Marvel has revealed it's to release a sequel to Guardians of the Galaxy in 2017.
The announcement was made at the Comic Con event in San Diego during a discussion about another of Marvel's franchises, the Avengers.
Josh Brolin has been confirmed to play super villain Thanos and will feature in both Avengers: Age of Ultron and Guardians of the Galaxy 2.
The first Galaxy film is about to be released in UK cinemas.
The sequel has been scheduled for July 28, 2017.
So, 2014. DC are struggling to get their biggest names into the same film, Fox are rebooting the Fantastic Four in what may be the movie train wreck of the decade, and Marvel announce a SECOND film whose lead cast include a talking racoon and a monosyllabic alien tree... Before the first is even released.
There's also some sort of interesting info on Age of Ultron in the article, and a mention of the Infinity Gauntlet.
Wow, that's some good buzz. Anyone know how the other more recent Marvel films did pre-release buzz wise. 100% is pretty impressive even if it is only out of 27 reviews.
Well if they wait until it's a success they will have to pay all the actors even more
since the buzz/prescreens etc all seem to be positive
signing them early (probably via clauses in their contracts from the first movie) they probably save a bit of cash, and make sure none of them are busy doing something else
It is a toss up for the actors. Generally getting cast as an actual hero with the marvel films almost guarentees work for the next decade. But you know they aren't paying anyone except people like RDJ super high numbers. Especially the newer kids on the block.
But yeah, announcing early means they could likely save themselves some decent cash on the actors since they wouldn't be able to point to how much it made the studio during negotiations.
Soladrin wrote: It's also a very effective way to raise hype just before the first one comes out.
Telling people there will be a sequel makes them more invested and probably guarantees higher numbers.
Yeah, you see that a lot. It doesn't really matter if it's crap, so long as the opening weekend is really strong. You also see things like "leaks" of how test audiences loved it, etc. The new thing seems to be inflating opening box office numbers.
Soladrin wrote: It's also a very effective way to raise hype just before the first one comes out.
Telling people there will be a sequel makes them more invested and probably guarantees higher numbers.
Yeah, you see that a lot. It doesn't really matter if it's crap, so long as the opening weekend is really strong. You also see things like "leaks" of how test audiences loved it, etc. The new thing seems to be inflating opening box office numbers.
Yep, because sadly, large studio's don't look further then box office numbers to decide if something was a flop or not.
I hadn't considered the "sequel news = people more interested to see the first one" angle. Anyway, from the things I've listened to from a few places (not those reviews) this one hits it out of the part, and is very Avenger-y in the "fun" department, rather than needing to be dramatic, gritty, dark, brooding and all those other things DC seems to think comic book movies are about.
Anyway, this Friday I'll be seeing it. Or Saturday. One of the two. Some people in our group want to see Hercules which is ok - I ambivalent to that - but more want to see GotG.
Also, it is rather good for the actors involved; Sure, no one but RDJ is getting paid super amounts of money, but can you imagine what having "Most Successful Comic Book Film Adaptation of All Time" on your resume as an actor would do for you?
... and then add Scarlet Johansson on top of that. And this was after they had Michael Douglas on stage. And Glenn Close is in this new film. And Robert Redford was in the last one. Anyone who says the Marvel films aren't something special is just deluding themselves.
Also looks like Evans is in full swing for Avengers 2 and anybody notice that Spader seemed to be the only guy with zero enthusiasm when he came out on stage.
... and then add Scarlet Johansson on top of that. And this was after they had Michael Douglas on stage. And Glenn Close is in this new film. And Robert Redford was in the last one. Anyone who says the Marvel films aren't something special is just deluding themselves.
I suspect that contracts offering generous gross points have a lot to do with Marvel's ability to lure the biggest stars. It ends up being a lot of money in the case of summer blockbusters. In other cases (Evans, Hemsworth) they managed to get rising talents who hadn't hit it big yet, so the opportunity to star was appealing. And to be fair, Nolan's Batman films had great casts, and Man of Steel's wasn't exactly shabby either. Cavill falls into the 'catch a rising talent' category like Evans and Hemsworth. The formula isn't Marvel's alone.
Again, it's probably about compensation for some, and opportunity for others. It's pretty unlikely a superhero movie is going to get any of them Oscar consideration and vault their careers into that stratosphere if they haven't been there already. It's only happened once, and in that case both the performance and film were very, very special.
Hulksmash wrote: Also looks like Evans is in full swing for Avengers 2 and anybody notice that Spader seemed to be the only guy with zero enthusiasm when he came out on stage.
I think he was overwhelmed by the reaction, and considering where he was and who else he was sharing that table with, it's easy to see why.
Funny that this news comes on the tail end of a conversation I had about WWE the other day, joking that Batista probably disappeared to start filming on this.
Ahtman wrote: I was curious but saw the "Directed by Brett Ratner" and quickly lost interest..
Yeah, I didn't see that until the credits - boo on me for not doing my due diligence. I don't know who's worse - that guy, the guys who crap out a paranormal activity every year, or that Damon Lindelof.
I've got plans to go see Guardians on Monday with a friend, but it's gonna be pretty tough to hold out - I could theoretically go after I get off work in the morning.
Saw it yesterday at 11:30 am, watching it again today at 9:15pm with my brother. Possibly seeing it again at the weekend with friends. I really really enjoyed that film.
Just got back from it. I enjoyed it quite a lot. I still think Cap 2 was better, and this movie criminally underutilised Nebula and the Collector, but otherwise it was great.
Thanos was scary as , One of the most awesome parts of the movie for me was
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When Ronan and Thanos's Viceroy (The same guy that Loki was afraid of in Avengers) or w/e you want to call him are talking and he's yelling at Ronan to lower his voice and Ronan just breaks the dudes neck.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Just got back from it. I enjoyed it quite a lot. I still think Cap 2 was better, and this movie criminally underutilised Nebula and the Collector, but otherwise it was great.
I did think the
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Howard the Duck
...cameo at the end was hilarious.
And Thanos was intimidating!
Yup. I'm not 100% on the entirely golden armour, but they absolutely nailed Thanos. The dude looked like he could crush Captain America in a single hand without breaking a sweat!
As folks are now discussing the film itself, I've added a spoiler warning to the title just in case and I'll be bowing out now, as I have yet to see it. It seems to be getting good reviews, though!
H.B.M.C. wrote: Just got back from it. I enjoyed it quite a lot. I still think Cap 2 was better, and this movie criminally underutilised Nebula and the Collector, but otherwise it was great.
And Thanos was intimidating!
That is a good description. I thought Nebula was going to have a wee bit more story time.
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There was that moment when Rhonan decided to betray Thanos and everyone around him was mortified, and his second said "But Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe!" Having the giant skull planet also opens up the possibility of Galactus, or Galactus-like depending on the wacky film rights, in the future.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Just got back from it. I enjoyed it quite a lot. I still think Cap 2 was better, and this movie criminally underutilised Nebula and the Collector, but otherwise it was great.
And Thanos was intimidating!
That is a good description. I thought Nebula was going to have a wee bit more story time.
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There was that moment when Rhonan decided to betray Thanos and everyone around him was mortified, and his second said "But Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe!" Having the giant skull planet also opens up the possibility of Galactus, or Galactus-like depending on the wacky film rights, in the future.
