Oh, if the Oathmark skellies are still big enough to be significantly larger than those, they should fit in perfectly with many historicals actually; even better. Already did a druidy Frostgrave warband using Celtic historicals some years ago; might build on that further.
Coenus Scaldingus wrote: Liking the look of those Revenants though. Those Oathmark undead are shaping up to be rather a great range.
Except, if they are similar in size to the skeletons, they are small as hell.
It kind of stands to reason, though: people usually have those things inside themselves, plus some other stuff
Right, but if they are not in scale with other manufacturers then everything looks odd. Especially with those of us who have decade spanning collections.
It really depends, I think, on your priorities. If your priority is to create minis for your game instead of other peoples', well, it doesn't matter much.
I mean, take GW for example, their minis aren't even in scale with their minis of the same range, FFS.
Oh, if the Oathmark skellies are still big enough to be significantly larger than those, they should fit in perfectly with many historicals actually; even better. Already did a druidy Frostgrave warband using Celtic historicals some years ago; might build on that further.
Highlord Tamburlaine holds an Oathmark skeleton next to a WA skeleton in his latest Obscurities in Miniature painting progress video, and the Oathmark skeleton looks smaller than I was prepared to believe in comparison. They might be a match for the Warlord Tomans after all.
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How do oathmark dwarf torsos matchagainst oathmark human torsos?
The dwarven heavy infantry looks like it has some torsos I'd be keen to cut off and put on the legs of some of the humans if they were the proper scale with each other.
For that matter I'm assuming that all the frostgrave stuff is also the same scale as oathmark?
Albino Squirrel wrote: Those are just not very good. Especially the horses, though the riders are pretty weak too. But you have to have 1/3 of your horses falling down.
I hadn’t noticed that, but now I’m chortling.
Looks like a bunch of Artaxes in search of some mud.
Hmmm..
I have plenty of spare horse head bits leftover, some mud-textured paint, and some spare cavalry bases. GB’s heavy Arab cavalry come with spare torsos heads and arms... I think I just found a way to really stretch that cavalry box value.
Proof of concept for Artaxian cavalry. Make these the front row, then the diving horses next, followed by horses who don’t know what’s about to happen to them.
This might sound weird, but I think those revenants are too buff. They're not withered enough. They look like normal humans painted grey with skull-ish faces.
I wish they had gaunt, mummified limbs to match their heads, with the armor hanging onto shrunken torsos.
Psychopomp wrote: This might sound weird, but I think those revenants are too buff. They're not withered enough. They look like normal humans painted grey with skull-ish faces.
I wish they had gaunt, mummified limbs to match their heads, with the armor hanging onto shrunken torsos.
I agree that the contrast between the skeletal heads and muscular limbs is rather jarring. I think they would look better with some of the arms from the skeleton kit and from the Frostgrave cultist sprue mixed in to give them more of an animated corpse aesthetic. On the plus side a head swap with human heads would give you mortal troops. I’m using Frostgrave cultists and WHFB chaos warriors alongside my Oathmark skeletons in an Oathmark army and these Revenants would fit in nicely however I choose to kitbash them.
LOVE those revenants! I need at least two box of them. I would be happy enough with chariot and undead cavalry...
On the other hand I'm planning to buy a box of human cavalry and use heads, weapons and shields from elven sprue in order to build light elf cavalry. Do you think will work?
I thought the Oathmark models looked too cartoonish for me but I was wrong. They don't have the oversized hands and feet of GW models. They're just a bit chunky/squat.
All the humans have a ton of character in their faces, it reminds me of Battle Brothers or The Banner Saga.
I know the Elves got dunked on in this thread but they look great too. Even if you don't play Oathmark, they could make nice Rangers for DnD or Robin Hood-esque characters. Both kits.
Very charming models and fun to build. I wish they would sell an entire sprue of alternate heads.
Elves are great with a very classic(al) looking. I'm just finishing to paint them! I love Northstar's kits, they are simple to put together but give enough variety to the troops.
Also looks like we can spot elf heavy infantry, elf cavalry, maybe dwarf light infantry (I think other glimpses of them feature mining picks, but they wear similar cloth outfits), maybe human heavy cavalry (can't tell if they're meant to be in the presently released full helmets or the full helmets seen on the maquette). I feel like I've seen art featuring all of these except for the elf cavalry before?
The human cavalry was a rare misstep in the range with the amount of copy/pasted bits, especially from a range that prides itself with cross-kit compatibility - so while it's nice to see elf cavalry in art, I'm crossing my fingers it won't feel lazy in plastic.
North Star/Osprey keep hitting it out of the park with these and the various *grave line of multi-part plastic kit boxes. So far my only real issue has been the overfed wolves.
