I made a thread about make your Unbound lists that be fluffy or break the game. Since there was not a lot of Fluffy lists in there, please make your Unbound list that is fluffy and you always wanted to field but couldn't because of the rules.

Let's see your Fluffy Unbound lists.

Some cool ones:

All Sternguard with Kantor. The defenders of Rynn's World.

BA all-termies, led by a Librarian. Space Hulk +1 (although this was already doable with Deathwing counts-as)

Leman Russ armoured column. (doable with FW ABG)

 Paradigm wrote:
Some cool ones:


BA all-termies, led by a Librarian. Space Hulk +1 (although this was already doable with Deathwing counts-as)

Now you can do that without Counts As now. Unless you liked the DA rules that went with it.

An Eldar Swordwind army that doesn't have Dire Avengers!

Deathwatch using sternguard and vanguard marines.

Space Marine armored columns.

Titan maniples.

Artillery positions.

1st Company Mass Deployment

10th Company Mass Deployment

Hector Rex with acolytes and GK.

Black Templar:
6 Assault Terminators w/ 4 TH/SS
Land Raider Crusader w/ MM

6 Assault Terminators w/ 4 TH/SS
Land Raider Crusader w/ MM

5 Assault Terminators w/ 4 TH/SS
Land Raider Crusader w/ MM

5 Assault Terminators w/ 4 TH/SS
Land Raider Crusader w/ MM

2000 points

There is a mention of a Piranha training planet being besieged by ork battle wagons.

So
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/1 Fusion Blaster

1750.
40 fast skimmers, 80 gun drones.

As I keep looking forward to

1500pts

Canis Wolfborn
161 Fenrisian Wolves

 PotentiallyLethal wrote:
As I keep looking forward to

1500pts

Canis Wolfborn
161 Fenrisian Wolves

I don't know what that is. What is it? What makes that unit that you couldn't field it? A reason why I made this thread. To see what I am missing and don't know about.

 Savageconvoy wrote:
There is a mention of a Piranha training planet being besieged by ork battle wagons.

So
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/1 Fusion Blaster

1750.
40 fast skimmers, 80 gun drones.

Just for the sake of symmetry I'd allow you to take that last Fusion Blaster, points be damned.

My all Genestealer army. Would be nice to not have to pay the HQ tax on it.

Davor wrote:

 PotentiallyLethal wrote:
As I keep looking forward to

1500pts

Canis Wolfborn
161 Fenrisian Wolves

I don't know what that is. What is it? What makes that unit that you couldn't field it? A reason why I made this thread. To see what I am missing and don't know about.

Canis is a Space Wolves HQ choice with an affinity for Wolves (that's why he's called Wolfborn), with Canis the normal max for Fenrisian Wolves (a troop choice with Canis) is 90. I just want to see a really fluffy Space Wolves army

An All Dreadnaught Army and Lanraider army lead by a MOTF

a true speedfreaks list

10 trukk mobz,

6 biker mobz

a couple dozen buggies

all vehicles red of course.

Big Mek Dattrukk wrote:
a true speedfreaks list

10 trukk mobz,

6 biker mobz

a couple dozen buggies

all vehicles red of course.

This against the Piranha list. Let's see who is the fastest.

Scarabs. All Scarabs. oh and 3 Spyders to make more. I would then have some kind of trolltastic video playing on my phone while it was my turn.

 Savageconvoy wrote:

Big Mek Dattrukk wrote:
a true speedfreaks list

10 trukk mobz,

6 biker mobz

a couple dozen buggies

all vehicles red of course.

This against the Piranha list. Let's see who is the fastest.

Make it a 3-way fight. Landspeeders ahoy!

All armies built from only one codex.

Im looking forward to being able to recreate armies like from codex witch hunters and daemon hunters with inquisitorial stormtroopers as the backbone of the army

Also being able to merge eldar and dark eldar seamlessly is going to be awesome for playing corsair and exodite lists

Ordo assassnarium army
Nothing except scary number of vindicare assassins, backed by some odd stealth-type units as "disciples"
About as inefficient as it gets, but would be amusing, and wont cost that much to build.


Also, the ability to get pretty much any unit I was as a rule base for making tau auxiliary conversions is BOUND to bring nearly as many conversion as ork armies looting anything and everything.


And a farsight army that beyond the mandatory 3-suit team, every single unit in the army is a lone crisis suit.

Imperial Knights would probably despise playing against that Vindicare list. You could take like 5-10 of them and kill 1-2 Knights per turn with some halfway decent rolling while hiding in cover the whole time hahaha.

It will be nice to have a plague marine army led by a nurgle sorceror without having to bother about with a marked lord.

I have an idea for an army that I think the Unbound rules may make possible, depending on how allying works. The idea is that there was a small chapter of space marines who battled an incredibly powerful Chaos sorcerer and destroyed him, but were themselves nearly destroyed in the process. The survivors of the chapter found themselves in possession of a powerful spellbook, the Book of Black Words. Needing to keep it safe, they allowed the Imperium to believe the entire chapter was lost and retreated to a secret Shrine World where they could build a monastery, changed their name to the Tome Guardians and hid the book away. Centuries later they were visited by an Inquisitor who had discovered their secret. Soon after he arrived, a vastly superior force of Chaos Marines showed up and began sacking the planet. The Inquisitor convinced the Tome Guardian's chapter master to turn to the Book of Black Words to find some weapon to use against the Chaos, to "fight fire with fire." The chapter master did so, and in the process caused all under his guardianship to fall to Chaos -- which is when the Inquisitor revealed he was actually a Chaos Sorcerer, the apprentice of the wizard they had killed centuries ago, and that the invading force of Chaos Marines was all illusions and tricks, plus the Sorcerer's pet Heldrake (because every evil wizard should have a pet dragon).

My plan originally was to build the army as CSM using Space Marine models, as the chapter as only just fallen. But the Unbound rules might allow me to run the fallen Tome Guardians as a Codex Space Marine army with a Chaos Sorcerer and Heldrake as allies, without having to take any Chaos troops. That would be very cool.

Iron Warriors air-raid unit.

1700 points, ten Heldrakes.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Iron Warriors air-raid unit.

1700 points, ten Heldrakes.

Challenge accepted. Heldrakes auto-lose after Turn One because no models on board.

But seriously, I think Unbound has potential for themed, fluffy lists.

Night Lords that are all Raptor/Warp Talon? Check!
All jump pack Raven Guard? Check!
Iron Warriors with the 3.5 artillery back in? Check!
A rough rider themed IG army (think pure cav-just tanks and mounted riders, nothing moving less than 12" a turn if it wants to)? Check

Chaos Ravenwing or Chaos Deathwing

Baharroth, 2 autarchs and swooping hawks

Iron Warriors:

Chaos Lord w/termi armor, cmbi-melta, PF.

Chaos Terminators

3x10 chaos marines w/rhinos, plasma/melta, combi-flamers on champions.

1 AM veterans with demolitions, chimera

1 AM infantry platoon

Land Raider (Dozer Blade)

1 Oblit cults (x3)

2 Vindicators

2 Basilisk artillery

Well, there's the obvious Night Lords list with far more Raptors and Warp Talons that one can normally bring, coupled with the ability to freely build Claws up to the company level. You can now make a Word Bearer army with f*cktons of Cultists, coupled with Chaos Space Marines, Chosen, and a Dark Apostle. You can finally bring back the Genestealer swarms, if not make an actual swarm Tyranid army (don't really need to worry about synapse now). Oh, you can also now bring a proper Imperial Guard armor company or an infantry regiment. Chaos Space Marines can bring Daemon Allies that are only lesser daemons, not greater daemons who should be leading both factions. Space Marines can field proper first company lists, all terminator lists are no longer limited to the Dark Angels.

