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Post by: manrogue
Posted on my local forum, -
http://battlebunnies.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/no-gamesday-warhammer-fest-instead-in.html
Edit - bit more digging got me this info-
Warhammer Fest will be a 2 day event covering the 11th and 12th of October!!
The usual will be there – Forge World, Black Library and Golden Daemon.
There will be a massive variety of seminars and events; you will need to go both days to do it all!!
Tickets are £20 each day!
Golden Daemon will be on display on the Sunday!
It will be a smaller event at the Ricoh Arena in Coventry!
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Warhammer-Fest-Sunday-Adult
Warhammer Fest
Sunday 12th October 2014
Ricoh Arena, Coventry, UK
FREE car parking adjacent to the venue
Warhammer Fest is a celebration of everything about the worlds of Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000; the miniatures, the backgrounds, the stories and the games. You will encounter fantastic miniatures displays, seminars by our design teams, in-depth demonstrations and inspiring Design Studio displays.
You will also be able to pick up the latest releases from Games Workshop, Forge World and Black Library, including many items available for the first time over the weekend, along with exclusive event only merchandise. With such a wide range of activities, you can plan your day around specific elements, or just enjoy whatever grabs your attention.
Things to See and Do
Golden Demon - On Sunday 12th October, Warhammer Fest will be hosting the 2014 Golden Demon Miniatures Painting Competition, the calendar highlight for miniatures painters throughout the world. If you want to compete and showcase your painting skills, or be a spectator to this extravaganza of miniatures, then order your Sunday ticket today!
Seminars - We will be hosting a series of seminars featuring a panel of experts from Forge World, Black Library and Games Workshop. Each seminar will focus on a specific topic and we will be repeating certain ones each day, so you can choose to attend them when it best suits your plans.
Design Teams - Black Library, Forge World and the Games Workshop Design Studios will all have areas at Warhammer Fest so you can meet the dedicated teams that bring to life the worlds we all love. This is your chance to chat with them and ask any burning questions about Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000, as well as seeing their work up close and personal.
Demo Pods - These dedicated areas are spread throughout the venue and each offers a specific activity such as: painting demonstrations, gaming tactics and a series of presentations covering a range of subjects.
Things to take Home
Black Library - The brand new Horus Heresy book, Death and Defiance will be on sale at Warhammer Fest for the first time anywhere in the world. This anthology collects together five stories set across the battlefields of the Horus Heresy, and includes brand new fiction from Aaron Dembski-Bowden, Nick Kyme, James Swallow, Andy Smillie and Guy Haley.
There will be a range of pre-release titles, event exclusive art prints and more.
Forge World - Visit the popular Forge World sales area for pre-release items, including a brand new book and new models not on release anywhere else; details will be revealed nearer the event. Over the weekend you can also buy from Forge World’s vast range of models and books as well as event only miniatures, t-shirts, hoodies, bags and mugs.
Citadel - You’ll have access to the Games Workshop range at Warhammer Fest, enabling you to add the latest Citadel miniatures, books and other products to your collections.
Art Prints - Admire a gallery of art prints celebrating the stunning visual work of our design teams, with artwork showing detail beyond what you see in our publications. And if there’s something you really like, you’ll be able to buy exclusive prints of many of the pieces over the weekend.
Exclusive Event Merchandise - Get an exclusive memento of your experience with event only products to use in your games and show off to your friends.
If you want to be part of this extravaganza of all things Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000, then get your ticket now as we have strictly limited numbers available for each day.
Full terms and conditions are available here.
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Post by: Azreal13
So, any bets on it being based at WHW?
Costs: Gotta Cut Em All.
(Which is a reference I may need to explain, as, according to Kirby, nobody remembers Pokémon)
EDIT
OPs edit invalidated the detail of my post, but evidently not the spirit. The Ricoh Arena? Really?
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Post by: manrogue
Apparently so, surprised its not at WHW myself.....
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Post by: notprop
WHW is I believe being or due to be refurbished.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
masterminis.net showed the tickets and posted
"Games Day? Warhammer Fest? New Rumors emerge!
Now I know that this is a rumor, everyone could print up some tickets like that, yada, yada, yada....
But I think it's worth sharing: Warhammer Fest October 11-12th?
Allegedly an event at the Ricoh Arena Coventry (which seems weird) - and the event is going to be more or less a FW Open Day for the whole of GW.
I have my doubts, but stranger things have happened. Allegedly, there is also a Golden Demon during this event.
But maybe this entertains you for 42 seconds, so I thought it would be worth SHARING & ENJOYING it
We'll be at the Scale Model Challenge that weekend - you gotta keep your priorities right"
(I suspect the Ricoh Arena was really cheap to rent, as with Coventry City not playing there any more they need all the alternate income they can get)
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Post by: namiel
warhammerfest north america???
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Post by: Tyron
No free model?
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Post by: Tannhauser42
A free model, are you kidding? According to GW, our favorite hobby is buying GW products, so why would they just give them away?
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Post by: Tyron
 Tannhauser42 wrote:
A free model, are you kidding? According to GW, our favorite hobby is buying GW products, so why would they just give them away?
Yeah how silly of me, the last time I went to games day was just before the wraithlord release and a golden daemon entry had one painted.
Atleast my backers get free trays which is something 
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Post by: overtyrant
Wow £20! I suppose changing the name from Gamesday so they could get away with not running any games! I envision this just being a massive day for Forge World and spending half the day queuing for the GW store (with no discounts or offers for the day).
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Post by: Azreal13
They close their forums.
They retreat from all social media.
Now GW are literally sending their customers to Coventry. 
I'm here all week...
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Post by: His Master's Voice
As an old and jaded person, I welcome the removal of all the tiresome rabble from the event. The only worthwhile events during a Games Day were the seminars, FW presence and Golden Demon. To not be forced to wade through 12 year olds shouting Waaaaagh on my way there is a premium I'm willing to pay.
Or would be willing to pay if I had any intent of attending the event. Since I'm not only old and jaded, but also cheap and lazy, I'll just wait for someone to post the relevant bits here.
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
Consodering the smaller venue and that the only way you could fill the day at Games Day was participating in a shouting scream fest that was one of the games and queuing for the retail stand then I highly doubt you need two days at a smaller venue, nor will I bother finding out as this is a new low for GW.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
It is surprising how GW seem to be systematically disengaging from their former identities. Games Day had been running in the UK since the mid-80s. White Dwarf demoted. IG renamed. Games Day replaced.
Perhaps the brand had become irretrievably tarnished, as Finecast did.
Perhaps they want to concentrate totally on the core Warhammer brand, which makes sense given that it is almost their only product.
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Post by: TheAuldGrump
Wow, WarhammerFest...
That's almost as cool a name as...
As...
As...
Gleemax?
Okay, maybe cooler than Gleemax, but, really, why move away from a successful title to one that... well, just isn't that good?
The Auld Grump
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Post by: BrookM
I think the second day will be the busy one then, if they're moving the Golden Daemon there.