It's a new take. Fastidious zombies. Just because you're dead you don't have to let yourself go!
Look at the Ice King from A Game of Thrones, he wasn't desiccated and falling apart, his minions were in pretty decent shape as well....except their faces. Only the grunts were torn apart and dirty/covered in dried/frozen gore. So I guess it's just how you want your lords of undeath to look.
I suppose it does make kitbashing them with other undead kits a little harder, but I don't really mind their fresher look. It's either more like they returned from the realm of the dead in a very physical sense, or like they were brought back much closer to life than the typical skeleton nerd through more powerful magic.
It gives them a bit of a niche among undead kits which I do appreciate. You can kitbash them with other human kits more easily, too. Give them new heads and you've got perfectly decent generic Evil Warriors, or perhaps some kind of half-orcs.
It's a new take. Fastidious zombies. Just because you're dead you don't have to let yourself go!
Look at the Ice King from A Game of Thrones, he wasn't desiccated and falling apart, his minions were in pretty decent shape as well....except their faces. Only the grunts were torn apart and dirty/covered in dried/frozen gore. So I guess it's just how you want your lords of undeath to look.
Which doesn't exactly work if you paint them in the colours of living humans, i suppose.
Do we already have some info on their weapons? Just from the artwork, they seem to have the exact same options as the regular dwarf infantry minus the shields and chainmail.
the regular dwarf infantry has spears, though. some of the guys in the back of that picture, by the waterfall, appear to have shields. so these might have bows, two-handed weapons and hand weapons plus shields.
Do we already have some info on their weapons? Just from the artwork, they seem to have the exact same options as the regular dwarf infantry minus the shields and chainmail.
It is the kit for the Border Guard and Militia so 2 handed weapons and Bows respectively for them.
Do we already have some info on their weapons? Just from the artwork, they seem to have the exact same options as the regular dwarf infantry minus the shields and chainmail.
It is the kit for the Border Guard and Militia so 2 handed weapons and Bows respectively for them.
Any chance at crossbows to use them as Dwarf Rangers?
Do we already have some info on their weapons? Just from the artwork, they seem to have the exact same options as the regular dwarf infantry minus the shields and chainmail.
It is the kit for the Border Guard and Militia so 2 handed weapons and Bows respectively for them.
Any chance at crossbows to use them as Dwarf Rangers?
No, as these kits only have options described in their entries in the Oathmark rulebook.
Those bodies look surprisingly dynamic - not sure if I like them for archers, but they'll look great wildly swinging the pickaxes, shovels and hammers as unorganized militia, or adventurers in a little rpg/skirmish game.
Good set for a book-accurate Thorin's Company too (none of these silly near-beardless Dwarves they had in the Hobbit movies, ugh). No armour, and I would imagine them carrying some tools around which can be used as improvised weapons.
this does indeed look like a very good generic dwarf set. you want models for some labourers or tavern militia? here you go. they'll make for perfectly serviceable skirmishing archers, too, although maybe that sort of thing is somewhat rare in fantasy wargames.
I'm still annoyed by the lack of musician bits but I'll deal because even with that flaw the Oathmark line is really hitting its stride now.
Just a heads up, Miniature market has a sitewide (except GW and pre-orders) 10% sale because of Gencon going on right now. If you have been eyeing some of these kits then heres a chance to grab them a little cheaper state side.
Will all factions get the same unit classes? Can we expect Human/Goblin Heavy and Light infantry and Elf/Dwarf Cavalry eventually?
Human Heavy is given but the rest is doubtful because so far they are doing only ones that have stats already in the books. It may change only when the Heavy Cavalry will be introduced for other races in one of the future books.
I think it seems obvious that they'll do elf cavalry at some point. Dwarf cavalry and goblin heavy cavalry are a little less obvious because they're not quite as staple to fantasy in general but it's hardly completely wild.
Hmm. Dwarf militia are OK? I like that they seem to be using tools as weapons.
I'd like to see a bit more armour though. At least the occasional simple round helmet. Padded armour on some of them. Militia shouldn't be just cannon fodder, and at least in my head, every dwarf who might have to serve in the militia will at least attempt to scrounge or scavenge or make some very basic armour, even if they don't have high-end kit or full coverage.
Ian Sturrock wrote: Hmm. Dwarf militia are OK? I like that they seem to be using tools as weapons.
I'd like to see a bit more armour though. At least the occasional simple round helmet. Padded armour on some of them. Militia shouldn't be just cannon fodder, and at least in my head, every dwarf who might have to serve in the militia will at least attempt to scrounge or scavenge or make some very basic armour, even if they don't have high-end kit or full coverage.