Abaddon's personal retinue of guards - a force comprised entirely of Chaos terminators.

Be'lakor, the first daemon prince, has enslaved a planet:

CSM:
Be'lakor [350 pts]
Typhus (Being my genocidal fluff character who assists Be'lakor) [230 pts]
35x Zombies [150 pts]
25x Zombies [110 pts]
Heldrake (Mmmm... pet dragons) [170 pts]

Allied:
Leman Russ Vanquisher w/Lascannon [140 pts]
Leman Russ Exterminator w/HB Sponsons, Lascannon [165 pts]
Leman Russ Executioner w/Plasma Sponsons [185 pts]

At 1500 points, it's almost Herohammer

PanzerLeader wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
Iron Warriors air-raid unit.

1700 points, ten Heldrakes.

Challenge accepted. Heldrakes auto-lose after Turn One because no models on board.

1700 points, eight Heldrakes, ten Plague Marines.

#Forging the narrative

 Ashiraya wrote:

PanzerLeader wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
Iron Warriors air-raid unit.

1700 points, ten Heldrakes.

Challenge accepted. Heldrakes auto-lose after Turn One because no models on board.

1700 points, eight Heldrakes, ten Plague Marines.

#Forging the narrative

Much heresy.

Operation pacific rim:

All the wraithknights, ALL OF THEM. Play a quadruples game to work with Riptides, Imperial Knights, and Dreadknights.

Vs a massive horde of Tyranid and Chaos monstrous creatures. Maybe some Squiggoths and Knarlocs too.

Blood Ravens 1st Company:

Chapter Master w/ TH, Artificer Armour

Captain w/ Power Weapon, Jump Pack, Artificer Armour, Teleport Homer

8x Honour Guard, 5w/ Relic Blades, Chapter Banner

ML2 Librarian

ML2 Librarian w/ Terminator Armour

5x Tactical Terminators w/ Assault Cannon

5x TH/SS Terminators

9x Vanguard Veterans, 5w/ Power Weapons, Sgt w/ Relic Blade, 2x Grav Pistols, 2x Plasma Pistols

8x Sternguard w/ 2x Combi Melta, Drop Pod w/ Deathwind Missile

1x Dreadnought w/ Assault Cannon

A bit of hero hammer going on, but it's the kind of army I wanted to do from the get-go with Marines. The only model I need to get is the Dreadnought, and I've got an alternate list which drops the terminator librarian and dread for a Land Raider for the chapter master. A strong incentive for me to go back and repaint an early army of mine, and paint a big backlog of models I had for the army which never got used.

Warhounds, lots and lots of Warhounds, maybe a Reaver for moral support.

 Kain wrote:
Operation pacific rim:

All the wraithknights, ALL OF THEM. Play a quadruples game to work with Riptides, Imperial Knights, and Dreadknights.

Vs a massive horde of Tyranid and Chaos monstrous creatures. Maybe some Squiggoths and Knarlocs too.

Thing is you can do this now using the Apocalypse ruleset and I now want to do that at club, see if a few of us can scrape up that kind of battle

This thread REALLY makes me want to rebuild my old Iron Warriors army. No! Must... focus.. finish.. Imperial Guard.. first...

Thunderwolf lord with has many thunderwolves as possible

Created account just to contribute this: All Chapter Masters All the Time. As many as you can fit, pray you go first, drop all the orbital bombardments at once and hope for the best.

BA all-termies, led by a Librarian. Space Hulk +1 (although this was already doable with Deathwing counts-as)

Actually, that's one of my armies. Wanted a good reason to use all those awesome Terminators outside of Space Hulk 3e.

8ish Chapter Masters with Jump Packs and assorted close combat gear.

Blood Angels Movie Marines!

 Thud wrote:
8ish Chapter Masters with Jump Packs and assorted close combat gear.

Blood Angels Movie Marines!

I'd play against that

With Daemon Princes

BBoS on one, Back Mace on the other, Be'lakor alongside...

Only Space Marine captains with really good weapons led by a Special Character.

I know that this thread is about army lists, but I can't bother to make all of those examples in form of a list but here's some ideas:

1st company: Chapta Masta with HG and all Sternguard/Vanguard squads in drop pods.

The Unforgotten: imperial heroes of old marching into battle clad in heavy Dreadnought suits. All-dreadnought army led by a venerable dread for some flavour! Could ally in some fragiosos for sweet horde pummeling fun.

Dead on the march: Lords and Necron Warriors everywhere, although it can be achieved by double foc just as well.

Basically any army's armoured company.. give me a skyray/hammerhead army led by Longstrike!

Chosen, Sternguard or terminator troops.

Eldar Aspect forces.

A Grot Liberation Army with tanks!

A team of captains or even chapter masters vs a cultist spam for some cinematic stuff worthy of Black Library books.

Hell, even small things like commissar squads in addition to 'regular' IG army!

Or an all-devastator Imperial Fists army.

An army of nothing but IG platoonsmen.

Call yourself Chenkov, and you're golden.

At 1500 points, CCS with MoO and 11 Basilisks.

Let's see. A list of Tyranids that are Fluffy....

How about a Subterranean Assault? Not including the Dataslates. 1500pts.

1 Lictor

3 Ripper Swarms
-Spine Fists
3 Ripper Swarms
-Spine Fists
3 Ripper Swarms
-Spine Fists

Ravener Brood (5) + Red Terror
-Deathspitters + Rending Claws
Ravener Brood (4)
Ravener Brood (4)
Ravener Brood (4)

Mawloc
-Adrenal Glands
Mawloc
- Adrenal Glands
Mawloc
- Adrenal Glands
Mawloc
- Adrenal Glands

A total of 1493 pts. And no Synapse in sight... I suppose I'd have to ask to forgo IB Rules if I was to use this particular fluffy list. Everything has Feed, so it would end very badly if my opponent decided to say no for that.

How about the ultimate co-op of the marine chapters, white scar bikers, raven guard/BA jump troops, imperial fist devastators, all iron hands vehicles with techies, throw in some deathwing, and flaming salamanders for fun.

I personally have plans on making the raven wing without Sammie due to my hatred of named characters already.

Autarch or Farseer

Fire Dragons, DAs, and Banshees.

All in Falcons (4+).

(I love mechdar!)

Full on Speed Freaks warbikers army without the need for Wazdakka, lead by a legit bike-ridin' Warboss. That or a literal Luftwaffle airforce with vanguarding deffkoptas and a mix of dakkajets and various bombers.

Trazyn's Acquisition Council - 1985 points

Trazyn - 175 points

4x Overlords - 780 points
Warscythe, Tessaract, Sepiternal Weave, Phase Shifter, 2x res orb

10xLychgard - 450 points
5xHarbingers of Eternity - 200 points
Chronometron
Nightscythe - 100 points

Royal Court - 280 points
4x lords - 55 points each
Staff of light, Tessaract
Harbinger of Despair - 60 points
Veil of Darkness

Might be a little game breaking. It's just borrowing the theme from the apocalypse formation where lychgard have a 3+ invuln instead of a 4+.

Only you have 8 tessaract labyrinths on the field with a unit of lychgard with 5 rerollable D6 per phase.

I have all the models I would need to field this.

 XT-1984 wrote:
Chaos Ravenwing or Chaos Deathwing

Heresy!

The first thing I thought of when I heard of Unbound was I can now run a tribute to Eldar Fluff and bring Jain Zar and 100 Banshees. But that's just from one Codex.

Somebody mentioned Alien Auxiliaries for Tau. I love the idea, Dal'yth is described as a very metropolitan Sept. I've been wanting to do Gue'vesa since I first picked up the army, if nothing more than to annoy a friend who plays IG.