Galactus comes under the Fantastic Four franchise, sadly. Knowhere (the skull planet) is the head of a celestial anyway, and they're completely separate from Galactus. (Celestials are an ancient race of energy beings, Galactus is an elder of the universe, the last remnant of the universe that came before this one)
Goliath wrote: Galactus comes under the Fantastic Four franchise, sadly.
I know, but if the movie bombs they might end up with him back, though I'm not holding my breath.
Goliath wrote: Knowhere (the skull planet) is the head of a celestial anyway, and they're completely separate from Galactus.
I know, which is why I didn't say it was his skull. Showing that there were/are creatures in the galaxy of that size still opens the door for enormous creatures, such as Galactus. It is a way of setting the audience up.
Goliath wrote: Galactus comes under the Fantastic Four franchise, sadly.
I know, but if the movie bombs they might end up with him back, though I'm not holding my breath.
Goliath wrote: Knowhere (the skull planet) is the head of a celestial anyway, and they're completely separate from Galactus.
I know, which is why I didn't say it was his skull. Showing that there were/are creatures in the galaxy of that size still opens the door for enormous creatures, such as Galactus. It is a way of setting the audience up.
Ah, my mistake; I thought you were going in a different direction with your comment
I'd like to think that the FF film will bomb and the rights will revert, but the cynic in me says that even if it's the worst film in the history of cinema, and causes a catastrophic loss for Fox, they'll still make a point of hanging on to the rights just to feth with Marvel.
There was that moment when Rhonan decided to betray Thanos and everyone around him was mortified, and his second said "But Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe!" Having the giant skull planet also opens up the possibility of Galactus, or Galactus-like depending on the wacky film rights, in the future.
All it really does is open the doors to the Celestials, one of which we saw when the Collector was explaining the Infinity Stones. That's great, but as Galactus sadly remains in the hands of FOX and their laughably bad attempts at making The Fantastic Four, we'll have to get by with the giant unknowable god-machine thingies that make up the Celestial race.
Compel wrote: Wasn't there a story that they put out a 'fake' FF film just so they could keep the rights?
hotsauceman1 wrote: *Raises Hand*
What happened to the Aeather after the collecters Accident?
Didn't Thor 2 end with him giving someone a message about having tracked down another one? Or was he talking to himself? I haven't seen it since the theater so don't recall exactly.
Just got back from the film, absolutely loved every minute of it, it was everything I hoped it would be and so much more, I'd go so far as to say that its basically the perfect movie.
chaos0xomega wrote: Just got back from the film, absolutely loved every minute of it, it was everything I hoped it would be and so much more, I'd go so far as to say that its basically the perfect movie.
I'd say it is a solid 3 star film. I'd put Avengers, CA2, and Iron Man 2 as being a bit better.
I flat out disliked the following:
1) The alien designs were terrible. I know they're being faithful to the comics, but Marvel's aliens are bland and look like something out of a second rate Star Trek TNG episode.
2) NovaCorp. Again, bland uniforms, half of them look "Terran", but aren't?
3) Far too much cringe worthy or just cheesy dialogue coming from Gamora, Nebulon, and Quill and a few tertiary characters.
4) The pulled out of the donkey cave resolution.
Spoiler:
First you establish that Ronin without the Stone is a complete bad ass that can toss Drax around effortlessly and then suddenly Quill is half super alien and can hold onto the Stone and incinerate Ronin? Okay then...
I was unimpressed by:
1) Chris Pratt as Peter Quill. His acting wasn't bad, the character was constantly cheesy.
2) Zoe Saldana as Gamora. Does she even know how to act or were her lines so bad that she delivered them like a robot?
3) Everytime Nebulon opened her mouth I just wanted to groan.
4) The plot. It was a generic losers coming together against all odds to save the day.
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I knew that going into it, but damn they rushed the set up and the By Our Powers Combined We Are Purple Infinity Stone was cringe inducing.
However:
1) Bautista's delivery of his literal lines was consistently hilarious and didn't get old for me.
2) Rocket was absolutely brilliant.
3) Groot was much better than expected and hi
Spoiler:
s death scene brought a tear to my eye.
4) Most of the action was very good.
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The prison breakout scene was both hilarious and exhilirating
Overall, the good greatly outweighed the bad. When the film took itself seriously, ie the rarara let's do this guys speeches, it was painful to watch. When it embraced the cheesy action-comedy and let fly it was a blast. I don't know if I'll watch it again.
For the record I also thought Days of Future Past was better and had much better acting from the entire cast.
I haven't seen this yet, not sure if should spend the money on tickets or just wait and rent it. Honestly, the trailer didn't impress me, but I am slightly interested because that guy from Parks and Recreation is in it, i forget his name, but I love that show.
jewels wrote: I haven't seen this yet, not sure if should spend the money on tickets or just wait and rent it. Honestly, the trailer didn't impress me, but I am slightly interested because that guy from Parks and Recreation is in it, i forget his name, but I love that show.
Christ Pratt and it's worth going to see in the theater.
Saw it again today, enjoyed it just as much the second time through.
trexmeyer wrote: I'd say it is a solid 3 star film. I'd put Avengers, CA2, and Iron Man 2 as being a bit better.
I flat out disliked the following:
1) The alien designs were terrible. I know they're being faithful to the comics, but Marvel's aliens are bland and look like something out of a second rate Star Trek TNG episode.
2) NovaCorp. Again, bland uniforms, half of them look "Terran", but aren't?
3) Far too much cringe worthy or just cheesy dialogue coming from Gamora, Nebulon, and Quill and a few tertiary characters.
4) The pulled out of the donkey cave resolution.
Spoiler:
First you establish that Ronin without the Stone is a complete bad ass that can toss Drax around effortlessly and then suddenly Quill is half super alien and can hold onto the Stone and incinerate Ronin? Okay then...
I was unimpressed by:
1) Chris Pratt as Peter Quill. His acting wasn't bad, the character was constantly cheesy.
2) Zoe Saldana as Gamora. Does she even know how to act or were her lines so bad that she delivered them like a robot?
3) Everytime Nebulon opened her mouth I just wanted to groan.
4) The plot. It was a generic losers coming together against all odds to save the day.
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I knew that going into it, but damn they rushed the set up and the By Our Powers Combined We Are Purple Infinity Stone was cringe inducing.
However:
1) Bautista's delivery of his literal lines was consistently hilarious and didn't get old for me.
2) Rocket was absolutely brilliant.
3) Groot was much better than expected and hi
Spoiler:
s death scene brought a tear to my eye.
4) Most of the action was very good.
Spoiler:
The prison breakout scene was both hilarious and exhilirating
Overall, the good greatly outweighed the bad. When the film took itself seriously, ie the rarara let's do this guys speeches, it was painful to watch. When it embraced the cheesy action-comedy and let fly it was a blast. I don't know if I'll watch it again.
For the record I also thought Days of Future Past was better and had much better acting from the entire cast.
Your opinion would be the minority one it seems, and I'd say a lot of your negativity stems from you simply 'not getting it'. You should have gone in expecting this to be "The Fifth Element" meets "Chronicles of Riddick", not Star Wars or Star Trek.
Are you kidding me? The 5th Element was a much better film
I went in expecting Guardians to be a comedy. It is absolutely fine when it is a comedy. However, that doesn't excuse poor writing, poor acting, and instances of embarrassing dialogue. I've also noticed that people suck down absolute crap as if it some great work of art so it is no surprise to me that a film that is actually good is being praised as "perfect" or "the best ever."
