I have a feeling the rams won't get anything significant in a trade up scenario. But I could be wrong. I have a feeling we won't see any moves till 5-10.
I wish there was any chance whatsoever of the patriots getting Khalil Mack. He's my favorite defender in the draft. Where the patriots are picking I'm hoping for one of Ryan shazier, Demarcus Lawrence, Deone Bucannon, or stephen Tuitt.
I will probably watch the top ten then go to bed. 5am comes super early especially when the patriots aren't picking till 11:30ish.
Personally I would prefer to see the Bears take Ha-Ha Dix over Calvin Pryor but if the Rams nab him at #13 Pryor's the next best thing, not particularly high on any of the top DT prospects this year, but Emery knows what he's doing when drafting so there's always hope
Thing is the Rams either way are laughing their way to the bank after Dan Snyder beat himself up and gave them his lunch money
Another thing I've heard is the possibility of the Bears trading back with San Fran for potentially an additional 3rd
Personally I think Manziel has too high of a bust factor as does Clowney, the QB steals this year will be in my opinion Aaron Murray (Georgia) and AJ McCarron (Alabama), it'll be intersting to see see where Tajh Boyd (Clemson), Logan Thomas (VT) will go and if Devin Gardner (Michgan) will be drafted as a QB or another skill position.
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cincydooley wrote: There's a lot of buzz that Detroit is going to try and move up to take Watkins. That would be nuts.
I got to see Mack play twice in person. The dude is a monster.
Detroit really need secondary help, Watkins would be good but their D really needs fixed up
Not a fan of Aaron Donald? Dude seems like a beast...
@cincy I'm kind of jealous about seeing Mack. I'd love to have gotten to see him in college because I feel like he's gonna be something really special. Same feeling I had about Mo Wilkerson and JJ Watt.
I like McCarron, he could probably do REALLY well with an organization like the cardinals who have some real nice pieces in place. I don't know a ton about Murray though.
And with McCarron going to the cardinals we'd have the hilarity of having to deal with the Darnell Dockett controversy.
Chancetragedy wrote:Not a fan of Aaron Donald? Dude seems like a beast...
He's a bit undersized for a DT and although quite athletic isn't a great force against the run (Which Chicago really needs from the 3 tech they draft)
It also irritated me to see Bucky Brooks in a mock draft have him go to Chicago as he fits "Their tampa-2 defence"
Y'Know the defence they haven't used for the past two seasons......
whembly wrote:
cincydooley wrote: There's a lot of buzz that Detroit is going to try and move up to take Watkins. That would be nuts.
I got to see Mack play twice in person. The dude is a monster.
Egad!!!!!!!! Can you imagine trying to defend both Calvin Johnson AND Watkins????
Detroit would have to give up what Washington did to get RG3.
Oh... I agree Mack > Clowny.
Clowney seems like he has the better pure athletic ability but he really either shows up or doesn't, and he runs his mouth far too much for me, ie He's already trash talking Andrew Luck Mack on the other hand seems a lot more professional in his work ethic and not too far behind athletically and just a great hard-working player
Manziel is also like Clowney: good athleticism but far too rough mechanically. He also really benefited from having Mike Evans for him to just put the ball upto get
And you wouldn't have to defend both Watkins and Johnson, you just wait till Stafford side arms it to the nearest LB
ironicsilence wrote: I just hope that texans dont draft clowny or johnny football
There's many in the industry that believes if the Texans can't trade down, they'll pick Mack over Clowny.
And THAT makes the Rams second pick that much more valuable.
id be fine with mack, would much rather have him over clowney. Not sure its possible but I wouldnt mind seeing the texans trade down to number 6 and still get mack, but I cant imagine mack making it past the raiders, but that means the texans have to draft a QB in round 2 and I'd guess McCarron to be the guy left. In a perfect world we grab mack in the first round and Teddy Bridgewater turns into this years hot QB that doesnt go in round 1 and is around for the texans 2nd pick
Jonny football absolutely does not have a better arm Han Russell Wilson.
