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Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 14:28:25


Post by: Scipio Africanus


What's a kit that *really* gets to you? It doesn't have to be GW, and it can be an aesthetic, practical or conceptual reason.

I mean, SM is two small sprues with few bibs and bobs, and a lot of wasted space. I look back to even the old tactical marine box, or even the scouts kit and I see far less wasted space.

What this suggests to me is that the SM kit is old. Worse, it's bad. The SM bike has an awful, awful pose, with the biker being a cruiser.

The outrider kit from FW does some of the job in mitigating the design, making them less bulky and more sleek, but they're still a cruiser. and it gets to me. It doesn't seem practical, or even cool.

I'd much prefer, especially for white scars who give off the impression they'd fast, a sports bike pose. So, the rider's forward, rather than sitting in the seat, he's more straddling the seat. That way, he'd be closer to the hull of the bike (so the raised toughness would be more realistic) and he'd be a lot more capable with his attacking. Also, swinging a sword into an assault is a lot easier if you're sitting forward, since you can get more of a range of motion as you cleave an opponent in twain.

those are my reasons. Cruiser bikes would be cool for guard, and work for eldar to an extent, but the dark eldar kit, the sports ride feel it has, that's what I want my flamering tartars of white and red death to look like.

So, what's your peeve model?



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 14:33:20


Post by: Zygrot24


Dwarf gyro copters of any era.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 14:36:54


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Any kit (modern) that puts a sprue gate (or mould edge) over detail

Now the software has advanced there is no real excuse for it

it's either a hassle (or impossible) to fix so don't do it!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 14:37:41


Post by: gianlucafiorentini123


The new SM kit, the way the arms are positioned you have to use the instruction booklet to get the arms right, the old kit was nice and easy the right arms were place together.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 14:40:56


Post by: Scipio Africanus


 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
The new SM kit, the way the arms are positioned you have to use the instruction booklet to get the arms right, the old kit was nice and easy the right arms were place together.


Only thing I don't like about the current kit is the fact that all (an I mean all the guns) are on the hand. I'd really like a guy holding a gun in the left hand, or, y'know, at his side.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 14:41:56


Post by: kronk


 Scipio Africanus wrote:

Only thing I don't like about the current kit is the fact that all (an I mean all the guns) are on the hand. I'd really like a guy holding a gun in the left hand, or, y'know, at his side.


Really??? Holy crap. I must have missed that. I am set for Space Marines, but had no idea they changed that!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 14:47:32


Post by: Scipio Africanus


 kronk wrote:
 Scipio Africanus wrote:

Only thing I don't like about the current kit is the fact that all (an I mean all the guns) are on the hand. I'd really like a guy holding a gun in the left hand, or, y'know, at his side.


Really??? Holy crap. I must have missed that. I am set for Space Marines, but had no idea they changed that!


Horde those old boltguns. I won 20 in a giffle and I gave away the marines to get 32 more.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 14:49:17


Post by: master of ordinance


The reseen Marauder for Battletech. Going together is a little tough..... But the big problem comes from painting it. I have to varnish every few layers or the paint rubs off at the edges.

Apart from that, Airfixes M3 Lee/Grant is a bad kit. The amount of flash on it was insane.

And most of the new GW kits-the designs look cartoonish and terrible.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 15:10:21


Post by: squall018


Any SM kit with Rhino chassis. They are a pain to get lined up correctly. I have had Razorback sitting on a box for close to a year because I dread putting it together.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 15:15:41


Post by: Scipio Africanus


 squall018 wrote:
Any SM kit with Rhino chassis. They are a pain to get lined up correctly. I have had Razorback sitting on a box for close to a year because I dread putting it together.


Why does everyone hate the Rhino Kit? I love it. I don't glue the chassis together and they make for good wrecks when they blow up.



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 15:22:34


Post by: jason1977


Other than remove any metal parts from both the biker and land speeder both kits are what....8 years old???


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 15:40:10


Post by: lord_blackfang


 jason1977 wrote:
Other than remove any metal parts from both the biker and land speeder both kits are what....8 years old???


You;ll be complaining about Crisis Suit ankles next


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 15:43:47


Post by: Arschbombe


Drop pods. Getting the sides and top engine pieces to align properly and allow the doors to close properly is a nightmare.

Eldar guardians. The arms just don't work well on this kit.



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 16:07:01


Post by: Scipio Africanus


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 jason1977 wrote:
Other than remove any metal parts from both the biker and land speeder both kits are what....8 years old???


You;ll be complaining about Crisis Suit ankles next


I like the crisis suit ankles. They're the only part of the crisis suit kit I like.

I really wish the suit kit had posable arms like the riptide does. I know, I know, it's an old kit. But kid can dream, right?


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 16:26:00


Post by: Midnightdeathblade


Centurions....just no please go away..


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 16:32:09


Post by: jason1977


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 jason1977 wrote:
Other than remove any metal parts from both the biker and land speeder both kits are what....8 years old???


You;ll be complaining about Crisis Suit ankles next


Dont play Tau.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 16:46:09


Post by: timetowaste85


Big metal/finecast kits. My WoC Helcannon suffered from not going together properly and had tons of issues. There are gaps that need GS. Off the GW topic (since that's all that's here so far), Mantic kits need instruction booklets. Most of the stuff can be figured out relatively easily, but some things like figuring out which sword arm for which paladin, or which Enforcer arm matches to which gun is difficult at times. Instructions, guys, please.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 16:53:29


Post by: Nevelon


The SM bike kit is very dated. On the bright side, it’s compatible with every other SM kit out there, so you can mix it up. Unlike eldar jetbikes, for example.

I don’t mind rhinos. They are dumpsters on treads, so not very inspiring, but boring doesn’t generate a lot of hate.

Drop pods hold a special, hate filled, place in my heart.

Some of the older kits need to be re-cut. Lots of dead space on the SM commander kit, for example. Is the basic dread still spread over 4 sprues? Not so much bad or annoying kits, just could use some love.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 16:54:11


Post by: SagesStone


The Exorcist. Just... yeah...


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 17:08:16


Post by: BrotherOfBone


Sentinels.. *shudder*


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 17:21:16


Post by: Vaktathi


The worst kit I've ever had to try to put together was the metal Thunderfire Cannon. Nothing about that kit was fun.

The old Chimera and Leman Russ kits were annoying in that they had tons of road wheels (that served no purpose and could not be seen) that were required to assemble the kit.

Infinity models can be infuriating. If you've ever had to put some Pan-O infantry together with their teeny-tiny little metal antennae, they are truly maddening.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 17:25:20


Post by: Madness!


The old metal Empire Steamtank...I literally had to use a vise
grip to hold it together long enough for the glue to dry.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 17:33:19


Post by: sparkywtf


Restic models. Doesn't matter who made them. It started with my first model, the warjacks from the Cygnar starter.

I hate rhino based kits. They always look like crap once together unless you dry fit it, use about 20 clamps to hold it, and slowly glue the gaps, taking about 3 days to do one chassis (it is how I did mine so they looked half decent gap wise)

Any kit that has the gun as a separate piece. They hardly ever line up.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:01:09


Post by: Wayniac


New Space Marines are pretty crappy with the hand attached to the gun. Makes it awkward to glue on, especially if you get a bad batch or something; one of the ones I have has the arm part missing a chunk so if I glue the arm there, it's like his wrist is dangling off of his arm. The old style (arm as one piece, gun separate) was 100x better and still allowed you to pretty easily chop the wrist off if you wanted to do a conversion; no idea why they changed it and I dread the idea that they might do that same crap if/when they redo the CSM plastics.

Honorable mention to the Tau Crisis Suit "chicken feet".


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:10:18


Post by: Palindrome


 Zygrot24 wrote:
Dwarf gyro copters of any era.


Even pinning the damn things doesn't work.....


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:12:05


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


Necron Warriors. The sprues are too tightly packed, to the point you can't get clippers in there without damaging things. The heads are attached to the sprue by the cheeks. That's right, the cheeks. It's like performing surgery to get the damned things out without damaging them. Then you come to glue them together and the arms don't fit properly in the sockets, so they are attached by the tiniest point.

They wouldn't be so much of a problem if it weren't for the fact they are THE core troops for the army.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:12:09


Post by: Da Boss


Trollblood champions- arms fall off if you look at them, so much pinning!
Mulg has a similar problem, mine is extensively pinned but still comes apart.

Carnivean was a pain to put together as well! Basically all the big metal warbeasts are a bit of a nightmare.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:19:41


Post by: Paradigm


Drop Pods. Absolute pain to build.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:38:12


Post by: keezus


Pretty much every Privateer Press plastic kit out there. Detail ranges from crisp to downright muddy in some instances. The mould lines, while cleverly hidden on some newer models, are very difficult to remove, and MUST be removed to get a decent degree of finish on the kit as their presence is magnified once painted. This is a very painstaking and annoying process.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:46:06


Post by: Low_K


I misread and though it said kiDs that annoy you.

Regarding kits; I especially disliked the plastic Killa Kan kit without instructions and the old metal Chaos Spawn miniature. The latter I never was able to get fixed.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:49:35


Post by: sing your life


Metal kits with small connecting parts are so annoying.

On a smaller note, the PP plastics with random bits of gak just left on the parts,





Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:49:59


Post by: Ouze


For me the hardest kit to assemble was the metal Thunderfire Cannon, the most tedious was the drop pod - I can't say what exactly about it I hated so much, but I did - and the most annoying would be the finecast HQ's. I got some of the Necrons when they first came out and each and every one had issues ranging from fixable to garbage, and in some cases multiple returns didn't get me a better kit (Overlord). Man, I still get mad over how much Finecast sucked.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:50:02


Post by: Butterqwist


High Elves Phoenix guards… Most annoying models ever, why?
1. Big gaps needing greenstuff in all cloaks, all of them!
2. They can not stand together unless you build them with a clear 3d view of the finished block (rather annoying if you want 30 in a block).
3. They only have the option for holding the weapon with two hand in a 300 degree angle over the hip. So much for the vision of HE s perfect discipline when all the guys looks like a heroic individual…
Rage...