Ork DeffSquadron, pack in as many dakkajets as possible and just fly around shooting and hopefully ramming stuff.
Hilarity guaranteed.

 Ratius wrote:
Ork DeffSquadron, pack in as many dakkajets as possible and just fly around shooting and hopefully ramming stuff.
Hilarity guaranteed.

Bonus points for taking Deffkoptaz so that you're not tabled on T1.

12 Talos, 6 Cronos with Spirit Vortex.

1 Haemonculus sitting at the back cackling maniacally.

1850 points.

2 Tyranid Wrecker Nodes + 1 Tyranid Bio-blast Node
all formations. a hell of a lot of carnifexes, and synapse. It would be glorious

Dark Eldar Reaver gang.

Dark Eldar Hellion gang.

 XT-1984 wrote:
Chaos Ravenwing or Chaos Deathwing

That wouldn't be fluffy, it isn't real, how dare you accuse the dark angels in this manner.


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Funny list ideas

All gretchin army

All genestealer army

Imperial guard conscript army, behold: 2000 points

Command squad x2 120 + upgrades

Conscripts x8 (50man) 400men 1200

2 leman Russ vanquishers with melta sponsors and heavy flamer 310
3 primaris psykers lvl 2 225

Remaining points for upgrades to command squad have fun with 400 frag grenades

 PotentiallyLethal wrote:

 Kain wrote:
Operation pacific rim:

All the wraithknights, ALL OF THEM. Play a quadruples game to work with Riptides, Imperial Knights, and Dreadknights.

Vs a massive horde of Tyranid and Chaos monstrous creatures. Maybe some Squiggoths and Knarlocs too.

Thing is you can do this now using the Apocalypse ruleset and I now want to do that at club, see if a few of us can scrape up that kind of battle

Tell me how it goes!

Feel free to throw in Necron MCs and walkers.

Armoured Interdiction Cadre

1 hammerhead with longstrike
2 hammerheads with railguns
2 hammerheads with ion cannons
2 skyray missile defense ships

Kroot Mecenraies Detachment
4 Kroot Carnivore squads
3 Knarloc Rider Herds
1 Great Knarloc

Ranged Patrol Wing
4 Piranha Light Skimmer teams
1 Tetra Scout Skimmer team

 Dylanj94 wrote:

Imperial guard conscript army, behold: 2000 points

Command squad x2 120 + upgrades

Conscripts x8 (50man) 400men 1200

2 leman Russ vanquishers with melta sponsors and heavy flamer 310
3 primaris psykers lvl 2 225

Remaining points for upgrades to command squad have fun with 400 frag grenades

You still need to follow the rules for Platoons.

Unbound only removes the FoC, not organisational restrictions.

 Selym wrote:

 Dylanj94 wrote:

Imperial guard conscript army, behold: 2000 points

Command squad x2 120 + upgrades

Conscripts x8 (50man) 400men 1200

2 leman Russ vanquishers with melta sponsors and heavy flamer 310
3 primaris psykers lvl 2 225

Remaining points for upgrades to command squad have fun with 400 frag grenades

You still need to follow the rules for Platoons.

Unbound only removes the FoC, not organisational restrictions.

I thought that by removing the FOC that it removed all ordinary restrictions. On the site I went on it said that it was designed to use any models you wanted in your army and still be legal. If I'm wrong then replace all instances of conascript with 1200 points worth of primaris psykers at level 1 leaving the other 3 at level 2

IG artillery column.

All the artillery.

Forever!

With a small meatshield of conscripts of course.

Basilisks.....everywhere

 Gavik Dross wrote:
How about the ultimate co-op of the marine chapters, white scar bikers, raven guard/BA jump troops, imperial fist devastators, all iron hands vehicles with techies, throw in some deathwing, and flaming salamanders for fun.

Not a bad idea, actually. I tend to run Crusade-style multi-chapter armies already, but use the Chapter Tactics of whoever is leading the force. Being able to run each squad with its proper CT might be pretty damn cool and fluffy. It also gives me excuses to do things like squads of BT Crusaders or IH Dreads without committing to a full army.

Bonus points for taking Deffkoptaz so that you're not tabled on T1.

Orks care not for such nuances.

A Warpsmith with lots of Daemon Engines.

Five MoN Chaos Decimators, each with three warpsmiths, as well as three full-size cultists units each with a dark apostle. And some heldrakes, because why not.

2 Revenant Titans and 2 Night Scythes as a legal and all scoring army in 2000 points. Could go with a Heldrake as well. Or a bunch of Sabre Defence Platforms.

heh...

9 30x Boyz with Nob/Pklaw

1980pts

Boyz need no leader! WAAAAAGH!

 Vineheart01 wrote:
heh...

9 30x Boyz with Nob/Pklaw

1980pts

Boyz need no leader! WAAAAAGH!

No, better; an all Warboss Waaagh with Gazghkull to represent his personal guard.

The dreadnought defenders of Baal. All dreadnoughts against an entire ork Waaaaaaghh!

Also, a Deathwatch army comprised of nothing but captains. Because why not?

 Dylanj94 wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 Dylanj94 wrote:

Imperial guard conscript army, behold: 2000 points

Command squad x2 120 + upgrades

Conscripts x8 (50man) 400men 1200

2 leman Russ vanquishers with melta sponsors and heavy flamer 310
3 primaris psykers lvl 2 225

Remaining points for upgrades to command squad have fun with 400 frag grenades

You still need to follow the rules for Platoons.

Unbound only removes the FoC, not organisational restrictions.

I thought that by removing the FOC that it removed all ordinary restrictions. On the site I went on it said that it was designed to use any models you wanted in your army and still be legal. If I'm wrong then replace all instances of conascript with 1200 points worth of primaris psykers at level 1 leaving the other 3 at level 2

Pretty sure thats wrong. For example I believe you still need dire avengers to take a wave serpent.

word bearers: dozens of cultitst squads backed by mass possessed and chaos marines plus daemons engines

my own army a successor dark angels army had split into civil war with the raven wing side of the chapter turning to chaos and the deathwing side stay loyal
raven wing allied with chaos would be awesome

sisters of battle with slaanesh allies and fallen space marines led by that fallen sister

Necrons using imperial guard conscripts as slave troops

Radical inquisitor using hordes of summoned daemons as allies

Battle for Macragge

Terminator Captain
Terminator Librarian
Terminator Tactical Squads
Sternguard Squads

Also a Deathwatch army.
Captain with specialist ammunition (Tycho?)
Many squads of Sternguard Marines with Deathwatch markings.

101st Airborne.

6x Veterans squads
Sergeants have power weapons
6 Shotguns
2 flamers
1 melta

6 Valkyries
MRP's
Sponson heavy bolters

1500pts.

1,500 points of all Lone Wolves and 3 Land Raiders. My plan? Box up one Lone Wolf with 3 Land Raiders to protect him. Suicide all other Lone Wolves.

 Noremac wrote:
1,500 points of all Lone Wolves and 3 Land Raiders. My plan? Box up one Lone Wolf with 3 Land Raiders to protect him. Suicide all other Lone Wolves.

You realize all your savvy opponent has to do is avoid you, and you lose with maybe -20

The "Angelic Host of Baal" consisting of The Sanguinor and/or Commander Dante and as many Sanguinary Guard as you want. Maybe sprinkle in some Land Speeders, Storm Ravens or Stormtalons.

Blood Angels 1:
All death company. All expendable, no leaders.

Blood Angels 2:
A staggering amount of Vanguard veterans doing their deep strike assaults.

niv-mizzet wrote:
Blood Angels 1:
All death company. All expendable, no leaders.

