As an "intelligent idiot", I don't know who she is or how bad the immigration issue really is. My BS klaxons are going off in the background though, and I can't seem to stop them.
Seriously. They won't stop, and it's hurting my head.
I normally judge most bloggy things by the quality of comments that appear on the site.
Metaphorically speaking his daughters should be stripped down, strapped over the hood of a jeep and left at the boarder with a sign that says, "welcome to America".
After all, is that not in essence what is happening in real time with all these illegal alien criminal drug addicted rapist being allowed into and shipped to "Smallville USA" all across our nation? Yes these rapist and drug dealers are being shipped to YOUR towns by YOUR President Barack Obama and the Democratic Party.
Think your daughters will be safe walking the streets now? Your wives? Your grandmothers?
Flash mobs. The "Knock Out" game. Now this.
This is your country people; time to take it back?
daedalus wrote: I normally judge most bloggy things by the quality of comments that appear on the site.
Metaphorically speaking his daughters should be stripped down, strapped over the hood of a jeep and left at the boarder with a sign that says, "welcome to America".
After all, is that not in essence what is happening in real time with all these illegal alien criminal drug addicted rapist being allowed into and shipped to "Smallville USA" all across our nation? Yes these rapist and drug dealers are being shipped to YOUR towns by YOUR President Barack Obama and the Democratic Party.
Think your daughters will be safe walking the streets now? Your wives? Your grandmothers?
Flash mobs. The "Knock Out" game. Now this.
This is your country people; time to take it back?
I... I do not think I have words for this.
EDIT: DAMNIT Soladrin, you ninja!!!
Glorious. Just glorious. You've inspired me to head to the comments section to wallow in their genius also.
obama will not give up the White House. Or is that the White Mosque now?
Just do not say "Take back our country" being it might be construed as being a racist
Judge Jeanine then accused the Obama regime, which claims to somehow be the “most transparent administration in history” of attempting to avoid protests like the ones in Murrieta, CA, by shipping illegals into “your state and your town, with no notice, under the cover of darkness.”
That's very true.
Situation in Lackland AFB is a medical nightmare alone.
daedalus wrote: I normally judge most bloggy things by the quality of comments that appear on the site.
Metaphorically speaking his daughters should be stripped down, strapped over the hood of a jeep and left at the boarder with a sign that says, "welcome to America".
After all, is that not in essence what is happening in real time with all these illegal alien criminal drug addicted rapist being allowed into and shipped to "Smallville USA" all across our nation? Yes these rapist and drug dealers are being shipped to YOUR towns by YOUR President Barack Obama and the Democratic Party.
Think your daughters will be safe walking the streets now? Your wives? Your grandmothers?
Flash mobs. The "Knock Out" game. Now this.
This is your country people; time to take it back?
daedalus wrote: I normally judge most bloggy things by the quality of comments that appear on the site.
Metaphorically speaking his daughters should be stripped down, strapped over the hood of a jeep and left at the boarder with a sign that says, "welcome to America".
After all, is that not in essence what is happening in real time with all these illegal alien criminal drug addicted rapist being allowed into and shipped to "Smallville USA" all across our nation? Yes these rapist and drug dealers are being shipped to YOUR towns by YOUR President Barack Obama and the Democratic Party.
Think your daughters will be safe walking the streets now? Your wives? Your grandmothers?
Flash mobs. The "Knock Out" game. Now this.
This is your country people; time to take it back?
Im serious, all the other stuff is stupid of course. but how do flash mobs pose a problem? Is people dancing really that bad?
Or do they think is is another type of "Flash"
daedalus wrote: I normally judge most bloggy things by the quality of comments that appear on the site.
Metaphorically speaking his daughters should be stripped down, strapped over the hood of a jeep and left at the boarder with a sign that says, "welcome to America".
After all, is that not in essence what is happening in real time with all these illegal alien criminal drug addicted rapist being allowed into and shipped to "Smallville USA" all across our nation? Yes these rapist and drug dealers are being shipped to YOUR towns by YOUR President Barack Obama and the Democratic Party.