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 18:57:20


Post by: Gertjan


 Zygrot24 wrote:
Dwarf gyro copters of any era.


Oh god, this, very much so. I had even forgotten by now since I sold my dwarves but that kit induces such an amount of rage, it even took flight in some rage induced flying experiments

There is a special place of hatred reserved for the new malifaux plastics though. I love the models but the building is horrible. They have such tiny fragile components that with my big hands I have to ask my gf to glue some components as my big fingers can't deal with them. But then again, that might be personal.

Other than that, pretty much any kit with mold lines on it, there's no real excuse for those, if you can charge genuine high end model kit prices, you can provide the same quality. Period.



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 19:02:11


Post by: Bossk_Hogg


Anything that's designed to live only inside a case (or 3d render) rather than actually be handled. Thin bits on metal that are too small to be feasibly pinned, yet you know will break off the moment someone bumps the table. Models with only a small point of contact with the base. Wyrd is particularly bad about that. I present Nekima, otherwise known as she of the broken ankle.
Spoiler:


Their most recent Copycat Killer is connected to the base by a single point of scissors. Who the hell approved that?

Bits connected by thin bits. Wyrd's stupid hanging tree had the corpses connected by plastic ropes about 2mm thick. 2 of mine didnt even survive transport while they were on the sprue. But I think this guy takes the cake. No idea how this is supposed to not break.

Spoiler:



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 19:05:09


Post by: Price


Already been said but Necron Warriors.

The way the heads are placed within the sprue is completely insane and Even when you do manage to get them free, you still have to clean up that teeny tiny recess and end up with either a far to hollow cheek or a lump. I imagine that taking time with them would yield better results, but when you have sixty warriors waiting for you, time is not my friend.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 19:07:16


Post by: Alex Kolodotschko


 Gertjan wrote:
They have such tiny fragile components that with my big hands I have to ask my gf to glue some components as my big fingers can't deal with them. But then again, that might be personal.

Get some tweezers. I've got a fairly light touch and nimble fingers and I still find myself reaching for the tweezers on occasion. Also use a fresh blade on your knife with those kits and you'll get on just fine. GW really have spoilt us.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 19:12:05


Post by: sing your life


The cataphractii terminator kits has legs that appear to have been designed not to fit with the torsos.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 19:15:43


Post by: tomball0706


Fleshborers, fleshborers and more fleshborers

Nothing, I mean nothing gets me more infuriated them then, put together over 100 of them, yet still cannot seem to get the knack of it. They have resulted in so many swear words being shouted and fingers being glued together that I've simply lost count. What's even worse is that they don't even look that good!

Oh I scrolled past this quickly and thought it said "kids that annoy you" and I was hoping to find some hilarious rage stories about kids, instead I find rage on kits instead


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 19:33:30


Post by: B0B MaRlEy


The thunderfire cannon was annoying ,but honestly the drop pods? Send them to me and pay for the sending back and I'll do them anytime!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 19:47:39


Post by: kb305


 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
The new SM kit, the way the arms are positioned you have to use the instruction booklet to get the arms right, the old kit was nice and easy the right arms were place together.


it's not that bad. check the numbers on the sprue. the ones that have similar labels go together, you shouldn't need the instructions.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 20:04:16


Post by: Golgo13


I don't like unfinished Unit boxes.. Privateer press has a few of them left but are slowly discontinuing them and replacing them with full unit boxes. Because they care about their customers. If a unit is X members you should get everything you need to field them in one BOX period.. If a unit can field a weapon it should be in the box period. I think GW are experts at not giving you everything you need in one box; but that is part of there market strategi, it is Stupid and makes you lose customers...


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 20:12:21


Post by: Wayniac


Golgo13 wrote:
I don't like unfinished Unit boxes.. Privateer press has a few of them left but are slowly discontinuing them and replacing them with full unit boxes. Because they care about their customers. If a unit is X members you should get everything you need to field them in one BOX period.. If a unit can field a weapon it should be in the box period. I think GW are experts at not giving you everything you need in one box; but that is part of there market strategi, it is Stupid and makes you lose customers...


This exactly. Nothing pisses me off more than looking at buying a squad and realizing that I also need to buy another box (or worse, more than one) to get the parts I need. It wasn't quite as bad when they had bitz because if I needed lets say a lascannon for a marine squad I could get the bitz via Mail Order, but without bitz now do they really expect me to buy a devastator box as well as a tactical squad box? Or worse, think of if you wanted a Devastator squad with 4x Lascannons; is their answer seriously to buy 2+ devastator boxes? Ridiculous.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 20:12:24


Post by: sing your life


Necromunda Enforcers were horrible to assemble since I had only experience with plastic/FC previously.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 20:48:36


Post by: CommanderRyalis


 Palindrome wrote:
 Zygrot24 wrote:
Dwarf gyro copters of any era.


Even pinning the damn things doesn't work.....


Yep that thing was a royal pain in the I made my mine "magically fly"


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 21:12:11


Post by: Eilif


 Scipio Africanus wrote:
 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
The new SM kit, the way the arms are positioned you have to use the instruction booklet to get the arms right, the old kit was nice and easy the right arms were place together.


Only thing I don't like about the current kit is the fact that all (an I mean all the guns) are on the hand. I'd really like a guy holding a gun in the left hand, or, y'know, at his side.


I was also unaware that the base kits had changed. Seems pretty silly to me. I bash GW prices all the time, but one thing you always got with GW kits was an incredible degree of modularity and ease of customization. Being able to quickly swap weapons among basic space marines and even with IG was a nice feature. Especially since you didn't have to worry about cutting them apart.

This seems like a definite step back.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 21:23:17


Post by: Knockagh


 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Centurions....just no please go away..


Preach it brother!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 21:29:26


Post by: OverwatchCNC


Drop Pods. I hate the drop pod models so much that I buy all my drop pods already built by someone else through ebay or bartertown. I never want to build one again.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 21:30:33


Post by: SkavenLord


Assuming by anoying kit you mean the most annoying one to keep together, personally, I'd have to say the Zoanthrope. Don't get me wrong, the model doesn't look bad, but It's really kind of a pain to glue it to the base when the majority of its body weight is leaning forwards, making you hold the thing in place for a good 20 minutes hoping it doesn't fall over as the glue is drying.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 21:32:50


Post by: OverwatchCNC


kb305 wrote:
 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
The new SM kit, the way the arms are positioned you have to use the instruction booklet to get the arms right, the old kit was nice and easy the right arms were place together.


it's not that bad. check the numbers on the sprue. the ones that have similar labels go together, you shouldn't need the instructions.


Agreed, I built all 30 of mine without even glancing at the instructions.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 21:36:53


Post by: majendie


What's wrong with the Centurions? I put a few together for my FLGS and they were fine. Really very well made kits, without any trouble putting them together...

Eldar tanks, the stock Falcon/Fire Prism/Wave Serpent chassis. Top portion has nothing to hold it in place, and has a tendency to curve upwards. So you have to get your glue in place then hold it tightly until it's welded properly or it separates upwards. Very annoying.

On the other hand, the new Eldar kits, particularly the Wraithknight, are a joy to put together. Really great examples of excellent injection moulding (with the small exception of the shoulder pads on the 'knight, since they have very little in the way of self correcting mate surfaces.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 21:44:00


Post by: Tressel


Hands down the worst kit I ever assembled was the "unseen" Marauder for Battletech. I have never met anyone in my life that was able to assemble one of those without throwing it across the room or gluing their hands together.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/21 22:23:00


Post by: 12thRonin


2nd edition metal landspeeder.

2nd edition metal big bug Tyranids.

Nyss Hunters.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 00:12:04


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


My Revell B-17G scale model... It's detailed enough to be bloody annoying... the interior bits actually, literally requiring forcep devices to install. Tamiya has some fiddly plastic pieces, but they actually tend to be big enough I dont require special tools to build.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 01:16:43


Post by: Scipio Africanus


I seriously don't get the problem with Rhinos? I've put together at least 15 of them and I've always found it one of the easier kits to put together.

It takes me an hour or two. Seriously, aside from the back door not closing (I don't glue the chassis together, so that's cool) there's absolutely nothing I find irritating about the Rhino.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
majendie wrote:
What's wrong with the Centurions? I put a few together for my FLGS and they were fine. Really very well made kits, without any trouble putting them together...

Eldar tanks, the stock Falcon/Fire Prism/Wave Serpent chassis. Top portion has nothing to hold it in place, and has a tendency to curve upwards. So you have to get your glue in place then hold it tightly until it's welded properly or it separates upwards. Very annoying.

On the other hand, the new Eldar kits, particularly the Wraithknight, are a joy to put together. Really great examples of excellent injection moulding (with the small exception of the shoulder pads on the 'knight, since they have very little in the way of self correcting mate surfaces.


this thread wasn't intended just for kits that are hard to put together, but kits you don't like. I don't like the centurion kit because the models have predefined poses and far too many plates of armour to look cool.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 01:40:50


Post by: Breotan


FW's Storm Eagle kit. That thing is so incompetently done I actually wanted to throw mine against a wall. Never had that happen before.

Old metal Talos. The thing was a shoddy, all metal kit and the top and bottom halves of the main body didn't fit together properly.



