Daemon Prince, there's literally no negative side of being a Mortal-Turned Daemon if you simply go along happily with it. And since they count as their own race, I don't have to worry about being a grunt but a lord of chaos with my own private army.
Tau, farsight enclaves. Quality of life is not too bad, considering. Working towards a positive goal, no presence to be tormented in the warp, have a chance to affect things positively. Life span is not an issue since I doubt most imperial citizens live past 40
Bobthehero wrote: Death Korps Grenadier, for the reasons I mentionned in the last thread.
Why the hell would you choose a guy that has the life expectancy of a week compared to something that will spend all of eternity rife with happiness and pleasure as a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh?
As much as I despise the race, a New style Necron, effectively immortal, and if I get even reduced to atoms, I can be fixed and be good to go again in a minute or two.
A human perpetual that looks exactly how I do now in real life. All the girl action I can handle for the rest of time, frozen in my prime.
Other than a human? PLEASE biotransfer me in to a Necron body who belongs to a Royal Court. We get high-end models to live in for eternity, and our personalities, ambitions, experiences, and memories are all transferred over intact. I will see entire civilizations rise and fall through natural time passage, spend millennia watching Crypteks do a single calculation in the Celestial Orrery which culminates in the waving of a hand to end a star system. All of the wonders in the galaxy for me to experience and bear witness to!
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
No, that's not my "interpretation", there is nothing suggesting the Emperor protects those who worship him, or if he simply devours them as well like any other warp god. There's "interpretation of fluff" and then there's "making gak up".
Adeptus Astartes and to be more precise, A space wolf. Because I do love to make my own decisions, and not dance to the tune of the Inqusition or some musty old book
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
No, that's not my "interpretation", there is nothing suggesting the Emperor protects those who worship him, or if he simply devours them as well like any other warp god. There's "interpretation of fluff" and then there's "making gak up".
It's still a interpretation. Show me where is says that every soul gets torched by daemons when they die.
Ah, didn't think of that, well then if there's a proper source (who's to say demon worshippers don't make a few things or three to convice people to follow them) that shows that your soul either enter oblivion or get nommed by demons 100% of the time, then I'll stick with the oblivion thing.
Otherwise I'll stick with the Emperor thing and damn what some guy on the internet thinks about that.
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
No, that's not my "interpretation", there is nothing suggesting the Emperor protects those who worship him, or if he simply devours them as well like any other warp god. There's "interpretation of fluff" and then there's "making gak up".
It's still a interpretation. Show me where is says that every soul gets torched by daemons when they die.
In The First Heretic as well as in Betrayer. In 40k there is no afterlife but torment and eventual hellish oblivion. That's part of the true grimness of the setting, because there's no real escape from it.
Which is why I say Dark Eldar! That's pretty much the only way to be immortal, and thus avoid all that happy horsecrap. Sure, I have to feed on the misery of people around me, but that's okay. I'll take that as an alternative to having my psyche ripped to shreds by demons after I die.
Bobthehero wrote: Both books are before the Emperor is put on the throne, keep that in mind.
If anything, wouldn't he be stronger before being put on the throne?
That being said, there has still never been a single piece of fluff that indicates the Emperor gives any kind of afterlife protection to his faithful. I'm all about the 'everything is permitted, nothing is true' approach to canon that 40k has, but that particular theory has never come up from a reliable source in any scenario in-universe. (That I'm aware of, at any rate.)
That's fine, you can believe whatever you want about the fluff. I for one believe several things which the fluff NEVER directly supports at all. (Angron was the smartest of the Primarchs, the Emperor was actually a vat-grown psychic puppet and Malcador the Sigilite was the REAL Emperor, and a few others.) Just so long as we are up-front about what IS supported by the fluff and what isn't. (We don't want to mislead other users who might take our personal interpretations as observations based on evidence.)
As to the specific theory (the Emperor protecting souls after they die) it is an interesting one, but I don't know how much I like it in this setting. 40k, to me, is supposed to be ultimately depressing. You can carve out brief moments of happiness, but you have to know it's all going to end in tragedy. I think something that might be true, and which might be similar, is that individuals who are devout enough (Adeptas Sororitas certainly, but the lay worshipper probably not) would be able to essentially obliviate their own souls after death. Evaporation into nothingness with a peaceful thought of the Emperor's 'benevolence' is probably the absolute BEST I can see anyone hoping for.
I think part of the problem (at least to my own mind) is that it's also important that the Emperor be slaved to the Golden Throne. After all his hard work, all his struggles, the only thing it amounted to was him becoming the EXACT thing he didn't want: a figure of worship. He's probably even aware of it, on some level (that makes it so much more horrible) but the entirety of his mental energy is required just to keep the lights on, in a galactic sense. Mind-bogglingly horrible, that. And that's what makes it a perfect cornerstone of the franchise.
Desubot wrote: I dont think daemon is really a race nor do i think you had a choice in rankings.
For greatest happiness id be an ork.
Realistically probably a tau. with preference to earth caste but will take any.