First things first, I just want to say you can definitely tell Disney owns Marvel, considering
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The fact that they beat Ronin SOLELY because of a Dance/Sing jigg
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but there were three really cringe worthy parts where it was just "Wow, that dude should totally be dead right now...."
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The part where Groot stabs Drax in the chest after he was drowning, the part where Quill and Gamora are stuck in space, and when Drax gets hit by a FREAKING SHIP.
I would rate the movie at about a 7-8 out of 10; It was highly enjoyable and I loved all the characterization (Didn't expect to like Drax anywhere near as much as I did, but I never read the comics), but there were parts (mostly just the three already mentioned) that it was just like "Um.... what? I can suspend my disbelief sure, but what?"
I also loved how it wasn't like the Avengers where Cap was making all the shots, but GotG had Rocket, Gamora, AND Quill taking the helm at different times.
I watched it today and found it very enjoyable. It had a good balance of comedy and seriousness and even the 3D was done well, especially in the beginning at the hospital where there were not special effects to hide the blemishes that plague the technology.
I also dislike the "dance-off" thing and some of the jokes involving Rocket seemed a little forced. I still don't understand how either of those two survived in space without suits though. I mean even comic book movies should be at least that intelligent about how things work. But those are minor nitpicks.
I did appreciate the little details such as the "flashback" at the Collector's place. Seeing a Celestial in action was pretty cool.
To be fair, Quill was seen prior to that scene in space without an actual "Suit", so I just took it as "Jacket is space worthy" as silly as that seemed.
It was the other scene where it was "WHAT?!? BULL!". People can survive in space for 30 seconds provided they don't hold their breath (If what I read online is true), but that was WAYY longer than 30 seconds.
Slarg232 wrote: People can survive in space for 30 seconds provided they don't hold their breath (If what I read online is true), but that was WAYY longer than 30 seconds.
Slarg232 wrote: People can survive in space for 30 seconds provided they don't hold their breath (If what I read online is true), but that was WAYY longer than 30 seconds.
Well, Gamora isn't exactly human after all...
Quill is though.
Despite what the movie stated, the reason he did what he did at the end (Very End) was due to his wicked dance moves, not anything else.
Slarg232 wrote: People can survive in space for 30 seconds provided they don't hold their breath (If what I read online is true), but that was WAYY longer than 30 seconds.
Well, Gamora isn't exactly human after all...
Quill is though.
Despite what the movie stated, the reason he did what he did at the end (Very End) was due to his wicked dance moves, not anything else.
He definitely is...
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Except for the whole part where he's actually half-alien and of a royal bloodline plus that whole thing about it being a movie and he was really only out in space for a few seconds which is capable of being survived in.
I get people not liking certain parts of the movie like the Peter Quill shenanigans or the "human looking aliens" but it's basically criticizing the movie because it's faithful to its canon origins.
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Not to mention that if you actually paid attention to the movie, Quill didn't beat Ronan by dancing at him, it was a distraction. It was kind of why the scene was followed by Quill telling him that he was distracting him. Even then Quill wasn't able to completely control the Infinity Gem on his own. It was only because he was part alien and the others helped to absorb some of the energy backlash. I get that there was the whole "power of friendship" thing thrown in but this is a movie based on a comic book. Either take it with a grain of salt or don't go to see movies like this and complain they aren't meeting your standards for realism.
Considering Rocket points out that Gamorra will be dead in "minutes" even with her modifications and Quill is well, not fully human, I had less trouble with the space walk scene. The frost just disappearing from both their bodies when they wound up on the Ravager ship was actually more annoying
Saw it with the wife and loved it. Seeing it with a buddy tonight because it's awesome.
Hulksmash wrote: Considering Rocket points out that Gamorra will be dead in "minutes" even with her modifications and Quill is well, not fully human, I had less trouble with the space walk scene. The frost just disappearing from both their bodies when they wound up on the Ravager ship was actually more annoying
Saw it with the wife and loved it. Seeing it with a buddy tonight because it's awesome.
Yes, I will agree that annoyed me for a few minutes because there should have been some kind of marks or at least his eyes should have still had the exploded veins they did in space but I'll just accept they went into a "healing pod" off screen or as Lucy Lawless would say, "When you see things like that, a wizard did it."
First you establish that Ronin without the Stone is a complete bad ass that can toss Drax around effortlessly and then suddenly Quill is half super alien and can hold onto the Stone and incinerate Ronin? Okay then...
I really liked it, but it was the characters that made the film, the story was pretty bad. A lot of the actors went underused and had very little dialogue, especially Glenn Close and Benecio Del Toro.
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I did find some of the stupidity took me out of it a bit. For a movie with it's tongue so firmly in it cheek you think tit would mock itself more often when it does something incredibly stupid, like have people survive in space or be hit by 500 tonne ships at speed .The nova core ships all turning into a giant net was pretty bad in so much that it just seemed really contrived to me. I also didn't find the villain particularly interesting, I'm not getting where people found thanos intimidating, I was more confused. The first time I heard drax talk I thought "this guy is a terrible actor, why oh why would you cast from the ufc" but quickly its explained that his people are 100% literal and don't understand metaphor and it all falls into place and his earnestness and cadence make sense. Gamorra's a pretty crappy assassin, just gonna put that out there.
With that said, the characters are incredibly affable and they totally make the movie worth seeing, even if the story isn't great.
Slarg232 wrote: People can survive in space for 30 seconds provided they don't hold their breath (If what I read online is true), but that was WAYY longer than 30 seconds.
Well, Gamora isn't exactly human after all...
Quill is though.
Despite what the movie stated, the reason he did what he did at the end (Very End) was due to his wicked dance moves, not anything else.
He definitely is...
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Except for the whole part where he's actually half-alien and of a royal bloodline plus that whole thing about it being a movie and he was really only out in space for a few seconds which is capable of being survived in.
I get people not liking certain parts of the movie like the Peter Quill shenanigans or the "human looking aliens" but it's basically criticizing the movie because it's faithful to its canon origins.
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Not to mention that if you actually paid attention to the movie, Quill didn't beat Ronan by dancing at him, it was a distraction. It was kind of why the scene was followed by Quill telling him that he was distracting him. Even then Quill wasn't able to completely control the Infinity Gem on his own. It was only because he was part alien and the others helped to absorb some of the energy backlash. I get that there was the whole "power of friendship" thing thrown in but this is a movie based on a comic book. Either take it with a grain of salt or don't go to see movies like this and complain they aren't meeting your standards for realism.
I loved the distraction, I just also loved poking fun at the movie
I had a blast, movie needs more Rocket. They also had Rocket's fuzzy CG model Oreo on the red carpet for the premier. Little guy hopped right up on James Gunn's shoulder and mugged for the camera. Predicting an increase of pet raccoons in the United States.
I don't know hwy but I frequently find Glenn Close irritating to watch. This was no exception. The only time I've really found her watchable was her run on The Shield.
Too bad they didn't expand on the Collector being an "elder of the universe". I wonder if younger people think he's a rip-off of that STTNG character who wanted Data for his collection.
I would argue that they made it clear early on that Quill is not 100% human.
1. During the first scene, his mother refers to his father as "an angel made of light" or something thereabouts. Shortly afterwards, Quill is abducted by a space ship.
2. Yondu and the Ravagers mention several times that Quill was supposed to be delivered to his father. Presumably, a human being is not hiring space aliens from another part of the galaxy to retrieve his son from his own planet.
Just those two things are pretty solid hints that Quill is not 100% human.
