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2014/08/07 08:23:05
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
The only complaint I had about the movie was the Nova Corp Net...that really hurt my brain. Everything else was pretty flippin' awesome if you ask me. I'll actually be seeing it again this weekend.
The only real problem I had with this otherwise awesome movie is:
Spoiler:
Like most space movies, the Capitol Planet has absolutely no space-borne defenses.
Wait.....the Nova Corps let a bunch of space pirates begin the fight over their own city, and then decided to join in later? You kinda lost some face with that move, Space Cops. Also.....Ronan wanted to get to the surface. All the good guys knew this. And they decided the best way to stop him was to shoot down his ship on the planet he wanted to destroy?
I know the main plot was for them to kill him on the command bridge, but can't you do that in space, away from any threat of him getting to the planet? It seems like everything about the fight at the end was a deus ex machina to get Ronan to the surface in the final scene.
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2014/08/08 13:20:29
Subject: Re:Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
AegisGrimm wrote: The only real problem I had with this otherwise awesome movie is:
Spoiler:
Like most space movies, the Capitol Planet has absolutely no space-borne defenses.
Wait.....the Nova Corps let a bunch of space pirates begin the fight over their own city, and then decided to join in later? You kinda lost some face with that move, Space Cops. Also.....Ronan wanted to get to the surface. All the good guys knew this. And they decided the best way to stop him was to shoot down his ship on the planet he wanted to destroy?
I know the main plot was for them to kill him on the command bridge, but can't you do that in space, away from any threat of him getting to the planet? It seems like everything about the fight at the end was a deus ex machina to get Ronan to the surface in the final scene.
Spoiler:
The goal was to kill Ronan on the ship not take down the ship, the ship came down after Rocket rammed the bridge. Nova Corp is Space Cops, why would they have huge defeneses on a peaceful planet. by the time Ronan was at Xandar it was already to late to take the fight to space.
Blue Redneck: I would've rather seen you as the villain, nice arrow bro.
Too many people would have complained if he was the villain.
See the blue guy with the bow and red head-sail? That's comic-verse Yondu, he's a founding member of the Guardians. Unlike Gamora and Drax, he didn't start as a villain, either.
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2014/08/08 17:42:25
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
That movie was just pure enjoyment for me. It makes me want to start reading comics properly, something Avengers and all the other movies haven't managed (although Cap 1 and 2 came close).
So on that note, off to the comic book thread I go.
I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
2014/08/10 13:08:36
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
This origin was later retconned and the astrological phenomena and murderous not-father were removed. Instead, J'son of Spartax - an alien with a human appearance - crashes on Earth and strikes up a relationship with Meredith. A short time later, he leaves Meredith pregnant with his child and with his gun for safekeeping. Ten years later, Meredith is killed by members of the alien race known as the Badoon. Peter kills both assassins with a single shotgun blast, then finds the alien gun in his mother's closet. Realizing that the alien ship is about to attack, Peter gets out of the house just before it is destroyed. Believing that they have killed their target, the alien ship leaves. After being found by the authorities, who believe the Quill house was destroyed by a gas leak explosion, Peter is taken to a hospital where a nurse brings him the only thing that survived the explosion, his "space toy", which is J'son's gun.[9]
The character encounters the former Herald of Galactus the Fallen One and is almost killed defeating the entity, and in addition Star-Lord's vessel "Ship" is destroyed in the conflict. The pair are subsequently imprisoned in the intergalactic prison the Kyln.[10] Star-Lord is freed by the hero Nova during the "Annihilation War" storyline and aids in the war against villain Annihilus.[11] Quill later acts as military adviser to the Kree general Ronan the Accuser.
When the Kree homeworld of Hala is conquered by the Phalanx, Star-Lord leads a band of rebels against the invaders until the war is over.[12] In an effort to prevent another interstellar war, Star-Lord forms a new version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are "proactive" and try to end emerging galactic threats early.[13]
During the war with the Cancerverse, Star-Lord supposedly sacrifices his life to stop Thanos.[14] Despite this, he later reappears with a new Guardians line-up on Earth to aid the Avengers against the returned Thanos.[15] After this, Star-Lord and his new team of Guardians engage in conflicts with the Badoon.[16]
You can see why I don't like the original star lord as much.