There is no difference between Daemons and races made from things other than warp material, they're both life, albeit manifesting in different forms as daemons are entities that take material forms. Also, I'm just exploiting the OP, as a Daemon Prince is a unique organism separate from normal daemons or chaos astartes/humans as they're a symbiotic life-form.
Space Wolf, Bloodclaw under Harald Deathwolf, ride warbikes alongside the Wolf Lord, drink a lota booze; and should I live for a few more centuries, I just might make a wolf guard, meet Logan Grimnar, and then ride a big f-ing wolf while drinking lots of booze.
I always liked a little excerpt in Dark Heresy. It described that on certain planets, individuals believe that serving him meant an afterlife with him, in his protection. However, an acolyte's job is dangerous and, as they learn of the warp, of the perils of the realm, they find their beliefs broken to the reality that all that remains after death is to fade into nothing or to become a snack for some warp entity.
If we can be specific.... Daemon Prince! I'd love to have my own planet to just play with twisting and changing contrasting everything. If we can't really pick.... If we can't pick, orks. I might die fast but gosh darn will it be fun!
Dark Eldar, as they are the only 'free' race there is. Yeah they work under Vect, but they are free to do whatever they wont how ever they want. Every other race works under a banner, are told what to do either by commanders, gods, morals or psyche...Also sex, drugs and rock'n'roll
Sparkadia wrote: Dark Eldar, because, well, you know what they get up to on their day-to-day.
If you know what I mean.
Down side of getting your soul eaten. That's why being a Slaanesh marine is so much better all the fun of being a DE without the whole soul being eaten.
'Oo doesn't want to 'av der day consist of munchin' Squig Pies washed down wiv' Fungus Beer, kickin' some weedy Grotz around, headbuttin' a few gitz an' nickin' der teef, takin' a buggy fur a race round da camp while shoutin' WAAAAAAGHHH! an' shootin' off ya best gunz, laughin' at da Madboyz gettin' zapped by a Warphead, drinkin' more Fungus Beer an' den havin' a Brewhouse Bash, watchin' da pit fights before havin' wun yerself ta prove 'ow well 'ard yoo are an' den doin' it all ovva again da next day?
An Eldar (not sure who) once said that Orks evolved into a perfect society without angst or fear.
Sounds like being an Ork is basicaly having no negative feelings and to them the whole world is just a giant party.
"The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude."
- Uthan the Perverse, Eldar Philosopher
I'd probably be a Marine, either DA or SW maybe Salamanders. i know its kinda generic but i could live for a couple hundred years kill stuff be big have a big old family. life would be simple and i could do anything i wanted really. wouldnt get sick it wouldnt hurt when i stubbed my toe.
anyway heres the reasons for my choice.
DA- secretive and they dont really listen to anyone they just do what they want + they still have a primarch and are a couple of thousand strong. and i kinda like the getup they have going on. plus they hunt the fallen and i am a fan of wheres wally (waldo for the yanks)
SW- who wouldnt want to be half 1/3 human 1/3 dog and 1/3 viking? its the best of everything and they seem to have a laugh (until one of them goes gakking crazy and wants to kill everything)
Salamaders- I am a pyromaniac so why wouldnt i want to set fire to things? preferably a librarian then i could just make fire happen. plus looking for vulkans lost shazz cant be too dull can it?
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
No, that's not my "interpretation", there is nothing suggesting the Emperor protects those who worship him, or if he simply devours them as well like any other warp god. There's "interpretation of fluff" and then there's "making gak up".
It's still a interpretation. Show me where is says that every soul gets torched by daemons when they die.
In The First Heretic as well as in Betrayer. In 40k there is no afterlife but torment and eventual hellish oblivion. That's part of the true grimness of the setting, because there's no real escape from it.
The agents of Chaos often claim that the souls of humans are bound to end up in the warp and suffer eternal torment or some such. They do this to win over the mortals to their team by offering said mortals a “supposed” free pass on a grim end. Demons lie and mislead all the time, so take it all with salt.
Eldar, difficult choice in Craftworlds but I'm gonna go with Iyanden as I see them as the closest thing to "good guys" in a darker universe. As far as occupation I have alot of admiration for Autarchs so I'll go with ith that giving experiences as most warrior paths. As much as I love Biel-Tan I like Iyandens sense of tolerance and their logic in their codex supplement.
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
No, that's not my "interpretation", there is nothing suggesting the Emperor protects those who worship him, or if he simply devours them as well like any other warp god. There's "interpretation of fluff" and then there's "making gak up".
It's still a interpretation. Show me where is says that every soul gets torched by daemons when they die.
In The First Heretic as well as in Betrayer. In 40k there is no afterlife but torment and eventual hellish oblivion. That's part of the true grimness of the setting, because there's no real escape from it.
The agents of Chaos often claim that the souls of humans are bound to end up in the warp and suffer eternal torment or some such. They do this to win over the mortals to their team by offering said mortals a “supposed” free pass on a grim end. Demons lie and mislead all the time, so take it all with salt.
Daemons. Lie when you would trust them and tell the truth when you won't.
To all you demon lord wanna be's the OP did ask for standard races, and not a choice of rank.