I'm not sure that the Unbound rules allow you to ignore the 0-1 limit. Anyway, Astorath isn't that big of a penalty to allow you to have the bonuses of a Battle Forged army.

 Pyeatt wrote:

 Noremac wrote:
1,500 points of all Lone Wolves and 3 Land Raiders. My plan? Box up one Lone Wolf with 3 Land Raiders to protect him. Suicide all other Lone Wolves.

You realize all your savvy opponent has to do is avoid you, and you lose with maybe -20

If it is Kill Points. Then what do you do?

Shot artillery at the guy? Ram him with a Hades Breaching Drill?

 Savageconvoy wrote:
There is a mention of a Piranha training planet being besieged by ork battle wagons.

So
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/2 Fusion Blasters
Squadron of 5 Piranha w/1 Fusion Blaster

1750.
40 fast skimmers, 80 gun drones.

Brilliant. Now you have to buy only 40 piranhas..

Chaos lord
W/sigil of corruption, storm bolter, power axe, terminator armour.

Chaos spawn.
Chaos spawn.
So many chaos spawn.

Mass deployment of a Marine reserve company. You can get 7x 10 man devastator squads (4 with 4x HBs and 3 with 4xLCs) into 1500 points with a few points left over for a company captain.

Alternatively, does it finally allow for a decent Genestealer cult army by allowing Genestealers and Guard in the same army?

I would like to (just for fun) make (as close as possible) the Space Marine force I build up in DoW: Soul Storm

Chapter Master
Librarian
Chaplain
2 Dreadnoughts
Assault Terminators (SS/TH)
Terminators (2x Assault Cannon)
Assault Marines (Sarge with PF/PP)
3x Devastator (2x HB, 2x ML; Sarge with PF/PP; Rhino)
Devastator (2x HB, 2x ML; Sarge with PF/PP)
Land Speeder
Land Raider
2x Predator

Grey Knight Strike Squad


Not sure on points but it would be kinda fun to be able to actually run it. Once.

After reading these, I think my model buying addiction actually got WORSE now. Oh well, back to eBay... Its been a while....

Farsight's "The Eight".

@ Just shy of 1500 points:

Farsight
1x Riptide
1x Broadside
5 x Crisis Battlesuit "Commanders"

Nice and fluffy and exactly what I'm currently building! :-)

Send in the Clowns! My Harlequin army:

Solitaire counts as: Lelith Hesperax

Great Harlequin counts as Autarch

Farseers counts as: Shadowseers

Several squads of Harlequins mounted in Venoms

Wraithlords

Shining spears counts as: Jetbike Harlequins

Scourges with Dark Lances counts as: Death Jesters.

Not because it's good, but because 100 boltguns are very, very cool. I'd field this footslogging wall of bolter fire.



Chaplain
10 x 10 Tactical marines, all boltguns
3x Dreadnoughts, assault cannons and heavy flamers
Around 1850p

No anti-tank, no anti-flier just massed infantry. It would never be good, but very cool.

@westiebestie
Thanks to foots logging marines, having money is a thing of the past. That's around $400 USD just for marines. Damn.

 westiebestie wrote:

Chaplain
10 x 10 Tactical marines, all boltguns
3x Dreadnoughts, assault cannons and heavy flamers
Around 1850p

No anti-tank, no anti-flier just massed infantry. It would never be good, but very cool.

Obviously with FW Mk. III Marines, right?

I was thinking it might be cool to make Unbound Codexes - I know it sounds wrong but having a proper Codex army list of you fluffy Unbound army would be cool ?

CHAOS UNDIVIDED WITH ALL FLAVOURS OF CULT SQUADS AND DEMON PRINCES?

YES PLEASE

 Savageconvoy wrote:

Big Mek Dattrukk wrote:
a true speedfreaks list

10 trukk mobz,

6 biker mobz

a couple dozen buggies

all vehicles red of course.

This against the Piranha list. Let's see who is the fastest.

I see your all Piranha list, and raise you an all Eldar Hornet Interceptor list. Muhaha!

 westiebestie wrote:
Not because it's good, but because 100 boltguns are very, very cool. I'd field this footslogging wall of bolter fire.

Chaplain
10 x 10 Tactical marines, all boltguns
3x Dreadnoughts, assault cannons and heavy flamers
Around 1850p

No anti-tank, no anti-flier just massed infantry. It would never be good, but very cool.

From the way it sounds, you may be able to field this without using the rules for an Unbound army.

 Ghaz wrote:

 westiebestie wrote:
Not because it's good, but because 100 boltguns are very, very cool. I'd field this footslogging wall of bolter fire.

Chaplain
10 x 10 Tactical marines, all boltguns
3x Dreadnoughts, assault cannons and heavy flamers
Around 1850p

No anti-tank, no anti-flier just massed infantry. It would never be good, but very cool.

From the way it sounds, you may be able to field this without using the rules for an Unbound army.

Already can. SM can ally with other SM chapters, IIRC:

HQ:
Fluffmander

Troops:
10x Marines
10x Marines
10x Marines
10x Marines
10x Marines
10x Marines

Elites:
Dreadnought
Dreadnought
Dreadnought


Allies:

HQ:
Fluffmander 2

Troops:
10x Marines
10x Marines


______________________

Missing 20 marines, but the HQ's could make up for it.

 Selym wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 westiebestie wrote:
Not because it's good, but because 100 boltguns are very, very cool. I'd field this footslogging wall of bolter fire.

Chaplain
10 x 10 Tactical marines, all boltguns
3x Dreadnoughts, assault cannons and heavy flamers
Around 1850p

No anti-tank, no anti-flier just massed infantry. It would never be good, but very cool.

From the way it sounds, you may be able to field this without using the rules for an Unbound army.

Already can. SM can ally with other SM chapters, IIRC:

HQ:
Fluffmander

Troops:
10x Marines
10x Marines
10x Marines
10x Marines
10x Marines
10x Marines

Elites:
Dreadnought
Dreadnought
Dreadnought


Allies:

HQ:
Fluffmander 2

Troops:
10x Marines
10x Marines


______________________

Missing 20 marines, but the HQ's could make up for it.

I mean without allies and the full 100 Marines. The only deviation would be one additional Chaplain.

HQ:
Chaplain

Troops:
x60 Marines

Elites:
x3 Dreadnoughts

ALLIES

HQ:
Chaplain

Troops:
x20 Marines

INQUISITORIAL ALLIES:
x1 Naked Inquisitor
ALL THE HENCHMEN.
---
Yes, you can technically have two allies as per the rules in Codex: Inquisition
---
So sure, you are short 20 Marines, but you can a second Chaplain, a naked Inquisitor (Ooh, female Inquisitor! Malifaux minis, anyone ) Plus, you get all the Henchmen. Just Jokaeros 'erywhere.

You could get all 100 marines using dual FOC. Something I thought up would be a terminator strike force, using all manner of tactical/assault termies w/termie HQs and land raiders. Not many bodies, but would be fun to play.

Dual FoC is only for 2,000+ games.
IIRC,
-10 Man Tactical Squad *No Upgrades* = 150 Points
150 x 10 = 1,500.
+ 135 per Dreadnought (IIRC)
135 x 3 = 405
405 + 1,500
---
1,905
(Plus required HQs)
---
So yeah, this army list would be able to take advantage of the Double FoC, which means allies are completely unnecessary. Interesting. Actually a legal list for around some ~2100 odd points. (Give or take a few. Don't have the codex on hand so everything is IIRC.)

2000pts of Scout Sentinels. Last march of the useless metal chickens.

Okay.
Your 2,000 points of Useless Metal Chickens
VS
My 2,000 points of Fenrisian Wolves. Nothing else.