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2014/08/10 13:39:02
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
This origin was later retconned and the astrological phenomena and murderous not-father were removed. Instead, J'son of Spartax - an alien with a human appearance - crashes on Earth and strikes up a relationship with Meredith. A short time later, he leaves Meredith pregnant with his child and with his gun for safekeeping. Ten years later, Meredith is killed by members of the alien race known as the Badoon. Peter kills both assassins with a single shotgun blast, then finds the alien gun in his mother's closet. Realizing that the alien ship is about to attack, Peter gets out of the house just before it is destroyed. Believing that they have killed their target, the alien ship leaves. After being found by the authorities, who believe the Quill house was destroyed by a gas leak explosion, Peter is taken to a hospital where a nurse brings him the only thing that survived the explosion, his "space toy", which is J'son's gun.[9]
The character encounters the former Herald of Galactus the Fallen One and is almost killed defeating the entity, and in addition Star-Lord's vessel "Ship" is destroyed in the conflict. The pair are subsequently imprisoned in the intergalactic prison the Kyln.[10] Star-Lord is freed by the hero Nova during the "Annihilation War" storyline and aids in the war against villain Annihilus.[11] Quill later acts as military adviser to the Kree general Ronan the Accuser.
When the Kree homeworld of Hala is conquered by the Phalanx, Star-Lord leads a band of rebels against the invaders until the war is over.[12] In an effort to prevent another interstellar war, Star-Lord forms a new version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are "proactive" and try to end emerging galactic threats early.[13]
During the war with the Cancerverse, Star-Lord supposedly sacrifices his life to stop Thanos.[14] Despite this, he later reappears with a new Guardians line-up on Earth to aid the Avengers against the returned Thanos.[15] After this, Star-Lord and his new team of Guardians engage in conflicts with the Badoon.[16]
You can see why I don't like the original star lord as much.
I couldn't agree more.
This Star-Lord's origin is much better than his comic counterpart. It makes sense that they did it this way because I think the movie version of the character is more sympathetic.
I saw it opening day and I took my nephew to see it last Thursday... I might even squeeze in another viewing as well.
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2014/08/10 20:50:46
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
My Fiancee and I really liked this movie. I usually dislike 99% of movies I watch, but for some reason I really enjoyed this!
The characters where great. Humour was funny! (important that was), the action wasnt too bad either, wasnt too much and a surprising number of fights where avoided by simply talking.
The only thing that annoyed me, was how ill prepared the Nova place was for an attack. Considering they are the heart of law and order and so on, they lacked a lot of life saving drills and defenses!
Other than that I dont have many complaints (pretty rare). Look forward to seeing more.
2014/08/10 21:02:16
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
Swastakowey wrote: My Fiancee and I really liked this movie. I usually dislike 99% of movies I watch, but for some reason I really enjoyed this!
The characters where great. Humour was funny! (important that was), the action wasnt too bad either, wasnt too much and a surprising number of fights where avoided by simply talking.
The only thing that annoyed me, was how ill prepared the Nova place was for an attack. Considering they are the heart of law and order and so on, they lacked a lot of life saving drills and defenses!
Other than that I dont have many complaints (pretty rare). Look forward to seeing more.
My one question is why does everyone look humanoid?
I mean its a blockbuster. By head bumps or something.
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2014/08/10 21:08:09
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
My one question is why does everyone look humanoid?
Because they look like that in the comics.
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2014/08/10 21:34:01
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
My one question is why does everyone look humanoid?
Because they look like that in the comics.
The aliens as well?
Lame :/
Yes. Yondu and the Sakaraans were the largest deviations, every other species present is an exact or near exact replication of their appearance as seen in the Universe 616 comics.
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2014/08/10 21:54:07
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
I would have liked to have seen some non-Xandarian Nova Corps members, but I guess they haven't opened it up to other species at this point in movie-verse.
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Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
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2014/08/10 21:58:51
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
This origin was later retconned and the astrological phenomena and murderous not-father were removed. Instead, J'son of Spartax - an alien with a human appearance - crashes on Earth and strikes up a relationship with Meredith. A short time later, he leaves Meredith pregnant with his child and with his gun for safekeeping. Ten years later, Meredith is killed by members of the alien race known as the Badoon. Peter kills both assassins with a single shotgun blast, then finds the alien gun in his mother's closet. Realizing that the alien ship is about to attack, Peter gets out of the house just before it is destroyed. Believing that they have killed their target, the alien ship leaves. After being found by the authorities, who believe the Quill house was destroyed by a gas leak explosion, Peter is taken to a hospital where a nurse brings him the only thing that survived the explosion, his "space toy", which is J'son's gun.[9]
The character encounters the former Herald of Galactus the Fallen One and is almost killed defeating the entity, and in addition Star-Lord's vessel "Ship" is destroyed in the conflict. The pair are subsequently imprisoned in the intergalactic prison the Kyln.[10] Star-Lord is freed by the hero Nova during the "Annihilation War" storyline and aids in the war against villain Annihilus.[11] Quill later acts as military adviser to the Kree general Ronan the Accuser.
