via Bird in the Trees

Deathwatch Kill Team Kit
Kit is built atop the Plastic Sternguard kit

SM-box-sternguard
Includes an additional Deathwatch sprue loaded with Killteam bits including:

– Over a dozen shoulderpads (Half Deathwatch logos, half various chapter logos)

– New Deathwatch heads

– Multiple Deathwatch equipment back/powerpacks

– Unique Killteam weapons (both shooting and assault)

– Deathwatch pouches, seals, etc, minor bits.

Current Sternguard Sprues:

Original rumors via 75hastings69 2-17-2015

Not MaybeDeathwatch
Genestealer Cult
via 75hastings69 5-1-2015

Anyone here remember the little guessing game we had about releases?Most of it can be found here…….So you’ll see in there the assassins game (correct)
HH Game (I guess time will tell )
… and amongst the other stuff….

G/S Cult Codex & Models (Harlequin sized release)
Deathwatch Codex & Models (Harlequin sized release)

….. well, I may have gotten myself a bit confused about what these actually were, it seems we “may” be seeing these two as a combined set in some fashion, whether that’s as another standalone game or as a “starter/campaign” set is yet unclear, although I’m going to assume that these would be unusual choices for a starter box.

I can certainly see the logic in combining the Deathwatch and Genestealer Cult into a single product – they are perfect adversaries. One a small elite force of hunters, the other a large rabble of decievers hiding in the shadows. The bigger questiosn is whether this would show up initially as one of the “Assassin-style” board games with attached 40K rules, or as part of “Shield of Baal”/ “Stormclaw” style campaign box.

Hmm, I hope we haven't shifted from campaign box releases to wildly overpriced board games.

I don't think the Assassins game would have been overpriced if it had included decent Chaos models rather than almost entirely snap-fit monopose garbage. Most of the GW boxed sets have been fairly decently priced. Space Hulk was a decent value with all the models included, for example.

The assassins game was just gak because less than half the models were desirable, and only if you were interested in all four of the assassins.

if it's an add on sprue to Sternies. That would be great.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
I don't think the Assassins game would have been overpriced if it had included decent Chaos models rather than almost entirely snap-fit monopose garbage. Most of the GW boxed sets have been fairly decently priced. Space Hulk was a decent value with all the models included, for example.

The assassins game was just gak because less than half the models were desirable, and only if you were interested in all four of the assassins.

The assassins game is a great deal if you want the 4 assassins -- you basically get the game, a very nice Chaos Lord, and some old, crappy (but still useful) models for free. It's a lousy deal if you don't want at least 3 of the assassins. The game board is decent.

But, keep in mind, a lot of people wanted at least 1 of each assassin.

I'll be interested to see a Deathwatch Sternguard kit released. I've already got around 20 or so Deathwatch minis assembled and more than half of them painted now. I hope to see a Harlequin-esque codex released with them to give the Deathwatch some unique rules & wargear options as well (Relics perhaps).

Time will tell, though I'm very interested to see what future rumors will be added leading up to a release soon.

Take it easy for now.

-Red__Thirst-

 Talys wrote:
if it's an add on sprue to Sternies. That would be great.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
I don't think the Assassins game would have been overpriced if it had included decent Chaos models rather than almost entirely snap-fit monopose garbage. Most of the GW boxed sets have been fairly decently priced. Space Hulk was a decent value with all the models included, for example.

The assassins game was just gak because less than half the models were desirable, and only if you were interested in all four of the assassins.

The assassins game is a great deal if you want the 4 assassins -- you basically get the game, a very nice Chaos Lord, and some old, crappy (but still useful) models for free. It's a lousy deal if you don't want at least 3 of the assassins. The game board is decent.

But, keep in mind, a lot of people wanted at least 1 of each assassin.

The assassins game is not a "great deal". Either that, or your definition of "great deal" is rather generous. It's basically the (already bloated) retail value of the assassin models, with some garbage Chaos Marines thrown in. If you're paying just to get the assassins, you've basically gotten nothing else valuable. Just because something costs money doesn't make it valuable, lol.