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 02:01:39


Post by: Ruberu


I had problems with the Vendetta kit, mainly the cockpit, it just did not go together well. The pilots made it tricky to put the windows on. Another one are the older-new gen Saurus Calvary. The Cold Ones did not go together and left cracks in the head that needed to be filled with green stuff. Then for Bolt Action, the guns are so brittle that they break when I try to remove them from the sprew. Also, I spray the guns black then color the metal with a soft graphite pencil, it gives the guns a real WW2 blueing look, but the guns are so brittle I have broken them in the process. Same with my 28mm Romans, their swords and spears are just too thin and easy to break.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 07:11:32


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


 Gertjan wrote:

There is a special place of hatred reserved for the new malifaux plastics though. I love the models but the building is horrible. They have such tiny fragile components that with my big hands I have to ask my gf to glue some components as my big fingers can't deal with them. But then again, that might be personal.


Personally, I love the new Malifaux plastics (except for their prices). They go together like a puzzle, challenging but not tedious. However, I do end up using tweezers, bright light and an inordinate amount of squinting.

For kits I hate--restic. Anything restic. Everything restic. Damn the black heart and rotten soul of the mamzer who brought that stuff into our hobby.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 07:19:24


Post by: riburn3


Any Dark Elf raider or vehicle kit. I'm not sure how many times I've accidently impaled a finger on a spike, but it's a lot.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 07:25:57


Post by: Matt.Kingsley


Tomb King Skeleton Warriors... annoying to get off the sprue without damaging legs/heads/arms and even bodies, painfully annoying to put together


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 07:33:36


Post by: GreyHamster


I've never had an issue with the new marine design. I actually had already started magnetizing hands at the wrist for some sergeants and veterans so they could switch from holding a gun to a melee weapon, and had to go around chopping out pistol grips from all sorts of things to get it to work well. I'm also one of those people that has no issues with Rhinos. I literally have a score of them in various colors.

I actually find the new Broadside kit mildly annoying, a lot of oddly placed gates and zero posability for something you ostensibly take in squads most of the time. Also, the inability to use half their support system pieces if you build both the SMS and PR mounts. It's also a pain in the ass to magnetize, as are Centurions. Daemon princes are rife with options and yet so utterly monopose. In general, I hate monopose kits that don't magnetize easily. Especially if it's finecast with all those gates on top of detail.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 07:38:40


Post by: H.B.M.C.


The old Forge World Stormblade. I... hate that thing.

And the metal Khorne Herald on Jugger. Fething thing has one contact point with the ground. ONE!

 master of ordinance wrote:
The reseen Marauder for Battletech. Going together is a little tough..... But the big problem comes from painting it. I have to varnish every few layers or the paint rubs off at the edges.


The Marauder ain't as pad as the 2nd generation Blood Asp. That thing actually gained some impromptu flight lessons after I got sick of trying (and failing) to put it together.


 Vaktathi wrote:
The old Chimera and Leman Russ kits were annoying in that they had tons of road wheels (that served no purpose and could not be seen) that were required to assemble the kit.


After you put together 55 such kits (split almost evenly between the two), that stops being an issue. After doing so many you can almost do it with your eyes closed.



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 07:46:13


Post by: Stuebi


Trollblood Fennblades. Almost all of them hold their swords with both arms, meaning you have to bend the parts to glue them. It gets really annoying.

Hoarluk Doomshaper. Im POSITIVE his Backpack was specifically designed to piss me off.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 08:20:55


Post by: carlos13th


Wargames Factory (Non Mounted) Samurai kit. Fiddly as hell the swords snap easily and the posts look unnatural.

Pretty much any restic kit.

Anything that combines restic or plastic with metal parts that you have to glue together.



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 08:24:16


Post by: snurl


That silly-looking Empire circus wagon-telescope kit. Why?
Just why?


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 09:36:38


Post by: Mecha_buddha


I have yet to come across a GW kit that annoys me.

I will say basically any of the newer Battletech sculpts from Iron wind are gak. I have done about 20 for our gaming group and the newer the sculpt the more parts (needlessly) it comes in. like the archer 6w has 1 antenna cast on the torso and one separate you need to glue one? why? the arms tend to lack detail in the under arm area so you can only pose the models one way without it looking stupid.

The one that stands out is the Goliath 2H variant. Parts are torso, rocket pods x6, cannons x2 legs x4

Its out of scale, and a quad, so it doesn't fit on a standard 32mm hex base unless you pose it a certain way. Its in a "run pose" so only 2 legs actually contact the base, great, pin it. Each of the legs have a cone on the top that fits in a socket on the body. Because the cast is always poor, there is flash on the cone, great file it, and flash in the socket on the body, broke 2 blades trying to get enough out to fit the legs, better pin those too. The rocket pods all have a 1mm nipple that goes into a divet on the body, more pins. cannons? slipped mold, unfixable, scratch build new ones out of styrene.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 09:56:33


Post by: monders


Stegadon.

When I got back in to The Hobby a few years ago, I bought a Lizardman battalion and a Steagdon. Back in my day (when all this were fields and Mars Bars were as a big your head), superglue was fine for gluing plastic, so that's what I started putting it all together with.

BIG mistake.

The Stegdon Howdah STILL won't go together, even after being stripped, sanded and plastic glued. Incredibly frustrating.

The worse kit though, for me, is the Lizardmen Cold One. All the same pose, all facing the same way. None of the riders fit the mounts.

I'm on the verge of tears just thinking about it...

EDIT:

And what's the deal with that Daemon Prince with the long finger?!

I HATE that model.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 11:24:26


Post by: Grimtuff


 Breotan wrote:
FW's Storm Eagle kit. That thing is so incompetently done I actually wanted to throw mine against a wall. Never had that happen before.



Oh hell yes! Had to resort to covering it in zipstrips and dunking the entire thing in hot water to get it into shape.

Forgeworld. Making terrible resin kits for 40k fanbois since 1998.

 monders wrote:
Stegadon.

When I got back in to The Hobby a few years ago, I bought a Lizardman battalion and a Steagdon. Back in my day (when all this were fields and Mars Bars were as a big your head), superglue was fine for gluing plastic, so that's what I started putting it all together with.


I'm gonna assume you used GW glue.



I use superglue for everything. GW's piss poor excuse for superglue is the problem.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 11:34:49


Post by: Ignatius-Grulgor


Gotta be the decimator daemon engine kit, those three part legs in resin that doesn't fit together quite right are a nightmare for posing it without it falling apart in your hands. Fortunately it's very pretty even if it's far too expensive points wise.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 13:40:58


Post by: monders


 Grimtuff wrote:


I'm gonna assume you used GW glue.



I use superglue for everything. GW's piss poor excuse for superglue is the problem.




You may be right, though it was a couple of years ago.

Their plastic glue was worse. I now use the blue bottle, needle tipped stuff form the model shop. FAR better.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 13:44:58


Post by: Trasvi


The new Tau Broadsides.

Not that there is anything particularly wrong with the models per se; just that they pale in comparison to the Riptide kit released at the same time.
The broadside elbows and knees are at a fixed angle and the shoulders have very limited range of motion. Compare this to the Riptide, which has poseable knees ankles and elbows.

Krootox. Just.... no.
The plastic PP Dire Troll kit. Just because it looks SO derpy compared to the old metal model.
and Troll Fennblades - as someone said earlier, they come with two parts which are literally impossible to put together without bending the plastic first.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 13:47:13


Post by: Valkyrie


The Lychguard kit is such a pain in the arse. The joints for the wrists are so thin, any slight movement has a good change of snapping the Warscythes off. The entire Necron range in general suffers from that issue.

Also, the vanes on the Warp Talon Jump Packs. I decided to add them to my Raptors since they look pretty cool; within a few games they were removed since every time I get the squad out there's a few vanes lying at the bottom of the box.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 14:02:49


Post by: master of ordinance


Tressel wrote:
Hands down the worst kit I ever assembled was the "unseen" Marauder for Battletech. I have never met anyone in my life that was able to assemble one of those without throwing it across the room or gluing their hands together.


I did neither..... I glued my right thumb to the Mechs left arm.....
Although, getting it together wasnt as bad as i thought it was going to be. However, transportation is a pain because those arms like coming off. Oh, and painting it. I had to varnish every few layers to keep the paint on.
Its a great model when done, its just a pain to do.

Im not sure if it counts, but every kit i have put together with modern GW glue. I swear, some of them have fallen apart just from being looked at too much. I have started waiting for them to fall apart, and when they do i clean off the old glue and repair it with the new stuff i am now using.

Oh, and the Brood Howler from Darkage. That this looks simple to assemble, being in only three pieces and a base. Until you realise that all of the models vast weight rests on one thin ankle joint. After several breakages, even after pinning, i have added support in the form of a tree stump that one of the arms are holding.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 14:05:08


Post by: swampyturtle


The menoth kit for the harbringer and the Avatar. Both of those kits nearly made me want to throw them against a wall. Terrible terrible design...


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 14:53:04


Post by: Gitkikka


Utilikilts. I hate seeing neckbeards sashaying around in them, and...

Oh, kits.

This goddamn thing:


Ral Partha's Thone of Bone. I've had one for nearly thirty years. I take it out of storage every couple years to actually build it once and for all, and fail miserably each time. Plus it's an old lead kit, so it's entire (considerable) weight is supported by skinny skelly legs, so I don't even know if it'll stay together.

 Breotan wrote:
Old metal Talos. The thing was a shoddy, all metal kit and the top and bottom halves of the main body didn't fit together properly.


Testify!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 15:10:15


Post by: Chaos chump


 Valkyrie wrote:
The Lychguard kit is such a pain in the arse. The joints for the wrists are so thin, any slight movement has a good change of snapping the Warscythes off. The entire Necron range in general suffers from that issue.


It took me forever to make those stupid wrist joints work, then storing them safely takes far too much case space.

