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Post by: adamsouza
SEASON 2 KICKSTARTER IS OVER
I will keep this thread, and Original post, updated throughout the kickstarter.
Please be advised that there are threads for Zombicide general discussions and updates in the board games section, and I would like to keep this thread on topic for the Zombicide Season 2 Kickstarter.
BOX CONTENTS
STRETCH GOALS
BOZs Contents
Dog Companions
New Rules Previews
New Character Bios
Prison Break Images
Toxic City Mall Images
Zombie Dogz
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Post by: Zweischneid
Interesting.
They're going at it alone this time, or is it a CMON-Kickstarter too?
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Post by: DaveC
Definitely a CMON KS they confirmed that by Facebook on the 9th of February, I'd say the publishing rights covered a number of games and expansions so they have to go with CMON.
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Post by: RiTides
Yawn :-/. Would've rather they didn't go the KS route for round 2... definite pass for me (but I didn't pick up the base game, either).
Has anyone felt they've gotten hundreds of dollars worth of gameplay out of these board game KS? People are spending way more on them than they would normal board games...
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Post by: Vhalan
I've been kinda picky about which KS to back but this one has repaid the cost in terms of play. After sitting on the shelf for awhile, I have a group of people that want to play it at every gathering. YMMV of course.
Im sort of concerned that everything is going the KS route these days.
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Post by: adamsouza
 RiTides wrote:Yawn :-/. Would've rather they didn't go the KS route for round 2... definite pass for me (but I didn't pick up the base game, either).
Has anyone felt they've gotten hundreds of dollars worth of gameplay out of these board game KS? People are spending way more on them than they would normal board games...
I don't think of it as board game, more of a RPG lite miniatures heavy zombie combat simulator...
It has given me more entertainment value than 40K has over the past year. The virtue that it can be shared with and enjoyed my non miniatures gaming enthusiasts without them spending hundreds of dollars getting into a hobby, and can learn the rules in minutes, while playing, has been instrumental in working it's way into my gaming rotation.
Vhalan wrote: Im sort of concerned that everything is going the KS route these days.
It's generates excitement, free advertising, and product awareness.
The posting on the KS page fosters a community for a game before it's released
For successful kickstarters it often produces sales in excess of the original expaections.
They produce exclusive items, and Alpha Adopters love shiny exclusive things.
It's generally all win for the company running it, so it's understandable about it becoming prevalent.
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Post by: kenshin620
Well for CMoN if it aint broke (KS funding) then dont fix it
So unless theres a huge shift, I bet they can count on KS in bringing in the extra dough
And I also think KS itself doesnt mind the cash either
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Post by: Catyrpelius
RiTides wrote:Yawn :-/. Would've rather they didn't go the KS route for round 2... definite pass for me (but I didn't pick up the base game, either).
Has anyone felt they've gotten hundreds of dollars worth of gameplay out of these board game KS? People are spending way more on them than they would normal board games...
I've gotten my moneys worth out of Zombiecide, its a epic looking game that draws a crowd.
With the current trend in board game prices a game like Zombiecide is definatly not out of the norm.
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Post by: Cyporiean
i've enjoyed Zombiecide ($100) much more then Small World ($30)
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Post by: RiTides
I'm sure it will... but I'm not going to kickstart an already successful game just for it's expansion. If I decide I want it, I'll wait and get it from the FLGS or Warstore, etc...
I'm also not going to fight for a tiny number of early bird's, many of whom later drop it, but it'll have already accomplished CMON's purpose (spiking the opening day, a bit artificially making demand look really high).
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Post by: Alpharius
RiTides wrote:I'm sure it will... but I'm not going to kickstart an already successful game just for it's expansion. If I decide I want it, I'll wait and get it from the FLGS or Warstore, etc...
I'm also not going to fight for a tiny number of early bird's, many of whom later drop it, but it'll have already accomplished CMON's purpose (spiking the opening day, a bit artificially making demand look really high).
All we need now is Scipio/Azazelx threatening to pull his pledge and we'll be able to tick that box right quick! 
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Post by: adamsouza
Updated OP to include the rule book images. They cover all the new rules, the box contents, and a few scenarios
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Post by: RiTides
Okay, I admit that those images are pretty impressive! I wasn't planning to be a raincloud the whole time here, just had to get it out of the way  as these kinds of campaigns are not my cup of tea.
But the dogs are cool
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Post by: Aeneades
Whilst the thread title says the Kickstarter is for Toxic City Mall Expansion, it is actually also going to offer a standalone 'Season 2: Prison Outbreak' expansion with prison tiles, new survivors and a new type of zombie (Guillotine Games have stated that it will actually contain more then the original game).
We have also seen previews of a zombie dog mini expansion for those who want to add a new challenge to the original game / season 2.
More details of the two expansions and mini expansion can be found here -
http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2013/02/08/69596/
(The Guillotine Games facebook page also has loads of spoilers from both expansions)
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Post by: cincydooley
RTides Real Life Photo:
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Post by: Azazelx
RiTides wrote:
Has anyone felt they've gotten hundreds of dollars worth of gameplay out of these board game KS? People are spending way more on them than they would normal board games...
 Alpharius wrote:
All we need now is Scipio/Azazelx threatening to pull his pledge and we'll be able to tick that box right quick!
Actually, I did drop my Rivet Wars pledge in the very end, for exactly the reason RT gave up there. I didn't see the longer-term value of what ended up being about $350 for a board game. If the figures were more compatible with the rest of my collection, I'd probably have kept it. Which is why I didn't offer to drop my Sedition Wars KS. I'm sure I'll go in for an Early Bird here, and at some point I'll bitch when CMON tries some overpriced add-ons, but overall I think it's likely that I'll stay onboard for this one - especially since I just got the Zombicide base game from a retailer.
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Lol Cincy like I said I'm done, promise!
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Post by: DaveC
From Facebook just now ....
.... Still waiting for the approval... Sorry guys...
When asked how much longer ....
... It really depends sometimes 2 hours sometimes a couple of days....
Further update - Not today folks
.........We just received word from Kickstarter that their approvals are backlogged, and they aren't likely to be able to get to our project until Monday.
So... keep your power dry, and we'll see you next week.
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Post by: adamsouza
Thanks for the Update DaveC.
OP updated. Automatically Appended Next Post: Aeneades wrote:Whilst the thread title says the Kickstarter is for Toxic City Mall Expansion, it is actually also going to offer a standalone 'Season 2: Prison Outbreak' expansion with prison tiles, new survivors and a new type of zombie (Guillotine Games have stated that it will actually contain more then the original game).
We have also seen previews of a zombie dog mini expansion for those who want to add a new challenge to the original game / season 2.
More details of the two expansions and mini expansion can be found here -
http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2013/02/08/69596/
(The Guillotine Games facebook page also has loads of spoilers from both expansions)
To be honest, I wasn't closely paying attention to the details of the spoilers, because I waiting for the official information.
You are correct. I just assumed that the Prison tiles were going to the backs of the mall tiles, but looking at the contents of toxic City mall, you can clearly see that the dogs are not included in the Mall Expansion.
This works out better, and and makes more sense, to have both expansions be seperate boxes. Assuming they kickstart them together as a single project, that's going to be a nice amount of new models and content.
The Original box had 6 Survivors, 29 Zombies, and 9 tiles.
Toxic City Mall has 4 Survivors, 10 Zombivors, 29 Zombies, and 4 tiles.
The Prsion Break supplement won't need to include the additional Zombivores, but can safely assume includes the dogs.
I would hope the composition would be simlar with 4 Surviviors, 4 Zombivors, 29 Zombies
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Post by: Aeneades
Judging from the previews, the Prison Outbreak expansion will actually come with 6 Survivors and 6 Zombivors (3 female, 3 male as shown on the boxart).
It doesn't look like either big expansion will come with the dogs though as the box of zombies #5 shows that they are exclusive to that mini expansion and the rules for the dogs are on a separate 1 page rule sheet rather then part of either of the big expansion rules books.
Looking like this Kickstarter will end up with over twice the content of the original so hopefully they can keep it at a reasonable price. Guillotine Games have hinted that you only need to pick up the Season 2 Prison Outbreak box set to get the new exclusive promo miniatures with the Toxic Mall expansion as an optional addon.
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Post by: MagickalMemories
Heck, I'm still waiting for my shirt from the last one.
...not that it's going to stop me from getting in on this one...
Eric
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Post by: Rotgut
This maybe a silly question but does anyone know if this will be able to be played without the original zombicide?
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Post by: kenshin620
Rotgut wrote:This maybe a silly question but does anyone know if this will be able to be played without the original zombicide?
Toxic Mall, no. That is an expansion
Prison Outbreak, yes. That is a standalone
Though you could get both the Prison Outbreak and the Toxic Mall and you'll be good
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Post by: Grot 6
Looks cool all around. 
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Post by: DaveC
and we are go at 11AM EST (4PM GMT) on Saturday, nice to finally have a time at last.
Good news!
Zombicide: Season 2 has just been aprpoved by Kickstarter so we'll be pulling the trigger on the zombie hordes at 11am EST Saturday morning.
Stay tuned to Facebook to get the link to the Kickstarter page once it goes live!
and another teaser Dirty Harry I mean Brad probably a promo.
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Beat me to it DaveC!!
I'm going to put an Eye Patch on Brad and call him the govener.
Checking out the Tabletop Gaming Artcle, with no Rocket Science involved, based on the image names, I'm speculating that the Prison Break Zombies are All BESERKERS !!!!
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Post by: DustGod
I've gotten my moneys worth... I love the game. it's simple to play but no 2 games have been the same.
