8 Extra Regular Walkers
4 Extra Regular Runners
2 Extra Regular Fatty
1 Extra Regular abomination
4 Extra Toxic Zombies
2 Extra Toxic Runners
1 Extra Toxic Fatty
1 Extra Toxic Abomination
4 Extra Beserker Walkers
2 Extra Beserker Runners
1 Extra Beserker Fatty
1 Extra Beserker Abomination
6 Toxic Spawn cards
6 Beserker Spawn cards
12 Walk of the Dead 2 cards
We're getting the rest of the freebies in April (on the same boat as Guilds of Cadwallon) so please have your address up to date by 31st March.
This will include all the free figs (Zombivor versions of El Cholo, Nick and Dave, and both versions of Cardboard Tube Samurai, Troy and Eagle) plus the optional Eva, Marvin, Claudia and Ivy, as well as T-shirts for US backers that were shipped before Gencon.
The shitstorm erupting over the now-cancelled update 32 is fething amazing. You should see the whiny, bitchy, entitled turds just letting loose on the KS forum for that update.
Talk about nerd rage... I don't get why people are freaking out so bad other than they live outside the US. It'd been mentioned many times during season 1 that they intended to make small amounts of them available at conventions, yet the people spazzing out are ignoring that.
I've got the season 1 promos and I have no issue with them handing out promos at a con as it's something fun to do to promote the game and reward players. It also doesn't go against any of what they promised for seaon 1. But instead all these idiots are taking it personally. Heck I only saw the email update 20 minutes ago and had been seriously considered driving from chicago to altlanta to attend the con because of the promos, and a chance to see a new convention. Sadly by the time I'd read the email the nerd rage had swelled into a tsunami of hate and they pulled the update.
It's sad that when the company tries to do something nice for it's customers this is the type of backlash we see. GG and CMON have been nothing but be open and supportive to their player base yet people are acting like they pissed in their drink and kicked their dog on the way out.
When's the last time GW did anything nice for their customer base? Sheesh.
Well this should finally stop all the Plissken posts! Smith and Angry Mary will make a nice set - throw Raoul in as well
big stretch but it's for both Human and Zombivor and will be available for $10 (1 per Inmate Level) if missed.
and the On the Menu image - Complete list of stretch rewards (not including stuff like the Skull markers that have been added to base game boxes) for the Inmate ($100) and Fugitive ($150) pledge levels (the TCM expansion comes with Fugitive level only)
paulson games wrote: Talk about nerd rage... I don't get why people are freaking out so bad other than they live outside the US. It'd been mentioned many times during season 1 that they intended to make small amounts of them available at conventions, yet the people spazzing out are ignoring that.
I've got the season 1 promos and I have no issue with them handing out promos at a con as it's something fun to do to promote the game and reward players. It also doesn't go against any of what they promised for seaon 1. But instead all these idiots are taking it personally. Heck I only saw the email update 20 minutes ago and had been seriously considered driving from chicago to altlanta to attend the con because of the promos, and a chance to see a new convention. Sadly by the time I'd read the email the nerd rage had swelled into a tsunami of hate and they pulled the update.
It's sad that when the company tries to do something nice for it's customers this is the type of backlash we see. GG and CMON have been nothing but be open and supportive to their player base yet people are acting like they pissed in their drink and kicked their dog on the way out.
When's the last time GW did anything nice for their customer base? Sheesh.
Kind of amazing, wasnt it. I couldn't believe it. Was like watching a train wreck, only reading.....
adamsouza wrote: To keep everyone happy they could just send the season 1 backers the surplus survivors and they could trickle out to everyone else from us.
That certainly won't make everyone happy. There's a very vocal minority of S1 backers That are adamantly against that very idea.
Even though in Season 1 they said that the KS exclusives would be available in limited quantities at conventions and whatnot? They actually said that and people are still acting like a pack of entitled witches? That's insane...
Anyway, I like these new stretches. Still no Wilcox though...
If people want to bitch about season one promos being handed out a con, screw them. For 8 months all the complaints have been "aw man, I missed the kickstarter I want those promos and I'd do anything for them", yet when Cmon says hey here's a cool way to get those promos those same people get all offended. WTF?
IMO limited access to promos is still better than no access to promos.
I hope they decide to stick with their original idea and offer them at the con.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Even though in Season 1 they said that the KS exclusives would be available in limited quantities at conventions and whatnot? They actually said that and people are still acting like a pack of entitled witches? That's insane...
Anyway, I like these new stretches. Still no Wilcox though...
Here's the problem. Most of the season 1 backers were fine with them handing out at the con because that's what they said they'd do. But then all of the people that were season 2 only threw an absolute hissy-fit about it, especially the European folk. Nerd Rage pretty much sums it up.