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Post by: Lovejoy
 BrookM wrote:I think the second day will be the busy one then, if they're moving the Golden Daemon there.
It says the Golden Demon stuff will be on display on Sunday; what's the betting that you have to enter and get judged on Saturday, then pick the figures up on Sunday....
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Post by: Pacific
@Kilkrazy - Interesting point. I wonder if we will ever see a change of company name for the same reason? There aren't really any 'games', any more (well.. barely in the plural, 40k/WFB and LoTR), and the 'workshop' component has been replaced by single piece plastics and large pieces of pre-moulded plastic that take the place of flocked MDF as a playing surface.
I'm only joking of course, but the name has become a somewhat amusing and ironic reminder of what the company once represented.
 azreal13 wrote:They close their forums.
They retreat from all social media.
Now GW are literally sending their customers to Coventry.
Haha.. very good !
Sorry for anyone here that lives in Coventry.. (but you need to move!)
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Post by: Palindrome
 TheAuldGrump wrote:.... but, really, why move away from a successful title to one that... well, just isn't that good?
Astra Militarum, I rest my case.
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Post by: BrookM
These last few years "Games Day" hasn't exactly been brought up or used in positive ways.
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Post by: filbert
Interestingly, if you go to the Ricoh Arena website:
http://www.ricoharena.com/
And scroll the calendar app thing through to October, there doesn't appear to be anything booked on those dates. Might mean something, probably means nothing but it is interesting to note that other exhibitions and shows are listed. Probably GW trying to preserve their veil of pointless secrecy as usual.
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Post by: Herzlos
 Lovejoy wrote: BrookM wrote:I think the second day will be the busy one then, if they're moving the Golden Daemon there.
It says the Golden Demon stuff will be on display on Sunday; what's the betting that you have to enter and get judged on Saturday, then pick the figures up on Sunday....
There should be nothing stopping people taking their mini's away after judging, as I'm sure that's happened at the previous events.
But why Coventry? Just cheaper access? It seems the place has capacity of up to 12,000 standing though, so it's maybe not shrinking that much.
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Post by: notprop
Neither Imperial Guard or Games Day can be Trademarked and protected. The renaming seems to be a continuation of their tightening up of terminology.
As much as the name grates at least with WarhammerFest it will do exactly what it says on the tin.
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Post by: Steve steveson
 His Master's Voice wrote:As an old and jaded person, I welcome the removal of all the tiresome rabble from the event. The only worthwhile events during a Games Day were the seminars, FW presence and Golden Demon. To not be forced to wade through 12 year olds shouting Waaaaagh on my way there is a premium I'm willing to pay.
I agree. If this gets away from the kids screaming Waaagh and becomes an event more like the open days then I might just go. I don't blaim GW from wanting to get away from the gamesday name. It had become old and stale and had a poor reputation. If this is true they might be able to pull something out.
However, I find it odd that someone has tickets yet there is nothing on the GW website, the arena website or anywhere else. All seems very sus to me. But this would make far more sense than the NEC. Much cheaper and easier to get to for many people. The NEC by all accounts is far to expensive to rent, it is a pig to get to, because the M42 is horrid, always full of traffic and always has roadworks, and despite the vast cost of any events there they charge £5 or more for parking. The NIA is just a plane pain in the bum unless you live in Birmingham, and has almost no parking. If true it is a much more sensible place to hold an event.
£20 seems reasonable, especially when there is no parking charges, as long as there is at least a full half a days worth of stuff to see.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
azreal13 wrote:(Which is a reference I may need to explain, as, according to Kirby, nobody remembers Pokémon)
Elaborate on that please...? 
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Post by: His Master's Voice
Something about Pokemon being a passing fad or some such.
Not the brightest gem of wisdom, even By Kirby's standards.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
 Kilkrazy wrote:It is surprising how GW seem to be systematically disengaging from their former identities. Games Day had been running in the UK since the mid-80s. White Dwarf demoted. IG renamed. Games Day replaced.
It's easier to stick a little "™" after "Warhammerfest" than something like "Games Day". But we wouldn't want to be cynical about these sorts of things now would we? TheAuldGrump wrote:Okay, maybe cooler than Gleemax, but, really, why move away from a successful title to one that... well, just isn't that good?
Gleemax sounds like some sort of food-processor or blender. GW agrees. They only want M41: Mauler from Taco Bell wrote:The first seminar was about 40k, why they're not progressing the timeline beyond where it is now and how instead GW have 10,000 years (Heresy to M41) to pick events out of to use as a basis for supplements and the like. Someone laughed and stated that if they were working backwards they there is a chance that they could revisit Squats from their time in 30k up to their demise at the claws of the Tyranids. Jes, Phil & Matt all had a good laugh, said that they could and then carried on to talk about more feasible stuff.
His Master's Voice wrote:Something about Pokemon being a passing fad or some such. Not the brightest gem of wisdom, even By Kirby's standards.
GW's track records with what is and isn't a fad seems to be pretty bad.
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Post by: Fezman
 H.B.M.C. wrote: azreal13 wrote:(Which is a reference I may need to explain, as, according to Kirby, nobody remembers Pokémon)
Elaborate on that please...?
It was in Kirby's preamble to the financial report last year:
"When will the world tire of miniatures? (It won’t; these are not fashion items, they are hobby collectibles.) Won’t all your customers move on to computer games instead? (They didn’t; most of our current customers weren’t born when the Atari ST came out.) How about other games like Pokémon or role-playing games? (Who can remember them, now?)."
I especially like how it completely ignores the existence of RPGs licenced by GW themselves!
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Post by: Yodhrin
Herzlos wrote: Lovejoy wrote: BrookM wrote:I think the second day will be the busy one then, if they're moving the Golden Daemon there.
It says the Golden Demon stuff will be on display on Sunday; what's the betting that you have to enter and get judged on Saturday, then pick the figures up on Sunday....
There should be nothing stopping people taking their mini's away after judging, as I'm sure that's happened at the previous events.
But why Coventry? Just cheaper access? It seems the place has capacity of up to 12,000 standing though, so it's maybe not shrinking that much.
There's also a smaller venue in the same building with a standing capacity of 800, which seems like a more plausible option if their main aim is to cut costs.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Who can remember Pokemon? A lot of people, apparently.
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Post by: Herzlos
 Yodhrin wrote:
There's also a smaller venue in the same building with a standing capacity of 800, which seems like a more plausible option if their main aim is to cut costs.
That might explain why it's not on their calendar, but that seems pretty small. Weren't the numbers for last years GD about 2500?
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Post by: Skinnereal
If the NEC is too much hassle/expensive to rent, the Ricoh is just 1 junction further down the M1 from Nottingham.
But the train station is miles away. Same train, different stop.
Given the choice, and living in Coventry just 2 miles from the Ricoh, I'd have preferred the NEC, too.
It's going to be down to cost, pure and simple. Visitor experience be damned, and they can charge for the privilege. On top of the cost to get across town.