I'm stoke this give me more options for PCs and enemies... play in a mall or a prison...
they need to do a Ving Rhames from Dawn of the dead, and Lil Zhe as a Kid from City of God.....
the game is fun for my whole family, sometimes we play before walking dead, I'm excited.
actually this thing has replaced most choices for our boardgame nights. No more Sorry or Uno....
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Post by: General Seric
I am looking forwards to Toxic City Mall, though I am not sure about Prison Break, but I will probably back the Kickstarter anyway. It will be great to have more option for tiles, zombies, and survivors, though the base game has not gotten old yet in either of the groups I play it with.
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Post by: cincydooley
Well, I know what I'm going to be doing at 11AM tomorrow....
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
How 'bout Harvey Keitel's character from From Dusk 'Til Dawn? A preacher might make for an interesting type of character.
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Post by: Dentry
Tempted to jump on an early bird also, but I'm trying to stick to my guns (and my budget) here. Should I bet on an inability to resist and grab the discount? Dunno!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I wouldn't worry. Early Birds will open up during the course of the KS as people dropout for whatever trivial reasons people seem to drop out of KS's.
I look forward to the endless gak storm of complaints and nonsense that every Dakka KS thread always involves, and realisation that it could be much worse whenever some brave Dakkanaut ventures over to BGG to see the crybabies over there.
[EDIT]: Ok, so "gak" and "storm", when put together, is one thing the Dakka's unnecessary "you're obviously swearing but we'll feebly try to hide it" word filter doesn't know about.
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Post by: adamsouza
One of the biggest bellyaching complaints during the last kickstarter was the lack of a rulebook before the kickstarter ended. I noticed that the Toxic City Mall rulebook and Zombie Dogz rules were previewed before the Kickstarter even started this time around.
On a different note, I got really pumped when I realized that we are talking about a minimum of 1o new survivors. There are 4 in Toxic CIty Mall, 6 in Prison Break, and an nunkown number of Promo figures, both freebie and Add-on. Not to mention the 7? promo figures from the last Kickstarter...
We are going from 9 to 26+ survivors. The game is pretty custom survivor friendly, but with 26+ choices, you have a lot of options to play with.
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Post by: cincydooley
Yah , I'm stoked. Guillotine really has their head on straight with how they're pumping up this expansion. The game is just so darn fun.
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Post by: Sway
I have to agree. I'm not sure I want anything more than the base game. I might buy the prison tiles just for the claustrophobic atmosphere. But the fact that they've put out so much information is amazing. If I do back the project I won't feel like I'm gambling at all.
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Post by: Rotgut
 kenshin620 wrote:Rotgut wrote:This maybe a silly question but does anyone know if this will be able to be played without the original zombicide?
Toxic Mall, no. That is an expansion
Prison Outbreak, yes. That is a standalone
Though you could get both the Prison Outbreak and the Toxic Mall and you'll be good
Thanks! I might get in on this then, Ive heard nothing but great things about zombicide.
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Post by: DustGod
I can already see the naysayers creep out the wood work about a second kickstarter. I hope that stays to a minimum. Board Games don't have tremendous resale potential i.e. you buy the box once. You'll buy support products but I doubt very many people will buy 2 core sets. It isn't like other products where you buy 6 tactical squad boxes, tanks, all all this other stuff and alot of the money goes to production and salaries.
Give these guys a break. Their bringing a very cool game at a very good price and I for one will support all the products they make concerning Zombicide as long as its new and not ridiculously redundant. I'm pretty stoked about this. I've had nothing but fun for my 100 Buck pledge.
If you haven't played do yourself a favor n pick it up. Great game
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Post by: Azazelx
 H.B.M.C. wrote:I wouldn't worry. Early Birds will open up during the course of the KS as people dropout for whatever trivial reasons people seem to drop out of KS's.
I look forward to the endless gak storm of complaints and nonsense that every Dakka KS thread always involves, and realisation that it could be much worse whenever some brave Dakkanaut ventures over to BGG to see the crybabies over there.
[EDIT]: Ok, so "gak" and "storm", when put together, is one thing the Dakka's unnecessary "you're obviously swearing but we'll feebly try to hide it" word filter doesn't know about.
We may as well get this over with now. I'll grab an early bird, and based on the amount of extra crap thrown in the Zombicide, Sedition Wars and Rivet Wars Kickstarters, I'll assume they'll be piling on the extras. Since Zombies (especially) and survivors are likely to be cross-compatible amongst similar games and figure ranges (Last Night on Earth series, Zombies!!!, Nurgle, Dark Legion, Incursion, SotTR, Hasslefree survivors, Studio Miniatures Zombies, maybe even Sedition Wars, etc, etc) I foresee no reason I'll be withdrawing my pledge, (Rivet wars wasn't as cross-compatible, and the gameplay video was not super exciting - which was why I pulled the plug, as explained earlier). I don't foresee a likelihood of dropping my pledge, but if I need to for some reason like bills eating all of my money, I'll let the forum know in the last day or two, so someone here can grab it. Don't hold yer breath, though.
Right? Done. 
What's it like with just 2 players? I may have a chance to crack open my new box this weekend...
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Post by: TheSecretSquig
There is a downsize to this KickStarter Fad. I'm more than happy to pledge my support to get a new game into the market and build up a dedicated gaming community via all the reasons mentioned above, using a Kickstarter.
Now the game is established. There is a gaming community. The FLGS now need the business of the expansions in order to give us all an alternative gaming venue, or somewhere to go when we can't internet order. By runing the expansion KickStarter, there is no reason for any FLGS to stock this line of game.
I didn't back Zombiecide but I did back others like Sedition Wars, Kingdom Death etc. If expansions come out for these games, I'll be buying them locally.
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Post by: Azazelx
My local internet store (local, as in, here in Australia) isn't exactly hurting for my business despite the amount I've spent on KS. I spend a gakload there. My local game store isn't somewhere I choose to play, and the prices aren't a worthwhile alternative to buying online and playing at home.
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Post by: DaveC
and go
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/zombicide-season-2
already over $50k and all TCM and Season 2 early birds gone still some Season 2 only left
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Post by: Azazelx
Early birds went in about 1-2 minutes, at the most. There were 30 still available, and by the time I clicked on it, they were all gone.
Since there's apparently a horde of people overwhelming the page, I went in for an early bird on the S1+2 complete package instead. Depending on what exactly is in the Season 1 set included, I might have to pull my pledge back to the Season 2 complete, since I just got my base boxed game.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yikes. That went quickly.
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Post by: Cyporiean
Funded in about 3 minutes.
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Post by: endtransmission
From what the page says, I think Season 1 is just the original box... which I needed anyway, so I'm glad I managed to get one of the TCM early bird specials
Ouch. I wonder if they are carefully rearranging stretch goals so they havn't already been overtaken yet
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Post by: Azazelx
Those are all gone now, too. $79k+
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I love how they met their funding goal in a few seconds! Automatically Appended Next Post: 94k. Jesus this is fast.
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Post by: DaveC
$100k down - awaiting stretch goals! managed to get a Fugitive Early Bird so happy days.
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Post by: Azazelx
Stretch goals for this one are going to be interesting. Seeing as they're already over $90k now, and will probably be over 100k by the time I finish this post. It's probably going to be a bit slow to add them, comparatively - and I imagine that they'll probably be based heavily on add-ons, given that getting people to go in on the game is clearly not a problem. Similarly, with everyone going in on Day 1, this one may well flatten out much more than other campaigns we've watched following the Day 1-2 spike.
Yep. $98k+ now. Looks like my $100k to write a forum post was spot on. 10 words later and we're over $100k.
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Post by: Fenriswulf
Missed out on the $140 set. So $150 for me it seems, plus postage.
The original game is heaps of fun, so I am really looking forward to this.
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Post by: DaveC
That's interesting Season 2 contains another tray of the original zombies, no need to buy more of them now.
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Post by: Azazelx
 Fenriswulf wrote:Missed out on the $140 set. So $150 for me it seems, plus postage.
The original game is heaps of fun, so I am really looking forward to this.
That's why I grabbed the complete set early bird. Easy enough to drop back down to the $150 level down the line.
Anyway, that's enough for me. I'm going to bed! I expect you and HBMC to do the same!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
 DaveC wrote:That's interesting Season 2 contains another tray of the original zombies, no need to buy more of them now.
You're right. Prison Outbreak has a tray of regular zombies + another Abomination.
That's nice.
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Post by: Azazelx
How useful/important do you find the extra set of (S1) Base game tiles?
I'm a little disappointed that there was no "double biohazard" type thing, to give 2 sets of all the S2 expack tiles.
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Post by: Fenriswulf
I've not used more than one set of the tiles, but I do want to make up some of my own missions for this game.
And I live in WA, slept during the day due to a long Friday night, and now are fine. You go to bed!
I think my friends will get in at $205. It's a pretty good price point I have to say, if you don't mind missing out on the survivors from Season 1.
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Post by: Azazelx
Heh. I got the announcement email touting early bird slots 6 minutes after backing (so after all the early birds were all gone!)
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Post by: RiTides
Wow, 100K in 10 minutes. Certainly helps to let people know when you're launching!
I'm going to wave my "kickstarter hipster" flag and stay on the sidelines since my money is already allocated for RBG, Mecha Front and a few others coming... but it's certainly fun to watch!
Edit: Also, 2 of my friends got in on this  and I think got the early birds (I alerted them to when it was going live last night). So, I'll have plenty of chances to play it!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
 Azazelx wrote:Anyway, that's enough for me. I'm going to bed! I expect you and HBMC to do the same!