Yeah. I'm an adult and I deal with it. Tickets to see the Killers in Cincy sold out before I remembered they were coming. That's my fault. I can either buy a scalped ticket for an increased $$ or remember to get them next time.
News flash: life isn't fair. Adults deal with it. Children bitch and moan about fairness.
There were Ltd. Ed. items available at a specific place and time. That time passed. And... so what? That's normal. And then the anger stems from them doing exactly what they said they were going to do all along. It's nuts.
cincydooley wrote: News flash: life isn't fair. Adults deal with it. Children bitch and moan about fairness.
It isn't just children that bitch and moan. Adults do it all the time, and consistently prove that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. No one will ever give you a better deal for sitting quietly and taking it like a man. So really bitching and complaining is often the smart way to play. I know I have personally got much 'fairer' deals from relentlessly bombarding poor customer support people with complaints. One time I actually gave up after repeated rebuffs, but I'd sent so many emails of complaint that one was eventually picked up by a different customer support person weeks later, and they sent me free stuff unexpectedly.
You can't expect fairness from life, but as a paying customer or backer you can at least try to leverage it. I haven't personally been complaining about Zombicide, but I would like a better deal for none US supporters. I think CMON would too, because the postage costs just make it harder for non US customers to back them. Then announcing a convention with the much coveted S1 promos, that no non US backers could reasonable be expected to attend, just adds insult to injury. I really think if they offered one of the $10 survivors free to non US backers (to take the edge off the $35 postage) we would see a lot more backers from Europe, and might have actually hit that 2 million.
In other news, I'm not really sure if I want all the optional survivors in S2 now... Being as there are so many new survivors. And I get the feeling ebay will be swamped forever more with S2 survivors. I can't see much reason to buy them unless you really like the character.
I can't reasonably make it to salute or Essen; if i want something exclusive to those conventions, I expect to have to find it on the secondary market. CMoN said they'd be available at limited conventions. They tried to do so and were met with some of the most entitled and infantile whining I've ever seen. At this point I wish they'd Melt down the remaining season 1 promos, video tape it, and then post it as their next update.
Fact: it's not CMoNs fault you missed season 1 if you did. It's yours. They don't "owe" anyone anything, and I think it's actually refreshing that they're keeping their word regarding the availability.
And because of all the wining and bitching (none of which was me btw) they have now said they are gong to hold off until they can come up with something that is 'fairer' to backers in different geographical locations. So the complaining worked.
I did miss out on the S1 Kickstarter. It's not really my fault, I just didn't hear about it in time. The first time I saw Zombicide was a few moths ago when it showed up in my flgs. But now thanks to all the butthurt nerds who complained, I might actually be able to pick up the S1 survivors anyway from a convention in my own country. Which is good (for me at least).
It is my fault I missed out on Rivet Wars, because I saw it, I could have backed it, but I decided I didn't care much for the promos, and I would just wait for it to come out here.
Smacks wrote: I know I have personally got much 'fairer' deals from relentlessly bombarding poor customer support people with complaints.
That sounds like d-bag move, yet you profess not to be greedy and are only looking for a fair deal? Yeah good luck with that.
I suppose you're the type that thinks it'd also be "fair" to ask Hasbro for a copy of the Star Wars Limited Edition Emperor figure (from 1983) because you just came across the offer today and didn't hear about it at the time it happened. OMG so unfair!
:::play's world's smallest violin:::
cincydooley wrote: CMoN said they'd be available at limited conventions. They tried to do so and were met with some of the most entitled and infantile whining I've ever seen. At this point I wish they'd Melt down the remaining season 1 promos, video tape it, and then post it as their next update.
Fact: it's not CMoNs fault you missed season 1 if you did. It's yours. They don't "owe" anyone anything, and I think it's actually refreshing that they're keeping their word regarding the availability.
I'd so watch that video. Some people just have to be ungrateful jerks and muck it up for everyone else, it'd be nice to see them have something real to weep over.
Smacks wrote: I know I have personally got much 'fairer' deals from relentlessly bombarding poor customer support people with complaints.
That sounds like d-bag move, yet you profess not to be greedy and are only looking for a fair deal? Yeah good luck with that.
I suppose you're the type that thinks it'd also be "fair" to ask Hasbro for a copy of the Star Wars Limited Edition Emperor figure (from 1983) because you just came across the offer today and didn't hear about it at the time it happened. OMG so unfair!
:::play's world's smallest violin:::
cincydooley wrote: CMoN said they'd be available at limited conventions. They tried to do so and were met with some of the most entitled and infantile whining I've ever seen. At this point I wish they'd Melt down the remaining season 1 promos, video tape it, and then post it as their next update.
