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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: Thanks!
Arakasi: check out the improved right one
monkeytroll: In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only ... orange!  . Glad you like the drones, and the third one's been grottified!
Jordankeeps: Thank you!
Baiyuan: Thanks!
sum1thtdiesalot: glad you like'em! The spider drone uses up a lot of bits, otherwise I'd build a whole unit like him.
Anung Un Rama: feel free to loot! Will you be using them for your orks, or did you have something special in mind?
Now, a small update again: I upgraded the third drone, and started on a first servitor. The drone still needs a controller, the servitor needs gs, gubbins done on the head, and a controller. After this guy, I only need to build one more servitor and three grot controllers, and the army is ready for the tourney on Sunday - more comfortable then the last time I took the little guys to a tournament
So, the upgraded Tau drone:
And the WIP servitor. I used some random bits on him, including: an obliterator assault cannon barrel, a catachan power fist, a valk door gunner body, and a servitor arm I got in a bitz trade.
I'll be upgrading his backapck and making his head look lioke a servitor before I'm calling him done. So, opinions? Do you guys like the improved drone? And does the servitor look like he could represent a loota?
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Post by: monkeytroll
The drone looks good with the face plates, much more grotty
The servitor could certainly pass as a loota with those guns, it just depends on how well you get across the idea of it being controlled by the grot. Which I think you can do
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Post by: Arakasi
Improved right one is definitely improved! Looking less Tau and more Grot now
Servitor looks good - just can't help thinking he should be bigger
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Post by: Tyranic Marta
Your army is insane mate, srsly well modeled, and the painting is fantastic, and i love the fluff, highly commended well done.
Marta
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Post by: The Good Green
The drones look great. They make wonderful Lootas. The servitor i scool too. He definitely needs some radio control antenna thing, though, or something to look less sentient. I know you can pull it off though. The grots on the buggy look fantastic. I love the two leaning over the rails. Having them pointing that way really opens the model up. ps: I'll be copying that last drone when I get home. I got a storm bolter bit like the oneon there by mistake and I've been wondering where I could use it. Thanks for the answer!
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Post by: Flinty
The drones are ace. Looking forward to them getting oranged
I think that the servitor needs a bit more work to bring it together. The metal arm doesn't gel too well with the rest of the model. Also the pose is a little dynamic in my view. Servitors are supposed to be awkward and pretty simple in their movements. Also if I can be really picky the assault cannon needs some kind of ammo hopper  (right, I'm done *goes back to lurking*)
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
The Servitor looks incredibly bad-ass. Though I'm also wondering on how it will look next to the rest of your army.
I still need Lootas for my Ork army, but I don't want to use the regular ones. They look awesome, but I want to do something new.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
monkeytroll: Thanks, I agree the drone fits in better now. The servito's had a grot add and a remote antenna; best I can do, but it should be clear what's going on once painted and in the whole unit.
Arakasi: Thanks! And the second ogryn servitor will have his part in the squeaky waagh, don't worry!
Tyranic Marta: Thank you, glad you like it!
The Good Green: Glad you like'em, and sdevitrot will (hopefully) look more controlled once finsihed and painted! The two grots added some life to the buggy, and the way they're hangin on adds a lot of movement. Feel free to loot the drone idea, just make sure to post pics
Flinty: Thanks! Painting will be a tad slower though, as is usually the case with me  . As fort he servitor: the main problem with the metal arm is that it looks metallic. I agree the psoe is very natural, but I really like ot that way. I've considered turning into a sergeant Harker at one point for my IG  . Still, I believe the sophistication of a servitor makes it move awkwardly; maybe this one has better software? Agree on the ammo hopper, it's been added!
Anung Un Rama: Yep, that's one nasty servitor  . I agree that they look very different from the res tof the army, but I'm hoping the paintjob and the grots will tie them all in. If iot doens't work, i'm sure i can change him into something useful for my IG or something. Looking forward to your take on the drones!
Now, I finally finished the servitors and drones including grots. My modelling time has been drastically reduced due to the birth of my ghodchild and unexpected family stuff, so the army will go to the team tourney as it stands. I've had to rush the last servitro, but I'll come back to him after the tourney. His grot still needs a brainlink to him, and I need to finish the bit the grot is standing on.
Piccies:
The grot is hiding behind the servitor, you can jus tmake out his remote.
this one is still WIP, he needs alot more detailing and stuff done to him. Still he'll do for Sunday!
And two group shots:
Hope you guys like'em!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Neat stuff CK, those are going to look so good painted up!
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Post by: SilverMK2
Love the Tau drones - they look fantastic
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Post by: Tyranic Marta
These things are awsome, loving the range of weaponry
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
Oh, it's 2 5er units. I didn't realize that at first. Is that a usefull set-up for Lootas?
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: Thanks! Since building is pretty much done, I'm hoping painting might go a bit faster, provided I don't get sidetracked of course
SilverMK2: Thanks!
Tyranic Marta: Thank you! The range of weaponry is due to an extensive bits box- and even more excessive scrounging with my gaming buddies
Anung Un Rama: Yep, two fivers. I don't have points for more, and this way they're less of a threat. Plus, I can counteract the random d3 shots a bit this way. They're in the list for support against mech stuff and the like, so I don't need 45 of'em like in the classic ork gunlines. It's worked for me so far, but then I've played maybe 10 games with them. Still, the fact that they're a small unit (usually in cover), means most opponents will focus on the more immediate threats, so they can happily do their stuff.
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
That would of course make it easier for to work on another really crazy idea for lootaz, if I would only build 5.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Anung Un Rama wrote:That would of course make it easier for to work on another really crazy idea for lootaz, if I would only build 5.
For the Tau drones, I could easily build 5 more, the basic Tau drone has a ton of possibilities if you have a decent bitz box. With the servitors, I felt more restricted both by my bitz box and the existing fluff/models. I'd still love to do a second Tau drone gone wild, with a grot hangin on a rope/chain (probably based on a fantasy night goblin fanatic). If I ever build a 6th one, that's going to be it
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Post by: bra'tac
CommissarKhaine wrote:
WIN!!!!
I love this drone!! (runs of wiff da blue prints)
Cheers
Bra' tac
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Post by: Runna
You're friggin incredible, hope the grots on at the tournament
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Post by: Anvildude
Might want to clean up the flash on that skull, though.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
bra' tac: Thanks! Post up pics when you're done lootin' !
Runna: thanksn batrep's up!
Anvildude: that's not flash, that's where I made the cut to remoce the two lower jaw of the skull glyph. I did remove the mould line on the stormbolter though
Anyway, batreps of the tourney are up!
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Post by: devilution
Awesome army ! : )
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Hey guys, I've returned from a long and gruelling journey into the Void also known as real life, but now the grots are back!
To prove it, here's a few shot sof the smaller stuff I've been working on:
And a comparison shot between a stock figure and its conversion:
And some random stuff on the painting table right now:
Besides these, I'm also working on some kans and my final buggy, but I'll show these once they're is some more paint on them. And, of course, I'll also start working on a stompa  . Cheers and thanks for checking in!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Glad you managed to make it back out of the Void. Look forward to seeing the little 'uns get back in action.
What did you do with the left hand on that grot?
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Post by: Arakasi
Welcome back!
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
Alright! Glad to see the Squeaky WAAAGH! is back.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Monkeytroll: Thanks  .
What did you do with the left hand on that grot?
I cut off the left arm right behind the piece of cloth attached to the gun. I then added a bracelet and a hand from another grot, giving the gun, so it looks like it has a side grip (think stengun). I hope this pic will make things clearer:
And with the original model:
Arakasi, sum1thtdiesalot: thanks, it's goot be back! I'm struggling a bit with my stompa right now, I hope to have pics up tomorrow or so!
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Post by: whalemusic360
You are alive! was beginning to wonder if we would see more grots from you.
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Post by: moonshine
HELLO AGAIN!  Dakka just has not been the same without you and your grots. Oh and have you seen the malifaux gremlins yet? If you changed the heads you would have some really interesting grtos, esspecially with the Lacroix family and the gremlin taxidremist.
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
I like that huge orange crane thing. But what is it?
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
whalemusic360: Alive and kicking
moonshine: Thanks! The malifaux stuff looks good, I love the hilbilly look of those gremlins.
Anung Un Rama: a (very fuzzy) burnagrot. here's a better pic:
Now, onto the main course for this evening  . I've had a stompa lying around for over a year now, given to me by my loving (and understanding) wife. I've had all kinds of crazy ideas about making it walk and stuff, but in the end I decided to make a 'normal' stompa. Now, I could've built it straight out of the box. Right? Of course I can't  . The basic stompa look owes a lot to the old (as in the eighties old) epic models. The warlord titan got an upgrade, the revenant and the warlock titan did, but the poor stompa was left out. Besides, the basic shape is orky ands I want grotty!
So, in orde to get away from the 'flower pot of doom' look, I decided to invert the thing. The shoulders became the hips, and the head will bez lowered and moved to the front, more hunchbacked. Hope these pics will make things a bit clear:
The head will go here:
It will be higher then a regular stompa, which doens't really bother me. Also, I'll try magnetizing the arms, allowing for a klawstompa or a big mek stompa.
So, opinions?
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Post by: monkeytroll
Oh the indignity. It's not enough you take pics of him wihout his arms and with his legs in pieces. You have to take pics of him on his potty too.
I like the idea of flipping it, gives it a more aggresive silhouette. Plus you get that nice flat area on top to play around with.
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
I like that Idea. Perhaps make the top of it some sort of landing pad type thing. Youve got a large flat area to do something with.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
That looks awesome Khaine. Looks totally grotty and unlike anything i've ever seen, which is a compliment!!
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Post by: Gathering Storm
Yay! Your back. Let the Grot Madness continue!
The burnagrot is looking good, really nice vibrant orange. The Grot Stompa looks like it has a lot of potential, and I'm sure that when it is assembled that it'll look Epic (no pun intended).
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Post by: dakkamakka
Awsome work here i must say
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Post by: green_oni
Love this stuff.
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Post by: moonshine
CommissarKhaine wrote:moonshine: Thanks! The malifaux stuff looks good, I love the hilbilly look of those gremlins.
Yeah, and with a bit of modification Rapheal and Francois, I always thought they would make good grot commisars
http://www.wargamerscave.com/Pics/Malifaux/Outcasts/Raphael%20LaCroix.jpg
http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/WYR/WYR5032_500.jpeg
and Rami could be useful on a vehicle
http://wyrd-games.net/shop/images/P/p-16321.jpg
And for your Big Mek Sotmpa you could use the gremlin shooting himself in the face as the pilot.
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Post by: MajorTom11
He's back, I thought you had given up on plastic crack for a minute there!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
monikeytroll: best to get him angry as quick as possible  . I agree about the more agressive look, and that's what I was going for. Also, it suits the basically ape-like greenskin physionomy better, always a plus IMO - after all, titans are built to mimic their race, not flower pots  .
sum1thtdiesalot: The flat area on top will probably house some engine stacks and a launch pad for the grot bombs- with a commissar and some grots with kamikaze headbands  . All stompa variants have these in common, so I figure they can go on top. And maybe a crow's nest with a big shoota too, depending on whim and bitz  .