With that premise I would say Tau or Dark Elder.
Tau: optimistic little guys with the possibility of one day getting into a fundamental aka crisis suit. not to mention i may or may not be mine controlled so dont have to worry about fear.
Dark Eldar: Why? Sex, drugs, rock'n'roll, and pillaging...which offers the previous 3 items in new and exciting ways!
Counting obscure races however.... C'Tan because they are bad ass.
I think being an Ork would be the happiest existence, assuming I have to be a basic grunt of whatever species/race I choose. I mean, they just have fun.
But if I could choose my position, then it'd be a whole new story. Inquisition all the way - but only if I'm in charge - I don't fancy being a penitent engine or arco-flagellant...
Thats easy. I'd be a human
More specifically....and Rogue Trader.
Obscene wealth?
Freedom to do as I please, go where I please, when I please?
Residual ties to the imperium to get what I want.
Get to act like a privateer/pirate
Live for hundreds of years if you do it right.
Easy, Dark eldar. You get a good life for a couple of millenia. Oh and there's the small thing of getting a lucky break some day and becoming an archon who will always be resurrected.
Ork
Because i would die happy if it involved driving 100+ mph on a make shift looted bike with big shooty guns strapped to it, hell i would even consider swinging a rusty pipe around to play golf with some loyalist heads
Human. If I can choose the who, what and where, then it'd be my Slaaneshi Apostate from the FFG Black Crusade RPG - a warlord with a million soldiers & space vessels to carry them but lacking any fixed agenda, who strives solely for their own personal perfection and to be surrounded by the finest material examples of perfection whilst enjoying all the fun that being a hermaphrodite can bring!* Huzzah!
People say Slaanesh like it's gonna be an eternity of sex drugs and rock n roll. I doubt those people have experienced large amounts of any of these. An eternity listening to Airbourne would drive me flying rodent gak insane.
Still probably the best choice in-universe now that I'm trying to think of an alternative.
A Tau Ethereal...you get comfy robes..a long life..clean elegant living conditions, and a host of minions that think your every word is wise, cool, and to be heeded.
I don't even need or want a combat oriented posting..would be happy to manage a small colony or outpost...or a food and beverage corporate.
If it has to be as the most basic unit of the faction, Eldar. You get to live an incredibly long life, and as long as you're not combat oriented and your craftworld isn't attacked, you should be ok.
If it can be as something better (HQ choice so to speak), definitely Necron Lord/Overlord.
Sabreguy wrote: In our current storyline what race would you be and why?
Caucasian. No particular reason, it is just I am Caucasian now and I do not see any reason to change. That, and almost every artwork depicts only Caucasian humans, so I guess I will have an easier time fitting in.
Or maybe you meant faction, or species, or anything else than race ? I do not get why we still talk about races in fantasy and syfy when it has obviously nothing to do with race…
Jimsolo wrote: In 40k there is no afterlife but torment and eventual hellish oblivion.
I am pretty sure the Ecclesiarchy teach that at the very least the greatest heroes get to join the right side of the Emperor or something.
I will check for it later.
I want to be the Big Giant Head .... or what you call the Emperor of Mankind. Good side is I get people waiting on my needs hand and foot, people killing themselves just to stay in my good graces, or killing others to stay in my good graces. I am a Psyker stronger than any other human and can kill with a thought.
Bad side ... I am on a crap life support system because I was an IDIOT and thought my "SON" would not betray me. Yeah, sure my life support system is blinged out but really it is only one step better than a porcelain throne.
MarsNZ wrote: People say Slaanesh like it's gonna be an eternity of sex drugs and rock n roll. I doubt those people have experienced large amounts of any of these. An eternity listening to Airbourne would drive me flying rodent gak insane.
Still probably the best choice in-universe now that I'm trying to think of an alternative.
TBH slaanesh is probably the easiest one for most people to get into, nurgle too pus-y for me, khorne too scary for me, tzeentch too schemey for me
Although I think sex drugs and rock n roll are just the entry requirements, it probably gets more depraved from there
OIIIIIIO wrote: I want to be the Big Giant Head .... or what you call the Emperor of Mankind. Good side is I get people waiting on my needs hand and foot, people killing themselves just to stay in my good graces, or killing others to stay in my good graces. I am a Psyker stronger than any other human and can kill with a thought.
Bad side ... I am on a crap life support system because I was an IDIOT and thought my "SON" would not betray me. Yeah, sure my life support system is blinged out but really it is only one step better than a porcelain throne.
You know the Emperor has been in constant almost unbearable agony for the last 10,000 years right? And on top of that, he has to remain in focus while harnessing his psychic powers for daily chores to keep the Imperium running, one small flaw can lead to millions of deaths or worse.
No, Daemon Princes are their own unique organism as being a symbiotic collective of a Daemon and a mortal soul bound together. I was exploiting a loophole in the OP by Daemon Princes qualifying as their own unique race/species.
Necron Phaeron. Ohhh Yeaaaah. Badass to le max.
I mean 00010011101010100100010000010010000100100001010100000000000001.