Fact: it's not CMoNs fault you missed season 1 if you did. It's yours. They don't "owe" anyone anything, and I think it's actually refreshing that they're keeping their word regarding the availability.
I'd so watch that video. Some people just have to be ungrateful jerks and muck it up for everyone else, it'd be nice to see them have something real to weep over.
Sadly there are 2 forms of people
1. Those who ignore all the whining (you know who ) 2. Those who buckle under pressure
People like #2 so they can get their way. Why do you think people like to sue each other for money
Theres a 3rd type who tries to do whats best, but they're rare
Smacks wrote: I know I have personally got much 'fairer' deals from relentlessly bombarding poor customer support people with complaints.
That sounds like d-bag move, yet you profess not to be greedy and are only looking for a fair deal? Yeah good luck with that.
I suppose you're the type that thinks it'd also be "fair" to ask Hasbro for a copy of the Star Wars Limited Edition Emperor figure (from 1983) because you just came across the offer today and didn't hear about it at the time it happened. OMG so unfair!
:::play's world's smallest violin:::
First I never said anything was 'so unfair', nor do I have any opinion about fairness at all. And I never professed to not be greedy, that's completely beside the point. My point was that complaining gets results (it isn't just something children do). People like you can sit back and call other people d-bags and pretend you're all 'superior' because you will essentially lie down and take whatever shafting is coming your way. But really you're just hurting yourself.
If Hasbro want to give me a Limited Edition Emperor figure (from 1983) I will happily accept it. And If I could really get one just by writing them a strongly worded letter, then wouldn't I be a fool not to do that? If I can't get one then it doesn't bother me. Fairness doesn't enter into it. However if I really wanted one, then I would at least like to know that I tried. Rather than just gave up like a loser.
Also the case I mentioned it was not a d-bag move. I bought something which was advertised as coming with a free gift. Then I didn't get the gift because they tried to say I did not qualify after I had already paid. I was perfectly within my rights to complain. They were the d-bags.
If it's truly an unjust situation I don't just stand by and suffer, I voice my opinion and call people out on their behavior. But there's a huge differance between making a statement and "relentlessly bombarding poor customer support people with complaints" until they cave in. Throwing a tantrum is infantile and might be acceptable behavior in a toddler but not as a teenager much less as an adult.
An adult raises their concerns to the issue but shouldn't need to bludgeon other people into agreement. If you need to harass people until they comply then yes that's d-bag behavior.
paulson games wrote: If it's truly an unjust situation I don't just stand by and suffer, I voice my opinion and call people out on their behavior. But there's a huge differance between making a statement and "relentlessly bombarding poor customer support people with complaints" until they cave in. Throwing a tantrum is infantile and might be acceptable behavior in a toddler but not as a teenager much less as an adult.
An adult raises their concerns to the issue but shouldn't need to bludgeon other people into agreement. If you need to harass people until they comply then yes that's d-bag behavior.
I agree that there is no need for tantrums. Complaints should always be polite. But sometimes you do need bludgeon people into submission, even when you're in the right, otherwise they just forget about you.
I backed the kickstarter for more than $300. If I can get three of the S1 promos then that would be awesome. I would be disappointed if I couldn't, but I don't think it is 'unfair'. However what I do think is unfair is that backers in the US might be able to pick up the S1 promos, because of their location. I didn't support the Kickstarter any less I would like the same opportunities.
While I have not been involved with the convention complaining and I can understand the S1 backers belief they should keep their extras for themselves (although I think the most vocal about it are the ones who will ebay them for a profit) and I will not hide that I am interested in them.
I am a proponent of geographical equality in such things, probably because I come from a country that no conventions ever happen and the closest is always an expensive flight away.
Smacks wrote: However what I do think is unfair is that backers in the US might be able to pick up the S1 promos, because of their location. I didn't support the Kickstarter any less I would like the same opportunities.
I'd love to eat french made crepes every morning and drink tea that's only brewed in england, its unfair I can't get those things because I'm on a differant part of the planet.
::shrug::
They said from the beginning they'd would opt to have the promos at conventions, they've also sold them through distributord in France & Spain. Is it unfair to everyone not located in France or Spain? And unfair to everyone who couldn't get a copy at last years Gen Con? maybe but that's life.
People have also been complaining about having to get models on the secondary market (ebay), convention events like this increase the total number of models in circulation which in turn lowers the price, so even if you can't attend the event you can likely pick them up for much cheaper than what attending a convention would cost (paying for badges, hotels, gas, etc).
If I go out of my way to attend a convention in order to get a promo easily spending $400-$500 for the weekend, why is it any more "fair" that some guy who sat his ass at home should get it for $10?