Used with the staff stick ends instead of scythe, and on warriors to be crypteks, but the wrist issue issue with the kit is the same!



Everyone says Necron wariroers are tough too, but i didnt have mush problem. The attachment to the sprue of the head is stupid though..


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 15:30:26


Post by: alphaecho


Dystopian Legions Britannian Light Dragoons. Quirky, fun-looking models once built however nearly ended up as wall-embedded monuments to anger prior to that end state.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 16:45:00


Post by: Locclo


So far, the only kit I think I really hate are the old Tau Broadsides and Crisis Suits (new ones might be the same, but I haven't actually bought any of the new ones ). With both kits, it is a massive pain in the ass to get them to stand level without one leg being at a weird angle, because for some unfathomable reason, you have to assemble both legs separately, then attach them to the torso. Maybe I'm just being an idiot when it comes to modelling, but I just hated trying to do the legs. Not only that, but because these are Tau, they have flimsy little ankles, so it's incredibly easy for a model to break at the feet, which is tons of fun to glue back together.

As for the Broadsides, well, let me start by saying that there's a reason GW switched over to using units that were entirely made of plastic, rather than mixing the two. The railguns on the Broadside were just ridiculous, extending off a few inches and attaching to the model by a teeny tiny spot of plastic. If you so much as look at them wrong, they're gonna snap off.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 16:53:09


Post by: gossipmeng


The firewarrior kit has horrible mould lines - all over the backpack, thigh armour, and ripples in their arm cloth...... you will lose detail trying to clean them up :(


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 17:56:11


Post by: lord_blackfang


WayneTheGame wrote:
Golgo13 wrote:
I don't like unfinished Unit boxes.. Privateer press has a few of them left but are slowly discontinuing them and replacing them with full unit boxes. Because they care about their customers. If a unit is X members you should get everything you need to field them in one BOX period.. If a unit can field a weapon it should be in the box period. I think GW are experts at not giving you everything you need in one box; but that is part of there market strategi, it is Stupid and makes you lose customers...


This exactly. Nothing pisses me off more than looking at buying a squad and realizing that I also need to buy another box (or worse, more than one) to get the parts I need. It wasn't quite as bad when they had bitz because if I needed lets say a lascannon for a marine squad I could get the bitz via Mail Order, but without bitz now do they really expect me to buy a devastator box as well as a tactical squad box? Or worse, think of if you wanted a Devastator squad with 4x Lascannons; is their answer seriously to buy 2+ devastator boxes? Ridiculous.


Classic case of "GW can't win".

Half the people are complaining that the kits don't have all the options, the other half are complaining that they're being forced to pay for bitz they don't need.

Obvious solution: go PP style: no options, no bitz. Everybody's happy Oh, wait...


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 18:32:22


Post by: AllSeeingSkink


 lord_blackfang wrote:
WayneTheGame wrote:
Golgo13 wrote:
I don't like unfinished Unit boxes.. Privateer press has a few of them left but are slowly discontinuing them and replacing them with full unit boxes. Because they care about their customers. If a unit is X members you should get everything you need to field them in one BOX period.. If a unit can field a weapon it should be in the box period. I think GW are experts at not giving you everything you need in one box; but that is part of there market strategi, it is Stupid and makes you lose customers...


This exactly. Nothing pisses me off more than looking at buying a squad and realizing that I also need to buy another box (or worse, more than one) to get the parts I need. It wasn't quite as bad when they had bitz because if I needed lets say a lascannon for a marine squad I could get the bitz via Mail Order, but without bitz now do they really expect me to buy a devastator box as well as a tactical squad box? Or worse, think of if you wanted a Devastator squad with 4x Lascannons; is their answer seriously to buy 2+ devastator boxes? Ridiculous.


Classic case of "GW can't win".

Half the people are complaining that the kits don't have all the options, the other half are complaining that they're being forced to pay for bitz they don't need.

Obvious solution: go PP style: no options, no bitz. Everybody's happy Oh, wait...
Except GW would drop the bits and charge the same price for the kit.

If the models were more reasonably priced and bits were easy enough to get, I'd be happy to buy them separately. If the kits are expensive, I'm happier to have them in the box.

GW do something half way in between, kits are expensive, have some bits, but not enough to actually do the combos you might want, then if you want to buy extra bits, they mostly don't offer them without having to buy a whole extra kit... yeah, they can't win the hearts and minds of gamers pulling that stuff.

GW can win... they just have to stop appearing like they are trying to screw you at every 2nd turn and don't care about you at every other turn.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 18:59:16


Post by: GreyHamster


AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
WayneTheGame wrote:
Golgo13 wrote:
I don't like unfinished Unit boxes.. Privateer press has a few of them left but are slowly discontinuing them and replacing them with full unit boxes. Because they care about their customers. If a unit is X members you should get everything you need to field them in one BOX period.. If a unit can field a weapon it should be in the box period. I think GW are experts at not giving you everything you need in one box; but that is part of there market strategi, it is Stupid and makes you lose customers...


This exactly. Nothing pisses me off more than looking at buying a squad and realizing that I also need to buy another box (or worse, more than one) to get the parts I need. It wasn't quite as bad when they had bitz because if I needed lets say a lascannon for a marine squad I could get the bitz via Mail Order, but without bitz now do they really expect me to buy a devastator box as well as a tactical squad box? Or worse, think of if you wanted a Devastator squad with 4x Lascannons; is their answer seriously to buy 2+ devastator boxes? Ridiculous.


Classic case of "GW can't win".

Half the people are complaining that the kits don't have all the options, the other half are complaining that they're being forced to pay for bitz they don't need.

Obvious solution: go PP style: no options, no bitz. Everybody's happy Oh, wait...
Except GW would drop the bits and charge the same price for the kit.

If the models were more reasonably priced and bits were easy enough to get, I'd be happy to buy them separately. If the kits are expensive, I'm happier to have them in the box.

GW do something half way in between, kits are expensive, have some bits, but not enough to actually do the combos you might want, then if you want to buy extra bits, they mostly don't offer them without having to buy a whole extra kit... yeah, they can't win the hearts and minds of gamers pulling that stuff.

GW can win... they just have to stop appearing like they are trying to screw you at every 2nd turn and don't care about you at every other turn.


What I would've liked to see done is take those old special weapon sprues and heavy weapon sprues they make and sell them individually as well. You want lascannons? Buy one sprue and get two. GW already sells sprues found in box sets on their own, albeit at ridiculous prices (chaos upgrades being the worst offender), so it's not even much of a stretch from current operating procedure. Of course, the dream is that they'd make a dedicated small sprue with a single heavy weapon, the size of a Tau gun drone sprue, and sell those independently.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 19:04:22


Post by: marielle


Zvezda 15mmSd Kfz222


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 19:55:37


Post by: MajorStoffer


The plastic Baneblade.

The kit has two problems which are infuriating; otherwise it's pretty simple. The first is the upper hull. The kit is quite large, so most of it comes in multiple pieces to avoid warpage and such, but the main upper hull is a single, always bent, piece of plastic. It runs from the front of the tank where the heavy bolter and demolisher is, all the way to the exhaust and simply will not fit. I eventually gave up and made an impromptu gap-filler (didn't have greenstuff at the time, so used superglue and old, thick acrylic paint).

Additionally, the sponson heavy bolters. Their pretty fiddly to put together; requiring that the pieces be facing the right way and such, but the moron who made the instruction manual photographed them head-on, so you can't see how any part of them are supposed to be orientated. I didn't even know what I was looking at; just grey vertical lines with a number pointing to them.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 20:27:58


Post by: Ultra Grey


Penitant Engine. After building one, I swore I would never build another. And I haven't. In fact, since GW has no interest in SOB, neither do I. The old hybrid Landspeeder Typhoon was pretty sucktastic as well.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/22 20:34:57


Post by: Desubot


Il toss my hat in again with drop pods and fire warriors

Iv been a metal TFC and it wasn't all that bad.

Though bringing out a ball peen to get it together probably says something.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 11:16:35


Post by: master of ordinance


Ultra Grey wrote:
The old hybrid Landspeeder Typhoon was pretty sucktastic as well.

This.
I have one of those old hybrid Typhoons. The left launcher has come off. I do not have it within me to repair it, atleast not yet.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 11:30:26


Post by: vascosantos


Any metal from any range or warma/hordes plastic"resin" kit, the molding lines and lack of poses are just horrible


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 15:08:30


Post by: snurl


Pinning will fix many problems. But kit designers need to make parts big enough to drill into.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 15:24:02


Post by: kronk


The New DV models are gorgeous, but HOLY gak do they have a lot of bling to paint on each model!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 15:24:56


Post by: reds8n


The Ghost ark.


Has 10 necron passengers inside it, each of which consists of 5 or 6 separate, very small and very fiddly bits.

My ones are empty.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 15:40:26


Post by: Medium of Death


Just wanted to jump in a defend the Lycheguard/Praetorian kit. The wrists match up with certain arms. If you mismatch the arms/hands it becomes a nightmare.

 reds8n wrote:
The Ghost ark.


Has 10 necron passengers inside it, each of which consists of 5 or 6 separate, very small and very fiddly bits.

My ones are empty.


I think if you build it that way it ends up looking better. Less hassle and a better result! Woo!

The Monolith annoyed me greatly. It just doesn't go together very well... probably the age of the kit but I heard that it's not an uncommon problem.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 15:42:24


Post by: kronk


 reds8n wrote:
The Ghost ark.


Has 10 necron passengers inside it, each of which consists of 5 or 6 separate, very small and very fiddly bits.

My ones are empty.


LAZY!