Based on all the previous releases, they'll be compadible with the armored dwarves already out so you can easily mix the heads or bodies to make some of them a bit more military minded. All of the kits so far have had plenty of extras, especially heads and weapons
Ian Sturrock wrote: Hmm. Dwarf militia are OK? I like that they seem to be using tools as weapons.
I'd like to see a bit more armour though. At least the occasional simple round helmet. Padded armour on some of them. Militia shouldn't be just cannon fodder, and at least in my head, every dwarf who might have to serve in the militia will at least attempt to scrounge or scavenge or make some very basic armour, even if they don't have high-end kit or full coverage.
Based on all the previous releases, they'll be compadible with the armored dwarves already out so you can easily mix the heads or bodies to make some of them a bit more military minded. All of the kits so far have had plenty of extras, especially heads and weapons
Plus i think these hit a niche that you do not see very often and that is minimally armored dwarves. The next closest would be the fire dwarves from AOS and they are almost naked
I like the option of having unarmored Dwarves. An angry Dwarven civilian mob for more than just Oathmark. You can always kitbash with the other sets for more armor.
Ian Sturrock wrote: Hmm. Dwarf militia are OK? I like that they seem to be using tools as weapons.
I'd like to see a bit more armour though. At least the occasional simple round helmet. Padded armour on some of them. Militia shouldn't be just cannon fodder, and at least in my head, every dwarf who might have to serve in the militia will at least attempt to scrounge or scavenge or make some very basic armour, even if they don't have high-end kit or full coverage.
Based on all the previous releases, they'll be compadible with the armored dwarves already out so you can easily mix the heads or bodies to make some of them a bit more military minded. All of the kits so far have had plenty of extras, especially heads and weapons
Plus i think these hit a niche that you do not see very often and that is minimally armored dwarves. The next closest would be the fire dwarves from AOS and they are almost naked
Ian Sturrock wrote: Hmm. Dwarf militia are OK? I like that they seem to be using tools as weapons.
I'd like to see a bit more armour though. At least the occasional simple round helmet. Padded armour on some of them. Militia shouldn't be just cannon fodder, and at least in my head, every dwarf who might have to serve in the militia will at least attempt to scrounge or scavenge or make some very basic armour, even if they don't have high-end kit or full coverage.
Based on all the previous releases, they'll be compadible with the armored dwarves already out so you can easily mix the heads or bodies to make some of them a bit more military minded. All of the kits so far have had plenty of extras, especially heads and weapons
Plus i think these hit a niche that you do not see very often and that is minimally armored dwarves. The next closest would be the fire dwarves from AOS and they are almost naked
Those militia Dwarves look fantastic, really is a Dwarf model that is not widely produced.
With their stellar Oathmark range and versatile Frostgrave kits, Northstar seem to be on a very prosperous trajectory. They have over the years started to become my go to company for plastic fantasy kits.
Rosebuddy wrote: There are five helmeted heads on the sprue, anyway.
Oh that makes all the difference -- thank you.
I thought there were only four first, but then some of the painted pictures revealed that one of the heads simply has a hood pulled up over the helmet. That's good enough for me, though.
EDIT: Actually, wait, there are six helmeted heads on the sprue because the champion head is an unhooded helmet with little horns on it. So zero problems with helmets.
This plastic kit is perfect to reproduce Tolkien's The Hobbit dwarfs with hoods.
Once again models' design is inspired to ME and that 's something I like A LOT.
Now that these are out I'm looking forward to see the 'Orcs'. From that art posted a while ago I'm actually hopeful they will allow me a bit more versatility in making veteran (human) frostgrave knights
stonehorse wrote: Anyone heard any news on the plastic Orcs? Feels odd that we are seeing the Undead stuff being released before we see a race from the core book.
stonehorse wrote: Anyone heard any news on the plastic Orcs? Feels odd that we are seeing the Undead stuff being released before we see a race from the core book.
I read april somewhere
Fingers crossed- hopefully some kind of preview happens soon.
stonehorse wrote: Anyone heard any news on the plastic Orcs? Feels odd that we are seeing the Undead stuff being released before we see a race from the core book.
I read april somewhere
Fingers crossed- hopefully some kind of preview happens soon.
One line mention in the latest North Star newsletter, Orcs in April.
apparently those come from the latest rules book, or at least that's what was mentioned on the lead adventures forum. (I don't own the books, I just like the minis for RPG purposes)
I think that means they are a good indication of what is to come- particularly since with the orcs you have 5 very prominant body types which have torso costume features repeated on background figures.
Which is great, as they seem very useful for some Hyborian era conversions!
Quite sad about this game. I love it so much but it is so difficult to find NS miniatures in Italy. Moreover McCullough and Osprey seem to have forgotten it.