Think your daughters will be safe walking the streets now? Your wives? Your grandmothers?
Flash mobs. The "Knock Out" game. Now this.
This is your country people; time to take it back?
I... I do not think I have words for this.
EDIT: DAMNIT Soladrin, you ninja!!!
This is why I have learned to avoid the comments sections in either conservative or liberal sites. That aside, I thought she had sevearal good points that could be used as a beginning for further research.
hotsauceman1 wrote: Im serious, all the other stuff is stupid of course. but how do flash mobs pose a problem? Is people dancing really that bad?
Or do they think is is another type of "Flash"
There is another type, and he can save every one of us! Flash Ah aaaaaah!....
Also those comments made me 10 times stupider than I was this morning.
Judge Jeanine reported that most of the “babies” crossing the border are males between 14 and 17 and three quarters of those are male.
Three weeks ago, I told you what was happening: ‘It is the Obama administration knowingly creating a public health timebomb by sending tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children across the country, with potentially dangerous, infectious diseases.’”
That makes sense, because the benefit to the Obama administration from a public health emergency is obvious. When that "timebomb" goes off, Obama simply needs to.... do.... something, and then his plan comes to fruition!
She's as much of a judge as "Doctor" Phil is a doctor, and should be taken equally seriously.
Three weeks ago, I told you what was happening: ‘It is the Obama administration knowingly creating a public health timebomb by sending tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children across the country, with potentially dangerous, infectious diseases.’”
That makes sense, because the benefit to the Obama administration from a public health emergency is obvious. When that "timebomb" goes off, Obama simply needs to.... do.... something, and then his plan comes to fruition!
When everybody get's the Mexican Flu they will crawl to the White Mosque begging for that sweet sweet ObamaCare.
Three weeks ago, I told you what was happening: ‘It is the Obama administration knowingly creating a public health timebomb by sending tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children across the country, with potentially dangerous, infectious diseases.’”
That makes sense, because the benefit to the Obama administration from a public health emergency is obvious. When that "timebomb" goes off, Obama simply needs to.... do.... something, and then his plan comes to fruition!
When everybody get's the Mexican Flu they will crawl to the White Mosque begging for that sweet sweet ObamaCare.
All it needs is Obama to change the orientation of some part of the White Mosque to Mecca and we'd have the greatest conspiracy story this side of...ever.
Damn that insider and his biological weapons bringing down Smallville USA. Still he might be improving the collective IQ of the US judging by the comments section.
Bullockist wrote: Damn that insider and his biological weapons bringing down Smallville USA. Still he might be improving the collective IQ of the US judging by the comments section.
To be fair, I'm sure immigration articles on the Courier Mail website are approaching these levels. What with all the free houses/boats/cars/lives/passports/cities we give the evil evil boat people who want to bring down Australia.
People from under developed countries have a lot of health issues that we don't have to deal with in the developed world. How to decide not to help them, and instead kick them back so they can die quietly where you can't see them at 7! Then at 8, how Obama is turning America Muslim in; Mohammed bin Traitor.
motyak wrote: People from under developed countries have a lot of health issues that we don't have to deal with in the developed world. How to decide not to help them, and instead kick them back so they can die quietly where you can't see them at 7! Then at 8, how Obama is turning America Muslim in; Mohammed bin Traitor.
Whatever else, this isn't the way to handle it. Obama didn't even have the balls to go anywhere this situation is blowing up to speak to the people about it. Just dropping someone who probably doesn't speak the language and might be carrying communicable diseases at a bus stop is moronic:
Three weeks ago, I told you what was happening: ‘It is the Obama administration knowingly creating a public health timebomb by sending tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children across the country, with potentially dangerous, infectious diseases.’”
That makes sense, because the benefit to the Obama administration from a public health emergency is obvious. When that "timebomb" goes off, Obama simply needs to.... do.... something, and then his plan comes to fruition!
When everybody get's the Mexican Flu they will crawl to the White Mosque begging for that sweet sweet ObamaCare.
All it needs is Obama to change the orientation of some part of the White Mosque to Mecca and we'd have the greatest conspiracy story this side of...ever.