Vitruvian XVII: thank you! Let's hope the 'unlike everything I've ever seen' remains a compliment
Gathering Storm: Thanks! And it's meant to look better then Epic
dakkamakka, green_oni: Thanks guys!
moonshine: thanks for the links, these look pretty interesting. For the stompa, I have some grot general heads who will serve for the commander!
MajorTom11: Giving up on the crack would be easier on my wallet  . Still, too much fun to be had like this!
So, piccie time. I built the basic leg shape, allowing the stompa to stand. The legs haven't been glued on yet, so I can properly detail them. I've also started on the head, getting the shape and place right. I added a manticore turret where I'll make grot launch pad, thoug that one will probably look more like a pulsa rokkit launcher. Still, it should give you guys an idea of size and options. The top is pretty huge, so I'll be adding plenty of detailing there.
The next challenge is attaching the arms, and preferably in a magnetizable way so I can turn him into a klawstompa or a big mek stompa. Comments and suggestions welcome as always!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Liking it so far.
I'm assuming there's going to be varied cabling, support struts and the like helping to beef up the hip axles.
For the shoulders are you looking to come straight out the sides, or have you thought about building up some kind of 'shoulder pad' on the roof space, so the actual shoulder join would be the approximate height of that handily placed manticore's launcher axle?
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Post by: Arakasi
Shoulder pads would be good - even better with a Grot Bomb on each  Interested to see where this goes regardless...
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Monkeytroll: Glad you like it  There's going to be plenty of pistons and cabling, but I'll only add those once I've settled on the final position for the legs. Right now, I can still mess around with them if the balance is off after I've added the arms. The joints will be high on the sides, but not built up that high. Also, I want the arms straight , not hanging like on a warlord titan. I'm going for an arm attachment similar to a dread, with the arm itself pretty high (the cc arm anyway). Right now, the 'joints' are 3 cm lower then were you would put them.
Arakasi: shoulder pads will be on the arms, that way I can mess around with them and I keep my options with the arms (and their positioning) open. Grot bombs will go on the nice big top surface right now, together with some stubbas, since that loadout is shared by all stompa variants.
So, minor update: I assembled the gun arm, and only did some minor tweaking to the basic shape. It's not detailed yet, but it'll do for now. For both arms, I built up joint sticking approximately 1 cm out of the body to allow for movement, and built in a metal plate to which I can attach magnets. That way, I can position the arms how I want, and I can exchange arms to make the other stompa variants. I didn't build up the shoulders too much, since a) the ceiling is a bit lower the the armour plating, creating ramparts on top, b) it would put the arms too high and c) I want the arms to be poseable, which is harder with big shoulders, especially if the mimic a warlord titan'sd profile. If I build the shoulders on top, I'm loosing a lot of room for fun detailing, so that's a no-no.
A pic of the basic body, with gun arm showing the attachment system.
The gun arm was easy, since I liked it. I think the cc arm is a bit weedy however, so that'll need modifying.
Some things I'm pondering right now:
- should I use the chainsaw or build a huge PK?
- How will I detail the interior of the head? (note: not "will I do it?", but: "how will I do it?")
- Should I add some weight in the bottom of the stompa? I feel that a lower point of gravity might be safer for this kind of model.
- Aircraft carrier like launch area for grot bombs, or more pulsa rokkit style? Or both?
- Do I have enough snotlings ot fit on there?
- Where did I leave all my plasticard (don't you love moving house..  ..)
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I like it!!
Weight in the feet or base of body would be very good.
You need some of the old, old grot bomb lauch rigs to go along with that model...
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Post by: monkeytroll
Sound reasoning on the arm positioning, just wanted to throw out the idea
An attempt at some answers:
- Use the chainsaw as part of a huge PK
- Groterati looking out of each eye, each trying to control the stompa, whilst the Prinz-Ups yells commands at them.
- Yes, is it possible to put some BB's or similar into the feet?
- Personally, I think the launch-ramp style would be better suited, but hell, go for BOTH
- No
- In a box, hidden away behind a ton of stuff you've forgotten about already.
Hope that helps
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Post by: bigfish
power claw for the clos combat arm for sure. as you said the chain saw one is just a bit weedy anyway and now you have made the top structure so much wider it would just look silly with the chain saw. power claw for the win
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Post by: Anvildude
Deffnitely the PowaKlaw. Too many of the Stompas have the basic weapon, not even modified.
Though chainsaws aren't too bad. After all, the TCCW on my own skratchbuilt Stompa's a Chainsaw^2.
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
Wow, that looks really, really cool. I'm tempted to steal the idea for my own Stompa. I always wanted mine to be a stage for the old Goff rocker models I once bought and this seems like good way to pull it off. Although I really don't see how I could build him a pair of decent looking legs.
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Post by: whalemusic360
I didn't think I was going to like the upside down stompa. Got that one wrong
I think some grot bombs up top would be really cool. Maybe a landing pad for some grot deffcoptas
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Post by: The Good Green
Oh, that's nice. I like that a lot, actually. It has a much more orky look (as in, it looks more like an ork) than the standard configuration for the kit.
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Post by: ChaplainTed
loving the stompa! always had a problem with there shape but you've gone ahead and fixed it, incredible.
If i ever get one, and that is a big if, im diffenetly gunna invert it  thanks
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Post by: mullet_steve
you should modify the head to look more grot like, big ears and a mahoosive hooked nose. Very nice work so far.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: Glad you like it! I'll definitely be adding some with to the one foot that is still open. There's also a blank plate on his belly, so I can always perfrom some stomach surgery to add some weight; that should lower the COG as well. Do you have pics of the old pulsa rokkits?
monkeytroll: Idea was good, just not in my configuration
- Use the chainsaw as part of a huge PK
- Groterati looking out of each eye, each trying to control the stompa, whilst the Prinz-Ups yells commands at them.
- Yes, is it possible to put some BB's or similar into the feet?
- Personally, I think the launch-ramp style would be better suited, but hell, go for BOTH
- No
- In a box, hidden away behind a ton of stuff you've forgotten about already.
- Nice idea, I'll be going with that!
- Groterati and Prinz-Ups - love those names. Incidentally, a grot fits through the eyes , so I'm going to have a groterati hanging out and shouting
- will be done!
- Launch ramp would be nice, but then I'd waste the chain-pulling system that's normally for the feet.
- I'm afraid you're right - time to order a new bunch!
- Behind the wife's sewing machine, but you were pretty close
bigfish: I agree the regular chainsaw will be weedy. Especially with the biggerizing of the arm I did.
Anvildude: I agree, orks are all about variety! Do you have pics of your stompa? Couldn't find any in the gallery.
Anung Un Rama: Plenty of room on top for a stage. If you really wanted to, you could build in some small boxes and hide an mp3 player in it somewhere  .
Although I really don't see how I could build him a pair of decent looking legs.
Is there something you dislike about mine? The hardest part on the legs are susually feet, but since I could recycle the stompa's feet... If it's about the bits: you ncould easily build a silmilar shape out of plasticard, so that shouldn't hold you back. I was just lazy, and since I converted all my chimera turrets...
whalemusic360: Glad you feel like that  . I'm thinking about making the grot bomb into kamikaze jets, so a launch platform is still in!
The Good Green: Thanks! Mkaing it look more orky was definitely the idea. All races build titans like them, so I figured the greenskins would do the same. Gork is not a flowerpot!
ChaplainTed: Thanks! And: what's holding you back?
OK, piccie time again. I built up the right upper arm. Which took quite some time because a) it had to be very solid and b ) I had to figure out how to attach the lower arm and the eventual cc weapon, which will most likely be a PK. Here's how he's looking right now. Most work was doen on the arm, and I also closed the head a little.
The upper arm; the shape comes from a BW top:
And the attachment mechanism, which will hopefully allow for some movement. Not sure if I'll be able to keep it once the lowe rpart is attached, but we'll see about that when we get there. Basically, I can insert a peg with a bit of tubing around, allowing for movement of the lower arm; stolen from the SM's dread arms, basically. The upper arm can still rotate, and I'll only close the top once I'm sure the lower doens't need counterweighting, sinc eI'd like to keep the movable arm as a feature.
So, opinions? Do you guys think keeping it moveable will work out?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
CommissarKhaine wrote:Gitsplitta: Do you have pics of the old pulsa rokkits? Better than that... I have a couple! I'll post pics tonight or tomorrow morning from home. Gits
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Post by: monkeytroll
I certainly like the idea of keeping it moveable.
I'd guess at that size, the weight might make it harder to keep it in place. Maybe a series of magnets around the axle of the elbow-joint, so you'd have four or five different positions it could be posed in? (Think that makes sense, but then again, I know what I'm trying to say  )
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Post by: Lord Poison
a master blaster? can't we all just get beyond thunderdome?!
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Post by: Big Mek Dattrukk
GRR! Critical mass reached in all lobes! Melt down eminan *BOOOM*
great, know i have to clean grey matter off the walls again.
you should let forgeworld make a cast of that so they can fix their flower pots.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: looking forward to the pics!
monkeytroll: Made perfect sense to me - but I'm crazy  . I'm going to try something like that, but with magnets on one side only. That way, it can move real smooth - if it works. The weight of the arm is a bit of an issue here, I hope I'll be able to keep the shoulder posable...
Lord Poison: No
Big Mek Dattrukk: You should go and see monkeytroll for the brain thingy, I'm sure he can fix it  .
Now, cc arm update! I got the basic shape finished, turning the weedy chainsaw into a decent looking PK. I managed to keep the arm movable at shoulder, elbow and wrist so far, but the shoulder may have to go if the magnets can't keep it posable - only time will tell.
So, some pics of the stompa with his shiny new arm:
I like the orkiness it adds to the total profile. Now, I'll be detailing the torso and adding weight to the feet and the lower torso. After that, it's time to detail the cc arm and try to fit in enough counterweight to keep it posable on all joints - I'll update as I progress!
And to prove the arm is posable (with the first - but not the last- moving piston on the stompa!):
Now he can reall reach out and touch his opponents
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Post by: Remulus
I have a question, are you going to use your Grotz to count as ork boyz, or grots?
Other then that, a squeaky Waagh sounds awsome!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Looking great Khaine... nice work on that arm, wow.
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
It's not I don't like your legs, I just don't think I could build anything decent looking myself.
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Post by: KingCracker
Very cool concept on the stompa, I love it when people take something and add a different twist using the same basic kit
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Post by: monkeytroll
Good job on that arm, and you're right, the profile definitely looks orky now
Silly me, for some reason I was only thinking of a poseable elbow, should have realised you'd go for wrist and shoulder too
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Post by: The Good Green
The arm is amazing. That it is so posable is epic win. I like the PKness of it too. Also, excellent use of new and old trukk bitz.