Good point! It's 3:33am and I need sleep! Until tomorrow guys! Also, small taste of things to come: 
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Post by: Azazelx
Well, Guillotine have made the cards for the KS survivors available on their website, so it's just a matter of trying to track down appropriate figures for them. Zombivivor figures might be a touch harder, though...
And yes, I want to go to bed, but after getting up at 2:30am, I'm wide awake. :(
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Post by: Rotgut
Pledged for the early bird prison one. First kickstarter and Im pretty excited, now for the waiting!
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Post by: kenshin620
Seriously how many people were perched up on their nests eagle eyeing this KS!
I've seen this type of growth for video games like dreamfall!
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Post by: Taarnak
I'll be watching this, and likely piggybacking on a friends' pledge this time.
I find it a little annoying that the free extra survivor is for the pledge level that includes the base game and not the one that is the sweet spot for this KS.
~Eric
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Post by: Cyporiean
 Taarnak wrote:I'll be watching this, and likely piggybacking on a friends' pledge this time.
I find it a little annoying that the free extra survivor is for the pledge level that includes the base game and not the one that is the sweet spot for this KS.
~Eric
Do you mean Brad? He is in Fugitive.
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Post by: Taarnak
 Cyporiean wrote: Taarnak wrote:I'll be watching this, and likely piggybacking on a friends' pledge this time.
I find it a little annoying that the free extra survivor is for the pledge level that includes the base game and not the one that is the sweet spot for this KS.
~Eric
Do you mean Brad? He is in Fugitive.
Is he? That's cool then, I totally misread it. Disregard inapplicable bitching above. Lol.
~Eric
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Post by: adamsouza
Derick, Season 2 Survivor
Notice that Derick has the new Gask Mask Card, which will be insanely useful when dealing with the new toxic Zombies.
Raoul, Season 2 Survivor
Raoul is sporting the New Claw Hammer
Goold Ole Crazy Ned was spotted sporting the New Riot Shiled
Tough, plus you can discard it to prevent a wound.
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Even better than getting a tray of old zombie sculpts with Season 2. This may be one of the 2 missing box sets then as well - a second walk of the dead set.
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Post by: adamsouza
Stretch Goals are up
Basically, Prison Break is going to come with all new sculpts for regular Walkers, Runners, Fatties, and Abomination.
It's not huge, but considering I originally bought Zombicide on the strength of the miniatures alone, I'm pretty pumped about having all new sculpts
Ninja'd Automatically Appended Next Post:
Just noticed that's she's dual wielding knives, which are not currently a weapon in the game.
The fact that she's using a reverse pommel grip implies she knows what she's doing with them
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Post by: DaveC
$200k in 73 minutes and the Fat lady is in
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Post by: kenshin620
I'm afraid to know how much will be funded by the end of the day
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Post by: RoninXiC
Just insane.
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Post by: timetowaste85
I missed the first KS. Not missing the second! Already pledged for the $150 level. Come on goodies!
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Post by: ephrael
 timetowaste85 wrote:I missed the first KS. Not missing the second! Already pledged for the $150 level. Come on goodies!
Ditto here. If I could have figured out a way to pledge the $2000 before everyone else and without my wife finding out I'd be on my way to being a tiny plastic survivor/zombie as well. Probably best for my wallet and marriage that I didn't.
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Post by: Fenriswulf
The stretch goals look awesome, and I am all for more variety of zombies.
Will get a lot of use out of Thaissa and the special dice. I have a bioshock themed force in the works for 40k, and the zombie Thaissa will be excellent as a spider splicer.
I have to say, looking forward to the dice. Black/Orange is a favourite combo of mine.
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Post by: RoninXiC
250k. Guys... what the hell
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Post by: griffen127
I think this is the wrong way to go about releasing your product. I understand the first go around. This however, seems to be a grab for more money out of people. Just wait they will start to offer you more stuff for more money. I feel that this is abusing the KS system. Its suppose to give start ups the funding they need to get there game out. I just see that as a money grab. IMO
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Post by: timetowaste85
Good God, this is climbing fast. Will we hit a million today guys? Past the 1/4 mark in only a couple hrs.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Im in at fugitive. Had many fun hours with the base game, and everyone i've introduced it to loved it. No way i'm missing out on this one!
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Post by: paulson games
Its a good kickstarter day for Zombicide. Can't wait to see this thing smash a million this time around.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
It's going to be massive
CMON (for all their comms issues) have delivered most of 2 big KS projects
CMON projects do pile in decent free (and paid stuff)
Zombicide IS a good, fun boardgame
Guilloteen have been great at putting out extra material
Xmas CC bills are (hopefully) now a distant memory
Those that missed KS1 can pick up the first game here so completists will be (almost) happy
The only potential fly in the ointment will be the comments if they end up going the way rivit wars did... And new backers will certainly feel the slow down when it happens and start panicing
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What about the comments / Rivet Wars, Orlando? I didn't follow that too closely...
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Post by: whalemusic360
Early bird fugitive. Excited for more goodies. Glad to see it is running similar to the last, not sure I can manage another $400 sedition wars or relic knight pledge.
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Post by: kenshin620
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:I The only potential fly in the ointment will be the comments if they end up going the way rivit wars did... And new backers will certainly feel the slow down when it happens and start panicing
RiTides wrote:What about the comments / Rivet Wars, Orlando? I didn't follow that too closely...
While there were the BBG anger, didnt most of the flame war start because someone was making WW2/Nazi jokes? I could be wrong Edit 300k hit. Oh no we need more stretchies
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
RiTides wrote:What about the comments / Rivet Wars, Orlando? I didn't follow that too closely...
The comments section of rivit wars was a train wreck,
loads of screaming for free stuff/value & complaints about 'having' to pay for add ons,
panic that the KS was stalled/doomed,
nasty personal arguments (that appeared to get folk banned & comments deleted by KS0
lots of pointless arguing back and forth about trivial stuff,
plenty of know it alls
and a reluctance to help newbies (it's all very well that they're asking a question that's been asked 100s of times, but as you can't search KS comments most KS commenters are normally happy to repost stock answers, here very few were, or they were lost in the arguments)
I think it eventually got a bit better after some of the worst offenders vanished (we suspect KS banned them)
Edit: Kenshin has it right (i obviously blanked it out) some idiot made a fair few tasteless/antisemetic comments (intentional or not they led to RAGE)... he and these comments are some of the vanished
I normally have fun in the KS comments, and enjoy following them. Not there.
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Post by: Kroothawk
... aaand 325.000 $ reached within minutes. Damn that's fast.
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Post by: adamsouza
In 4 1/2 Hours, 1,921 backers pledged a total of $328,457 and there are still 29 days to go.
If this pace keeps up we will be swimming in goodies...
The first Kickstarter had 5,258 backers. If we match that this time around we should clear a million !!
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griffen127 wrote:I think this is the wrong way to go about releasing your product. I understand the first go around. This however, seems to be a grab for more money out of people. Just wait they will start to offer you more stuff for more money. I feel that this is abusing the KS system. Its suppose to give start ups the funding they need to get there game out. I just see that as a money grab. IMO
As entitled to your opinion as you are, you sure can't back this opinion up with fact. Look at the numbers they have already generated and it seems clear it was the correct way for them to go about releasing this. Noone who pledges has a gun to their head forcing them to, it is all voluntary, and obviously there are a LOT of folks happy enough with the perceived value fo their pledges that they are buying into the kickstarter.
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Post by: Kroothawk
The original kickstarter raised $781,597. Will it take them one or two days now to surpass that?
Edit. ... aaand 350.000 $ reached within minutes.
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Post by: Alpharius
It will take more than a day or two to get that high... but not too much longer, I'd bet!
The "Zombicide" brand is apparently stronger than ever - and with the inevitable "$10/$15" add ons, this one will get a bit pricier quickly!
Since the Early Birds are all gone, I can wait to see just how good it gets before deciding to take the plunge.
Right now, I'm still leaning towards sitting this one out - Kingdom Death takes a lot longer to recover from than I initially thought!
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Post by: Makaleth
Ah yes, KD. Still waiting on that Pledge Manager. Getting the games but probably not any optional stretches this time for Zombiecide.
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Post by: kenshin620
Human Kirk is now unlocked, 9k till the first player thingy
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Post by: Tresson
Well those went fast. All the $2000 levels are gone and only one of the $1500 level is left.
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Post by: kenshin620
We're going to need more stretchgoals now...
Seriously the day isnt even over yet
Though I do foresee a dry period after this weekend, unless they start rolling out the extras
Actually I'm surprised unlike the other CMoN KS that this so far has no options for 'multiple' pledge levels. Like an Inmate x2 or something
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Post by: Azazelx
So who is Thaissa supposed to be? We've got Dirty Harry, Fat Steven Segal, but I can't tell who she is supposed to be?
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Post by: kenshin620
Oh boy extra zombies. AND IT BEGINS! Interesting though that even if you're at inmate you'll get the toxic zombies stretch. Thats nice of them
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Post by: NecronLord3
Azazelx wrote:So who is Thaissa supposed to be? We've got Dirty Harry, Fat Steven Segal, but I can't tell who she is supposed to be?
Girl from Inception I think.
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Post by: ecurtz
Does that mean there will be a flamethrower weapon as well? I can't recall anyone else armed with a weapon not in the game. It would be nice if they include more of the alternate sculpt basic zombies as well just for balancing out the hordes.
The Aunt Rose survivor is a little too silly for my taste, but I love the zombivor version so good enough. By my count there are now almost as many new survivors as originals (including all the optional promos we haven't gotten yet.)
At first I thought Thaissa was Alice from Resident Evil, but it's been pointed out she looks almost exactly like Bridget Fonda from the the poster for Point of No Return.