You freaking lost it? ISIS looking to destroy Mecca.....wait...
motyak wrote: People from under developed countries have a lot of health issues that we don't have to deal with in the developed world. How to decide not to help them, and instead kick them back so they can die quietly where you can't see them at 7! Then at 8, how Obama is turning America Muslim in; Mohammed bin Traitor.
Whatever else, this isn't the way to handle it. Obama didn't even have the balls to go anywhere this situation is blowing up to speak to the people about it. Just dropping someone who probably doesn't speak the language and might be carrying communicable diseases at a bus stop is moronic:
Jesus, I see people at the bus stop with influenza quite frequently, some of them have a tenuous grasp of the english language as well... THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
Can you imagine the insanity that would ensued if a kid pops up positive for Small Pox. About the only ones who has the small vaccine is our parents, those of us that deployed, and whoever else that required it going into a countries that has it.
Jihadin wrote: Can you imagine the insanity that would ensued if a kid pops up positive for Small Pox. About the only ones who has the small vaccine is our parents, those of us that deployed, and whoever else that required it going into a countries that has it.
Already a few in Lackland positive for TB
It seems a joke to people, but it is a possibility. Just cutting these people loose into the general population so soon after they get here is pretty reckless.
Three weeks ago, I told you what was happening: ‘It is the Obama administration knowingly creating a public health timebomb by sending tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children across the country, with potentially dangerous, infectious diseases.’”
That makes sense, because the benefit to the Obama administration from a public health emergency is obvious. When that "timebomb" goes off, Obama simply needs to.... do.... something, and then his plan comes to fruition!
When everybody get's the Mexican Flu they will crawl to the White Mosque begging for that sweet sweet ObamaCare.
Where they'll be turned away, and told to call the hotline for services... on their Obamaphones
Three weeks ago, I told you what was happening: ‘It is the Obama administration knowingly creating a public health timebomb by sending tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children across the country, with potentially dangerous, infectious diseases.’”
That makes sense, because the benefit to the Obama administration from a public health emergency is obvious. When that "timebomb" goes off, Obama simply needs to.... do.... something, and then his plan comes to fruition!
When everybody get's the Mexican Flu they will crawl to the White Mosque begging for that sweet sweet ObamaCare.
Where they'll be turned away, and told to call the hotline for services... on their Obamaphones
Where they will have a Navigator guiding them through the process
Jihadin wrote: Can you imagine the insanity that would ensued if a kid pops up positive for Small Pox. About the only ones who has the small vaccine is our parents, those of us that deployed, and whoever else that required it going into a countries that has it.
Already a few in Lackland positive for TB
Unless they've been at a CDC research lab and rooted through their fridge recently, they're not going to have smallpox. It's extinct in the wild.
I assume you've got some source for a smallpox outbreak in Afganistan, because the best Google comes up with is some folks getting vaccinations back in 2005.
My first tour in OEF I was still a crew chief. I was there when we would mount a "frame" onto the body of the aircraft to remove a engine. Scamp was down due to a flat. One of our missions was in remote areas way up in the mountains. Two villages were "off limits" from all Coalition forces. Small Pox. Year later we cranked the Small Pox vaccination in the Military.
MrDwhitey wrote: Holy gak, why isn't the fact smallpox is alive and well in the wild plastered over major news networks?
Yeah, a single unverified report. Nice.
One. Its a Afghanistan source
Two. Taliban
Three. Its "Eradicated"
Four. Insurgents
Five. Both Taliban and Insurgents have killed Humanitarian groups
Six. Its in some serious remote areas.
Seven. Afghanistan is almost in the stick age in a lot of these remote areas
That freaking vaccination sucks. Four times vaccinated.
A Colorado man diagnosed with pneumonic plague, a rare form of the disease that is also the most life-threatening, is the state's first confirmed human case of the illness in a decade, officials said on Wednesday.
The man was found to have the disease after the family dog died unexpectedly, and a necropsy concluded the animal was afflicted with pneumonic plague, the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment said in a statement.
