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A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/09 22:32:58


Post by: monkeytroll


Welcome back, glad you had fun meeting people, then bashing them with sharp metal implements - nothing like it to break the ice
And to be honest Chinese is something I've considered several times, Cantonese and Mandarin

Ouch, lot of work there, good luck with that, I'm sure you'll get through a fair bit of it though Just don't go trawling through the forums and galleries


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/10 06:19:08


Post by: Arakasi


Good luck! I was wincing though the Elites section (in terms of needing to complete).


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/10 10:40:49


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


You can do it Khaine!

Now get painting!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/11 21:43:07


Post by: CommissarKhaine


nurgles_warrior: Thanks; paint will have to wait till everything is built for the tourney - maybe in september

Heffling: I wish I had this much confidence in me!

monkeytroll: it sure was fun - foam weapons only though, with the way some people swing'em in a 4000-man battle that's dangerous enough already.... Oddly enough, reenactment always seems safer than LARPing .

Arakasi: Yep, the elites are hell. Today, I've managed to finish thirty-two bits of tube + greenstuff for the 4 burnagrots, and I've built a lootagrot with a looted Tau drone - he'll go with the servitors. I would've gotten more done, but the bathroom seems to be cursed, so after an afternoon of exorcism I'm bringing in an inqui - I mean plumber

Vitruvian XVII: Thank you! Building first though

So no pics today guys, since the bathroom decided to break down on me, and I was too stubborn to call the plumber straight away. Pics tommorrow, I promise!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/11 23:18:25


Post by: Arakasi


CommissarKhaine wrote:nurgles_warrior: Thanks; paint will have to wait till everything is built for the tourney - maybe in september


Ah, I have fond memories of saying something very similar It's a great feeling though - finishing the modelling... of course, I think you will be 500pts ahead of me...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/12 18:40:33


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Arakasi wrote:
CommissarKhaine wrote:nurgles_warrior: Thanks; paint will have to wait till everything is built for the tourney - maybe in september


Ah, I have fond memories of saying something very similar It's a great feeling though - finishing the modelling... of course, I think you will be 500pts ahead of me...



Shhh... I'm still trying to fool myself. Especially since the wife got me a stompa that's still in the box - highly unnatural for me. I guess september will be stompa-month

The main problem I have, is that the modelling is never finsihed. I have ideas for an additional battlewagon, I want the stompa to walk, I've got a cool idea for stormboyz,.... modeller's ADD I guess!

Commissar Agro: Thanks, I'll need it!

So, small piccie update: here are some WIP pics of 4 more lootas. Just the basic shapes, lots of gs and frilly stuff to be added. If I can get these finished tomorrow, the goals are looking a bit more attainable. I have a bachelor party this weekend, so I won't be getting much grot stuff done. The sacrifices we have to make...





The grot on the left has a looted Tau drone going out of control; he'll have a (probably damaged) remote on the ground next to him once finished. The two middle ones are AdMech servitors, with the track unit salvaged from a kinder egg toy . The one the right is just a basic looted Tau drone, i need a few models to be more or less sane to show what they're meant to represent. the walking servitor still needs a handler.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/12 21:00:17


Post by: monkeytroll


CommissarKhaine wrote:

I have ideas for an additional battlewagon, I want to stompa to walk, I've got a cool idea for stormboyz,.... modeller's ADD I guess!



Now when I said something along those lines I'm sure you told me it wasn't ADD, we just love everything

Hmm, takes me long enough to paint as is, if I waited till all the modelling was 'done' I'd have nothing but a sea of grey in my work-room...oh, wait a minute..I do...

Anyway, looking good, love the runaway drone

edited for spelling



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/13 01:16:16


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


I think you could pull of the mayor part of the army before the deadline, depends on how fast you can build everything really. But I got faith in you Khaine, keep fighting


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/13 01:52:06


Post by: MajorTom11


Your a freakin machine my friend! Grots are all looking top notch as usual. Any luck with the weathering powders yet?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/13 18:10:49


Post by: CommissarKhaine


monkeytroll: I know... And I do love everything! . I'll be painting before everything's built, but I need the models ready for the tourney. I've even vowed no to start on my stompa till after the 29th, just tourney stuff...

Rose_Mountainz: yes I can (I think), I just want it to look good!

MajorTom11: Thanks! I didn't even order the weathering powders yet, everything's on hold till I've built the grots to 1750. First Maelstrom order after those!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/13 19:14:34


Post by: Commander Cain


These are incredible conversions! Keep it up...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/14 11:11:56


Post by: Dysartes


C'mon, CK, you can do it!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/24 19:32:20


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Commander Cain: Thanks man!

Dysartes: I actually might make it with all the modelling, which would be pretty nice

So, a busy two weeks. As always, when you want to focus on modelling, bad stuff happens: budget meetings, PCs breaking down,... Let's just say I've had a busy few weeks

Luckily, I managed to get some work done, toiling till late in the evening, and all I need to do now is 1 lootagrot and 3 burnagrots. The end is near- aand so is the deadline

Piccies:

Fisrt up, two pics of my second loota unit. I decided to go a bit crazy and based them on movie characters. Not all the pics worked out,

But here are two. See if you can figure out who they're based on:





I also finished all the basic grots. Only one pic worked out, so the other pic will be for later on:



And a very small buggy (based on the regular buggy- which only shows I may have gone a tad overboard on mine )





And yes, that's a grot with a rokkit launcher in the back!

Burnagrot n°7, and some WIP shots of the last 3:





That's all for today folks, I hope to get all 3 burnagrots and the last loota finished (he'll be Chuck Norris ), and if everything works out fine I'll post a group shot before the team tourney!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/24 19:48:40


Post by: MajorTom11


Plastirod + Khaine = happy Tommy


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/24 19:56:09


Post by: Commander Cain


I would be one happy grot to have all that shooty stuff!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/28 07:24:56


Post by: CommissarKhaine


MajorTom11: It is relaxing in a strange roundabout way when you glue your fingers otgether

Commander Cain: So are they

To prove I'll (probably) make all the construction (painting is hopeless-family stuff today):



The last 3 burnagrots are not 100% finished, but they've been brought to a state of 'playable; I'll probably revisit them after the tourney and when my supplies of plastirod and guitar wire are back up. One lootagrot, and the construction is finished! I'll try and post an army pic somewhere today, if time allows it.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/28 11:22:31


Post by: monkeytroll


Meknificent as always


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/28 11:32:46


Post by: Llamahead


Good luck mate deadlines are always good for this type of project as they force you to focus and actually finish a force......Those burnas look great and I'm delighted by the Servitors. Great Idea where did the tracks for that unit come from?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/28 19:30:58


Post by: The Good Green


Looking good!

I can't believe I haven't commented on the lootas yet! They look amazing. I love all the looted tau stuff and the servitor. I'm thinking Rambo and Mr. T for the two newest ones, eh?

The new burnas are looking exceptionally good as well. I especially like the mad doc looking one on the right.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/30 17:46:45


Post by: CommissarKhaine


monkeytroll: Thanks!

Llamahead: Luck didn't help out, my cat dropped two burnagrots the day before the tourney, but I still got it finished . The tracks on the servitor are from a kinder egg toy, it was part of a digging machine that got looted without mercy.

The Good Green: Thanks! You're right about the new guys, I have Grotter Harley (from Hot Shots part deux) in there as well, then Chuck Norris, and now I used a generic snipergrot as loota n°5. I've been thinking about doing the whole A-team, but there's only four of'em... And then they'd need a looted wagon! Glad you like the new burnas, some of the plasticard work is a bit sloppier then I would've liked, buit nothing a bit of gs can't fix. The mad dok one is real easy to make, you just glue two thin slices of plastic rod over the grot' eyes, and presto, mad dok!

I had an absolute blast at the team tournament, our team placing 6th out of a total of fourteen teams, and my friend Sam taking the price for best painted army. Not bad, considering we only had three players where most teams were 4-6 strong... You assigned three players of each team to be scoring each round, and some teams had built certain lists around the scenarios - we didn't have that luxury. Still, it was great, and I met a lot of nice people and got lots of cool comments on the grots. Here's where they stood the morning of the tourney:



Now, some short batreps, without pics sadly as I forgot to take the camera along :(

The grot revolution (1750) consisted of:

Warboss, mega armour, bosspole, bionik body

Big Mek, KFF, power klaw

2x 5 lootas

10 burnagrots in a battlewagon with two big shootas, boarding plank, defrolla

5 meganobz (two kombi-rokkits, 1 kombi-skorcha), riding a battlewagon with two big shootas, boarding plank, defrolla

29 grots + 2 kommissars

2 x 18 grots + kommissar

2 deffkoptas, both with a buzzsaw, one with big shootas and the other with rokkits

3 rokkit buggies (1 track)

2 x 3 kans, one with rokkits, one with grotzookas


Round 1

I started off the day against a nice chap called Kevin, who played Eldar. He had an avatar, a seer council on foot, lots of dire avengers and guardians, two vypers, a unit of harlies, 5 wraithguard, a falcon and a waveserpent. The mission meant there was an objective in each table quarter. Deployment was spearhead. The table had a bunch of rock formations, with a large formation in the centre blocking LOS. My opponent took first turn, and deployed in a crescent , poised for a two-pronged assault. I deployed with a very strong centre with the two battlewagons close to the middle, and then kans on each flank,with the grots in support ( a wraithlord with only 3 attacks doesn't like grabba sticks). The lootas were on my left flank, screened by grots and with a nice view on his vypers and waveserpent. My deffkoptas outflanked.

In turn one, Kevin advanced cautiously, looking for weak points in my line. Since, Ironically, I had more long-range firepower, I was happy to start off by moving slowly forward and taking pot shots, resulting in an immobilised wave serpent and a destroyed viper. His shooting was very poor, missing a lot despite being twin-linked. In his first two turns he killed 5 grots and a buggy with shooting... I then moved one unit of kans forward as a bait for his wraithlord and seer council, which he duly fell for. Three kans took down two warlocks, and in my turn my grots charged the wraithlord together with my disembarking meganobz, while my other grot unit took out the seer council with shooting (admittedly, with some help from lootas, the rokkit buggies and the shootas on the battlewagon, but the grots did the last wound on the farseer ). my other battlewagon tank shocked his harlies so they bunched up nicely, then the burnagrots disembarked and flamed them, the battlewagon blocking LOS to them from the vengeful Eldar. Turn 3 had my deffkoptas eating his falcon, and my meganobz and burnagrots re-embarking and moving full speed towards his remaining flank, with supporting fire from the lootas. He didn't have much that could hurt the BWs at this point, so I deffrolla-ed him, flamed him, and charged him with the megagrots. it was a wipeout by turn 5. Never managed it with my 'competitive' guard, but my fun and fluffy grots, however, proved quite dangerous!

Round 2

Eldar again; splendid; and controlled by Yves. Yves is a very nice guy with a beautifully painted and converted harlequin-themed list. He's also the guy who didn't lose a single battle in the European Team Championship - so I suspected I'd be in for a thorough pounding. His list consisted of two 9-strong bike councils, 3 units of dire avengers in two waveserpents and a falcon, and three troop jetbikes. The misison meant you had to get units in the opposing deployment zone (yep, stolen from 'Ard boyz), with dawn of war deployment. I figured that in this battle, that I'd just have to make him work hard to get units, hopefully allowing me to reach the other side with enough units. Taking down two seer councils wasn't going to happen, since they can eat my kans for breakfast anyday.

He took first turn and started killing off my grot units, with me deffrolla-ing one waveserpent and flaming the dire avengers stumbling out. Sadly, to do so I had disembarked from the BW, figuring he wouldn't risk charging the seer council into a forest. Four destructors later, however, he didn't need to enter the forest anymore. Scratch one of my only hopes of hurting the seer council. The battle then consisted of me deffrolla-ing what I could touch with the now-empty burnagrot's ride, which still had a big mek in there attempting to board wave serpents , and him eating all my kans and grots with the seer council and bladestorming dire avengers (hop out, bladestorm, hop back in,... you know the drill), then mopping up the lootas. This however, had left me enough time to get into his deployment zone with enough units. We also had our commanders near the centre (secondary objective), so it was a draw. I felt I got off lightly there, since I had nothing that could touch the council reliably. Not to mention Yves' splenid luck with them: Where 3 exploding kans took out 2 warlocks in round 1, here I did 50 wounds or so and only two died during the whole battle. lootas, rokkits, grotzookas, exploding kans... Nothing could touch theml!


Round 3

My third and final round was against a really nice guy named Tristan, using a kan wall: warboss with diversified nobz, 3 big boyz units, a unit of gretchin, a big mek with KFF, 3 deffkoptas w/rokkits, 3 units of kans and a deff dread with 4 ccws. The mission meant you had to capture buildings and objectives, with pitched battle deployment. He won and chose to go first (I didn't win a single roll, but all my opponents decided to go first), deploying his army in a tight bunch around his big mek, with one unit on a flank going for an objective and his grots camping in a building near his table-edge. I deployed my kans in the centre with my buggies, my lootas and two units of grots on my right to create a feel of 'heaviness', filling that table side. I then placed both BWs together on my left flank, hoping to use the boarding planks to kill the deff dread and kans deployed there so I could break through.

My plan worked, with my opponent advancing in the centre, aided immeasurably by his KFF, deflecting pretty much all shots. I deffrolla-ed his kans, killing one unit almost ouright, and drive-by-punching his dread with an immobilised result. My meganobz +warboss took down his warboss + retinue, and then I just started flaming his orks, while my kans and buggies held the centre long enough for my left flank to come rescue them. My opponent gave up at the start of turn 5, since I was poised to wipe him out anyway. Don't let this fool you though: if he had broken through in the centre, or if his nobz would've won (he only had 3 PKs so I figured I'd be okay), the battle could've swung in a very different direction...

So, the traditional army evaluation:

Warboss, mega armour, bosspole, bionik body: A: He does what he's meant to do, has a lot of staying power, and S10.

Big Mek, KFF, power klaw: A: the KFF is a bit random, but his PK means he can safely stay aboard the battlewagon and throw S9 punches at vehicles

lootas: B- : not very reliably due to the d3 shots and BS2. I'm considering one big unit, but that'll make them even more luck dependent. Since I have a lot of units in my opponent's face, they usually ignore the small units anyway.

10 burnagrots in a battlewagon with two big shootas, boarding plank, defrolla: A+: splendid. They scored 81 hits at one point, always cause lots of wounds, and can overload anything due to weight of fire.

5 megagrots (two kombi-rokkits, 1 kombi-skorcha), riding a battlewagon with two big shootas, boarding plank, defrolla: B+ reliable, hard to kill,... but not as much options ansd the guys without mega armour. I'd love a Waagh banner in there...

The battlewagons: A They did what they were meant to do, and are brutally effective vs vehicles, especially with PKs aboard; even skimmers are less happy to stay in place, since a 3+ doesn't mean they're 100% safe.