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Post by: DaveC
Yeah I think Thaissa looks most like Bridget Fonda from the Assassin/Point of no Return (Remake of Le Femme Nikita)
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Post by: RiTides
NecronLord- I don't think Thaissa looks like any of the actresses in Inception (assuming you meant the movie...?).
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Post by: ecurtz
Although since Guillotine Games are French you'd think they'd just do Nikita instead of the crappy American remake if that's the case, so maybe she's just generic sexy action heroine.
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Post by: mrgrigson
Managed to grab an Inmate early bird, then got around to reading all of the options. Was already shut out of EB Fugitives, and wound up going with EB Wake the Dead. It's making my head bob back and forth since I'll need to wait until September for my season 1 set while my local game store has a copy of it RIGHT NOW. That, and my copy of Sedition Wars is still sitting in the hobby pile, unassembled and unloved.
In the meantime, thanks to all the early support, Kicktraq has the project trending towards...
Eleven...
MILLION...
Dollars!
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/coolminiornot/zombicide-season-2/
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Post by: RiTides
Which is why Kicktraq's models Really need to be fixed (I know a trend isn't a prediction, but still...).
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yeah except Kicktraq assumes that the current pledge rate will stay the current pledge rate. The first three days will see heaps of pledges, and then it'll settle to nothing for 12 days, then a big stretch will hit and it'll jump for a day or two, then nothing for another 10 days, and then jump again in the last two days.
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Post by: Alpharius
I think HBMC-traq is far more accurate!
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Post by: kilcin
Herp derp, ignore me.
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Post by: ecurtz
Dangit, I was all set to post a picture of Angela Lansbury from when she was young and smoking hot in support of your mistake.
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Post by: kilcin
Thanks, for some reason I just crossed in my brain who Azazel was talking about.
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Post by: General Seric
Wow, that went fast, over $420,000 in less than a day. I think I will wait and see on this one, though the extras should be insane with this one, seeing as it is on its way to easily make over $1 million, so I expect I will either be in for Prison Break or Prison Break+ Toxic City Mall by the end.
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Post by: Azazelx
 kilcin wrote:Thanks, for some reason I just crossed in my brain who Azazel was talking about.
Yeah sorry, I forgot to mention Angela Lansbury.
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Post by: Rotgut
The fat Steven Seagal had me cracking up! I am hoping for a lot more characters!
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Post by: DaveC
Well from the teasers we know that there is a Foxy Brown type character and the Twins yet to come plus the Zombie Box 3 and TCM tile set some or all will be paid extras.
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Post by: chang_1910
hey.. I recently got zombicide (loved it), and new to KS;.and was wondering for some guideness
1. where in the name of heaven do i find this 2 expansion (and the doggie ). I went all over the KS web and can only find the abominatin pack (which I missed)
EDIT: found the link to the project in this pages .. so, I just "bank this project" for x amount depending what I want, select what I want and in sept 2013 is mine? right?
On a side note
1. how you guys/gals print the custom card, so they blend with the rest of the cards in the game
2. which program is use to make this custom cards? I want to make one that aloud the player to use the pan to cook 2 ingredient; can`t find a link to custom cards.
Thx
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Post by: kenshin620
chang_1910 wrote:
1. where in the name of heaven do i find this 2 expansion (and the doggie ). I went all over the KS web and can only find the abominatin pack (which I missed)
Err the current Season 2 Kickstarter
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/zombicide-season-2?ref=category
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Post by: whalemusic360
DaveC wrote:Yeah I think Thaissa looks most like Bridget Fonda from the Assassin/Point of no Return (Remake of Le Femme Nikita)
I thought she had a Sigourney Weaver from "Paul" look personally.
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Post by: chang_1910
I think the browser at work is blocking something because the search project does not work for some reason in KS website..anyway... thx, that was a fast reply
I just found the link in your pages and edit my comment.. as soon as i get home from work, I`m getting one pack hopefully one with the dog will be still available Automatically Appended Next Post:  adamsouza wrote:Beat me to it DaveC!!
I'm going to put an Eye Patch on Brad and call him the govener.
lol... BRAVO!!
we alreday have rick, and now the Govener
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Post by: DaveC
Well that's $500k in under 24 hours.
Next up first optional survivor - Dakota - she's 1 of the 2 ladies in rear view in the spoiler above. $10 option plus the Zombivor version at $530k
and the complaints have started about the artwork being overly sexualised already! Full artwork here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/zombicide-season-2/posts/418471
More runners is good, adding red dice now is a bit of a strange choice though.
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Post by: Bacms
I assume that is not Pamela. I am in at the moment for all the three base games. But I am short of money so unless a miracle happens I will have to drop the pledge or go for a lower pledge. I missed the zombicide campaign which is the reason I am up for the three games. also managed to miss the early bird pledges which really annoyed since I couldn't be on the computer at the time they launched it.
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Post by: DaveC
Well CMON finally made an official statement about Season 1 promos - done not coming back.
Creator CoolMiniOrNot just now
Just to reiterate, the exclusive promos from last year are done. We won't be reissuing them, just like we won't reissue the exclusives for this one. Gullotine Games and us would rather look forward than back.
Also, if you want multiples of the optional items, that's just fine.
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Post by: timetowaste85
DaveC wrote:Well CMON finally made an official statement about Season 1 promos - done not coming back.
Creator CoolMiniOrNot just now
Just to reiterate, the exclusive promos from last year are done. We won't be reissuing them, just like we won't reissue the exclusives for this one. Gullotine Games and us would rather look forward than back.
Also, if you want multiples of the optional items, that's just fine.
This actually makes me quite sad, as a completionist. I was hoping to get access to the KS guys from the last go around. Oh well, maybe ebay...
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Post by: Bacms
As much as I wanted them this was to be expected. Otherwise the purpose of being limited miniatures disappear. They can even be available at conventions and such but only in a more limited run that they would be if given during this kickstarter
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Post by: timetowaste85
Just looked on ebay and they're $50+ a pop. Ouch, no thanks.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
buying them now is the worst possible time to do so
like buying Kindgom Death stuff on ebay during that KS, prices were up 50%+ compared to what they were going for prior to that (they're still up a bit now, but only 10-20% and falling)
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Post by: DaveC
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:buying them now is the worst possible time to do so
like buying Kindgom Death stuff on ebay during that KS, prices were up 50%+ compared to what they were going for prior to that (they're still up a bit now, but only 10-20% and falling)
Agreed now is the worst time to try and pick them up at a reasonable price while there is so much interest in them due to the new KS. Prices will settle later but they will become harder to get.
No amount of money will part me from mine and I never even thought of buying them for resale nor will I get any extras this time for that purpose. I got 2 of each of the Sedition Wars promo but again they are not for resale.
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Post by: timetowaste85
I could be wrong, but I don't see them going below $15 each, and that's about my maximum limit on these guys. After all, I can custom build my own if I needed, and DL the rules from Guillotine, so that's the limit of worth to me. Others might find it higher. I'll still keep an eye on ebay and try to snag some for a cheaper cost, if possible. There were only 3, right? Machete, Sheldon and one other guy.
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Post by: DaveC
There was also the 4 paid extras Marvin, Eva, Claudia and Ivy
plus the stretch rewards Eagle, Troy and Cardboard Tube Samurai
these are not due to be shipped to backers until April and they are also exclusives not to be rereleased.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
That's really cool that they got designer boxes
well done guiloteen on that
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Post by: paulson games
Good lord over $500k in one day.
I am so happy to be getting to fat Segal so quickly
Although he does need a trenchcoat.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
you need a fat segal in the 'actual real police man' uniform too
just for extra laughs
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Man, people really will complain about anything. They're complaining about boobs, and they're complaining about the totally-the-same-as-last-time $10 price point.
I just wish we knew when the Season 1 backers were getting all the extra survivors.
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Post by: Aeneades
H.B.M.C. wrote:I just wish we knew when the Season 1 backers were getting all the extra survivors.
CMON posted an updated last week. The survivors / zombivors left China either last Friday or will be leaving tomorrow. Then looking at about a month to reach the US (I am not certain if any are going to the UK to be posted). So I would expect them late April or early May which puts them right on schedule (Q2 2013 was the advertised date on the KS).
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Not one hundred percent on this one at the mo, still haven't tried the game yet as I was waiting for all the extras. Now this is up, I suspect I'll have to give it a go, as if it is as fun as many are making out I'd hate to miss out on a load of goodies.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
It's heaps of fun. We've played it twice, and ended up playing it pretty much all day both times. It's kind of chaotic with you have 6 surviors going at once.
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Post by: kenshin620
Hmm judging from the previous stretches, I'm guessing the next stretch to be revealed is 2 berserker runners. And then sometime after that a toxic fatty, then a berserker fatty, then the abominations. Ooh it might be nice if they gave us the 2 new abominations as stretchgoals!
Heck I wonder if the alt sculpt zombies might get added as a stretch
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Well we're not far away from another set of dice.
So this is another set of dice on top of the set of dice we already got plus the dice that will be in the Prison Outbreak box... plus all the dice from the first KS.
Do we need so many dice???
As an aside – with the Zombicide dice, what do you count as 1’s and what do you count as 6’s: Heads or Moltovs?
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Post by: kenshin620
Hey some people need dice like you need board tiles
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Post by: DaveC
You can never have enough dice - well actually you can it is kind of overkill at this stage (i have 18 dice from the first game alone) but if it has to be more dice Toxic Green would have been better than Red which are too similar to the standard red dice and yet I have a feeling we may yet see Green dice and a 3D first player token for the Prison Outbreak box.
Next up is likely to be 2 Beserker runners and probably the other female survivor previewed with Dakota. Then extra Fatties and Abominations at some point. The KS still has 28 days to run yet!