Deathstorm was a "great deal", lol. The retail value of the models in that set was over twice the cost of the set.

this makes me sad if they don't get their own dedicated dex =(

A decent release for the Genestealer Cult would go a long way to rekindling my interest in 40k. A campaign /starter akin to Death storm with new, good quality models Then codexes, other model releases, etc

This would be a great opportunity to do some fantastic standalone or conversion kits for the Hybrids.

Plus Death Watch are kind of cool.

 plastictrees wrote:
Hmm, I hope we haven't shifted from campaign box releases to wildly overpriced board games.

I hope you're right. I couldn't take Genestealer Cults and Deathwatch being reduced to a couple of models in a shoddy board game that no one wants.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
The assassins game is not a "great deal". Either that, or your definition of "great deal" is rather generous. It's basically the (already bloated) retail value of the assassin models, with some garbage Chaos Marines thrown in. If you're paying just to get the assassins, you've basically gotten nothing else valuable. Just because something costs money doesn't make it valuable, lol.

Deathstorm was a "great deal", lol. The retail value of the models in that set was over twice the cost of the set.

I did qualify "great deal" with a big IF -- that you wanted the assassins anyhow. The assassins could be up to $30, making them $120 for the set of 4 stuff for essentially $5. Even if the models are $25, you get all the stuff for $25, which is less than the price of the Chaos Lord.

Whether you think $100-$120 for 4 assassins is overpriced or not, *** if you were going to buy them anyhow ***, spending the extra $5-$25 to get an Chaos Lord model, plus some other usable stuff, and a board game is a great deal, for that $5-$25. As I said, if you weren't going to buy at least 3 of the assassins, it's a lousy deal.

And/but: Deathstorm is one of the best deals GW has ever had in terms of models you get for the money. But realistically, the only great models in the box for play value are Carnifex and Death Company (and those are for Blood Angels and Tyranids, two factions that seriously need help ). Maybe the Fragioso, if you really want to play one. Everything else is much more likely to sit on a shelf forever, though fun to model & paint.

I will be all over a Gene cult and KT deathwatch unless they are packed in a pointless boardgame.

First AdMech and now genestealer cults? I'm loving this GW!!

 NAVARRO wrote:
I will be all over a Gene cult and KT deathwatch unless they are packed in a pointless boardgame.

Ahh but what if you could have Gene Cult for $60 and Deathwatch for $60, or boardgame with both for $120?

I think this is highly to be a boardgame, or even a combined box like Stormclaw. Not with TWO new multimodel kits.

I cannot wait for a Genestealer Cult release. Thanks for the thread on Dakka, Verviedi. The original rumor from Hastings from Feb 2015 which he corrected/updated last weekend in his "I 'might' be wrong"-thread on Warseer is the only reliable info of this.

The last paragraph in the OP is not from Hastings, better remove it or exclude it from the quote. I have a lot respect for Hastings, especially his openness about both what he has heard and that he may have misinterpreted it. That's how rumors should be dealt with.

The tagged on stuff from Birds in the Trees - I consider it pure fantasy. When did GW produce Space Marine upgrade parts like this? In 2005 with the 4th Ed Dark Angels? Lately they made entirely new kits in such cases, like the Blood Angels Tacticals and Terminators. I don't buy this at all. It is the same 'Yeah it makes sense so it must be true'-gak all over again - like those ridiculous plastic CSM Cult marine miniatures claims in 2012-2015 - never turning out. Berserkers on 'Molochs' in March? Where are they?

I think there won't be any new parts, just one of the 10-men Tactical boxed sets sold since 2013 painted in a Deathwatch scheme. If there is not a better source chiming in with info, I don't consider this anything to look for - as it won't happen anyway.

Interesting info from Warseer posted last night: Black Library was hiring authors in 2014 to write Deathwatch short stories. It is still on the BL website.

Currently I await a lot more from other infamous sources - posting the entire 1st edition Genestealer Cult product list as what's to come and adding some copy/pasted Compilation rules to it.

Sad Panda had pointed out that several of Hastings rumors are going to come in 2016. So it could be a long time until we get a game like this.