Oh wait I can talk now.
All those who oppose me shall kneel or die.
My first thought was Tau since you'd probably have a nice quiet life of obeying the rules and after you die your soul is too faint to attract any attention.
That said, I'm not actually so familiar with the new necron fluff. How much individuality does the basic Necron trooper have left anyway? Because that is a pretty viable option.
What is wrong with you? Let's try to keep this thread civil and humane.
Back on topic, I would say a Space Marine for the simple fact you would live as a bad ass for a short time or a long time. Although I would need to pick my chapter colour to ensure I looked good doing so.
Chaos Marine for me. Get to be a superhuman badass with armour like a tank, but without having to worship a corpse who spends eternity sat on a toilet.
DeadMutagen94 wrote: In whfb the elves can put their souls into certain things to preserve them and protect them from slaneesh it's not the same in 40K?
Sounds like what Lord Voldemort did in Harry Potter, lol
He must have been an Elf, which would explain a few things.
Chaos Space Marine of the Word Bearers. I may be atheist in real life, but those guys have proof of their gods and they have style to go with it. Plus, I don't have to mono-worship one of the Chaos Gods- I get to venerate all 6 of them equally.
dementedwombat wrote: My first thought was Tau since you'd probably have a nice quiet life of obeying the rules and after you die your soul is too faint to attract any attention.
That said, I'm not actually so familiar with the new necron fluff. How much individuality does the basic Necron trooper have left anyway? Because that is a pretty viable option.
Nothing, they're little more than mindless servitors now. And unlike other factions in W40K, it's impossible to rank up.
being immortal or having a seriously long life would probably turn me into a deranged lunatic however if i had a choice I would be a human - but a psyker - and a member of the inquisition, I would probably start as a puritanical executing the radical, then going radical, and then back to puritanical!
An ork. No stress, and the unhappiest moment I. Your life is when you finished a fight and can't immediately see something else worth fighting.
A tau. Working for something worthwhile. Well looked after, little stress and a direction in life.
A human. either a propper rogue trader with a propper mark so I can do what I like when I like how I like, preferably a perpetual to boot, or sticking to the rules, a farmer on an agri world. Safe from most attacks as agriworlds are well defended, but well fed, with a good job. Agriworlds seem the ideal place to live.
Dark Eldar most def, see even the Kabalite Warriors and other grunts get to have a hell of a time filled to the brim with sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll and the ocational genocide.
And if I could choose profession I would definently choose something involving flying really fast things and blowing up tanks before I'm even seen.
Like a Reaver Jetbike!
Of course it would be a horrible life in the universe for the vast majority of people in Warhammer 40k, and if I HAD to live their I'd sadly have to give it up to the Tau Empire, Tau or Human it's the nicest place to live for most people.
However, if I I got to have a little fun... I've had the urge to purge things as of recent, perhaps commit a little Exterminatus, so I'd have to go Human, but only if I could be an Inquisitor
I would want to be an astartes from a dead chapter, who was in the deathwatch until i was assigned to a Rouge trader ship as his watcher.
Free from chapter loyalty, and mostly free of all constraints from the imperium, working under an incredibly rich guy who would always be scared of me finding him heretical and chopping him up would be about as free and fun a life you could have in the 41st.
There's no 'good choice' as the 40k universe is pretty much you're boned no matter what. However, I'm sure the Tau Ethereal have it best so that'd be my call.
"Let me take a moment to tell you about the Greater Good..."
I already view most of my neighbours as "slightly above tree-dwelling arboreal mammals" at the best of times and somewhere below cave-dwelling knuckle draggers - so I'm close enough to that.
Well the obvious answer is a Daemon Prince,preferably Khorne. Immortal and never ending battle sounds entertaining. But if not either a Space Wolf or a Salamander. Because Space Vikings are awesome,and I love fire
Space Wolf, of course.
Because they're the heroes of the 40k, they're badass, they drink and party hard in the Fang, and overall 'cause they're vikings. IN SPACE.
I would be a Tyranid. They are one super-organism and I would therefore be the Hive mind because there are no individuals in the swarm. Also even if I were just a Hormagaunt I can go into the pupa stage and emerge as a more advanced Tyranid. Then repeat until I am the the most highly evolved bio-construct in the hive, the Queen. Then it's time to lay eggs.
Assuming I could choose my station in life, I'd want to be a Rogue Trader.
Failing that, perhaps a Mechanicus Adept of some sort, or a Xenos Inquisitor.
If my social position was a crapshoot, probably an Ork. Out of all the races of 40k, they seem the most likely to get a happy ending.
Sure, Daemon Prince-hood sounds nice, but it's almost a guaranteed certainty that you won't make it. You'll get back stabbed by some other power-hungry bastard, or the capricious god or gods you serve decide to drop you like a hot potato for the hell of it, or you get killed by an alien or a servant of the Emperor, or you can't quite handle all the Chaos Gifts and you degenerate into a Chaos Spawn...