As to Ronan and the ship
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He has the power of an Infinity Stone when he gets hit by Rocket's ship. Him surviving is hardly unusual. It isn't until Rocket and Drax destroy the hammer holding the Infinity Stone that Ronan returns to being mortal.
They also specifically mentioned earlier that an ancient race, as a group, were able to control the stones power for a short period. This, and his ancestry, sets up that working together to share the energy made it possible for them not to die instantly.
Personally, one of the things that peeved me about the movie was how they portrayed the Kree and the Nova Corps. Ronan himself was fine for the most part but his army and the tech they used looked decrepit and really more like raiders than fanatical followers of Ronan.
I mean here's what Kree soldiers look like in the comics.
While I understand that Ronan wasn't formally using the actual military from the Kree Empire, you'd still think they'd have similar looking wargear looking more like them. (And the fact they were using melee weapons instead of range most of the time in the movie but dat's plot armour for you folks).
And the Nova Corps themselves, on the other hand, aesthetically looked fine for the most part but didn't really show off that they were effectively the bargain bin Green Lantern Corps of Xandar. I was kinda disappointed they didn't show them using their powers via the Nova Force and had them use starfighters instead. Plus the net thing was kinda silly, given that the enemy ships could have tried going around them and shoot them from behind.
Other than that Grute was definitely the MVP of the movie for me. We are Grute indeed.
I would argue that they made it clear early on that Quill is not 100% human.
1. During the first scene, his mother refers to his father as "an angel made of light" or something thereabouts. Shortly afterwards, Quill is abducted by a space ship.
2. Yondu and the Ravagers mention several times that Quill was supposed to be delivered to his father. Presumably, a human being is not hiring space aliens from another part of the galaxy to retrieve his son from his own planet.
Just those two things are pretty solid hints that Quill is not 100% human.
As to Ronan and the ship
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He has the power of an Infinity Stone when he gets hit by Rocket's ship. Him surviving is hardly unusual. It isn't until Rocket and Drax destroy the hammer holding the Infinity Stone that Ronan returns to being mortal.
The problem with the ship part for a lot of people I've talked to wasn't Ronan surviving, it was Drax. Unless we all collectively missed him being thrown out of the way.
Ronan wasn't using Kree. He had an army of Sakaarans using what was presumably Sakaaran technology. We only saw two other Kree in this film (from what we know), Korath and the disinterested Kree who told Nova Prime that Ronan wasn't their problem.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Ronan wasn't using Kree. He had an army of Sakaarans using what was presumably Sakaaran technology. We only saw two other Kree in this film (from what we know), Korath and the disinterested Kree who told Nova Prime that Ronan wasn't their problem.
Oh, must have missed that detail somehow when I watched it. That explains a lot, thanks for the clarification. So far the sci-fi baddies really like using mercenaries though eh? First the Chitauri from Thanos/Loki, now Sakaarans from Ronan? What's Ultron going to use? A hired army of technicians or R2-D2's?
trexmeyer wrote: Are you kidding me? The 5th Element was a much better film
I went in expecting Guardians to be a comedy. It is absolutely fine when it is a comedy. However, that doesn't excuse poor writing, poor acting, and instances of embarrassing dialogue. I've also noticed that people suck down absolute crap as if it some great work of art so it is no surprise to me that a film that is actually good is being praised as "perfect" or "the best ever."
Considering 99.9999999% disagree with this assessment, we know the problem is you, not them.
Also GOTG took 94 million opening weekend (NA), only one million behind winter soldier.
Ultron was made by Tony, and it blew up in his face ( I believe).
Ultron was created by Hank Pym. Hank (Ant-Man) and Wasp were two of the original Avengers who have been left out of the film. I belive the upcoming Ant-Man movie is based more on the pervy Shield agent that stole Hank's original helmet.
trexmeyer wrote: Are you kidding me? The 5th Element was a much better film
I went in expecting Guardians to be a comedy. It is absolutely fine when it is a comedy. However, that doesn't excuse poor writing, poor acting, and instances of embarrassing dialogue. I've also noticed that people suck down absolute crap as if it some great work of art so it is no surprise to me that a film that is actually good is being praised as "perfect" or "the best ever."
Considering 99.9999999% disagree with this assessment, we know the problem is you, not them.
Also GOTG took 94 million opening weekend (NA), only one million behind winter soldier.
Sorry DC
Strong exaggeration. Even in this thread other people are acknowledging it has flaws. I know it's a shock, but a movie can have flaws and still be good. [Redacted by Moderator.]
cincydooley wrote: Not that strong an exaggeration. It's got a 93% on rotten tomatoes and is only getting poor reviews from the pretentious douchebag reviewer crowd.
I didn't even give it a poor review. I said the film had problems and aspects I disliked, but it was still one of the better Marvel films. Are we living in an era where you can critique anything without being a hater?
cincydooley wrote: Not that strong an exaggeration. It's got a 93% on rotten tomatoes and is only getting poor reviews from the pretentious douchebag reviewer crowd.
cincydooley wrote: Not that strong an exaggeration. It's got a 93% on rotten tomatoes and is only getting poor reviews from the pretentious douchebag reviewer crowd.
I didn't even give it a poor review. I said the film had problems and aspects I disliked, but it was still one of the better Marvel films. Are we living in an era where you can critique anything without being a hater?
Oh my bad. I wasn't calling you a hater.
I think I went in with the appropriate expectations having read some of the source, and as such was pretty pleased overall.
But then again I'm not one that gets too sciencey on a movie that invoked an anthropomorphic talking raccoon and a tree man.
You need to remember:
The Comic Universe is not the Television Universe it not the Movie Universe is not the Television Universe is not the Comic Universe. Even the Comic Universe is not the same as the Comic Universe.
With the expiation of Agents of Shield and the Avenger's Universe
You can even say that X-Men, Fantastic 4 and Spiderman are not part of the Avenger's Universe doe to the Marvel Studios/Sony thing going on.
Saw it, liked it though I think Cap2 and Days of Future Past are still a bit better. I was surprised how much stuff from the comic was actually I there. Cosmo, Knowhere, Xandar etc. I'm happy they found a way to get that stuff in. Even the Novacorps albeit a weird version of it. They were more like a normal military. I wonder if the the sequel or other movies will introduce the superhero type Novas because of the events of this film. They could say they needed to switch tactics because their entire military was destroyed.
trexmeyer wrote: Are you kidding me? The 5th Element was a much better film
I went in expecting Guardians to be a comedy. It is absolutely fine when it is a comedy. However, that doesn't excuse poor writing, poor acting, and instances of embarrassing dialogue. I've also noticed that people suck down absolute crap as if it some great work of art so it is no surprise to me that a film that is actually good is being praised as "perfect" or "the best ever."
Considering 99.9999999% disagree with this assessment, we know the problem is you, not them.
Also GOTG took 94 million opening weekend (NA), only one million behind winter soldier.
Sorry DC
Strong exaggeration. Even in this thread other people are acknowledging it has flaws. I know it's a shock, but a movie can have flaws and still be good. Be a prick elsewhere.
I'm pretty sure calling me a prick could of been left out of this sentence, when you resort to name calling you lose.
I was thinking about picking one up today, and just wanted to know how closely the movie followed the comics (As per Characterization, less about actual story).
I was thinking about picking one up today, and just wanted to know how closely the movie followed the comics (As per Characterization, less about actual story).