Johanxp wrote: Quite sad about this game. I love it so much but it is so difficult to find NS miniatures in Italy. Moreover McCullough and Osprey seem to have forgotten it.
Hopefully not, the plastic kits are great for fantasy gaming. Even if Oathmark as a game doesn't sell well (no idea whether it is or not), the miniatures work in a multitude of other systems. Which I imagine means they sell well.
Hopefully we get to see some Orc preview pictures soon enough.
They make for some great generic minis - I use them in RPG's alot as they mix perfectly with frostgrave minis, and the knights and wizards frostgrave kits are great at giving alot of options for player characters.
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stonehorse wrote:
Hopefully we get to see some Orc preview pictures soon enough.
Same. I was hoping we would at least have pictures by now, as I'm really looking forward to them.
First peek at one of the new Oathmark Orc champions, a metal figure designed by Michael Anderson to compliment the new plastic box set coming out late June/ early July, Orc Infantry.
If ind the legs and arm proportions a big weird, but I think I can replace those easily enough- the torsos seem to be giving me pretty close to what I was hoping for.
I think that in general the Oathmark stuff is more rooted in Tolkien, for which there isnt really much (if any) real difference between orcs and goblins.
Honestly, I reckon it's only with DnD that a real difference began because it was needed for the game - but only truly took off with Games Workshop.
And I'm okay on turning back the clock a bit on both DnD and GW. They have their product and tons of imitators and heavily influenced creations anyway.
I don’t understand the love for these at all. The heads seem weirdly-proportioned, the expressions dim, but not in the way you would laugh at in public, the bodies static and tired looking, the proportions neither well done nor committed to heroicism of scale, the detail on the heads soft to the point where you can’t tell what’s hat or hair. Your human armies feel slightly ashamed for slaying them. And they don’t bring much new that the goblin kit or WGA’s orc kits didn’t already bring, except for even dumber faces.
"They're like the goblins but larger" is perfectly fine with me, I'm putting together the goblins for LOTR orcs anyway and am happy to get some matching uruk-hai.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I don’t understand the love for these at all. The heads seem weirdly-proportioned, the expressions dim, but not in the way you would laugh at in public, the bodies static and tired looking, the proportions neither well done nor committed to heroicism of scale, the detail on the heads soft to the point where you can’t tell what’s hat or hair. Your human armies feel slightly ashamed for slaying them. And they don’t bring much new that the goblin kit or WGA’s orc kits didn’t already bring, except for even dumber faces.
FOr me it's the torsos, weapons and shieds. The legs can be fized with some conversion work, but for someone who's not a sculptor getting a good torso to work with as a start is important.
But i don't plan on using them as orcs at all, but rather as a basis for human mercenaries. It's worhpointing out though that Oathmark doesn't get the best heads for whatever reason. I find the heads on the human kit rather lame, and even the elves are just kind of passible. I was hoping the quality of the kits was going to be closer ot that of the recent frostgrave stuff, and am crossing my fingers that this doesn't mean the frostgrave stuff is going to go back down in quality.
I was just looking at the upcoming Osgiliath release. 24 orcs. 24 humans. 1 troll. Plus terrain and the books.
Oathmark could replicate the figures with just two infantry boxes and one of the metal trolls they produce for less than $100 (doesn’t include terrain or books obviously).
Northstar have just teased that they'll be showcasing the new plastic Goblin Slaves
If you are visiting Colours at Newbury on Saturday, I'll have some samples of the new plastic Frostgrave Barbarians, the new plastic Oathmark Goblin Slaves, Mark's Little Soldiers and the new Frostgrave constructs for you to have a look at, pop by have a look and say hello.
lord_blackfang wrote: Anyone have an idea of size? Wondering if they could pass for humans in rags too with a headswap.
Oathmark goblins here which I assume are the same size as slaves. If you are like me and your humans are GW/Mantic/Fireforge fantasy sized than the slaves will be tiny, more like hobbits than humans.
Oathmark goblins would be roughly the height of a Northstar or other 28mm/28mm heroic human if standing upright, but they're very hunched over. They very much match some interpretations of Tolkien uruks, while the Oathmark orc kits match the descriptions of uruk-hai, standing upright and being the height of a man or slightly taller.
If used next to some of the modern "28mm heroic" lines that are actually pushing 32-35mm, then yes, the Oathmark goblins will be tiny.
I seem to recall Nick at North Star said in an interview that they intended to make Elven Cavalry at some point.