Less than 5 hours to go. Per an Adam Shefter tweet, the texans will no longer be trying to or trading the 1st overall pick. Looks like they will probably be taking Mack or clowney. Either way I feel bad for the QB's in the AFC south ;p
Chancetragedy wrote: Jonny football absolutely does not have a better arm Han Russell Wilson.
Less than 5 hours to go. Per an Adam Shefter tweet, the texans will no longer be trying to or trading the 1st overall pick. Looks like they will probably be taking Mack or clowney. Either way I feel bad for the QB's in the AFC south ;p
id still much rather take Mack, I think the clown has a higher up side, but I'd rather not risk a number one over all pick / 1st pick money on a guy who has effort problems. I'm sure playing a long side JJ would teach him what it means to go 100% for 4 quarters but I'm still not interested in the risk
I'm also looking at the texans to move there 2nd round pick up into the mid - late first round to draft bridgewater. A Bridgewater + Mack first round would be hugely exciting for this Texans fan
Less than 5 hours to go. Per an Adam Shefter tweet, the texans will no longer be trying to or trading the 1st overall pick. Looks like they will probably be taking Mack or clowney. Either way I feel bad for the QB's in the AFC south ;p
kronk wrote: Johnny Football is a "Dead Hooker found in Hotel Room" news story waiting to happen.
wut?
You don't think he'll be successful in the same mold as Seattle's QB Russel? He's got a better arm/accuracy than Russel.
Ability at college doesn't always translate across. Wilson was also a really humble guy with non of the off field issues
Manziel also had a wide receiver who was 6'5'' and in college DBs aren't as tight on their coverage especially when you're playing against colleges such as UTEP, Southern Methodist and Sam Houston State. When A&M lost to Auburn Evans had 11 of 28 of Manziels completions and over half the yardage (287 out of 454) and all 4 Passing TDs
A comparison through out the season had when:
Manziel was targeting Evan. 79.6% completions, 19.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Manziel & all other receivers 71.4% completions, 7.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Source Quite simply he relies too much on one receiver which he won't get away with at the next level
He'll also either have to spend the next 3 months bulking up or learning not to run around as much because some lineman or linebacker will just destroy him, and RG3 proved you don't even need to get hit to get taken out a game
Chancetragedy wrote: Jonny football absolutely does not have a better arm Han Russell Wilson.
Less than 5 hours to go. Per an Adam Shefter tweet, the texans will no longer be trying to or trading the 1st overall pick. Looks like they will probably be taking Mack or clowney. Either way I feel bad for the QB's in the AFC south ;p
id still much rather take Mack, I think the clown has a higher up side, but I'd rather not risk a number one over all pick / 1st pick money on a guy who has effort problems. I'm sure playing a long side JJ would teach him what it means to go 100% for 4 quarters but I'm still not interested in the risk
I'm also looking at the texans to move there 2nd round pick up into the mid - late first round to draft bridgewater. A Bridgewater + Mack first round would be hugely exciting for this Texans fan
I see Bridgewater going to Cleveland @ 26th, unless Houston wants to trade back into the first
I think Johnny football has the arm for the NFL game, I just question his ability to read and adapt to NFL defense. He seems to play his best football in a spurrier "fun n gun" style offense and I question how well that will translate in the NFL. I think there are a lot of teams that have the players to make that style work, I dont however think any of the teams in the top 5-10 picks have it, so I think Johnny is going to struggle. Basically its not so much that I doubt his ability but I doubt his ability to make it work with the players hes going to be surrounded with
bridgewater to the browns at 26 is interesting, most of the mocks I've seen today have the browns taking Johnny at 4
Automatically Appended Next Post: just read a story from glazer saying the browns have no interest in Johnny at number 4
Less than 5 hours to go. Per an Adam Shefter tweet, the texans will no longer be trying to or trading the 1st overall pick. Looks like they will probably be taking Mack or clowney. Either way I feel bad for the QB's in the AFC south ;p
Take da MACK please... kkthxbye!
