.".

I just wish people can be confident / happy enough to just play rules as straight-up as possible and realize as pointed out that if two people are not having fun, it is time to end it right there.

 SRSFACE wrote:
I admit I have a temper. The thing is, I can keep it in check until people start teasing me for it. If I'm getting mad and clearly upset the game is going drastically poorly for me, people giving me unasked for advice is intolerable and I will snap at you. It's one thing at the end of a game when you discuss it with the guy you played with; it's something else entirely when people not part of the game start telling you what you did wrong.

Anyone who says "You mad, bro?", I will fething punch you in the fething face because if you're going to be a troll, I'm going to be a bully. Taunting someone especially when they are known for losing their cool but make sure to go out of their way after the fact to apologize to the other guy is just terrible behavior and it's totally acceptable in American culture.

I would much rather play with someone who gets upset and cares about the game he's playing enough to show too much emotion, than play with someone who's a prick troll. That's just me, though.

LoL. This sort of justified childishness it what makes it frustrating for actual adults to play in a public setting, it's a game BRO, how about you recognize that.

On a sidenote though, I too really hate it when people offer up advice. I mean being friendly and all that, trying to aid you when you're clearly being thrashed, what donkey-caves.

/taunt

Anyhow, as far as Rage stories go, I've seen grown men break beautifully painted models out of frustration and anger, not something I condone, but I get it I guess. Saw a guy chuck a Baneblade during an apoc game; word has it that he took the brunt of the first turn shooting and the thing blew up, taking a few squads of guys with it. It was a shame too, he'd taken a lot of time to get the tank painted exactly the way he'd wanted it, just like the rest of his army, and by the the end of the match the thing was in pieces.

It sucks when you get so far in a game (or maybe get an army so ready for a game) and then get roflstomped. It's happened to us all and as far as the dice gods are concerned, my IG aren't set to win ANYHING short of an initiative roll.

 SRSFACE wrote:
Legit question, do you even realize how condescending you sound?

I do have an "anger problem," that's triggered by people being reprehensible donkey-caves. Don't want me getting angry, don't be a dick. It's really simple. I don't see why the onus is on me to not get angry when someone is intentionally doing behavior with the intent of getting a reaction. I believe it's my social responsibility to give people the reaction they are seeking. Once a 6'4" bear of a guy jacks you against the wall when you've been teasing him relentlessly for 4 hours, you tend to stop teasing that guy.

I'm actually a really patient person and am pretty reasonable. I give people fair warnings. "Really? You're going to taunt me when you're the one who brought 3 riptides against a fluffy Dark Angels army? Okay." Then I pick my stuff up because I don't like playing against poor sports. And if they want to then tease me further, that's when gak gets real.

Poor sportsmanship goes two ways. The guy who's an awful winner is 100% worse than a sore loser, to me.

And neither of those people should be assaulted by an adult human.
Can't handle donkey-caves? Stay home. 6'4"? Whoop dee doo. Welcome to jail if anyone presses charges. Welcome to the hospital/morgue if that cocky guy also carries a knife for when 6'4" guys "jack him against the wall"
If your games are 4 hours of relentless teasing then you need to get a new store or a thicker skin.

 SRSFACE wrote:
I admit I have a temper. The thing is, I can keep it in check until people start teasing me for it. If I'm getting mad and clearly upset the game is going drastically poorly for me, people giving me unasked for advice is intolerable and I will snap at you. It's one thing at the end of a game when you discuss it with the guy you played with; it's something else entirely when people not part of the game start telling you what you did wrong.

Anyone who says "You mad, bro?", I will fething punch you in the fething face because if you're going to be a troll, I'm going to be a bully. Taunting someone especially when they are known for losing their cool but make sure to go out of their way after the fact to apologize to the other guy is just terrible behavior and it's totally acceptable in American culture.

I would much rather play with someone who gets upset and cares about the game he's playing enough to show too much emotion, than play with someone who's a prick troll. That's just me, though.

U mad bro?

I admit I have a temper.

Good. that's the first step in self improvement.

If I'm getting mad and clearly upset the game is going drastically poorly for me, people giving me unasked for advice is intolerable and I will snap at you.

You're admitting that if you are losing a game of toy soldiers, you'll lash out at anyone that gives you advice. This is classic "Don't make me hurt you" circular logic employed by bullies and people with anger management problems.

Anyone who says "You mad, bro?", I will fething punch you in the fething face because if you're going to be a troll, I'm going to be a bully.

More of the same. You will commit assault if you don't like what someone says?

Taunting someone especially when they are known for losing their cool but make sure to go out of their way after the fact to apologize to the other guy is just terrible behavior and it's totally acceptable in American culture.

Huge ramble. Something about modern American culture that you don't agree with to justify your rage. I think.

I would much rather play with someone who gets upset and cares about the game he's playing enough to show too much emotion, than play with someone who's a prick troll. That's just me, though.

You'd rather play with someone that assaults people when the lose? Like a Wookie?

I do have an "anger problem,"

You and I are in agreement.

that's triggered by people being reprehensible donkey-caves. Don't want me getting angry, don't be a dick. It's really simple.

It is easy. You're not in control of your emotions.

I don't see why the onus is on me to not get angry when someone is intentionally doing behavior with the intent of getting a reaction.

If someone is continually a jerk to you, stop playing them. However, the onus is on you (and everyone) to act civilized, which includes not assaulting people over a toy soldiers game.