I think I will have to hold you responsible if I ever buy one of those kits.
Say, have you thought about what to do with the chain-ankle bit of the "underside"? It just occured to me the chains (and the imagined mechanize that works them) could be used to launch fightaz or koptaz from the shoulders.
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Post by: bigfish
I Like it  , when you said power claw before i thought you were actually going to scatch build a power claw like thing based on the up scaled ork boyz one. That said this is fricka frakin awesome as is, so it does'nt matter that much.
(i think the cc arms shoulder would be a good place for any super rokits or grot bombs you might want, it just looks like thats were they would go to me)
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Remulus: Thanks! The grots use the ork codex, with a few ork units tossed in, but represented by conversions.
here's a megagrot (=meganob):
And here's a burnagrot (= burnaboy)
And this is my warboss in mega-armour:
If you want a list, you can find it here.
Gitsplitta: Thanks! The thumb part may serve as inspiration for project W
Anung Un Rama: Plasticard building is about geometry and patience. With orks, it's also about an extensive bitzbox
KingCracker: Thank you! Turns out the stompa kit is salvageable after all
monkeytroll: I'm quite glad with how he's looking like a big greenskin  . Turning the head into something grotty is pretty much impossible though; a big nose and ears would look really silly. And I kinda like this face  . The wrist and shoulder is just to see how far I can push it before physics come around and bites me in the rear end
The Good Green: Thank you, now let's hope I can keep the posability. The weight of the forearm is definitely an issue here, I'll have to weigh down the shoulder bit a lot. Due to leverage, I'll need about 4 times the weight of the front arm... And for the record: no trukk bitz involved, just a few BW wheels and BW roof bitz. Still, the trukk is a cool piece of kit though, don't let that hold you back  .
I'm intending to use one of the chain tracks for the grot rokkit launch area, but I'm still figuring that bit out. For the second one, maybe a movable lookout post with a big shoota? Launching rokkits/deffkoptas with the chains is an interesting concept though - I'll have to keep that in mind, thanks!!
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Post by: KingCracker
Grot armies are just awesome, and could very easily happen  Great work so far
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I just love this army...
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Post by: Runna
This is always a cool article to check on, I'm really happy to know your back to it. Love these grots man, your army makes me endeavor better painting on my own gretchin. They thank you.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
King Cracker: thanks!
Gitsplitta: thank you!
Runna: Thanks, and you stated exactly why I came to dakka in the first place: to improve. So: make those gretchin proud!
Now, for some less good news: while I was fiddling with keeping the elbow movavle, my stompa cc arm broke at the elbow. And I'm out of glue  . Still, it's not all bad. After I got a little tantrum out of the way, I realized the bond wouldn't have been strong enough to withstand transporting and gaming with it. So, I had a bit of a rethink, and my second attempt will involve a big nut and bolt straight through the elbow, tightened to prevent it slipping. I'll also use the rubber bands put inside hoses to prevent it slipping. Hopefully, i'll be able to put up pics tomorrow.
In the meantime, here's some pics of the head. I should be able to fir 4 or 5 grots in there, after I built up the inside. Painting it is gonna be hell though...
Also, I painted a bit since I was out of glue, so here are some WIPS:
I like the blue and orange contrast on the rokkit buggy, quite striking. Now, it's off to bed for a goodnight's sleep. I hope to get back to you with an improved stompa arm - and some glue
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Post by: Gitsplitta
They look awesome man... *sniffle*... just lovely.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta wrote:They look awesome man... *sniffle*... just lovely.
thanks
Now, since I'm stocked up again on glue, I fixed the arm up - it can even be put in different positions now  . I also adde some smokestacks. basic shape is done I think, bar the top. For the cc arm and the legs, it's detailing time.
Some piccies, one with a grot for scale:
side view:
And one of the inside of the head. It's shown with a based grot here to give you an idea of the size. I figure 3 or 4 unbased grots should fit in there:
Now, it's time for detailing and the topside!
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Post by: monkeytroll
That's all coming together in a most impressive way
The top of the head looks pretty interesting, although I think you might want to put the 'inside head' shot up rather than just re-posting the previous pic
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
monkeytroll wrote:That's all coming together in a most impressive way
The top of the head looks pretty interesting, although I think you might want to put the 'inside head' shot up rather than just re-posting the previous pic 
Fixed!  . The top of the head was quite a hassle, since I had to bend the plasticard to fit, and then match it with bits to keep it in shape. Still, it's getting there and I'll add some more stuff so it fits even better.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Ah, now I can see him
Should be plenty of room for some grotty goodness in there.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
monkeytroll wrote:Ah, now I can see him
Should be plenty of room for some grotty goodness in there.
I certainly hope so  . I want to add a grot in a seat, being all princeps-like. And probably a grot hanging out of one of the eyes eithe rbeing held or pushed by another grot. And maybe a tech-grot? And a snotling up to some mischief, of course
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Post by: The Good Green
That is looking superb. You certainly do have your work cut out, painting wise... unless you can take *cough*rip*cough* that face plate off? So that it is easily replaced, of course.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
The Good Green wrote:That is looking superb. You certainly do have your work cut out, painting wise... unless you can take *cough*rip*cough* that face plate off? So that it is easily replaced, of course.
Taking off the faceplate is quite hopeless, I'm araid. I have, hower a kunnin' plan  . I'm just going to assemble and paint the models outside of the stompa, and add them once the inside has had a nice, weathered coat of orange. Problem solved
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Post by: monkeytroll
Ok, so I can get piane=paint, and odels=models, but tehg rto has me stumped
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
monkeytroll wrote:Ok, so I can get piane=paint, and odels=models, but tehg rto has me stumped 
fixed - my wife's laptop hates me
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Post by: monkeytroll
lol
And now my post looks like the blatherings of a madman
Oh, wait..
The grots painted the inside orange too? They must have their own orange paint factory hidden amongst the mek shacks.
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Post by: mullet_steve
they are cunning these grots.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
monkeytroll: of course they do. Well, paint... they put in a paint pot, toss in a grenade, and everything is painted
mullet_steve: yes, yes they are
Now piccie time! I finished my buggy, so I figured I'd show you. I'll also be adding it in Arakasi's trukk rally, of course.
The second pic shows off the grot's helmet - I think I'll be doing all those helmets in ornage, since I kinda like the effect.
Enjoy!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Love that... just love it!
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
That is one cool buggy! Love it!
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Post by: MeatShield
It's fantastic and I want one. I think you should add some kind of plates to the caves to make them look a little tougher and maybe a little sturdier. This models is going to really add to your army!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: Thanks!
sum1thtdiesalot: Yep, kinda beats the old GW rust bucket  . The trukk is a really nice kit!
MeatShield: You can convert one  . What do you mean with the 'caves'? But, just to make a point: buggies are AV10 open-topped, no need for sturdiness  .
This models is going to really add to your army!
Yeah, I feel like redoing my two older buggies now... The conversion work on this one is definitely on another level... That's what you get when you do over a year on one fast attack slot
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
And a cyberdakkagrot for waagh dakka:
showing of the kGB (Kustom Grot Blasta):
With the squeaky waagh, I definitely wanted a grot for waagh dakka. This model represents me, ready to 'upgrade' a model and rummaging to all kinds of crap for useful bitz  . The big gun is there because in shooter games, I like either heavy firepower or sniping, so this blasta does both. For those wondering: the little grot is made up of 25 parts + gs
The main question is: where will I add the danger stripes? Maybe on the legs? Or the right shoulder pad?
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
Love it! Is this your Big Mek?
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Post by: Thortek
This is really stunning work.
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Post by: bigfish
where do you post the cyber grots for the waaargh?
i have started making mine but i am just a bit confused about where they go
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Post by: monkeytroll
Finished buggy looks great CK, great posing on the little guys.
And that is a proper cyber-grot  Very nice.
Great use of the grabber claws, that'll be re-appearing on a servo-grot near you soon(ish)
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Most Awesome Khaine!
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Post by: EagleArk
Hmm, loving that stompa, but i have only one problem with it, not enough dakka. Seriously though, grots tend to dislike combat and try to destroy their enemies at range, so just one massive cannon isnt enough. Perhaps and back mounted manticore missile launcher?
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Post by: Anvildude
Use the Kustom Stompa rules, and just cover it with Dakka. You don't even need a TCCW then- just lots a Deff Kannons, Super Gattlers, and all sortrs of fun stuff.
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Post by: The Good Green
Ahha- I see a familiar forearm. That little guy is mind blowing. Looks like the next generation or some "offspring" of Monkeytroll's Tek-Masta: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/227713-Tek-Masta.html
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Anung Un Rama: Glad you like it  . It's just a cybergrot for waagh dakka though - but I might consider him for a counts-as loota. I don't have any plans for a second big mek yet. If I did one, it would include a servo-crane I think
Thortek: thank you!
bigfish: you can post them in the runtherd's thread!
monkeytroll: Thanks! And yeah, the grabba claws were a nice source of legs. I had plenty anyway, so... presto, a grotarii platform
Gitsplitta: Thanks - now to cook up some background about him being an infiltraitor from the squeaky waagh  . Totally unrelated yet quite important: did you manage to take pics of that classic pulsa rokkit launch installation yet?
EagleArk: You're right, he needs more dakka, and it will be added: I'll be making a suparokkit launch installation on top, and it needs a few more big shootas. Your idea is interesting but I already tried that for a mock up, and I think I can beat it with something more grotty  .
Anvildude: Yep, a deff arsenal sounds interesting, but the cc arm can only be replaced bya lifta-droppa - I prefer the cc arm then. Besides, now he shares the same weapon-lopsidedness with the megagrots, so design-wise he fits in nicely.
The Good Green: Told you I'd loot it  . Glad you like the little guy! I hadn't seen monkeytroll's Tek-masta yet, but: great minds think alike!
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Post by: EagleArk
Any chance of a preview of your idea?
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
EagleArk: of everything but the launch installation, yes  - I still need to figure out the launch area itself, but it will basically be a launch platform like on an aircraft carrier, with a kamikaze grot in his suparokkit. If I have room, I'll add a grot kommissar 'encouraging' the pilot.
So, general profile with stuff on the top (the rightmost area will have the launch installation):
And a close-up of the top, showing of the gun turret + lookout post; the (mocked-up) bomb lift with crane in the rear, and the space where the launching device will come. And no, a big slingshot won't do!
On a side note: I finished of the cc arm, you can make out some of the armour plating and a big (working!) piston in the pics as well.
Enjoy!
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Post by: bigfish
looking good, looking foward to seeing this launch platform your talking about
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Post by: monkeytroll
Wouldn't be a proper Khaine Kreation if there wasn't a working piston  Love the watch-tower.
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Post by: Mr.Malevolent
Just discovered this thread and I must say... WOW! Always absolutely loved the idea of an all Grot army and you've definitely hit it right on the head.