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Post by: Grimtuff
azreal13 wrote:They close their forums.
They retreat from all social media.
Now GW are literally sending their customers to Coventry.
I'm here all week...
Brilliant. Have an exalt. 
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Post by: Gaz Taylor
 Skinnereal wrote:If the NEC is too much hassle/expensive to rent, the Ricoh is just 1 junction further down the M1 from Nottingham.
But the train station is miles away. Same train, different stop.
Given the choice, and living in Coventry just 2 miles from the Ricoh, I'd have preferred the NEC, too.
It's going to be down to cost, pure and simple. Visitor experience be damned, and they can charge for the privilege. On top of the cost to get across town.
Yeah I was a bit surprised when I found out it was in Coventry. Both NIA/NEC are fairly easy to get to via train/car/bus, whilst having it at the Ricoh seems to force people to drive.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
 Fezman wrote:
I especially like how it completely ignores the existence of RPGs licenced by GW themselves!
GW licenced RPGs?
Wow!
I totally forgot about that!
Must have been around the same time as that Japanese monster game came out, what the #@$% was it called?
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Post by: jonolikespie
 Kid_Kyoto wrote: Fezman wrote:
I especially like how it completely ignores the existence of RPGs licenced by GW themselves!
GW licenced RPGs?
Wow!
I totally forgot about that!
Must have been around the same time as that Japanese monster game came out, what the #@$% was it called?
Digimon?
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Post by: Sidstyler
So...'Hamfest 2014. Are they going to put time and effort into producing a real event this time or is it just the same old crappy "Games Days" of recent years with new branding?
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Post by: Herzlos
My money's on a series of Seminars, a Forgeworld display and a large shopping area.
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Post by: NoggintheNog
Herzlos wrote:My money's on a series of Seminars, a Forgeworld display and a large shopping area.
Yup
I think, whilst the trademarkable name is a happy byproduct, the driving force behind the change is the huge negativity they got from Games day that didn't have any games to play. They obviously have no plans to have any participation games again, this sidesteps the easy line for the blogosphere. Of course 'Warhammerfest without any Warhammer played' will be just as damning a title to a blog piece as well.
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Post by: Herzlos
There's a pretty big likelyhood that there'll be no Warhammer (Fantasy) content either. But 40KFest doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Post by: Platuan4th
 jonolikespie wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote: Fezman wrote:
I especially like how it completely ignores the existence of RPGs licenced by GW themselves!
GW licenced RPGs?
Wow!
I totally forgot about that!
Must have been around the same time as that Japanese monster game came out, what the #@$% was it called?
Digimon?
No, no, he's obviously talking about Tamagotchi.
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Post by: Brother SRM
It's also not really "Games Day" since it's over the course of two days instead of just one.
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Post by: rich1231
 Brother SRM wrote:It's also not really "Games Day" since it's over the course of two days instead of just one.
Games Day used to be multiple days.
I went on a Friday and Saturday back in 1987... 1988, it was when Aliens came out.
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Post by: TheAuldGrump
H.B.M.C. wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:It is surprising how GW seem to be systematically disengaging from their former identities. Games Day had been running in the UK since the mid-80s. White Dwarf demoted. IG renamed. Games Day replaced.
It's easier to stick a little "™" after "Warhammerfest" than something like "Games Day". But we wouldn't want to be cynical about these sorts of things now would we?
TheAuldGrump wrote:Okay, maybe cooler than Gleemax, but, really, why move away from a successful title to one that... well, just isn't that good?
Gleemax sounds like some sort of food-processor or blender.
Gleemax was Wizard of the Coasts attempt at a social media site - aimed at Facebook, etc....
WotC... has had mixed luck with the interweb.... (Mostly bad, but differently bad than GW....)
But the name Gleemax... is just awful.
The Auld Grump
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Brother SRM wrote:It's also not really "Games Day" since it's over the course of two days instead of just one.
I Somehow doubt that that was a concern of theirs when they changed the name.
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Post by: A Town Called Malus
Herzlos wrote:My money's on a series of Seminars, a Forgeworld display and a large shopping area.
Don't forget that the shopping area will only have one member of staff trying to run the whole thing. Gotta show those investors how well the one man store model works, after all.
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Post by: Davor
Hamfest. LOL. I wonder how GW is taking that.
I don't know, how is this 40K? I mean they say Warhammer but show a Spacemarine. For me that is so weird. Been so "trained" that Warhammer is Fantasy, and 40K is well 40K.
Maybe this is GW way of trying to get everyone into Fantasy again? Small subliminal messages? 
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Post by: Wolfstan
Wouldn't it make more sense for GW to book up large stand space at some of the more bigger gaming events? They can cut costs but then actually have enough to keep people interested for the whole weekend. They could bring back the WOW factor, but keep costs under control.
Have a FW & BL section. A normal GW store section with perhaps some old style awesome tabletop scene that ties in with the next big release?
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Post by: A Town Called Malus
 Wolfstan wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense for GW to book up large stand space at some of the more bigger gaming events? They can cut costs but then actually have enough to keep people interested for the whole weekend. They could bring back the WOW factor, but keep costs under control.
Have a FW & BL section. A normal GW store section with perhaps some old style awesome tabletop scene that ties in with the next big release?
That would require GW to accept that they are not the only game system/model maker out there. It is a smart thing to do, hence GW will not be doing it in the foreseeable future.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yeah. A token stand at GenCon is about the best we can hope for when it comes to GW acknowledging that other games exist.
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Post by: tgjensen
Herzlos wrote:My money's on a series of Seminars, a Forgeworld display and a large shopping area.
To be fair, I think a series of seminars, a Forgeworld display and a large hobby area sounds like a pretty good deal.
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Post by: timd
 filbert wrote: Probably GW trying to preserve their veil of pointless secrecy as usual.
"veil of pointless secrecy" Nicely done...
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Post by: Yodhrin
tgjensen wrote:Herzlos wrote:My money's on a series of Seminars, a Forgeworld display and a large shopping area.
To be fair, I think a series of seminars, a Forgeworld display and a large hobby area sounds like a pretty good deal.
You're a cheap date pal
Seriously though, if that's all they're going to lay on, why not just have another of their "intimate" events at WHW? They'd cut costs even further by not having to pay any venue hire at all, and at least that way people will have something to do when they find out the shedule is "Seminar: Project K(actually about stuff that came out several weeks beforehand), Seminar: We are the awesomest evar, Seminar: Have another look at this concept art from ten years ago, all that plus you can buy our stuff at full-retail!".
EDIT: And now a read it again, I'm beginning to suspect there was a hint of the sarcastic about your post that went right over my head...
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Post by: Thraxas Of Turai
 Pacific wrote:@Kilkrazy - Interesting point. I wonder if we will ever see a change of company name for the same reason? There aren't really any 'games', any more (well.. barely in the plural, 40k/WFB and LoTR), and the 'workshop' component has been replaced by single piece plastics and large pieces of pre-moulded plastic that take the place of flocked MDF as a playing surface.