(I have drop pods where I didn't model the inside stuff because, feth it)


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 15:44:53


Post by: cerbrus2


Anything that incorporates Resin and Plastic. Fellblade Tracks, And Demios RHino tracks are by far the worst Kits I have done thus far.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 15:53:13


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


vascosantos wrote:
Any metal from any range or warma/hordes plastic"resin" kit, the molding lines and lack of poses are just horrible



I honestly don't mind the WM/H kits for their "poses" what does really bug me are the mold lines..... in my experience GWs are worse in scale (as in, larger mold lines) but PPs are just in the worst places (I've gotten rid of some awesome detailed sculpting due to the mold line being ON that detailing... looking at you Convergence light vectors!)


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 15:55:46


Post by: The Division Of Joy


 reds8n wrote:
The Ghost ark.


Has 10 necron passengers inside it, each of which consists of 5 or 6 separate, very small and very fiddly bits.

My ones are empty.


If they aren't there, I assume an opponent can shoot through the gaps



Kroot for me, so.many.little.bits.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 16:00:59


Post by: Chaos chump


 reds8n wrote:


My ones are empty.


Look better empty too. It would annoy me too much to have them in the model, even when they're disembarked..


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 16:10:47


Post by: reds8n


My justification is that it'll make it really hard to paint with them in it and I can use the bits as markers, terrain etc etc .


None of this will happen, but I like to put the effort into my delusions.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 16:21:43


Post by: sing your life


Nyss Hunters are not a fun kit to make.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 16:46:10


Post by: Eggs


Not kits I hate, but kits that have needed a huge amount of patience - the infinity aleph starter box, and in particular the dakini tacbots. Just tiny, tiny parts. Getting those shin plates on required tweezers, and a rock steady hand...


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 16:54:38


Post by: curran12


Going old school here.

Epic 40k Ork Gargants/Great Gargants.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/23 18:03:10


Post by: oadie


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Any kit (modern) that puts a sprue gate (or mould edge) over detail
This. On the topic of mold design, I'm actually somewhat annoyed by the whole "hidden mold line" design philosophy. While it sounds great, tolerances just aren't tight enough (with many companies, at least), come production time, to make "hidden" mold lines actually hidden. If you're even moderately picky about model prep, you're now left with mold lines (shift, usually - not just simple flash) in the least accessible areas, instead of over broad faces where the fix would be more necessary, but infinitely easier. Armored limb has a rounded knee/elbow cop? Run it straight down the middle, where a quick sanding erases any presence and the contour is easy to maintain. Running it around the perimeter gives me a lopsided piece of armor that I can't clean up, thanks to the surrounding plates.

Materials are my other main gripe. I have no problems with GW/Mantic styrene or pretty much any metals, but I hate materials that are either incredibly brittle (whatever styrene/glass hybrid Battlefront used for the Open Fire! PaK40s - one had two breaks before I even opened the box, and cracked again during removal) or don't abrade well (Bones plastic is somewhat annoying, Mantic sprueless plastic/restic is worse - not to mention the hideous tear-outs I find on nearly every part where it originally joined the sprue).

As for specific kits, I'm currently trudging through the Open Fire! Shermans, so they're certainly the freshest annoyance. Aside from the whole "we messed up, so go ahead and gut the whole inside of the right-hand side/track piece and see what you can do" issue that is already well documented, the tops have the same fit issues that most people hate about Rhino-chassis vehicles. Without meticulous dry-fitting, shaving, gap-filling, etc. you'll never get them flush - the little guides and ledges are all there, the upper hull simply doesn't fit into them.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 12:25:41


Post by: 3rdGen


Old DE Ravagers and talos


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 12:59:38


Post by: Jadenim


Any of the orginal Tau plastics (Firewarriors, Crisis Battlesuits and Devilfish hulls); they all seem to have similar problems with mold misalignment/slip and/or distortion.

I've spent endless, frustrated, hours clamping battlesuit bodies, filling joint lines on Devlifish and trimming flash on Firewarriors.

None of which is helped by the super-clean look that I want to achieve with Tau.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 13:14:48


Post by: mitch_rifle


necron vehicles, landraider kit and any of that restic crap that mantic uses


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 13:21:52


Post by: H.B.M.C.


What bugs you about the Land Raider kit?


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 16:47:52


Post by: Locclo


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What bugs you about the Land Raider kit?


You mean the fact that it costs an arm and a leg isn't enough?


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 16:50:49


Post by: Sekai


I hate with a burning passion the Drop Pod kits.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 17:04:32


Post by: martin74


For GW, the Grey Knight power armor box. The two handed swords/arms are just a pain to allign properly.

For Malifaux, there was an ease to the metal models. Now, the Guild Riflemen box was great looking, but, a pain to figure out how they went together. The plastic kits look great, but are spindley (not sure if that is a word).


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 17:20:42


Post by: PrettyLawful


Dwarf gyro copters, tomb scorpions and the tomb's kinds catapult were an absolute disaster to build. I'd rather stub my toe than build another metal tomb scorpion again.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 17:30:16


Post by: Overlord Thraka


I hate assembling Shoota Boyz. I'm constantly tempted to use slugga boyz just because they're so much easier to assemble.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 20:21:10


Post by: eohall


 kronk wrote:
The New DV models are gorgeous, but HOLY gak do they have a lot of bling to paint on each model!


This leads me to perhaps my #1 model peeve. I tend to see construction challenges as stimulating, but on the new GW models sculpted in whatever sort of CAD program they use, the relentless and unfixably ugly phenomenon of detail smear. I don't know if there's an established or technical term for what I'm talking about, but it is exemplified by the claws on the pelt on Kranon the Relentless' cloak. You need some sort of trompe-l'oiel painting technique to mask it.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/24 20:24:45


Post by: Agent_Tremolo


The PanOceanian Dragao was a true PITA to assemble. The Jotum was only marginally less annoying.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/25 11:26:06


Post by: dmthomas7


I have a metal Hive tyrant that defied nearly all methods I could think of to put together. Main problem surfaced from the legs. Glueing and pinning werre useless. Green stuff did nothing. Finally I turned to JB weld. It worked pretty well though this is the only model which it has lasted on. . .

I agree that the SM bike kits is also a pain. The two halves of the bike just never quite match up perfectly. Even the tires don't fit together well. I haven't had to put one together but I heard a friend swear frequently over a LSS.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/25 12:19:55


Post by: Flashman


Empire State Troops - Halberdiers specifically. Unless you glue the arms in exactly the right position and have them pointing in exactly the right direction, they have no chance of ranking up.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/25 12:21:31


Post by: snurl


I painted all ten million of the skulls on the Garden of Morr kit.
But one more skull probably would have pushed me over the edge.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/25 14:24:57


Post by: Necro


For me its Drop Pods and Monolith's. The edges never seem to line up.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/25 15:00:09


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


 Necro wrote:
For me its Drop Pods and Monolith's. The edges never seem to line up.



As far as GW kits go, I have to agree with you on the drop pods.


Another annoying kit that I had, was a 1:18 scale Ferrari F2001 Formula 1 car.... Combine the fiddly, flexible and fairly weak plastic that Tamiya uses, with the fact that those fiddly pieces have to hold the weight of the model (which honestly isn't all that much, its like a real formula car), and that they are tiny when trying to cut off the sprue, and it was a royal pain to assemble. I was just thankful that it looked great put together and on display.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/26 18:27:44


Post by: master of ordinance




See this? This is by far one of the worst models i have ever worked with. It is a beauty when done and really looks what it should and it is really easy to assemble... The problem?

You see that ankle in the foreground? All of the models vast weight rests on that one ankle. Is this the one that is molded onto the kit, thus making it inherently strong? No. It is the one held in place by a thin resin peg. With all of the models weight leaning forwards.
I have reglued it. Then i pinned it. Then i pinned it agin. Finally, on mine i added a tree stump to the base and had it gripping it in one of its claws, thus giving it extra support. But the amount of time i have had to re-pin and greenstuff that leg is insane.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/27 09:59:11


Post by: f2k


Currently, I reserve a remarkable hatred for the Dreadball Deluxe set which was anything but deluxe...

Here you have the very unfortunate combination of very soft, almost impossible to clean, restic and gigantic mould-lines cutting right across a lot of itze bitzy detail. I've currently thrown those guys back in the box while I wait for the time when I finally work up the energy to resculpt all the damage that cleaning the models did.


As a special mention, I would like to mention Battlefronts models. Yes, all of them! That company simply does not understand the how to design a kit so that it goes together easily. Point in case is the Panthers and King Tigers that I've recently assembled. Having to glue the skirts onto the side of the tanks is bad enough (but can be done with a few blobs of greenstuff carefully hidden behind the skirt) but gluing those front fenders on... Who on earth came up with the idea of have to glue a fairly meaty piece of metal to a resin hull, attached only by a razor-thin edge a few millimeters across? I've glued, re-glued, and then glued some more and I still hardly dare touch them. And unfortunately, in contrast with the skirts, there's no way of reinforcing the underside of the seam with greenstuff as that would be visible.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/27 10:05:52


Post by: master of ordinance


f2k wrote:


As a special mention, I would like to mention Battlefronts models. Yes, all of them! That company simply does not understand the how to design a kit so that it goes together easily. Point in case is the Panthers and King Tigers that I've recently assembled. Having to glue the skirts onto the side of the tanks is bad enough (but can be done with a few blobs of greenstuff carefully hidden behind the skirt) but gluing those front fenders on... Who on earth came up with the idea of have to glue a fairly meaty piece of metal to a resin hull, attached only by a razor-thin edge a few millimeters across? I've glued, re-glued, and then glued some more and I still hardly dare touch them. And unfortunately, in contrast with the skirts, there's no way of reinforcing the underside of the seam with greenstuff as that would be visible.