Warhams-77 wrote:
The tagged on stuff from Birds in the Trees - I consider it pure fantasy. When did GW produce Space Marine upgrade parts like this? In 2005 with the 4th Ed Dark Angels? Lately they made entirely new kits in such cases, like the Blood Angels Tacticals and Terminators. I don't buy this at all. It is the same 'Yeah it makes sense so it must be true'-gak all over again - like those ridicolous plastic CSM Cult marine miniatures claims in 2012-2015 - never turning out. Berserkers on 'Molochs' in early march? Where are they?

I think there won't be any new parts, just one of the 10-men Tactical boxed sets sold since 2013 painted in a Deathwatch scheme. If there is not a better source chiming in with info, I don't consider this anything to look for - as it won't happen anyway.

I'm not so sure, for a few reasons:

1. It's cheaper to add bits than to make all new sprues
2. GW is pretty good ad adding a sprue and calling it something else and selling it for more: for example, everything on the Rhino chassis other than the Rhino, or more recently, the new Knights.

I would also guess 5 man box like Sternguard or Death Company, rather than 10 man. If there are lots of loadout options available, it's unlikely to go to 10-man, and if they do, you end up with the problem where you don't have nearly enough weapons of the sort you really want :X

Like you, I am pumped!!

My skin is already turning purple, and then those arms. Handy

But I don't trust unproven sources. Nothing wrong with speculations - if they are communicated like that.

As it happens, there was actually a Genestealer cultist in this month's WH:Visions

I really want to believe this... subscribed for following infos.

 Talys wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
I will be all over a Gene cult and KT deathwatch unless they are packed in a pointless boardgame.

Ahh but what if you could have Gene Cult for $60 and Deathwatch for $60, or boardgame with both for $120?

I think this is highly to be a boardgame, or even a combined box like Stormclaw. Not with TWO new multimodel kits.

Thinking about it they could go the cheap way and sell a small bits sprue to go with their current cultists... that would be really annoying.

But yeah I would rather have a box with the KT rules and those two factions fleshed out a bit more than an handful of minis.

I'm VERY exited with the prospect of any form of genecult in the future, even if GW does no release exactly what I wished for.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
As it happens, there was actually a Genestealer cultist in this month's WH:Visions

Wasn't it a Hybrid? Just one plastic kit with those and a Clampack Magus and a Clampack 'Old Broodlord' would make this release a good start for a new Genestealer Cult range. Heck, they don't even need the latter and could just re-use the Deathstorm Broodlord.

There was one page of new fluff about Genestealer Cults in the Tyranid Invasion Swarms painting guide (p 35) about the Kraken splinter fleet Magalodon. Also a new artwork of a Magalodon Broodlord (p 37).

The campaign boxes they've been putting out haven't been great about including new models, aside from the HQs in each. For that reason alone, I'm kinda shakey on the idea of a Genestealer Cult/Deathwatch campaign box set.

 Brother SRM wrote:
The campaign boxes they've been putting out haven't been great about including new models, aside from the HQs in each. For that reason alone, I'm kinda shakey on the idea of a Genestealer Cult/Deathwatch campaign box set.

If(and this is a big if) the Deathwatch stuff comes out not as an actual kit but rather a Sternguard Veteran kit repackaged with "Deathwatch transfers"? I could see it. Stormclaw did include a really nice set of Space Wolf transfers that have not been released outside of that set.

Interesting that this may actually happen (hastings rumor).

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:
The campaign boxes they've been putting out haven't been great about including new models, aside from the HQs in each. For that reason alone, I'm kinda shakey on the idea of a Genestealer Cult/Deathwatch campaign box set.

If(and this is a big if) the Deathwatch stuff comes out not as an actual kit but rather a Sternguard Veteran kit repackaged with "Deathwatch transfers"? I could see it. Stormclaw did include a really nice set of Space Wolf transfers that have not been released outside of that set.

That would be sad. I hope for something more ambitious!

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:
The campaign boxes they've been putting out haven't been great about including new models, aside from the HQs in each. For that reason alone, I'm kinda shakey on the idea of a Genestealer Cult/Deathwatch campaign box set.

If(and this is a big if) the Deathwatch stuff comes out not as an actual kit but rather a Sternguard Veteran kit repackaged with "Deathwatch transfers"? I could see it. Stormclaw did include a really nice set of Space Wolf transfers that have not been released outside of that set.