29 grots + 2 kommissars: C: they did ok, but two smaller units would be just as good.

18 grots + kommissar: B: cheap and cheerful, and a decent amount of staying power with 19 wounds and a 3+ cover save when going to ground

deffkoptas: B+: always handy, and force the opponent to take them into consideration- makes them pretty good.

rokkit buggies : cheap and cheerful, a recurring them in a grot army. Less mobile then the koptas, but still decent adn a bit more survivable.

Killa kans: B+: they shoot mor eor less OK, and have S10 in close combat. High I High S attacks will ruin their day, however, as demonstrated twice by the seer councils.

So in conclusion: a nice day with friends, good food, a good venue, fun people to play against, and lots of compliment son my army: I'll be going back next year!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/30 21:26:44


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


That was a nice read thank you for that and glad your army workt out pretty good!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/31 08:16:44


Post by: Arakasi


Congrats - on a good day if nothing else What was your final rating on the Rokkit Buggies?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/08/31 19:50:25


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Rose_Mountainz: Glad you liked the read! I'm also pretty happy with how the army worked out; I was a abit afraid of how I would do with 'softer' units, but in the end the grots turend out to be everything but soft : target overload + a few hard to kill units are a vicious combo!

Arakasi: Thanks! The rating on the buggies should be a B. They don't do much damage, but block a lot of LOS and movement, can easily contest, and are a tad harder to kill then the koptas. And in the end, the threat of 3 rokkits does mean they more attention then I expected considering the other targets in the army. I figure people will go for an easy kill first and take out the buggies, but that does mean that my battlewagons remain unscathed. I mean, the ork player shot his shootas at my buggies instead of my grotz...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Small(ish) Update: the calcaulation of the winners was wrong at the end of the tourney, or team came in third instead of sixth, and I placed in the fourth spot individually


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/09/01 11:52:25


Post by: Panic


yeah,
CommissarKhaine wrote: target overload ...
^^^ That's were it's at! good tourny report.

CommissarKhaine wrote: rokkit buggies : cheap and cheerful, a recurring them in a grot army. Less mobile then the koptas, but still decent adn a bit more survivable.
I think I much prefer the TL rocket buggies. they waste soo much enemy fire for a cheap 100pt unit of three. If ignored they will earn more than their points back in a game. And with AP3 they are very good at killing MEQ and taking the bite out of squads like devestators or assault marines. It's true they survive most small arms fire and I've had them assaulted by a whole squad of genestealers/AssaultMarines only to suffered a few shaken results and then toddle off again.. Koptas get stuck in combat, will die to most things.

I'm planning a BattleWagon for my MEK at some point... and yours seemed to do quiet well above.
For my army It'll make the KFF radius go so much wider. Plus my current KFF delivery system is MegaGrots and they are slowing the MEK down.
and if the MEk squad rolls low for his movement and the kans score a 6" run they are in danger of leaving the KFF radius.. sadtimes.

Panic...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/09/01 17:05:02


Post by: Young_Logan


Looking better everytime i come on here, looking forward to the impossible being done good luck


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/09/01 20:54:37


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Panic: Target overload always works a treat. even more so in this army, since I have quite some redundancy in slightly different forms, making target priority pretty hard for my opponents. The three guys I played weren't slouches, and they all admitted that they made mistakes because 1) there's a lot of variety and 2) they're used to differnent kinds of ork armies, which means they react in les soptimal ways.

As for the rokkit buggies vs buzzsawkopta debate: it comes down to what you need in your army as a whole. I have a lot of survivability in my two BWs, so I don't need more hard to kill units (which a unit of buggies is if you want to fully neutralize it). Thanks to outflanking, koptas also have decent survivability as long as they attack vehicles- not to mention that if I have first turn, I can kill/immobilize two transports pretty reliably, which means my opponent has to take them into account. To me, they add stuff the buggies can't. In your army of course, the buggies add speed, AP3 and side armour shots, which I need less since I have deffrollas and burnagrotz. Not to mention koptas have hit and run, so getting stuck in combats doesn't have to be for long. In the end, I like'em both, but I feel two koptas add more to my army then two buggy units.


As for the WBs: they do great if you take two; I've even thought about adding a third, but I'm not prepared to sacrifice my two kan units. I only took one in a few test games, which made it a huge target. Having two means that, unless your topponent has lots of firepower he'll go for easier targets suchs as the kans. The MANZ in the battlewagon are a lot better then on foot, especially with a boarding plank. They're safe from plasma and S8+, can board vehicles, and have a huge charge range, especially when calling the waagh!!. Same for the KFF Mek: his KFF radius is huge all of a sudden, and thanks to his PK he makes the BW dangerous even if ramming is not a good option (dreads with meltagun, anyone?). Even skimmers are a bit more cautious when you can throw S9 punches around if they make their 3+ save vs ramming .

Young_Logan: thanks! Just wait till I find a walking robot toy that fits inside a stompa, then you'll see the impossible!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/09/01 21:42:48


Post by: Llamahead


Well done at the tournament now you can get on with the Stormboyz!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/09/01 22:27:23


Post by: monkeytroll


CommissarKhaine wrote:Young_Logan: thanks! Just wait till I find a walking robot toy that fits inside a stompa, then you'll see the impossible!


Remote controlled stompas? Oh yeah.

http://www.firebox.com/product/2521/Choro-Robo-Q?via=cat
could fit in a meganob

Actually, knowing you it was probably fully autonomous robots you were thinking of


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/09/01 23:09:58


Post by: Arakasi


CommissarKhaine wrote:Not to mention koptas have hit and run, so getting stuck in combats doesn't have to be for long.


At initiative 2, hit and run is a nice bonus *if* you pull it off Felt sorry for my last Ork opponent - who I actually managed three hit and runs (two in the same combat!) in the one game...



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/09/02 07:36:24


Post by: HadoukenAvenger


Arakasi, we have a urgent mission for you,
It's all detailed in one of the posts here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/314332.page#1886147

We can't do it without your help!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/09/02 17:08:24


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Llamahead: Thanks! The stormboyz will have to wait abit I'm afraid. First, it's painting all my stuff, and the stompa will be eating some time as well. Maybe once I have the core finished- by then it's a new codex and the stormboyz will rock!

monkeytroll: If they were strong enough, that would be great, but I doubt it / Remote controlled meganobs; now... maybe . As for the stompa: I'd love if the arms or head could move, but my knowledge of electronics is nonexistant, so... we'll see how crazy I get

Arakasi: the option is there, even if the chances are slim . Since I've had grots take down a farseer, I feel anything is possible!





A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/09 15:58:37


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Hey guys,

It's been a while since I managed an update. Lots of work related stuff has been attacking my painting time, and while I've been messing about I didn't really get anything finished till now. Today however, I finally managed to finish my 5th megagrot, giving me a nice playable unit (I can't squeeze more then 5 megagrots in most of my army lists, so this unit will count as complete for now).

Since I fninally ordered me some weathering powders (thanks MajorTom11!), I figured I'd experiment a bit with those. I like the effects, but judge for yourself:





I used the powders for all the weathering except the metal showing through, and I definitely like the gritty feel it gives and the texture it adds to the model. Expect to see more powders applied!

A comparison shot with another megagrot:



Let me know what you think of it!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/09 16:41:12


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Looking great dude! The powders certanly breaks up all the orange. And also, nice to see you posting stuff again


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/09 16:46:49


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


How are you sealing the powders Khaine?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/09 16:59:34


Post by: monkeytroll


Nice job CK. Certainly looks a bit more beaten and weathered than the others, and I agree that powders give some lovely texture to minis and are fun to experiment with. Good to see you again too.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/09 17:00:41


Post by: MajorTom11


Powders! Yay!

Lol, great start dude! The trick with powders is, to focus them on heavy use spots, Gun barrels and exhausts get black, and a generous amount of it, and some lighter colors can dust the feet, showing the guy has actually been running around the environment!

I think it was definitely a good move, hope you like it???


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/09 22:35:30


Post by: Arakasi


Welcome back! Weathering is looking good - in fact, seems to be popping up a bit in a couple of threads I'm following... I wonder if its a sign? I did just get the FW set last week... Keep sharing your experiences! We all appreciate it!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/09 22:52:11


Post by: Gitsplitta


Fantastic work Khaine, good to have you posting again!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/10 05:43:02


Post by: Commissar Agro


I love the lastest mega grot, nice weathering and its good to have you back amoung the faithfull...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/10 18:24:56


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Wow, lots of replies. I was feeling a bit burnt out on the little guys, but this kind of support got my motivation right back up

Rose_Mountainz: Thank you! The powders sure help to add a different splash of colour; perfect for battle damage IMO. I've been tinkering here and there, so hopefully I'll be bringing updates on a more regular basis from now on.

Vitruvian XVI: matte varnish from vallejo. it did smudge the powder a little, so I'm open for suggestions concerning sealing.

monkeytroll: Thanks! I'm considering going backl on all my megagrotz and vehicle, but I'm going to experiment a bit more first before taking the leap. It's good to be back!

MajorTom11: Thanks . I agree about focusing, but the black powder from vallejo really looks like a weapon impact, so chances are I'll be using it for that as well. I only have rust, black, and a brownish one right now, but I'll be expanding my supply- they're too handy not to. In definitely feel it was a good move, the weathering powders add another layer of depth to the model; I just need to get me some good tutorials to learn how to use them for maximum effect. Thanks for the nudge!

Arakasi: Thank you! Let me know how the FW ones are holding up. I got the Vallejo powders, but I can't really compare. I do believe though that Vallejo gives a modeller some very interesting options due to their different approach to painting then GW. As I use them a bit more, I'll keep you all informed!

Gitsplitta: Thanks! I've been lurking for the last month or so, but it just isn't the same. I get a lot more satisfaction out of posting, it's just more active. If rl allows it, it's back to being an active poster

Commissar Agro: Glad you like him! My faith has been tested a bit, but the revolution needs me! Hasta la victoria siempre!

All this being said (well, typed), I'm going to leave you with a classic model (squig catapult crewmember IIRC), painted to match my other grots. If I ever get lobbas, he'll get promoted to lobba crew, otherwise he'll just be regular grot number 31.




A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/10 19:18:04


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Hehe, the little guy looks cool!

I was kinda hoping you could give me some tips on sealing actually! Ive been experimenting wit the FW powders, very messy but extremely fun! I had to varnish the models to stop the powders rubbing off, but it seemed to dissolve them. bit of a let down really :(

Keep up the great work!!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/10 21:59:07


Post by: Gitsplitta


Love that figure... and just a great paint job for him too! Grotz are just so entertaining, that they really are a treat when someone takes the time to do them well.

Gits


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/10 23:25:52


Post by: MajorTom11


Don't be afraid to slop the black onto the barrels! Trust me, if its built up a bit it works even better. Another trick, take the dark brown and black pigments, mix it with thinner or water til it is very very liquid muddy, and use it is to dribble oil streaks from the joints and seams here and there, make sure it is quite thin though.

Glad you like it, its definitely a useful technique to add an extra layer of texture and realism! I recommend you look at youtube for weathering techniques, there is some crazy stuff on there by military modelers that is very inspiring and interesting. I learned a ton! I just wish I wasn't only on tech bases for now with the SpaceHulk stuff so I could use more then 10% of what I learned this year!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/11 17:56:40


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Vitruvian XVII: And here I was hoiping you could help me out . Did you use brush-on or spray-on varnish?

Gitsplitta: Gotta love those old grots... I'll addit the newer ones have more details and a lot of character, but the old guys do have a certain mischieveous quality to them that the newers ones seem to be missing.

MajorTom11: Time to check out youtube methinks I still have the old inks which are great for oil spills and such, but I'll be sure to give them a try! The powders add on in avery natural way, which is great for me: toss it on and let physics do its job! And as for the tech bases: time to start an additional project I guess!

Now, onto another mini. This time, it's kommissar numba 4 that got finished; I still need to add a squig, but I couldn't resisit showing him off . The coat and the gun had weathering powders applied to them. The camera made it look grittier then it is, but the lighting is pretty bad so I'm gonna blame that .





And a comparison shot with his inspiration:





And with that I'm off. Hope you guys like him!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/11 18:03:48


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Lol, thats awesome! Especially the Orky parody of the commissar. They look great next to each other!

I used the GW purity seal, may have been that some of the powder blew off, im not sure though. I fixed em with white spirits, what do you use?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/11 18:51:27


Post by: The Good Green


Nice. I love the old grot. Definitely from the Squig catapult. He's got a jar of the "Buzzing Squigs". THey eat everything except ork flesh!

Good thing to have on hand... for an ork anyhow.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/11 21:15:09


Post by: monkeytroll


Lovely grot commissar there Commissar, and love the comparison shot
I've had some success with sealing powders with a very light dusting of purity seal from a distance, dry and repaet, but have found that different techniques tend to vary in their reaction to varnish - although I can't rule out different levels of cack-handedness when applying the spray obviously I know a lot of military modellers aplly after sealing and mix the powder with methylated spirirts which seems to have a bit of a fixative effect as it evaporates. I'm thinking of experimenting with applying some whilst the varnish is still wet and see what effect is produced.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/11 21:23:13


Post by: Gitsplitta


Too fun CK... gotta love that... especially with the side-by-side shot.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/11 22:43:10


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


You could make a diorama with the two commissars trying to pose each other to death


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/12 04:56:08


Post by: Commissar Agro


This kommissar is my favourite one so far. Your work just keeps getting better and better!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/12 10:19:39


Post by: Arakasi


I love taking inspiration from elsewhere and twisting (Orkifying?) it - so I love the parallel - well done, good job! The commissar doesn't have the shoulder detail though - and looking at them side by side, I think the grot could have used pants. But this is just the nitpicking of an idle mind As you were!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/12 17:11:39


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Vitruvian XVII: Glad you like'em . I sealed mine with vallejo matte varnish (paint-on), which is good for sooty effect but takes aways some grittiness.

The Good Green: Thanks for the confirmation. I recall buzzer squigs eating a terminator librarian in an old WD batrep

monkeytroll: Thank you! I don't like using spray varnish because it always leaves a bit of a shine, but maybe I should give it a go. I model in a small room, so methylated stuff is out of the question, especially with a small child around. Let us know how the varnish experiment works out though, sounds interesting!

Gitsplitta: Grots = fun . I need to make a kommissar with a book as well; that will be my next project!

Rose_Mountainz: Maybe with the two kommissars holding a contest to see who can make the most headshots?

Commissar Agro: Thanks! I like them all, but they they're like children to me. Mischieveous, vicious, sadistic children, but children nonetheless

Arakasi: Yep, nothing beats lootin' . My guy has more coat detail then the IG one, but that's just to draw the attention away from the crappy gs job . Oh, and the grot is wearing pants; they're green, but a different green then his face and hands...Mayber I should add a camo pattern?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/12 17:16:43


Post by: Arakasi


Ah - I just assumed it was bare legs because it was a Grot and not in the same tan colour as the Commissar. I can remember the last time I was in the hobby trying to do black and green camo on Kommandos - never did look right - and was my greatest fear doing Da Dark Angelz (apparently I managed to avoid the issue this time...)