Molotov's are 6s, Zombie heads are 1s
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Post by: Kroothawk
So enough time to make a Sarah Palin survivor
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I see your point!
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Post by: Makaleth
Need?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
New goal:  This one won't exactly set the world on fire, but for those without the first Zombicide game or those not getting it and just getting Prison Outbreak, having more regular Zombies is always a good thing.
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Post by: kenshin620
By the end of this they'll give us 70% more zombies than the base box And yet we'll still run out of zombie models and they'll all start moving twice
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
They've just got to make sure they give us more cards!!!
And less than $1000 'til we hit $600k.
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Post by: notprop
I do love Zombicide, these two boxes look sweet but having missed the early birds I figured I'd hold off from backing imediately and see how it developes. This however has given me time to mull over a few things;
True now that the stretch goals are going over like an old man in the snow there is more incentive to chip in, but I did have some severe reservations as to how much the base inmate deal was worth. $150 + $35 p&p is allot for a game and it's expansion. The $100 for prison break is about £66.50 and zombicide can be bought for allot less than that for example. So add in the dogs and you should have a figure the roughly equals RRP here, plus p&p.
CMoN doesn't particularly giver thier KS backers much in the way an advantage over regular buyer in terms of advancement though granted guaranteed supply is a given. This also ignores the fact that they did sell Zombicide at Gencon before forfilling KS backers, though commercially I can understand this decision.
The $35 for p&p outside of the US gives me some consternation. True this now avoids import taxes which cost me a similar figure on season 1 but this presumably is happening as they have EU based distribution. I guess this is supplied direct from China so can't imediately see why this isn't inclusive ala US internal distribution.
Am I prepared to for another 80 odd emails from the charming folks at CMoN?
No biggies really, I'll certainly still be backing this (if I can find room for more boxes and the Mrs doesn't find out!) but having been through the CMoN KS mill once before I'm hesitant to jump in feet first again.
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Post by: Aeneades
 notprop wrote:The $35 for p&p outside of the US gives me some consternation. True this now avoids import taxes which cost me a similar figure on season 1 but this presumably is happening as they have EU based distribution. I guess this is supplied direct from China so can't imediately see why this isn't inclusive ala US internal distribution.[
From CMON (It's in the FAQ at the bottom of the Kickstarter page) -
We will be able to ship within the EU from the UK. Shipping will still cost the same as we'll need to deal with customs and VAT on your behalf if you're in the EU and to pay our shipping service.
This will mean that you won't have any issues with possible customs queries, additional tax or other hassles, making the whole experience that much smoother!
They have to pay additional taxes on what they import to the UK which they don't have to do with the US shipments which is what out postage costs cover (rather then actual postage)/
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Post by: Slinky
I missed out originally, so I am in for Raise the Dead to get Season 1 along with the new stuff.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
notprop wrote:
The $35 for p&p outside of the US gives me some consternation. True this now avoids import taxes which cost me a similar figure on season 1 but this presumably is happening as they have EU based distribution. I guess this is supplied direct from China so can't imediately see why this isn't inclusive ala US internal distribution.
They still need to charge P&P because when you bring a shipping container into the UK the importer gets hit with a bill for VAT at 20% (and possibly import duty too, depending on what catagory it counts as), not a cost they need to worry about in the US. So while i'd love free EU shipping I can see why they don't offer it
Edit: Ninja'd
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Post by: Slinky
So the US impose no import taxes at all?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
They do have some import taxes on some stuff (the equivalent out our import duty, although what gets taxed may not be the same)
but not any equivalent to our VAT on imported goods which is where the big money maker for the government is(,
it's one of the reasons everything looks cheaper in the states
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Post by: Salacious Greed
Not as stiff as yours if it is 20%. It started with Bill Clinton lowering the tarriffs here, and most manufacturers fled the US for cheaper labor. Cars are really the highest tarriffed imports for the US, which is why so many foreign companies have plants in North America now. Other than that, it is cheaper to have things made in China and import them to moderate to ridiculous prices for the manufacturing cost.
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Post by: Triple9
I'm in at Fugitive right now, but not really seeing the benefit of staying there instead of lowering my pledge to Inmate. I'll stick around for a bit longer before lowering it, but CMoN should get out front and put some exclusives out for Toxic City Mall.or add-ons to the Fugitive Level and above.
Up to now, it looks like Inmate is the sweet spot and buying Toxic City Mall after general release makes more sense.
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Post by: Bacms
Triple9 wrote:I'm in at Fugitive right now, but not really seeing the benefit of staying there instead of lowering my pledge to Inmate. I'll stick around for a bit longer before lowering it, but CMoN should get out front and put some exclusives out for Toxic City Mall.or add-ons to the Fugitive Level and above.
Up to now, it looks like Inmate is the sweet spot and buying Toxic City Mall after general release makes more sense.
This is even more true if you consider the first zombicide game. I am in at the moment to get the three games but it seems that there is zero advantage in picking zombicide through the kickstarter rather than from retail. I am paying extra $70+$10shipping for a game I can pick at retail at the same price whenever I want it
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Post by: Aeneades
Triple9 wrote:I'm in at Fugitive right now, but not really seeing the benefit of staying there instead of lowering my pledge to Inmate. I'll stick around for a bit longer before lowering it, but CMoN should get out front and put some exclusives out for Toxic City Mall.or add-ons to the Fugitive Level and above.
Up to now, it looks like Inmate is the sweet spot and buying Toxic City Mall after general release makes more sense.
They said pre-kickstarter that the Inmate level (only Season 2) would be the sweet spot as they didn't want to set it for both TCM and Season 2 as it would be too expensive for some people. The Fugitive level is just there for those who want to get both expansions via the kickstarter but wont be offering any extra then pledging at Inmate level and buying TCM locally.
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Post by: kenshin620
Though while there was that little bit of selling zombicide through that one convention, I think zombicide state wise still shipped out before most retailers got them. So Fugitive might get Mall expansion faster
I think, if I'm wrong correct me
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Post by: endtransmission
Triple9 wrote:This is even more true if you consider the first zombicide game. I am in at the moment to get the three games but it seems that there is zero advantage in picking zombicide through the kickstarter rather than from retail. I am paying extra $70+$10shipping for a game I can pick at retail at the same price whenever I want it
Where are people finding the original for the equivalent of $80 in the UK? Everywhere I've found so far has it for at least £63 +P&P, normally higher?
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Post by: Bacms
I cannot find it anymore either but I could find on eBay for £59 inc shipping. So yes still a bit more expensive than the $80 but not much and you can pick whenever you want leaving you with more free money to pledge for the kickstarter Automatically Appended Next Post:  endtransmission wrote:Triple9 wrote:This is even more true if you consider the first zombicide game. I am in at the moment to get the three games but it seems that there is zero advantage in picking zombicide through the kickstarter rather than from retail. I am paying extra $70+$10shipping for a game I can pick at retail at the same price whenever I want it
Where are people finding the original for the equivalent of $80 in the UK? Everywhere I've found so far has it for at least £63 +P&P, normally higher?
Sorry actually just found it http://www.fantasyboardgames.co.uk/zombicide-2713-p.asp
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Post by: endtransmission
Sorry, I should have clarified that with *in stock*, or at least letting you order one
I'll email them and see if they plan on getting any back in though, thanks!
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Post by: Kroothawk
620.000$ reached, new stretch goal 650.000$ (the new sculpts used in both goals BTW):
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Post by: kenshin620
Sweet new sculpts, they looked like they were the old ones
But where are the berserker runners!
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Post by: notprop
kenshin620 wrote:Sweet new sculpts, they looked like they were the old ones
But where are the berserker runners!
And runners need to be made bezerkers why?
Ye gads man, like they arent blooming lethal enough as it is! 
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Post by: PrimarchX
Got down with the sickness today. I thought it opened today but it looks like it has been on since Saturday. :<
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Post by: Cyporiean
I was always surprised that cameo wasn't in the original batch.
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Post by: Theophony
That is correct good sir. But local sales taxes can sometimes suck, but if you order from outside your state and they don't have a location inside your state then no sales tax. One of the reasons that I'd buy from thewarstore.com instead of miniaturemarket.com because mm is local an I'd pay the 8-9% sales tax on their product.
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Post by: endtransmission
DaveC wrote:And now we have Fred of the Dead as an optional purchase, he should be popular been waiting for a Shaun alike to appear.
He needed to come with boards for a pub and a card for deadly throwing vinyl, but cool none the less!
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Post by: Rotgut
Aw I wasn't planning on getting any of the optional survivors but how can I pass up Fred?
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Post by: DaveC
More "news"
Creator CoolMiniOrNot 2 minutes ago
General replies: If you want to tack on TCM to your early bird (Inmate), just up your pledge by $50. No need to give up your spot.
We can't ship Season 1 earlier because we're out of stock
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
TCM?
And, more highlights from the comments. There's someone yelling at CMON because these optional figures are a form of "extortion". Some people have no brains at all...
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Post by: DaveC
TCM = Toxic City Mall
Season2 / PO = Prison Outbreak
I'm finding the whole extortion conversation very funny to read, guys dug himself a hole and just keeps digging down.
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Post by: Alpharius
TCM = Toxic City Mall, yes?
Inmate level doesn't already include it...
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
What it boils down to is a college kid who has very little money and therefore feels justified in complaining that he has to pay for things.
Talk about 1st World Problems... Christ...
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Post by: DaveC
Alpharius wrote:TCM = Toxic City Mall, yes?
Inmate level doesn't already include it...