Hmm I know I'm arguing semantics here but mayock says better thrower which IMO is a bit different. Wilson is a guy who was also drafted by the Texas rangers. It's pretty clear his arm is live. But touché in general.
kronk wrote: Johnny Football is a "Dead Hooker found in Hotel Room" news story waiting to happen.
wut?
You don't think he'll be successful in the same mold as Seattle's QB Russel? He's got a better arm/accuracy than Russel.
Ability at college doesn't always translate across. Wilson was also a really humble guy with non of the off field issues
Manziel also had a wide receiver who was 6'5'' and in college DBs aren't as tight on their coverage especially when you're playing against colleges such as UTEP, Southern Methodist and Sam Houston State. When A&M lost to Auburn Evans had 11 of 28 of Manziels completions and over half the yardage (287 out of 454) and all 4 Passing TDs
A comparison through out the season had when:
Manziel was targeting Evan. 79.6% completions, 19.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Manziel & all other receivers 71.4% completions, 7.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Source Quite simply he relies too much on one receiver which he won't get away with at the next level
He'll also either have to spend the next 3 months bulking up or learning not to run around as much because some lineman or linebacker will just destroy him, and RG3 proved you don't even need to get hit to get taken out a game
You know that 7.8 YPA is a very solid number though, right? That would have been 8th in the NFL last season. Which is not to say that it translates to the NFL -- I'm just pointing out that number is very solid overall for a QB. And it's not unusual for your deep-threat WR to have a much larger YPC or YPA when targeted. I don't think those numbers make a case against Manziel at all. There may be other issues, but 71% completions and 7.8 YPA ain't among them.
Personally, I'm not sure about Mike Evans at the next level. I'm still not convinced he runs well enough. He reminds me of Mike Williams when he came out of USC.
kronk wrote: Johnny Football is a "Dead Hooker found in Hotel Room" news story waiting to happen.
wut?
You don't think he'll be successful in the same mold as Seattle's QB Russel? He's got a better arm/accuracy than Russel.
Ability at college doesn't always translate across. Wilson was also a really humble guy with non of the off field issues
Manziel also had a wide receiver who was 6'5'' and in college DBs aren't as tight on their coverage especially when you're playing against colleges such as UTEP, Southern Methodist and Sam Houston State. When A&M lost to Auburn Evans had 11 of 28 of Manziels completions and over half the yardage (287 out of 454) and all 4 Passing TDs
A comparison through out the season had when:
Manziel was targeting Evan. 79.6% completions, 19.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Manziel & all other receivers 71.4% completions, 7.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Source Quite simply he relies too much on one receiver which he won't get away with at the next level
He'll also either have to spend the next 3 months bulking up or learning not to run around as much because some lineman or linebacker will just destroy him, and RG3 proved you don't even need to get hit to get taken out a game
You know that 7.8 YPA is a very solid number though, right? That would have been 8th in the NFL last season. Which is not to say that it translates to the NFL -- I'm just pointing out that number is very solid overall for a QB. And it's not unusual for your deep-threat WR to have a much larger YPC or YPA when targeted. I don't think those numbers make a case against Manziel at all. There may be other issues, but 71% completions and 7.8 YPA ain't among them.
Agreed... in the SEC division no less.
Personally, I'm not sure about Mike Evans at the next level. I'm still not convinced he runs well enough. He reminds me of Mike Williams when he came out of USC.
Actually, I think he'd be your perfect "redzone receiver". The dude got great hands... when you're 20 yrds away from the EndZone, just lob it up... Evans will get it.
kronk wrote: Johnny Football is a "Dead Hooker found in Hotel Room" news story waiting to happen.
wut?
You don't think he'll be successful in the same mold as Seattle's QB Russel? He's got a better arm/accuracy than Russel.