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/17 16:00:24


Post by: moonshine


Rose_Mountainz wrote:You could make a diorama with the two commissars trying to pose each other to death

that would be lol and would remind me of zoolander where the models out pose eachother

anyway i love the mega grots and the commisar btw does anyone know where i can buy plastic card form ?

btw hope ya don't mind but that battlesuit inspired me to make one of my own . cheers for the insporation


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/21 17:08:58


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Oops missed out on a few replies apparently:

Arakasi: Brown might be an option, but I didn't want to draw attention to the rather crappy sculptjob wiht bright colours, hence the dark green

Moonshine: didn't see zoolander, but I just might have to do something with those two. Plasticard can be found online or in most modelling shops.

Now, a very minor update: two more converted grots . I'm basecoating the second battlewagon right now, and that's eating a lot of time, so few things getting finished... Just these two, enioy!



As you can see I messed around a bit with the weathering powders, bit for smaller areas of rust I figure I'll combine paint with powders. Still, easy and quick to use, so I like the powders!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/21 17:11:46


Post by: Gitsplitta


They do provide some neat effects. My problem is that they largely disappear when you dullcoat the figures. Haven't sorted that out yet, but there must be an answer.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/22 07:50:56


Post by: Finch Claw


There's always a way.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/22 21:35:53


Post by: moonshine


i love the poses on them especially the modified gun


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/23 13:15:33


Post by: Element206


awesome work


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/10/24 14:52:20


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: I've been thinking about using hairspray to fixate the powders first. I'll let you know how it turns out after a few experiments!

Finch Claw: if you know a way, sharing it would be nice

moonshine: thank you! The gun uses the grenade-holding had as a base, with gun bits put around it. Quick and easy

Element206: Thanks!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/04 10:24:05


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Hey guys,

I's been a bit quiet on the posting front due to work (as always) and the fact that the bits I had finished weren't all that interesting. It doies mean however that now I've got quite some stuff almost ready.

One of the things I've been working on is my second battlewagon, which i got the the 'orange done' part, which is -by far- the most tedious bit. From now on it's adding lots of detailing, graffiti and weathering. At this rate, a month or two .

Here are some pics:









And an idea of what the enemy will be seeing - now imagine five megagrots and the warboss stomping out of this



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/04 11:31:29


Post by: Gitsplitta


It's the LST of Battlewagons! Love it!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/04 12:58:42


Post by: MajorTom11


Looks awesome dude! How's it going long time no see!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/04 13:26:46


Post by: Some_Call_Me_Tim?


The expression on the Megagrots face is priceless! Very cool stuff!

_Tim?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/04 13:27:15


Post by: Newt-Of-Death


That is seriously AMAZING!!!!! I love the grot army idea and I love the orange paint jobs. Seriously good.

Have you come to many conclusions on rules yet or are you just using them as orks or are there already rules for grot armies?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/04 14:26:11


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Nice to see that's you're still alive Khaine and your orange is as good as always!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/04 18:50:55


Post by: monkeytroll


So, been spending some quality time with orange paints recently then ?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/04 22:39:42


Post by: neil101


Great army commisar ! you captured the feel of the gretchin/snotling army perfectly, cheeky little rascals.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/05 11:21:30


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Thank you! The battlewagon does have an amphibious feel to it; maybe I should add propellers

MajorTom11: Thanks a lot . Both the wife and me have been very busy with our jobs and kid, so... Less modelling time I'm afraid. But we're doing fine

Some_Call_Me_Tim?: It's my favourite grot head for that very reason!

Newt-Of-Death: Thanks, glad you still like the army . For rules they use the ork army book (mainly because I already own an IG army), with ork unit srperesented by grots in suits: the guy on the battlewagon is a counts-as-meganob, and I've got guys in exo suits who count as flamers. There's an army list floating around somewhere in the thread (and in the army lists section, oddly enough ) if you want an idea of what I'm using.

Rose_Mountainz: I'm hard to get rid off . Glad you like it!

moonshine: thanks!

monkeytroll: They insisted

neil101: Thank you!

Now onto some more pics: the battlewagon didn't get much work done, but I did manage to finish of my 2nd killa kan (four more to go - sigh...). Here he is:







Enjoy! Next up will (hopefully) be some more BW pics, maybe a deffkopta, and some regular grots!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/05 12:56:34


Post by: Gitsplitta


Looks great Khaine! Love the little blue flame detail on the gun... those little blue touches really stand out with the orange.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/05 13:51:06


Post by: Dysartes


Nice work on the Kan, CK.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/05 17:19:02


Post by: moonshine


looking awesome. i love the kans


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/07 15:53:52


Post by: Arakasi


Very very orange Wish I was progressing as fast!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/08 15:22:57


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: thanks! The combination was stolen from George Dellapina's speed freak army, which was featured in and old WD.

Dysartes: Thanks!

moonshine: thanks you!

Arakasi: yep, very orange . And progressing fast is relative: the damn kan had been on my desk for over two monthes, so it was about time I'd finish it...

I've blacked out all the detail on the battlewagon, but since that's not a very interesting stage, I'll be posting pics one the detail is coming together. I managed to finish off a few more grots though, giving me a grand total of 33 painted grots... *le sigh*. Still, most of my 1850 armies only include 60 grots or so, so I'm getting there

Piccies:




The one on the left got a tattoo because I messed up and had a drop of paint fall on his shoulder . I'll be thinning my highlight mix a bit more for the next batch since these came out a tad gritty.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/08 15:35:32


Post by: Gitsplitta


I like the tat... you almost never see people put them on orks. And an old friend of mine who is a master jeweler told me that it's now how well you can make something, it's how well you can turn a screw-up into looking like something that was done on purpose that really separates the pros from talented amateurs.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/08 16:33:15


Post by: moonshine


Ooh i really love those grots but whats up with that green thing behind the end of the second grits blasta or is it just me ?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/08 20:53:04


Post by: Anung Un Rama


The tank looks great! An assault ramp is exactly what the current Ork tanks lack.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/08 22:22:49


Post by: Atre


Gitsplitta wrote:I like the tat... you almost never see people put them on orks. And an old friend of mine who is a master jeweler told me that it's now how well you can make something, it's how well you can turn a screw-up into looking like something that was done on purpose that really separates the pros from talented amateurs.

Love it, although I think your friend is quite the cynic .

Seen some excellent craftsmen in my time, one thing I noticed is real pros don't need to measure anything. Watching a specialised window/glass pane maker take a strip of wood & casually slice it through a few times then rearrange into a perfect octagon with zero gaps and perfect symmetry is reeeaaally impressive.

Though I like your rule too.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/09 07:11:53


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: I think you don't see many tattoos on greenskins becasue a) it adds an additional level of detail when you have to paint a horde and b) it's not always easy to fix skin. I agree with your buddy though, and since I tend to be rather careless, I've gotten quite adept at this

moonshine: thanks! And the green is just abit of flock, it's bene removed after I noticed it on the pic.

Anung Un Rama: thank you! I agree with the assault ramp, it just makes more sense. My legged battlewagon is suitable for transporting grots, but this one really fits the megagrots IMO.

Atre: yes and no . Good craftsmen don't mess up because they are very good at what they do and becaude they know their materials, so they fix the mess-up really well.

Anyway, work on the battlewagon is progressing slowly, I hope to have some more pics up today or tomorrow with most of the detailing done, and then it's graffiti and weatherin' time. Suggestions are welcome as always!

The stompa I intended to build will have to wait some more, since I really want him to walk but can't find a decent robot. Ah well...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/09 07:53:06


Post by: The Good Green


Those grots are awesome. THey have true grit! I can see it in their eyes. The mods to the guns look great too.

The details on the kan came out well, too. I like your color choices.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/09 22:33:25


Post by: Boss 'eadbreaka


Quite like the pose on the kan. And the bipod on the grot blasta is a nice touch.

Keep it up!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 15:35:10


Post by: CommissarKhaine


The Good Green: thanks man! As for the colour choices: I went for a dark(ish) effect, really making them pop against the orange; works for every colour except red, but that's for the pansy orks anyway

Boss 'eadbreaka: Thank you!

Now, onto some more WIP pic sof the BW. I'll be doing some touching up now, and then weathering and graffiti-ing the whole thing. Expect some more WIPs as the graffiti progresses





the 'bridge', with roof this time:



The inside is still pretty bland because I need to paint the grots that will go there, but you can just make out the green edge of the radar screen.

And with the unit it will be tansporting; though even with a biggerized BW, they don't fit all in; the classic GW transport problem





An orange horde instead of a green horde .

Let me know what you think!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 15:56:44


Post by: Gitsplitta


That is fantastic! Especially the shots with the "cargo".. really brings it together. But I must ask... if there is a radar screen... where is the radar dish??

You could do like a "direct TV" or "Dish" (tm) dish (or sorry, whatever satellite TV providers you have in your next of the woods) attached to the side of the bridge with a couple of wires hanging down and going into the window like a bad home installation!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 15:59:50


Post by: Arakasi


CommissarKhaine wrote:As for the colour choices: I went for a dark(ish) effect, really making them pop against the orange; works for every colour except red, but that's for the pansy orks anyway

Dems fight'n wordz!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 16:02:49


Post by: moonshine


yay i lover it


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 18:24:54


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Thank you! You got me with the radar dish, guess I'll have to add one now . Maybe I'll rip off the rearview mirror and add a dish - we'll see! Cabling is a good idea too, I'll see what I can do - nothing says 'greenskin' like some improvised 'improvements'!

Arakasi: Care to put your money where your mouth is? I'll be fighting a friend who said exactly the same thing next Tuesday, so I'll let you know how it went

moonshine: thanks!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 19:06:27


Post by: monkeytroll


Grots are cool, also loving the little bi-pod on the gun, and the BW looks pretty darn cool loaded up like that


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 19:13:01


Post by: grotsrus


Are you making a SAG I think it would look so cool or have the snotlings joined the rebellion.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 19:15:18


Post by: MajorTom11


Khaine, you've gone into hyper productive mode i see! Great stuff man, glad to see you back at it!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 19:34:22


Post by: Atre


I can suggest aerial designs that would work in real life but don't look like a satellite dish if you want something more [strikethrough]orky[\strikethrough] groty.

Although going to the extent of having a plausible radar system designed might be taking modelling details a bit too far ..


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/10 22:51:39


Post by: Arakasi


CommissarKhaine wrote:Arakasi: Care to put your money where your mouth is? I'll be fighting a friend who said exactly the same thing next Tuesday, so I'll let you know how it went


Maybe early next year Da Boss willing...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/11 14:07:57


Post by: CommissarKhaine


monkeytroll: Thanks . And yes, bipod-grot is cool, I really like that model! As for the battlewagon: lovely sight, isn't it?

grotsrus: a SAG will be built eventually, but it didn't make it in any army lists I've built so far, so I don't know when I'll get started on that one. And it won't have snotties being sucked through - it's one of the few decent uses the grots have for orks

MajorTom11: Thanks! September has been way too busy (and part of October as well), so I hope to be getting back on track now . Glad you like'em!

Atre: I partly agree about taking it too far, however, I like the idea - I'll see if I get around to adding it, but I think some kind of radar dish just might make it -maybe attached to the periscope

Arakasi: If I can convince my boss, maybe your boss can join you? Then they can do bossy stuff (shopping would be a safe bet ) while we have a few games . Belgium is a very nice country to visit .

Oh, and here's something people have been waiting for for a very long time: paint on a burnagrot!





Only the orange done so far, but it should give you guys an idea .


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/11 18:47:32


Post by: monkeytroll


Wow, wasn't expecting orange

And I'm cracking up at the idea of a grot mek firing orks through a SAG


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/11 22:34:00


Post by: Atre


CommissarKhaine wrote:
Atre: I partly agree about taking it too far, however, I like the idea - I'll see if I get around to adding it, but I think some kind of radar dish just might make it -maybe attached to the periscope


Ah no, I like the idea - I was just suggesting that having me design a valid radar aerial that looks more orky but WOULD work in real life might be a bit over the top .


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/11 22:36:36


Post by: MajorTom11


monkeytroll wrote:Wow, wasn't expecting orange

And I'm cracking up at the idea of a grot mek firing orks through a SAG


+1 that would be epic!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/12 07:31:03


Post by: Dysartes


CommissarKhaine wrote:And with the unit it will be tansporting; though even with a biggerized BW, they don't fit all in; the classic GW transport problem

Y'see, I'm still a fan of the second edition Battlewagon rules - you can pile on as many Orks as you can fit, but any that fall off as you're moving it take the appropriate damage for falling from a moving vehicle.....


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/12 12:24:34


Post by: CommissarKhaine


monkeytroll: suprise! As for the SAG: it seems a perfect payback to me

Atre: you can actually do that? Nice... And yes, a bit over the top

MajorTom: I haven't been getting my modelling shot lately... Maybe I should make one just for fun?

Dysartes: the good old days, when every assault marine had a different weapon... I remember those days . I still feel the rule should've counted for all armies though



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/12 19:26:11


Post by: Atre


Yup, I'm a physicist by training; EM-radiators and all that are part of the toolkit.

Although I think I might be overselling this a bit, It'll always bear some resemblance to a radar dish or a TV aerial unless you get quite complicated


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/12 21:16:35


Post by: grotsrus


Well if your sending ork through it you should have a sag team the grot holding it and a grot butcher slicing the ork up because a hole ork will not fit in the funnel.YAY FOR GORE!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/12 21:19:06


Post by: The Good Green


I like the idea of a SAG team for the grots. Dem orks iz bigga, aftuh all...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/12 21:48:13


Post by: moonshine


for the sag you could make a really big tunnel for the orks and put it on a sentinel like vehicle,i might use that but i would'nt care if you did it first


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/14 13:20:25


Post by: grotsrus


I huge tube on killa kan. Good idea but a little grot butcher pulling a little cart full of chopped up ork would look much more evil. More revenge for the grotties.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/23 20:28:13


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Atre: sounds interesting, I'll drop you a PM when I start on my stompa

grotsrus: it's more fun if they're conscious while going through the warp

The Good Green: entertaining idea, isn't it?

moonshine: I'll just place my warp tunnel entry on a different bit of the SAG. I'm hesitating between a wartrakk bit as abase, making a mini-tank, or making another exo-suit, although bigger then for the burnagrots.

grotsrus: that would be way too easy

Now, some more BW pics, WIP. I've done most of the painting bar some small details, mainly on the turrets, but I couldn't resist starting on some weathering. I'll be adding some more details to the deffrolla, so it's not included yet.

Fist off: a fly-around:










Please keep in mind that the weathering is still WIP!

And the classical shots with megagrotz:


Yes, I need to weather that dozerblade a lot more...




Let me know hat you think, and if you see any glaring mistakes now's a good time to point them out!