Leave the fenders off. Most German tanks lost these very quickly, primarily because the metal was so thin that it was easy to damage and the crew soon discarded the remains, rather than risk them damaging the tracks.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 11:24:25


Post by: somecallmeJack


anything metal/finecast because it's difficult to work with and super fragile once its done.

Valkyries are a hard one to get put together

I don't like the way guard are all holding their guns, I'd rather they were like marines and you could pose the arms before putting the gun on, I find that much easier to line up.

Centurions. The top half looks fine but the legs dont look like theyre able to bend properly. Multiators and to a lesser extent obliterators look crap too.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 11:27:35


Post by: Mr.Omega


That running Cadian legs piece in the infantry box is infuriating to keep glued at the worst of times.



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 12:30:14


Post by: Opeth30


Metal bone giant was a black hole of glue. Next I'd say the landraider kit. The top of the hull just doesn't seem to be the right size and is hard to get it glued with full contact. But by far my least favorite build is the TK skeleton warriors kit. Nothing like having a crucial torso/legs contact point the size of a pen tip.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 12:36:43


Post by: Krellnus


 Opeth30 wrote:
Metal bone giant was a black hole of glue. Next I'd say the landraider kit. The top of the hull just doesn't seem to be the right size and is hard to get it glued with full contact. But by far my least favorite build is the TK skeleton warriors kit. Nothing like having a crucial torso/legs contact point the size of a pen tip.

You think the TK one is bad? The VC one is about half the size


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 13:01:18


Post by: Boss Trav-Trav


Skinks from the Warhammer Fantasy range. Individually they're not a problem but together they are a nightmare. Ironically this is how they play in the game as well. The head and tail stick off over the edge of the little square base because they're backs are horizontal. Then they've got sticky off arms and javelins. I always run them as skirmishers because they're impossible to rank up in a tray.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 14:25:48


Post by: redbristles


Adding a second rank to an existing unit of 5 Cold One Knights is proving to be a major paint for me, their tails are just too long! If I had bought the two boxes together I could hve offset both ranks to either side to squeeze them in... Hindsight, and more money required.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 14:27:01


Post by: ruminator


40k wise I recall the following being a nightmare:

Thunderfire cannon without a vice and elasticbands
Power leads on tesla weapons for immortals
Ghost ark was just downright fiddly allround
SM bikes that never line up properly

Fantasy I've only done Bretts but the posing to get the knights to line up properly with lances and horse tails was majorly irritating, same with the bowmen. Oh and add a trebuchet with no instructions to the list as well.

Most annoying of late though has been the scale issues on some Malifaux models - giants and 4 year old children come to mind as the basis for some of the models.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 14:53:06


Post by: scottagain


Eldar Jetbikes. While I understand the frustration of the marine bikers, the Harley Davidson pose almost works for marines.

Seriously, the terrible monopose of the Eldar Guardian Jetbikes is the only reason I got Tau instead of starting Saim Hann. If that kit got updated, I would all but instantly drop $800+ to start them.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 15:12:54


Post by: KoganStyle


Most Malifaux minis before they started to re-do the sprue design were terrible. I'm currently building Ama No Zako and for her head alone, there are 6 separate pieces that have to be lined up!



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 15:45:11


Post by: l000babyseals


Hands down the Terrorgheist. The damn hind legs don't pose right, and the right leg's slot thats *supposed* to ft for proper linign up never does. Oh, and the rocks end up crooked if you accidentally mess up a leg, which results in breaking the model. Honourable mention to the neck piece that doesn't fit properly and you have to shave it down until it works.
In short, it doesn't hold itself up, nothing goes together smoothly, and you have to use green stuff to fix all the little joints that just don't fit smoothly


Automatically Appended Next Post:
It almost had a well deserved flying lession


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 16:18:43


Post by: redbristles


Thought of another one I must have buried in my mind due to the trauma; the plastic/metal SM devastators, particularly the Heavy Bolter, it simply wouldn't fit, in any way. I may have had a slight miscast, but I never found out, off to eBay it went.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 17:03:14


Post by: Cryptek of Awesome


 l000babyseals wrote:
Hands down the Terrorgheist. The damn hind legs don't pose right, and the right leg's slot thats *supposed* to ft for proper linign up never does. Oh, and the rocks end up crooked if you accidentally mess up a leg, which results in breaking the model. Honourable mention to the neck piece that doesn't fit properly and you have to shave it down until it works.
In short, it doesn't hold itself up, nothing goes together smoothly, and you have to use green stuff to fix all the little joints that just don't fit smoothly
Automatically Appended Next Post:
It almost had a well deserved flying lesson


Surprised to hear that about the Kit - I thought GW big plastic kits were getting better. I know I put together an Ogre Thundertusk and it was a joy to build.

BTW - all these posts are very funny, in an 'I can totally empathize with you!' kind of way.

My #1 worst kit is the Necron Monolith. I don't know how you mess up what is essentially a big plastic box but they did. I started by fitting he central internal pillar snugly into the base, and then the top snugly on to that - everything else went to hell in a warped, poorly aligned plastic handbasket.

The walls don't line up properly and at some point the connection switches from one wall glued 'on top' to being glued underneath the adjacent wall. All of the connections are just a mm thick slice of bendy plastic and when I finally got everything lined up and more-or less glued together, I realized that the central pillar was about half an inch too short and the top of the pyramid was sunk down inside. I awakened many slumbering star gods with my curses as I had to tear the entire thing apart, scrape off glue, prop up the central pillar and start all over again...


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 17:56:15


Post by: Nevelon


 redbristles wrote:
Thought of another one I must have buried in my mind due to the trauma; the plastic/metal SM devastators, particularly the Heavy Bolter, it simply wouldn't fit, in any way. I may have had a slight miscast, but I never found out, off to eBay it went.


Yup, those were bad. Having to line up and glue 3-4 parts simultaneously, or hope you got the angle right so everything clicked. The new plastic ones are nice though.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 17:57:57


Post by: kronk


The old metal hurricane bolters for the Land raiders. You have to line up the shaft, fidly guns, and then not knock them back off when you put the "caps" on.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 18:18:48


Post by: machineuk


Plastic SM scouts, just for the guy with the Heavy Bolter.
Could not get both arms to fit on at the same time, only model i've ever given up on building.
Perseverance got me through building plastic/metal devastators, the scout lies half built in my bits box to this day, more than a year after i bought the kit.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/28 18:25:55


Post by: Opeth30


 redbristles wrote:
Adding a second rank to an existing unit of 5 Cold One Knights is proving to be a major paint for me, their tails are just too long! If I had bought the two boxes together I could hve offset both ranks to either side to squeeze them in... Hindsight, and more money required.


I've just run into this problem today too lol. I have no Idea what to do. I might have to put a few on rocks in the back so the heads clear the tails.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 07:20:05


Post by: gunslingerpro


Master Necrotech Mortenebra. The legs. Dear God the tiny, easy to knock off legs!

Followed very closely by the horns on the MKI Satyxis Raiders.

I actually like the models better than the updates, but my god they are a bitch to keep together.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 08:40:10


Post by: redbristles


 Opeth30 wrote:
 redbristles wrote:
Adding a second rank to an existing unit of 5 Cold One Knights is proving to be a major paint for me, their tails are just too long! If I had bought the two boxes together I could hve offset both ranks to either side to squeeze them in... Hindsight, and more money required.


I've just run into this problem today too lol. I have no Idea what to do. I might have to put a few on rocks in the back so the heads clear the tails.


Glad to hear it's not just me, although I do sympathise! That's an interesting idea with the rocks, the only thing I can think of doing so far is to basically re-base the originals so they can rank up with the new ones but I don't really want to do that as they're completely finished. Dilemma!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 08:46:16


Post by: Schmapdi


The first thing that comes to mind for me are the Ogre Kingdoms infantry kits.

Not only do you get the same two (very slightly different) bodies for the WHOLE army.

But the shoes! The tiny little ogre shoes that have a mold line running all the way around them and going between little rivets.

I used to get the worst hand cramps holding onto those tiny shoes will working to scrape that PITA mold line off. 2 per ogre x 33 ogres in my army (made from the plastic kits that is) = a lot of damn hand cramping.

Secondly - I love Super Dungeon Explore - but those are a pain to clean up properly. Soft plastic, a lot of easy to miss mold lines, prebuilt (the later kits) which makes some areas very difficult/impossible to get a knife in to clean them up.

Fortunately - each expansion seems to be slightly better than the last in terms of cleanup. Unfortunately - I think it'll take 3-4 more expansions to hit "good."


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 09:04:44


Post by: motyak


Domaru Butai with chain rifle. He may be my first infinity model that I have to pin, and I really don't want to. But for some reason he just hates me and my glue.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 10:16:22


Post by: master of ordinance


gunslingerpro wrote:Master Necrotech Mortenebra. The legs. Dear God the tiny, easy to knock off legs!

Followed very closely by the horns on the MKI Satyxis Raiders.

I actually like the models better than the updates, but my god they are a bitch to keep together.


I know someone at my club whom got Mortembra. He gave up on the legs in the end. She actually dosnt look to bad without them.

Nevelon wrote:
 redbristles wrote:
Thought of another one I must have buried in my mind due to the trauma; the plastic/metal SM devastators, particularly the Heavy Bolter, it simply wouldn't fit, in any way. I may have had a slight miscast, but I never found out, off to eBay it went.


Yup, those were bad. Having to line up and glue 3-4 parts simultaneously, or hope you got the angle right so everything clicked. The new plastic ones are nice though.


Please don't. I have an unassembled HB hybrid marine awaiting assembly


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 17:03:29


Post by: Samurai_Eduh


Any WarmaHordes metal infantry. WHY MAKE A METAL MODEL HAVE A TINY JOIN MID ARM! Its too small to mpin and the surfce area is so small glue doesnt really work.