Inmate is the $100 (or $90 Early Bird level) and includes Prison Outbreak and Zombie Dogz but not Toxic City Mall. It's supposed to be the sweet spot level for this KS as the focus is on Season 2 as TCM was already funded from the first KS funds but most people have gone for the Fugitive level ($150) which also contains TCM as well. All stretch rewards are for Inmate and higher levels even were it has ended up with the weird situation were Inmate backers get extra Toxic zombies even though they aren't getting TCM. It's also been noted that Fugitive gives no saving over Inmate as you are adding $50 for TCM which is the retail value of TCM anyway and you might get it cheaper at an online discounter later however I know in my case when conversion rates and shipping are added to online discounters it makes little difference so I might as well get the whole package now and get it before it hits retail.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I think it'll be cheaper to those of us in my part of the world, as the shipping charges on the KS are next to nothing compared to 'real world' shipping costs.
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Post by: Rotgut
H.B.M.C. wrote:What it boils down to is a college kid who has very little money and therefore feels justified in complaining that he has to pay for things.
Talk about 1st World Problems... Christ...
You are hitting the nail on the head with first world problems.
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Post by: Skorne
As a KS newbie & a Zombicide fan can I ask a quick question about pledging? I've pledged $185 so far for Fugitive level and shipping to Ireland.
In order to get the additional models of Dakota & Fred, do I just go into KS and up my pledge amount by $10 for each figure?
Also when does KS take the money from my Visa, I pledged on Saturday night, but there are no pending transactions on my Visa card yet.
Thanks!
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Post by: kenshin620
Skorne wrote:As a KS newbie & a Zombicide fan can I ask a quick question about pledging? I've pledged $185 so far for Fugitive level and shipping to Ireland.
In order to get the additional models of Dakota & Fred, do I just go into KS and up my pledge amount by $10 for each figure?
Also when does KS take the money from my Visa, I pledged on Saturday night, but there are no pending transactions on my Visa card yet.
Thanks!
Yes, just up the pledge by the desired amount
The beauty of KS is that they take money at the end of the Project, so that failed KS do not collect money
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
The money is only taken when the KS is over, so in 20-something days time.
And yes, you just go into the 'manage your pledge' bit, add $20, and then go through the Amazon thing and you're done.
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Post by: Aeneades
Skorne wrote:As a KS newbie & a Zombicide fan can I ask a quick question about pledging? I've pledged $185 so far for Fugitive level and shipping to Ireland.
In order to get the additional models of Dakota & Fred, do I just go into KS and up my pledge amount by $10 for each figure?
Also when does KS take the money from my Visa, I pledged on Saturday night, but there are no pending transactions on my Visa card yet.
Thanks!
They wont take your money until the end of the campaign and only if it is successfully funded (which this one already is). To add on the extra 2 characters you just need to increase your pledge amount by $20, you can do this using the "Manage Pledge" option on the top right hand corner of your screen.
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Post by: Scarper
Hey Skorne!
That is indeed how you would get the bonus models - a 'menu' type list goes out once the kickstarter is finished and you email them with what you wanted your pledge to pay for. And you can expect that pledge amount to rise and rise as they release more cool stuff!
No money at all is taken til the Kickstarter is finished - better make sure you've got some cash in the account in about a month's time!
Wow, triple ninja'd! I need to up my typing speed 
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Aren't we all so helpful!
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Post by: kenshin620
We've all had training from the 1st Zombicide, Sedition Wars, Rivet Wars, etc
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Post by: adamsouza
We are at $663,178.00 and they haven't even rolled out the compulsory Walk of the Dead's #1-5, or add-on dice, etc...
Haven't even showed a preview pic of the Dogz yet.
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Post by: DaveC
adamsouza wrote:We are at $663,178.00 and they haven't even rolled out the compulsory Walk of the Dead's #1-5, or add-on dice, etc...
Haven't even showed a preview pic of the Dogz yet.
Saving the big guns for when things really slow down, they pushed out Fred today just as things were slowing a bit.
I've a feeling the Box of Zombies will probably be at the full $20 retail price as they are optional extras I'm hoping for $15 but expecting $20. I have enough of the original zombies and they are throwing a load of the alt. normal zombies in so I'll pass on those two and is more than 20 Dogz really necessary?. I'll probably pick up the Toxic Crowd #2 and Beserker Boxes. I'll also double up on the tiles I hope the TCM set is only $10 as it's only 4 tiles plus counters where as the Season 2 set will be $20 for 9 tiles and counters like season 1.
I have a feeling that the Dogz and Season 2 Survivor sculpts aren't done and/or finished yet as they have only shown artwork and box mock ups to date hopefully there are a few different dog sculpts.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I hope they’re not dividing this into two waves again, especially as it appears Toxic City Mall is done (or near to done) and it requires either Zombicide (which not everyone has) or Prison Outbreak (which isn’t done yet).
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Post by: kenshin620
While TCM is probably more done that Prison, since both are part of this "season 2 KS" I think it makes sense to release both at the same time
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Post by: DaveC
CMON has confirmed that everything so far ships together in September - and that includes Season 1 if it's part of your order. If it gets to the point that they need to add a second shipping wave they'll flag it when those products are added.
oh and $710k is the extra 2 Beserker runners.
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Post by: kenshin620
Yay finally!
Guess I should expect extra fatties (expect, oh my getting greedy here... ) by 800-900k and extra abominations by 1 million
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Berserker Runners... *shudder*
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Post by: ecurtz
I actually suspect they won't do extra abominations this time. The new special abominations sound crazy powerful and the extra from the original isn't used in anything but a couple add-on scenarios.
I do expect fatties though, and then a second round of all the walker and runner varieties.
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Post by: Skorne
Thanks for all the replies folks.
Just to clarify I've pledged the initial $185 and have a receipt for it. For the optional pieces, take Fred & Dakota for example. Am I correct in saying I now have to pledge $205, which will then override my initial $185.
Sorry if I'm a bit slow on the uptake, I'm after doing 14 hours of transatlantic flying in the past 48hrs and I'm on heavy cold medication, decongestants, painkillers and antibiotics at the moment.
Thanks for all your help so far
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
1 extra A-Bomb of each type would be great though.
So if you were in the first KS you could do a scenario with 4 A-Bombs, 2 Toxic A-Bombs and 2 Berserker A-Bombs, and nothing else.
Every playing panics! Automatically Appended Next Post: Skorne wrote:Just to clarify I've pledged the initial $185 and have a receipt for it. For the optional pieces, take Fred & Dakota for example. Am I correct in saying I now have to pledge $205, which will then override my initial $185.
Correct, and if you change it again (up or down), it always overrides the last one, and whatever the alst one was gets charged when the KS ends.
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Post by: kenshin620
ecurtz wrote:I actually suspect they won't do extra abominations this time. The new special abominations sound crazy powerful and the extra from the original isn't used in anything but a couple add-on scenarios.
Who cares game wise! Getting 3 extra abominations would be worthy stretch goals for the +$1 Million areas (Plus if we get some Damage 3 weapons then extra Abominations wouldnt be so bad to have appear)
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Post by: Skorne
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Skorne wrote:Just to clarify I've pledged the initial $185 and have a receipt for it. For the optional pieces, take Fred & Dakota for example. Am I correct in saying I now have to pledge $205, which will then override my initial $185.
Correct, and if you change it again (up or down), it always overrides the last one, and whatever the alst one was gets charged when the KS ends.
Cool,
I've upped my pledge to include Fred & Dakota.
Think the best thing to do now is to set up an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of the optionals and prices, then up the pledge towards the end according to the list.
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Post by: kenshin620
Though dont feel pressured to get all the exclusives/add ons
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Post by: adamsouza
Extra Abominations always come in handy. I've played games with 3 on the board at once. Although, I must admit I won't be heart broken if they don't show, I'm pretty sure they will. They are already sculpted, it's just a matter of casting more, so it's an economically reasonable stretch goal for them.
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Post by: Fenriswulf
I thought in the rules it stated that there can't be more than one Abomination on the board at the one time?
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Post by: kenshin620
Fenriswulf wrote:I thought in the rules it stated that there can't be more than one Abomination on the board at the one time?
House rules 
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Post by: CptJake
adamsouza wrote:Extra Abominations always come in handy. I've played games with 3 on the board at once. Although, I must admit I won't be heart broken if they don't show, I'm pretty sure they will. They are already sculpted, it's just a matter of casting more, so it's an economically reasonable stretch goal for them.
It really matters how the tooling/molds are set up. If there is one Abomination per mold which also includes X runners and Y walkers it isn't going to be easier to cast just more Abominations. What I suspect is the stretch goals for extra zombies (to include Abominations) is going to end up being the equivelent of the contents of the Zombie Mold, similar to how it appears to have been in the original Kickstarter.
Jake
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Post by: timetowaste85
I pledged for $150, but since the $50 game is just an add-on currently, I'll get it from my SLGM (semi-local game store) and give him the business, so $150 now goes for the $100 level, the 2 $10 characters, and $30 floating toward new goals. Huzzah, everybody wins! If I've got the correct jist of the differences between the $100 and $150 pledges, that is.
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Post by: Fenriswulf
Yeah I am beginning to think that there is less benefit from taking the $150 pledge comparative to the $100 one. Thus far all you'd miss out is the first turn player skull, but that's no real great loss. Might pull mine back and save the cash for add on characters.
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Post by: Rotgut
So 740k stretch is fattys not featured in a base set, interesting.
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Post by: kenshin620
Rotgut wrote:So 740k stretch is fattys not featured in a base set, interesting.
Oh great so now there going to be x3 normal fatty models
We need more!