I'm only joking of course, but the name has become a somewhat amusing and ironic reminder of what the company once represented.
azreal13 wrote:They close their forums.
They retreat from all social media.
Now GW are literally sending their customers to Coventry.
Haha.. very good !
Sorry for anyone here that lives in Coventry.. (but you need to move!)
 At least...at least...at least it is not Northampton.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Wolfstan wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense for GW to book up large stand space at some of the more bigger gaming events? They can cut costs but then actually have enough to keep people interested for the whole weekend. They could bring back the WOW factor, but keep costs under control.
Have a FW & BL section. A normal GW store section with perhaps some old style awesome tabletop scene that ties in with the next big release?
GW's general policy is to keep their new young customers ignorant of the existence of the wargaming world outside The HHHobby.
It's difficult to sell a £200 Realm of Battle Board to someone if they easily can see they can buy an equal or better product from someone else for £100.
The reverse of this argument is that the reputation of GW games appears to be so low with veterans now that GW are very unlikely to attract new customers from among the visitors at a regular wargames show.
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Post by: tgjensen
Yodhrin wrote:EDIT: And now a read it again, I'm beginning to suspect there was a hint of the sarcastic about your post that went right over my head...
The thrust of my post may or may not have been a cheap stab at GW's interpretation of what constitutes a hobby
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Post by: reds8n
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Warhammer-Fest-Sunday-Adult
Warhammer Fest
Sunday 12th October 2014
Ricoh Arena, Coventry, UK
FREE car parking adjacent to the venue
Warhammer Fest is a celebration of everything about the worlds of Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000; the miniatures, the backgrounds, the stories and the games. You will encounter fantastic miniatures displays, seminars by our design teams, in-depth demonstrations and inspiring Design Studio displays.
You will also be able to pick up the latest releases from Games Workshop, Forge World and Black Library, including many items available for the first time over the weekend, along with exclusive event only merchandise. With such a wide range of activities, you can plan your day around specific elements, or just enjoy whatever grabs your attention.
Things to See and Do
Golden Demon - On Sunday 12th October, Warhammer Fest will be hosting the 2014 Golden Demon Miniatures Painting Competition, the calendar highlight for miniatures painters throughout the world. If you want to compete and showcase your painting skills, or be a spectator to this extravaganza of miniatures, then order your Sunday ticket today!
Seminars - We will be hosting a series of seminars featuring a panel of experts from Forge World, Black Library and Games Workshop. Each seminar will focus on a specific topic and we will be repeating certain ones each day, so you can choose to attend them when it best suits your plans.
Design Teams - Black Library, Forge World and the Games Workshop Design Studios will all have areas at Warhammer Fest so you can meet the dedicated teams that bring to life the worlds we all love. This is your chance to chat with them and ask any burning questions about Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000, as well as seeing their work up close and personal.
Demo Pods - These dedicated areas are spread throughout the venue and each offers a specific activity such as: painting demonstrations, gaming tactics and a series of presentations covering a range of subjects.
Things to take Home
Black Library - The brand new Horus Heresy book, Death and Defiance will be on sale at Warhammer Fest for the first time anywhere in the world. This anthology collects together five stories set across the battlefields of the Horus Heresy, and includes brand new fiction from Aaron Dembski-Bowden, Nick Kyme, James Swallow, Andy Smillie and Guy Haley.
There will be a range of pre-release titles, event exclusive art prints and more.
Forge World - Visit the popular Forge World sales area for pre-release items, including a brand new book and new models not on release anywhere else; details will be revealed nearer the event. Over the weekend you can also buy from Forge World’s vast range of models and books as well as event only miniatures, t-shirts, hoodies, bags and mugs.
Citadel - You’ll have access to the Games Workshop range at Warhammer Fest, enabling you to add the latest Citadel miniatures, books and other products to your collections.
Art Prints - Admire a gallery of art prints celebrating the stunning visual work of our design teams, with artwork showing detail beyond what you see in our publications. And if there’s something you really like, you’ll be able to buy exclusive prints of many of the pieces over the weekend.
Exclusive Event Merchandise - Get an exclusive memento of your experience with event only products to use in your games and show off to your friends.
If you want to be part of this extravaganza of all things Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000, then get your ticket now as we have strictly limited numbers available for each day.
Full terms and conditions are available here.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Frankly that sounds pretty good if they can deliver what they promise.
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Post by: SilverMK2
No mention of what "event only" products they will try to sell you?
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Post by: notprop
Event only "Ricoh Arena" branded water cups and paper hand towels?
More likely the three FW event only models.
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Post by: SilverMK2
Ah, so not stuff exclusive to only this event, but exclusive to any event they run?
Truly exclusive!
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Kilkrazy wrote:Frankly that sounds pretty good if they can deliver what they promise.
I mean the problem with Games Day was that GW had let it become really crappy. They could have avoided doing that so Hammer Fest will be equally crappy if GW don't put the effort in to make it good.
Has anyone been to the Ricoh Arena and can tell us what the venue is like?
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Post by: Rayvon
Not surprised to see it move elsewhere, the NEC is pretty costly, I am surprised like many others however, to see they have not squeezed it into Warhammer World.
I think I will go and see whats happening for both days, I went to cov uni so I have friends around and I can bail and do something else if its that bad.
It sounds like it might be good, and the past few games days have been a bit of a let down, surely it can't get any worse ?
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Post by: notprop
Of course it can....and don't call me Shirley.
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Post by: reds8n
 Rayvon wrote:Not surprised to see it move elsewhere, the NEC is pretty costly, I am surprised like many others however, to see they have not squeezed it into Warhammer World.
Suspect the revamp they're doing might have made this impractical ? Also can be a bit of a PITA getting to Warhammer World currently due to the ongoing tramsystem works
Still least it'll be easier to get there from the town centre when it's all done
http://www.thetram.net/images/construction-site/Documents/Gregory%20Street%20&%20Lenton%20Lane.pdf
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
 notprop wrote:Event only "Ricoh Arena" branded water cups and paper hand towels?
Or T-Shirts that say "I went to Coventry and all I got was this lousy Warhammer"?
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Post by: Mr. Burning
Kilkrazy wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:Frankly that sounds pretty good if they can deliver what they promise.
I mean the problem with Games Day was that GW had let it become really crappy. They could have avoided doing that so Hammer Fest will be equally crappy if GW don't put the effort in to make it good.
Has anyone been to the Ricoh Arena and can tell us what the venue is like?
Depending on layout it will be cosier than Gamesdays at the NEC and that may not be a bad thing. The venue is much of a muchness. Like any other event and banquet centre.
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Post by: finnan
Am I missing something? This sounds exactly like the last few Games Days...
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Post by: Stormphoenix
Interesting that they make the point that each day will have different seminars and that you'll need to go both days to see them all, but nowhere do they actually list what's on which day..