Ability at college doesn't always translate across. Wilson was also a really humble guy with non of the off field issues
Manziel also had a wide receiver who was 6'5'' and in college DBs aren't as tight on their coverage especially when you're playing against colleges such as UTEP, Southern Methodist and Sam Houston State. When A&M lost to Auburn Evans had 11 of 28 of Manziels completions and over half the yardage (287 out of 454) and all 4 Passing TDs
A comparison through out the season had when:
Manziel was targeting Evan. 79.6% completions, 19.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Manziel & all other receivers 71.4% completions, 7.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Source Quite simply he relies too much on one receiver which he won't get away with at the next level
He'll also either have to spend the next 3 months bulking up or learning not to run around as much because some lineman or linebacker will just destroy him, and RG3 proved you don't even need to get hit to get taken out a game
You know that 7.8 YPA is a very solid number though, right? That would have been 8th in the NFL last season. Which is not to say that it translates to the NFL -- I'm just pointing out that number is very solid overall for a QB. And it's not unusual for your deep-threat WR to have a much larger YPC or YPA when targeted. I don't think those numbers make a case against Manziel at all. There may be other issues, but 71% completions and 7.8 YPA ain't among them.
Personally, I'm not sure about Mike Evans at the next level. I'm still not convinced he runs well enough. He reminds me of Mike Williams when he came out of USC.
The point of the numbers is to highlight the differences between him targeting Evans and anyone else
College numbers are more often inflated over what NFL counterparts have because they're facing Collegiate level defences which are nowhere near as good as NFL ones, even some of the better NCAA ones like Alabama.
Another point the only QB since Vinny Testaverde to have won a playoff game who was also the Heisman trophy winner is Tim Tebow
kronk wrote: Johnny Football is a "Dead Hooker found in Hotel Room" news story waiting to happen.
wut?
You don't think he'll be successful in the same mold as Seattle's QB Russel? He's got a better arm/accuracy than Russel.
Ability at college doesn't always translate across. Wilson was also a really humble guy with non of the off field issues
Manziel also had a wide receiver who was 6'5'' and in college DBs aren't as tight on their coverage especially when you're playing against colleges such as UTEP, Southern Methodist and Sam Houston State. When A&M lost to Auburn Evans had 11 of 28 of Manziels completions and over half the yardage (287 out of 454) and all 4 Passing TDs
A comparison through out the season had when:
Manziel was targeting Evan. 79.6% completions, 19.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Manziel & all other receivers 71.4% completions, 7.8 Yards/attempt, 9 TDs
Source Quite simply he relies too much on one receiver which he won't get away with at the next level
He'll also either have to spend the next 3 months bulking up or learning not to run around as much because some lineman or linebacker will just destroy him, and RG3 proved you don't even need to get hit to get taken out a game
You know that 7.8 YPA is a very solid number though, right? That would have been 8th in the NFL last season. Which is not to say that it translates to the NFL -- I'm just pointing out that number is very solid overall for a QB. And it's not unusual for your deep-threat WR to have a much larger YPC or YPA when targeted. I don't think those numbers make a case against Manziel at all. There may be other issues, but 71% completions and 7.8 YPA ain't among them.
Personally, I'm not sure about Mike Evans at the next level. I'm still not convinced he runs well enough. He reminds me of Mike Williams when he came out of USC.
The point of the numbers is to highlight the differences between him targeting Evans and anyone else
College numbers are more often inflated over what NFL counterparts have because they're facing Collegiate level defences which are nowhere near as good as NFL ones, even some of the better NCAA ones like Alabama.
Another point the only QB since Vinny Testaverde to have won a playoff game who was also the Heisman trophy winner is Tim Tebow
Stay on point. It looks like 7.8 still would rank in the top 25%-ish in the NCAA last year...in other words, similar to 8th in the NFL (32 teams). Note that would be Manziel WITHOUT his best deep threat vs. everyone else WITH theirs.
So again, his stats throwing to his other receivers are actually quite good. And most QBs will put up better stats throwing to one dominant WR compared to everyone else. I'll bet you a virtual beer that Matt Stafford's stats look much better throwing to Megatron than everyone else on the Lions combined.