A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/23 21:53:49


Post by: Gitsplitta


*cheers*


Really looking great Khaine! Love the graffiti and slogans on the wagon. Weathering looks like it's coming along nicely too.

Orangs grotz.... sounds like some kind of soda or fancy bar drink.

"Oy mate, I'll 'ave an Orange Grotz... and one for the lady at the end o' the bar too!"


Lessee... a stone sour with a splash of grenadine & two pimento olives with a lime wedge between on a skewer... (like two grot eyes and a nose)



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/23 23:45:21


Post by: Arakasi


CommissarKhaine wrote:And the classical shots with megagrotz:


Glaring mistake fixed!




A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/24 04:45:50


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Thanks! I was afraid I was going a bit overboard on the weathering, but apparently not . Thje drink sounds like a fun idea to take with me to my next tournament .

Arakasi: What glaring mistake? Thanks for pointing that one out!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/24 21:23:44


Post by: MajorTom11


Where is the grot firing orks shokk attack gun???

WE DEMAND IT.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/25 09:55:13


Post by: Commissar Agro


Great stuff Khaine, loveing the weathering!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/25 19:55:16


Post by: Dysartes


Looking good, CK.

I'd like to tweak the SAG suggestion - while I'm not familiar with the current SAG fluff, the original had a Runtherd/Mekboy combo firing bases of Snotlings through it.

Turnabout being fair play, have a SAG operated by Snotlings, with a group of them carrying an Ork as ammunition (think the Nac Mac Feegle, if you've read the Discword books).


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/25 21:37:50


Post by: CommissarKhaine


MajorTom11: Guess I'll have to mess around with my modelling schedule . If it's not up Friday, you'll have to be patient for a bit since I'm away for the weekend!

Commissar Agro: Thanks! The combination of paint and weathering powders is really helping out, it's something I'll be exploring some more methinks.

Dysartes: Interesting idea, and I've read Discworld so the Nac Mac Feegle are familiar to me . For the SAG I was considering a mechanical loading arm, but snotlings are definitely an option. Thanks for the suggestion!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/26 16:40:40


Post by: grotsrus


yes but the grot bucther would most likely be able to keep them conscious even though there in pices. Extra pain. also wouldent it stike fear into ork players to see a cart stuffed full and oozing with there kin i think it would who agrees.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/30 16:07:26


Post by: SovereignStudios


Hey!

Been reading this thread for ages as a non-dakkaite, but now I've joined thought I'd finally comment on all your brilliant work! In short, I LOVE this army. It's full of awesome ideas, all of which have translated into wonderful models. You have such a characterful army, which I love.

And on a side note, I'd like to thank you. I haven't played 40k in years, but recently, I was wanting to get back into it. It was seeing your army that gave me the idea and the impetus to get back into the hobby, and to form my own squeaky WAAAAGH!. So really, thank you. I've loved watching your progress, and I look forward to seeing what's to come.

Stay well.

Edward.

P.S. All this talk of an ork-based SAG... There's a very real danger I may "borrow" that idea myself. Hope that's ok.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/30 16:25:57


Post by: Artsoldier35


@ SS: Welcome to the boards. The proper terminology is LOOT! And most of us would say loot away. Good luck on your own Squeeky WAAAGH!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/30 16:38:47


Post by: Heffling


The battlewagon looks great, but I can't look at it without thinking there needs to be a battlewagon with troop area set up like the hopper on a dump truck. That way the driver could help the cowardly grots "volunteer" to fight by dumping them out!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/30 20:48:08


Post by: CommissarKhaine


grotsrus: maybe, but it doesn't fit the mental image I have (see below)

SovereignStudios: Wow, quite the compliment . I'm glad you find it a characterful army, since that's what I was going for in the first place. Welcome to the boards and I'm glad you decided to get back into the hobby! I think most of us have the occasional hiatus, with me it's switching between systems that keeps me fresh. As for what's to come: here's a very WIP shokk attak gun, so get ready for some lootin'!

Artsoldier35: yep, lootin' it is!

Heffling: Thank you! These grots aren't cowards btw, they're revolutionaries! Not to mention the BW is carrying megagrots or burnagrots, which tend to be a bit braver

Now, two very WIP pics of the shokk attak gun, to see how you guys feel about it. It's based on a wartrakk (which would be a great start for a grot tank, if I ever decided to build a few), and the orks will be tossed in by the loading arm which still needs ot be attached. I also need an additional KMB to complete the spinny bits . The bit where the ork will be tosse din will have warp energy coming out, probably done by melting some green plastic.

Piccies:




Let me know what you think, but keep in mind it's VERY WIP!





A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/30 21:06:14


Post by: monkeytroll


'Nobody tosses an Or-gurg, ahhh, wha?' ZAPP!

Looks interesting CK

Where exactly will the orks be getting tossed? into the body of the trakk, or is that a holding area and they'll be thrown into the back of the actual gun?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/30 22:28:07


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


I like the idea, and the mockup looks very promising.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/11/30 23:02:40


Post by: Dysartes


Crewed by Grots or Snots, CK?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/01 16:14:31


Post by: moonshine


wow it looks amazing i'd like it if it had a suction tube on it but what you've done is good


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/01 16:57:29


Post by: CommissarKhaine


monkeytroll: thanks. this will be one of those pieces were vicious humour will make it work

Rose_Mountainz: Thank you! I've added a new pic to make thigns a bit clearer.

Dysartes: Not sure yet. I like the Nac Mac Feegle idea, but I'll have to see how it works out with the models. I know I can make it work with a grot, but a lot of snotties do have some humorous (sp?) potential

Moonshine: thanks. I liked the grabber arm because I wanted to improve on the orky design, and because grots are too weedy to hold on to a suction tube

Anway, clearer pic with one option: a grot controller. The basic gun build is finished, it's the other worky bits that I'm still considering. I'm rummaging through my bitz boxes to see if I have enough snotlings that could work, but we'll have to see what I dig up.



I don't mind it extending over the base, but this pic does show how big the darn thing is


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/01 18:28:47


Post by: Gathering Storm


That looks really cool. Great idea for the attack gun. I think you should have some grots trying to stuff an Ork into the box that is attached to the Shokk Attak Gun's "ammo" tube.

Also, will you be adding any more fluff, because I am a real fan of it and would love to see another installation.

EDIT: changed my idea.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/01 18:36:14


Post by: The Good Green


I think it needs more of an entrance for the orks to get into the gun. What about running a huge hose from the gun to the grabba bit and having it be like a big vacuum?

The gun looks cool, very much a SAG. I think the rig needs more grots, though.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/01 19:47:29


Post by: moonshine


ohh i like it even more with the driver it makes sence why the tubes gone now


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/03 21:26:31


Post by: grotsrus


Amazing but how does the ork get in the sag theres no hole on the gun


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/06 21:38:56


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gathering Storm: thanks! I don' t have many grots in good poses, so I'll have to settle for a bunch of grots controlling the crane arm . I've been working on and off on some fluff, but it's not quite there yet...If I get it roght though, expect a bunch of fluff updates followign each other (relatively) closely!

The Good Green: The entrance is there, and hopefully it'll be clearer in these pics - and there's more snotlings now - in fact, there's only snotlings, quite fitting for a SAG as has already been pointed out

moonshine: glad it makes sense now - I feel conversions should be very obvious if you're straying from 'regular' stuff.

grotsrus: watch the pic, this should make it clear

So, more piccies! The gun itself is finished bar removing some mould lines, now I just need to gs the ork hangin there and find an additional snotling in a suitable pose to be pestering the ork









Now, it's back to painting the last battlewagon bits and the burnagrot - since I actually see myself using those in battle . Let me know what you think!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/06 21:55:07


Post by: Atre


Adjust the ork's free leg (ie. his left one). It's not quite natural in the current pose.

Other than that - Awesome


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/06 22:05:32


Post by: The Good Green


What Atre said. Great job!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/06 22:12:00


Post by: monkeytroll


Great stuff, good use of those snotlings.



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/06 22:46:22


Post by: Gitsplitta


LOL! Khaine, you are a bloody genious!

:-)


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/06 23:11:04


Post by: moonshine


oooooooooooh it's coming along nicely indeed


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/07 07:45:39


Post by: Dysartes


That's looking great, CK. Why do I feel that the Snotling with catapult would be appropriate here?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/07 17:33:39


Post by: grotsrus


Now the orks added it looks amazing i will add this to my notebook of sag loading designs.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
YAAAAY for snotlings and sags


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/07 20:12:21


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Atre: actually, it's his caught leg I adjusted. I wanted him to look like he was wriggling, trying to get out of the grip. And: thank you!

The Good Green: see the comment above Thanks!

monkeytroll: Thanks, I really like the old snotties. I'm going to order me the lootin' grots from GW Direct as well I think, it's a nice way to add some variation and humour!

Gitsplitta: I wish, but thank you, glad you like'em!

moonshine: thanks!

Dysartes: the one with the catapult is sitting on another snotling's shoulders, and these guys are already being used to control the crane arm. I found a tomato-throwing one though

grotsrus: Thank you, and feel free to loot it! My only gripe with it is that it's a tad big for a 40mm base, but I doubt anyone'll make a problem of it .

Anyway, I finished the ork and added another snotling to the SAG, and I'm calling it finished for now.





I'm going to be building some more grots to keep me sane while painting lot sof orange. In the meanwhile, expect a painted burnagrot somewhere this week, as that's next on the list of things to finish!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/07 20:17:01


Post by: wib


Ha! Talk about role reversal, great work on the SAG


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/07 20:19:24


Post by: RaptorsTalon


Great work.
The modle looks amazing


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/07 20:35:41


Post by: Gathering Storm


Looks great. You should have another Grot on the SAG which is pointing a stick at the Ork to bait it.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/07 23:14:48


Post by: moonshine


I really like the ork it's like some torture plan by a james bond villian.
I imagine if they were talking it would sound like this

Ork: do you you excpect me to die?

Grot: no i excpect you to travel through my impossible machine through the war and apear craved on the other side.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 00:12:35


Post by: monkeytroll


Nice!
Maybe some thread on the legs, as though he's broken his bonds in his struggles?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 06:19:36


Post by: Arakasi


Must... not... encourage...

If that Ork ends up another in Da Dark Angelz colours it'll be an objective, not a SAG!

Really like the job on the chute thing on the back though.

(Yes, I'm still lurking on this thread!)


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 17:40:39


Post by: CommissarKhaine


wib: That's more or less the point . I just wish there were more grot models that are useful for this kind of thing.

RaptorsTallon: Thanks!

Gathering Storm: Thank you! I wish I had a proper model, but a grot would be too big compared to the snotlings. Maybe if I find a good model in my bitz box!

moonshine: Accusing us poor grots of torture? It's the orks that tortured us! This is just poetic justice - applied with a pointy stick

monkeytroll: Thanks! Good ide aon the legs, I'll try and add some shackles or something.

Arakasi: Glad to see you're still around! The chute is what makes it work IMO, since a tube would be a tad heavy for the little snotties . And: I'll be going through my bitz box for a few feathers in that case

Now, onto a painted model: I finally managed to get a burnagrot finished (shock!horror!gasp!) . Here's the piccies, painfully showing I need to fix up the yellow and black striping a tad more. Pictures always show the bitz you missed :(









Pics were taken with flash, so the colours are a tad paler then they should be. Let me knwo what you think!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 17:46:14


Post by: MajorTom11


Lol. love the Shokk! In this case though it should be refering to the Orks reaction to his predicament lol


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 18:25:55


Post by: Gitsplitta


He looks like an orange, grot version of one of my Mantis Warrior vanguard models... which, since I actually haven't yet MADE any Mantis Warrior vanguard models makes him the first one... congrats CK! Well done! Let me send you some green paint and we'll be in business!

*smirk*


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 18:30:35


Post by: Behind th Mask


LOL ... LOVE the SAG !!!! Fantastic!!!!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 18:33:34


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Finally some paint!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 19:08:01


Post by: grotsrus


What the sag gun made of.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 20:13:04


Post by: CommissarKhaine


MajorTom11: Quite the predicament indeed

Gitsplitta: Great minds think alike? .Your vanguard looks great btw, don't you have a prototype lying around somewhere? I remember the brilliant chainswords you madeJust paint it!

Behind th Mask: Thank you!

Rose_Mountainz: Yeah, I know... Painting is just a lot slower then modelling

grotsrus: the gun itself uses a zzap gun from the battlewagon as a base, with KMB bits from the dread. The crane is a BW grabba arm, and the track unit is from a wartrakk.



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 20:18:58


Post by: Gitsplitta


CommissarKhaine wrote:Gitsplitta: Great minds think alike? .Your vanguard looks great btw, don't you have a prototype lying around somewhere? I remember the brilliant chainswords you madeJust paint it!

It melted.... it's better not to ask why.

On the up-side the new version will have custom made helmets, jump packs and shoulder pads... so maybe it was fate. Also on the up-side your grots are freakin' AWESOME! Put that in your pipe and smoke it... *grin*


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 20:48:46


Post by: Llamahead


Have to say when talking about the Grot SAG I just had this image of half a dozen signs "Come here for free Gunz" "Free Teefs here" "Dead good choppy loot 'ere" until it leads to a large X below the giant vacuum cleaner which fires them into the warp....Yours looks far better however!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 21:15:29


Post by: Anung Un Rama


Let me put this in the words of my newest favourite TV character:

FANTASTIC!

That has to be the most hilarious Ork model I've seen all year. An Grot SAG that fires Orks. Give this man a medal.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 21:40:30


Post by: monkeytroll


Once again, the burnagrot really comes to life with a dash of paint on Great job.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/08 21:41:59


Post by: Anvildude


Remember, when you'se writin' on it, da Orks got dere own letters. Dey don't use puny 'umie wunz.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/10 17:48:44


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Sorry to hear that. Ah well, at least it gives you the opportunity to build a better one, so it's not all bad

Llamahead: That's actually a nice idea, but hard to build on a 40mm base . With the little tank, I can just shove a 40mm base underneath and he's legal.

Anung Un Rama: Thank you

monkeytroll: Now all I need to do is paint 9 more for a finsihed unit .(laughs while sanity slips away)

Anvildude: but then nobody could read the funny insults . And fluff wise, they'll probably come into contact with human writing rather then ork writing.


Speaking of fluff: here's a new bit!



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The hunting parties had been forced to push further and further into the tunnels since they had begun their raids. Some of the resources they stole were being replaced, but they didn’t want to draw too much attention to the tunnel entrance, and certain resources were moved to different areas. This meant they had to explore further and further in the facility, trying to keep the increasing numbers of extinctor-servitors off their backs.