I may "thief" the Mega Grot idea (hell most of your ideas hehe), been looking to do an Ork army, just with less Orks if you know what I mean
Keep up the fantastic work. I am definitely subscribing!
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Post by: The Good Green
I like the way the upper deck is shaping up. I'd say (tho, you may have said it yourself) the crow's nest needs a couple big teef on either side of the lookout... to match the upper face plate behind 'em. More the flat plate teef than those tusks, though. I love that the lifta is on tracks. As far as the launcha itself why not just build a cradle of sorts for the bombs, that the molded-in chain would do the job of thrustin it forward while the engines on board ignite, and fix that cradle/platfor thing to the spot where the foot goes... Everything is looking great on the big guy. Working pistons, sir? You're mad!
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Post by: storag
Man, you have my respect!
The ammount of work you've done is impressive. I love the way you make that pneumatic machinery and power claws. The Stompa is simply great
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
bigfish: thanks! The launch platform is still in its conceptual phase though; I've been spending too much time rummaging through my bitz boxes
monkeytroll: yep  - I even needed to add a 'sliding' part to make it all work, but hey, it's a signature thing
Mr.Malevolent: Thank you, I'm glad you like it! The proper term is 'loot' btw  , and: feel free, always nice to see what other peopel do with a similar idea!
The Good Green: Thanks! The crow's nest is enclosed by two wheel guard thingies from the bike set, like this:
So yeah, it has teeth to match the upper plate. The lift itself isn't on tracks, but both the watch tower and the launch mechanism will be. And you're right about the cradle, but I want it to look aimable, so I still have some work cut out for me there.
Everything is looking great on the big guy. Working pistons, sir? You're mad!
Just the one, and it'll probably stay at thay, but: yes, I'm mad - I thought we'd already established that
storag: Thanks man!
Now, some more piccies, starting with an overview to show off the profile:
And two shots of the upper deck, showing the crane and the lift (which both need detailing), and a stand in for the launch platform. I also made a start on the first manned grot bomb.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/276163-Conversion%2C%20Grots%2C%20Stompa%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000%2C%20Work%20In%20Progress.html
It's hard to see because of the flash, but the lift is sunken into the stompa itself by about 2.5 cm (1"), adding some depth to the model and enhancing the 'realism' - always strange when talking about greenskins, I know
Enjoy guys, and opnions are welcome as always!
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
i actually like this stompa concept better than the gw one it looks a lot less like an at-at as in when its hobbling around all you have to do is tangle a leg and it collapses and boom this is more like one of those small stout mma fighters if you see what im saying
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Post by: whalemusic360
I agree, it looks like a really big, badass Kan or Dread. Perfect imo.
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Post by: Mr.Malevolent
It looks amazing! I love how stumpy it looks. Cant wait to see some paint on this beast.
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Post by: Arakasi
There is nothing wrong about realism with Orks, unless it is *not* overshadowed by over the top, larger than life, more dakka!
I think I've finally worked out the one thing I don't like about this endeavour - inverting the Stompa body and then adding arms looks like it is almost 2 Stompas wide? That's one fat grot!
Yep, that was all. Carry on! Looking forward to the end result (and still holding out for a chance to see it all in person!)
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Rogue Wolves: Thanks, it was my goal from the start to get away from the upturned flower pot- thingy. Yhis one looks like he could actually walk
whalemusic360: I agree, this one is more in line design-wise with it's smaller cousins. He also mimics greenskin physiology a bit better, which makes more sense to me.
Mr.Malevolent: Paint? Lol, that usually takes a while with me. I can only cringe when I think of the amount of orange I'm gonna need...
Arakasi: I agree more dakka is where it's at, hence the suparokkit launchas  As for how wide it is: I think it's a tad wider then a regular stiompa, but visually it looks a lot bigger because its shape is inverted. In the end, I don't think the differenc eis that big, though mine is 'filled up' more: no weedy cc arm, but a decent one, big shoulders instead of tiny ones, etc...
Yep, that was all.
That's all? You do realize I'll be painting it ornage now, do you?
and still holding out for a chance to see it all in person!
Who knows... Maybe we should mail/ PM each other for that? I'm sure we can work something out
Now, piccie time!
I finally finished the launcha platform, so the basic shape is all there.
Close-up of the top:
And a pic of the kamikaze grot and the launcha:
So, what do youn guys think? Does it look like it could work? The basic idea is that the crane lifts the suparokkit on the launch pad, that tyhe grots turn it in the general direction of the enemy, and that the kamikaze steers
And to finish off, a to do list:
- finish the crane and the lift bit
- detail the legs
- detai the inside of the head
I'm getting there, slowly but surely... I'm going to ingore the fact it'll need paint as well for a while -can't cope with that yet
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Post by: mullet_steve
Very nice use of the stompa bomb there. I like it especialy the brave (or stupid) bomb pilot.
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Post by: storag
The launch pad itself is fine - the grot variant of Fat Man from Fallout3  But what I came to think of is how and where from they deploy new rokkits...
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Post by: monkeytroll
Looks good CK  All works for me, that second pic told the whole story, could see what was going on with it all
All makes sense to me.
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Post by: tipios
Really nice conversion work Commissar. Look forward to seeing more stuff!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
mullet_steve: Thanks! I figure some grots go all out bat-§hit crazy after a while because of all the traumas, and then they become suitable candidates for the suparokkits. A bit like the death company
storag: That's why the have the crane and the lift right next to the launch pad
monkeytroll: Thank you. I'm not sure if it's reassuring that it all makes sense, but hey, I'll take what I can get
tipios: Thanks! Theres a lot more stuff in this thread and in the gallery if you're just interested in pics!
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Post by: tipios
Well I've been looking throught the thread from the begining, I've only got to page for and my eye's hert from the awesomeness of your ideas and skills.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
tipios:still a few battelwagons and deffkoptas to go then  . Glad you like it.
In other news: I got my dakkagrot finished:
Hope you guys like him!
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Post by: tipios
Nice work!! Love the rust, and paint chips.
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Post by: storag
He's like: "We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious!"
Cool and dangerous gretcha
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Post by: monkeytroll
Ooh, me like.
Very nice, lovely chipping on the hazards.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very well done CK... have the obligatory hazard stripes I see... nice!
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Post by: Arakasi
Very cool!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
tipios: Thanks! I spent extra time on the chipping, especially on the legs, because I wanted him to look old and felt it would tone down the danger stripes a bit.
storag: Thank you! He's supposed to be rummaging through all kinds of junk, lookin' fer bitz - a bit like me
monkeytroll: thanks! The chipping was: drybrush codex grey, drybrush metal. For the bigger chips: a ptch of scorched brown, then boltgun metal. And to top it all off, coat of devlan mud
Gitsplitta: Thanks! Hazard stripes were a must, IIRC
Aralasi: Thanks!
So, after a small foray in Waagh Dakka, it's back to the stompa. I finished off a secnd grot suparokkit, which was surprisingly easy to do:
And a size comparison:
For thos einterested: the body is a grotzooka with the rear bit reversed and the magazine cut off. The tip is a part from the wartrakk wheel decoration. He's a bit thinner then the other one, but it fits nicely in the bomb elevator I made
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Post by: mullet_steve
that rokkit is stupidly awesome looking I may have to steal that idea for my mega bomber.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very nice... much better than the old grot bombs from GW.
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
Great Work on that Supa Rokkit! Looks awesome
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Post by: The Good Green
Super cool! Great paint job on the cybergrot.
Seeing the two bombs next to each other I can't help but think of "Fat Man and Little Boy". Great job with the grotzooka
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Post by: monkeytroll
Nice work on the supa-rokkit
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
mullet_steve: Thanks, and feel free to loot away!
Gitsplitta: Thanks!
sum1thtdiesalot: Thank you!
The Good Green: thanks, I might have to add those names when painting them
monkeytroll: thanks
So, guys, it finally happened... This weekend, the great voice spoke to me. It said:
FINISH HIM!!!
"And will you then clean up the hobby room as you promised?"  Our hobby room also serves as a guest room, and since we're having guests on Friday, The hobby room needed cleaning. Which I was gonna do after I finished the stompa, since , like any good mek-grot, I want my bitz in the open... resulting in quite a mess.
So, I got the big guy finished this weekend, and now it's cleaning time...
But before that, it's piccie time!
First off, a fly-around of the model:
And showing off the legs, of which I'm quite proud (and yes, I know this sounds wrong  ):
Note that the paint pot lid supporting the foot is there because the box I put the stompa on to photograph was all bent on top. He can stand perfectly on a flat surface. No tipping issues, becasue the flat foot is filled with a mix of sand and PVA
A scale shot with a (very lonely) marine:
And a mini's eye-view which, IMO, is a supa-cool shot:
I also built a number of panels for the head and some crew, but I sadly forgot to take piccies because I was too busy jumping up and down excitedly at actually finishing the stompa at a decent rate
So, piccies of the krew and the inside of his head will be for another day.
Right now, I'm gonna let the big guy rest for a while, then give him one last thorough inspection before undercoating - in short, any suggestions are most welcome  Enjoy!
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Post by: The Good Green
It looks amazing Khaine. I think the cocking gun is hilarious... but is it a shoota or a skorcha?
The upper deck is remarkable. When you are taking pics of the crew, can you take a close up of the crane, the front of it, with that new lower section?
OH! I just saw the nipple gun! HAHAHAHAHA
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Post by: Lord Poison
mad max? I know this might have been said but...can't we all just get beyond thunderdome?!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very, very cool!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Impressive. Most impressive.
Very nice CK, that looks superb. Full of little details to keep noticing
Everything works well on the top without overcrowding it, that elevator looks the bomb (sorry, couldn't resist)
Some lovely detailing on the exhausts, I don't think we've seen a rear view before. The only thing I can point out is the right back looks a little empty compared to the rest. I know it's good to have some clear space, but I can't help thinking there should be a bit of loose wiring/cabling coming from that little hatch-thing, but you know, that's probably just my wire fetish coming into play
Is there a hole on what was the top? Is there an opportunity to get some grots hanging out the bottom there? Not that I think it needs it, but who can resist squabbling grots hanging under a giant mechanical war-machine.
One thing puzzles me however, what is this cleaning up you speak of?
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Looks awesome, totally in keeping with the whole force!
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Post by: bigfish
on the last minis eye view picture the point at the bottom of the stompa where the head usually slots in kinda looks a bit "weird" to me. That said it looks totally awesome and i much prefer this to the gw kit as it was intended by gw.
oh and i just noticed the hinges on the armour plates that go around the top of your stompa. where on the standard kit they are ment to show how the plates can move, but on yours the plates are vertical and yet there are hindges... so in reality the plates would have fallen back and be hanging instead of being compleatly vertical.
just two little things that caught my eye. seriously though if gw made the stompa kit like this i would pay at least £80 for it instead of the £60 at the mo.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Wow, lots of replies, let's go through them
The Good Green: Thank you! and it's a shoota. I'll put in some pics tomorrow of the upper deck!