I believe it's my social responsibility to give people the reaction they are seeking.

If only life was so simple. There is this one chick at the Olive Garden... Man I wish she'd react the way I'm seeking...

Once a 6'4" bear of a guy jacks you against the wall when you've been teasing him relentlessly for 4 hours, you tend to stop teasing that guy.

Right. You stop teasing the guy after he assaults you and then you call the police. After he is charged and sentenced, you then sue him for what he's worth!

I'm actually a really patient person and am pretty reasonable.

Your posts suggest otherwise, which is why I suggested you stay home until you get your anger under control.

I give people fair warnings. "Really? You're going to taunt me when you're the one who brought 3 riptides against a fluffy Dark Angels army? Okay." Then I pick my stuff up because I don't like playing against poor sports.

Removing yourself from a potentially violent situation and/or hostile one is perfectly natural and commendable. 4 stars!

And if they want to then tease me further, that's when gak gets real.

Nevermind. - 4 stars.

Poor sportsmanship goes two ways. The guy who's an awful winner is 100% worse than a sore loser, to me.

100% Agreement here!

 Frankenberry wrote:

LoL. This sort of justified childishness it what makes it frustrating for actual adults to play in a public setting, it's a game BRO, how about you recognize that.

On a sidenote though, I too really hate it when people offer up advice. I mean being friendly and all that, trying to aid you when you're clearly being thrashed, what donkey-caves.

/taunt

Because being sarcastic and implying someone who is being honest and forthright and admitting he's human with a flaw is somehow not an "actual adult" is the behavior that "actual adults" are supposed to exhibit?

Okay.

My point must have not come across very well if you're first response is to troll me rather than to actually try and have a discussion, so let me try again. I am someone who is flawed, and my flaw is I get angry. I have spent a great deal of my life trying to control my anger, and I do a pretty good job of it most of the time. I was bullied my entire life, and continue to be so, to the point where I've attempted to committ suicide at least twice in a span of about 3 months roughly two years ago. I try to keep my emotions in check, and it's very difficult.

I wear my emotions on my sleeve and when people poke and prod at me by taunting, I respond. Again, why is the onus on me? I'm already trying to keep it together. Why is it acceptable to treat other people poorly especially while they are at an emotional low, but it's not okay for that person to retaliate against someone bullying them?

I study psychology (not for school, but just out of curiosity and an attempt at understanding myself, let alone others), and have learned a few insightful things I'd like to share with you all. The thing about anger is that it's not a healthy state of mind, so expecting people who are already in that state of mind to behave rationally is an irrational expectation. You can choose to be infantile and set it off, and then have some sort of backwards logic in your own mind that the person reacting to your taunting is somehow more childish than you are, despite you being the one initiating the bullying. Or, you can choose to try and show some empathy and compassion for the human being across from you and let them know you understand if they are frustrated. When it comes to Warhammer especially, you should theoretically be friends with everyone you play against, and should have been on the bad side of dice enough to know how frustrating it is. I don't understand why someone who's been on the recieving end of a bad day would decide to inflict that on another person, especially in what should be a friendly game.

The offering unwanted advice thing is a personal pet peeve of mine. To me, and to most people especially when they are in a state of anger, they take it to mean not that you care about how they are doing but you want to prove that you're tactically superior. No one wants to know how much better at something you think you are than them, especially when they are having a bad game. I am fairly talented as a painter, and I see people struggling with their own paintings sometimes. Do I go over to them and say "Well what I'd do is this and what I'd do with that, and that sucks, and you need better brush lines here?" No, because that'd be rude. Same thing applies to the tabletop. People ask me for advice all the time; I give it only when they ask. I have to bite my tongue a lot of the time, too, because like every last person into this hobby, I am kind of a know-it-all. (This hobby attracts people with that personality flaw like flies.) Especially if you are not part of my game, I don't care what your opinions are unless I ask for it. It's not actually friendly to offer advice, and that's a fact.

And I suppose I'm guilty of even that just now as my entire rant is basically advice on how to deal with someone who's "raging."

TL;DR If someone is "raging," don't make it worse by treating them with behavior as infantile and childish as you believe they are showing.

 SRSFACE wrote:
I admit I have a temper. The thing is, I can keep it in check until people start teasing me for it. If I'm getting mad and clearly upset the game is going drastically poorly for me, people giving me unasked for advice is intolerable and I will snap at you. It's one thing at the end of a game when you discuss it with the guy you played with; it's something else entirely when people not part of the game start telling you what you did wrong.

Anyone who says "You mad, bro?", I will fething punch you in the fething face because if you're going to be a troll, I'm going to be a bully. Taunting someone especially when they are known for losing their cool but make sure to go out of their way after the fact to apologize to the other guy is just terrible behavior and it's totally acceptable in American culture.

I would much rather play with someone who gets upset and cares about the game he's playing enough to show too much emotion, than play with someone who's a prick troll. That's just me, though.

U mad bro?

Someone's sent you to Frowntown Abbey.

Strangers aren't going to accomodate your personal issues.
If you are talking about friends here then, yikes.

The onus is entirely on you to control yourself, just as the onus is on other people to not act like ass hats. Unfortunately; A: you can only control your own reactions to people B: no-one is going to to go jail for 'teasing' an adult.

The scenario you are describing seems increasingly bizarre.

Seems like a reasonable note to end on.