The Adeptus Mechanicus’ response to the infestation was similar to the way the Imperium responded when under attack: local servitors responded first, and each time the threat turned out to be bigger then what the present servitors could handle, the system ‘escalated’ to include additional servitors, simultaneously increasing group size. Soon, the system would have to alert the Adeptus Mechanicus and skittarii deployment would be considered. The security system’s losses were still within its task parameters, but they wouldn’t be for long. The grots themselves had been very stealthy, leaving little to no trace, going as far as taking the remains of the extinctor-servitors with them so they wouldn’t be found. But the losses they inflicted were being registered. It was only a matter of time before the matter of the increasing vermin problem would be brought to the attention of a clerk. Still, none of this was known to the gretchin, who had simply attributed the increasing opposition to the common sense of The Enemy.

Scrazza’s team had been exploring the lower levels of the facility extensively, finding an entrance into the ventilation system, crawling through spaces far too small for humans or orks, or indeed any of the other races studied in the Magos Biologis facility that were designated as dangerous. The grots all had good stealth skills, something bred into them through generations of abuse by their larger cousins, and their new-won freedom hadn’t done anything to breed this trait out of them. The hostile environment of the caves (and the facility) was unkind to a stray grot wandering off on his own. Most of the cave dwellers were very aggressive, due to the squig infestation: any cave creature that wasn’t able to indimidate a squig hound had long since been devoured by the voracious packs stalking the tunnels.

As the grots had been moving deeper into the facility through the vents, they found many parts were blocked, even the smaller vents having automated defence systems too dangerous to even consider crossing. Using the vents did allow them to avoid the control servitors in the corridors though, who registered heat and immediately demanded identification to anyone coming nearby.

The parts they did have access to were mainly storage areas, but this suited the grots fine. They had found supplies, tools, and even the occasional weapon. Thanks to the raider’s discoveries, the weaponry of the grots had come leaps and bounds since the makeshift spears with which they had entered the tunnels. And now, Scrazza could feel they were onto something big. They had found a room that was guarded by two weaponized servitors, and when the doors had opened, they had seen big crates being wheeled in, the Enemies talking excitedly about fractal math capability and increased protection. Scrazza had no idea what ‘fraktal mad kapabilitiez” were, but they had to be important! Scrazza figured they were going to need something big soon anyway, since The Enemy would eventually find a way to stop their raids; they had already become much harder due to the increased patrols. Instinctively, he knew that the gains had to become bigger as well if they wanted their forays into the facility to be worth it.

The grots had been studying the patterns of the servitors and the Enemiez, and they had concluded that the perfect time to strike was when the Enemiez were just entering the storage room while returning the crates. At that point, the servitors were distracted by all the movement around them in the generally empty hallway, and Scrazza figured the Enemiez wouldn’t be missed till after they had run off with the crates. The fact that they would have to kill all the Enemiez in sight was more an added bonus then a problem. [Scrazza knew they were barely armed, and they were always so engrossed talking about what was inside the crates that they barely registered their surroundings. ]

Scrazza and Gitskog were carefully judging their moment, awaiting the right time to launch their assault. The grot hunters had carefully worked themselves into their respective positions with admirable discipline, but now the tension was becoming too much for them. Scrazza could see a head peeking out here and there, and heard the occasional suppressed cackle. Luckily, the approaching Enemy were too concerned with their cargo and too busy discussing fractal calculations and hypertensic light conduction to notice.

The entry procedure was the same as ever: one of the Enemiez gave a command to the servitor, they both stepped aside, the door was opened with a badge, and the scientists entered.

As soon as the servitors had turned their backs to the hallway to keep observing the scientists, the grots sprung their ambush. The gretchin hunting packs had picked up a few tricks with the extinctor-servitors: they quickly appeared and disappeared, confusing the targeting patterns of the servitors who were still checking for an IFF-signal when the first shots rang out. Gitskog’s shot clipped the right servitor in the shoulder, but Scrazza’s aim was true: the shot from his captured shotgun hit the servitor full in the chest, punching through the chestplate and throwing the servitor against one of the scientists, who started panicking and fleeing blindly into the storage room as the soon as the first shot rang out. Scrazza knew better then to go after them though; the second servitor had survived the first volley and was returning fire, indiscriminately raking crates, the hallway, and poor Tiqrit, who jerked wildly as he was hit by lasbolt after lasbolt, the red hot lances of light going straight through the scrawny greenskin. Tiqrit’s death didn’t save the servitor though as a speargun almost took his head straight off, causing the gun arm to go limp as it slumped against the doorway. As the alarm started to ring out, the grots mercilessly slaughtered the scientists and retreated, taking the smoking remains of Tiqrit – and the boxes that the Enemies had been so excited about.

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A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/10 18:03:50


Post by: Gathering Storm


Yay!!! You listened to my plea for more fluff! I must say it is brilliant and the little cliffhanger of whats in the boxes in great. I would be tempted to organise all the parts of the story into one place (as they are intriguing, enjoyable and a tad humorous).


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/10 19:03:03


Post by: Gitsplitta


Nice CK.... nice afternoon read. Thank you!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/11 00:35:46


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Sweet. Nice to see some fluff again.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/11 06:56:25


Post by: Commissar Agro


YAY fluff, its good!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/15 08:22:35


Post by: grotsrus


Fluff fluff fluffty fluf fluff.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/21 20:05:38


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Hey guys, sorry I haven't bene very active, but a combination of illness and the winter have kept me from the hobby a lot :(.

Gathering Storm: Glad you like it since you've been waiting for so long, and I agree: I think I'll make a post in the background section and put everything together.

Gitsplitta: you're welcome!

Rose_Mountainz: Thanks!

Commissar Agro: Thank you!

grotsrus:something like that, yes

Anyway, in between lot sof snow, being ill and alot of job stuff, I got one more killa kan finished, meaning my firs tunit of three is finished. Yay! Unfortunately, the camera died on me after a single measly pic :(. Since natural light isn't around when I'm home (I leave when it's still dark and I get home when it's dark - gotta love the winter...), it was taken with flash. I'll try and post more and better pics tomorrow. I'm glad I got this one finished though - only three more to go





A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/21 20:32:07


Post by: Gitsplitta


Looks great CK, love the slogans and the work on the tusks. I also like the base... really neat the way you've got the ground level flocking with occasional tufts of grass sticking up.

Take care of yourself, I'm just starting to shake something that's had me down for 2 weeks, you don't want to get stuck being ill over the holidays.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/21 23:01:42


Post by: MajorTom11


How about a whole army shot, just for gaks and gigs?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/21 23:11:59


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Yay, nice for you to have a full unit painted now are you going to leave the view slit black or paint it as a screen?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/22 05:12:17


Post by: monkeytroll


Ohh, more orangey goodness Good job CK, although I'm also wondering about the vision slit


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/22 07:06:14


Post by: Arakasi


Looking good - as always!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/22 19:50:06


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Thanks glad you like the kan . I use the two GW brands of flock for the bases, since I wanted the bases to look decent and very cohesive throughout the army. As for being ill: I got through it with a week's rest, but I really needed that week, it's been a while since I was this sick - ah well, the blessings of father N?urgle I guess You take care as well!

MajorTom11: scroll down

Rose_Mountainz: Yup, having a full unit painted is nice indeed . As for the vision slit: I think it's going to stay black, wouldn't know what else to do with it... I've considered OSL, but I don't feel like messing up the paintjob...

monkeytroll: orange FTW! .

Arakasi: Thanks! Always means a lot coming from an orange-hater

Anyway, some more piccies!

First off, some more pics of the last kan, and to finish off a group shot of everything I've got assembled. The group shot is a tad blurry as always, best I can do :(









Enjoy, and let me know what you think!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/22 21:23:07


Post by: Arakasi


CommissarKhaine wrote:Arakasi: Thanks! Always means a lot coming from an orange-hater

I may be an orange-hater, but that doesn't mean I won't whoop those Grotz into next week... I mean... appreciate the fine work!

Your army is coming along nicely. I still haven't completed my first Troop, Trukk and HQ yet! (Though working on it - one of your suggestions to me way back when...)



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/22 21:28:35


Post by: monkeytroll


Group shot looks pretty cool, think I'm going to have to go back over the thread again to remind myself of some of those


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 06:09:17


Post by: Commissar Agro


That killa kan looks very killy...I would not want to be on the business end of that kan.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 17:37:43


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Joske De Veteraan: Thanks! Good to see you join dakka!

Arakasi: Guess you really want me to turn the SAG ork into a dark angel? As for the army: I still feel it' smoving along slowly; I've got a tourney in Febryary, and I'm debating painting my grots up for then, but I feel it might be hard to get everything done by then... And: in the end you'll be glad you started on some basic stuff as well

To make you feel a bit better, here's where the army stands, baseed on my 1750 points list:

HQ:
Warboss: done
Big Mek: done

ELITES:

10 Burnagrots: 1/10 painted

2x 5 Lootas: I've got a bunch ready, but I'm goign to redo some. 5/10 built, 0 painted

TROOPS

29 grots, 2 kommissarz: done

19 grots, 1 kommisar: kommissar done,5 grots painted

19 grots, 1 kommisar: kommissar done,0 grots painted

5 megagrotz + battlewagon: megagrotz done, battlewagon 95% finished (crew and deffrolla to do)


FAST ATTACK

2x deffkopta with buzzswa: 1 50% done, 1 still black

3x buggies/wartrakks: 1 done, 1 busy, and I need to buiild an additional buggy

HEAVY SUPPORT:

Battlewagon: done

3 killa kans: done

3 killa kans: 1 WIP, 2 undercoated.


As you can see, still alot to do :(

monkeytroll: that's alot of pages to go through, but feel free and I hope you enjoy it. Mastablasta is on p.2 IIRC

Commissar Agro: that's more or less the point Glad you like him!

Anywayz, I need your opinion on a head. I bought the micro-art metal goblin heads (which are great btw), but they look a tad large. In the meantime, you get to see some new grots .



So, yay or nay on the head?





A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 17:41:33


Post by: Gitsplitta


I think it looks fine. The pit-helmet with the schnoz hanging out is great!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 18:48:41


Post by: Rose_Mountainz


Have you playtested the grotz resently? I demand a battle report!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 19:26:25


Post by: monkeytroll


Looks a little on the large side, does he have his mouth open? If it's closed then maybe a tad large for the grot bodies, but maybe not, can we get a side shot at all?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 19:42:30


Post by: The Good Green


Yeah, I don't see any problems. It is bigger than the others, but it's orks. They's all different sizes.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 19:54:39


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: gotta love the helmets, they really did it for me

Rose_Mountainz: last battle with my grots was in August; I hope to get a battle in the next few weeks. My ork opponent chickened out a few times, and work +kid have made going to the LFGS a tad hard...

monkeytroll: the mouth is open; one side shot, coming up!

The Good Green: I know he's bigger, I just wonder of he's too big... It will probably look better painted, but I'm not sure.

Anwyay, side shot, showing the head at it's largest, especially with the skinny torso underneath; maybe I should add some gear to the grot to bulk him out?



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 20:05:39


Post by: Panic


yeah,
nice!
Panic.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 21:16:02


Post by: Joske De Veteraan


good enough for me.. ever used them in a battle??


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 21:55:09


Post by: monkeytroll


With the side shot showing the open mouth I think it'll be fine. As you say it'll look much better when painted, I always find a mix of metal and plastic makes it a little harder to judge if components are really mis-matched, the differing colour/texture makes any difference more pronounced.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/23 22:31:42


Post by: MeatShield


I really want to see a Terminator based army fight these guys some day. I can see the final moments now. The last Veteran in tactical dreadnought armor slipping on a pile of bolter shells and mutilated green paste, never to stand back up, as tiny cackling green men rush in to find any chink in his armor week enough for a rusty pick axe to finish the job.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/24 06:08:58


Post by: Commissar Agro


It looks fine cause his pie hole (or whatever grots eat) is open.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/24 08:11:49


Post by: Arakasi


Is the grot head significantly bigger than all of the GW ones? Cause some of those are huge from memory - may just be a case of finding the appropriately sized grot body to go with it. Not that I'm seeing anything wrong with the one you have chosen. Paint it and see! (It's not like a single non character grot is going to stand out in your army...)


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/24 10:14:19


Post by: moonshine


i think it's great you need head variaty after all


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/24 12:09:52


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Panic: thanks!

Joske De Veteraan: a few times; ther's some ;small batreps a few pages back!

monkeytroll: you're probably right, the metal really emphasises (sp?) the size difference - and the fact that his mouth is wide open doens't really help

MeatShield: that's a nice mental image .

Commissar Agro: you'r eprobably right. I'm going to paint this one and see how it turns out.

Arakasi: It's a bit bigger (2-3 mm), but that's plenty on a 28 mm figure... Not to mention GW already has heroic scale heads, so yeah, it's big I'm definitley going to paint it, since I have 9 moreof these heads 10 grot might stand out a tad...

moonshine: I agree I need the variety, but I still want it to look good.

I'll let you guys know how it turns out once painted, thanks for the encouragement and the advice!

As a parting gift: here's a vintage grot. With purple shades, sinc eh's so old he remembers Woodstock





Disclamier: pic was taken with flsh, which messes stuff up. Not to mention that seeing your mini 5 times bigger shows every single flaw... Still a nice mini though!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/24 16:44:13


Post by: moonshine


thats great his shades are fantastic. btw if you want to get some unique head you could drill the eye of a grot


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/24 16:51:28


Post by: monkeytroll


Classy shades


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/24 20:31:40


Post by: Llamahead


I like the new heads you could mass them up as an elite grot storm squad.....They don't look that out of scale to me.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/24 20:41:38


Post by: neil101


Nice army Khaine, The Snotlings /Gretchins look good, as do the Cool pimping Sunglasses. Merry Christmas btw.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/25 01:06:01


Post by: EagleArk


Merry christmas!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/25 07:10:41


Post by: Teek


The MAS head does look a tad large now, but I'm confident a coat of paint will help blend the scale together.

If all else fails, try it on one of the old multi-part night gobbos, those bodies were just a tad larger than the current plastic gretchin.

The army is really coming together, looks great!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/25 20:35:41


Post by: CommissarKhaine


moonshine: Thanks! Drilling out an eye and maybe giving him an eyepatch or a bionic eye sounds like a plan, thanks for the idea!

monkeytroll: Thanks!

Llamahead: good idea, but then i'd need rules or a counts-as for them. not to mention the main ide ais to ge tmore variety in my regular grots. I will be using a few for my vehicles though - size will be les sof an issue then anyway.

neil101: Thanks, and Merry Christmas to you too!

EagleArk: Right back at you!

Teek: As soon as temperatures rise above freezing point I'll undercoat the little bugger and see how he looks with some paint on. I've got a bunch of plastic goblins still lying around and they're a tad bigger indeed, so using those is always an option. thanks for the suggestion! Glad you like the army, means a lot coming from one of the greenskin convertin' bosses!

Merry Christmas everrybody, and here's two more grots I got done in between going to christmas dinners, lunches, etc...