I really don't think those stats mean what you think they mean.
The only player I want the Browns to draft is Ha Ha Dix...
Simply for his name.
I have a feeling that Johnny Football won't be at #4 when the Browns go to pick, and I'm fine with that because I want him to fail so Chuck Booms can eat fething crow.
Browns got a great trade off Buffalo, a 1st & 4th next year as well as 9th overall pick this year
As for Revis Island surely he'll be blanketing Stevie Johnson?
Who do the falcons take here? A tackle? Luwan? Mathews?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Stevie is the only guy who has consistantly torched revis. I doubt they put in on Johnson. My guess is a combination of dennard/mccourty bracketing Johnson. With revis on Watkins.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Stevie is the only guy who has consistantly torched revis. I doubt they put in on Johnson. My guess is a combination of dennard/mccourty bracketing Johnson. With revis on Watkins.
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote: Evans off to Tampa and not get anything out of McCown & Lovie's scheme
Minnesota in trade with Cleveland for their 5th & switching 1sts
And Cleveland haven't won a play-off game since I've been alive? me
How do you think I feel... The last bastion of good players is Bernie Kosar, who slurs his speech due to concussions and alcohol... Though the man is fething brilliant when it comes to analyzing football... I'm gonna miss his pre-season coverage :(
I don't even need to know watt personally, just having watched a few interactions and interviews I don't think watts taking no gak from clowney. And my money is on watt in a fight soo.....
Didn't the big balls on Manziel say he was going to make every team pay if they passed him up? What if the Browns take him at 26, will he make them pay for passing him up at 4/8?
Alfndrate wrote: Didn't the big balls on Manziel say he was going to make every team pay if they passed him up? What if the Browns take him at 26, will he make them pay for passing him up at 4/8?
Maybe!
As for the Rams... I like their strategy of “kill Wilson and Kaep, the rest will sort itself out”.
God I hate my life right now. B's/Habs to OT and at leat another hour and a half till the patriots trade out of the first round. Meanwhile I have to up in 6 hours for work lol.
On too of that I didn't even get the joy of seeing manziel to the boyz.
Automatically Appended Next Post: We'll that got better with the B's winning ;p
Automatically Appended Next Post: LOLOLOL manziel to the browns. Almost as good as the cowboys.
Automatically Appended Next Post: For me, as a Seahawks fan, I am really indifferent to the Browns, but recent history does suggest that Cleveland is were QBs go to disappear
Tj ward.(yes I know he's no longer there, but feth that guy for last year)
Then be angry at him, not the Browns. Not to mention you can barely touch receivers in the league nowadays.
Whembly, it wasn't directed at you, it was directed at chance and ensis.
Also who the feth is Eric Couch? Do you mean Tim Couch, who flicked off the Steelers end zone seats when he ran in a TD and unfortunately got screwed in a regime.change?
Stupid cardinals. Was REALLY hoping Bucannon to patriots ;(
Automatically Appended Next Post: Benjamin to the panthers is a nice choice I think. Give cam some targets.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I guess easley's Medicals checked out. Here's hoping! Love the pick though. Patriots defense is gonna be NASTY this year.
Chicago can take either Dix or Pryor now. I feel like Pryor but I like Dix more
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
look out Wilson and kappernick!!!!!!!!!!!!
whembly, you're going to really like Donald. He played for my alma mater, so I watched him a lot. Crazy strong and quick (you see this on the field AND in his combine numbers), great attitude, and he'll be one of your team's hardest workers. All he did this past season was win the Lombardi, Bednarik, Outland and Nagurski trophies. The best comparisons might be John Randle or Warren Sapp.
I just don't see any obvious bust factors with the kid. I know teams would like him to be a little bigger, but the guy can bench a car...what difference does 15 more pounds make? And to show you that I'm not just being a homer, I wouldn't go near Tom Savage in the 2nd round like some draftniks are saying. I'm rooting for the kid, but I really don't see him as a starting-caliber NFL QB.