Found it…
“Nick Eyre: What’s next for Oathmark? I feel like we’ve hardly started. Joseph McCullough has already written supplement 1 which introduces the Undead into the Oathmark world, and he’s planned to carry on with that. In regard to the figure range, we began 3 years ago on this project and have a release schedule that stretches on years ahead. In essence, there will be a plastic box set supported by metal characters for every troop type in the book. I don’t know if we’ll achieve it, but that is the plan. There are two box sets planned for the Undead, and the other sets on the work bench are Human Cavalry, Dwarf Light Infantry, Elf Cavalry, Orc Infantry and Goblin Light Infantry.”
I wish they would make a human heavy infantry, mostly just to see what the design would be like.
(And assuming it would get a similar quality that frostgrave kits get. I've noticed that in general, the Oathmark kits aren't as uniformly good as the frostgrave and stargrave kits are, after they started to use digital sculpting for those kits.)
I ordered the Oathmark Orcs off of Amazon. Got a gift card from work... so figured why not. Ordered on 10/21... Amazon said my orcs would come today... but then they cancelled my order this morning saying they did not have it in stock... but then the listing on Amazon still shows in stock and went up $10... :(
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Just noticed the Goblin slaves have different head joints than Frost Grave dudes. Their necks stick out, while FG models have holes the heads glue to.
That can be overcome with a knife and some work but I think I'll stick with Cultists to make my Morlocks.
The Undead and Orcs & Goblins have the necks on the bodies for Oathmark minis, Humans and Elves have the necks on the head pieces, Dwarves are something else entirely.
KipCujo wrote: I thought this bump meant the Elf Cavalry was finally in preview - this is decidedly disappointing in comparison lol
I'm not sure how high we should let our expectations soar for the elf cavalry. Very likely to follow same setup as other cavalry kits where the arms and heads are exactly the same as the infantry..
Also a decent chance the horses are ugly mutants like the human cavalry horses.
Oh yeah you're fully right - I was joking more about how odd it seems to put out a metal shield set for teeny little flimsy plastic skeleton arms to hold! I'm already breaking arms just by breathing on them wrong.
KipCujo wrote: Oh yeah you're fully right - I was joking more about how odd it seems to put out a metal shield set for teeny little flimsy plastic skeleton arms to hold! I'm already breaking arms just by breathing on them wrong.
I was looking at picking up some oathmark skeletons for skirmish and I already have several of their plastic kits. Are skeletons (without the metal shields) super fragile, then?
Exaggeration for effect, really - I haven't found them to be much more fragile than other skinny skeletons I've worked on (and to be frank, I'd rather fragile skinny skellies than the sturdy tree-trunk-boned monstrosities some manufacturers make). I just might recommend a small spot of proper plastic glue in the joints instead of Tamiya thin cement like I used. I popped arms off a lot while painting because the surface area of the join is pretty tiny. Based on my experience, my visceral reaction to dangling those metal conversion shields off their arms is pure nausea, but as a standalone plastic kit it's my favorite skeleton on the market.
Northstar put out a preview image of the oathmark elvish cavalry.
Also new sets for the future include Orc Line breakers, Human Militia/ rangers, Human Heavy cavalry, and the possibility of war machines, and a new dragon.
Also new sets for the future include Orc Line breakers, Human Militia/ rangers, Human Heavy cavalry, and the possibility of war machines, and a new dragon.
That's a nice list, I just hope I live to see it
How long ago were Slave Goblins? I've not ever actually seen them in stock at the stores I shop yet, and I've been actively looking.
Also new sets for the future include Orc Line breakers, Human Militia/ rangers, Human Heavy cavalry, and the possibility of war machines, and a new dragon.
That's a nice list, I just hope I live to see it
How long ago were Slave Goblins? I've not ever actually seen them in stock at the stores I shop yet, and I've been actively looking.
They were november-ish last year.
I get everything for oathmark direct now, as its difficult to find anywhere else. Costs a fortune in postage but I tend to wait for their buy 5 boxes for 4 deals when a new set comes and they knock the VAT off as well now so its not as bad. The free box softens the blow of the extra postage.
Warlord games stock them and do free EU postage (I think after €100 spend)
Also new sets for the future include Orc Line breakers, Human Militia/ rangers, Human Heavy cavalry, and the possibility of war machines, and a new dragon.
That's a nice list, I just hope I live to see it
How long ago were Slave Goblins? I've not ever actually seen them in stock at the stores I shop yet, and I've been actively looking.
They were november-ish last year.
I get everything for oathmark direct now, as its difficult to find anywhere else. Costs a fortune in postage but I tend to wait for their buy 5 boxes for 4 deals when a new set comes and they knock the VAT off as well now so its not as bad. The free box softens the blow of the extra postage.
Warlord games stock them and do free EU postage (I think after €100 spend)
Will check out Warlord games. I used to buy from Neverboard in Ireland, but sadly they closed recently.