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Post by: endtransmission
Hmmm I wonder. With the freebies so far, are we basically building up to a later stretch goal fleshing it out so they just give everyone one of each of the Box of Zombies?
For example, so far for the basic set we've had 8 walkers, 4 runners and soon 2 fatties. The addition of 6 walkers, 2 runners and 1 fattie makes it the same content as Walk of the Dead. I could see that being a later stretch goal released at the same time as allowing WotD to be added as an extra.
The toxic and berserkers are at a lower model count so far, but not too difficult to expand with future stretches and makes packaging it all up a doddle.
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Post by: adamsouza
Fenriswulf wrote:I thought in the rules it stated that there can't be more than one Abomination on the board at the one time?
Those rules were written with a box only containing one Abomination in mind. I have two boxes with an additional Abomination. It would have been a shame to let them go to waste.
Makes things interesting. Automatically Appended Next Post: Beserker runners in, Fatty's on Deck
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Post by: Kroothawk
Backer icons and avatars! Show your Zombicide love!
Update #13 · Mar. 05, 2013
To use these, right click on them and save it to your computer. Then upload the saved pic into your Kickstarter profile, Facebook or other sites to help spread the word! Are you team TCM, PO or optional Survivor?
20 more in spoiler tags:
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Post by: Element206
Awesome...I love this game!
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Post by: DaveC
Ah good stuff more Fatties. I wonder if they will roll the extra Toxic and Berserker Fatties into one stretch goal we're probably only going to get an extra 1 of each (these have been at half the number of the normal zombies) so 1 Toxic Fatty and 1 Beserker Fatty combined goal. I don't see them giving 2 of each over 2 goals and the complaints will be unbelievable if they offer a single Fatty for a $30k stretch goal - 1 Abom for $30k they'll get away with but I don't think they would for Fatties.
And there's this from GG Facebook
We are preparing a HUGE surprise if we reach a certain level in Kickstarter.... but I will not tell you... for now... MUAHAHAHHA
.. and no worries for your wallets... it will be free and something really new ... Well I said too much already...
$781,598 perhaps?
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Post by: Alpharius
Either that or $2,049,722 maybe?
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Post by: kenshin620
What about $3,429,235 Speaking of an extra pack of zombies, I do get the feeling they might put up a set/sets of zombies as add ons similar to their season 1 zombie pack. They can release at least 3 of them here
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Post by: Alpharius
I still see KD as the 'real' boardgame champ, as awesome as Reaper's KS was...
I think Dave's got it right though - the number to beat might be the old Zombicide total for the hinted at 'cool thing'.
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Post by: DaveC
If it is $781,598 I wonder if they'll go straight from $740k to $781,598 if it's really that good there probably won't be to many complaints about a $41,598 stretch goal - they might even throw out some paid options to get there quicker.
It's probably a bit early to be hinting at a $1m or $2,049,722 goal.
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Post by: Alpharius
DaveC wrote:If it is $781,598 I wonder if they'll go straight from $740k to $781,598 if it's really that good there probably won't be to many complaints about a $41,598 stretch goal - they might even throw out some paid options to get there quicker.
It's probably a bit early to be hinting at a $1m or $2,049,722 goal.
Yes and no - look at the pace this thing is on!
But realistically, I can't see this one getting too much past a million (!) as there's only so much that can be added on, especially if you factor in the CMON Formula that they tend to follow rather closely.
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Post by: ecurtz
I expect it to go about twice the original, maybe 1.6 to 2 million. The average pledge level is higher and there should be more people as well. If they announce a $781,598 goal soon I'd expect it to pass that today, otherwise tomorrow.
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Post by: scarletsquig
It helps that The Walking Dead is back on TV currently, I think. :p
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Post by: Azazelx
H.B.M.C. wrote:I think it'll be cheaper to those of us in my part of the world, as the shipping charges on the KS are next to nothing compared to 'real world' shipping costs.
$93 for the Original Zombicide plus $10 postage isn't too bad.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Id guess at something around 1mil
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Post by: whalemusic360
I like how the metal dudes own arm is in the background of his avatar pic
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Post by: DaveC
Guillotine Games announced on Facebook that they'll reveal the surprise once it hits $730k
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Post by: Sirius42
I am all over this kickstarter like a fat kid on cake, but I still can't work out who thalissia is supposed to be? I've had loads of answers but nothing I can see seems to work. Loving Shaun but we need Ed, and a bar tile.
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Post by: Rotgut
DaveC wrote:And here's the surprise
Get 6 companion dogs free! 3 great sculpts of man's best friend (you'll get 2 each), who'll do all kinds of stuff for your beleaguered Survivors. One of the most requested items from our first Kickstarter... we've kept these canine cuddlies under wraps until now!
That is truly awesome!
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Post by: DaveC
Campanion Dogs will be available as purchasable extra soon.
Creator CoolMiniOrNot 4 minutes ago
Yes they'll be available as options, suggested MSRP $15. We'll give it some time to settle in before we update the front page with them.
EDIT I missed the rules page here we go:
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
They look super cool! Very fun.
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Post by: Skorne
 Sirius42 wrote:I am all over this kickstarter like a fat kid on cake, but I still can't work out who thalissia is supposed to be? I've had loads of answers but nothing I can see seems to work. Loving Shaun but we need Ed, and a bar tile.
She's supposed to be Bridget Fonda's character from Point of No Return / the Assassin
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Post by: Azazelx
So are the dogs a freebie, or an add-on only? (I know they'll also be an add-on even if a freebie.)
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Freebie & Addon-on Extra
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Free and an optional add-on.
How will the KS commenters complain about this one, ey?
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Post by: kenshin620
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Free and an optional add-on.
How will the KS commenters complain about this one, ey?
Not enough Corgis!
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Post by: recruittons
Yup. No husky? No corgi? Not even a single schnauzer! This is ridiculous. Pledge pulled! /s
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Post by: Azazelx
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Free and an optional add-on.
How will the KS commenters complain about this one, ey?
Making them free and an optional extra makes me much more likely to spring for another set for some reason. Probably the increased goodwill.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Also, no Rotweilers!
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Actually, in all seriousness, I do find that a bit odd since they have zombie rottweilers. Would have made sense
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Post by: adamsouza
 recruittons wrote:Actually, in all seriousness, I do find that a bit odd since they have zombie rottweilers. Would have made senselessness
The Rottweiler breed was more susceptible to the zombie condition than other breeds
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Post by: General Seric
The dog companions seem like they will be a great addition, something to help the survivors with all those toxic and berserker zombies coming....
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Post by: notprop
What next, dog companionivors?
And on the topic of guessing I'm going to tip my hat to circa $1.4M. They will pulling extra backers based on the previous KS, loose a few originals but most will be back @ +50% for the "full" package. Automatically Appended Next Post: Woof, woof, woof.
What is it zombie Lassie, You want brainzzzzz?
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Post by: Sirius42
Skorne wrote: Sirius42 wrote:I am all over this kickstarter like a fat kid on cake, but I still can't work out who thalissia is supposed to be? I've had loads of answers but nothing I can see seems to work. Loving Shaun but we need Ed, and a bar tile.
She's supposed to be Bridget Fonda's character from Point of No Return / the Assassin
Thanks for that. Loving the new dogs goal, wonder what's next?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Maybe a stretch goal to change it from 2x3 dogs to 1x6 dogs, so 1 of each type. Add in a Huskie (call him Wolfy or Snowy), a Pit Bull (call him... Miami ) and a King Charles Spaniel ('cause they're so cute!!!).
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Post by: Sirius42
That would be a nice plan, perhaps also variants of zombie dog to match? I would also like to see a general increase in all amounts of zombies because I really don't want to run out of them anymore, running out of runners sucks. :p
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Post by: Kroothawk
H.B.M.C. wrote:How will the KS commenters complain about this one, ey?
kenshin620 wrote:Not enough Corgis!
recruittons wrote:Yup. No husky? No corgi? Not even a single schnauzer! This is ridiculous. Pledge pulled! /s
H.B.M.C. wrote:Also, no Rotweilers!
Where is Frazzled when you need him
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Post by: Dribblie77
I want a pug!!!
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Post by: CptJake
I was going to suggest a bull terrier, but mine won't get out of bed for the Zombie Apocalypse... 
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Post by: RiTides
Okay, the "good guy" dogs is pretty cool
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Post by: Conrad Turner
Nah. I want zombie Jack Russel Terriers! The zombie dogz version of a toxic runner!
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Post by: recruittons
I would love a zombie jack russel! I think zombie poodles would be ridiculous and fun
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Post by: adamsouza
Cooked up this image of all the models included at Fugitive with the add ons
Considering that the Toxic Abomination converts regular zombies into Toxic ones, I'll need more toxic zombies.
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Post by: DaveC
So someone found the next Optional Survivor artwork - It's the missing "Twin"
I'll put it in spoilers in case you want to wait until $781,598 and be surprised!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Lindsay Lohan?
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Post by: ecurtz
Emma Stone - Wichita from Zombieland
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Post by: DaveC
Emma Stone - don't read if you don't want to know! well we are $3k or so away now.
EDIT: Ninja'd by ecurtz!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yep, I see it now.
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Post by: whalemusic360
I'm hoping we get a crossover for hitting sed wars and relic knights, assuming we do. Kinda hoping for some more minor goals, like alt cars as well.
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Post by: DaveC
I would like to get another version of Candy for my collection - I have every version available or that will be and Kara would be great as well I really didn't think she'd end up in KD:M but not sure if they'd end up in Zombicide. It makes sense for the cross promotion brings in more backers that want to collect all versions of them.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Dude, we could even have a Candy with a Cola companion dog!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
That's a great idea!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
There was candy and cola in kingdom death?