Anyhoo, the draft broke really badly for the Steelers, with Gilbert, Fuller and Beckham all off the board at 15! I don't think many predicted that! CB was easily their biggest need, but with the two guys who fit them best being gone, I'm okay with them taking an ultra-athletic LB. I'm not sure there was much separation between the WRs and CBs left at that point and the guys that will still be there in round 2.
Chicago can take either Dix or Pryor now. I feel like Pryor but I like Dix more
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
look out Wilson and kappernick!!!!!!!!!!!!
whembly, you're going to really like Donald. He played for my alma mater, so I watched him a lot. Crazy strong and quick (you see this on the field AND in his combine numbers), great attitude, and he'll be one of your team's hardest workers. All he did this past season was win the Lombardi, Bednarik, Outland and Nagurski trophies. The best comparisons might be John Randle or Warren Sapp.
I've been salivating over this guy last night watching all the highlight clips of his...
Jeebus, I think he's the Rams' answer for a "inside rush DT" we've been lacking.
With Donald and GRobinson... I think Fisher just declared "Old Man Football" war on the NFC West.
Alfndrate wrote: Also who the feth is Eric Couch? Do you mean Tim Couch, who flicked off the Steelers end zone seats when he ran in a TD and unfortunately got screwed in a regime.change?
Probably a mashup of Tim Couch and Eric CROUCH, the former Heisman winner.
WarOne wrote: Highly surprised Jets didn't take Mr. Football when they had the chance. They're known for ruining and driving out QBs from their organization.
They'd be a match made in heaven.
Idzik & Ryan are locked into Geno Smith though, it would make 0 sense to take Manziel
was surprised to see Buchannon and Jimmie Ward gone, felt like both those picks were a bit of a reach
And kinda surprised Minnesota traded back into the first for Bridgewater, since Cleveland skipped on him & the Texans, Redskins, Jags would be better trading parties in the top of the second (As Oakland may have tried and got him @36)
I think you'll be surprised how good buchanon is gonna be. He's a Rodney Harrison clone. He was the guy I hoped the patriots picked and was extremely bummed he went to the cardinals.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm not sold on Easley. Clearly he has top end talent. But double ACL's scares me ;p
Automatically Appended Next Post: And lots of rumors saying the Seahawks traded out of 32 because the pats took Easley. That makes me feel better as they've drafted extremely well lately.
Ohhhhh my godddddddd the Bills actually did something exciting! Unfortunately we put all of our eggs into the E.J. Manuel basket because we won't be able to draft a 1st round QB next year if he ends up sucking. Still pretty excited for Watkins though!
SF have traded a conditional pick to Buffalo for Stevie Johnson for a conditional pick in a year (4th potentially a 3rd)
Seems Revis will get to battle Watkins unless Robert Woods has a breakout year
whembly wrote: Sweet mother of god... I just found another highlight clip of Aaron Donald. I know this is in College... but !!!
You can see how he just wrecks stuff inside...he's a TFL machine and a prototype 3-tech DT. Keep in mind that Donald made all those plays and won all those trophies without a lot of good players around him. It wasn't a very talented Pitt defense, and he faced a lot of double teams as a result.
But then I also heard a story about how an opposing coach stopped double-teaming him during a game. Apparently they tried everything they could to block him, but he was beating them anyway, so they said the hell with it. Obviously the NFL is a big step up, but the thing that's really going to let him shine with the Rams is that he's on a loaded d-line. He'll get plenty of opportunities to wreck stuff. It's a great situation for the kid.
Oh, and you know that he was only a 2- or 3-star rated player coming out of HS? Obviously he has rare gifts, but a lot of what you see there is a gakload of hard work and time in the weight room. Pitt fans are awfully proud of him.
My Steelers could really use a WR or CB in round 2...
NFL history for the second year in a row. A RB not taken till in the 50's talk about crazy.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Cincy we aren't allowed to mock Cleveland. Haven't you heard?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Wow NEP take a QB in the second round? Anyone know anything about garappolo besides he has a quick release? Hoping for an Aaron Rodgers scenario here I guess.
cincydooley wrote: No one had ever heard of him before the combine/pro day. Dunno how that bodes.