H.B.M.C. wrote: Even though in Season 1 they said that the KS exclusives would be available in limited quantities at conventions and whatnot? They actually said that and people are still acting like a pack of entitled witches? That's insane...
Zombie game fans acting with limited brains? Irony!
Smacks wrote: However what I do think is unfair is that backers in the US might be able to pick up the S1 promos, because of their location. I didn't support the Kickstarter any less I would like the same opportunities.
I'd love to eat french made crepes every morning and drink tea that's only brewed in england, its unfair I can't get those things because I'm on a differant part of the planet.
::shrug::
That is hardly the same thing. A better analogy would be that paid CMON for crepes and tea, but then didn't get them because Europe gets all the love.
If I go out of my way to attend a convention in order to get a promo easily spending $400-$500 for the weekend, why is it any more "fair" that some guy who sat his ass at home should get it for $10?.
Well count yourself lucky, I could barely even get to the location for $500. But it isn't about who made the effort to go or not, it is about us both backing the same Kickstarter for the same amount. The promos didn't cost $10, they were completely free to backers (as a Thank you). I'm a backer and I would like one, I will even go to a convention to get one... But give me a chance. I'm not saying they shouldn't give them away at conventions, but if they aren't going to have a convention in Europe, then at least give European backers another way to collect their 'thank you'.
Some like me dont do KS and would like to have the option to pin point some minis in special events, If a company makes them available to me good but if it decides its limited and I cant have it no problem... I mean its basic economy to me, if its available and I want it I will buy.
Regarding limited edition I think its the most annoying thing about this industry because they use the damn thing way to often and JUST TO JACK THE PRICES! So yeah I avoid them when I can... If they say its limited and then produce bazilions of the minis and keep on selling a bit everywhere then yeah its not limited, do I care? Errrr nope but next time I will look at this company I will know what limited really means... overpriced toys.
If I buy a limited mini and pay extra just to find out 2 years later is still being sold then lol on me I was a victim of a cowboy stunt in my so important addiction... but the thing is - did I buy it because it was limited or because it was a damn fine mini? SInce I only buy what I like and if I consider the price fair ( lted or not) and I have that cool mini in my collection do I really care if other people can have it? To be totally honest I don't.
There are situations limited makes sense, on small companies that can only do small runs or things that are hard to cast or for example high quality super expensive casting that is not profitable in the long run.
Most CMON limited stuff is dubious at best, CMON never been 100% transparent since their beginning, but hey they do have cool minis.
I don't know about CMONs history, but Guillotine Games/CMON stated from the very beginning that the Zombicide Promos were for the Kickstarter, would not be for general sale at a later date, and the extras would be used as promos at Cons ...
To date, they have kept their word on this.
There was also discussion of letting the Season 1 backers buy up the extra season 1 promos, but they never confirmed this.
Are the Zombivour versions covered by the exclusivity clause? Perhaps they could sell those (especially since people who do pick up the promos from conventions would need them).
adamsouza wrote: I don't know about CMONs history, but Guillotine Games/CMON stated from the very beginning that the Zombicide Promos were for the Kickstarter, would not be for general sale at a later date, and the extras would be used as promos at Cons ...
To date, they have kept their word on this.
There was also discussion of letting the Season 1 backers buy up the extra season 1 promos, but they never confirmed this.
Going to be honest with you even if they do not keep their words regarding Ltd availability it would not be a problem for me... I mean I rather see all the Ltd nonsense evaporate from our hobby than to see they proliferate more and more, except when it is justifiable ( reasons I posted earlier).
Zombicide has plenty of limited minis but the mini I so far like the most is the first fatty so I can get it with no hassle.
And this is where whining about whiners gets us!?! Back on topic I think people.
Snake Is good, but it just makes all the more sad about Hannibal Lector. If it had to be prison themed I would have loved to have Fletcher from Porridge or Andy from Shawshank Redemption.
Also why no extra Mall themed characters, though the only shop based character I can think of is Mr Humphries from Are You Being Served - I'm free!....to kill Zombies.
Apart from that I do not see Z2 exploding in its last few days, weird.
It could well be that they've attracted close to all the customers they will attract via this kickstarter, and taht the existing customers, even if they up a pledge by $10 to cover Smith or what ever the latest exclusive is don't really move the bar that much due to the scale of funding the project has already gotten. Add in the ability to add to your pledge after the project is done and folks with existing pledges don't really have much incentive to add at this point.
notprop wrote: And this is where whining about whiners gets us!?! Back on topic I think people.
I fail to see where did I whine about others?
Besides talking about lted minis on a KS literally packed with lted minis is not OT in my opinion.