Lord Poison:  ? You're absolutely right, we should ignore one of the movies that actually created the whole post-apocalyptic setting and which is, as confessed by GW, a source of inspiration for orks? lol... Not to mention I actually like the Mad Max movies...
Gitsplitta: Thanks!
monkeytroll: Thank you  . Glad you like all the little details, it's what makes a mini come to life IMO. And yes, this is the first rear view. I didn't mod all that much there, so I didn't bother taking pics till now. I agree the back is a bit more plain but 1) I need the room for the graffiti and 2) there's lot of detail on the stompa kit. I'll see what I can do for the loose wires though
Is there a hole on what was the top? Is there an opportunity to get some grots hanging out the bottom there? Not that I think it needs it, but who can resist squabbling grots hanging under a giant mechanical war-machine.
It's not a full-blown hole, it's bowl-shaped, so no adding grots without adding a bunch of bitz first. I've been thinking about adding the top bit of the regular stompa head over there tbh. I agree it's a bit plain, but anything you add there is going to be the butt of a lot of jokes. See? It's already started  . Maybe adding the top bit of the stompa head, with a grot peeking out manning a burna?
One thing puzzles me however, what is this cleaning up you speak of?
Not quite sure... Something the wife's always rambling on about... Maybe I should google it?
small disclaimer here: I have a very understanding wife - she actually bought me the stompa in the first place
Vitruvian XVII: Thanks, I agree he'll fit right in! This thread has somehow turned into a 'let's-update-all-the-ork-vehicles' thread. I always think it's a bit of a shame GW doesn't go all the way with some models. The new trukk is the exception for me, it's absolutely lovely, but with all the other ork vehicles, I always feel the need to add that little bit extra. Mekboy fever I guess
bigfish; I agree. like I said above, I'm considering adding the top of the stompa head there. This is one of the reasons I need to let the stompa rest for a few days: it takes away the tunnel vision  . I hadn't really noticed the hingey bits till you pointed them out, but I'm sure I can work something out for those. Paint them to look like they're added to the plate below it or something. Thanks for pointing it out!
just two little things that caught my eye. seriously though if gw made the stompa kit like this i would pay at least £80 for it instead of the £60 at the mo
Thanks!  . Almost all of it is stompa kit and plasticard btw, if you feel like giving it a try I'd be more then happy to give you a few pointers. And: don't let GW read that or they'll up the price to 80 quid anyways
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Post by: monkeytroll
"Hey guys? Guys, I've just seen this great bit of news on those interweb thingies. All we have to do is turn the boxes upside-down, and we can charge an extra £20."
"Excellent news, call the stores"
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Post by: bigfish
OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
"Hey guys? Guys, I've just seen this great bit of news on those interweb thingies. All we have to do is turn the boxes upside-down, and we can charge an extra £20."
"Excellent news, call the stores"
OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!!
I can totally imagine this conversation in a GW board room
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
And... piccies of the krew and the inside!
First off, all of them in the head, which is pretty crowded:
And the krew and the dashboards, seperately (they'll be glued in after painting):
And to finish off, the pics for The Good Green of the bomb elevator:
Enjoy!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Man that cockpit is choice!! Fantastic work CK... that really, really sells it! The bomb elevator is a great touch too... can't wait to see it all together.
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Post by: bigfish
That tec priest one is just awesome!!
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Post by: monkeytroll
The cramped interior looks great, nicely laid out, and that's some nice detailing on the consoles
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Post by: schank23
Damn! The detail is amazing. And again the cockpit is mindblowing.
<------ Mind is blown.
The crane operator is kill. Love the pose. Its says to me"Thank you for coming to Grot-Mart. How may I hook you?"
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Post by: monkeytroll
lol
Oh you bugger. Now I can't help but see a grot supermarket diorama.
I really don't have time to even contemplate thinking about that.
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Post by: storag
What can I add to all those comments? Nothing... =/I feel like that guy from "Knight's tale" movie who ran out of words every time he wanted to express his extreem emotions.. so: "Aaaawesome! You got it? Aaaaawesome!"
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
im loving the inside of that stompa it reminds me of the inside of a tank crowded with guys and electronics cant waite to see this baby painted
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: Glad you like it!
bigfish: Thanks! The body is an old plastic bretonnian archer from WHFB combined with old night goblin bits
monkeytroll: Thanks. The interior is actually a lot more cramped then I though it would be tbh. It's amazing how much place a few minis take up. Any progress on your grot supermarket yet?
schank23:
storag: My ego likes awesome  Thanks!
Rogue Wolves: Thanks! I wanted it to look like a proper command centre, hence all the gubbinz. As for the paint: let's just say I'm not known for painting stuff quickly...
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
well it looks great even without the paint i'll just imagine that you took a black and white picture of it you you spilled some green paint on the picture
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Post by: MajorTom11
1 word: Awesome
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Post by: Awesomesauce
Everything looks great! And that stompa is definitely very grot-ish looking, I love how it's just a regular stompa body upside down!
Are you playing them as "counts-as" orks or actually playing them as grots (including giving all of your vehicles BS 4?  )
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Post by: schank23
Grot-Mart would make a fun terrain piece. I say y ado it monkeytroll. If I didnt it wouldnt be done for at least a year.
<-----very slow
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Post by: The Good Green
"Thank yooz fer flyin' Stompa Air"
That crane piece is pretty sweet.
That is some amazing work Khaine. The commanders console reminds me of the computers from Dune or something. Also, where is the night gobo's torso from?
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Post by: Mr.Malevolent
I love the Titan-esque (sp) look of the crew. Thumbs up!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Rogue Wolves: lol  . Since the stompa is also in the vehicle building competition, I'm aiming to get him painted within 8 months
MajorTom11: Thanks! I see you made MOD status? gratz!
Awesomesauce: Thank you. It's a simple thing, turning around the body, but I like the effect. No more flowerpot stompas! As for the rules:these are counts-as ork, using the ork codex. Where can I find this grot codex? Didn't even know it existed...
schank23: lol
The Good Green: the grot in the crane is wavng bye-bye to the grot bomb pilots  . The night gobbo torso is from a 4th ed. bretonnian archer, the ones that came with the big box. If you need some, they should be pretty easy to source; everyone and their cat who had that edition should have plenyt. I just cuf off arms, legs, and head, and kept the torso.
Mr.Malevolent: Thanks, that's what I was going for!
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
Amazing level of detail in there, Khaine. It's the small parts, like the turning wheel on the launchpad, that makes it so cool.
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Post by: grrrfranky
Awesome Stompa, really goes to show what you can do with a bit of ingenuity.
grrr
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Post by: monkeytroll
schank - and I'm not?
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Post by: Awesomesauce
Haha I figured it was counts-as, but was just wondering if you came up with some crazy rules for an all grot army
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Anung Un Rama: Thanks! You actually saw the turning wheel in the pic? Never realised peopel inspected pics this closely
grrrfranky: Thank you!
monkeytroll: No excuses! Start building!
Awesomesauce: I play tourneys with my grots, so standard rules for the little fellows. Besides beating an ork warboss with a grot doesn't need extra rules
Small update today, going from the big stompa to the tiny grots:
I'll be tinkering a bit with the stompa this weekend, hope to fix the bottom issue.
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Post by: Young_Logan
Still going strong, i do love this army, so much character. Loving the stompa, looking forward to it being painted
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Thanks Logan!
I tinkered a bit with the stompa, fixing the bottom, since the bit where the original head went was a bit empty:
Now he's farting grots
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Post by: monkeytroll
Does that make it a tervigrot?
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
monkeytroll wrote:Does that make it a tervigrot? 
Nope, it makes it a TerviStompa!
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Post by: bigfish
monkeytroll wrote:Does that make it a tervigrot? 
lol
anyway, i really like that grot (hanging) a lot its really cool
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Post by: monkeytroll
Ahh, thanks CK, I always get grots and stompas confused. Can never remember which one's the big one.
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Post by: Awesomesauce
Haha YES! Reminds me of the megabot from Supreme commander that poops out units!
AND it's grots!
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Post by: MajorTom11
Wow...
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Post by: WarMill
@awesomesauce oh yeah! It's laying a grot egg
awesome grots, gotta love those little guys. Stompa looks awesome, looking forward to seeing it painted
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Post by: The Good Green
Hey, he could crap out Mole Mortars, like the old Squats gun. It could count as the abdominal cannon.
I like the little grot working on it there, under guard no less.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
bigfish: He's the guy shouting " Walk me closer I wan to hit them with my hammer!"
monkeytroll: easy mistake to make. Must be the grot's egos
Awesomesauce: checked the megabot out, and there is a familiy resemblance, apparently
MajorTom11: Thank you
WarMill: Thanks. I still got 8 months till the deadline, so there's even a remote chance I'll get him done in time
The Good Green: well, I did consider a burna there tbh - maybe a kustom rule to have him laying mines? Nobody likes stepping in those droppings
Oh, and on the painting side of things: two more grots:
Enjoy!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
There's *always* room for more grots!
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Post by: bigfish
" Walk me closer I wan to hit them with my hammer!  "
LoL very funny, cant imagine where you got that idea from
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Post by: ishkatar
The word Awesome is not enough to describe this Stompa. We should develope a new one for such an amazing stuff... Khainesome? Khainmazing? Khainful? Oh, i think it's just too much... Well, you get the point, i guess
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Post by: monkeytroll
Like the bionik targeter on the revolver
Khainiacal?
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Post by: storag
Hmm.. I love the small hammer guy down there =) I think I'll steal the idea for one of my planned grot vehicles
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
i like the little scope thing you got on the one grots eye
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Post by: The Good Green
Gitsplitta wrote:There's *always* room for more grots!
QFT
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: yep  on a happy note,I have two grot units fully done now, one 29 strong, one 18 including herders.
bigfish: grots will really loot anything
ishkatar: Thank you  Khainalicious maybe?
monkeytroll: thanks, I wanted to add a gitfinda somewhere
storag: feel free, and make sure to post up pics!
Rogue Wolves: Thanks. Just another way of making sure no two models are identical
The Good Green:
I'm doing some painting tonight with some friends, I hope to put up pics later or tomorrow!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
ishkatar: let's start a rage
Now, time for some WIP pics. I've been messing about with a lot of models, but regrettably few of them belonged tot he revolution: I've been getting my IG readfy for a tournament, teaching a frioend how to paint with heroques torcs, and I've been working on a few Eldar for another friend. So, in short, not much done here.
I did get some work done on my two last kanz. Once finished, my heavy support is complete
Still WIP, and the osl could use some work, but it's my first attempt so I'm reasonably happy.
And I also got some burnagrots through the 'orange' stage:
Macharius solar orange must be GW's best selling foundation paint by now...
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Post by: shas'o vera
You sir, are a genius!
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
the Kans look nice, on the other note i think using small bases on thsoe grot machine really makes it look odd i think the'd be better off on a larger base
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Post by: Awesomesauce
Freakin awesome!