Also new sets for the future include Orc Line breakers, Human Militia/ rangers, Human Heavy cavalry, and the possibility of war machines, and a new dragon.
That's a nice list, I just hope I live to see it
How long ago were Slave Goblins? I've not ever actually seen them in stock at the stores I shop yet, and I've been actively looking.
They were november-ish last year.
I get everything for oathmark direct now, as its difficult to find anywhere else. Costs a fortune in postage but I tend to wait for their buy 5 boxes for 4 deals when a new set comes and they knock the VAT off as well now so its not as bad. The free box softens the blow of the extra postage.
Warlord games stock them and do free EU postage (I think after €100 spend)
Will check out Warlord games. I used to buy from Neverboard in Ireland, but sadly they closed recently.
Ah thats a shame about Neverboard, I wondered why they hadn't been posting up on facebook recently. I only used them occasionally though.
Hobbymad do frostgrave stuff, might be worth dropping them an email to see if they would get in oathmark when they do their next stock up. Good store for paints & things, very quick for getting stuff out quickly.
If ye are not in a hurry with warlord games, place your order in December as they tend to do some good deals during the month. You get points that add up very quickly for money off vouchers, free postage to EU over the spend amount and they tend to chuck in a free sprue and what ever the monthly mini is. I got super lucky and when ordering most of the 2000ad games last December and came away with an entire set of Doctor Who remembrance of the Daleks minis and a lot of 'buy two get one free deals' on the sets due to the holidays!
Of course it has its downsides- I had a lot of points to claim vouchers, which meant I had to place even more orders!
Fantastic models, can't wait to get my hands on them. Love the new shield designs as well. Unless I've missed counted, it does seem like there is only 4 helmet plumes, which is a tad annoying, but I will likely use some of these kits to convert up woodland realms calvary as well, so I'll end up with spares. 6 horse tails though, so its a strange sprue design choice.
I'd been hoping that this pre-order would have had the previous buy 5 boxes for the price of 4 like they've done a few times for past releases, as I'm desperate for a few more boxes of goblin slaves!
''Oathmark Elf Cavalry.
There will be characters coming as well as the plastic box set, here's the first picture of them.
4 metal characters mounted on plastic horses.
You'll be able to order them from this Friday.''
I think that the game would benefit from a new rulebook - a cleaned version, with all found errors/inbalances corrected, and Undead faction included there. Expansions should be left for campaigns etc.
I love this game but I am not happy at all about game support. A plethora of miniatures is still missing and only 2 supplements in 4 years (I guess). Surely it is not the most successful game Osprey and Northstar ever produced but at the same time they do not push it in any way.
Johanxp wrote: I love this game but I am not happy at all about game support. A plethora of miniatures is still missing and only 2 supplements in 4 years (I guess). Surely it is not the most successful game Osprey and Northstar ever produced but at the same time they do not push it in any way.
It doesn't need a constant barrage of new supplements. New minis are on the way, but they will take time as its not like Northstar have millions sitting there to take the risk of making the entire range in plastic kits from day one.
There is a good steady set of small updates that is put out by Joe for the game, which is pretty decent considering its not even his game any more (as he left working for Osprey). He's put these out on his blog or in his 'Old bones' magazine.
It would be nice to see more miniatures put out, but there are enough plastic kits out there that pretty much everything is already covered for the game anyway.
Human Militia/Rangers per Northstar's sale e-mail.
This is going to be a bumper year for Oathmark. We plan to release at least three new Plastic box sets, the Human Militia/ Rangers, the Orc Heavy Infantry and the Elf Heavy Infantry. All three will come with metal characters as normal.
and
Frostgrave will have a new plastic box set, Cultists II. There's also a new supplement in the first half of 2024, it's not 'new figure heavy', so we won't have a massive figure release to go with it, but we're trying to coincide the book with the new plastic figures. Stargrave has a new plastic box set; Scavengers II, being made right now, and that will come with some new metal characters.
Excited for girl cultists and girl scavengers but not really for any of the upcoming Oathmark kits. Would prefer them branching into a new race, or plastic monstrous infantry. Heck, North Star already makes plastic Gnolls and Snakemen, make a second kit of either of those and turn them into a fully fledged faction.
I like the hooded heads. I hop there is enough for all or most on the sprue. I really dislike their non-helmeted heads on the human infantry set.
I am excited for Cultists II and Scavengers II (I know not Oathmark related). On a side note, I got a box of Oathmark orcs... my intention being to use WA heads and make them human mercs... I was not very successful though as the models are hunched and a bit barrel chested so despite the heads being roughly correct size-wise, they look very tiny on the orc bodies... and the orc arms are very long, so while arent overly "orcy" they dont give a good human look to the overall model.