Apart from that I do not see Z2 exploding in its last few days, weird.
Not you mate you just posted quicker than me. It was more of a comment on the general level of irrelevant whinnying about Season 1 stuff. This is a thread about season 2 after all. I'm far more interested in that.
I've started running a Zombicide game at the Bunker btw if you are interested?
notprop wrote: Snake Is good, but it just makes all the more sad about Hannibal Lector. If it had to be prison themed I would have loved to have Fletcher from Porridge or Andy from Shawshank Redemption.
Also why no extra Mall themed characters, though the only shop based character I can think of is Mr Humphries from Are You Being Served - I'm free!....to kill Zombies.
Arkwright, from "Open All Hours" maybe? Keep the Ronnie Barker theme going over both S2 boxes?
with all the survivors in S2, I'm seriously thinking of reducing my pledge and downgrading from all optional survivors to just the ones I like. So even if we don't get enough for Snake, I will just drop one of the other optional survivors to pay for him. I'm only getting 2 of the 3 Guest survivors, but the fact that I am getting any means I am not worried about some of them not being delivered until next year. (also not bothered about remaindered S1 exclusive survivors being sold at US conventions, neither will I be bothered if remaindered S2 eclusives go the same way. not that there is as much chance of that now GG and CMON have been hit with the bs tidalwave.)
notprop wrote: And this is where whining about whiners gets us!?! Back on topic I think people.
Also why no extra Mall themed characters, though the only shop based character I can think of is Mr Humphries from Are You Being Served - I'm free!....to kill Zombies.
I can think of a few, not many good ones, and not many I would have paid for as an extra, but they're recognizable
Mallrats:
Jay and Silent Bob
Empire Records (not a mall but a store):
Liv Tylers character
Fast Times at Ridgemont High has a lot of scenes in the mall
I can't suggest anyone because I remember hardly anything about this movie
Paul Bart Mall Cop (remember I didn't qualify that it had to be good):
Whoever Kevin James character is
Bad Santa:
Billy Bob Thorton as a mall Santa and the elf who works with him
Still need to decide what I am pledging at... If I don't get TCM in the Kickstarter, what stretch goals don't I get? Is it just the extra toxic zombies and the upgrades to the TCM box?
There is a lot of upset on the comments page as apparently the 48 hour reminder hasn't been sent to those who asked for a reminder so there hasn't been the massive surge in backers you usually get at the 48 mark. Hopefully they do send one out otherwise quite a few people risk missing out.
General Seric wrote: Still need to decide what I am pledging at... If I don't get TCM in the Kickstarter, what stretch goals don't I get? Is it just the extra toxic zombies and the upgrades to the TCM box?
Actually I think the extra toxic zombies are included even if you don't get TCM. The only bonus for getting TCM now is that you get it first since I believe the skull tracker will be included in the general release of TCM.
Interesting post - looks like 48 hour emails are a thing of the past.
Guillotine Games 2 minutes ago
It seems Kickstarter has changed policy. No 48 hours mails are sent out, but for your info many recent backers are starred. It means they got the warning in some ways.
Please also note that CMON will send a mail to thousands of contacts any time from now...
My guess is so many 48hr emails were getting marked as spam by folk who forgot they asked for them that the KS servers were being flagged as a spambot by the big ISPs thus blocking all KS emails
so they've dropped the warnings to help prevent this
Orlando and Sway were you backers before the 48 hour email issued or did you just have the remind me button set?
EDIT Never mind - KS has confirmed backers no longer get a 48 hour reminder email even if they set the reminder as they are already backing the project.
So if you back a project for $1 just to get updates and comment and set the reminder you will no longer get an email as your a backer - be careful of this in future.
The stache pack is awesome. I don't know how I'm going to keep the girls I game with from stealing Rob as they both think Sean Connery is about the sexiest man ever to walk the planet.
Good Morning (I am not in Europe )... Something free will pop out... I couldn't imagine to wake up and read this kind of amount! Guys you are incredibly awesome... A little bit of patience in Atlanta they probably sleep...
I actually don't see much whining at all, but then again since the whole first page of comments only goes back 16 minutes (!?!!) because there are so many, maybe it's blown over
2.15 million, with 3 hours to go... Wow
Also don't you think last second stretches are a bit overrated? I mean, campaigns like this generally shoot up at the end anyway. I'm sure the stretches helped (a lot!) but I just got home and it was possible I wouldn't have been able to check after this morning. With that many backers, people may miss a last second stretch and not be happy about it.
A pledge manager fixes this, but still... I don't see any reason they have to add a final stretch. It'd be nice, but maybe they'll do something interesting at the end anyway.