That would be sad. I hope for something more ambitious!

I would be surprised if it were something as small as transfers, but Brother SRM makes a good point.

At least in the context of "what they've done in the past". It could be that they do the Genestealer Cult/Deathwatch thing as a pseudo-board game like we are seeing with the Assassins thing, or that they make it a new "limited time starter set" or any number of things.

Since Skitarii became a thing, I just don't know what to make of anything anymore.

I'd expect the genestealers and broodbrothers (if we get them, IG?) to be existing sprues

Its what we see for the hybrid, magus & patriarch (maybe the existing broodlord?) and can I dream, a plastic cult limo that really interest me

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'd expect the genestealers and broodbrothers (if we get them, IG?) to be existing sprues

I would NOT expect the "Broodbrothers" to be existing sprues.

They could have done that with Cultists for Chaos, but instead they made a new sprue for Dark Vengeance(and then later they cut that sprue up so that they could sell you generic autopistol/ccw and autogun Cultists)

Genestealers, yeah--you're pretty spot on about them likely just including the standard Genestealer sprue.

Its what we see for the hybrid, magus & patriarch (maybe the existing broodlord?) and can I dream, a plastic cult limo that really interest me

Where this becomes interesting is as to whether or not this is going to be a genuine "standalone" book. If it is, expect everything to be its own kit. They don't want to let you possibly find a cheaper alternative or have to tell someone who is interested in buying you a present via their webstore or one of their shops that "X is really a part of Y army". They want to be able to just point to a box on the shelf, in its own little niche.

Include an 8 page supplement (or even one of their stupid digital only things) with rules and a short scenario for Space Hulk 3rd/4th edition and there would be another whole set of potential buyers.

I hope we get a Genestealer cult release. It would be just another step towards getting Arbites

Plus who wouldn't want a plastic cult limo?

If they do this, wouldn't they just use the 'Stealers and Broodlord from Space Hulk? Personally, I'm trying not to start anything new, I need to paint what I have......but a Genestealer cult would be too good to pass on. Plus, I'd just add the Deathwatch to my Sisters / Scions / Inquisition that I'm building up!

 Deadp00l wrote:
If they do this, wouldn't they just use the 'Stealers and Broodlord from Space Hulk? Personally, I'm trying not to start anything new, I need to paint what I have......but a Genestealer cult would be too good to pass on. Plus, I'd just add the Deathwatch to my Sisters / Scions / Inquisition that I'm building up!

They'd just use the regular Genestealer sprue for Genestealers I imagine. Cultists/hybrids would need whole new models.

If this is a combined set I am hoping it includes all the rules for Warhammer 40'000 and also all of the Kill Team rules in print too. It could be a great way to launch Kill Team as the gateway product now that WH40k is getting larger and larger.

I also hope for lots of great genstealer cult models!

It would seem bizarre to put Genestealer Cultist figures in a standalone game when they're not currently in the Nid codex.

So yeah, the most likely option is that Genestealer Cultists are getting a mini-codex (along the lines of Harlequins?) or a Nid codex supplement. And yes, maybe those same models will also appear in a standalone game, although GW doesn't seem to take that approach often.

I'd love to see a proper model range, with cultists and hybrids and a limo and a Patriarch, but honestly don't expect that much love from GW :(

BoLS rumours are BS, i wish they'd stop making them up

The description of the death watch having options for making kill teams makes me excited gw might do something to flush out the idea into a real skirmish game.

The current kill team rules well fun are a bit of a novelty at best.

I love the idea of decent Deathwatch but sadly I fear all they would do is remind me of how poor they perform in game versus the fluff. In one short story 5 of them take out an Ork hulk and horders of orks, in another you have a squad and an Inquisitor versus a planet of Tyranids.....

True Deathwatch would need more than just some fancy weapons and Sternguard stats.

Genestealer cult..... again love the idea but its hard to see how they'd bring anything other than nostalgia factor, it's Astra Militarum without the heavy duty stuff and probably better psyker.

Kit is built atop the Plastic Sternguard kit

Includes an additional Deathwatch sprue loaded with Killteam bits including:

Sternguard Sprue costs £30 and contains two sprues (£15 a sprue)

Add another sprue with all the bits for Deathwatch, I'm going to hazard a guess at £45 RRP for a 5 man squad. Or maybe they'll do a special discount and make it a round £40.