And the problem with using a larger base for the burnagrots would be that they wouldn't be legal, as burnas use the small bases like the rest of da boyz
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
i know...
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
shas'o vera: mad at least, so I'll settle for mad genius
Rogue Wolves: rules and all... I let myself go a bit with the grot power suits, but they're ok irl, it' sonly the arms that stick out rather far.
Awesomesauce: Thanks!
Sadly no, piccies today, since I've been updating my IG for a tourney November 6th. I'll be getting back tot he grots after then, or sooner if I get everything ready faster then expected - as if
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
yea i trust they dont look too bad on small bases its usually dosent help seeing them through a picture anyway
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Post by: snagrod
where are the rocket tubes from?
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
snagrod wrote:where are the rocket tubes from?
The ones on the kans? One is the stock model, the other one uses a kan arm with a dread rokkits.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Hey guys and gals, it's been a while since my last update, mainly due to me working on my guard for a tourney (batreps can be found here ) and real life. I've been doing some work on my stompa (no piccies yet), and I also finished my first loota:
I went for a simple but (hopefully) effective paintjob. I'm still debating whether I should add some rust or some more battle damage, but other then that he's done. In the pipeline: the stompa, a second loota, and a classic grot. Enjoy!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Gave me a good chuckle CK... good goin' man.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Thanks Gitsplitta!
Here's number two, hope he gets a chuckle as well. The Tau drone here has gone haywire, to the frustration of the grot, who's dropped his remote and is resorting to more traditional greenskin problem solving
I'm not 100%, happy with the smoke effect, so any suggestions would be welcome. The smoky corkscrew is just plasticcard tubing, so it's easily replaced if I find a better smoke technique.
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
i think for smoke, it would look better if you GS over that, and made large bubles at the bottom, making it look like it just exploded up
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Or you could use cotton or other fiber over part of it... start wide at the bottom and taper as you go upwards... There would be a gush of smoke at blast-off and less as it rises skyward.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Rogue Wolves: maybe a ring of smoke near the bottom?
Gitsplitta: I stayed away from cotton because I don't think it'll last long when gaming, and I'd seen flock used before - different brand I guess. But I agree on the amount of smoke, I'll need to rework that.
In the meantime: Stompa progress! I got the main body all basecoated in orange. I still need to start on the little bitz and the crew though, but like him already, so I thought I'd share:
And a lost grot I still hadn't posted up yet:
Enjoy!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Kind of a Chinese grot with a book... where on earth did that come from? Don't think I've ever seen that model before...
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Post by: Arakasi
I think that is a magazine cartridge  A big gun crew perhaps?
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Arakasi got it right; it's a grot from an old artillery piece. We're talking 2nd ed. 40K here, so quite a while ago  .
He'll be used as a regular grot for now, and get promoted to ammo grot as soon as I I have plenty of 'regular' grots.
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Post by: Llamahead
Brilliant reworking of the Stompa it's great to see you back. I've now got an image of the grot running around causing havoc chasing the drone as well......
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Post by: CT GAMER
CommissarKhaine wrote:
I'm not 100%, happy with the smoke effect, so any suggestions would be welcome. The smoky corkscrew is just plasticcard tubing, so it's easily replaced if I find a better smoke technique.
I think flock glued to wire makes nice smoke contrails once painted:

Also be careful to keep your angles spiraling and fluid and not too sharp...
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
I think that is clump foliage as opposed to flock.
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Post by: CT GAMER
Vitruvian XVII wrote:I think that is clump foliage as opposed to flock.
I used both. I should have been more specific...
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Haha, fair enough!
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Post by: Rogue Wolves
forgot about that lovely stompa
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Llamahead: Thanks! And I had exactly the same image while making the model
CT GAMER: Splendid, this is what I was looking for, thank you! Time to ge tme some clump foliage and experilment a little. Any do's or don'ts you want to share?
Vitruvian XVII: thanks for getting things clear
Rogue Wolves: you forgot about the biggest model in the army? lol
Anywayz, onto smaller stompy gits! I finally finished my last two kans, meaning my Heavy Support slots are all done! Yay!
Piccies:
The OSL is a bit over-the-top, but I didn't feel like redoing. it's also pretty hard on bright models, may have to try it on a darker model first...
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Those are fantastic CK! Over-the-top pretty much defines grot engineering.
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Post by: CT GAMER
CommissarKhaine wrote:Llamahead: Thanks! And I had exactly the same image while making the model
CT GAMER: Splendid, this is what I was looking for, thank you! Time to ge tme some clump foliage and experilment a little. Any do's or don'ts you want to share?
i used the really thin (watery) zap a gap glue to harden it so it doesnt flake/peeloff. I then primed it black totally sealing it together.
Do it in a well ventilated area as the glue reacts with the foliage...
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Post by: monkeytroll
Loving those drones CK
And the kans look great too.
OTT osl just means the grots have been running too much power to the headlight
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Post by: Runna
I've recently got back on Dakka and it took me awhile to get around to checking this out again, man, I should not have wasted time, the work you do is awesome and really makes me want to put more paint-time on my models...I won't...but you really make me want to overcome that laziness.
On a side note, that grot with the out of control drone, has to be one of my favorite models I have ever seen posted. Its well painted, modeled, and instead of drawing awe through gruesomeness or violence, its freaking hilarious.
This is still the coolest army, grot for grot, in 40k forums anywhere.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: I agree, it simply has to be over the top
CT GAMER: that's some useful info, thanks!
monkeytroll: thank you! I like the drones a lot myself too, more then the looted servitors atm. I may have to redo some of those in due time...
Runna: Thanks! That's quite the compliment  . We all have our slower moments, so don't worry about it. In fact, I've been pfetty slow from March till now, but I hope to be picking up some pace again with the holidays.
Now, like I said, things have been slow with work and whatnot, but I'll be having two weeks vacation in a few days, and I'm really looking forward to spending some time on the little guys. I've been doing some random stuff here and there, so I'll be putting up some WIP pics till I manage to actually finish a model.
For starters, the other 3 looted drones:
The on on the right is more or less finished bar some more weathering, the other two still need quite some attention. Still, getting there slowly, hope you enjoy the pics!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Wow! Updating from the future
The blue face looks great on the airborne one.
Really liking the little ghost-in-the-shell style drone.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Wow! Updating from the future
???  Fixed it, thanks!
The blue face looks great on the airborne one.
Really liking the little ghost-in-the-shell style drone.
Thanks, I'm liking the blue faces, adds some character. I may have to redo the first one and add a blue face there as well.
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Post by: acidwap
Holy Crap dude!,
that stompa is amazing!... i can't even begin to think how to start something like that!
awesome mate.
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Post by: whalemusic360
I like the idea that one of them cant fly, so they gave it legs
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Post by: bigfish
whalemusic360 wrote:I like the idea that one of them cant fly, so they gave it legs 
agreed
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
acidwap: thanks, glad you like it! As for starting on stuff like that: same a syou do, we take the GW universe, then make it ours
whalemusic360, bigfish:  . I think the drone got shot in the belly, so the grots 'improved' it!
So, Merry Christmas to you all, and to celebrate: two more finished grots!
Enjoy!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Sweet littl'uns.
Nice gem effect and liking the pink nose  Not sure if it would look better without the red base, or if it needs it.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
monkeytroll: Thanks! I play High Elves in WHFB, so gems are something I've had some practice with. The nose looks a tad redder in the pic, it's pretty natural irl (just held it to make sure  ).
Now, onto the painting front! A lot slower than my modelling, as usual, but I did manage to get two more lootas done, and some work on the last one. A soon as the walking drone is finished, I'll have a fully finished loota unit. Only 5-strong, but still, a finished unit
Piccies:
I took my time with the skin on these guys, and it paid off. I've done the basic grots assembly-line style for the flesh, and that make sit a bit rough here and there. Still, the wash ties everything together admirably, I'm glad I experimented with that.
Couldn't get the camera to focus properly on the other side, so those are individual shots:
And a WIP shot of the last member(s) of the unit:
For those wondering: that's a (very old) snotling from WHFB.
Hope you guys like were I'm going with this!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Way cool CK, those are brilliant!
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Post by: Runna
Inserting a:
"You just keep getting better."
quote.
As it is completely applicable in this situation.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Pretty cool CK! Love the remote, very nice.
And hey, a finished unit is a finished unit, no matter the size
Hey, managed to get by without saying anything about dem pansies being good for something after all
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Post by: Llamahead
I'm really liking those ship head drones as an idea for ships the walker is great as well.
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Post by: bigfish
very nice indeed
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Post by: Flying Pooo
This is an awesome blog! Can't believe I haven't found it earlier.
You have such a cool army!
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Post by: dsteingass
WOW! That buggy is the baddest ass thing EVAR!
Yes that was page 1...I've got some catchin up to do tomorrow at work!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: Thanks, knew you'd like them
Runna: Thank you! Hope I can keep living up to your expectations!
monkeytroll: thanks! This remote is probably my best, hence the need to show it off  . And I agree that' it's nice to get units finished instead of random models, adds some moitivation to keep going. And dem pansy Tau is good for lots o' things: as lunch, scrap parts, cc practice...
Llamahead: Thanks, feel free to loot the idea. Weren't you working on BFG ork ships at some point?
Flying Pooo: Welcome, hope you keep on liking it!
dsteingass: Happy reading! there's another (better, IMO) buggy somewhere in the thread, and a few battlewagons as well. If I ever reach p. 50, I'll do a recap post  .
Now, from the small guys to the big guy: I got the orange done on the main body the stompa! Just getting it to this stage means it drank two pots of macharius solar orange and 1.5 pots of ogryn flesh wash... Piccies:
And one without the arms (I still need to highlight and wash those, but ran out of paint and time...). This one shows the colour a bit better:
Hope you guys like him!
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Post by: dsteingass
Ok, up to Page 8 now.
I cannot tell you how much I absolutely LOVE your hydraulics like on the feet/legs of this
Would you mind posting a tut on these awesome-looking hydraulics if you have some spare time? That little touch adds soo much to the final look, it is amazing!
I am particularly interested in how you sand/file down the round styrene rod to a curve to fit to another piece of styrene rod perpendicular to it.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Page 8? Still some way to go then
Would you mind posting a tut on these awesome-looking hydraulics if you have some spare time? That little touch adds soo much to the final look, it is amazing!
I'm quite willing to do a tutorial, but I think this pic will help you out a lot:
If there's any questions, just ask!
I am particularly interested in how you sand/file down the round styrene rod to a curve to fit to another piece of styrene rod perpendicular to it.
It's the round file that you'll be needing for most stuff  . Nothing fancy, just make a nice straight cut, then file away till the two bits of rod fit. For bigger stuff, I use my rotary tool: I put the rotary tool in a vice, switch it on, and hold the rod for more control. You have to watch your fingers though - more control equals to holding the rod closer to the rotary tool. Guess what happens if you're the controlling type?