I too was hoping for another stretch goal, and a tad dissapointed that we didn't get one, but the people in the comments section over on Kickstarter were losing their minds over it.
just did a quick Season 2 Surivor head count, for myself
38 new Season 2 Survivors
Season 2 Regular Surivors 10 (4 TCM+6 PO)
Season 2 Kickstarter Survivors 28 (8+11+3+6)
8 Add-ons (Dakota,Fred,Lea,Rick,Adrianna,Will,Ross,Helen)
11 Stretch Goal Freebies (Brad,Thaissa,Kirk,Rose,Ralph,Gary,Achille,Mack,Chuck,Smith,Mike)
3 Moustache Box (Don,Frank,Rob)
6 Artist Boxes (Uncle Honk, Butch, Padre Johnson, Bones, Angry Mary, Red Cap Ben)
The sweet spot to get all of the season 2 surivors if $295
$150 Fugitive + $80 Add on + $20 Moustache Box + $45 Artist Box)
You might to cath'em all since season 3 rumored to have team and Survivor vs. Survivor play.
They just like to pledge so they can piss and moan.
Someone a few days ago posted he was dropping out because "Season 2 was not as good as a deal as season1". The next 10 posts were people using examples and math to prove him wrong. He then psoted another half dozen times how were persecuting him for being a dissenting voice.
I just think some popel don't get enough attention inthe real world and use KS to troll and get the attention they crave. I also think some people are just inconsiderate and have an internet connection.
$2.2 Mil....Really? Would be interested to know what an average first run of a comparable board game makes for some one like Fantasy Flight or such.. Seems like a serious amount of money. Bet there is some banker some where super pissed at KS right now, bet he would have loved to make a big loan to have them make this game!
We've got 44 survivors in total (incl. Season 1). 45 if you include Kyoko, who's super-hard to get hold of given she's an exclusive for those that get their submitted missions published on their site.
But I WANT Kyoko! I pledged for all the previous survivors and kickstarters! This is unfair. I'm dropping my pledge!
/sarcasm
But on a serious note, I resisted all the add ons (save one) for KD:M, but I could not resist all the survivors for Zombicide Season 2. Most I've ever spent on a KS.
$950 total on Kickstarters since I joined last March. yeesh.
I added an extra $5 to mine for the skull tokens. My plastic tokens from S1 vanished into the ether almost the moment they were removed from the box. I have 4 left, so more is a good thing.
The total acutally went up a comple of dollars after the timer ran out.
Zombicide Season 2 bumped Kingdom Death out of the Most Funded Tabletop Game slot on Kickstarter.
It was also pointed out that while Zombicide Season 1 wave 2 is slated to ship in April, slightly behind it's Q1 estimate, the behomoth that was the Ogre Kickstarter, kickstarted around the same time as Season 1, and slated for shipping in November of last year, with mostly printed components, and no plastic figures, still hasn't shipped.
$2.25 million! See you in September!
Update #39 · Mar 31, 2013 ·
What a crazy total, beyond anyone's expectations surely!
Thank you to all our backers for making this a great campaign - we'll be contacting you with survey information shortly, and will announce it as an update when we do!
It's a two part process:
1. A Kickstarter survey will go out, which is hosted by Kickstarter itself. We'll ask you most importantly for your email address.
2. We'll use the info you give us to populate an account on our pledge manager, and when that's complete we'll send you a link at the email address you gave us through Kickstarter.
The survey will come a little earlier as we'll need to figure out how many tilepacks to print, but it's not important to get everything right on your survey except your email address.
In the meantime, relax, and dream of zombies! We will!
Wow. $2.2 million. Well congratulations CMoN. Didn't pay too much attention to this since not a fan of zombies, but think the artist boxes were a nice touch. Hope that is a hint of future works with those artist. Like Smith and Kopinski.
Curious how long before they unseat Reaper's Bones for the highest funded tabletop top game (even though it isn't technically listed as a tabletop game). Don't see Confrontation or Wrath of Kings pulling it off. Suspect it will be something we don't expect or know is being worked on.
whalemusic360 wrote: And we didn't get any other cmon tie in figs like they have done on every other one. Kind of a surprise, as it seemed rather easy.
Well, yeah the other half of penny arcade for sure, but also sed wars, relic knights, maybe some sort of kingdom death. Some missed opportunity out there for sure while its still fresh in mind.
Cyporiean wrote: I doubt we'll see any more Penny Arcade tie-ins.
Why? Not sarcastic, I've always been a bit mystified by the seemingly endless popularity of PA (I only very occasionally read the comic), did something off happen given their previous endorsed tie-ins?
Cyporiean wrote: I doubt we'll see any more Penny Arcade tie-ins.