And even if you do manage to achieve Daemonhood, then what? You're still bound in eternal service to cruel, uncaring gods, you're still trapped in endless war against other servants of cruel, uncaring gods, and was it ever stated that once they gave you Daemonhood, the Gods couldn't undo it? And they've been known to sacrifice Greater Daemons in the past, what's stopping them from using you the same way?
An elegant progression from birth to afterlife filled with the experiences and emotions of a thousand lifetimes and playing a minor but important role in the Grand Play and staving off the end of my native race.
If I became a harlequin or an exarch or was born to an exodite world, I would be happy too.
Outside of perhaps some minor xenos, the Eldar have the best living conditions by far, are extremely egalitarian, can still have sex, aren't unpleasant to look at, and Craftworlds tend to be rather safe places to live, with direct assaults on them being rare.
The living conditions on Chaos worlds suck absolute balls and all the chaos space marines have an insane love of self harm or pain, Ork society is all the violence and slapstick of Football Hooligan and Howling Barbarian lifestyles with none of the companionship, most Tyranids and Necrons can't even think (and again, none of the simple enjoyments of the flesh or companionship), Imperial society is rife with colossal social injustice, and the Tau are strike me as perhaps a bit too austere.
As for the Dark Eldar, I'd rather not live in a society where the concept of love is alien and murder, betrayal, rape, and torture are the basis of society. I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of Commorragh's population has faced sexual assault at some point in their life.
MSRC27 wrote: Chaos Cultist because why the hell not
Enjoy being the whipping boy of literally everyone else above you on the chain of command.
Chaos Space marines seem to be universally extremely abusive of their cultist cannon fodder as a whole, freely maiming, raping, torturing, killing, or sacrificing them whenever they feel bored or need to take out their frustrations.
From what we've read, mortal commanders are no better and are every bit as mean spirited and abusive towards their lackeys.
megabambam wrote: Dark Eldar most def, see even the Kabalite Warriors and other grunts get to have a hell of a time filled to the brim with sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll and the ocational genocide.
And if I could choose profession I would definently choose something involving flying really fast things and blowing up tanks before I'm even seen.
Like a Reaver Jetbike!
Still a human but having the advantage of being able to use Tau tech.
You can't do whatever you want though, you have to do what they say and live where they want you to, and if any of that leaves you feeling dissatisfied that's too fething bad, ambition is a sin before the Greater Good, now be a good little monkey-man and get back in line for your daily allotment of bread, see how nice we are by letting you go back to your original position in the line instead of sending you to the back?
Still a human but having the advantage of being able to use Tau tech.
You can't do whatever you want though, you have to do what they say and live where they want you to, and if any of that leaves you feeling dissatisfied that's too fething bad, ambition is a sin before the Greater Good, now be a good little monkey-man and get back in line for your daily allotment of bread, see how nice we are by letting you go back to your original position in the line instead of sending you to the back?
Also, we accepted that the universe was not, in fact, a logical and reasonable place a very long time ago, enabling us to function much more successfully then you. Enjoy trying to establish diplomatic relations with that Bloodthirster over there.
Also also, we're not a bunch of weaboos that bleed easy.
Still a human but having the advantage of being able to use Tau tech.
You can't do whatever you want though, you have to do what they say and live where they want you to, and if any of that leaves you feeling dissatisfied that's too fething bad, ambition is a sin before the Greater Good, now be a good little monkey-man and get back in line for your daily allotment of bread, see how nice we are by letting you go back to your original position in the line instead of sending you to the back?
As opposed to to dying in an Industrial accident gang war or being killed as a heretic ?
The best you can hope for in the imperium as a normal human is working 18 hours shifts in some factory living in a hive with a population of billions and probably dying from toxic pollution if your lucky.
You are relativelly free to do as you want under tau rule provided you adhere to the Tenets of the greater good.
No widespread toxic polution no living in an overcrowded hive actually having access to advanced technology living in an advancing society not a stagnating one.
I am stuck between two worlds here.....
I would pick Eldar and be a warlock (get access to so much knowledge and ever lasting life essentially)
Or I would pick Tau and be a Stealth Suit Shas'la.....I like their society (although the Ethereals might be up to some funny buisness) and how you rise to ranks and eventually get to commander with the possibility of retiring on one of the worlds if you are a renowned warrior.
^ I wish everyone knew this. Then the truth about all Tau would be revealed: they are all weaklings... XD
The Dark Eldar embrace everything that is known in this galaxy. No restrictions, well, except for being psychic. But that only gets restricted by force within the webways and in commoragh... the open galaxy is fresh meat.
She Who Thirsts may be attracted to you, and since you have no soulstone, you are basically on your own when it comes to psychic shielding and manipulation of psychic force for your advantage. But you can please her - just revel in more and more of your personal, tyrannical regime of reality - keep the show going, appease the thirst, aaaaannd it's all good, sex drugs rock and roll, order may vary.
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. Orks LOVE war. Life is a nonstop party!!!
Orks are actually more immortal than an Eldar or Dark Eldar. They don't die of old age, they just get bigger and bigger until someone kills em. Eldar are a humorless, dying race, and DE have to live in constant fear of being backstabbed. Da Orks always know where dey stand wit each udder. If ya have a problem, a good scrap'll fix it.