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Post by: A Town Called Malus
 Stormphoenix wrote:Interesting that they make the point that each day will have different seminars and that you'll need to go both days to see them all, but nowhere do they actually list what's on which day..
Or offer some kind of 2 day ticket which is slightly cheaper than buying 2 one day tickets.... Seriously GW?
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Post by: Smuttbudgie
I might go on the sunday as i dont live too far away in Nuneaton. And if i get bored theres always the casino there to go and play games at
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Post by: Looky Likey
So there is different content on the different days over and above the Golden Demon?
Fair play to GW as they have come up with a way to reduce costs by using a cheaper venue that'll still fit in numbers close to last year's Game Day at the NEC and increase overall attendance by having two days with different content. All that's needed is limited quantities of goodies that you can't reserve to get you to go to day one and Golden Demon to get you to go to day two.
Seriously though, the change of venue is overdue, the NEC is just too big and expensive for what Game Day had become.
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Post by: Rick_1138
I believe its the same set up both days but sunday has the golden demon, but there may be some fiddling round the edges.
I stumped for the sunday as I want to enter GD this year and its a day away to relax, flights to brum and can stay at the venue in the hotel 
Hopefuly it wont be the usual 'shop' but have a few things to see and do and make a day of it, obviously there is going to be a big sales bit, GD's always had that, but make tables, demo's, activities is what makes the day entertaining.
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Post by: monders
My mate text me about this yesterday. I'm all very MEH about it, but it's a weekend away... But it's in Coventry.
Kilkrazy wrote:
It's difficult to sell a £200 Realm of Battle Board to someone if they easily can see they can buy an equal or better product from someone else for £100.
Please point me to where I can get a modular gaming table, of equal or better quality than the RoBB, for £100! Making my own doesn't count, as that requires skill, determination and time!
I'm liking the look of those mousepad style mates though, and they're well easy to store...
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Post by: scarletsquig
^ Games and Gears, Secret Weapon...
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
To be fair neither of those (KS projects) are out yet although both look to be near fulfilment
and no formal decisions have been made about what they'll cost when they hit general retail (although I'm sure they will be cheaper than a RoB board)
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Post by: Kilkrazy
 monders wrote:My mate text me about this yesterday. I'm all very MEH about it, but it's a weekend away... But it's in Coventry.
Kilkrazy wrote:
It's difficult to sell a £200 Realm of Battle Board to someone if they easily can see they can buy an equal or better product from someone else for £100.
Please point me to where I can get a modular gaming table, of equal or better quality than the RoBB, for £100! Making my own doesn't count, as that requires skill, determination and time!
I'm liking the look of those mousepad style mates though, and they're well easy to store...
If you want easy 3D terrain there are various tile systems on the market, for example the "Hexon" system by Kallistra Games
Total Scenic System offers square tiles if you prefer them.
A system from GHQ.
This one is some kind of self finishing system. I don't know the details. You presumably get plain pieces and paint them yourself. Much like Realm of Battle.
All these systems are more flexible and extendable than RoB and cost less.
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Post by: Peregrine
Kilkrazy wrote:All these systems are more flexible and extendable than RoB and cost less.
But they don't look as nice. They're not bad if you want a basic table suitable for gaming and don't care too much about making pretty diorama tables, but they're far short of the " RoB at half the cost" standard.
The real problem with the RoB probably has way more to do with the limited number of people who have room for their own 6x4 table, don't want to just throw a sheet over the kitchen table and put some random boxes on it for hills, and don't want to make their own table. I suspect if GW cut the price in half they probably wouldn't get all that many extra sales, and most of them would probably just gather dust in the closet until they go on ebay.
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Post by: RoninXiC
Honestly? I think the RoB (both versions) look quite bad. One is just a repetition of boring things, the other is filled with loads of skulls... boring.
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Post by: Fenrir Kitsune
RoB? Whats this gotta to with Games Day?
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Post by: A Town Called Malus
 reds8n wrote:http://www.blacklibrary.com/exclusive-products/death-and-defiance.html
that's the book then.
Words alone can no longer convey the horrors of the war that now grips the Imperium. In what should have been an age of enlightenment and glorious triumph, instead warriors from both sides reel from the twin agonies of betrayal and bloodshed; those still fighting on the front lines, and those long forgotten by those they might once have called brother.
Words alone can no longer convey the horrors of the war that now grips the Imperium.
Guess there's no point in buying the book then
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Post by: Kilkrazy
 Peregrine wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:All these systems are more flexible and extendable than RoB and cost less.
But they don't look as nice. They're not bad if you want a basic table suitable for gaming and don't care too much about making pretty diorama tables, but they're far short of the " RoB at half the cost" standard.
The real problem with the RoB probably has way more to do with the limited number of people who have room for their own 6x4 table, don't want to just throw a sheet over the kitchen table and put some random boxes on it for hills, and don't want to make their own table. I suspect if GW cut the price in half they probably wouldn't get all that many extra sales, and most of them would probably just gather dust in the closet until they go on ebay.
I think they look just as nice. The only aesthetic advantage RoB has over the modular systems is that it has "realistic" slopes if you think "realistic" slopes are important for looking nice. They often are a bad thing in practice for wargame models.
I like pretty diorama tables but I wouldn't take RoB for one, I would make my own, and it would be a city scape.
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Post by: Medium of Death
Lets hope they do something interesting or reveal something interesting. Perhaps tease at what they've got planned for the next year. Fat chance of that happening.
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Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That
Kilkrazy wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:Frankly that sounds pretty good if they can deliver what they promise.
I mean the problem with Games Day was that GW had let it become really crappy. They could have avoided doing that so Hammer Fest will be equally crappy if GW don't put the effort in to make it good
Has anyone been to the Ricoh Arena and can tell us what the venue is like?
If you've been to one venue, you've seen them all. It's decent. It's got a Tesco megastore on it's doorstep, so if people want to load up on cheap food at lunchtime, that's always handy.
And the major positive in my book is, you don't have to go through Coventry to get there! Sorry Cov!
The big question this year, though, is will the lighting for Golden Demon be any good? From last year's reports it was an absolute fething disaster!
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Post by: Rick_1138
Probably will be better, the big issue was the room it was held in was so dark, so the little halogen lights GW used was the only illumination. At the LG arena the year before they used the same cabinets and lights, but the big overhead sodium lighting setup was brilliant so everything at ground level was well lit, including the mini's. So hopefully the arena has good overhead lights.
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Post by: Smaug
Looks like the tickets are cheaper on the US site, $20 versus £20.
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Post by: notprop
Saving against the flights?
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Post by: Kilkrazy
More likely a data entry error, but a few quid is hardly going to flood the event with Americans so it wouldn't matter...
Hang on, I could get my brother in Oregon to buy 100, he would send them over here and I could sell them to UK gamers for £18 each and we would clear £600 profit!
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Post by: Quarterdime
Hmmm, as petty as it sounds I really believe the reason they changed the name is because they're no longer hosting games.