The unidentified man and his dog were believed to have contracted the disease in an eastern Colorado county. There was no word on the man's condition.
The bacteria that causes plague occurs naturally in the western United States, particularly in Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and California, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The plague is transmitted by fleas to rodents, usually prairie dogs. When an infected animal dies, the disease is spread when the fleas find another host.
Pneumonic plague is the same bacteria that causes bubonic plague, but it infects a person's lungs. Symptoms include fever, headaches, shortness of breath, chest pains and a cough.
It is the most serious form of the disease, Colorado health officials said, adding that it is the only form of plague that can be transmitted person-to-person, usually through infectious droplets from coughing.
Since 1957, 60 human cases of pneumonic plague have been identified in Colorado, and nine were fatal, the health department said.
"Although human cases occur infrequently, plague is severe and potentially life-threatening if not detected and quickly treated with common antibiotics," the department said.
I don't get what some bloke getting sick from a disease he caught from his dog's fleas (that's already in the US) has to do with this immigrant freak out?
Do you have a single unverified report establishing a link?
"Hey guys, I don't have any source at all for illegal immigrants bringing smallpox into the country, so here is a source about a US citizen inside the USA contracting a disease that is well known to be alive and well inside the USA."
d-usa wrote: "Hey guys, I don't have any source at all for illegal immigrants bringing smallpox into the country, so here is a source about a US citizen inside the USA contracting a disease that is well known to be alive and well inside the USA."
What did we even expect? Seriously? It's pathetic.
d-usa wrote: "Hey guys, I don't have any source at all for illegal immigrants bringing smallpox into the country, so here is a source about a US citizen inside the USA contracting a disease that is well known to be alive and well inside the USA."
Wait Are you saying I claim a confirm Small Pox case in Lackland? Want to show me where I claim that?
Can you imagine the insanity that would ensued if a kid pops up positive for Small Pox. About the only ones who has the small vaccine is our parents, those of us that deployed, and whoever else that required it going into a countries that has it
Show me where I claim a kid came up hot for Small pox in this sentence?
MrDwhitey wrote: Holy gak, why isn't the fact smallpox is alive and well in the wild plastered over major news networks?.
Because the article is a reference to livestock dying of disease, and non-human animals cannot be infected with or transmit human smallpox. In other words, the article is wrong, or more accurately, imprecise: they had goatpox.
There hasn't been a documented case of human smallpox in the wild nearly 40 years.
d-usa wrote: "Hey guys, I don't have any source at all for illegal immigrants bringing smallpox into the country, so here is a source about a US citizen inside the USA contracting a disease that is well known to be alive and well inside the USA."
Wait Are you saying I claim a confirm Small Pox case in Lackland? Want to show me where I claim that?
Can you imagine the insanity that would ensued if a kid pops up positive for Small Pox. About the only ones who has the small vaccine is our parents, those of us that deployed, and whoever else that required it going into a countries that has it
Show me where I claim a kid came up hot for Small pox in this sentence?
I'm betting you wont even be able to source it even if you did.
When are you just going to go "Sorry guys, I was just pulling your leg, you all fell for it!" like most people who get caught saying utter tripe and being called on it, and think that rolling out that line will magically make them appear not wrongwrongwrong.
MrDwhitey wrote: That wont be me, my phone is literally just a messages and call one.
It would be very interesting to see.
I've quite a few here who gave me there cell #'s. I have never abused that trust. You called me out and I am backing it up on why its classified and cannot be "Googled"
The AMR's I save is to protect me if I think if its a questionable and/or significant event. Its a reference for me. Mind you I will block out quite a bit of info. Aircraft tail numbers, pilots, call sign's, material, pax's, route, and mission purpose. You do not need to know what we do, how we did it nor what we encounter. The form cannot be Google that I know of
- The World Health Organization reported in 2005 and 2010 that there has not been a single confirmed case of smallpox in 30 years.
- I have not been able to find a single article from a single medical journal indicating any confirmed or even suspected cases of smallpox anywhere in the world.
- The US military must be pretty damn good and/or stupid to keep it a secret from the rest of the world that smallpox cases are happening in Afghanistan, especially with ex-military members going "oh yeah, smallpox is still totes around" on random internet forums.