Chickens vs. Wolves. The Ultimate Showdown.

If your wolves could somehow set up an ambush involving logs swinging out of trees and crushing my chickens, then a victory for you would be plausible. Otherwise, we'd have a comical reverse scenario, of chickens killing wolves in their droves.


And then feasting on their corpses.

Ha. I love it.

Two Revenant Titans. I'd call them Max and Myria Sterling

 Sephyr wrote:
Iron Warriors:

Chaos Lord w/termi armor, cmbi-melta, PF.

Chaos Terminators

3x10 chaos marines w/rhinos, plasma/melta, combi-flamers on champions.

1 AM veterans with demolitions, chimera

1 AM infantry platoon

Land Raider (Dozer Blade)

1 Oblit cults (x3)

2 Vindicators

2 Basilisk artillery

Though incredibly late.

Wall of Martyers imperial defense network fully decked out with barricades, tank traps, and all the fun stuff.
Macro cannon on one side, vortex missile aquila on the other.

Fill out the rest with Imperial fist TFCs and devastators.

Come at me Bro.

Antaykyr the Travellars true Machine tide

19 A-Barges for AT, AA, AI
1 CCB for fun


or

Nemesor Zahndrehk's undying horde

3 Ghost Arks w/ 3 squads of 35 warriors
3 necron lords w/ res Orbs

 Noremac wrote:
Dual FoC is only for 2,000+ games.

In the current edition. That does not look to be the case in 7th edition.

@Ghaz,
Shh. We do not speak of 7th Edition. 7th Edition is the new 3rd Edition. We do not speak of 3rd Edition and we will continue to not speak of 7th Edition.

Then why are you posting in a thread entirely about 7th edition?

I don't think there is an Eldar fluffy list you can't already do. You could only do it more now without having the troop tax in there. Wraith army is limited by points, Saim Haim Jetbike army is limited by points. I think Eldar stuff just costs too much so we can get all of our fluff by the time we hit points cap.

@Ghaz,
It's just a joke! Hehe. But seriously, Unbound and all will be fun for casual play, assuming both you and your opponent agree to it (which will be the norm for me at least). But in terms of tournament play... well... 40k was a joke of a tournament game as it was. Unbound is one of the many final nails being punched in the coffin by the hammer that is 7th Edition.

Ahriman 230

Sorcerer
+2 Mastery
VotLW
MoTz
Spell Familiar
Aura of Dark Glory
Disc 190

Sorcerer
+2 Mastery
VotLW
MoTz
Spell Familiar
Disc 175

Sorcerer
+2 Mastery
VotLW
MoTz
Spell Familiar
Terminator
Scrolls of Magnus 215

Sorcerer
VotLW
+2 Mastery
Gift of Mutation
Spell Familiar
MoTz
Disc 185

Thousand Sons
+4 Sons
Icon 257

Thousand Sons
+4 Sons
Icon 257

Thousand Sons
+4 Sons
Icon 257

Thousand Sons
+4 Sons
Icon 257

1998


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 Kain wrote:
Operation pacific rim:

All the wraithknights, ALL OF THEM. Play a quadruples game to work with Riptides, Imperial Knights, and Dreadknights.

Vs a massive horde of Tyranid and Chaos monstrous creatures. Maybe some Squiggoths and Knarlocs too.

That sounds like it'd be a heck of a lot of fun.

Good 'ol Rubric Marines.

BladeSwinga wrote:
You could get all 100 marines using dual FOC. Something I thought up would be a terminator strike force, using all manner of tactical/assault termies w/termie HQs and land raiders. Not many bodies, but would be fun to play.

Couldn't he just take Devastators without any heavy weapons?

 Noremac wrote:
Good 'ol Rubric Marines.

I would need to build some with icons to make that list work. Also would need to make more disc sorcerers.

Fortunately, I have most of the bits to do both. Just need to get some discs, and get to building, and I'm in business.

 YFNPsycho wrote:

BladeSwinga wrote:
You could get all 100 marines using dual FOC. Something I thought up would be a terminator strike force, using all manner of tactical/assault termies w/termie HQs and land raiders. Not many bodies, but would be fun to play.

Couldn't he just take Devastators without any heavy weapons?

That would bring you up to 90, with options for BS 5 bolters

To fill up the rest, either footslogging assault marines or sternguard vets? Assault marines would give you either a drop pod or a MEHTAL BAWKS- erm, rhino, while sternguard would add some punch to your endless stream of bolter fire. And in the spirit of it, your HQ will have to take a bolter too. This whole list would be great with Imperial Fists CT.

5 LRC with deathwing vehicle and multimelta
Dakkabanner command squad.
Azrael

Monoliths. Monoliths everywhere.

Ha. All these puny lists still won't have a chance against my Fenrisian Wolves!

I'm having a hard time seeing a lot of the lists as "fluffy".

Noisemarines without a chaos lord. Dear god I want a list with noisemarines that are scoring without needing a chaos lord!!

Now if seventh makes EVERYTHING scoring like they have rumored, then this is possible with noisemarines as elites.

Also, I would like to just take a squad of seekers with a herald - or even without a herald, without having to take a squad of daemonettes as well. Or just lots of daemonettes without being restricted by the allied force org but without needing to roll on the daemon table. Or just take a Keeper of secrets without the daemonette tax. All sorts of things to allow me to be more slaaneshi.

You said "fluffy" so let's throw out some ideas (I'm not at home with Army Builder or my books to work out points for actual lists). I'm using the point from WD that they made about Unbound allowing you to mix armies.

1. Slaanesh-Possessed Sisters of Battle
If you've read Daemonifuge, that's where I'm getting this idea. There was a Sisters group that landed on a planet to investigate it, and a Keeper of Secrets tore their souls from their bodies and melded them together in some kind of crazy sphere, leaving the bodies to be possessed by daemons, who he later uses against Ephrael Stern and her fellow Sisters. This could be represented with a Keeper of Secrets, Slaanesh Daemons, and Sisters of Battle (just Sisters, no additions like Priest or whatever). Bonus for modeling the Sisters post-possession.

2. Blood Axes
Ork Blood Axes! Not just content to do things like have a bunch of Kommandos (assuming those are useful again). I mean complete with looted Imperial Guard vehicles, or even with mercenary or "rogue" IG elements in the army. The original Blood Axes army list actually included IG squads, so this makes sense.

3. Iron Warriors
Havocs out the wazoo, Vindicators, Obliterators, Basilisks borrowed from the IG... A true siege army, bringing devastating firepower.

4. Genestealer Cult
Genestealers, something to represent a Patriarch (Tyranid Prime?), and IG. A Primaris Psyker can represent a Magus. Alternately, Ork Stealer Cult.

5. Ork Freebooters / Assorted Pirates
Or just go the whole distance with Orks: Freebooterz! Shooty Orks with lots of bling, IG to represent human mercenaries, Eldar Guardians to represent Eldar Pirates, renegade Space Marines (CSM)... a merry band of misfits, without much in the way of tanks or artillery, but a scrappy attitude!

6. The Island of Doktor Morko
A mad Ork Painboss (and his assistant Painboyz and Mekboyz) come across a bunch of dead Tyranids and decide to "re-animate" them as some kind of insane creations. Model the Tyranids with extra bits bolted on, wires, tanks, etc.

7. Word Bearers
CSM and Daemons in a big mass, led by a Dark Apostle. Throw in Chaos Sorcerers with Malefic powers for extra bonus, and Cultists to represent local populace forced to fight for the Word Bearers and act as sacrifices to the Dark Gods (stab a cultist, summon a Herald!).