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Post by: reds8n
EXCITING NEW CONTENT ANNOUNCEMENT!
DEMONSTRATION PODS.
Running throughout the day will be a series of interactive demonstration pods allowing you to create your own menu of activities.
Order your ticket
How to paint Special Effects.
Our experts will show you a variety of techniques from weathering tank tracks to blood splatter on your armour.
How to paint Techniques.
Have you always wanted to know how to create fantastic looking freehand designs, paint eyes and gems and other great painting techniques? Then this could be the pod for you.
Plastic Fantastic.
Our resident experts will be on hand to show you how build and pose your plastic models so that they look truly awesome.
and then ....
AN ANCIENT ENEMY RETURNS IN OUR SPECIAL NARRATIVE GAMING FEATURE.
Come along and bear witness to the bloody return of one of the Old World's deadliest foes in our special narrative gaming event.
... you recall all those Return of Nagash rumours that have been doing the rounds.
BRAND NEW STAFF ARMY DISPLAYS FOR SATURDAY.
See some truly magnificent armies being displayed by some of our most talented staff. Not only will you be able to see these amazing forces in the flesh but you will be able to talk to the people who built and painted them!
.. Assuming the same spaces will be used for Golden Demon on the Sunday, hence why these are there for 1 day only.
Tickets available on the GW site.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
This is... great... news... I guess?
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Post by: Yodhrin
How to paint special effects; "buy our special effects paint and apply them!"
How to paint Techniques; "buy our regular paints in the Official( tm) Combinations( tm) and apply them!"
Plastic Fantastic; "why buy one of our kits when you can buy several for the bitz? Hey who needs all that 'conversion' stuff anyway, look how conveniently these Space( tm) Marine( tm) bitz glue on to these slightly different Space( tm) Marine( tm) bitz!"
*sigh* It's like GW is inflicting some kind of bizarro-world reverse-Poe's Law on me - I genuinely can't tell anymore if I'm being unfairly cynical or rightfully taking the piss
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Post by: Melcavuk
I dunno, they're offering tutorials and hobby tips at the new games day equivalent. Wasnt the last complaint that games days are just shopping events these days, now hobby content is being added and that isnt right either?
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Post by: reds8n
The narrative gaming event is , hopefully, a good sign.
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Post by: Noir
 Melcavuk wrote:I dunno, they're offering tutorials and hobby tips at the new games day equivalent. Wasnt the last complaint that games days are just shopping events these days, now hobby content is being added and that isnt right either?
Yeah... thats not exactly what poeple were complaining about, when they talk about lack of content. But, i'm guess you already know that.
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Post by: jah-joshua
seriously, GW just can't win with a lot of the fans...
i guess the scales have tipped too far for a lot of people...
i'm just glad that the Golden Demon contest is still going to be around, and it's always nice to chat with the studio guys, so i'm happy that this event is happening...
cheers
jah
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
If it delivers even part of what is promised it's a big improvement over the games day of the last 2-3 years
will it manage to deliver ?
I guess we'll need to wait and see
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Post by: Vermis
...
... Pod...?
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Post by: Melcavuk
Noir wrote: Melcavuk wrote:I dunno, they're offering tutorials and hobby tips at the new games day equivalent. Wasnt the last complaint that games days are just shopping events these days, now hobby content is being added and that isnt right either?
Yeah... thats not exactly what poeple were complaining about, when they talk about lack of content. But, i'm guess you already know that.
This is still more content, its hobby interaction, its events at the event that involve more than just queueing to save on FW postage. Its an improvement.
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Post by: NAVARRO
Cool, hope they take some pics and add them to Visions so I can enjoy it. As for events, nah I stick to Salute.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Yodhrin wrote:How to paint special effects; "buy our special effects paint and apply them!"
How to paint Techniques; "buy our regular paints in the Official( tm) Combinations( tm) and apply them!"
Plastic Fantastic; "why buy one of our kits when you can buy several for the bitz? Hey who needs all that 'conversion' stuff anyway, look how conveniently these Space( tm) Marine( tm) bitz glue on to these slightly different Space( tm) Marine( tm) bitz!"
*sigh* It's like GW is inflicting some kind of bizarro-world reverse-Poe's Law on me - I genuinely can't tell anymore if I'm being unfairly cynical or rightfully taking the piss
They're offering a painting class, why wouldn't they be using their own paints for it? They're offering a conversion class, why wouldn't they be using their kits to show it off? You're being overly cynical here. That would be like looking at the old conversion guides in WD and just exclaiming that it was a corporate shill to buy more kits. Of course it'll make them money, that's kind of their goal, but that's potentially useful hobby content. Watch their painting videos on Youtube. They're actually pretty helpful, even if they stick to GW paints exclusively.
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Post by: Pacific
That's a fair enough point, and it's certainly a step in the right direction. But you just know that none of those conversion clinics are going to say 'use a bit of plasticard here' - and for those that can remember that kind of phrase regularly appearing in WD each month (or, in fact still experience it through other outlets) that is always going to be a stumbling block.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
Melcavuk wrote:I dunno, they're offering tutorials and hobby tips at the new games day equivalent. Wasnt the last complaint that games days are just shopping events these days, now hobby content is being added and that isnt right either?
Well. Depending on how you look at things, GW is so completely gak these days that new The HHHobby content isn't right because it is just more HHHobby gak.
I mean to be fair it will after all be just reasons to shop for GW crap, which as we all know is at best the same as stuff from other sources but a lot more expensive, and at worst more expensive and lower qiality.
Look into your deepest heart of hearts. Do you honestly believe GW is going to charge you £30 to see lots of useful stuff?
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Post by: Noir
Melcavuk wrote:Noir wrote: Melcavuk wrote:I dunno, they're offering tutorials and hobby tips at the new games day equivalent. Wasnt the last complaint that games days are just shopping events these days, now hobby content is being added and that isnt right either?
Yeah... thats not exactly what poeple were complaining about, when they talk about lack of content. But, i'm guess you already know that.
This is still more content, its hobby interaction, its events at the event that involve more than just queueing to save on FW postage. Its an improvement.
Sure its better, but its still worse then before it went to gak in the first place. Still don't change the fact that wasn't what the complaint are about, so impyling we are complaining about GW giving us what we want is, Wrong.
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Post by: Yodhrin
 jah-joshua wrote:seriously, GW just can't win with a lot of the fans...
i guess the scales have tipped too far for a lot of people...
i'm just glad that the Golden Demon contest is still going to be around, and it's always nice to chat with the studio guys, so i'm happy that this event is happening...
cheers
jah
I was actually semi-serious with my last line there; I want to believe GW will "do the right thing" when this sort of information arises....but I just struggle to given their track record.
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Post by: Steve steveson
Kilkrazy wrote: Melcavuk wrote:I dunno, they're offering tutorials and hobby tips at the new games day equivalent. Wasnt the last complaint that games days are just shopping events these days, now hobby content is being added and that isnt right either?