Why? Not sarcastic, I've always been a bit mystified by the seemingly endless popularity of PA (I only very occasionally read the comic), did something off happen given their previous endorsed tie-ins?
Nothing I can easily say, just a feeling from my talks with various other people in the industry. I get the feeling that the PA Folks aren't worth the money 'they bring in'.
Well and there was that issue with them being supposed to plug a game and not doing so until the last minute (I forget which it was).
whalemusic360 wrote: Well, yeah the other half of penny arcade for sure, but also sed wars, relic knights, maybe some sort of kingdom death. Some missed opportunity out there for sure while its still fresh in mind.
Yeah, that's odd! Personally I am not all about the tribute or cross-over figures... like AT ALL . But I get that they're crowd-pleasers and sell well, so I'm surprised we didn't see more. Maybe they don't want to go back to the same well too many times
Ahh, I had heard about the Dreadball incident at the time, and it always struck me as odd that people thought the endorsement (which was so blatantly paid for) was worth while.
There are the Web Series Bite Me, and Zombie Go Boom. They would have likely pimped zombicide to all their Yourtube subscribers for a figure based on one of them.
silent25 wrote: Curious how long before they unseat Reaper's Bones for the highest funded tabletop top game (even though it isn't technically listed as a tabletop game). Don't see Confrontation or Wrath of Kings pulling it off. Suspect it will be something we don't expect or know is being worked on.
I'm kind of hoping we won't. These kind of mega-campaigns are squeezing the life out of smaller companies' efforts, like the juggernaut of legend, crushing the unworthy under wheels of iron. On the long run, I wonder what this does to traditional hobby and boardgame stores (and online retailers), when a significant fraction of the core audience for a game like Zombicide has already bought into it months before it ever hits the shelves. Indeed, I remember reading that Kingdom Death might never be offered through those channels at all.
Cyporiean wrote: I doubt we'll see any more Penny Arcade tie-ins.
Why? Not sarcastic, I've always been a bit mystified by the seemingly endless popularity of PA (I only very occasionally read the comic), did something off happen given their previous endorsed tie-ins?
Well they had a tie in figure for Mantics Dreadball (and were presumably meant to give a plug in return)
but only provided an 'oops' we forgot about it coz we were busy excuse much later (after the KS had finished? if memoery serves)
You don't just pay PA to mention you in a twitter post. PA isn't run like that. That and they're not doing advertising at the moment.
Anyway, today we celebrated the KS by playing Zombicide! We played the mission where you have to get 6 objectives and get out from one of the spawn points before being overrun. We lost one of the survivors along the way. Man cars are a fun way of mowing down Zombies!!!
It'll be nice to go from 9 playable survivors to 44!
silent25 wrote: Curious how long before they unseat Reaper's Bones for the highest funded tabletop top game (even though it isn't technically listed as a tabletop game). Don't see Confrontation or Wrath of Kings pulling it off. Suspect it will be something we don't expect or know is being worked on.
I'm kind of hoping we won't. These kind of mega-campaigns are squeezing the life out of smaller companies' efforts, like the juggernaut of legend, crushing the unworthy under wheels of iron.
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Agamemnon2 wrote:On the long run, I wonder what this does to traditional hobby and boardgame stores (and online retailers), when a significant fraction of the core audience for a game like Zombicide has already bought into it months before it ever hits the shelves. Indeed, I remember reading that Kingdom Death might never be offered through those channels at all.
Yeah, I do think Zombicide would have been a HUGE retail hit, but I'm not sure how much wind the kickstarters take out of their sales that way. My friend is of the opinion that with board games like this, game stores get the "1 a month" purchases, but not the initial "50 at once" purchases at launch. It's definitely less lucrative for stores from what I have seen so far...
However, I've seen the opposite with Dreamforge's stuff- since it's not a self-contained board game, the ones that got brought in to my local store were sold instantly (heck I even bought another heavy weapons box ). I'm thinking this is the difference between a self-contained board game, and something people need more of after the initial purchase.
I'm not sure if there's any way for a game like Zombicide to bridge that divide, although things like the box of dogz add-ons are a Really good idea in that regard. I may even get the box of dogz at retail, and I don't have the game... just because
The word "juggernaut" was on my mind, and historically, it used to refer to a sacred cart of sorts, which it was said trampled worshippers to death in some Hindu rituals (probably a colonialist myth of native savagery during the Empire).
I do think you're right regarding Zombicide being a retail hit, though. Zombies are big in the zeitgeist, and board games spread very well through contact, i.e. players of one at events or with friends go out and buy their own sets. And people who didn't splurge for all the KS extras will probably get those expansions via more traditional channels later on.
As I mentioned, we played on the weekend and using two characters each (there were three of us), we were using 6 of the 9 currently available. That's not a huge amount of options.