I'll surely think of more later. But I'd hope if people mix armies for something like this, they do work to model things up so it fits the theme, they don't just chuck models from different armies together for their own advantage. Biggest thing is, it'd look darned cool.


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 Spellbound wrote:
Now if seventh makes EVERYTHING scoring like they have rumored, then this is possible with noisemarines as elites.

Not a rumor. WD says all units are scoring now, but Troops choices in a Battle-Forged army will have priority over anything else (i.e. non-Troops in a BF army or anything in an Unbound army).

BladeSwinga wrote:

 YFNPsycho wrote:

BladeSwinga wrote:
You could get all 100 marines using dual FOC. Something I thought up would be a terminator strike force, using all manner of tactical/assault termies w/termie HQs and land raiders. Not many bodies, but would be fun to play.

Couldn't he just take Devastators without any heavy weapons?

That would bring you up to 90, with options for BS 5 bolters

To fill up the rest, either footslogging assault marines or sternguard vets? Assault marines would give you either a drop pod or a MEHTAL BAWKS- erm, rhino, while sternguard would add some punch to your endless stream of bolter fire. And in the spirit of it, your HQ will have to take a bolter too. This whole list would be great with Imperial Fists CT.

And if you use the sentinels of terra supplement you can take one squad of tacticals as HQ but the sergeant gets a captain's statline and a power fist and it costs some extra points. And you get the imperial fist chapter tactics with the modification that you re-roll all to hit rolls with bolters within half range. So provided you take naked devastators and the sentinels of terra supplement you can get to 100 marines with one FOC.

And if you want to be actually fluffy, you can still get a full battle company in one FOC.

Captain

6x10 Tacticals

2x10 Assault Marines

2x10 Devastators

1550.

200/300 points to give them guns and whatnot.

 Thud wrote:
And if you want to be actually fluffy, you can still get a full battle company in one FOC.

Captain

6x10 Tacticals

2x10 Assault Marines

2x10 Devastators

1550.

200/300 points to give them guns and whatnot.

Stock up on lascannons.

Pwn.

Couple of my own ideas, that have been touched on already.

Tzeentch CSM where all squads have a sorcerer in them, not just the 1KS.

CSM with heresy era tech, things like whirlwinds and the other equipment that all marines discard when they turn traitor.

prankster wrote:

Tzeentch CSM where all squads have a sorcerer in them, not just the 1KS.

Amusingly, that would be more effective than actual 1k sons armies

 Selym wrote:

prankster wrote:

Tzeentch CSM where all squads have a sorcerer in them, not just the 1KS.

Amusingly, that would be more effective than actual 1k sons armies

A poke in the eye is often more effective than an actual 1K Sons army Unless it's against one local opponent, then everything works as it's supposed to and there's pink fire everywhere.

Valhallan Strategic Rocket Forces

CCS- Master of Ordnance
12x Deathstrike Missiles

 EmilCrane wrote:
Valhallan Strategic Rocket Forces

CCS- Master of Ordnance
12x Deathstrike Missiles

To quote the late General Uustengrav of the 18th Landsharks' Artillery Detachment:

 EmilCrane wrote:
Valhallan Strategic Rocket Forces

CCS- Master of Ordnance
12x Deathstrike Missiles

Still can't handle my pure Fenrisian Wolves force.

My unbound list is based on the fluff of the frustrated 40K player...

Okay get this

All my stuff for sale on e-bay!!

try to beat that!!!

 Noremac wrote:

 EmilCrane wrote:
Valhallan Strategic Rocket Forces

CCS- Master of Ordnance
12x Deathstrike Missiles

Still can't handle my pure Fenrisian Wolves force.

Depends if I roll well first turn or not

 Noremac wrote:

 EmilCrane wrote:
Valhallan Strategic Rocket Forces

CCS- Master of Ordnance
12x Deathstrike Missiles

Still can't handle my pure Fenrisian Wolves force.

How many wolf and how tough?

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Noremac wrote:

 EmilCrane wrote:
Valhallan Strategic Rocket Forces

CCS- Master of Ordnance
12x Deathstrike Missiles

Still can't handle my pure Fenrisian Wolves force.

How many wolf and how tough?

[Using the totally "real" Forgeworld dataslate.]

Fenrisian Wolf Pack
---
500 Fenrisian Wolves.
*At the start of each one of your turns place another 100 Fenrisian Wolves on the table.*

Special Rules:

Hungry Like the Wolf:
All wolves never die and all their weapons are considered Str: D.


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Also, you MUST play "Hungry Like the Wolves" whenever it is your turn, on loop, on max volume. Each time you howl in synchronization with the song you gain 1,000,000 VPs.

Dang, the 100 bolter marines-army is growing in its appeal. Whoever is the first to field it, remember to take pictures!

Given that snap fire now will be on BS -2 meaning 5s to hit, and combined with either Ultramarines or Imperial Fists (bolter drill) chapter tactics, it would actually be hilarious to watch them kill some stuff. For example boatloads of Fenrisian wolves or boyz.

Devastator squads without heavy weapons, all boltguns, now that's cool! Imperial fist ones with Tank hunters re-roll armour penetration rolls too, meaning that you might glance some poor AV10 vehicles to death, and with 5s to hit vs Fliers even the odd Ork dakkajet have to watch out..

 Noremac wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Noremac wrote:

 EmilCrane wrote:
Valhallan Strategic Rocket Forces

CCS- Master of Ordnance
12x Deathstrike Missiles

Still can't handle my pure Fenrisian Wolves force.

How many wolf and how tough?

[Using the totally "real" Forgeworld dataslate.]

Fenrisian Wolf Pack
---
500 Fenrisian Wolves.
*At the start of each one of your turns place another 100 Fenrisian Wolves on the table.*

Special Rules:

Hungry Like the Wolf:
All wolves never die and all their weapons are considered Str: D.


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Also, you MUST play "Hungry Like the Wolves" whenever it is your turn, on loop, on max volume. Each time you howl in synchronization with the song you gain 1,000,000 VPs.

Seems legit. Certainly more balanced than 7th edition is going to be

If the opponent was prepared for it it would also be cool to field Abaddon's inner circle of elite black legion warriors.


Abaddon
265

10 Terminators, harbringers of despair (WS, BS5), mark of khorne + banner of rage (rage, counter-attack, reroll charge distance, furious charge), 2x chainfists, 3x power fists, 5 x mauls/axes, 8 x c6mbi-weapons, 2x reaper autocannon, VoTLW
~577

Daemon prince of slaanesh, black mace, power armour, 3x ML (biomancy)
295
10 Terminators, mark of slaanesh (+1I), icon of excess (FnP), 2 x chainfists, 3x power fists, 5 x mauls, 8x combi-weapons, 2x reaper autocannons, VoTLW
~582

~1480

This nice little core block of ~1500pts should be able to punch a nice little hole in the center of.. everything. Which they should be, according to fluff. Add some teleporting 3-man combi-weapon Terminator squads for spearheading, and/or some Chosen squads for backup to take it to 1750/1850.

 westiebestie wrote:
If the opponent was prepared for it it would also be cool to field Abaddon's inner circle of elite black legion warriors.


Abaddon
265

10 Terminators, harbringers of despair, mark of khorne, banner of rage, 2x chainfists, 3x power fists, 5 x mauls/axes, 8 x c6mbi-weapons, 2x reaper autocannon
~547

Daemon prince of slaanesh, black mace, power armour, 3x ML (biomancy)
295
10 Terminators, mark of slaanesh, icon of excess, 2 x chainfists, 3x power fists, 5 x mauls, 8x combi-weapons, 2x reaper autocannons
~552

~1420

This nice little core block of ~ 1420pts should be able to punch a nice little hole in the center of.. everything. Which they should be, according to fluff. Add some teleporting 3-man combi-weapon Terminator squads for spearheading, and some Chosen squads for backup.