I think they have the characters right except Gamora who is basically a lot more mean and powerful. That would be one complaint I have. Gamora and Drax have super strength and are on a whole other power level from the rest of them. Gamora once had all her flesh burnt off her body because she was exposed to a star and was mostly ok. She would never be afraid of someone simply pointing a gun at her. They really depowered her. Also, this team is more like an abbreviated team. There have been a lot more members in the past but they sort of just took the main ones. Although currently they are only using the movie cast right now.
hotsauceman1 wrote: Why Vin Diesal as Groot though when most of the acting cme from body language?
He motion captured the character as well.
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KamikazeCanuck wrote: I think they have the characters right except Gamora who is basically a lot more mean and powerful. That would be one complaint I have. Gamora and Drax have super strength and are on a whole other power level from the rest of them. Gamora once had all her flesh burnt off her body because she was exposed to a star and was mostly ok. She would never be afraid of someone simply pointing a gun at her. They really depowered her. Also, this team is more like an abbreviated team. There have been a lot more members in the past but they sort of just took the main ones. Although currently they are only using the movie cast right now.
I'm actually okay with characters being depowererd compared to their comic book counterparts. The rising power creep of modern comics is one the main things that turns me off about them.
hotsauceman1 wrote: Why Vin Diesal as Groot though when most of the acting cme from body language?
He motion captured the character as well.
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KamikazeCanuck wrote: I think they have the characters right except Gamora who is basically a lot more mean and powerful. That would be one complaint I have. Gamora and Drax have super strength and are on a whole other power level from the rest of them. Gamora once had all her flesh burnt off her body because she was exposed to a star and was mostly ok. She would never be afraid of someone simply pointing a gun at her. They really depowered her. Also, this team is more like an abbreviated team. There have been a lot more members in the past but they sort of just took the main ones. Although currently they are only using the movie cast right now.
I'm actually okay with characters being depowererd compared to their comic book counterparts. The rising power creep of modern comics is one the main things that turns me off about them.
True, but I think Gamora should be at the very least super strong. Even in the movie she's supposed to be some kind of Thanos superweapon but she just seems to be a green chick.
hotsauceman1 wrote: Why Vin Diesal as Groot though when most of the acting cme from body language?
He motion captured the character as well.
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KamikazeCanuck wrote: I think they have the characters right except Gamora who is basically a lot more mean and powerful. That would be one complaint I have. Gamora and Drax have super strength and are on a whole other power level from the rest of them. Gamora once had all her flesh burnt off her body because she was exposed to a star and was mostly ok. She would never be afraid of someone simply pointing a gun at her. They really depowered her. Also, this team is more like an abbreviated team. There have been a lot more members in the past but they sort of just took the main ones. Although currently they are only using the movie cast right now.
I'm actually okay with characters being depowererd compared to their comic book counterparts. The rising power creep of modern comics is one the main things that turns me off about them.
Yeah, Like Wolverine being able to regen after being killed
If your heros can invulnerable to everything, you loose alot of what makes a good story, Tension. Yes we know they will win, but we need vulnerabilities to make it seem like they wont.
hotsauceman1 wrote: Why Vin Diesal as Groot though when most of the acting cme from body language?
Same reason he voiced the iron giant.
I guess i dont get getting celebritys to voice things when they are not recognizable?
Huh? So should Ellen degenerous not voice dory? Or should Bradley cooper not have voiced rocket? Or Cumberbatch not voice Smaug? Or am I confusing your point?
ScootyPuffJunior wrote: I'm actually okay with characters being depowererd compared to their comic book counterparts. The rising power creep of modern comics is one the main things that turns me off about them.
Agreed, as some characters, IMO simply don't work on screen the same way as they do in the comics.. Scarlet Witch being the biggest example off the top of my head.
I was thinking about picking one up today, and just wanted to know how closely the movie followed the comics (As per Characterization, less about actual story).
I think they have the characters right except Gamora who is basically a lot more mean and powerful. That would be one complaint I have. Gamora and Drax have super strength and are on a whole other power level from the rest of them. Gamora once had all her flesh burnt off her body because she was exposed to a star and was mostly ok. She would never be afraid of someone simply pointing a gun at her. They really depowered her. Also, this team is more like an abbreviated team. There have been a lot more members in the past but they sort of just took the main ones. Although currently they are only using the movie cast right now.
But Drax is still "Everything is Literal", right? Stuff along those lines.
I was thinking about picking one up today, and just wanted to know how closely the movie followed the comics (As per Characterization, less about actual story).
I think they have the characters right except Gamora who is basically a lot more mean and powerful. That would be one complaint I have. Gamora and Drax have super strength and are on a whole other power level from the rest of them. Gamora once had all her flesh burnt off her body because she was exposed to a star and was mostly ok. She would never be afraid of someone simply pointing a gun at her. They really depowered her. Also, this team is more like an abbreviated team. There have been a lot more members in the past but they sort of just took the main ones. Although currently they are only using the movie cast right now.
But Drax is still "Everything is Literal", right? Stuff along those lines.
Don't recall him having that trait. I think the movie kind of made him more interesting and also Groot is cooler in the movie too surprisingly. He's like the opposite of Gamora and actually got up-powered.
This. Totally this. I just want to have a good time sometimes. I saw this and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes in the same weekend. Honestly the best weekend of movies I've seen in a long, long, long, long (you get the point) time. Especially since this has been a pretty bad year movie wise to me.
Hulksmash wrote: Especially since this has been a pretty bad year movie wise to me.
You must see more movies than I do, because thus far, it's been a pretty damn good year for movies. Then again, I've only seen CA: Winter Soldier, Draft Day, Godzilla, and X-Men: Days of Future Past in theaters this year
Winter Soldier was excellent. Days of Future Past was solid. Not spectacular to me but good. I just haven't had stuff coming out in theatres that screams see me in theatres or I'm so good you don't want to wait 6-8 months for me to rent.
Hulksmash wrote: Winter Soldier was excellent. Days of Future Past was solid. Not spectacular to me but good. I just haven't had stuff coming out in theatres that screams see me in theatres or I'm so good you don't want to wait 6-8 months for me to rent.
That's mostly what I meant with that
OK - haven't seen GofG yet but I have to agree:
*Godzilla was decent but a disappointment.
*XMen was decent but I forgot about it right after.
*Legos Ok that was a surprise bag of awesome, because EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!!!
*Anchorman II yea that was epic too. (and I was even sober for that one).
*300 was very disappointing.
Just saw it last night and I absolutely loved it. It was a movie that was just pure fun. That said, it was also a very well made movie with a lot of thought put into it and had some of the best world building since Firefly.
Drax was surprisingly funny. The whole cast did such a good job.
Easily in my top three summer movies.
Godzilla
Captain America
Guardians of the Galaxy
Runners up, X-Men, How to Train you Dragon 2, Maleficent
Was the Lego movie this year? In that case add it to my awesome list. That was great fun too.
The wife and I tend to go to the movies every weekend or every other weekend. But we've found weeks at a time where we didn't go to the theatre for lack of anything that was worth the cost of entry.
I just hadn't felt that happy or excited leaving a theatre in a while. I loved Cap 2 and it was great but it didn't leave me feeling so danged upbeat. But I think that's more the material in general (rogue-ish adventure film vs. spy/espionage film) since I rate Cap 2 and this equally. Both actually better than Avengers to me honestly which is a close 3rd with the original Iron Man in 4th.