Either way, that's a feth-load of money for 5 blokes.

Indeed Wulfmar, they would have to change the Sternguard sprues as the current price is already astronomic. Another sprue added is why it's really hard to believe the 'Birds'-part of the rumors.

Entirely new sprues like the Blood Angels Tacticals? This would make more sense

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
I love the idea of decent Deathwatch but sadly I fear all they would do is remind me of how poor they perform in game versus the fluff. In one short story 5 of them take out an Ork hulk and horders of orks, in another you have a squad and an Inquisitor versus a planet of Tyranids.....

True Deathwatch would need more than just some fancy weapons and Sternguard stats.

Genestealer cult..... again love the idea but its hard to see how they'd bring anything other than nostalgia factor, it's Astra Militarum without the heavy duty stuff and probably better psyker.

Not really it's more Chaos Cultists with some better kit

In first edition when they had their peak there were two Genestealer 'Cult' army lists, one of them the Invasion Force, which consisted of the basic types like the Patriarch (similiar to the modern Broodlord), Magus (Edit: In the Invasion Force army list there is actually only a 'D6 4th Generation Hybrids' entry, who are all psykers and thus very similiar. But a Magus, strongest psyker of all 4th Generation Hybrids, is only available in the Chaos Cult list described below), Genestealers and Hybrids.



Miniatures were Genestealers -> Hybrids (shown here in 3 stages - getting more like humans with each generation) -> The Magus.



This would be quite easy to achieve in miniature form, only 1 kit and 1 clampack needed in the addition to the current Genestealers and Broodlord kits.

In 2nd and 3rd edition they got most of the stuff from the other list, including Cultists (members of Genestealer infested families basically and some rebels), Limousines and other civil vehicles as well as lots of Imperial Guard/PDF vehicles and some troop types. And this is what most people refer to when talking about Genestealer Cults today.




The other list in 1st edition was the Genestealer Cult army, with most of the aforementioned Invasion Force units plus Daemons, Bloodthirster, Chaos Cultists, Beastmen, Limousines and even Cavalry. I cannot see GW bringing this list back. It would be quite easy to do but this is not how GW make armies nowadays (except for Daemonkin maybe)

The Patriarch was doing business with the Chaos Gods











Maybe GW bring back Limousines - which were wheeled or anti-grav cars with black windows to transport the Cult unseen. But if this turns out to be a boardgame how would those fit in?



A nice Conversion by the Cult of the Four Armed Emperor Blog

I would love to see this as a board game boxed set, ala Assassinorium or Space Hulk. Fantastic crossover value, plus some cool board game tiles/board/whatever and a fun little game to play. Bring it on, I say. The two are perfect opponents for one another, although that would make what, 3 or 4 mankind vs tyranid games that they've done. Not that I mind, but a little diversity in the bad guys never hurt.

I don't think the Chaos Worshipping 1st ed Genestealer Cult is going to be a thing in this release. It doesn't mesh well with the modern tyranid fluff. Bringing back chaos gene cults would be like bringing back zoats.


But abit of speculation on what we have been hinted at so far for this new release.


Hasteings did say he didn't know if it was going to be a board game like the assassins, a campaign box, or some sort of starter set.


"Bird in the Trees" is telling us that the new Death Watch modles have options with unique kill team rules in mind for them. (Both melee and shooting). So if bird in the trees is correct, this would imply that the genestealer cult may have specail rules for kill teams also.

A cult limo makes alot more sence in the scope of kill team, then on the "full-scale" 40k table top. Having limos driving around on a table top with super sonic jets, D-weapons, and Super Heavies will look like a bloody joke.

My first GW love, really hope the cult comes back

Looking at those old models it's amazing that considering the redesigns, sometimes multiple of so many other certain units and whole factions over the years of 40k, that the genestealers are relatively unchanged.

Limo so won't happen.

Stealer Cult MUST happen.

I'm not sure which rumors I want to be true more, these or the Sisters rumors.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Limo so won't happen.

Stealer Cult MUST happen.