- The only single report that claims that smallpox is still around is hosted by an anti-vax group.
No offense, but I'm going with the entire worldwide medical community here and I'll just chalk the words of an internet warrior up to bs.
d-usa wrote: - The World Health Organization reported in 2005 and 2010 that there has not been a single confirmed case of smallpox in 30 years.
- I have not been able to find a single article from a single medical journal indicating any confirmed or even suspected cases of smallpox anywhere in the world.
- The US military must be pretty damn good and/or stupid to keep it a secret from the rest of the world that smallpox cases are happening in Afghanistan, especially with ex-military members going "oh yeah, smallpox is still totes around" on random internet forums.
- The only single report that claims that smallpox is still around is hosted by an anti-vax group.
No offense, but I'm going with the entire worldwide medical community here and I'll just chalk the words of an internet warrior up to bs.
I don't blame you. I just have a hand jam AMR for a polio and a small pox vaccination mission. The AMR number confirms the mission. Polio mission was in West Afghanistan and not in East Afghanistan. Its standard AMR. The Hand Jam portion was added in short notice for the Small pox vaccine. Why alert WHO when the problem can be resolved within two weeks. Why would the military expend its resources protecting WHO in a real bad area. It was a hop and pop mission. Done deal. back in two weeks (another follow on mission not involving my aircraft).
Its one of those 99.9 percent situation. That .01 percent going to come around some how, some way, some where. I think "some place" the Russians had a hand in it. My opinion
You know and I know the US Military is good at keeping many things hidden from general public knowledge. I can list crap we do in Afghanistan and Iraq that would make you go "WTF"
Afghanistan was a clusterfeth to vaccinate during the campaign. Do I believe that there may still be areas that are still not 100% vaccinated? Sure. Would I not be surprised one bit if the military found an area with sub-optimal levels of vaccinations (easy to verify by lack of scars)? Sure. Would I not be surprised it the military made sure that everybody that was not vaccinated that long ago got their vaccines now, especially if they are already on a polio mission? Makes total sense.
Having active cases of a disease running around in an area with bad herd immunity with no way to track population movement prior to discovery and not notifying anyone and not placing the entire country on lockdown? Don't buy it at all.
That is a public health concern that goes way past any army action.
d-usa wrote: Afghanistan was a clusterfeth to vaccinate during the campaign. Do I believe that there may still be areas that are still not 100% vaccinated? Sure. Would I not be surprised one bit if the military found an area with sub-optimal levels of vaccinations (easy to verify by lack of scars)? Sure. Would I not be surprised it the military made sure that everybody that was not vaccinated that long ago got their vaccines now, especially if they are already on a polio mission? Makes total sense.
Having active cases of a disease running around in an area with bad herd immunity with no way to track population movement prior to discovery and not notifying anyone and not placing the entire country on lockdown? Don't buy it at all.
That is a public health concern that goes way past any army action.
Two villages. Remote area. Pretty much need a rotary aircraft to get there. They don't migrate. They stay in one area. Its tribal village. Both villages in one grid square. Next town was 15 miles down mountain on a goat trail that would give Xerxes triple thoughts to go up it. They have everything they need in their location
d-usa wrote: - The World Health Organization reported in 2005 and 2010 that there has not been a single confirmed case of smallpox in 30 years.
- I have not been able to find a single article from a single medical journal indicating any confirmed or even suspected cases of smallpox anywhere in the world.
- The US military must be pretty damn good and/or stupid to keep it a secret from the rest of the world that smallpox cases are happening in Afghanistan, especially with ex-military members going "oh yeah, smallpox is still totes around" on random internet forums.
- The only single report that claims that smallpox is still around is hosted by an anti-vax group.
No offense, but I'm going with the entire worldwide medical community here and I'll just chalk the words of an internet warrior up to bs.
Honestly, this.