Hulksmash wrote: Especially since this has been a pretty bad year movie wise to me.
You must see more movies than I do, because thus far, it's been a pretty damn good year for movies. Then again, I've only seen CA: Winter Soldier, Draft Day, Godzilla, and X-Men: Days of Future Past in theaters this year
Ferrae is technically correct(the best kind of correct!). This has been the worst year with regards to movie profits and attendance in 8 years according to the people who keep track of that sort of thing.
Starlord: And so was a new generation of disruptive RPG characters born for high school GMs everywhere.
Gamora: Hello there female Stock Character #4. I could have sworn I saw you in another multi-hero marvel movie. Are you sure you've always been green?
Rocket: What do you know, the talking CGI Racoon worked. I would have lost that bet.
Groot: OP melon-fether. Can't complain if you're playing support.
Drax: Sorry bro, doesn't look like there was a movie enough movie left for you. Hey, you've got two knives though.
Ronin: Wait.. what's your motivation again? I think I remember like one line about a war or something.. are you just being a jerk to be a jerk?
Blue Redneck: I would've rather seen you as the villain, nice arrow bro.
Thanos: Wow.. like your CG is really unconvincing next to the tree and toy pusher.
Overall, I liked it. As substantial as fruit fly's fart, but whatever it was fun and functional and I got few laughs. B/B+ish.
Ronin was basically trying to destroy the peace between the Skree (?) and everyone else. They constantly said that he was a fanatic to the old ways in the film, and that the older Skree would never have submitted to a treaty.
He was basically a religious fanatic whose people disowned him but they weren't going to do anything bout him.
The only complaint I had about the movie was the Nova Corp Net...that really hurt my brain. Everything else was pretty flippin' awesome if you ask me. I'll actually be seeing it again this weekend.
The only real problem I had with this otherwise awesome movie is:
Spoiler:
Like most space movies, the Capitol Planet has absolutely no space-borne defenses.
Wait.....the Nova Corps let a bunch of space pirates begin the fight over their own city, and then decided to join in later? You kinda lost some face with that move, Space Cops. Also.....Ronan wanted to get to the surface. All the good guys knew this. And they decided the best way to stop him was to shoot down his ship on the planet he wanted to destroy?
I know the main plot was for them to kill him on the command bridge, but can't you do that in space, away from any threat of him getting to the planet? It seems like everything about the fight at the end was a deus ex machina to get Ronan to the surface in the final scene.
AegisGrimm wrote: The only real problem I had with this otherwise awesome movie is:
Spoiler:
Like most space movies, the Capitol Planet has absolutely no space-borne defenses.
Wait.....the Nova Corps let a bunch of space pirates begin the fight over their own city, and then decided to join in later? You kinda lost some face with that move, Space Cops. Also.....Ronan wanted to get to the surface. All the good guys knew this. And they decided the best way to stop him was to shoot down his ship on the planet he wanted to destroy?
I know the main plot was for them to kill him on the command bridge, but can't you do that in space, away from any threat of him getting to the planet? It seems like everything about the fight at the end was a deus ex machina to get Ronan to the surface in the final scene.
Spoiler:
The goal was to kill Ronan on the ship not take down the ship, the ship came down after Rocket rammed the bridge. Nova Corp is Space Cops, why would they have huge defeneses on a peaceful planet. by the time Ronan was at Xandar it was already to late to take the fight to space.
Blue Redneck: I would've rather seen you as the villain, nice arrow bro.
Too many people would have complained if he was the villain.
See the blue guy with the bow and red head-sail? That's comic-verse Yondu, he's a founding member of the Guardians. Unlike Gamora and Drax, he didn't start as a villain, either.
That movie was just pure enjoyment for me. It makes me want to start reading comics properly, something Avengers and all the other movies haven't managed (although Cap 1 and 2 came close).
So on that note, off to the comic book thread I go.
This origin was later retconned and the astrological phenomena and murderous not-father were removed. Instead, J'son of Spartax - an alien with a human appearance - crashes on Earth and strikes up a relationship with Meredith. A short time later, he leaves Meredith pregnant with his child and with his gun for safekeeping. Ten years later, Meredith is killed by members of the alien race known as the Badoon. Peter kills both assassins with a single shotgun blast, then finds the alien gun in his mother's closet. Realizing that the alien ship is about to attack, Peter gets out of the house just before it is destroyed. Believing that they have killed their target, the alien ship leaves. After being found by the authorities, who believe the Quill house was destroyed by a gas leak explosion, Peter is taken to a hospital where a nurse brings him the only thing that survived the explosion, his "space toy", which is J'son's gun.[9]
The character encounters the former Herald of Galactus the Fallen One and is almost killed defeating the entity, and in addition Star-Lord's vessel "Ship" is destroyed in the conflict. The pair are subsequently imprisoned in the intergalactic prison the Kyln.[10] Star-Lord is freed by the hero Nova during the "Annihilation War" storyline and aids in the war against villain Annihilus.[11] Quill later acts as military adviser to the Kree general Ronan the Accuser.
When the Kree homeworld of Hala is conquered by the Phalanx, Star-Lord leads a band of rebels against the invaders until the war is over.[12] In an effort to prevent another interstellar war, Star-Lord forms a new version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are "proactive" and try to end emerging galactic threats early.[13]
During the war with the Cancerverse, Star-Lord supposedly sacrifices his life to stop Thanos.[14] Despite this, he later reappears with a new Guardians line-up on Earth to aid the Avengers against the returned Thanos.[15] After this, Star-Lord and his new team of Guardians engage in conflicts with the Badoon.[16]
You can see why I don't like the original star lord as much.
This origin was later retconned and the astrological phenomena and murderous not-father were removed. Instead, J'son of Spartax - an alien with a human appearance - crashes on Earth and strikes up a relationship with Meredith. A short time later, he leaves Meredith pregnant with his child and with his gun for safekeeping. Ten years later, Meredith is killed by members of the alien race known as the Badoon. Peter kills both assassins with a single shotgun blast, then finds the alien gun in his mother's closet. Realizing that the alien ship is about to attack, Peter gets out of the house just before it is destroyed. Believing that they have killed their target, the alien ship leaves. After being found by the authorities, who believe the Quill house was destroyed by a gas leak explosion, Peter is taken to a hospital where a nurse brings him the only thing that survived the explosion, his "space toy", which is J'son's gun.[9]
The character encounters the former Herald of Galactus the Fallen One and is almost killed defeating the entity, and in addition Star-Lord's vessel "Ship" is destroyed in the conflict. The pair are subsequently imprisoned in the intergalactic prison the Kyln.[10] Star-Lord is freed by the hero Nova during the "Annihilation War" storyline and aids in the war against villain Annihilus.[11] Quill later acts as military adviser to the Kree general Ronan the Accuser.
When the Kree homeworld of Hala is conquered by the Phalanx, Star-Lord leads a band of rebels against the invaders until the war is over.[12] In an effort to prevent another interstellar war, Star-Lord forms a new version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are "proactive" and try to end emerging galactic threats early.[13]
During the war with the Cancerverse, Star-Lord supposedly sacrifices his life to stop Thanos.[14] Despite this, he later reappears with a new Guardians line-up on Earth to aid the Avengers against the returned Thanos.[15] After this, Star-Lord and his new team of Guardians engage in conflicts with the Badoon.[16]
You can see why I don't like the original star lord as much.
I couldn't agree more.