Humies are puny, live nasty, short lives, and 99.9999999999999999% spend their whole lives being told what to do.
Tau have somewhat nicer standards of living, but otherwise are just like humies, with even shorter lives.
Bugs aren't smart enough to enjoy anything, or even think about anything really.
To become a Daemon Prince, you have to start out as a human and gain a crap ton of favor from a fickle god of evil. Good luck. Also, Daemon Princes aren't untouchable. There are all kinds of fun ways that a Daemon Prince's own patron god or a rival god can keep a DP trapped in eternal torment if he ever runs afoul of them.
Do yeah. I'd be an Ork, and start working my way up ta be tha biggest baddest Ork in tha galaxy. If I die on tha way, well I'm gonna have fun doin' it and cause as big a mess as possible!
I could've gone with Necron, but the line troopers have very little individuality and the Lord is just so... cliche.
DeadMutagen94 wrote: In whfb the elves can put their souls into certain things to preserve them and protect them from slaneesh it's not the same in 40K?
anyway I would probably be an Imperial guardsmen.Vostroyan probably...
Eldar have soulstones which capture and preserve the soul at the moment of death and then are recovered and poured into the Craftworld's infinity circuit which is kind of like Elysium. A happy but blurry purgatory where you wait for the end times with all your friends and relatives. If the soulstone is completely destroyed (really hard because it's the solidified tear of the God Isha) they endure the same torments as any truly dead Dark Eldar (see below). They can also assist those in real space from the Infinity Circuit by joining their soul with a Ghost warrior (wealth construct) and animating them to fight in battle, while becoming vulnerable again in the form of a soulstone or assist in the running of the Craftworld's everyday and defensive/offensive computing capabilities. Almost like the Imperiums servitors but much less grim dark as these souls help of their own free will and can relax and let another soul in the circuit take over it's job. Also there is some connection between the Infinity circuit and powering the Craftworld and the Circuit can be destroyed, effectively killing the Craftworld and sacrificing all who do not escape through the Webway to another Craftworld, to Slaanesh.
Exodite or Maiden World Eldar unite with the world spirit which is a mixture of a hive mind style collective consciousness and the purgatory between reincarnations. Exodites are not reincarnated that we know of but they do somehow contribute to the strength and life of the World Spirit and the planet they reside on. The world singer speaks to the spirit, keeps it calm and balanced and unites souls with it when they pass. To separate the two will enrage the spirit and risk utter destruction of the kidnappers/murderers and the entire world itself.
The Dark Eldar have nothing. They sustain themselves on the tortured souls of others for as long as they can, transferring their soul to cloned bodies and drinking in the rape and pillage of Commoragh's many "arenas" but when they experience their True Death, it's a horrifying thing for them and everyone around them as their soul is dragged, screaming, into the warp to be rend and torn and flayed for all eternity (or an eternity in the warp) and then devoured like a tasty snack by She Who Thirsts and even then, their pain does not end. They don't go to Oblivion. They go somewhere else, worse. This is all just to add to the Grimdarkness of the setting and the utter doom of the Eldar race
Jimsolo wrote: That's fine, you can believe whatever you want about the fluff. I for one believe several things which the fluff NEVER directly supports at all. (Angron was the smartest of the Primarchs, the Emperor was actually a vat-grown psychic puppet and Malcador the Sigilite was the REAL Emperor, and a few others.)....
Ha! Love the Emperor-Malcador idea. Though my vision of them was more like snarky bickering brothers, with Empy the charismatic public face of the operation, perpetually privately horrified at what people are making of him, and Malcador as the cynical, sinister brains of the operation.
E: Wait, these people are saying I'm tens of thousands of years old? And that I was created by the collective suicide of all the planet's shamans? What.
M: Oh, Your Highness, whining isn't very Imperial of you. And deep down, don't you really love it when they grovel?
E: Malky, if you ever call me "Highness" again, I will smack you.
M: As you command, Your Highness.
E: Dammit, Malky!
M: Waiting for that smack, bro.
E: Dammit.
M: Wimp.
Oh, and as to the OP, yeah, I guess Eldar. No matter what rank you're born into, you have a decent chance at a decent life. And I'm probably capable of being obsessive and narrow-minded enough to follow an Eldar Path for a few millennia.
Orks are attractive, since as people say they're probably the happiest race, but I just don't want to spend my existence being a gigantic green dick.
The number of people who are totally fine with living in a culture that idolizes rape, torture, murder, betrayal, and doesn't even have a proper concept of love or friendship is disturbing. Just putting that out there.
Kain wrote: The number of people who are totally fine with living in a culture that idolizes rape, torture, murder, betrayal, and doesn't even have a proper concept of love or friendship is disturbing. Just putting that out there.
Oh good, I thought I was the only one to notice that.
Slaaneshi Daemon Prince. Slaanesh isn't all about the raping, I'd basically have a fiefdom in the Warp where i could create art from mortals. And daemonettes who displeased me. You're all about sensation? Try being gold-plated and worked into an immortality-bestowing sculpture for a couple of millennia. That should teach them not to fail me.