The gallery corrected a bit for the colours since the flash washed them out - let me know what you think about them!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/25 20:57:37


Post by: monkeytroll


Gangsta grots ftw

Not sure if it's the flash/auto correction, but the head above the shades looks to be a different tone to the rest. Other than that, looking gooood


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/25 21:27:24


Post by: Gitsplitta


Looking good CK! More grotz for the mill.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/26 06:41:35


Post by: CommissarKhaine


monkeytroll: might be because he's wearing a bandana

Gitsplitta: thanks! I'm over halfway with the basic grots for my 1750 points list now


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/26 12:00:42


Post by: monkeytroll


Ahh, gotcha, thought that was an ear sticking up
Must...pay...more ..attention


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/27 07:55:16


Post by: Big Mek Dattrukk


After lurking through your entire thread over the weekend, i am finally qualified to say: This is one of the coolest armies I've seen. The fact that it is playable is thick yummy icing on a perfect cake.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/27 17:08:18


Post by: CommissarKhaine


monkeytroll: yes, you should. That's the problem with the pics, really, if you hold the model and turn it around, it's pretty clear.

Big Mek Dattrukk: Wow, thanks! . And if it isn't playable, it isn't an army IMO

So, two more grots finished, bringing me up to a grand total of 39... lol Ah well, only 38 to go for my standard 1750 list



I'm also working on a deffkopta and a new kan, I'll try and put up some WIP pics somewhere this week!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/27 17:43:13


Post by: Heffling


Great looking stuff. I dig the shades.

I think the head will be fine. The problem is that he's got a helmet on with some kinda side straps or guards, and that makes it look alot bigger than the head part itself is.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2010/12/27 19:03:29


Post by: Young_Logan


Still looking good, and the painted grots look great


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/05 21:19:06


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Heffling: Yeah, I think he'll be fine. We'll see how he looks painted! Glad you like the shades, they'r emy favourite part as well, and real easy to make

Young_Logan: Thanks, glad you like'em!

theamericanos: Thanks!

So, festivities over. Let's hope I can get some work done on the serious business now: grots

For piccies today, I've got a warbuggy for you guys. it had been sitting on my shelf of shame for a while because of an undercoating accident, but today I decided to fix it up since I really liked the model. I hope you'll agree he turned out more or less OK:









I like how the wheels turned out, I might revisit some of my older vehicles and do something similar with them. I'm not tha tkeen one the orange job on this one however. Since the undercoat got messed up, my regular highlight-wash-highlight didn't really pick up the details as it should. Thank god for weathering to cover up some of the mess-ups So, wat are you guys' thoughts on this one? keep him or build a new one?





A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/05 21:22:02


Post by: Scrazza


I like the warbuggy. Cool expression onthat driver as well

Hey I just read apiece of fluff you written. You included my name. I approve.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/05 21:29:54


Post by: Gitsplitta


Really nice CK... needs some blue!!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/05 21:39:01


Post by: monkeytroll


I'd have thought the answer was obvious CK.

You keep this one....

and build another one.

I like it, especially from the side where you can see the disparity between the vehicle and the tiny grot driver.

Is that 'maniak' on the number plate? Can't get a clear view of it.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/06 06:46:34


Post by: Arakasi


I agree with monkeytroll Is there a gunner to go with that? It looks a bit empty behind the driver... I'm not looking forward to bending plasticard tube - there seems to be a fine line between Orky and wonky - hope my first attempt is at least this good...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/06 17:23:15


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Scrazza: Thanks! And yeah, I nicked your name. that's what you get with grots Glad you like the background as well!

Gitsplitta: Yep, totally forgot to do grafifti on this one, guess it's because I didn't do in on the halftrack either. I'm going to give them both some graffiti, thanks for pointing that out!

monkeytroll: lol, guess you're right The number plate says 'Mad Max' as a nod to the movie (since it was an inspiration for the vehicles), but I like maniak as well. The Dark future anthologies from GW had a gang called the Maniax (their boss was called the Grand Exalted Bullmoose ), so I think I'll add that to my next license plate as a bit of a tribute. Another one will be built as soon as my order from maelstrom arrives, but they've been on the slow side recently - probably with the holidays and everything.

Arakasi: Guess you're right as well . I intended to add the grot with the hammer from the stompa set, but totally forgot a bout him... I'll paint him up and add him - as soon as I can find him! For the plasticard tube, I've head about filling them with sand or coat hanger wire to make them keep their shape. Page 3 or 4 of the threadhas some good advice about avoiding crimping when bending plastic tubing. And this wasn't my first attempt, I wasted about a foot of tubing before I got it right the first time... Be prepared for a certain amount of frustration



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/09 12:13:26


Post by: CommissarKhaine


What, no words of encouragement when it comes ot finishing the buggies? :( Good thing, since modeller's ADD kicked in and I decided to bust up a truck anyway instead of finishing them . I wasn't happy with the third buggy I'd made, and I figured a truck would be a nice start because of the engine and the big wheels, and from there on it's just finding good missiles, really . So, going with monkeytroll and Arakasi, here's a few pics showing how I got started.

I started off by cutting off the rear bit of the the truck where the last set of wheels attaches:



I could've kept both the rear wheels for a more 'monster-truck' look, but I like the smaller front wheels, it makes it look a bit faster.

After that, it's adding the engine and some floor plates to get a basic 'feel' of the mini, and to see how balanced it is after I cut off about a third of the model:



I think it looks stubby but fast, just the look I was going for! Cutting off the rear bit doesn't make the modle look unbalanced; a huge engine is OK in my book for grots, so now it was figuring out where to put the missile gunner. Now, I could just've added him in the cupola, but where's the fun in that? After some contemplation, I decided I wanted at least four grots on this one: a driver, a spotter, a loader, and a missile gunner in some kind of turret. The gunner's turret is too good a bit to pass on though, so I added some railing to the rear, as well as an assymetric floorplate with some railings:



And guess what fits on nicely?


Yep, the gunner's turret. In this pic, you also see the remains of the chair after I cut out the ork. I'll be greenstuffing in a seat, and the adding a driver. I just need to figure out how to attach the control panel and still make everything paintable.... Since the trukk only comes with one seat, the spotter will be getting a kustom made one.

To finish off, here's a view of the rear, showing off the assymetric body and the rollcage-attachment for the turret.



So, thoughts? - besides the fact that I need to clean off some mould lines




A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/09 12:21:11


Post by: Gitsplitta


I really like it! Really has that hunky-junky feel to it. And I can imagine the grot in his turret feeling like the king of the world...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/09 12:42:54


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Very nice, fairly expensive for one buggy though!?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/09 12:57:59


Post by: Boyz "R" Us


Oooo, nice buggy, looking forward to seeing your progress with this one! Also I like the orange on your previous buggy too, a happy accident, as I'm sure it will add a bit of extra orky variety to your army. Keep up the great work


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/09 13:36:41


Post by: Atre


*drool*
That's what orky construction should look like...

Excellent stuff


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/09 13:48:34


Post by: monkeytroll


Yep, liking that I'm a fan of the asymmetric look, just needs some grots and some whizz-bangs


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/09 17:04:30


Post by: Arakasi


Watching with anticipation as this is exactly how I would have done my first buggy - well - minus the grotz anyway

I vaguely remember seeing somewhere where someone had flipped the chassis over - which results in a lower to the ground buggy - but this is good too - very jeep like...

Looking forward to looting some ideas from here in the future... (again)


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/09 21:36:22


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Thanks! Yep, I think the gunner and the spotter are both going to be over-the-top happy. And the new trukk has a lovely junkyard feel - it's a really nice model.

Vitruvian XVII: Thank you! And yes, it's more expensive then a buggy, but you pay as much for, say, a sentinel, and the old warbuggies are really goofy unless you extensively convert them - oh wait... . I feel that the truck is good value (for being a GW model anyway),and since I won't be using trucks I don' t mind shelling out for the one to have an additional unique vehicle.

Boyz "R" Us: Thanks and glad you like the orange .

Atre: wow, thanks . A lot of it has to do with the truck kit I feel; it's really nice and very orky.

monkeytroll: I agree, a lot more whizzbangs, but I need to get the basic shape first (piccie below). Once I got that down, it's addin' gubbins time!

Arakasi: Thank you! I did sonsider inverting the chassis (I held the damn thing in my hands for nearly ten minutes before deciding where to cut), but I liked the 4WD feel of this one, especially with the different-sized wheels that add a bit of cartoony racer-look. As for the looting: it's the greenskin way, I regularly drop by toget some inspiration as well - thought I felt doing the supsension thingy on this one would be making it very busy. If I ever build a truck though, I'll be studying your trucks

Now, just some small progress: I got the basic turret shape, and tried making a second chair shape out of plasticard. It's a bit large, so I'll probably make a smaller chair that fits in better. After that, it's gsing the chairs, building up the engine, and then adding gubbins and grots!



The gunner still needs a lot of detailing (and a head ) and a rokkit pack - I got a valk MRP lying around so that's a prime candidate.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/10 21:11:49


Post by: CommissarKhaine


A more substantial update this time around: I managed to finish the rokkit gunner and added most of the gubbinz. now it's adding more krew and grotting it up a bit

Piccies:



I'm not sure about the seats yet; I'll have to see how well they match up with a grot before deciding whether to keep them or not.



And a decent view of the grot gunner:



Enjoy!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/10 21:15:49


Post by: Gitsplitta


Brilliant CK! That is a hilarious looking ride!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/11 00:48:07


Post by: MajorTom11


Your ability to kitbash complete anarchy into sensical looking, orky and unique vehicles continues to astound... I often wonder if you visualize things before hand, or just grab a tub of bits and go at it... either way, awesome results


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/11 08:58:22


Post by: bra'tac


Lovely Grots you got in here!

Can't wait to see more of them (and steel some idea's)


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/11 10:23:02


Post by: Arakasi


What were you planning for the space next to the Rokkit Launcha grot? I'd be inclined, given the size of the model, to lower the Rokkit Launcha into this space.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/11 20:37:56


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Thanks man!

MajorTom11: Thank you!

I often wonder if you visualize things before hand, or just grab a tub of bits and go at it... either way, awesome results


A bit of both really. The pic of a model will usually give me some inspiration, but it's only after I've held the sprues (and ideally built the kit once/blu-tacked it/ held the bits together) that I'll get going. To take the buggy as an example: I knew I wanted an additional buggy, that didn't look as goofy as the 20 year old GW one. Since I'd never used a truck (and don't intend to with this army), and that I want lots of unique vehicles, I figured this cool kit was too good an opportunity to pass up, especially since I could already see the 4WD vehicle in my head . After the basic concept is there, it's matching the visualization to available bits or improving my orginal concept thanks to the bits - the Valk MRP was one of those bits that helped here . When I started with the buggy, I didn't know how I would add the rokkits, but I knew I wanted them in the back to make clear that the passenger compartment isn't in use. It's only after I held the turret bits that I decided to use those. As another example my second (tracked) battlewagon was made because I had a set of tracks left over from my legged battlewagon, and because I liked the look of the FW Gorgon. While it's not a Gorgon, it wasn't meant to be, but I hope you'll agree that it's most definitely an assault transport . Biggerizing was simply the logical next step due to the size of the tracks and the fact that GW vehicles are tiny...

bra'tac: Thanks! Feel free to loot any ideas, I've been watching your thread with exactly the same intent!

Arakasi: No plans at all . I tried lowering the rokkits, but it didn't look right, and I couldn't find a second MRP in my bitz box to make it symmetrical, becasue then it could've worked. When flat-out to the side, it looked like it could fall off anytime instead of being precariously balanced and then welded on like it does now. I'll agree that it's no the most effective build from a gaming point of view, but it's definitely cooler . If you have any suggestions on how to make it look good lowered, I can always rip it off

Wow, lots of text, and a few pics, time to remedy that! Now, I didn't get any work done on the buggy (wife + son are ill :( ), but I did manage to finish off the battlewagon krew, something long overdue.

A pic before they were glued into place:


And in the battlewagon:




Unfortunately, the windows I made don't allow for enough light to enter, but I still thought this was a cool shot:


Now all it needs is a gunner for the other turret, because the current one was grabbed by a hungry mega-feline, never to be found... :(

I've got a few other unfinished projects to work on now (including the buggy), so lets hope I can get some stuff finished... Or maybe we should hope ADD kicks in again, I still have a stompa kit lying around...



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/12 01:17:55


Post by: Boyz "R" Us


Hehe, love that mirror, a really nice touch, great work keep it up


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/12 07:55:55


Post by: Arakasi


Maybe put it on its own tripod stand on the other side. Perhaps even have it lower, but angled up like a mortar? Or just have it stick out sideways over the empty space - but with some extra support... Only suggestions really - it looks great as is.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/15 02:52:00


Post by: The Good Green


Awesome crew! I like the driver's one driving glove.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/22 10:01:49


Post by: DamienOfTheWRAAAGH


Supaa Cewl
Its all awesome
subscribed


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/29 04:13:42


Post by: monkeytroll


Krew look great, I love that robed pump-wagon dude, been agonising over how to cyberise him and think I'm going to have to go with a bit of a cop-out plan.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/29 05:00:14


Post by: MajorTom11


Looking great ck... I used to paint gobbos back in the day purely because they have so much character... Def makes me nostalgic... You and proiteus are reall pumping out quality stuff in the 'field'!

I see you are plenty comfortable with the powders now too btw - I'm not sure I ever told you, but you can fix them without muddying them by using either mig pigment fixer or whit spirits... You just load your brush a touch, then touch it to the powders, they will suck it right out of the brush, and when dry, be stuck on with no matte or glossy side effects. Something I only started doing recently myself after seeing mathieu Fontaine do it.

Btw, did you see my request on the sr thread *ork puppy dog face* ?



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/29 06:36:15


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Boyz "R" Us: thanks!

Arakasi: Right now, the turret can turn (I might even add some kind of mechanism underneath), and removing the rokkits from the turret or adding extra supports kinda takes that away. and I like my worky bitz

The Good Green: Thanks! I like it as well, adds some style - and it's a nice way of camouflaging the size difference

DamienOfTheWRAAAGH: Thank you, glad you enjoy it!

monkeytroll: Thanks. I love all the old snotties, they've got lots of character. The little robed guy is one of my favourites as well . For cyberising, you could open up the robes a bit and add a monowheel?

MajorTom11: Thanks, I agree with you that the greenskins having lots of character, it's what drew me to them in the first place. I love Proiteus'stuff, and I also like how we both took our rebellion in totally different directions. Just shows how nice the background is if you can make all of that fit in . Fixing with white spirits is something I'll try - but won't that ruin the paint?

Btw, did you see my request on the sr thread *ork puppy dog face* ?


Lol, someone's impatient Check out your thread


Now, a minor update, since I hate to update without pics. My wife fell down a flight of stairs and she has a whiplash-like injury, so most of the housekeeping's been mine :( . In other words: little modelling time. Hope to get some stuff done this weekend :(

Still, I managed to get a kan oranged up and blacked in, so it's not all bad:





Enjoy!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/29 06:43:15


Post by: Gitsplitta


Love the pose Khaine! It's just rollin along... ready for the next not too big, not too tough, thing to chew on (in standard grot form).