When the Kree homeworld of Hala is conquered by the Phalanx, Star-Lord leads a band of rebels against the invaders until the war is over.[12] In an effort to prevent another interstellar war, Star-Lord forms a new version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are "proactive" and try to end emerging galactic threats early.[13]
During the war with the Cancerverse, Star-Lord supposedly sacrifices his life to stop Thanos.[14] Despite this, he later reappears with a new Guardians line-up on Earth to aid the Avengers against the returned Thanos.[15] After this, Star-Lord and his new team of Guardians engage in conflicts with the Badoon.[16]
You can see why I don't like the original star lord as much.
So he was basically a bad guy turned good guy instead of rogue turned goodish guy? Ronin is still kind of a dick in the comics, ain't he?
Platuan4th wrote: I would have liked to have seen some non-Xandarian Nova Corps members, but I guess they haven't opened it up to other species at this point in movie-verse.
Well they probably are after that whole losing the fleet thing.
This origin was later retconned and the astrological phenomena and murderous not-father were removed. Instead, J'son of Spartax - an alien with a human appearance - crashes on Earth and strikes up a relationship with Meredith. A short time later, he leaves Meredith pregnant with his child and with his gun for safekeeping. Ten years later, Meredith is killed by members of the alien race known as the Badoon. Peter kills both assassins with a single shotgun blast, then finds the alien gun in his mother's closet. Realizing that the alien ship is about to attack, Peter gets out of the house just before it is destroyed. Believing that they have killed their target, the alien ship leaves. After being found by the authorities, who believe the Quill house was destroyed by a gas leak explosion, Peter is taken to a hospital where a nurse brings him the only thing that survived the explosion, his "space toy", which is J'son's gun.[9]
The character encounters the former Herald of Galactus the Fallen One and is almost killed defeating the entity, and in addition Star-Lord's vessel "Ship" is destroyed in the conflict. The pair are subsequently imprisoned in the intergalactic prison the Kyln.[10] Star-Lord is freed by the hero Nova during the "Annihilation War" storyline and aids in the war against villain Annihilus.[11] Quill later acts as military adviser to the Kree general Ronan the Accuser.
When the Kree homeworld of Hala is conquered by the Phalanx, Star-Lord leads a band of rebels against the invaders until the war is over.[12] In an effort to prevent another interstellar war, Star-Lord forms a new version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. They are "proactive" and try to end emerging galactic threats early.[13]
During the war with the Cancerverse, Star-Lord supposedly sacrifices his life to stop Thanos.[14] Despite this, he later reappears with a new Guardians line-up on Earth to aid the Avengers against the returned Thanos.[15] After this, Star-Lord and his new team of Guardians engage in conflicts with the Badoon.[16]
You can see why I don't like the original star lord as much.
So he was basically a bad guy turned good guy instead of rogue turned goodish guy? Ronin is still kind of a dick in the comics, ain't he?
Slarg232 wrote: Ronin is still kind of a dick in the comics, ain't he?
Nope. Ronan mellowed out after becoming the leader of the Kree Empire and marrying Crystal the Inhuman in an arranged alliance marriage.
He's currently a member of the Annihilators(a team dedicated to preventing galactic wars) alongside Silver Surfer, Quasar, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Ikon the Spaceknight, and Cosmo the Spacedog due to his actions during the war with the cancerverse.
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2014/08/10 22:03:52
Subject: Guardians of the Galaxy discussion (potential spoilers)
Slarg232 wrote: Ronin is still kind of a dick in the comics, ain't he?
Nope. Ronan mellowed out after becoming the leader of the Kree Empire and marrying Crystal the Inhuman in an arranged alliance marriage.
He's currently a member of the Annihilators(a team dedicated to preventing galactic wars) alongside Silver Surfer, Quasar, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Ikon the Spaceknight, and Cosmo the Spacedog due to his actions during the war with the cancerverse.
I find that's how most plans to take over the galaxy go. You build a couple of doomsday devices, threaten a few galactic governments, find a woman (Or man, if you prefer), and decide it's just seriously not worth it.
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