Having 44 different survivors rather than 9 is a pretty good idea.
Man, I'm so bummed I didn't get in on this, but I've been unemployed for just a bit too long. The cost on the Zombicide Season 2 kickstarter just went through the roof with all the exclusive add-ons. I did get in on the Reaper kickstarter though, and just received my figs. Definitely don't regret that.
chris_valera wrote: Man, I'm so bummed I didn't get in on this, but I've been unemployed for just a bit too long. The cost on the Zombicide Season 2 kickstarter just went through the roof with all the exclusive add-ons. I did get in on the Reaper kickstarter though, and just received my figs. Definitely don't regret that.
It takes weeks.
Amazon collects the money.
Allows a week or so to straighten out credit card issues.
Amazon passes information to kickstarter.
Kickstarter sends out surveys to us to confirm our address, email, etc..
After a week or so, Kickstarter sends info to CMON.
CMON sorts through data and builds pledge manager.
CMON emails us and we can access the new pledge manager.
Wow, just wow... the original Zombicide Abomination set (With all the add-on characters, and the stretch goal freebie models.) has been selling for over $1,200 on eBay.
Mr Gutsy wrote: Wow, just wow... the original Zombicide Abomination set (With all the add-on characters, and the stretch goal freebie models.) has been selling for over $1,200 on eBay.
I understand the compulsive collector mentality all too well, but even to me $1,200 is just absolutely ridiculous...
FETH MY LIFE.
This is why gambling rarely pays off. I took a gamble and went for Sedition Wars over zombicide. Seeing this makes me die a little inside....... I'm sitting here looking at about $4000 I might have made!
Yeah, I think mine is going to go up tonight. I can always replace the base game. And other than Sheldon, I really couldn't care less about the other models.
Project Update #40: Surveys not out yet, we'll update when they are sent
Posted by CoolMiniOrNot
We're confirming which long leadtime items we'll need to have on the survey - we haven't sent out the survey yet and will update again once it's out. Everyone asking on the comments and personal message, relax, you'll know when it goes out.
About 4 weeks after the surveys are sent, we'll update again about email links you'll be receiving to confirm everything and make any additional payments through our pledge manager. Again, no need to ask if they were sent, we'll update here when they are.
Mostly confirming you email, address, and how many extra figures and tile sets you were thinking of getting.
Pledge Manager link still to come.
Surveys are out
Update #41 · Apr 23, 2013 · 42 comments
The Zombicide: Season 2 surveys are out!
We're only asking about long leadtime items, everything else including extra payment will be taken care of in our pledge manager at https://ckpm.coolminiornot.com, you'll receive a login link when it's ready. Refer to http://cmon.com/zombicide2 for the options. Please enter 0 if you don't want an item listed.
We're also asking for your preferred email address. If it's the same as your Kickstarter email please enter it again (twice) or provide the one you usually use. This email address will be used by our pledge manager as your login and all notifications will be sent to this address.
Once the CoolMiniOrNot Kikcstarter pledge manager is ready we'll post another update here so you'll know to look for the email link.
Reading the update and KS comments is funny it's amazing the amount of people that didn't read the text of the update properly and then proceeded to ask where is X,Y or Z or I can't find where to add them, when I log into the CKPM there is no Zc2 option where is it etc. etc.
I know that the artist packs will be in the KPM, but I was curious as to why they weren't on the survey - they strike me as long lead time items, after all.
They will be a retail item so they are making them regardless and numbers aren't so important the other miniatures are once off so they need a good idea of how many to make in 1 run, while the tiles will be available later they won't be available to the same extent and won't sell nearly as well as the miniatures as print runs of tiles are expensive they need an idea of how many to order for the KS and future stock they won't reorder these very often.
Thanks Dave, that makes a lot of sense. I must have missed the part where they said the artist boxes were a retail item or I might have decided not to get them until then as British customs are making a monkey out of me recently and I could do with paying a lot less to them.
The last 2 packages I got from Japan, the customs charges and handling fees came to about the same as I paid for the items I'd ordered, so I think they must have included the shipping costs. Even then, I've been stung for about half the total.
Didn't happen with my DFG package though, so don't know what happened there?
CMON just announced that the remaining items for Season 1 are currently being sent out. As an added bonus they are being posted from Battlefoam for those in the UK to save us tax (although the first packages they have sent accidentally didn't include the cards which will follow).
We also finally have an answer regarding Eva and Marvin -
At Miramax's request, Guillotine Games made some modifications to the costumes for Eva and Marvin - if you ordered them and don't like what you got, we'll be happy to take them back, just drop us an email.
Looks like we were right about the legal issues surrounding them.
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