The daemon seems a bit out of place.

What would you build for a 3k point game?

With an HH army you can already do a 100 marine bolter army and still have a troop slot left and only cost 1250. Don't move and you have the equivalent of 200 bolters. No need for unbound there. For an extra 250 points you can give each Feel no pain and Intercept, and for an extra 50, you can have them reroll leadership checks. In a 1750 force, that still leaves you the points for a hard as nails commander.

 Kain wrote:

The daemon seems a bit out of place.

What would you build for a 3k point game?

I don't think it's out of place. I can't remember where now, but I recall reading about Abaddon and his legion allying with a powerful daemon prince at one time. If I recall wrongly, it would still make sense that one of his most trusted champions finally were "rewarded" by the gods through a Dark Apotheosis and transformed into a daemon prince..

For 3000 points of the very best of the very most evil, I'd like to field something like this. I don't have the Codex with me, so the points are from my head.

Abaddon
265

10 Terminators, harbringers of despair (WS, BS5), mark of khorne + banner of rage (rage, counter-attack, reroll charge distance, furious charge), 2x chainfists, 3x power fists, 5 x mauls/axes, 8 x c6mbi-weapons, 2x reaper autocannon, VoTLW
~577

Daemon prince of slaanesh, black mace, power armour, 3x ML (biomancy)
295
10 Terminators, mark of slaanesh (+1I), icon of excess (FnP), 2 x chainfists, 3x power fists, 5 x mauls, 8x combi-weapons, 2x reaper autocannons, VoTLW
~582


3 Terminators, 3x combi-melta, 1x chainfist, VoTLW
130

3 Terminators, 3x combi-melta, 1x chainfist, VoTLW
130

3 Terminators, 3x combi-melta, 1x chainfist, VoTLW
130

Hellfist murderpack
5 x Helbrutes, 3x reaper autocannon, 2x plasma cannon, 3x heavy flamers, 2 x thunder hammer
(Champion Brute has Aura of Dark glory)
110+110+120+125+125
590

10 Chosen, VoTLW, 5 flamers
225
Rhino, dirge caster, dozer blade, combi-flamer
55

~2980

 westiebestie wrote:

 Kain wrote:

The daemon seems a bit out of place.

What would you build for a 3k point game?

I don't think it's out of place. I can't remember where now, but I recall reading about Abaddon and his legion allying with a powerful daemon prince at one time. If I recall wrongly, it would still make sense that one of his most trusted champions finally were "rewarded" by the gods through a Dark Apotheosis and transformed into a daemon prince..

For 3000 points of the very best of the very most evil, I'd like to field something like this. I don't have the Codex with me, so the points are from my head.

Abaddon
265

10 Terminators, harbringers of despair (WS, BS5), mark of khorne + banner of rage (rage, counter-attack, reroll charge distance, furious charge), 2x chainfists, 3x power fists, 5 x mauls/axes, 8 x c6mbi-weapons, 2x reaper autocannon, VoTLW
~577

Daemon prince of slaanesh, black mace, power armour, 3x ML (biomancy)
295
10 Terminators, mark of slaanesh (+1I), icon of excess (FnP), 2 x chainfists, 3x power fists, 5 x mauls, 8x combi-weapons, 2x reaper autocannons, VoTLW
~582


3 Terminators, 3x combi-melta, 1x chainfist, VoTLW
130

3 Terminators, 3x combi-melta, 1x chainfist, VoTLW
130

3 Terminators, 3x combi-melta, 1x chainfist, VoTLW
130

Hellfist murderpack
5 x Helbrutes, 3x reaper autocannon, 2x plasma cannon, 3x heavy flamers, 2 x thunder hammer
(Champion Brute has Aura of Dark glory)
110+110+120+125+125
590

10 Chosen, VoTLW, 5 flamers
225
Rhino, dirge caster, dozer blade, combi-flamer
55

~2980

I personally took that quote as meaning that he allied (begrudgingly) with Be'Lakor.

An alliance that will last about as long as it takes for one of them to be in a position to stab the other in the back. But such is the way of Chaos.

 Kain wrote:

 westiebestie wrote:

 Kain wrote:

The daemon seems a bit out of place.

What would you build for a 3k point game?

I don't think it's out of place. I can't remember where now, but I recall reading about Abaddon and his legion allying with a powerful daemon prince at one time. If I recall wrongly, it would still make sense that one of his most trusted champions finally were "rewarded" by the gods through a Dark Apotheosis and transformed into a daemon prince..

I personally took that quote as meaning that he allied (begrudgingly) with Be'Lakor.

An alliance that will last about as long as it takes for one of them to be in a position to stab the other in the back. But such is the way of Chaos.

 westiebestie wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 westiebestie wrote:

 Kain wrote:

The daemon seems a bit out of place.

What would you build for a 3k point game?

I don't think it's out of place. I can't remember where now, but I recall reading about Abaddon and his legion allying with a powerful daemon prince at one time. If I recall wrongly, it would still make sense that one of his most trusted champions finally were "rewarded" by the gods through a Dark Apotheosis and transformed into a daemon prince..

I personally took that quote as meaning that he allied (begrudgingly) with Be'Lakor.

An alliance that will last about as long as it takes for one of them to be in a position to stab the other in the back. But such is the way of Chaos.

Being the champion of all four dark gods operates under highlander rules after all.

Some of these lists from above you could do before "Unbound", while some are just power gaming versus fluffy...

I, for one, and VERY excited about Unbound...and not because I can take an army of Chapter Masters. I can take...

I could always do Deathwatch, using Blood Angels, but now you can take Vanguard Veterans instead of Assault Marines.

Harlequin army like I had in Rogue Trader days...

Ordo Psykana from the Blood Ravens...Librarians and Servitors. Combine them with IG and Inquisitors, and you can have an Explorator joining the Blood Ravens.

Cpatain Shrike with an ALL Assault Marine army behind him...

No power gaming...just fluffy and REALLY old armies....

 CaptainLoken wrote:

I, for one, and VERY excited about Unbound...and not because I can take an army of Chapter Masters.

Outfit a BUNCH of captains and chapter masters with basic tactical wargear and now you really have bolter porn marines. (outfit them all as you would a tactical squad (1 chaptermaster with bolt pistol/power sword or fist maybe and 9 captains, all with bolters, and 1 special weapon)) (actually that sounds like a lot of fun for some reason)

Edit: In fact:
1000 points Bolter porn/ black library marines

Chapter master w/ power sword digital wepaons auspex black templar
Captain with primarchs wrath (made to look like a heavy bolter) Imperial fist
Captain with bolter x 8 imperial fist

1000 on the dot.

 westiebestie wrote:
Dang, the 100 bolter marines-army is growing in its appeal. Whoever is the first to field it, remember to take pictures!

Given that snap fire now will be on BS -2 meaning 5s to hit, and combined with either Ultramarines or Imperial Fists (bolter drill) chapter tactics, it would actually be hilarious to watch them kill some stuff. For example boatloads of Fenrisian wolves or boyz.

Devastator squads without heavy weapons, all boltguns, now that's cool! Imperial fist ones with Tank hunters re-roll armour penetration rolls too, meaning that you might glance some poor AV10 vehicles to death, and with 5s to hit vs Fliers even the odd Ork dakkajet have to watch out..

I thought that was a bogus rumour and snap fire is still -1.

Would love to make a Sisters list of just Repentia all in Land Raiders with loads of Penitent Engines

AM 1st platoon, airborne: 5 Veteran Squads in individual Valkyries with a Company Command squad in a vendetta. Add a regular platoon and maybe another Company command squad to start on table as the ground forces the airborne first platoon are sent in to support and some sentinels for the ground forces(so you do not lose at the end of game turn 1).