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/29 12:45:22


Post by: monkeytroll


Looking good already


Is that one of the Dark Angelz under his foot there?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/29 14:35:37


Post by: Arakasi


Nooooooooooooooooo! ()


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/29 14:42:46


Post by: Big Mek Dattrukk


Between your grots, and Monkeytroll's Cyborks, my head will asplode any minute!

Keep it up, i can clean up after myself when the above happens.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/30 10:01:01


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Glad you like him! An ork seems a safe bet for a grot... in a killa kan

monkeytroll: Thank you! And yes, that's one of 'Da Dark Angelz'

Arakasi: Yeeeeeeeees! Why did you think I asked for the red recipe?

Big Mek Dattrukk: keepin' it up

Hey guys,

I got some paintin'time in yesterday, and finally finished a deffsawkopta that had been on my desk for way too long.

Here's the piccies:

Yes, I need to redefine the hand. Oops





I've been experimenting with wet weathering powders, streaking it on the buzzsaw. What do you guys think of the effect? It's a bit more subtle then the scorched brown/boltgun metal weathering, so I figure it'll add in some more variation.



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/30 13:06:37


Post by: Gitsplitta


Man I'd hate to see that thing coming at me! Nice effect with the powders... think you're getting the hang of it. I don't so much see streaking as I do a stippled wear across the figure.



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/30 13:26:43


Post by: Boyz "R" Us


Cor!!! Me saving up for one of those! Deffsawkopta aka KrocaKopta2011


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/30 13:30:43


Post by: Llamahead


I like the dinosaur/dragon look you've got going on the Deffkopta the buggies are looking great and with that many rokkits the grots are bound to hit something. By the way you seen the Ramshackle Games stuff some of there vehicles would fit in nicely with the army.....


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/31 16:40:14


Post by: Joske De Veteraan


ur doing great nothing more to say


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/31 21:36:25


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Just imagine beging a valkyrie pilot . The powders a renice, the trick is to be bold with them. No prancying around, just add a boatload an shake the excess off - works for me . As for the streaking: I started off by streaking near the 'jaws', but then it evolved into more of a stippling I guess - still, I like the effect.

Boyz "R" Us: glad you like it And it's not that expensive, you just need some plasticard and some killa kan bits; easy enough to get sionce there's plenty of cc weapons in the killa kan box.

Llamahead: chicken of doom look . And I agree on the rokkits; twin-linked S8 goodness is always good in my book . I've checked out Ramshackle games, and... I guess I'll be placing an order soon(ish); their stuff is really ramshackle, I'd love to add some bits to my grots. Thanks for sharing!

Joske De Veteraan: Thanks!

Now, smallisupdate, but one that I'm quite proud off: I added the passenger to the buggy, and I like how he looks. But, judge for yourself!



I wanted him to look like he's clinging on for dear life and enjoying the hell out of it. It involved reposioning both his arms and a leg, but I feel it came out alright.
So: nice idea or rubbish? Let me know!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/31 21:42:32


Post by: Boyz "R" Us


Hehe, I love the little fella, really made me chuckle


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/31 22:02:19


Post by: Gitsplitta


Just thrillin' & chillin'!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/31 22:25:35


Post by: Heffling


One tip on the buggy's extra seat:

Take some masking tape and fold it against itself. Cut into thin strips, the width of the wrapping on the other seat. Then lightly glue one end to the seat frame. You can wrap the strips around and give the same effect as on the other seat.

Also, I have a favor to ask. Do you know of any "sitting" grots? I'm running 9 buggies, and want to use grots as the drivers, as the weedy old ork models used are horrible.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/31 22:36:08


Post by: Llamahead


He looks like a rap star wannabe from an American cop show great stuff! However he looks far to chillaxed to be hanging on for dear life. Oh Dear can you imagine Grot Rap?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/31 22:53:57


Post by: monkeytroll


Heehee, this is GWA comin at ya strate outta Compton. Ezy-G, tyell 'em how it is, heehee.

The little feller seems to be having a great time there. Good job on the croc-kopta too, the powder work is nice, adds differing textures.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/01/31 23:17:15


Post by: moonshine


Fantastic stuff as usual, that grot hanging on is great he looks like he's really struggling to keep on the vehicle.
It would be really funny if you put two arguing grots on the seat.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/01 00:26:24


Post by: MajorTom11


Continued awesome... great subtleties on the pose of the Kan, really nice


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/01 19:42:16


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Boyz "R" Us: Thanks, I feel he came out alright

Gitsplitta: relax, sit back, and enjoy the rokkits

Heffling: Thanks for the tip, I'll be trying it out! As for the sitting grots: I use goblin wolf rider legs as a base, thou you still need to gs a pretty big gap in the rear. here's an example without detailing:


The legs should be easy to get, since the common goblins sprue has lots of these together with the regular standing legs. Alternatively, the buggy driver's legs, when shortened (and with a knee gsed) make fine grot legs since they're pretty weedy. I don' t have a pic handy, but I did my halftrack's driver's legs that way, and they came out fine. A third option is the grot "champion" body, the one with out arms; this can easily be cut into and gsed into a more appropriate angle. Hope this helps out!

Lllamahead: 50 Teef ftw! ; He does loo a tad relaxed, but I liked the goofy helmeted face a lot

monkeytroll: . I love the weathering powder becasue of the added texture; it really brings the model to life.

moonshine: thank you! Maybe I'll add two arguing grots in the back, the fron is getting pretty crowded, and the grot minis tend to take up a lot of space, so there really isn't room for two in a seat....

MajorTom11: Thanks! The kan was improved alot by the feedback from the good dakka folks, before it looked like the ork was tripping it up - not quite what I was after

Arakasi: thanks!

Ok guys, since the wife is a bit better I had some modelling time on my hands, and I finished the buggy driver. I used a goblin body for him, and decided to test out the micro-arts head with it, which fits a lot better then with the grot bodies. I also gave him a bottle, since we all know you need fungus beer to drive properly






I like that he's pretty dynamic. It's impossioble to photograph, but it looks like he's pulling really hard on the steering wheel - makes me regret I didn't do anything with the wheels liek Arakasi's brilliant trucks. Maybe I should give it a try anyway?





A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/01 19:46:29


Post by: Arakasi


It's coming together really nicely. Now, if you hadn't mentioned the wheelz, I may have overlooked it - but now you bring it up - yup - you should give it a try anyway


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/02 17:02:00


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Figured you'd say that . I'll see what I can come up with!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/04 05:28:22


Post by: Commissar Agro


It's all looking good CK, great buggy


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/04 06:34:40


Post by: Northen


Nice to see the rebellion gaining momentum

Again well done piece with a lot of character.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/04 07:19:58


Post by: bra'tac


makes me regret I didn't do anything with the wheels liek Arakasi's brilliant trucks. Maybe I should give it a try anyway?


I like the buggie/truck but Would love to see some action on the wheels! YOU CAN DO IT


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/04 09:05:17


Post by: HadoukenAvenger


Gitsplitta wrote:Just thrillin' & chillin'!


Like a villian?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/05 13:17:00


Post by: Panic


yeah,
Heffling wrote:Do you know of any "sitting" grots?
in my experiance Grots are too excitable get sitting down for any extended period of time...

Just have them standing on the seat looking over the wheel.

Panic...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/05 22:05:00


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Commissar Agro: Thanks! Buggy's finished, so now it's onto some painting

Northen: Thank you!

bra'tac: Action's been added!

HadoukenAvenger: bad guys > good guys when it comes to cool

Panic: I agree; I had to have a dread hold down a grot before it would sit still long enough for a picture!


So, Buggy is finished! I added some movement to the wheels, though it is more limited then I would have wanted. I checked out Arakasi's brilliant trucks for inspiration, but it turns out he rebuilt part of the underside which I couldn't do, since the model was already built and the bits were solidly attached. I had to settle for repositioning the wheels instead. I also tossed in a loader, excitedly pointing out a new target. He was hard to photograph (called in the help of a dread to hold him still ), since he isn't attached to the model yet. Once painted, I'll glue the antenna to the truck and I'll pin his feet, making sure he points in the same direction as the passenger is aiming. Till then, he'll be hard to get a good pic of while he's on the buggy. I tried anyway though, and I'm calling this buggy finished unless someone points out any glaring mistakes.

Piccies:






For those wondering: the dust goggles are a slice of plasticard with a hole drilled in. Then, I added a small bead. I need to perfect how deep I need to drill, but I like the effect and will be adding this to some more models. Hope you like it!



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/10 07:11:40


Post by: bra'tac


WIN!! (whistles the A-Team "Grot theme" tune)


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/10 07:28:52


Post by: The Good Green


Pretty sweet Khaine! I really like the passenger climbing up the seat. He screams "Get me closer"... or rather: not left, right!

Great job. I can't see anything glaring or otherwise. and I look forward to a better pick of the loader.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/10 22:12:52


Post by: CommissarKhaine


bra'tac: Thanks!

The Good Green: the passenger adds some life, which wa smore or less the point of this model: I wanted it to be very dynamic, as if they were steering full pelt towards the enemy. Better pic of the loader will hopefully be there relatively soon, since I'll be participating in another team tourney in March, and I intend to have all kans and buggies (well, the final buggy) finished by then. I just wish it stopped raining/freezing so I could safely undercoat it :(

Speaking of kans (and to show I'm still working on the orange ladz):



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/11 22:18:31


Post by: Llamahead


That Buggies looking great like Anarchy in motion.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/12 06:20:28


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Llamahead wrote:That Buggies looking great like Anarchy in motion.


Thanks!The base model has a lot going for it when it comes to dynamism, which makes it a lot easier to get it all looking suitably anarchistic


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/27 13:27:59


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Hey guys,

Real life's bene a bit busy, but I've managed to do something else besides annoying people with posts over here :

Some progress on the kans, still PIP:


Trying to do the ork's red bits like Araksi does them has given me a healthy dose of respect for his painting skills; pretty hard! It's also hard to see on these pics, but once I got it more or less finished I'll post up a pic of 'da dark angel' in all his beautiful agony

Then, a group shot of (most of) my remaining grots, which all got two stages of skin done:



Not all that clear, but just to show I've been busy

And to finish off, some more finished grots:


And here's a pic of the conversion and the parent model. You'll also see an evolution in weathering, due to me starting to use weathering powders:


Enjoy!





A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/27 13:47:02


Post by: Gitsplitta


Lookin' great CK! Lovin' dem grotz!!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/27 14:08:56


Post by: MajorTom11


Looking good CK, is this the final stretch for this army?

Idea for you - have you thought about giving the skin a 1:1 green/ yellow wash? Only on some, you could change the ratio a bit and it could add some easy and subtle skin tone difference. Heck you could even try othe colors too! That and a tranluscent redding ting to so Moses and tips of ears maybe?

I only suggest because you've got a huge army there, so it could be cool to vary things a bit, but I madesure it would be an easy and quick thing to do if you like the sound of it!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/27 16:07:57


Post by: Boyz "R" Us


Great Kanz CK, love the colouring and the dynamic poses


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/27 19:34:33


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Thanks! I'm over half now with the grots

MajorTom11: Thanks!
Looking good CK, is this the final stretch for this army?


Yes and no. Together with a deffkopta, a buggy and all of my elites, it's the final stretch to 1750 (sounds depressing when described like that, actually). I intend to bring the list up to 2K with a dread, some more burnagrots, and some other stuff, and after that the army will be finished bar some fun projects. I've had a stompa lying around since August that I want to do something funny with, I'd love to make counts-as stormboyz with winged squigs, etc...But I need those 1750 points first. I've decided to ditch the moviegrot lootas, so that means building 5 more looted drones or servitors. Those are pretty high on the list, since we've got a club tourney March 13th. I won't have everything painted, but everything fully built should be possible.

Idea for you - have you thought about giving the skin a 1:1 green/ yellow wash? Only on some, you could change the ratio a bit and it could add some easy and subtle skin tone difference. Heck you could even try othe colors too! That and a tranluscent redding ting to so Moses and tips of ears maybe?

I only suggest because you've got a huge army there, so it could be cool to vary things a bit, but I madesure it would be an easy and quick thing to do if you like the sound of it!


Hmm nice idea, I'll try it on a few in this batch, see what it gives! There are a few in there with a thraka green wash, but I kind a like the rougher effect without the wash as well - but variation sounds like plan, thanks

Boyz "R" Us: Thanks; I purposefully added some different poses. my first three were basically stock models (bar the grotzooka), and I wanted some more action with my next batch

Oh, and a piccie I forgot to add: I finally finished my warboss' bosspole. The ork skull is on a hook and removable, since I drilled out the chains, allowing me to add trophies as he earns them. Grotskull still needs an Eldar helmet and some Spess mehreenz as well, but I need to source a few first.

So, da boss with a bosspole (pic above without auto-adjust, pic below with):





He'll be getting more trophies as he progresses! (levels up )



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/27 20:19:54


Post by: sum1thtdiesalot


That is one sweet warboss. Is he ascratchbuild/conversion? Also I really like the orange and blue color combination. Can't wait to see more heads on those chains! Keep up the great work


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/27 22:32:34


Post by: Arakasi


Looking good - especially those finished grotz. Not sure if I'm looking forward to how the red turned out...


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/28 19:22:31


Post by: CommissarKhaine


sum1thtdiesalot: Thanks! The warboss conversion is based on a Tau stealth suit; you can find more pics in the gallery, there's an unpainted one right here. Great to see people like the orange, and rest assured, more skulls will be added

Arakasi: I've got just the pic for you :



I'm calling the red finished while being jealous of Araksi's painting skills, now I just need to get the rest of the ork (and the kan) finished. It's not that much work, but I just need to get at it without getting distracted .

I also need an opinion. Like MajorTom11 suggested, I messed around abit with the washes to vary my skin tones. here's the result:


The one on the left has no wash at all, the middle one a thraka green wash, and the one on the left a thinned down sepia wash. I like both without wash and the thinned down sepia, but the green doesn't do it for me. However, I'm still debating what to with them, so I wonder what you guys think: a mix, all with a wash/without wash, a different wash... Let me know what you think!


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Post by: Arakasi


Noooooooooooooooooooo!

Ummmm... sepia is a bit out of focus - so I can't tell I have an aversion to using thraka green - I think it comes out too bright. You know - you can mix and match - maybe 1:2 thraka/sepia?



A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/02/28 22:33:26


Post by: Anung Un Rama


I'm not a big fan of corpses on bases.

Is the last Grot your Warboss? He looks cool, but not menacing enough imo.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/01 00:09:34


Post by: monkeytroll


Grotskull looks cool, nice idea with the boss-pole.