This Star-Lord's origin is much better than his comic counterpart. It makes sense that they did it this way because I think the movie version of the character is more sympathetic.
I saw it opening day and I took my nephew to see it last Thursday... I might even squeeze in another viewing as well.
My Fiancee and I really liked this movie. I usually dislike 99% of movies I watch, but for some reason I really enjoyed this!
The characters where great. Humour was funny! (important that was), the action wasnt too bad either, wasnt too much and a surprising number of fights where avoided by simply talking.
The only thing that annoyed me, was how ill prepared the Nova place was for an attack. Considering they are the heart of law and order and so on, they lacked a lot of life saving drills and defenses!
Other than that I dont have many complaints (pretty rare). Look forward to seeing more.
Swastakowey wrote: My Fiancee and I really liked this movie. I usually dislike 99% of movies I watch, but for some reason I really enjoyed this!
The characters where great. Humour was funny! (important that was), the action wasnt too bad either, wasnt too much and a surprising number of fights where avoided by simply talking.
The only thing that annoyed me, was how ill prepared the Nova place was for an attack. Considering they are the heart of law and order and so on, they lacked a lot of life saving drills and defenses!
Other than that I dont have many complaints (pretty rare). Look forward to seeing more.
My one question is why does everyone look humanoid?
I mean its a blockbuster. By head bumps or something.
My one question is why does everyone look humanoid?
Because they look like that in the comics.
The aliens as well?
Lame :/
Yes. Yondu and the Sakaraans were the largest deviations, every other species present is an exact or near exact replication of their appearance as seen in the Universe 616 comics.
I would have liked to have seen some non-Xandarian Nova Corps members, but I guess they haven't opened it up to other species at this point in movie-verse.
This origin was later retconned and the astrological phenomena and murderous not-father were removed. Instead, J'son of Spartax - an alien with a human appearance - crashes on Earth and strikes up a relationship with Meredith. A short time later, he leaves Meredith pregnant with his child and with his gun for safekeeping. Ten years later, Meredith is killed by members of the alien race known as the Badoon. Peter kills both assassins with a single shotgun blast, then finds the alien gun in his mother's closet. Realizing that the alien ship is about to attack, Peter gets out of the house just before it is destroyed. Believing that they have killed their target, the alien ship leaves. After being found by the authorities, who believe the Quill house was destroyed by a gas leak explosion, Peter is taken to a hospital where a nurse brings him the only thing that survived the explosion, his "space toy", which is J'son's gun.[9]
The character encounters the former Herald of Galactus the Fallen One and is almost killed defeating the entity, and in addition Star-Lord's vessel "Ship" is destroyed in the conflict. The pair are subsequently imprisoned in the intergalactic prison the Kyln.[10] Star-Lord is freed by the hero Nova during the "Annihilation War" storyline and aids in the war against villain Annihilus.[11] Quill later acts as military adviser to the Kree general Ronan the Accuser.
When the Kree homeworld of Hala is conquered by the Phalanx, Star-Lord leads a band of rebels against the invaders until the war is over.[12] In an effort to prevent another interstellar war, Star-Lord forms a new version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are "proactive" and try to end emerging galactic threats early.[13]
During the war with the Cancerverse, Star-Lord supposedly sacrifices his life to stop Thanos.[14] Despite this, he later reappears with a new Guardians line-up on Earth to aid the Avengers against the returned Thanos.[15] After this, Star-Lord and his new team of Guardians engage in conflicts with the Badoon.[16]
You can see why I don't like the original star lord as much.
So he was basically a bad guy turned good guy instead of rogue turned goodish guy? Ronin is still kind of a dick in the comics, ain't he?
Platuan4th wrote: I would have liked to have seen some non-Xandarian Nova Corps members, but I guess they haven't opened it up to other species at this point in movie-verse.
Well they probably are after that whole losing the fleet thing.
This origin was later retconned and the astrological phenomena and murderous not-father were removed. Instead, J'son of Spartax - an alien with a human appearance - crashes on Earth and strikes up a relationship with Meredith. A short time later, he leaves Meredith pregnant with his child and with his gun for safekeeping. Ten years later, Meredith is killed by members of the alien race known as the Badoon. Peter kills both assassins with a single shotgun blast, then finds the alien gun in his mother's closet. Realizing that the alien ship is about to attack, Peter gets out of the house just before it is destroyed. Believing that they have killed their target, the alien ship leaves. After being found by the authorities, who believe the Quill house was destroyed by a gas leak explosion, Peter is taken to a hospital where a nurse brings him the only thing that survived the explosion, his "space toy", which is J'son's gun.[9]
The character encounters the former Herald of Galactus the Fallen One and is almost killed defeating the entity, and in addition Star-Lord's vessel "Ship" is destroyed in the conflict. The pair are subsequently imprisoned in the intergalactic prison the Kyln.[10] Star-Lord is freed by the hero Nova during the "Annihilation War" storyline and aids in the war against villain Annihilus.[11] Quill later acts as military adviser to the Kree general Ronan the Accuser.
When the Kree homeworld of Hala is conquered by the Phalanx, Star-Lord leads a band of rebels against the invaders until the war is over.[12] In an effort to prevent another interstellar war, Star-Lord forms a new version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are "proactive" and try to end emerging galactic threats early.[13]
During the war with the Cancerverse, Star-Lord supposedly sacrifices his life to stop Thanos.[14] Despite this, he later reappears with a new Guardians line-up on Earth to aid the Avengers against the returned Thanos.[15] After this, Star-Lord and his new team of Guardians engage in conflicts with the Badoon.[16]
You can see why I don't like the original star lord as much.
So he was basically a bad guy turned good guy instead of rogue turned goodish guy? Ronin is still kind of a dick in the comics, ain't he?
Slarg232 wrote: Ronin is still kind of a dick in the comics, ain't he?
Nope. Ronan mellowed out after becoming the leader of the Kree Empire and marrying Crystal the Inhuman in an arranged alliance marriage.
He's currently a member of the Annihilators(a team dedicated to preventing galactic wars) alongside Silver Surfer, Quasar, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Ikon the Spaceknight, and Cosmo the Spacedog due to his actions during the war with the cancerverse.
Slarg232 wrote: Ronin is still kind of a dick in the comics, ain't he?
Nope. Ronan mellowed out after becoming the leader of the Kree Empire and marrying Crystal the Inhuman in an arranged alliance marriage.
He's currently a member of the Annihilators(a team dedicated to preventing galactic wars) alongside Silver Surfer, Quasar, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Ikon the Spaceknight, and Cosmo the Spacedog due to his actions during the war with the cancerverse.
I find that's how most plans to take over the galaxy go. You build a couple of doomsday devices, threaten a few galactic governments, find a woman (Or man, if you prefer), and decide it's just seriously not worth it.
KalashnikovMarine wrote:Didn't Star Lord work for Ronan at one point?
Yes.
Frazzled wrote:Cosmo the Dog?
The Cosmonaut dog. He's in the movie(the dog in the Collector's collection). In the comics, he's a space hero. He has Telepathy and Telekinesis powers and was the Security Chief of Knowhere for a while.
KalashnikovMarine wrote:Didn't Star Lord work for Ronan at one point?
Yes.
Frazzled wrote:Cosmo the Dog?
The Cosmonaut dog. He's in the movie(the dog in the Collector's collection). In the comics, he's a space hero. He has Telepathy and Telekinesis powers and was the Security Chief of Knowhere for a while.