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Post by: adamsouza
Thanks for the heads up about Leia
Added her to the OP stretch goal list, and added a spoiler section with all the character bios.
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Well here's another to add:
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
I'm just gonna add the $10 for Lea now. Save time, and gets us closer to the Dog Companion stretch.
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Post by: Makaleth
Emma Stone, hilarious!
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Post by: recruittons
Same. Can't pass up Zombieland homage characters.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
*adds both tile packs* Is it safe to assume that the TCM pack comes with extra rubble/barricades, and the Prison Outbreak one comes with extra watch-towers and so on? And with 44 Zombicide tiles, I can now do a 6x6 grid.
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Post by: cincydooley
Haha. Saw that coming for HbMC.
Love the Wichita homage character.
Also glad to see I'm not the only one that really loves the crossover characters in the CMON Kickstarters.
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Post by: DaveC
H.B.M.C. I asked
they answered
Creator CoolMiniOrNot just now
Just like S1 the game tiles come with the full token set (cars, noise tokens, and for PO and TCM, barricades, rubble etc).
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Post by: recruittons
Yup, I got not-Shaun and not-Wichita because they're awesome!
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Post by: timetowaste85
As soon as I saw her, I called Emma Stone at my friend's house. His response was "who?" And he works at a movie/music/entertainment store (manager)... 
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
DaveC wrote:Just like S1 the game tiles come with the full token set (cars, noise tokens, and for PO and TCM, barricades, rubble etc).
Wunderbar!
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
Oh right I had forgot it, in my defense kingdom death was not my cup of tea, I just gave it the occasional glare.
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Post by: adamsouza
OP Updated to include new stretch goal and add-ons.
With all this exrta stuff available we are certain to see another big bump in pledges.
I'm glad they brought back the white, black, and glow in the dark dice, from the first kickstarter.
The zombie dogs have been in the Kickstarter from the get go, but we still haven't seen a single actual sculpt. I'm certain they will look great, but I'd really like to see them before the kickstarter is over.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
And that's $800k!!!
1
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Post by: Skorne
In terms of Tiles and Dogz, what would you recommend buying? I only have the base game which I got at Christmas. Would you recommend a set of each of the tiles?
What are your opinions about the Zombie Dogz / Dogs, I've already got a set of each included as part of my fugitive level pledge.
thanks
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
For playing the game you only need the inlcuded tiles. You don't need any more than that as none of the scenarios support 2+ tile sets. If you want to make your own scenarios with more than 1 set of tiles then that's fine, but I figure that Zombicide, TCM and the prison tiles will give you plenty. I'm getting extra tiles because I use them for things other than Zombicide, and being able to do a 6x6 city grid with full interiors will be very useful to me.
As far as the dogs... I'm not sure. On one hand, 20 dogs is a lot of dogs. On the other hand, if all 20 have been spawned and you draw a dog card, their extra turn is going to be painful...
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Post by: adamsouza
You won't ever use extra tiles unless you are going for an unusually large game, or unless you are trying to repeat certian tiles. You'll have 22 tiles Combining the tiles from Season 1 and 2 already.
You may use more than 20 dogz if your players are slackers and just let them roam the map, or in an unusually large game.
I'd double up on dogz before tiles.
That being said, I'm going in for double Fugitive myself.
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Post by: DaveC
I don't think there's much need for more than 20 zombie dogs if there's 20 on the board your already in a world of trouble! But extra activations for dogs will be a killer.
For dog companions 6 is probably plenty as , per the rules survivors can start with a dog and can swap dogs with other survivors they each take up 1 equipment space and a survivor could have 5 dogs if they want but no other equipment if your playing a game with more than 6 people and each wants a dog then may be a second pack is needed but it seems like overkill to have that many companion dogs available.
The tiles aren't necessary they are just handy if you want larger game boards or you want to use the 2 different sides of the same tile in a custom scenario - no official scenarios require 2 sets. The TCM pack seems to be the mist worthwhile as you only get 4 tiles in the box so doubling up allows for a bigger Mall.
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DaveC wrote:I don't think there's much need for more than 20 zombie dogs if there's 20 on the board your already in a world of trouble! But extra activations for dogs will be a killer.
Worth $20 to never know that agony
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Almost. That extra tray of Zombies we got with Season 1 has been the difference between wins and losses.
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Post by: adamsouza
We play with 2 Season 1 box sets, plus the extra tray. There can be hordes of undead to reckon with, but no one misses zombies getting activations.
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adamsouza wrote:We play with 2 Season 1 box sets, plus the extra tray. There can be hordes of undead to reckon with, but no one misses zombies getting activations.
Especially once red zone kicks in
"Wait, how many runners are on the map again?"
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Post by: Salacious Greed
It's funny to hear people attribute winning to having extra zombies instead of beating the game. LOL.
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Post by: adamsouza
It's a cooperative game. Your not really competing against anyone, other than the zombies. Triumphing against hordes of zombies only becomes Epic when the there are epic amounts of zombies to overcome.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
That and 'beating the zombies' isn't always the objective. Also:  [EDIT]: Talk about a good translation between art and physical And here are the rest:
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Post by: Makaleth
Wow, that's pretty impressive.
Not Kingdom Death impressive , wait, actually it's pretty close (And I still consider them the best at the moment)
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Bit of an unfair comparison. Zombicide minis are pieces for a board-game. They are generally of a lower quality because they're more 'board game-y'. Kingdom Death started life as high quality resin collector's miniatures that are now being done in plastic.
It's a bit like saying "My Jes Goodwin-designed Green Knight is better than those Pack'O'Army Men that you bought". Well duh!
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Post by: Fenriswulf
I really don't like the cheesecake female figures, especially Dakota with the gravity defying boobs.
I know it will be liked by others, but really not for me. Everything else looks cool.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Fenriswulf wrote:I really don't like the cheesecake female figures, especially Dakota with the gravity defying boobs.
I know it will be liked by others, but really not for me. Everything else looks cool.
To be fair, I went to school with a girl who had a chest like that: large and no sag whatsoever. Never wore a bra, never sagged. So "gravity defying boobs" like hers...they exist. I think they did a damn good job of making her quite attractive for a board game piece. Of course, it's not a good fit for everyone-but I think the model is solid. And tight. Lol
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Post by: kenshin620
timetowaste85 wrote:
To be fair, I went to school with a girl who had a chest like that: large and no sag whatsoever. Never wore a bra, never sagged. So "gravity defying boobs" like hers...they exist. I think they did a damn good job of making her quite attractive for a board game piece. Of course, it's not a good fit for everyone-but I think the model is solid. And tight. Lol
...
I dont suppose you have pictures do you
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Post by: cincydooley
Fenriswulf wrote:I really don't like the cheesecake female figures, especially Dakota with the gravity defying boobs.
I know it will be liked by others, but really not for me. Everything else looks cool.
Perhaps you've never seen the inspiration?
Potentially NSFW
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Post by: Makaleth
H.B.M.C. wrote:Bit of an unfair comparison. Zombicide minis are pieces for a board-game. They are generally of a lower quality because they're more 'board game-y'. Kingdom Death started life as high quality resin collector's miniatures that are now being done in plastic.
It's a bit like saying "My Jes Goodwin-designed Green Knight is better than those Pack'O'Army Men that you bought". Well duh!
Actually, this is exactly right... BUT!! I think they are comparable in design quality. This for me is the ultimate compliment for Zombiecide, it's almost as good quality as KD in design, that's huge.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
That and gravity-defying boobs do exist. They're called fake boobs. That's what they do.
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Post by: Fenriswulf
Yeah, that's what I was about to say.
I think I will still pass. I can always substitute their characters with other miniatures if they have a skill set that is completely necessary, but I don't think that will be the case.
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Post by: Azazelx
Fenriswulf wrote:I really don't like the cheesecake female figures, especially Dakota with the gravity defying boobs.
I know it will be liked by others, but really not for me. Everything else looks cool.
Aside from gravity-defying boobs, some women do actually have the implants that do that to them. It's a game set in a pulpy-modern universe, so it fits a lot better than on the typical fantasy figure.
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Post by: timetowaste85
kenshin620 wrote: timetowaste85 wrote:
To be fair, I went to school with a girl who had a chest like that: large and no sag whatsoever. Never wore a bra, never sagged. So "gravity defying boobs" like hers...they exist. I think they did a damn good job of making her quite attractive for a board game piece. Of course, it's not a good fit for everyone-but I think the model is solid. And tight. Lol
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I dont suppose you have pictures do you
Ugh, I looked her up on Facebook, and the past decade has not been kind to her. She was attractive in HS (fethed in the head though: she slept with her own brother), but MAN is she unattractive now- got very large, and just totally went to hell. What a waste...
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Post by: DeChevalier
So, the Original Zombicide KS was in April/May of last year... followed closely by Sedition Wars...
Does anyone else think we might see Sedition Wars: Part Deux after this KS??
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Post by: Aeneades
According to Studio McVey Sedition Wars expansion is going to go the usual retail route rather then kickstarter.
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Post by: grefven
Reading that the general consensus is that Sedition Wars was a disappointment, I don't see an expansion coming out too quickly. They obviously have a few items to polish.
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Post by: Bacms
grefven wrote:Reading that the general consensus is that Sedition Wars was a disappointment, I don't see an expansion coming out too quickly. They obviously have a few items to polish.
As one of the backers I have to agree with this. Even though I really think it was a massive overreaction as soon it started being shipped. People were expecting higher quality minis and higher quality components. Plus the rules were unplayable and a massive FAQ was dropped after a couple of weeks. Even with that the rules need to be start from scratch and rewritten. I haven't played the last campaign though so it may have improved since
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