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Post by: dsteingass
OOOh! wow! So simple! Does the filing get quicker with practice? like, by now, you probably don't even think about it, it is automatic muscle memory?
I was thinking that you had to glue sandpaper on identical chunks of styrene rod and slowly shape each curve...ugh, scary.
Do you use the sanding drum or what bit do you use in the dremel/rotary tool?
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
OOOh! wow! So simple! Does the filing get quicker with practice? like, by now, you probably don't even think about it, it is automatic muscle memory?
I was thinking that you had to glue sandpaper on identical chunks of styrene rod and slowly shape each curve...ugh, scary.
I'm a big fan of the KISS principle, though I admire you idea, if only for the comedic value  . It's real easy to do; I think I can get the curve right in about 10 secs. It's abit trial and error at first becasue you have to learn how much pressure you can apply on the file, but that takes just a few tries till you got it right.
Do you use the sanding drum or what bit do you use in the dremel/rotary tool?
I use this:
... or a variant with the right thickness. Find one that matches your rod, and keep in mind that a bit too thin is better then a bit too thick. Since the styrene heats when sanded, you can 'push it in' just a bit, ensuring a tight fit. Filling a gap because you sanded away too much is a lot more difficult.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Hey, big orange ork is looking, well to be perfectly honest, he's looking a tad orange.
I say sir, your stompa appears to have been tango'd.
Did you think about spraying the stompa? (I honestly can't recall if you've got an air-brush or not at the moment as once again I've just returned to my hovel from work  )
And I woz refering to dose pointy-eared pansies wot has been teaching you da tricks of da gems
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
monkeytroll: yeah I know - Arakasi is gonna love him  . I sprayed the the stompa wxith a brown from army painter, but since I don't own an airbrush, all the rest was done by hand. I have to say, I'm glad I got past that stage for the body...
And I woz refering to dose pointy-eared pansies wot has been teaching you da tricks of da gems
My comment still stands:
is good for lots o' things: as lunch, scrap parts, cc practice...
Well, maybe not the cc practice; swordmaster might be a tad hard; shooting practice then
Now, piccie time!
I finished my 5th loota:
And, of course, since the unit is finished, a group shot:
We'll be staying with friends till January 1st, so unless I can sneak in some dakka time there: see you all next year. Best wishes, and may your dice come up sixes!
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Post by: Arakasi
CommissarKhaine wrote:Arakasi is gonna love him 
Love to break him open with a Power Klaw and repaint it green - yeah!
CommissarKhaine wrote:Best wishes, and may your dice come up sixes!
Except for attribute (especially leadership) tests!
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Post by: MeatShield
Of all the threads that I’m subscribed to, yours is the one that makes me happy the most when I see at the top of the list.
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Post by: Flying Pooo
Those are some really unique lootas, they show so much character. Awesome work!
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Post by: HAZZER
Loving the stuff man!The stompa is looking great at first it looked like a mega dread but still looks great! I can't rember If Ive put this in but, subcribed hey how about you check out my blog too?(Link is in signture).
HAZZER
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Post by: Tortured-Robot
Always love that Blue and reddy Orange you do. The lootas are ace.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Squad looks great together... and your grots look like they're having WAY too much fun!
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Post by: warpcrafter
Holy crap! That's the best Stompa re-work that I've ever seen. I will have to copy that idea shamelessly. By the way, is that a Baneblade turret being used for the right shoulder?
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Post by: Commander Cain
Great work dude! Stompa looks much better than the original imo!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Phew you're away for a few days, and lots of replies  . Let's go through them!
Arakasi: Care to put your money where your mouth is?
MeatShield: Thansk man
Flying Pooo: Thank you! This whole army was about a unique take on the greenskins, so I'm happy that it' working out properly
HAZZER: Thanks man! It's supposed to looka bit like a big dread, it adds some continuity to theork war engines IMO. I'll be checking out your log!
Tortured-Robot: Thanks! I believe George Dellapina was the first time I saw this colour combination, he used it on a bunch of speed freaks way back in the nineties. When I was looking for an out-of the-ordinary colour scheme, they caught my eye. The rest, as they say, is history
Gitsplitta: Yep, I like the look of the whole unit. As fopr them having gun: they get to 1. stay away from the enemy, 2. shoot big guns and 3.boss other things around. Of course they're having fun!
warpcrafter: Thank you! Feel free to loot the stompa idea, drop by if you have any questions! The right shoulder actually uses the top of a battlewagon cabin, like this:
I didn't use a baneblade turret because I didn't have one, but I'm sure it would work out nicely
Commander Cain: Thanks, that's more or less the point
Now, as we start a new year, I thought it would be a nic emoment for an overview, showing how the Revolution has grown, and what's still to do.
First off, a group shot of the painted stuff:
And the, the unpainted stuff:
The stompa is the big guy here, but not essential for regular gaming. For a fully playable 1750 list I still need to paint 15 grots, 9 burnas, 5 lootas, and the megadeffkopta. Could be worse  . All the rest is gravy, but it'll nicely round out my army. After all this is painted I'll still be adding other stuff, but it'll all be about the indulgences then
Happy New Year!
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Post by: Flying Pooo
Those group shots look great, even though each unit is unique and different they sure look great together as one army! Happy new year.
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Post by: Llamahead
Still working on the BFG and it's a great idea for that!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Nice little group shots there
Painted section looks good, and at least the unpainted section isn't just a sea of grey
Finished lootas look great, that walker drone is actually a fair bit bulkier than I thought - that information has been squirrelled away for possible future use.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Flying Pooo: Thanks. I think the orange makes for a very unified look, because it's a pretty rare colour.
Llamahead: Loot away!
monkeytroll: Thanks  . I have to admit I'm glad most units are getting some paint. The drone walker is actually two drones stuck together - they fit together really easy. Maybe you could turn it into a goldorak cyber-ork?
Pic for those who don't know Goldorak (it's an old eighties tv-show):
When it comes to painting, I've done two more grots, leaving only 14 unpainted from my 1750 list (bar the ones in the non-troop choices of course)
For pics, iIve been experimenting with a black background, ands it seems I like it better - or rather, the camera likes it better  . What do you guys think of it?
Now, back to painting those  burnagrots.. Too many nooks and crannies on the dang models... Hopefully I can produce an acceptable result soon(ish)...
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Those look great CK! Love the rust on the weapons.
As for photos... I just figured out how to get my camera to "spot meter" for light. i.e. it takes the light reading from a single spot in the center of the frame rather than taking an average of the whole view. Has made a huge difference in the quality of my pics and has allowed me to use many different types of backgrounds.
Q: What's the ground flock you use? Not the taller grass but the really short stuff...
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Thanks Gits! I'll need to experiment a bit with the camera I guess. Slowly improving my phtography skills is a nice byproduct of joining dakka  .
As for the short flock: it's GW modelling flock, over a base that's had sand added, painted black, and drybrushed codex grey. Ity was the only one they had at the LFGS when I needed it, but I have to say it has pleasantly surprised me.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
So the GW flock has mixed sizes in it?
I've been taking photos for a couple of years now for dakka and I'm still learning. First was using a remote shutter control, then was setting the white balance, then getting a light box and printed snazzy backgrounds, then getting a new light box (which changed everything). Recently I've figured out how to set the white balance by actually putting a white sheet of paper in the box and balancing off that... then of course the spot metering thing.
It's been a "long, strange trip" to be sure, but the learning never ends.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
So the GW flock has mixed sizes in it?
Not that I know, I use " GW modelling flock" for the short stuff and "citadel burnt grass" for the taller grass.
I've been taking photos for a couple of years now for dakka and I'm still learning. First was using a remote shutter control, then was setting the white balance, then getting a light box and printed snazzy backgrounds, then getting a new light box (which changed everything). Recently I've figured out how to set the white balance by actually putting a white sheet of paper in the box and balancing off that... then of course the spot metering thing.
It's been a "long, strange trip" to be sure, but the learning never ends.
I know the white balance thingy, but that's about it. The spot metering sounds a lot more interesting though. Time to look for the manual...
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
....
And, one finished burnagrot, doubling the amount of painted burnagrots
I've got two more in the works, I'll be aiming to bring this unit up tolegal, size (i.e., 5), together with some more grots.
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Post by: Tortured-Robot
Love the burnagrot! The whethering on the drill arm is great.
I'm a fool for details- should the drill arm be face out to the side, as the grot is pusing that way on the joy stick? (please ignore me, sure i have obsessive compulsive disorder at times- awesome model)
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Post by: Arakasi
CommissarKhaine wrote:And, one finished burnagrot, doubling the amount of painted burnagrots 
Hey - at least you are finishing them! (Nice work as always BTW, even if orange  )
Tortured-Robot wrote:I'm a fool for details- should the drill arm be face out to the side, as the grot is pusing that way on the joy stick?
You are making the incorrect assumption that a Grot built contraption will work in a logical fashion
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Post by: dsteingass
I REALLY like the contraption! SO much character! And I for one, LOVE the safety orange color! I especially love the chipped paint/rust effect on the drill arm, a few more of those in strategic spots (where things don't move/cause friction) and I think your anti-orange readers will capitulate
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Post by: Hindenburg
This is insanely brilliant.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Loving the burnagrot... from his expression to the fantastic contrivance he's driving.... another glorious achievement for CK and all grot kind!
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Post by: SelvaggioSaky
This blog is just pure awesomness!!!!!!!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Tortured-Robot: Thanks! For the arm, I refer to Arakasi  . I'll also use the practical side of things as an excuse: at the time I built these, I wasn't confident enough to cut up grots like crazy, so I was limited to the grot poses. Since they're all pretty much in the same pose, that would have made for a very boring unit. Second is gameplay, they need to rank up more or less decently, which is hard enough as is, let alone with arms flailing in every direction!
Arakasi: I'm finishing them yes, but a lot slower rate then building them - which makes me feel I'm procrastinating even when I'm not.
Tortured-Robot wrote:
I'm a fool for details- should the drill arm be face out to the side, as the grot is pusing that way on the joy stick?
You are making the incorrect assumption that a Grot built contraption will work in a logical fashion
I reject your logic and substitute it with my own!
dsteingass: Thank you! Even more chipping? And there I was worried I was overdoing it
Hindenburg: Mad, mainly  Thanks for dropping by!
Gitsplitta: One small step for a grot...  This is still one of the early models, I'm working my way up to the later (improved) versions - who have even more fiddly bitz. If I ever redid these, I'd build them in subassemblies left separate for painting, allowing for easier access. Sanity is for da 'umies!
SelvaggioSaky: Thank you!
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Post by: Tortured-Robot
@Arakasi: I think you may have me on that one, point accepted.
@Commissarkhaine fair enough, like a said just ignore me haha. Its my silly brain.
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Post by: dsteingass
Yes, the chipping would look particularly effective on the corners and edges of plates, where they would get dinged most often. I particularly like the suddle highlights you have given around the chipping, is it bleached bone, or a yellow?