Well. Depending on how you look at things, GW is so completely gak these days that new The HHHobby content isn't right because it is just more HHHobby gak.
I mean to be fair it will after all be just reasons to shop for GW crap, which as we all know is at best the same as stuff from other sources but a lot more expensive, and at worst more expensive and lower qiality.
Look into your deepest heart of hearts. Do you honestly believe GW is going to charge you £30 to see lots of useful stuff?
What a surprise. A company runs an event, uses and tries to sell it's own products and promotes it's own stuff... What else do you expect?
They realized Games Day had become something bad, so got rid of it and are trying something new. Rather than saying "Ok. It looks like GW are trying to do something we asked for, giving more content, workshops, games and not just another sales event with no savings, lets see how this pans out" people are just screaming "It's GW! It's going to be gak!". How about just waiting and seeing, and criticizing after the event if it is due?
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Post by: Kilkrazy
To be honest I expect a company running an event for promotion of its own goods not to charge visitors for the privilege of going into what is in essence a large pop-up shop.
If the seminars and other stuff are actually good, then obviously that makes a difference for fans, and may justify a ticket price, however as you say we shall have to wait until after the event to find out if GW will have managed to turn over a new leaf in that respect.
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Post by: Herzlos
Everyone is hopeful that these seminars and demos will be worth the money, but we've seen enough of GW's behaviour to be anything but skeptical. I really hope the painting demos are more than just sales pitches.
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Post by: Yodhrin
 Steve steveson wrote: Kilkrazy wrote: Melcavuk wrote:I dunno, they're offering tutorials and hobby tips at the new games day equivalent. Wasnt the last complaint that games days are just shopping events these days, now hobby content is being added and that isnt right either?
Well. Depending on how you look at things, GW is so completely gak these days that new The HHHobby content isn't right because it is just more HHHobby gak.
I mean to be fair it will after all be just reasons to shop for GW crap, which as we all know is at best the same as stuff from other sources but a lot more expensive, and at worst more expensive and lower qiality.
Look into your deepest heart of hearts. Do you honestly believe GW is going to charge you £30 to see lots of useful stuff?
What a surprise. A company runs an event, uses and tries to sell it's own products and promotes it's own stuff... What else do you expect?
They realized Games Day had become something bad, so got rid of it and are trying something new. Rather than saying "Ok. It looks like GW are trying to do something we asked for, giving more content, workshops, games and not just another sales event with no savings, lets see how this pans out" people are just screaming "It's GW! It's going to be gak!". How about just waiting and seeing, and criticizing after the event if it is due?
You get how benefit of the doubt works, right?
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Post by: Alpharius
Kilkrazy wrote:To be honest I expect a company running an event for promotion of its own goods not to charge visitors for the privilege of going into what is in essence a large pop-up shop.
If the seminars and other stuff are actually good, then obviously that makes a difference for fans, and may justify a ticket price, however as you say we shall have to wait until after the event to find out if GW will have managed to turn over a new leaf in that respect.
Yes, exactly!
rex non potest peccare! (thanks H.B.M.C.!) isn't going to cut it anymore (!).
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Post by: jah-joshua
personally, Games Day has only ever been about the Golden Demon competition, a chance to chat with the studio guys, get my hands on the event mini and FW show only models, and catch up with friends...
it sounds like Warhammerfest still has all that...
sure, the days of free grab bags, and event mini included in the cost of the ticket, were nice, but things change and get more expensive every year...
this is true for almost every product i need to live, let alone the luxury items i choose to buy...
i love GW for the art, fluff, and plastics, which are still just as good, to me...
i don't use GW paints and brushes, have never bought a Finecast mini, and get 90% of my stuff (books and minis) at a discount...
i haven't bought a WD or Visions since my suscription ran out in March, nor do i support the crazy "cash-grab" moves that GW makes, so one can see why i am so positive all the time...
i simply buy what i like, most often at a a nice discount, and don't sweat the rest...
i have enjoyed every GW event i've ever been to, so i am glad that they didn't just can the whole thing altogether...
my last Games Day L.A., in 2008, i hung out with Gary Oldman, had my stuff on display in the Demon Lounge, walked away with a few finalist pins, and poured over Jes Goodwin's sketchbooks with Allan Carrasco!!!
yet, people had been saying the Games Day was dead for a few years before 2008 already...
for me, there is no HHHobby, because i never drank the Kool-Aid...
there is just some great art, fun fiction, awesome models, and a lot of good friends...
cheers
jah
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Post by: gunslingerpro
The Games Day you describe is one I would go to, and I neither own nor play any GW products. Unfortunately, it appears that type of community outreach isn't really what they are after anymore.
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Post by: redbristles
Well I just bought my ticket for the Sunday, figure I might actually enter Golden Daemon this time around as well. An interesting thing I noticed is that the ticket wasn't numbered, so I have no idea how many were sold before mine arrived, interesting.
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Post by: Kilkrazy
A lot of people will be very interested to hear your impressions of the event.
I hope you have reserved the bank holiday Monday to write up a report!
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Post by: redbristles
Kilkrazy wrote:A lot of people will be very interested to hear your impressions of the event.
I hope you have reserved the bank holiday Monday to write up a report!
Don't worry I'll do my best to give a good run-down afterwards!
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
Got me head scratching too
Interactive iPod?
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Post by: -Loki-
Maybe like those 'fashion pods' they have at malls? Where you walk through, stare into a mirror, and a GW employee hands you a box that would look absolutely fabulous in front of you on the counter with your credit card ready.
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Post by: Herzlos
I assume they mean something like this:
rather than the demo's just being a tables which might get swarmed.
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Post by: reds8n
http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/
has some details about the various seminars, display pods, early event releases etc etc.
Blood Angel shirt isn't too bad I guess.
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Post by: Herzlos
If anyone ends up with a spare T-shirt in a Medium let me know!
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Post by: Melcavuk
I'll be going and not overly interested in buying the t-shirt so if anything event only is wanted that wont take up too much of my time I'd be happy to pick it up
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Post by: Herzlos
After realising how much it's likely to cost (£25? £30?) even before shipping I think it's likely way beyond budget. Thanks though!
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Post by: Rick_1138
Well I got my ticket a while ago and am able to fly down from Aberdeen for less than the train!!
For me Games Day has always been about Golden demon and the chance to fondle some FW stuff early.
The days of mass games, shop made fancy terrain trying to out do each other are long gone.
However I am giving the 'Fest' the benefit of the doubt and see what they offer.
I think GW does realise that last years G,Day was very poorly received and they probably don't want their premier event to be seen as a waste of time.
Hopefully it will be a day where you can spend 5 hours and see everything but not double up on things and feel it was worth it all.
A finalist medal or trophy wouldn't go amiss either, but we have to see.
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Post by: Looky Likey
The move to more seminar based approach seems to be a smart one as it works well for the weekender events. I do think that the number of seminars is a bit small at this one, the pods help but I'm worried that the popular ones will have big queues.