I'm looking at you, Lord of the Feast!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 17:08:20


Post by: fishy bob


Daughters of the Flame (Warmachine, Protectorate of Menoth)

I love those models, but the arms just won't stick to the bodies. I have to sit and hold them for several minutes and with my attention span that's not easy.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 17:41:40


Post by: PrehistoricUFO


 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Tomb King Skeleton Warriors... annoying to get off the sprue without damaging legs/heads/arms and even bodies, painfully annoying to put together


Back when I played Vampire Counts, there were many instances where a shin bone or arm snapped off the skeleton sprue.

On that note, how different are the VC skeleton and TK skeleton sprues? I really thought the only differences would be some adornments/heads . . .?


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 18:01:52


Post by: Goremaul


Convergence of Cyriss. Any of the plastic models; the mold lines on them are everywhere, and nasty! Also the medium infantry (which I love the looks of), but are in about 13 parts each...

Oh, and Clockwork Angels/Aurora. The wings are awesome looking, but on the Angels connect via what is basically a 2mmx1mm flat plate on the back. Aurora's wings are in 3 pieces, with each wing connecting to a small backpack thingy. The ~2mm brass rod I put into the backpack was almost the size of it... Not going to break anytime soon though.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/29 20:54:28


Post by: master of ordinance


DarkAge Skard Buzzblades. They come in three parts, the main body and the two lower arms. How are these chunky metal arms connected? By flat butt joints. If i have to re-glue these one more time.....


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/30 01:34:08


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


 Goremaul wrote:
Convergence of Cyriss. Any of the plastic models; the mold lines on them are everywhere, and nasty! Also the medium infantry (which I love the looks of), but are in about 13 parts each...

Oh, and Clockwork Angels/Aurora. The wings are awesome looking, but on the Angels connect via what is basically a 2mmx1mm flat plate on the back. Aurora's wings are in 3 pieces, with each wing connecting to a small backpack thingy. The ~2mm brass rod I put into the backpack was almost the size of it... Not going to break anytime soon though.


Thats a good heads up on the other minis I just recently got into Cyriss, and yeah, the light vector model I got had some horrible mold lines. As I said earlier in the thread (or maybe it was another GW bashing thread), the problem isn't the SIZE of the mold lines I had, it was WHERE they were. On the light vector I got, one mold line was literally in the center of the eye.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/30 01:41:08


Post by: canadianguy


the slannesh daemon chariots


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/30 01:43:10


Post by: malfred


Transfers.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/30 01:56:21


Post by: l000babyseals


canadianguy wrote:
the slannesh daemon chariots

Most painful thing I've ever built in my life. Even tops building a heldrake for pain


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/30 04:16:00


Post by: Opeth30


 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Tomb King Skeleton Warriors... annoying to get off the sprue without damaging legs/heads/arms and even bodies, painfully annoying to put together


Back when I played Vampire Counts, there were many instances where a shin bone or arm snapped off the skeleton sprue.

On that note, how different are the VC skeleton and TK skeleton sprues? I really thought the only differences would be some adornments/heads . . .?


the TK kit is still the pre undead book split sprue but with a khemri upgrade sprue added with the 6th ed tk book, where as VC got their own skeleton kit with the 8th book. (though VC players really should be buying the tk kit since it comes with 16 rather than 10)



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/30 21:51:13


Post by: Ashiraya


My Forgefiend. It was a nightmare to try to get all the four feet to be firmly on the ground.

My 2nd Chaos Terminator Lord was a massive pain as well to get to stand, but that is kinda my fault for making a heavily converted and dynamically posed miniature on a wobbly base.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/30 22:04:08


Post by: lucasbuffalo


 Zygrot24 wrote:
Dwarf gyro copters of any era.

QFT. I have assembled over 2k points of every 40k army and 3 different Fantasy armies and no model every made me hate my life as much as the metal Dwarven Gyrocoptor. It was made by the devil to test my faith in minis.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/30 22:04:43


Post by: ChaoticMind


 malfred wrote:
Transfers.


I agree Malfred, the worst thing to deal with is transfers. If they require exact placement transfers can make photo-etch biplane wires start to look easy.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/01/31 01:44:23


Post by: snurl


Ya know, it does make me wonder how the kits i built 40 years ago fit together much better than some of these new ones. Back then there was no CAD or Zbrush but somehow the product was superior.
You don't need to take my word for it, many of the same 1/35 Tamiya kits are still in production. Build one and see for yourself.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/01 00:48:48


Post by: Soggy Kittenz


Forge world DKOK. It woud be fine if the arms actually fit together, instead of having to greenstuff and bend each and every single guardsman...


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/01 02:45:15


Post by: Archangel-Dreadnought


The frelling dragon from "Super Dungeon Explore"....just didn't line up, good thing I have a heat gun, for shrink wrap, to make it pliable and fit.

Any two hand weapons are always a bit of a pain to glue.

the GW Ruin are another pain, they need to remold them with bigger tabs to help hold them together (the wall sections, Floors are fine).


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/01 04:40:54


Post by: DPBellathrom


VC skellies....built 40 of them before I just had to sell the army as I couldn't be bothered to mess about with the tiny connection points -.-

spent hours putting together the metal hive tyrant as a kid. tried again a while back and it whent together first time :/ was pretty salty after that.

and drop pods. I have nothing but utter respect to all those people out there who have 9 of them fully built.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/01 04:42:49


Post by: King of the Elves


Lord of the Feast from Hordes. Holy God.......


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/01 04:48:19


Post by: DPBellathrom


oh and deldar raiders. so much crap dangling off them and its a pain to line up the hull and the front so you get a flush fit.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/01 10:03:09


Post by: SorataZ


Any Infiniti kit I have tried ever. Jotuns, ARGGGH!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/01 10:23:33


Post by: TheCustomLime


I dislike the Aquila Strongpoint. While it is easy to assemble it lacks any sort of ability to customize it.

Also, I wish they had put in some more tabs since some pieces easily fall off.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/02 08:13:54


Post by: SaintTom


The Eldar guardians back when I got into the game during 3rd edition. They were my first kit of models, and I really loved the look of the Eldar.

I bring it home with my new glue and clippers and I can get the feet torso and head just fine, but the arms.. I hate the arms for them.. I glued and had my fingers stuck together for the rest of that night, with multiple washes finally getting them apart.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/02 08:30:56


Post by: MajorStoffer


 Soggy Kittenz wrote:
Forge world DKOK. It woud be fine if the arms actually fit together, instead of having to greenstuff and bend each and every single guardsman...


Sweet mother of god, someone who knows my pain.

I just finished peeling superglue, greenstuff and resin flakes off myself after putting 10 more of those fiends together. I've always wondered, maybe they're like the old plastic kits, where a specific set of arms is for each body, but I've as of yet not determined any correlation.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/02 19:45:41


Post by: Frankenberry


The first IG kit I ever built was the previous Leman Russ kit. So many god damn road wheels that are completely pointless, not to mention that the instructions are those trendy 3-D ones that are solid pictures so there's no fething way to figure out where things actually go.

I hated the metal kits for Warmahordes, the Skorne Warbeasts were a conglomeration of poorly fitted body parts and superglue. Pretty sure i never finished the heavy beast that came with the starter kit.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/03 00:52:22


Post by: Chad Warden


Nobble Blackwart and the Orc Shaman on War Wyvern

Pretty sure everyones Nobbla is broke, especially in a game like Blood Bowl where you are knocking down and turning over minis.

And the Orc Wyvern is a big metal model supported by one claw


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/03 09:42:56


Post by: master of ordinance


Im not sure if I have mentioned this but:
Every damn model I have assembled with GW glue. They fall apart if you so much as look at them too hard and scraping off the old glue is a pain.
I currently have a rolling repair list for these.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/03 10:21:53


Post by: Truth118


I just got the Gauss Pylon and I had to use a table saw to separate the actual pieces of the model from large blocks of resin.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/03 10:26:44


Post by: f2k


 Truth118 wrote:
I just got the Gauss Pylon and I had to use a table saw to separate the actual pieces of the model from large blocks of resin.


Is this a general issue with Forgeworld?

I've got a Thunderbolt fighter stashed away, waiting for the time when I feel like sawing those huge blocks of resin off.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/03 10:29:00


Post by: MWHistorian


Penitent Engines. The whole thing is this awkward metal mess where everything has to be pinned. EVERYTHING. The arms are these enormous gangly things that reach out and are connected by the weakest of ball socket joint. I've put two together and will never put another one together again. I wanted three, but I refuse to do another one.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/03 10:34:54


Post by: Trondheim


f2k wrote:
 Truth118 wrote:
I just got the Gauss Pylon and I had to use a table saw to separate the actual pieces of the model from large blocks of resin.


Is this a general issue with Forgeworld?

I've got a Thunderbolt fighter stashed away, waiting for the time when I feel like sawing those huge blocks of resin off.


No not in my experience but it happens from time to time it seems.

For me the vote goes to Landspeeders of any sort, alongside the Carmine Dragon from FW. That last one took me an ungodly amount of time and effort to finnish, I still get nigthmares about the wings falling of every few minuts after I had put them in place.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/03 15:17:35


Post by: Eggs


Chad Warden wrote:
Nobble Blackwart and the Orc Shaman on War Wyvern

Pretty sure everyones Nobbla is broke, especially in a game like Blood Bowl where you are knocking down and turning over minis.

And the Orc Wyvern is a big metal model supported by one claw


This! I have the old azhag on wyvern mostly base coated now. Pins through it everywhere to hold it together. Even then, the thing tips over because it's all top heavy.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/04 00:42:17


Post by: JoshInJapan


I had to set aside a Rust Forge storage container the other day. I just couldn't get it to stay square long enough for the plastic cement to solidify.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/06 00:51:39


Post by: Bronzefists42


Those damn Stormboyz earned themselves special place in hell for how often they break.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/06 16:58:51


Post by: ShadowMageAlpha


 Bronzefists42 wrote:
Those damn Stormboyz earned themselves special place in hell for how often they break.