I think the thraka is too green for your grots, they're pretty pale, hard to tell but the sepia looks promising. Arakasi has a good idea with the 2:1 green/sepia though. And anyway, you don't want them all with exactly the same skin tone do you?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/01 00:41:44


Post by: kharn-the-betrayer


I like the grot in mega armor


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/01 17:46:49


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Arakasi: Yeeeeeesssssss! New pic with the minis in focus this time!I also added a mix as suggested by you and MajorTom, and I quite like the effect, I'll probably do a bunch like that!

Anung Un Rama: it's not a corpse, it's a dying ork . You know, the only thing better then a dead ork ... The last grot is indeed my warboss , and if you don't feel he's menacing enough, I feel you might not quite appreciate his size. Have a look at this pic:


You can insert funny quotes for the guardsman about... wait for it... now

Seriously though, the warboss is the size of a killa kan and pointing at his next target with a big honking (articulated ) powerklaw, what would you do to make it more menacing?

monkeytroll: Thanks! I felt the bosspole would add some story to the model. And bragging rights, hopefully . I agree about the thraka green being too green, but the mix I tried is something nice I think, but judge for yourself!

kharn-the-betrayer: Thank you!

Now, onto a new colour comparison shot, without blurry parts this time:




The one on the left has no wash at all, the second one a thraka green wash, the third the thraka green (which is out but included for completeness), and finally the thinned down sepia. I'm thinking I'll alter between the three options remaining, with a big portion getting the wash mix since I really like the effect, even if it is a lot darker then the others.


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Post by: Gitsplitta


I had not fully appreciated the size of your warboss before this CK... love him even more now (hadn't thought that was possible). Combination of his massive size, ostentatious coloring and tweaked head position is just wayyyy over-the-top (in a totally great way)!

Good on ya!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/01 18:03:16


Post by: The Good Green


Wow, I don't know how I missed that pic of the nob getting crushed. That's great. I like the conversions on the grots too. They came out spot on. Also the paint job is great. I like your use of purple.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/01 18:06:49


Post by: MajorTom11


Nice! I like the color variations!

Trust me, try a 1:1:1 water, yellow ink and green wash... It would be pretty and make the skin very glowy on the ones you use it on!

Great stuff man, I am very happy that you have enjoyed some of my suggestions, it is rewarding to see the great work you produce!


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Post by: Arakasi


Definitely like the mix the best!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/01 21:09:28


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: Wow, thanks . As for the warboss' size: I always find it deceptive in a pic without some kind of reference. Most manufactureres do it the other way around of course, and make stuff look bigger . I feel the warboss is one of those models were everything came together just right, allowing for a nice centrepice for the grots.

The Good Green: Glad you like it all! The purple is a nice spot colour and adds some variation. Also, it goes well with green . The nob gettign crushed got a pic abunch of pages back when I first built him, but it's easy to misss tuff at the rate all the p&m blogs get updated these days - people have too much time!

MajorTom11: Thanks, and I added a pic with your suggestion. I kinda forgot about it while experimenting .

Great stuff man, I am very happy that you have enjoyed some of my suggestions, it is rewarding to see the great work you produce!

This is the main strength of dakka IMO; a bunch of people who are all very constructive and who'll offer good advice. I've been growing a lot as a painter and modeller since joining dakka, and I feel it has alot to do with the community. So, a big thank you to all the people who've helped out and supported the little guys!

Arakasi: I like that a lot as well! Just had to add one more option to complicate things!


So piccie with the Major's wash idea:


The guy holding the swor dup was done with the 1:1:1 water, sepia and thraka wash. he's a bit more subtle then the undiluted version, but I like it as well. One more option to add some variation - guess I'll have to go back to my old grots as well now .


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/02 00:17:15


Post by: risewiththefallen


So awsome wish.I could paint like u. Also ur walker looks like a atat from starwars


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/02 07:03:51


Post by: Arakasi


The 1:1:1 guys looks best - though I wonder if it is because his base skin was done better?

Try adding some Gloss Varnish to that mix - should give you some more control over where it goes - and reapply to some of the depressions... (since learning this trick at the Tank Masterclass I haven't painted anything without it!)


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Post by: bra'tac


CommissarKhaine wrote:



It's on the RIGHT I TELL YOU!!!!!

NOOO ummie IT'S to da LEFT I SAYS!!!! looks where da klaw is point at......



sorry could not resist

Looking good Khaine, keep it up!

Cheers

Bra'tac


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/02 10:15:06


Post by: Anung Un Rama


Well, now that you say, he [b]is[/i] bigger then your regular Mega Nobz.

The gun looks a bit small though.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/02 20:59:26


Post by: CommissarKhaine


risewiththefallen: Thanks! As for painting; it's practice, really. You'll find dakka a very giving community; if you want some advice or have trouble with something, put up a post ansd I'm sure you'll get some good advice. I know it worked out for me!
Also ur walker looks like a atat from starwars

Thanks. he's quite a few pages back though, did you sift through all of those? In that case, kudos on the persistence!

Arakasi: I like the undiluted version a lot, but that's just personal preference - like some people like orange . All the grot shere were from the same batch, so I'm guessing their skin was as close to the same skill level as you can get. I'll give the gloss varnish a try thougf, you really seem to have taken a liking to it, so I guess it's worth a try

Bra'tac: I knew that was going to happen the moment I took the pic. thanks for the support!

Anung Un Rama: a bit? As fort the gun: you said the same thing when I first showed him. Since it's a big shoota with bitz added, I'm figuring it's plenty big enough - it keeps thing in scale

Now, no piccies today, but I do have some more fluff:


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Arbiter Corun was dumbfounded. The Gnosis IV base had never suffered an incursion before, and the sporadic escape attempts of the prisoners had always been thwarted by the extensive security measures. The base’s location in the mountain range made an undetected assault by air or land virtually impossible. Gnosis had no particular history of chaos or genestealer cults either, and the local population were simple people, loyal to the Emperor and the Adeptus Mechanicus, who provided them with the knight titans to guard their flocks of grox against megadons and other predators. . Besides, only research, guard, or maintenance personnel even knew of these storage facilities. Outsiders never realized just how big the research facility was, only seeing the base levels on the surface and not realizing how deep the facility went into the mountainside.

And yet, he was staring, just now, at the remains of several researchers and two servitors, who had been taken out with consummate ease. Not only had the intruders managed to take out all the personnel they had encountered, but they had also managed to steal several crates containing research materials. The Arbiter didn’t know what they contained, but judging by the dead researchers, it had been something important. Still, that was the least of his worries. First he had to find some kind of explanation for what had happened here, preferably before his Adeptus Mechanicus masters would demand an explanation. Together with his team, he began to search the scene for clues.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
By the time Corun and his team arrived, Scrazza and his band of raiders were running hard, chasing though the ventilation ducts, carrying the crates between them. The team ran hard, excited by the raid and the firefight which - from the surviving grots’ point of view - had gone well. They had killed of the Enemy soldiers and the brainboyz, looting the stuff, and now they were making good their escape.

Most of the Enemy had either fled the hallways, or had converged on the place of the raid. The wily grot and his fellow raiders exited the hallway, aiming for the maintenance areas and the tunnel that led towards the grots’ village. The single servitor team they encountered was no match for the grots, and soon they were descending into the tunnels, anxious to get to safety and to brag to their companions about their feats.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It was Corun’s second-in-command, Arbiter Greif, who found the escape route of the attackers. Apparently, they had used the ventilation tunnels to gain access to the storage halls. Only a small smear of blood and a few loosened magbolts an indication that anyone had come through. Greig had called the invaders ‘agile little buggers’, and Corun was inclined to agree: for an armed and armoured Arbites, the vents were impossible to negotiate. He had called for the backup of two cybermastiffs, hoping their extensive upgrades hadn’t affected the beasts’ sense of smell. The two beasts, lithe and agile despite their enhancements, quickly caught a scent and started following it, Corun following the trail on his auspex. The creatures followed the trail till it came out of the vents again, near the machine halls.

Corun and Grief, moved off towards the vent exit, liberating the mastiffs and allowing them to continue the trail.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scrazza and his band arrived all excited in the camp, quickly gaining a trail of curious grots following them towards Gitskag’s hut.

The mek had been hard at work at one of the burnas, getting the nozzles aligned properly so they could cut the sheets of scrap metal the grots were using for their huts and buggies.

As the boxes were brought before him and Scrazza explained where they had found them, the old grot’s eyes started to twinkle with anticipation. He used his freshly-fixed burna to cut open one of the crates, revealing a strangely shaped suit: it had two legs and arms alright, but it had a very big head, giving it a very hunched over look. As the mek messed around with it, it’s colours started to shift, becoming one with the ground. While this was interesting funny, the real discovery were the systems reinforcing the strength of whatever might have worn the suit. Gitskag immediately saw the opportunities if combined with the digging tools the grots used to get stuff going fasta. The grot started cuttin’up stuff, and soon the clanking of his tools and the occasional curse clearly indicated the little mekaniak had gone into a creative overdrive.

Meanwhile, Tiqrit’s corpse had been discarded, left at the entrance of the village. To the grots, death was an integral part of life: cave-ins, subterranean creatures, equipment malfunction,.... It was something that happened, a lot. Since they had barely had a chance to build up any culture, they had no idea on how to deal with death. When it came, death was often quick an unexpected, and the cowardly little grots preferred to leave their bad memories behind as quickly as possible. When a grot was killed by a cave-creature, no efforts were done to retrieve the remains. If there was a corpse, it was usually discarded, all the remains looted and the body dumped unceremoniously into the lava flow. In their harsh underworld existence, the dead were easily forgotten in favour of survival.


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A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/02 21:02:06


Post by: Scrazza


Ha, and ol' Scrazza does it again.

Great work on the minis by the way.


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Post by: Gathering Storm


Yay!!

More fluff. And this time it's fluff which is about to explain the origins of da Megagrotz.

Can't wait for more fluff.

Also, I never realised how dominating and large the Megagotz were until you showed that pic.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/02 21:50:41


Post by: moonshine


impressive stuff, i'm like the unique poses on the grots


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/03 19:59:39


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Scrazza: Glad you like the fluff - and the minis

Gathering Storm: Glad you like the fluff updfate; I wasn't 100% sure about this one, but I guess it came out alright. As for the megagrotz: the regular ones are good bit smaller then the warboss (still bigger then the regular meganobz, definitely bigger then a termie), the warboss was really made to tower over all the others. So yeah, he's pretty intimidating!

moonshine: Thanks! the grots are a very nice set. Even with the single pose models, they offer quite a few modelling opportunities.

Now, piccie time again! I finally finished one kan, the other two are about 40% finished. I'm mainly concentrating on my buggy though, since I need to be able to assemble it for a tourney on March 13th. Piccies as soon as I have something to show!

Now, a fly-around of the killa kan:











I had a spray accident on the rokkit arm, hence the extensive weathering to hide it. For the rest, I'm pretty happy with the model, the ork draws the eye without being overwhelming, and the angry smiley is something that goes nice with the orange. I think I'm goign to add it to more stuff as I go along, it seems to suit the grots.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/03 20:01:38


Post by: Gitsplitta


"angry smiley" = "frowney"

:-)


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/04 03:48:09


Post by: MajorTom11


CommissarKhaine wrote:
This is the main strength of dakka IMO; a bunch of people who are all very constructive and who'll offer good advice. I've been growing a lot as a painter and modeller since joining dakka, and I feel it has alot to do with the community. So, a big thank you to all the people who've helped out and supported the little guys!



Feel exactly the same way thanks to nice peeps like yourself as well!

*fistbump*


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/06 14:26:42


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Gitsplitta: I'll keep that in mind

MajorTom11: *fistbump!*

So, small update: since I have a tourney March 13th and if I want to use my new buggy, I need it assembled. Since I left it separate for paintin', guess what I've been doing?








I've basically done the ronage and a few layer sof skin on the grots; I need to get the engine and the underside done before I can attach the wheels - and I need to paint the wheels as well of course. I think
I'll be doing the armour plates on the wheels orange as well; opinions on that would be welcome!

Also, I need to get some more lootas done by the 13th. I orginally had a bunch of movie character grots, but i'll be upgrading the lootas to one unit of looted servitors and one of looted drones. Piccies soon! (hopefully before March 13th )


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Post by: Arakasi


CommissarKhaine wrote:I'll be doing the armour plates on the wheels orange as well; opinions on that would be welcome!
As much as I love orange , that might be just a bit much! Boltgun Metal may be a better bet... Then again, my non-RPJ wheels are meant to be Dark Angels Green - same as my Trukks - so who am I to argue?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/06 15:36:29


Post by: sum1thtdiesalot


I think silver would probably look good. Orange on the wheels as well is A LOT if orange


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/06 15:54:25


Post by: monkeytroll


Yeah, think going with orange wheels might be a bit too "you've been tango'd". Maybe bringing them down to red or up to yellow?


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/07 19:43:58


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Arakasi: Your opinion on the orange is always a bit suspect . Actiually, it was the red on your trukk wheels that inspired me here; I agree that it might be a bit much though.

sum1thtdiesalot: yeah, you're probably right; I need some contrasts on the buggy.

monkeytroll: Red is for pansy orks, and I hate painting yellow - except for frowneys! Maybe in blue? To be honest though, I'm leaning towards metallic right now.

I'm going to see how far I can get the buggy itself finished, and then decide. I've got a day off on Friday, so painting the wheels metallic and glueing them on should still be feasible

In other news, I've been reworking my lootas. The moviegrots will be interspersed in the regular grot mobs, and I'll be building more looted drones/servitors. Ths will also allow for easier differentiation between the two units.

Here are the three new drones:



And a side shot:


The one on the left is very different from the other four, but I like the concept. And it allows me to add a snotling . If sniper drones weren't so bloody expensive, I'd add more... The middle one is a bit BFG inspired, and I figured he could stand in for a killkrooza if armed differently; I just like how the skull plate from the dread adds a lot of character. The one on the right needs something to grottify him a bit, still on the fence for that one. All need gs, but I'm keeping that for when I've finished the looted servitors as well.

So, what's up next? I nee dto finsih bot the truck and the lootas, so those are high on the list. I'll probably add some colour on a few grots in between as well, so we'll see what happens next, as usual


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Post by: Gitsplitta


So imaginative CK.... just too much fun!


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/07 20:48:39


Post by: Arakasi


Middle's my fave


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/07 21:03:43


Post by: monkeytroll


Well I was thinking of red as 'dark orange' and yellow as 'light orange'

New looted drones are cool, middle one is the killer, but I'm liking the walker one too, as you say, the third needs a bit more grotifying.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/07 21:05:27


Post by: Jordankeeps


nicly done mate loving the green stuff on it


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/07 21:50:58


Post by: Baiyuan


The drones are hilarious! Thx.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/07 22:08:00


Post by: sum1thtdiesalot


Those drones are awesome. I like the middle one the most. The little spider one is cool too.


A Squeaky WAAAAGH!!!! (updated November 27th - DoomTurkey and friends ) @ 2011/03/07 22:49:15


Post by: Anung Un Rama


I'm totally gonna steal the idea for those drones.