IT may be because it is out of focus in this shot, but I see it clearly in 1., but not in 2.
I think this is very cool, as it looks like the edge of the paint is peeling up as the rust settles in under the layer of paint.
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Post by: Gathering Storm
Well, been I while since I last checked your blog...
Yay! You've painted more of those Burna-Grots (they are among my favourite of your multitude of conversions).
The orange is very well executed as always, and I really like the chipped paint effect (really ties the model together) as well. Very nice weathering effects overall and the flesh on the Grot looks amazing!
So... all and all... some very good work!
Now... please post some more of your quirky fluff! Go on Khaine! MOAR FLUFF!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Tortured-Robot: No probs, and it's a valid point. Doesn't mean I can't have valid counterarguments
dsteingass: you just had me correct the mini a bit. For the record: for the chipping I do a vomit brown layer, the scorched brown, then boltgun metal. Sometime sI'll add a black weathering power afterwards for a scorch mark or a missile hit. I try to make the shapes irregular and following places where they'd bump into stuff and such. I also try to make the different layers irregular in relation to each other. More distance between the layers mean more of a glancing hit, while a head-on hit would go almost straight to the metal.
Here's a shot from higher up, maybe this'll make things clearer, though the vomit brown bit is a bit too subtle maybe:
Still debating whether I should add lots more weathering or not...
Gathering Storm: Glad to have you drop by again! The flesh is thanks to Arakasi and MajorTom11, who suggested a wash mix that has helped out tremendously. There will be more burna-grots to come, but I can't promise anything in the fluff department, mainly due to a lack of time. Still, more fluff will come, just can't promise when
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Post by: dsteingass
Yeah better shot, very nice! Perhaps a bit more vomit brown wouldn't hurt, but that is sooo minor it is barely worth mentioning.
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Post by: Llamahead
Really liking the visor on the grot.
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Post by: monkeytroll
New grots are cool, and the second finished burna is looking even better than his companion I feel
Liking the black background, makes a difference.
Lightbox and background made a huge difference to my finished pics I felt, but like so many of us I really need to go back to the manual (where the heck would that be now I wonder?) and get properly to grips with balancing and metering.
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Post by: Dysartes
Glad to see the Grots are marching on, CK - still looking good, and orange...
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Post by: LoneLictor
I'm amazed at your patience with this army. Every mini is professionally converted and painted. Assuming I had the skill to make stuff as well as you do, I'd still be unable to because after the first couple miniatures I'd go insane. You're kind of like GuitaRasmus in that aspect.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
dsteingass: Thanks!
Llamahead: thanks, the grot head with the visor is from the stompa set.
monkeytroll: Thank you! the second one is better, I've purposely started on the first one built so I could improve while painting them. As for the lighting: it does a lot I feel; really need to experiment with it.
Dysartes: Slowly but surely, we're getting there!
LoneLictor: Thank you  . The grots aren't a chore for me though; they offer a little place of calm (and demented madness) in an otherwise too busy life. They're like therapy, only more expensive
On that note, I'm gonna leave you with a PIP pic of the next two burnagrots. It's off for family stuff now, hope to get something done tomorrow...
Enjoy!
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Post by: SelvaggioSaky
Loving every bit of this blog, Chapeau!
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Post by: Arakasi
Enjoyed
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
SelvaggioSaky: thanks, nice to have you drop by!
Arakasi: Nice
Some more pics for your enjoyment, since I managed to finish two more burnagrots:
And some individual pics:
And number two. Since they count as being armed with power weapons in assault, I gave this grot a PW effect. Imagine being prodded by this
... And looking at the pics, I realize I have to paint the dial on the burna...  So, one finished burnagrot, and one almost finished
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Post by: dsteingass
Wow! MOAR awesome sauce! I reallly like the hazard-striped hoses!
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Post by: Llamahead
Liking the Red Beret. Para all the way.
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Post by: monkeytroll
Very nice
Weathering looks great, and I love the effect on that giant cattle-prod
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Post by: HAZZER
 Wow!  Love em man! btw what rules are going to use for them? (Is it killa kans)?
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Post by: Dysartes
I think they be burna boyz, HAZZER.
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Post by: HAZZER
Nice!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
To borrow a phrase from my 11 year old... those are just EPIC!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
dsteingass: Thanks I did the hazard stripes to give the unit sa unified look. I think it workd out Ok, now I just need to redo the first one I did.
Llamahead: I agree he's looking pretty cool  . A simple ,but effective conversion - berets are one of the few things I'm comfortable making in gs
monkeytroll: Thank you! Weathering is necessary on these guys I think, really adds some life to them. Giant cattle-prod ftw, can't wait to jam that in a space marine's hurty bitz
HAZZER: burnaboyz, As Dysartes said. Glad you like'em!
Dysartes: Yes, they be
Gitsplitta: Thanks you! They're alkot of trouble painting, but the effect is worth it in the end.
I've been painting the other burnas orange, which isn't that exciting, so I'll leave you ith a pic of all the finished burnagrots, with my dakkagrot standing in for a mek to make a legal unit
Hope you like'em, and yes, they'll be hell to rank up!
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Post by: HAZZER
OOH!Love em!Looking good man!
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Post by: Awesomesauce
Excellent job! Those burnagrots are awesome! And I think the dakkagrot makes a good mek stand-in too.
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Post by: Arakasi
CommissarKhaine wrote:...and yes, they'll be hell to rank up!
Rank up? This ain't WHFB! That's in-built 2" coherency dat is!
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Post by: mullet_steve
Ahhh the insane genius strikes again,
built in unit coherency +
impossible storage and transport capacity -
Swings and roundabouts my friends.
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
HAZZER: Thank you!
Awesomesauce: Thanks! I've been thinking about repainting the baserim of the dakkagrot if I would ever use a mek in my burna unit. Still, with the current rules it's not very good, especially since they're usually joined by a big mek. Still, I like having the option
Arakasi: true  . Still, I've noticed that getting them in cc can be a bit of a hassle...Ah well, good they're not for WHFB; I still cringe everytime I have to move my converted bunch of orcs on their regimental bases, all tangled together becasue I had to put them all in cool poses...
mullet_steve: they'll be waltzing into cc
All the people voting and commenting in the gallery: thanks as well, it's always motivating to check out your gallery ands see comments and ratings popping up!
Now, since I'm on a roll with the burnagrots, I decided top start on the next batch:
Hopefully, they' look like the guys above in a decent amount of time!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Go, go, gadget grotz!!
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Post by: dsteingass
mmm fresh hydraulics!
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Post by: riverhawks32
That right there is one stylishly converted ork army
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Post by: bigfish
how many are you doing all together? ( and really liking how these are coming together)
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Post by: HAZZER
OOh these are going to look good!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Gitsplitta: Now I'll have to make one with extendable legs and a camera coming out of his hat - maybe another mek?
dsteingass: old hydraulics, but with a lick of paint this time
riverhawks32: ork army? So far, I've only painted one ork:
bigfish: 10 burnagrots total. They'll be riding in one of the battlewagons, accompanied by my big mek. Open topped vehicle + flame template =
HAZZER: I certainly hope so!
Now, for some new pics. I got the first set of three blacked in again, and got the other three oranged up, meaning all burnagrots have at least the orange done on them! I've been getting my taste for painting back lately, so I thought I'd dive in. It's nice to see the army advancing again!
Lets hope I can keep this up. I've been painting some regular grots as well to prevent burnout, so I have good hopes of getting my 1750 list finished somewhere around March. There's a tourney in February as well, but I'm not risking it since I don't want to rush the little guys. Guess my guard will be having another outing then  .
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Ah but that one ork is stylishly converted!
Loooks great CK, as always!
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Post by: HAZZER
LOL! burnagrot fever deffently!
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Post by: Arakasi
He will be avenged...
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Post by: bigfish
10 burna grots in a truck sounds sweeet, also
YOUR GOING SO FAST ITS MAKING EVERYONE ELSE LOOK BAD.... dont stop!
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Vitruvian XVII:True, he is stylishly converted
HAZZER: Yep, they'be been staring at me with puppy eyes from their shelf of shame for too long...
Arakasi: Actually, I may be coming to Canterbury for a weekend in the near future; maybe we can work something out?
bigfish: If they could take a truck, it would. But in my list, I don't have units with access to trukks bar the meganobz, and they have a BW ride already. Plus, starting out of a vehicle T1 doesn't seem like a good idea with these guys. And I'm only posting updates fast because I do one area at a time they're hardly finished... Though I'll admit I've been slower
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Post by: Dysartes
Still, they're looking good CK. And the end is in sight, after all - do you have an event you're aiming to have them ready by?
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Post by: bigfish
how are you fielding them then?
fluff wise it would have to be a looted wagon with schorcha IMO but if you had the points a BW would be sweet.. (implants mind with message to build another battle wagon)
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Post by: Arakasi
CommissarKhaine wrote:Arakasi: Actually, I may be coming to Canterbury for a weekend in the near future; maybe we can work something out? ~8
Keep me posted. Not sure which is easier for me (Belgium or Canterbury) - but if I can tie it into one of my work trips to London...
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Dysartes: thanks. Tourney season start in Belgium around mid-february and lasts till June, with a second wave of tourneys October-December. I was hoping to take the grots to a few spring tournaments.
bigfish: 10+ big mek with KFF/ PK in a BW with defrolla, boarding plank, 2 big shootas. For a full list: click here
Arakasi: Will do, hopefully we'll get some details soon!
And to prove I'm still at the little guys:
Metal and skin done! Yay! I'm gonna split them up now and start painting them individually - or maybe I'll do the copper first on all of them, we'll see. If I'm really lucky, I might get these finished by the end of the weekend...
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Post by: Anvildude
Hmm... Can Meganobz only take a Trukk or a Battlewagon? If they can take both...
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Post by: CommissarKhaine
Anvildude: Only one, if I read the codex correctly. Two would be a bit silly, too...
When it comes to painting, I've been distracted from the burnagrots. Not very surprising for those who've followed the squeaky waagh!'s adventures, I guess, but hey. I was distracted in part by looking at bitz for my warlord titan, though I've managed to refrain myself from starting it. I've promised myself that I could start the warlord after I've finished reorganizing the hobby room.
I was however, feeling like doing something else than the burnagrots, so, on a whim, I did these:
What this means is that I halved the number of regular grots I still need to do! As much as I like the little guys, I'll be extremely happy once I reach my 1750 goal and I can take them for a spin in a few tourneys. They've been quite a while in the making too, due to real-life issues, etc. etc., ... Insert the usual excuses here
Hope you like'em!
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Post by: monkeytroll
Hah, generally avoids painting then 'on a whim' finishes up seven guys
Looking good, you've got the grot skin down pat, and nice rusting
Love the guy with the chibi-halberd, it's great how twisting the gun and adding a shaft change that guy up.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Looks sweet, love the rusty effect.
And..........wait...what? Warlord?! Please link/post pics when you start, i love anything vaguely AdMech related, especially of the titanical variety!
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