Still is, I believe? I'm fairly sure he was in the recent Nova arc that he was involved with.
Finally saw it, and it was every bit as awesome as expected. Best starship battle since Endor, best use of music as a plot device since The Blues Brothers. Certainly the best sci-fi western space musical superhero movie I've ever seen. Absolutely brilliant, and I just can't see a flaw in it. On par with Avengers, Cap 2 and Thor 2.
Am I the only one who wasn't terribly impressed with Cap 2?
I mean, it was decent enough, but Guardians just blew me away. Funniest movie I've seen in a long time. Until I watched the Lego Movie on the plane to Angola anyway.
There has been a serious dearth of good, clean space opera both in theaters and on the TV recently, and this certainly blows the doors wide open for more of that stuff to be made.
Also, for some reason Star Lord/Chris Pratt reminded me of Crichton/Ben Browder in Farscape.
On another comic book movie note. Anyone seen the new Sin City yet? I sit good?
Guardians was slightly better, but Cap 2 hit all the right notes for me. Falcon, The Winter Soldier and the Cap-Widow dynamic were spot on, the plot was great and the action was very well done.
I do agree that Guardians was more Epic in a genre that had been lacking really, where Cap was a spy movie at heart, of which there are a lot these days.
Bran Dawri wrote: Am I the only one who wasn't terribly impressed with Cap 2?
I mean, it was decent enough, but Guardians just blew me away.
There has been a serious dearth of good, clean space opera both in theaters and on the TV recently, and this certainly blows the doors wide open for more of that stuff to be made.
Also, for some reason Star Lord/Chris Pratt reminded me of Crichton/Ben Browder in Farscape.
On another comic book movie note. Anyone seen the new Sin City yet? I sit good?
I was bored to pieces by Cap 2. I was half asleep during the big action climax. I probably couldn't recall half the plot if you asked me. I've found I'm in the minority on it like you have, all but 1 of my friends loved it.
Bran Dawri wrote: Am I the only one who wasn't terribly impressed with Cap 2?
I mean, it was decent enough, but Guardians just blew me away.
There has been a serious dearth of good, clean space opera both in theaters and on the TV recently, and this certainly blows the doors wide open for more of that stuff to be made.
Also, for some reason Star Lord/Chris Pratt reminded me of Crichton/Ben Browder in Farscape.
On another comic book movie note. Anyone seen the new Sin City yet? I sit good?
I was bored to pieces by Cap 2. I was half asleep during the big action climax. I've found I'm very much in the minority on that one too with my friends.
Cap1 bored me so terribly I'd rather have gone to the dentist then see Cap2.
Bran Dawri wrote: Am I the only one who wasn't terribly impressed with Cap 2?
I mean, it was decent enough, but Guardians just blew me away.
There has been a serious dearth of good, clean space opera both in theaters and on the TV recently, and this certainly blows the doors wide open for more of that stuff to be made.
Also, for some reason Star Lord/Chris Pratt reminded me of Crichton/Ben Browder in Farscape.
On another comic book movie note. Anyone seen the new Sin City yet? I sit good?
I was bored to pieces by Cap 2. I was half asleep during the big action climax. I've found I'm very much in the minority on that one too with my friends.
Cap1 bored me so terribly I'd rather have gone to the dentist then see Cap2.
Sin City reviews are pretty bad.
I actually liked Captain 1. Captain 2 is a very different movie, with a different tone, different themes, different pacing, different setting. If you didn't like Cap 1, Cap 2 might actually be closer to your kind of thing.
Nothing about Sin City appeals to me. I watched parts of the first one and what I caught was just pile of nasty for the sake of being nasty, nothing of substance or merit to be found. From what I've heard its creator is a pretty awful person in general so I wouldn't expect much from anything that has his name attached.
Slarg232 wrote: Isn't Cap 1 supposed to be a War Movie, while Cap 2 is more of a Spy Thriller?
I'd say Cap 1 is a "Longest Day" or "Heartbreak Ridge" type movie, but a little slower for a modern movie, because they are setting up the Cap character. Cap 2 is a nice combo of Jason Bourne and Die Hard
There are only a few things that I would have liked to see done a little differently.
Drax the Destroyer, in the comics, is much more of a badass than the movie version.
I mean, Ronan completely wiped the floor with him.. Really? I get that they needed to show Ronan as a formidable villain....but Drax is supposed to be a pretty formidable "hero" as well and besides tearing through the underlings, Drax wasn't that strong of a fighter (no pun intended).
Frazzled wrote: The only one that seemed especially powerful was the walking tree actually. The guy with arrow would have murderized all of them pretty easily.
I think that's the point; they were mostly just people who had to make due in the situations they were in (Also note how they talked their way out of most situations instead of just shooting).
My honest complaint was that Groot is TOO powerful.
Groot certainly got a power up, but the portrayal was so great I can easily forgive them. Drax and Gamora were both toned down a lot, probably so the non-superpowered Starlord fitted in a bit better.
It's the same issue DC will face with Batman alongside Supes, Wonder Woman and Aquaman, and eventually Lantern, I assume. All of them are league above him in the power stakes, and it'll be interesting (one way or another) to see how they handle it. They have to do something, as otherwise the titular Batman vs Superman fight will last all of, well, as long as it takes for Supes to swing a punch. The videogame Injustice did a good job with evening the power stakes, I wonder if the SvB film can do the same.
Heading a bit off topic, however I can see Kryptonite being introduced to Batman V Superman *by* Batman as a means of evening the odds... - Which may very well, go quite wrong once Lex gets a hand of it, Bats finds out Supes hasn't got some secret plan, they join up together against Lex, day is saved.
Although, I liked my original theory of the film, before they revealed the 'Dark Knight Returns' basis which had more Bruce Wayne Vs Lex Luthor competing to for the contract to rebuild Metropolis. Batman is doing detective work as something seems 'off' about Luthor, as is Clark Kent. Bats comes across Kent, Kent thinks Bats is a bad guy. Superman goes against Bats.
Compel wrote: Heading a bit off topic, however I can see Kryptonite being introduced to Batman V Superman *by* Batman as a means of evening the odds...
Paradigm wrote: Groot certainly got a power up, but the portrayal was so great I can easily forgive them. Drax and Gamora were both toned down a lot, probably so the non-superpowered Starlord fitted in a bit better.
It's the same issue DC will face with Batman alongside Supes, Wonder Woman and Aquaman, and eventually Lantern, I assume. All of them are league above him in the power stakes, and it'll be interesting (one way or another) to see how they handle it. They have to do something, as otherwise the titular Batman vs Superman fight will last all of, well, as long as it takes for Supes to swing a punch. The videogame Injustice did a good job with evening the power stakes, I wonder if the SvB film can do the same.
Well, Whedon found a way to keep Widow, Cap, and Hawkeye occupied while the heavy hitters...hit...heavily? And the JL comics have dealt with this for years. In the JL movie, Batman will just do his usual JL thing, which is be the brains of the operation and handle any sneaky stuff that needs to be done.
As for BvS, it's pretty obvious by now that the actual fight will take a lot of cues from their tussle in TDKR.
True, I'm not at all saying it can't be done, and I look forward to seeing how it's handled. Assuming they can keep the quality level of Man of Steel, in terms of writing and visuals, I'll be happy.
That would be nice. I have doubts though. We'll see. I originally thought MOS would be stupid and haven't liked a comic film like that since The Dark Knight.
, One of the most awesome parts of the movie for me was 