SM 10th Company: 1 chaplain, 1 Captain, 100 scouts in both regular scout squads and scout bikers.

SM 1st company: all Vanguard, Sternguard, and Termies.

Black Library CSM (as long as CSM are the main characters):

-Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Chainfist, Lightning Claw [117 pts]
-9x Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Combi-Melta, Lightning Claw [97 pts]
-990 pts.


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BL CSM if they are fighting the IOM, not as the main characters:

-10x Cultists [1000 pts]

-1000 pts.

 Selym wrote:
Black Library CSM (as long as CSM are the main characters):

-Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Chainfist, Lightning Claw [117 pts]
-9x Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Combi-Melta, Lightning Claw [97 pts]
-990 pts.

Your points are off, the first Lord should be 157 pts and the rest of them are 137 pts each. I.e. you have forgotten to pay for the Terminator armour upgrade for all of them.


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Davor wrote:

 westiebestie wrote:
Dang, the 100 bolter marines-army is growing in its appeal. Whoever is the first to field it, remember to take pictures!

Given that snap fire now will be on BS -2 meaning 5s to hit, and combined with either Ultramarines or Imperial Fists (bolter drill) chapter tactics, it would actually be hilarious to watch them kill some stuff. For example boatloads of Fenrisian wolves or boyz.

Devastator squads without heavy weapons, all boltguns, now that's cool! Imperial fist ones with Tank hunters re-roll armour penetration rolls too, meaning that you might glance some poor AV10 vehicles to death, and with 5s to hit vs Fliers even the odd Ork dakkajet have to watch out..

I thought that was a bogus rumour and snap fire is still -1.

I hope you are wrong as that is the rumoured change I'm looking forward to the most..

 westiebestie wrote:

 Selym wrote:
Black Library CSM (as long as CSM are the main characters):

-Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Chainfist, Lightning Claw [117 pts]
-9x Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Combi-Melta, Lightning Claw [97 pts]
-1390 pts.

Your points are off, the first Lord should be 157 pts and the rest of them are 137 pts each. I.e. you have forgotten to pay for the Terminator armour upgrade for all of them.

Damn, good point.

-Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Chainfist, Lightning Claw [157 pts]
-9x Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Combi-Melta, Lightning Claw [137 pts]
-990 pts.

 Selym wrote:

 westiebestie wrote:

 Selym wrote:
Black Library CSM (as long as CSM are the main characters):

-Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Chainfist, Lightning Claw [117 pts]
-9x Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Combi-Melta, Lightning Claw [97 pts]
-1390 pts.

Your points are off, the first Lord should be 157 pts and the rest of them are 137 pts each. I.e. you have forgotten to pay for the Terminator armour upgrade for all of them.

Damn, good point.

-Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Chainfist, Lightning Claw [157 pts]
-9x Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Combi-Melta, Lightning Claw [137 pts]
-990 pts.

Er. Check your math again.
(137 x 9 = 1233)
(157 + 1233 = 1390)

So your total should be 1,390 Points, not 990.

Here's one for World Eaters:
3-4 Landraiders
As many Khorne Berzerkers as you can fit
ALL CHAINAXES. ALL THE TIME.
Extra fluff points if the squads are 8-man.

...oh, and a Helturkey for the lulz.

As has been mentioned before, ALL VANGUARD VETERANS! Blood Angels or Raven Guard. Using heroic intervention they would mess up the opponents army something fierce! Unbeatable I think. Bring a unit of scouts so your not tabled turn 1.
scout sergeant: "Captain, I have located the enemy, and he is UGLY!"
Captain: "Initiating jump pack assault."
Make sure some squads have power fists for taking out vehicles and you could wipe out there entire army without them getting a chance to kill more than a couple of your men.
Not much fun to play against.

 Kavish wrote:
As has been mentioned before, ALL VANGUARD VETERANS! Blood Angels or Raven Guard. Using heroic intervention they would mess up the opponents army something fierce! Unbeatable I think. Bring a unit of scouts so your not tabled turn 1.
scout sergeant: "Captain, I have located the enemy, and he is UGLY!"
Captain: "Initiating jump pack assault."
Make sure some squads have power fists for taking out vehicles and you could wipe out there entire army without them getting a chance to kill more than a couple of your men.
Not much fun to play against.

A unit of scouts will still get tabled turn 1, even 10 in cover.

Last game I had with a buddy of mine i had to stop shooting at the 33% of his army that started on table(he had some flyers too) in order to not table him and let him actually play the game.

 Noremac wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 westiebestie wrote:

 Selym wrote:
Black Library CSM (as long as CSM are the main characters):

-Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Chainfist, Lightning Claw [117 pts]
-9x Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Combi-Melta, Lightning Claw [97 pts]
-1390 pts.

Your points are off, the first Lord should be 157 pts and the rest of them are 137 pts each. I.e. you have forgotten to pay for the Terminator armour upgrade for all of them.

Damn, good point.

-Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Chainfist, Lightning Claw [157 pts]
-9x Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armour, MoN, VotLW, Combi-Melta, Lightning Claw [137 pts]
-990 pts.

Er. Check your math again.
(137 x 9 = 1233)
(157 + 1233 = 1390)

So your total should be 1,390 Points, not 990.

Ah, ffs. I put the corrected total in the wrong place

It's on the original for some reason

No worries, mate!

 Kommissar Kel wrote:

 Kavish wrote:
As has been mentioned before, ALL VANGUARD VETERANS! Blood Angels or Raven Guard. Using heroic intervention they would mess up the opponents army something fierce! Unbeatable I think. Bring a unit of scouts so your not tabled turn 1.
scout sergeant: "Captain, I have located the enemy, and he is UGLY!"
Captain: "Initiating jump pack assault."
Make sure some squads have power fists for taking out vehicles and you could wipe out there entire army without them getting a chance to kill more than a couple of your men.
Not much fun to play against.

A unit of scouts will still get tabled turn 1, even 10 in cover.

Last game I had with a buddy of mine i had to stop shooting at the 33% of his army that started on table(he had some flyers too) in order to not table him and let him actually play the game.

Maybe. Not if they're behind line of sight blocking terrain. Except if you have heaps of artillery.

9 Herald's of Tzeentch LvL 3

9 Units of 14 Horrors

2000 points

45 Power Dice

Magic number nine

Horrors vs. Wolves. Advantage Wolves.
Ha.
But seriously,
Nothing will beat my Fenrisian Wolves. Nothing.

IG fluff lists:
1. IT'S A TRAP: Some 50 Guardsmen, some Aegis, and at least 6 to 8 Deathstrikes. Put 3 in one corner, 3 in the other corner, and 2 in the middle of your deployment zone, all behind cover and Aegis lines.

2. Blitzkrieg: Leman Russ line and flyers.

3. So much heresy: All Primaris and Wyrdvane *cough, cough, SANCTIONED, cough* Psykers. Roll everything on Malefic? (That demon one) powers. Spawn in demons, become demons, or just have your heads explode because demon.

4. I think this could actually be done legally, but with the Outflank warlord trait, outflank a platoon of 50 guardsmen, 3 executioners/punishers/demos, and a Baneblade.
"Sir, we have a visual on the enemy!'
"What've they brought?"
"There's... just... one Chimera. Wait, someone's coming out the top hatch. Why is he smiling--?"
*Heavy rumbling from all sides ensues*

Can't beat my wolves.

 Noremac wrote:
Can't beat my wolves.

Tell that to the Psykers making demons that hit you with demons and the Psykers are throwing demons at you and spontaneously becoming demons and being killed by demons simultaneously, because demon.