Kit-bashing them is a right pain for me as well. I don't know if their arms are a bit special, but when I put regular slugga boy arms on them, they just don't seem to hold as well. It's infuriating.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 05:28:21


Post by: Greenizbest


The Ork Lootas/Burnas kit annoys me. It's not hard to assemble but you only get 4 Deffgunz per box. If I wanted to field 20 Lootas (A reasonable amount for 6e Orks), without resorting to conversions, I would have to spend $125 on 5 boxes. I'm also buying spare torsos and legs from ebay to make Burnas just so I don't feel like 50% of the box is going to waste.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 05:37:38


Post by: bleumike


The old metal eldar wraithlord.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 06:37:24


Post by: crazysaneman


Necron MONOLITHS.. just... please god no, make it stop...


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 06:53:46


Post by: Ascalam


This.

Built a bunch of them over the years... never got a single one perfect.

Fortress of Redemption. Looks good, but an absolute git to assemble and get to stay together. As to painting it... gah. Working on mine tonight.

Vengeance weapon batteries. Not that hard to assemble, but they are made out a seriously inferior plastic and the detail isn't as crisp as i'd like.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 13:05:41


Post by: Nevelon


bleumike wrote:
The old metal eldar wraithlord.


I’ve got one of those in parts, after several unsuccessful attempts to get it together. He’s destined to be parsed out for base decorations and objective markers.

Tall, massive, spindly, and graceful does not translate well into lead.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 14:52:46


Post by: Mr. Grey


 Greenizbest wrote:
The Ork Lootas/Burnas kit annoys me. It's not hard to assemble but you only get 4 Deffgunz per box. If I wanted to field 20 Lootas (A reasonable amount for 6e Orks), without resorting to conversions, I would have to spend $125 on 5 boxes. I'm also buying spare torsos and legs from ebay to make Burnas just so I don't feel like 50% of the box is going to waste.


Well, same issue if you want a mob of burnas... I wish they'd given you 6 bodies in the kit, with the parts to make 6 burnas/lootas, as well as Mek parts. Alternately, a box of 10 with enough parts to make either/or would have been even better.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 18:48:07


Post by: Ratius


Old metal Hive Guard.
Sweet jaysus, they simply do not work.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 19:50:26


Post by: Bossk_Hogg


 King of the Elves wrote:
Lord of the Feast from Hordes. Holy God.......


I've seen this a couple times, but didn't have a lot of trouble with mine. I just used some tiny bits/pins (P3) and he fit with minimal swearing involved. What gave you headaches?


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 20:18:00


Post by: Agamemnon2


 Nevelon wrote:
bleumike wrote:
The old metal eldar wraithlord.


I’ve got one of those in parts, after several unsuccessful attempts to get it together. He’s destined to be parsed out for base decorations and objective markers.

Tall, massive, spindly, and graceful does not translate well into lead.


Amusingly, I actually sought one of those guys out, and turned it into my Chronos, the Nightmare Child. A somewhat trying model to build, and took several weeks of work sessions just to pin all his extremities together. Especially since I sawed his knee out because I wanted to repose a leg.



Worth it? I do not know.



Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 20:42:30


Post by: Trondheim


 Ratius wrote:
Old metal Hive Guard.
Sweet jaysus, they simply do not work.


This kit deserves a special place in whatever bleak and tormentfilled afterlife that awaits such kits. A special mention also goes to the old metal Long fangs, not that they are so damnebale hard to assemebl but they look like hell






Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 21:17:05


Post by: The Dwarf Wolf


Mantic Games Forge Fathers Steel Warriors.

Its a pretty kit, can do good stuff, is very usefull for conversions and give you a nice bit of trouble...

But it always remember me of 3 months waiting and a poorly execution... They just could have been fantastic and come just fine.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/07 23:59:25


Post by: Ratius



This kit deserves a special place in whatever bleak and tormentfilled afterlife that awaits such kits.


I literally blew vodka/coke over my keyboard. A fellow tortured soul. Thank you for making me feel not alone.
Sigged btw.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/08 00:18:10


Post by: necrovamp


For non GW kits it has top be anything Airfix make or has made. For starters their planes are 1.72 and their kits 1/76 and Nothing lines up properly, I mean nothing, the last one I had (a PzIV) needed more filler than model. The plastic that is used (even the new plastic) is inadequate and flimsy, their figures are just blobs of rubbery plastic. Also they are overpriced, I saw their new line the other day and they wanted £8 for 1 vehicle or even a willys jeep! that's just wrong. My friend loves them for some reason.


For my GW choice...it has to be the old metal Tyranid gargoyles. They always needed pinning and always needed filler where the wings met the body or there was a huge gap, or the wings would fall off easy. not to mention they weren't balanced and so kept falling over when on the base. These models made me stop Tyranids and go Chaos Marine.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/08 17:43:21


Post by: Civik


SM Land Speeder, because lining up parts has always been a challenge. Bought two twelve years ago and the horror of putting them together put me off purchasing a third.

SM assault Marines... Again, line-up of seams on the jet packs is atrocious. I hate putting them together because it has to be fixed. I mean, the jet nozzles could have been a seperate piece so they could mold it whole.

Protectorate Exemplar Errants. So many fiddly bits and restic means I have to pin them or end up re-gluing so many times.

Anything restic, because you can't use solvents to weld them and it's frustrating.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/08 17:54:55


Post by: Trondheim


 Ratius wrote:

This kit deserves a special place in whatever bleak and tormentfilled afterlife that awaits such kits.


I literally blew vodka/coke over my keyboard. A fellow tortured soul. Thank you for making me feel not alone.
Sigged btw.


I do try my best to be a good comarde to other Nid players


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/08 18:02:15


Post by: master of ordinance


 necrovamp wrote:
For non GW kits it has top be anything make or has made. For starters their planes are 1.72 and their kits 1/76 and Nothing lines up properly, I mean nothing, the last one I had (a PzIV) needed more filler than model. The plastic that is used (even the new plastic) is inadequate and flimsy, their figures are just blobs of rubbery plastic. Also they are overpriced, I saw their new line the other day and they wanted £8 for 1 vehicle or even a willys jeep! that's just wrong. My friend loves them for some reason..


Oh dont.... I got a supposedly new mold Airfix M3 Lee/Grant for a Girls und Panzer fan build.
I still dont know how i managed to get it together so well. There was more flash than i have ever encountered ever. Even some of the ancient kits i have assembled did not have as much.
And then there was the miss aligned sections..... The top of the hull didnt want to fit onto the hull front/sides which in turn didnt want to fit together. Then the hull base didnt want to go on. Then the rear of the hull. the Engine deck and the lip behind the turret ring did not want to fit. And the turret..... the two sections where completely misaligned, the gun mounting is terrible and there is a massive gap below the mantle, which itself dosnt actually fit properly.
Never again.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/08 20:46:40


Post by: necrovamp


 master of ordinance wrote:
 necrovamp wrote:
For non GW kits it has top be anything make or has made. For starters their planes are 1.72 and their kits 1/76 and Nothing lines up properly, I mean nothing, the last one I had (a PzIV) needed more filler than model. The plastic that is used (even the new plastic) is inadequate and flimsy, their figures are just blobs of rubbery plastic. Also they are overpriced, I saw their new line the other day and they wanted £8 for 1 vehicle or even a willys jeep! that's just wrong. My friend loves them for some reason..


Oh dont.... I got a supposedly new mold Airfix M3 Lee/Grant for a Girls und Panzer fan build.
I still dont know how i managed to get it together so well. There was more flash than i have ever encountered ever. Even some of the ancient kits i have assembled did not have as much.
And then there was the miss aligned sections..... The top of the hull didnt want to fit onto the hull front/sides which in turn didnt want to fit together. Then the hull base didnt want to go on. Then the rear of the hull. the Engine deck and the lip behind the turret ring did not want to fit. And the turret..... the two sections where completely misaligned, the gun mounting is terrible and there is a massive gap below the mantle, which itself dosnt actually fit properly.
Never again.


I know your pain, I made one once. Those rubber tracks! eurgh!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/08 21:30:18


Post by: Trondheim


I discoverd this very evening a new unknow horror from the deepest darkest depths of hades when it comes to modeling kits! The old 2th Edition Hibe tyrant kits in all its forms and unholy glory!


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/08 22:03:37


Post by: BrotherOfBone


For me, the only kit I've had serious trouble with was the Forge World Stormblade and the Sentinel.

The Stormblade was because the entire top section came in one, huge chunk and it was bent so the middle sank in, so I had to run the taps and bend it ever, ever, ever so slowly back into place, and even then it only fit when I slapped a big load of superglue on the thing. Also I lost the driver's hatch, which shouldn't have even been a separate bit!
The Sentinel kit: The antennae always break off and the legs are a complete and utter state. They're a lot like the Battlesuit legs /but worse/. They come in a number of different parts, all of which have to be held together along with the torso.
Oh yes, and of course I have to mention the Rhino, the chassis just leaves huge gaps and they annoy me so much..
Oh yes, and anything finecast that has a spear, staff or sword. Those things NEVER STAY ON DAMMIT AND THEY DON'T GLUE BACK RIGHT, EVER. I'M LOOKING AT YOU NECRON OVERLORD, FINECAST LIBRARIAN, EMPEROR'S CHAMPION.


Kits that annoy you. @ 2014/02/09 14:24:20


Post by: sockwithaticket


The most recent metal Ikit Claw's Storm Daemon.

It. Will. Not. Align!