As long as I get a real weapon in battle- a whip is fine off the battlefield, but as a real weapon? Not for me.
Kain wrote: The number of people who are totally fine with living in a culture that idolizes rape, torture, murder, betrayal, and doesn't even have a proper concept of love or friendship is disturbing. Just putting that out there.
LOL. It aint too different from our own planet's culture, especially behind the scenes.
If theres Chaos, well you might as well embrace it! Learn aallllllllllllll about it, yeeeeeeeeeeah!
Kain wrote: The number of people who are totally fine with living in a culture that idolizes rape, torture, murder, betrayal, and doesn't even have a proper concept of love or friendship is disturbing. Just putting that out there.
Oh good, I thought I was the only one to notice that.
Some people may mock the idea of "social justice" but I don't think they've ever lived in a society that by definition; has none. About the only improvement in Dark Eldar society is total equality of the sexes and not caring about your sexuality.
Everything else all adds up to make for something pretty much in the top ten "worst societies in major works of fiction" ever.
Kain wrote: The number of people who are totally fine with living in a culture that idolizes rape, torture, murder, betrayal, and doesn't even have a proper concept of love or friendship is disturbing. Just putting that out there.
LOL. It aint too different from our own planet's culture, especially behind the scenes.
If theres Chaos, well you might as well embrace it! Learn aallllllllllllll about it, yeeeeeeeeeeah!
Minus the astronomical rape, murder, assault, and general abuse rates. Minus them being a society that doesn't even have a word for love because the idea of an altruistic relationship is just that alien to them. Minus a physical need to inflict horrendous suffering or pleasure on others to survive. Minus every single Dark Eldar being a sociopath with no sense of empathy. Minus the fact that the Dark Eldar are all but incapable of kindness. Minus everything that makes Commorragh awful.
Orks or Tyranids!
As everyone said, orcs are happy. Wear a blue suit and red shoes, then you're golden. =D
Tyranids, either you're an animal, so very simple life, or you have a little bit of individuality and you're a part of the Great Hive Mind. So basically immortal and never alone. Hell, you probably have friends inside of you ( your ammos!)
Kain wrote: The number of people who are totally fine with living in a culture that idolizes rape, torture, murder, betrayal, and doesn't even have a proper concept of love or friendship is disturbing. Just putting that out there.
LOL. It aint too different from our own planet's culture, especially behind the scenes.
If theres Chaos, well you might as well embrace it! Learn aallllllllllllll about it, yeeeeeeeeeeah!
Minus the astronomical rape, murder, assault, and general abuse rates. Minus them being a society that doesn't even have a word for love because the idea of an altruistic relationship is just that alien to them. Minus a physical need to inflict horrendous suffering or pleasure on others to survive. Minus every single Dark Eldar being a sociopath with no sense of empathy. Minus the fact that the Dark Eldar are all but incapable of kindness. Minus everything that makes Commorragh awful.
I.. I feel ashamed now. LoL its true! I take this world for granted.
Still, if WH40 k were a virtual simulator... I'd take DE for all that mad speed!.
In one of the Salamander books the top Wych in the employ of an Archon is killed, and he spends the rest of the series confused and upset about how much he misses her. Not only does he find the company of other Wyches unsatisfying now, he allies with a Chaos Space Marine warband for no other reason then that they hated the Salamanders too. In fact, her death affected him so much that he wasn't able to see his baby brother's latest attempt on his life coming, and so was killed for realsies before he could take his revenge.
Honestly I would choose a Khorne demon prince just because blood for the blood god skulls for the skull throne. And because I would be able to warp jump.
Lord-Captain Cepinari wrote: In one of the Salamander books the top Wych in the employ of an Archon is killed, and he spends the rest of the series confused and upset about how much he misses her. Not only does he find the company of other Wyches unsatisfying now, he allies with a Chaos Space Marine warband for no other reason then that they hated the Salamanders too. In fact, her death affected him so much that he wasn't able to see his baby brother's latest attempt on his life coming, and so was killed for realsies before he could take his revenge.
There's also a short story in Xenology where another Archon ends up falling in love with a lovely but hard to impress young dark eldar called Mistress Baeda, but because Dark Eldar culture is so twisted he doesn't even know what he's feeling until the spouse of a guardsman his soldiers killed hears of his motivations end immediately goes from fearing him to pitying him. He explains the closest term they have to love and that just makes her laugh even harder. For a moment, all the arrogance of the Dark Eldar is gone, and he's baffled when she asks him to reunite her with her husband because her love for him was such that life wasn't worth living anymore without him; and this just confuses the hell out of the Archon.
The Archon tries countless ways to impress her; he raids entire planets for her, offers her the finest food and drink, goes to the Haemonculus to make himself look as young and handsome as possible, but she keeps on blowing him off even as he runs his kabal into the ground to win her heart, with all his actions being supported by his only daughter (who is also his right hand woman) who he trusts and relies on. Finally; he tries to steal a crystal that's the centerpiece of a Necron Lord's throne room in a heavily defended tomb world. He gets the Krystal, but his Kabal is gutted and his daughter was killed.