Frankly if two isolated villages were hot for smallpox I'd still expect a massive media frenzy over it, regardless of how isolated they are.
d-usa wrote: Afghanistan was a clusterfeth to vaccinate during the campaign. Do I believe that there may still be areas that are still not 100% vaccinated? Sure. Would I not be surprised one bit if the military found an area with sub-optimal levels of vaccinations (easy to verify by lack of scars)? Sure. Would I not be surprised it the military made sure that everybody that was not vaccinated that long ago got their vaccines now, especially if they are already on a polio mission? Makes total sense.
It really sounds like at the very most this is what it was.
Jihadin wrote: The AMR number confirms the mission. Polio mission was in West Afghanistan and not in East Afghanistan.
I believe that you went on a mission to vaccinate a village in Afghanistan - you've been on these forums a long time and I've never known you to lie about anything, let alone something just to win an argument - but I don't believe that equates to even a single case of smallpox, let alone an outbreak - any more then the rubella vaccinations that every schoolchild gets in the US are in response to even a single case of rubella, let alone a rubella outbreak. Do you see what I mean?
The polio one makes a lot of sense because we all know polio exists in the wild, it exists in the region; and there remains a concerted and contested effort to eradicate it the way smallpox was. Was it possible that the smallpox vaccinations were hand-in-hand with the polio ones?
So far as a coverup... Sure, I guess the military could cover an outbreak up, but why? I know a moron on Facebook who swears that the military found "2 armed nuclear devices in Iraq" according to "Pentagon sources"; but that the military hushed it up. What he can't explain is why we would cover something up that would vindicate 2 different presidential administrations and restore some of our lost prestige with the international community, as well as give a good rationale for what wound up being a waste of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in pursuit of nonexistent WMDs, as well as provide a solid basis for the continued flow of trillions of taxpayer dollars to the US war machine - the one thing both parties truly truly love to do.
That's often the problem with the Alex Jones types; they can give you chapter and verse on "how" but never the "why".
Jihadin wrote: The AMR number confirms the mission. Polio mission was in West Afghanistan and not in East Afghanistan.
I believe that you went on a mission to vaccinate a village in Afghanistan - you've been on these forums a long time and I've never known you to lie about anything, let alone something just to win an argument - but I don't believe that equates to even a single case of smallpox, let alone an outbreak - any more then the rubella vaccinations that every schoolchild gets in the US are in response to even a single case of rubella, let alone a rubella outbreak. Do you see what I mean?
The polio one makes a lot of sense because we all know polio exists in the wild, it exists in the region; and there remains a concerted and contested effort to eradicate it the way smallpox was. Was it possible that the smallpox vaccinations were hand-in-hand with the polio ones?
So far as a coverup... Sure, I guess the military could cover an outbreak up, but why? I know a moron on Facebook who swears that the military found "2 armed nuclear devices in Iraq" according to "Pentagon sources"; but that the military hushed it up. What he can't explain is why we would cover something up that would vindicate 2 different presidential administrations and restore some of our lost prestige with the international community, as well as give a good rationale for what wound up being a waste of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in pursuit of nonexistent WMDs, as well as provide a solid basis for the continued flow of trillions of taxpayer dollars to the US war machine - the one thing both parties truly truly love to do.
That's often the problem with the Alex Jones types; they can give you chapter and verse on "how" but never the "why".
Why would the US Military debunk WHO. Terrain in Afghanistan a mofo. So WHO might have thought they got all the remote villages but didn't. Russia was in Afghanistan for ten years afterwards. Russia tore the place apart and took the Afghani's to the stick age damn near. Question though on our mind. Was it a natural form of small pox formed by nature or a Russian "feth you" hit.
Jihadin wrote: Monkey's were indeed for sale in the bazaar.
Sorry I can't post the mission the AMR for that mission Soladrin being AMR's are Classified.
But he can say it involved monkeys.
Flying monkeys.
To the point (I think) TB, and whooping cough have returned to the US after being effectively irradicated. So all those vaccines soccer moms think aren't important - be sure to get them.
Jihadin wrote: The AMR number confirms the mission. Polio mission was in West Afghanistan and not in East Afghanistan.