How many people outside of Michigan circles had heard of that d-bag Tom Brady before he got to the Pats? Honestly, because no ones heard of the guy doesn't really mean gak here. Bellichick, if he uses him, will know exactly how to get the most bang for the buck out of him.
I mean, no offense to the bro, but there's a world of difference between starting at Michigan and starting at Eastern Illinois.
Im not saying Garrapolo is bad, or will be bad, but I think we have to put some perspective behind starting at a B1G school for two years after the team had won a title and starting for a school in the Ohio Valley Conferende.
What the actual feth is Arizona doing Taking Logan Thomas over AJ McCarron, Tajh Boyd, Aaron Murray, Tom Savage and Zach Mettenburger. I'd even consider taking someone like Devin Gardner over Thomas, all he is is arm
Chancetragedy wrote: Haha all sorts of sensitivity in this thread ;p. can't wait for the real thread this year. Should be good.
should be about the same as last year:
Weeks 1-5 Cleveland fans will be "Yaayy, we're gonna go to the playoffs this year!!! THIS. IS. OUR.YEAR!!!!", Giants fans will be " WTF Coughlin!!!! TRADEEEEEE Manning! RAAAWWRRR"
Then, weeks 12-17, Cleveland fans will be "aww, well... there's always next year. Perhaps we can play the spoilers for this season" and Giants fans will be "Coughlin's a genius, we need to extend him. Looks like we're getting ready for another playoff run"
Ohh, and weeks 1-17, Cowboys fans will be "Romo!!!" intermixed week to week with "ugh.... romo"
So no Michael Sam yet. I can only imagine the crap storm were about to witness if he doesn't get drafted. Wish the kid the best hopefully he catches on somewhere.
So no Michael Sam yet. I can only imagine the crap storm were about to witness if he doesn't get drafted. Wish the kid the best hopefully he catches on somewhere.
The best team he should go to... and I'm not even kidding... is the 49er.
He's a perfect 3rd down player, ala Aldon Smith when he first joined.
Dude... I just creamed my pants. This defense is going to be something else! (don't forget, we hired The Greg Williams as DC!)
Michael Sam will add exactly nothing. He's going to play special teams if he even makes the team. Which he probably won't.
i'm happy for him, i just hope that if he struggles and doesnt make the team that the media allows it to be a football story and not try to make it about a gay player getting cut.
Same. If he can't play he can't play. I personally think he'll find a way to carve out a spot for himself. Dude was too productive to not have a good chance of succeeding. But who knows time will tell.
Chancetragedy wrote: Haha all sorts of sensitivity in this thread ;p. can't wait for the real thread this year. Should be good.
should be about the same as last year:
Weeks 1-5 Cleveland fans will be "Yaayy, we're gonna go to the playoffs this year!!! THIS. IS. OUR.YEAR!!!!", Giants fans will be " WTF Coughlin!!!! TRADEEEEEE Manning! RAAAWWRRR"
Then, weeks 12-17, Cleveland fans will be "aww, well... there's always next year. Perhaps we can play the spoilers for this season" and Giants fans will be "Coughlin's a genius, we need to extend him. Looks like we're getting ready for another playoff run"
Ohh, and weeks 1-17, Cowboys fans will be "Romo!!!" intermixed week to week with "ugh.... romo"
I contest this, as the only Browns fan in these threads, I will wait until weeks 16 and 17 before I go "Yaayy, we're gonna go to the playoffs this year!!!!..." etc... Because let's face it, the Browns have quite the steep hill before it becomes "our year". Otherwise, pretty accurate.
It looks like 7.8 still would rank in the top 25%-ish in the NCAA last year...in other words, similar to 8th in the NFL (32 teams). Note that would be Manziel WITHOUT his best deep threat vs. everyone else WITH theirs.
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