Then all the pain of a father who just lost their child hits him and he completely breaks down, and only then does Baeda accept him, because the pain of a broken heart is something rare and delicious.
Some people say the real love story was him realizing how much he cared for his daughter when the Necrons took her away from him. Now he knows the same pain that woman did.
It's one of the most feels intensive stories in 40k.
If you want drugs, rape, murder, freedom, pirating and looting - you can live in Somali. That's the exact state of life in that wonderful country. Are you really in for it or just don't know what all this things exactly are?
As for me, i'd like to be an ork commando. Being a sneeky Bear Grills that LOVES hiking in the wild and comes back to the big fun brawl of the main settlement when starts missing it!
Orks are the race that's really free from fear, hatred and arrogance. They're actually the most just society! Noone will ever attempt to fool you or stab you in the back! Noone will ever try to lie to you! If they think they're right and you're wrong - they tell it in your face and if you think differently - you're free to prove it in a fair fight!
It's great when your favorite hobby - the thing you adore - is what you do for your living. Well the orkses are a race that 100% consists of such persons. They all do what they love to do.
Eihnlazer wrote: I would want to be an astartes from a dead chapter, who was in the deathwatch until i was assigned to a Rouge trader ship as his watcher.
Free from chapter loyalty, and mostly free of all constraints from the imperium, working under an incredibly rich guy who would always be scared of me finding him heretical and chopping him up would be about as free and fun a life you could have in the 41st.
Ah, yes, the famous make-up smugglers of Alpha Centauri!
I would either be a Dark Angel Space marine so I can kick some Chaos hide while looking quite grim/dashing in my polished dark green armour wielding a massive electrical sword. Fun.
Or a catachan guardsman. Some may say 'Why, you would be torn to pieces' or something of the like but my reasonings simple:
As a guardsman of the Imperium I would battle it out using a machete and lasrifle, but then again if you think about it most guardmen don't see proper battle in their life; they usually deal with pesky garrisoning worlds and minor conflicts including small bands of orks, renegades or cultists. Not many in their lifetime see the monstrosities of the 40k universe. Being Catachan would be an upside though because they were bred and raised in war, and if I could choose my commander it would be Straken because he takes care of his men and would be able to handle myself in war. Also the Guardsmen after a while if your forces are too depleted will let you go from the Guardsmen ranks and let you live out the rest of your days on a planet or ship somewhere in space.
Daemons probably don't care- the lower ranked ones don't seem to have much of a self-preservation instinct.
I wouldn't mind being a Tau. They're essentially Human, but +1. Sure, if I'm apart of the Fire Caste I'll end up dying a horrible death, but if I'm water-caste I'm pretty much good to go.
All the benefits of living in a utilitarian society, none of the self-sacrificial risks.
Eldar are a close second, but the fact that they are all, literally, psychopaths kind of makes that a risky thing.
Lord-Captain Cepinari wrote: In one of the Salamander books the top Wych in the employ of an Archon is killed, and he spends the rest of the series confused and upset about how much he misses her. Not only does he find the company of other Wyches unsatisfying now, he allies with a Chaos Space Marine warband for no other reason then that they hated the Salamanders too. In fact, her death affected him so much that he wasn't able to see his baby brother's latest attempt on his life coming, and so was killed for realsies before he could take his revenge.
There's also a short story in Xenology where another Archon ends up falling in love with a lovely but hard to impress young dark eldar called Mistress Baeda, but because Dark Eldar culture is so twisted he doesn't even know what he's feeling until the spouse of a guardsman his soldiers killed hears of his motivations end immediately goes from fearing him to pitying him. He explains the closest term they have to love and that just makes her laugh even harder. For a moment, all the arrogance of the Dark Eldar is gone, and he's baffled when she asks him to reunite her with her husband because her love for him was such that life wasn't worth living anymore without him; and this just confuses the hell out of the Archon.
The Archon tries countless ways to impress her; he raids entire planets for her, offers her the finest food and drink, goes to the Haemonculus to make himself look as young and handsome as possible, but she keeps on blowing him off even as he runs his kabal into the ground to win her heart, with all his actions being supported by his only daughter (who is also his right hand woman) who he trusts and relies on. Finally; he tries to steal a crystal that's the centerpiece of a Necron Lord's throne room in a heavily defended tomb world. He gets the Krystal, but his Kabal is gutted and his daughter was killed.
Then all the pain of a father who just lost their child hits him and he completely breaks down, and only then does Baeda accept him, because the pain of a broken heart is something rare and delicious.
Some people say the real love story was him realizing how much he cared for his daughter when the Necrons took her away from him. Now he knows the same pain that woman did.
It's one of the most feels intensive stories in 40k.
I think the Moral of that story, is don't **** with the Necrons.
That's pretty much the only way to be immortal, and thus avoid all that happy horsecrap. Sure, I have to feed on the misery of people around me, but that's okay. I'll take that as an alternative to having my psyche ripped to shreds by demons after I die.
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