I believe that you went on a mission to vaccinate a village in Afghanistan - you've been on these forums a long time and I've never known you to lie about anything, let alone something just to win an argument - but I don't believe that equates to even a single case of smallpox, let alone an outbreak - any more then the rubella vaccinations that every schoolchild gets in the US are in response to even a single case of rubella, let alone a rubella outbreak. Do you see what I mean?
The polio one makes a lot of sense because we all know polio exists in the wild, it exists in the region; and there remains a concerted and contested effort to eradicate it the way smallpox was. Was it possible that the smallpox vaccinations were hand-in-hand with the polio ones?
So far as a coverup... Sure, I guess the military could cover an outbreak up, but why? I know a moron on Facebook who swears that the military found "2 armed nuclear devices in Iraq" according to "Pentagon sources"; but that the military hushed it up. What he can't explain is why we would cover something up that would vindicate 2 different presidential administrations and restore some of our lost prestige with the international community, as well as give a good rationale for what wound up being a waste of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in pursuit of nonexistent WMDs, as well as provide a solid basis for the continued flow of trillions of taxpayer dollars to the US war machine - the one thing both parties truly truly love to do.
That's often the problem with the Alex Jones types; they can give you chapter and verse on "how" but never the "why".
Why would the US Military debunk WHO. Terrain in Afghanistan a mofo. So WHO might have thought they got all the remote villages but didn't. Russia was in Afghanistan for ten years afterwards. Russia tore the place apart and took the Afghani's to the stick age damn near. Question though on our mind. Was it a natural form of small pox formed by nature or a Russian "feth you" hit.
I get that public health is not your specialty, which is why you probably don't realize what a huge giant world changing event a single confirmed case of smallpox would be. Every single thing we have based epidemiology and outbreak response on for the last 30 years would have been wrong and would have to be fundamentally changed. A lifetime worth of work would have been completely worthless. It's not "oops, we missed a village and now they have active smallpox, no worries we will take care of it, no reason to tell anyone", it's "oh holy mother of gak we are all fethed because it's still alive". From a public health perspective, if there was even a single confirmed case of smallpox in Afghanistan you guys would have been out there vaccinating every living breathing human in that entire country, again, with the rest of the world sending in troops and teams to help. And then you would lock that country down, remote village or not. Even if the US decided to make the phenomenal mistake of keeping an active smallpox outbreak a secret from the WHO, we would have seen a level of activity in all levels of US public health that you wouldn't be able to hide. We are talking stockpiles of vaccines to cover every single human being on the entire continent being shipped to every major city.
I don't think you are lying, I just think that maybe you misunderstood what exactly was going on there and why you guys decided to vaccinate the village. Mainly because I don't think that you realize just exactly how big a deal it would be if what you are saying was true. And if it was true I would bet everything that they would have made sure to drill it into you that you will never speak of it to anybody ever, and I would imagine that the warning would have even severe enough for you not to mention the event here. That's why I think that there was possibly a "there are smallpox survivors in a village that was never vaccinated, let's hit them up" situation. Because really, it would change everything. It really is that huge of a deal. It would mean that the biggest public health project on this planet failed.
Jihadin wrote: Monkey's were indeed for sale in the bazaar.
Sorry I can't post the mission the AMR for that mission Soladrin being AMR's are Classified.
But he can say it involved monkeys.
Flying monkeys.
To the point (I think) TB, and whooping cough have returned to the US after being effectively irradicated. So all those vaccines soccer moms think aren't important - be sure to get them.
Smallpox vaccine is given to people at risk for monkeypox, as it is the same family of viruses.
Jihadin wrote: The AMR number confirms the mission. Polio mission was in West Afghanistan and not in East Afghanistan.
I believe that you went on a mission to vaccinate a village in Afghanistan - you've been on these forums a long time and I've never known you to lie about anything, let alone something just to win an argument - but I don't believe that equates to even a single case of smallpox, let alone an outbreak - any more then the rubella vaccinations that every schoolchild gets in the US are in response to even a single case of rubella, let alone a rubella outbreak. Do you see what I mean?