Smokestack wrote: On a side note, I got a box of Oathmark orcs... my intention being to use WA heads and make them human mercs... I was not very successful though as the models are hunched and a bit barrel chested so despite the heads being roughly correct size-wise, they look very tiny on the orc bodies... and the orc arms are very long, so while arent overly "orcy" they dont give a good human look to the overall model.
Orc were a big dissapointment for me. Basically upright Goblins. IMO Elves, Dwarves and Undead are the best Oathmark products, although I like Goblin slaves too.
Smokestack wrote: On a side note, I got a box of Oathmark orcs... my intention being to use WA heads and make them human mercs... I was not very successful though as the models are hunched and a bit barrel chested so despite the heads being roughly correct size-wise, they look very tiny on the orc bodies... and the orc arms are very long, so while arent overly "orcy" they dont give a good human look to the overall model.
Orc were a big dissapointment for me. Basically upright Goblins. IMO Elves, Dwarves and Undead are the best Oathmark products, although I like Goblin slaves too.
Agreed. I have 3 more sprues though, so may just have them for half-orc bad guys in RPGS.
Smokestack wrote: I like the hooded heads. I hop there is enough for all or most on the sprue. I really dislike their non-helmeted heads on the human infantry set.
I am excited for Cultists II and Scavengers II (I know not Oathmark related). On a side note, I got a box of Oathmark orcs... my intention being to use WA heads and make them human mercs... I was not very successful though as the models are hunched and a bit barrel chested so despite the heads being roughly correct size-wise, they look very tiny on the orc bodies... and the orc arms are very long, so while arent overly "orcy" they dont give a good human look to the overall model.
What does the neck join on the orcs look like? I'm sure you could get a human head to fit.
Can't wait to get the new sets into the store. Cavalry are on the way now from my distributor.
Smokestack wrote: I like the hooded heads. I hop there is enough for all or most on the sprue. I really dislike their non-helmeted heads on the human infantry set.
I am excited for Cultists II and Scavengers II (I know not Oathmark related). On a side note, I got a box of Oathmark orcs... my intention being to use WA heads and make them human mercs... I was not very successful though as the models are hunched and a bit barrel chested so despite the heads being roughly correct size-wise, they look very tiny on the orc bodies... and the orc arms are very long, so while arent overly "orcy" they dont give a good human look to the overall model.
What does the neck join on the orcs look like? I'm sure you could get a human head to fit.
Can't wait to get the new sets into the store. Cavalry are on the way now from my distributor.
Its a ball... its kind of like a smooshed ball that sticks out a bit... Its easy enough to cut to accept the WA heads... the Fireforge northmen heads are probably better size-wise for them.
I was hoping Oathmark would add some unarmoured Humans. I love how characterful the heads are, which is why I generally use Frost/Star/Oathmark heads over any of the Fireforge heads (I do like their bodies and arms though).
More Cultists is great news too.
I bought a box of Orcs, but I have not made up my mind about them yet. I think the thin arms bother me.
lord_blackfang wrote: Excited for girl cultists and girl scavengers but not really for any of the upcoming Oathmark kits. Would prefer them branching into a new race, or plastic monstrous infantry. Heck, North Star already makes plastic Gnolls and Snakemen, make a second kit of either of those and turn them into a fully fledged faction.
Judging by the author's personal blog and some of the rules commentary, if it's up to him, then it is unlikely to happen as he really seems to dislike having any of the "out there" races in his setting. Although I agree that the Oathmark would greatly benefit from some more unique profiles for the units.
Smokestack wrote: I like the hooded heads. I hop there is enough for all or most on the sprue. I really dislike their non-helmeted heads on the human infantry set.
I am excited for Cultists II and Scavengers II (I know not Oathmark related). On a side note, I got a box of Oathmark orcs... my intention being to use WA heads and make them human mercs... I was not very successful though as the models are hunched and a bit barrel chested so despite the heads being roughly correct size-wise, they look very tiny on the orc bodies... and the orc arms are very long, so while arent overly "orcy" they dont give a good human look to the overall model.
You should look at A Song of Ice and Fire Targaryen Pit Fighters (bare arm bare leg sand raggedy armor) or Greyjoy Stony Shore Pillagers (more standard dark ages attire but mismatched weapons). I also use my Bolton Cuthroats or Stormcrow mercs as mercs in other games. Bloody mummers also work well imo.
Funnily enough I ended up liking the Orc kit more than I thought. The chunkier arms makes it easier to use them with slightly larger scale miniatures.
I don't like any of the Oathmark human kits. The heads seem too large to my eye, and the horses are some of the worst I've seen. The rangers/militia suffer from the same problem. Hooded heads almost always look bad on multipart miniatures when turned to the side.