Speaking of queues I hope they get the merchandise queue system sorted, I will not buy anything if its a disorganised scrum.
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Post by: UNCLEBADTOUCH
Personally think they need to up their game, nine of this grey curtain and a LCD TV nonsense shown in their own promotional. Proper high quality individualised stations, have assigned ticketing for each seminar so you can see everything and nothing gets too overcrowded and have DVDs if the seminars available to purchase after the fact for the modelling workshops. They are supposed to be the big fish in the industry charging top prices so act like it. Make it a high quality event that rewards people for going and aim to have it so it becomes a prestige desire able event again.
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Post by: Looky Likey
The seminars have some reserved seating that you can get tickets for on the day, although I suspect the queues for that to be painful. The pods do not have any ticketing system I've seen announced.
Having been to Nine Worlds and Uk Games Expo with their pre booking system you would hope Games Workshop could do something similar.
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Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That
They'd better get the lightning right for Golden Demon - otherwise they'll be a riot.
What a kick in the teeth for anybody that spent dozens of hours on their entries, only to be let down by gak lightning.
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Post by: xxvaderxx
Sounds like a rehash of last years failure. Instead of talking to staff on their respective boths, they will give seminars. Done, same as last year.
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Post by: Looky Likey
Just phoned up Forgeworld to try and add in IA13 to my reservation, however you can't reserve it. They then confirmed that they would be restocking Saturday evening for Sunday morning, so FW at least will have fresh stock for both days.
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Post by: Melcavuk
I'll be trying to pickup IA13 on the Sunday but something tells me it'll be going fast.
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Post by: whitehorn
Looks like you'll be able to buy tickets at the door on the day:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Events/Warhammer_Fest_Tickets.html
Not sure there was ever a time you could buy tickets for games day on the day, they used to sell out months ahead.
Properly sad, as games day was the highlight of my year at one point.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Wait, so they actually expect that people will fork out for travel, food, and potentially accommodation expenses and then risk not actually getting in to the event that is supposedly the whole point of the trip(albeit a small risk given that if they've not sold out the tickets in advance they'll likely not sell out on the day either, but still)?
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Post by: Rayvon
 Yodhrin wrote:
Wait, so they actually expect that people will fork out for travel, food, and potentially accommodation expenses and then risk not actually getting in to the event that is supposedly the whole point of the trip(albeit a small risk given that if they've not sold out the tickets in advance they'll likely not sell out on the day either, but still)?
Or maybe if you are local you can just pop in ?
You used to be able to buy tickets on the door when it was held in Derby assembly rooms, I used to pop in all the time.
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Post by: Herzlos
Sounds like they don't think it'll sell out then. That's worrying.
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Post by: Rick_1138
TBF they could be keeping tickets at the door for any walk ins, as they do get a lot of them but they get turned away.
This is a bit of a new format for them. I was talking to the nicest (and excited) FW staffer ever when I ordered some stuff to pick up on the sunday and they all seem really up for it this year.
We will see....GD entries almost finished.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Rayvon wrote: Yodhrin wrote:
Wait, so they actually expect that people will fork out for travel, food, and potentially accommodation expenses and then risk not actually getting in to the event that is supposedly the whole point of the trip(albeit a small risk given that if they've not sold out the tickets in advance they'll likely not sell out on the day either, but still)?
Or maybe if you are local you can just pop in ?
You used to be able to buy tickets on the door when it was held in Derby assembly rooms, I used to pop in all the time.
Most people attending GD/ WHF tend to be from elsewhere, in my experience. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but the Derby days was back when the design team sat at a table to meet folk with tinnies/pints smoking like chimneys, no? Times have changed a tad
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Post by: Scrub
How many Dakka members are headed to the Ricoh on the 11th?
I went to my first wargaming 'event' this year in the form of Salute and it was an absolute blast!
I'm a big fan of all things Warhammer and The End Times stuff has really piqued my interest again so I'm pretty hyped, said hype is somewhat dampened by the negative coverage the previous Games Days have had over the past few years, though.
I recall the Beasts of War crew getting kicked out for no good reason and accusations that the entire show is just a glorified retail experience, which isn't what I'm after.
It's gonna cost £50 to attend, worth a punt in your opinion? Or save the dosh for a trip to Warhammer World and get to see all of the exhibits instead?
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Post by: Herzlos
If you're not after a glorified retail experience, and liked Salute, then this likely isn't for you.
There will be some seminars/demos and a lot of GW/exclusive stuff to buy, and the Golden Demon, and that's probably it. It's a new format so we're not entirely sure; it could turn out to be awesome.
How far do you need to travel for it? If you're nearby or in the area anyway and a massive GW fan then it's maybe worth going in for the day, but I wouldn't be travelling across the country or staying overnight for.
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Post by: Pantasticus
I think it's worrying that there are still tickets for sale, Games Day used to sell out well before the event. Also strikes of desperation that they are selling them at the door? Must have a lot left if they can actually advertise that as an option.
It is no surprise though, Warhammer Fest was kept secret for so long, so late into the year that many including myself had given up on there being a Games Day or its equivalent at all. Believe it or not some of us need time to arrange leave from work in order to attend, and having already done that for a presumed September games day earlier in the year, it was was frustrating to say the least that I had to move it. Maybe I was stupid to book time off so far in advance, but Games Day has been at the end of September for the past 25 years, so it seemed a sensible decision at the time. Next year I probably won't book the leave and wait for a confirmed date, and if I can't get the time to go, so be it. But that all depends on what Warhammer Fest is like I guess, if its worth going back at all. I remain hopeful.
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Post by: Looky Likey
Those who went today how was it and what was the attendance like?
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Post by: Looky Likey
Feedback from me, not that busy considering it was GD, Warhammer GD cabinets more than half empty, very mixed standard.
Sales area was well organised and large. In fact the venue was great for the amount of people who attended with plenty of space, good food, no massive queues.
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Post by: Azreal13
 Looky Likey wrote:Feedback from me, not that busy considering it was GD, Warhammer GD cabinets more than half empty, very mixed standard.
Sales area was well organised and large. In fact the venue was great for the amount of people who attended with plenty of space, good food, no massive queues.
Of course it was!
One can infer a lot about the state of GM from the last couple of years though. Couldn't fill a smaller venue last year, moved to another, I assume, smaller venue this year, still selling tickets on the door when they'd sell out weeks in advance historically.
Shame.
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Post by: Simo429
Do they not have the unique games that clubs used to design?
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Post by: Looky Likey
Nope.
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Post by: Simo429
suppose that's what happens when you destroy all associated clubs they certainly did it with mine, I'd love to know the strategy behind all of this.
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Post by: TwilightSparkles
Strategy currently seems to be to concentrate on a core loyal fan base without growing the market, and making the product harder to obtain. Basically the reverse of most businesses. I would have liked to check ths event out but the cost, and the likely quality, was prohibitive. So far all the feedback I have read was that this was essentially propped up by Forgeworld, again.
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