The polio one makes a lot of sense because we all know polio exists in the wild, it exists in the region; and there remains a concerted and contested effort to eradicate it the way smallpox was. Was it possible that the smallpox vaccinations were hand-in-hand with the polio ones?
So far as a coverup... Sure, I guess the military could cover an outbreak up, but why? I know a moron on Facebook who swears that the military found "2 armed nuclear devices in Iraq" according to "Pentagon sources"; but that the military hushed it up. What he can't explain is why we would cover something up that would vindicate 2 different presidential administrations and restore some of our lost prestige with the international community, as well as give a good rationale for what wound up being a waste of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in pursuit of nonexistent WMDs, as well as provide a solid basis for the continued flow of trillions of taxpayer dollars to the US war machine - the one thing both parties truly truly love to do.
That's often the problem with the Alex Jones types; they can give you chapter and verse on "how" but never the "why".
Why would the US Military debunk WHO. Terrain in Afghanistan a mofo. So WHO might have thought they got all the remote villages but didn't. Russia was in Afghanistan for ten years afterwards. Russia tore the place apart and took the Afghani's to the stick age damn near. Question though on our mind. Was it a natural form of small pox formed by nature or a Russian "feth you" hit.
I get that public health is not your specialty, which is why you probably don't realize what a huge giant world changing event a single confirmed case of smallpox would be. Every single thing we have based epidemiology and outbreak response on for the last 30 years would have been wrong and would have to be fundamentally changed. A lifetime worth of work would have been completely worthless. It's not "oops, we missed a village and now they have active smallpox, no worries we will take care of it, no reason to tell anyone", it's "oh holy mother of gak we are all fethed because it's still alive". From a public health perspective, if there was even a single confirmed case of smallpox in Afghanistan you guys would have been out there vaccinating every living breathing human in that entire country, again, with the rest of the world sending in troops and teams to help. And then you would lock that country down, remote village or not. Even if the US decided to make the phenomenal mistake of keeping an active smallpox outbreak a secret from the WHO, we would have seen a level of activity in all levels of US public health that you wouldn't be able to hide. We are talking stockpiles of vaccines to cover every single human being on the entire continent being shipped to every major city.
I don't think you are lying, I just think that maybe you misunderstood what exactly was going on there and why you guys decided to vaccinate the village. Mainly because I don't think that you realize just exactly how big a deal it would be if what you are saying was true. And if it was true I would bet everything that they would have made sure to drill it into you that you will never speak of it to anybody ever, and I would imagine that the warning would have even severe enough for you not to mention the event here. That's why I think that there was possibly a "there are smallpox survivors in a village that was never vaccinated, let's hit them up" situation. Because really, it would change everything. It really is that huge of a deal. It would mean that the biggest public health project on this planet failed.
What if it was a success and it was a Russian "feth you" hit? Couldn't raise the flag on the possibility of Russian popping small pox on them being we were getting intelligence and advice from the Russians at the time. Also the Russians at that time frame didn't know what the "left hand" was doing along with the "right hand" and the "Higher Ups" directing. We do not know. So why declare WHO failed or accuse Russia of Bio Warfare. My advice. If one goes to Afghanistan get your Small Pox vaccination
Even if you wanted to keep it hush, we would have seen a ton of actions against smallpox and to prepare the entire US population for vaccination. There is really nothing to be gained by keeping it secret, and if we had any reason to believe that Russia did something we would have used that ace in our pocket a long time ago IMO.
Again: I don't think you are lying. I'm sure you guys went there to vaccinate against smallpox and I'm sure you that you believe that the reason was for an outbreak. I just think that you are mistaken about the exact reason why.
Just because it would be that huge of a deal and I know you take your job seriously enough that you would not be here talking about smallpox if it was smallpox, because anybody above you would have made sure that you never speak about it to anyone.
I don't think you are lying, I'm just explaining why I have a very hard time believing the scenario.
Although from what I could find in journals and from the mention of our primate overlords my educated guess is going to be in a monkeypox outbreak. We do vaccinate workers and aid personal that to into areas where monkeypox is common with smallpox vaccines and monkey pox is known to be in Afghanistan.