I'm glad they are releasing more kits though. More bits available is always good.I hope they keep expanding their existing races. I'm really looking forward to the Orc Heavy infantry!
I really like the Ork kit. It is reminiscent of the Orks as they are described in the Orks fantasy books (Stan Nicholas) as more humanoid, it's nice to have the alternative.
This is going to be a bumper year for Oathmark. We plan to release at least three new Plastic box sets, the Human Militia/ Rangers, the Orc Heavy Infantry and the Elf Heavy Infantry. All three will come with metal characters as normal.
I wasn't expecting Orc heavy infantry but I've seen the Elf heavy infantry art around and have been waiting for them for ages.
The Human rangers look pretty good, could use some posing work when putting them together. I'll probably buy some for MESBG.
Very excited for the releases this year - the Elf Heavy Infantry art is wonderful and if it translates well to the models I think it will be my favorite Oathmark box.
The Human Light Infantry is going to be great for bashing three ways with the Infantry/Cavalry sprues, which mainly suffer from repetition of heads/arms. I'm a little disappointed that they hedged on the side of "ranger" instead of "militia" with the bodies, since too many Oathmark figures make for really awkward archers oddly holding up a single arrow or hugging their bow to their belly and I vastly prefer the way they look assembled with melee weapons. If only the rules were written for Human "scouts" instead of "rangers", I think we would've gotten a more ramshackle looking body without full cloaks for them all.
The sprue looks good. i am happy that there is enough hooded heads for all... as I dont like the helmeted heads... even these the helmeted heads look almost a different scale to the hooded ones. I like the weapons, Kind of wish there was at least 1 more spear on the sprue. with 5 sprues to a box, 5 spears out of 30 is not ideal. I dont mind the cloaks, but agree that without the cloaks they would have been more versatile.
These bodies will also make great apprentice wizards when combined with the wizard box.
This is going to be a bumper year for Oathmark. We plan to release at least three new Plastic box sets, the Human Militia/ Rangers, the Orc Heavy Infantry and the Elf Heavy Infantry. All three will come with metal characters as normal.
Ooh, that's great news; I was just in the process of planning some SAGA Age of Magic warbands, and while I loved the look of Oathmark's orcs (more so than the goblins), I was looking for some suitable elites to go with them as "Hearthguard". Instead of struggling to find out or simply praying whether some other manufacturer's minis will fit the bill, I will instead just wait a few months and have something that will likely be perfect for the job!
next week will see the launch of the Oathmark Human Light Infantry pre-order campaign. We've added some pictures here, make sure you join in next week!
Edit: Removed the picture since its the same one posted above... Quote is from a Northstar e-mail that also mentioned they are now the distributor for Westphalia miniatures... Who I really wish would offer their halfling winged hussars again...
Are there any new pics or renders.of the female cultists for frostgrave running around? The rangers are okay, but its thosebladies.Ibe been really looking forward to!
Man, playing primarily with miniatures that are more true scale (ASOIAF) has permanently altered how I see heroic proportion miniatures.
These guys look like absolute bobble heads to me.
It is kind of weird how they went with more heroic scale heads on their humans and more true scale heads on their orcs and goblins which have very small heads and would have benefitted from slightly larger heads imo.
That being said, I've really enjoyed many other Oathmark kits and wish them the best.
Yeah, I know what you mean. But once I get them painted and start playing with them I fall in love with them. I think heroic scale looks fine at tabletop distance. The prevalence of very close up pictures on the internet skews things I think, and especially if you're not a fantastic painter the exaggerated faces look more characterful generally.
But I think it's definitely a strong style choice they've made and I can see how it might be alienating.
I picked up their Elf Cavalry this weekend. Looking forward to building it for middle earth gaming.
It may be useful for some folks"
''North Star plastic spears.
What about these? 80mm long, 1.2mm diameter hard plastic. Probably work out about .17p a spear, on frames of 8.
With metal prices going up and up, we're finding our metal spears are getting more expensive every year, so we've looked to getting a plastic alternative.
We'll show you them in the hands of Crusader, North Star and Artizan Figures very soon.
What do you think?''
From their FB : "In the next week or so we'll announce the pre-orders for the new Orc Heavy Infantry for Oathmark, both the plastic box set and metal characters. Michael Anderson is also well underway with the Elf Heavy Infantry next.''
I've been holding back on getting their other orc&golblin sets because I want to mix and match them all, so when they release heavy orcs I'll probably get one of everything in the range.
There's pictures of what appear to be the metal figures going around but I haven't found it on their social media yet. One of the metal models is the wolf-pelt captain with a sword and severed heads.
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