It might be a stretch but I think the limo is possible

I don't even want to play Tyranids, but I will buy a force in a heartbeat if they do limos as a dedicated transport.

I want to believe...

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/05/genestealer-cult-rumors-arrive.html

Genestealer Cult Rumors Arrive!

Posted by Larry Vela at May 5, 2015


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It looks like the rumor-tree is shaking after word of the Deathwatch vs Genestealer Cult upcoming product. Here’s the latest on the Genestealer Cult!



via Bird in the Trees

GeneStealer Cult Minis Rumors

Clampack 1: Magos with classic robe & staff

Clampack 2:Large-cranium figure with arms extended pose

Editor’s note: Patriarch maybe??

Genestealer Hybrid box: Updated versions of the original plastic Hybrid models. Modern-Genestealer like arms in attack poses, alongside hunam arms with knives, and lasguns. 32mm bases.

Genestealer Cultist box: Rabble humans without obvious mutations. Minor tyranid bits here and there as armor, and some tyranid style weapons as upgrade options.

Cult Truck: A down armored open bed vehicle in the similar vein to the AM Taurox.

These rumors are rated: POSSIBLE, coming from a combination of known and unknown sources

Hmmm...that's about the right amount of stuff. But we've had enough releases now that it could just be an educated guess.
The Taurox actually has an open topped build out of the box...but we haven't seen a 'new army using existing kit' yet so I'd bet on something completely new. Maybe they are taking Genestealer Cults in an exciting new inbred hill billy direction...

 plastictrees wrote:
Maybe they are taking Genestealer Cults in an exciting new inbred hill billy direction...

That was my first though.

It's been AGES since I've been drug out of woodwork to write about rumors, but the idea of assassins, skitarri, and genestealer cults has me all excited.

I've been a fan and major supporter of the 40k world since 1991.

In that time there have been a few major breakthroughs after seond edition, golden ages if you will. My dividing line for GW is at the time of the 3rd Edition release. At this point they dropped all of their side projects and focused on three lines.

What I saw as the nail in their coffin around this time was taking on LOTR. Boo, what a marketing flop to have a company with such a unique IP spend 1/3 of their capacity designing product for a third party. That was a major FAIL!

Anyway, they've managed to drag 40k into the future and they've had some major Aha moments along the way.

We've got some great models, great rules, etc, but there've only been a few times in over 20 years that I've seen GW go all out like they're going now, and I support them 100%.

My only suggestion is to drop their prices 10%. Do whatever it takes, but drop those prices 10%.

Now onto the rumor.

I love it.

I love the idea of a singular boxed board game, but I doubt that would happen. If it does, I still support it 100%.

Why?

Well I'm excited about the Assassins game too. I like board games, and well the quality of the game is high. Since none of us have played it, I don't think any of us can rag on the game itself.

One thing that made me really happy was that in the video for the Assassins game they said "solo play" was an option. I grew up in Wyoming, and had no one to play 40k with my entire childhood. I always wanted a solo play game, and never bought one. If Assassins is truly solo play, I think that is a HUGE move for GW.

I am happy to see them going back into the board game, solo release world.

Everyone that whines about it not being 100% 40k is forgeting about GW's past. And I also can't help but wonder if any of them bid on Necromunda models on Ebay for their 40k armies???

I've been wishing on stars for over a decade that GW would return to the non Warhammer 40k releases and start focusing some effort on skirmish and board games. I'm honestly happy with what I'm seeing, especially since, inlike Space Hulk, they're designing the board and the models to easily convert to a 40k format.

IE give me a boxed set of marines vs. hybrids. I'm game.

Having a Genestealer Cult army make a comeback would be awesome and I would buy it, but I just don't see this as happening.

Maybe a small-scale release that adds on to the Tyranids with 2-3 hybrid models would be plausible, but not a full-on release.

Have you seen the Harlequin and Mechanicus releases?
It's very clear that GW are happy to create a fully supported new armies right now.
No idea if this is going to happen, but I think all bets are off as to what GW are willing to do right now.

 Lockark wrote:
Bringing back chaos gene cults would be like bringing back zoats.

Would it?

 xttz wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
Bringing back chaos gene cults would be like bringing back zoats.

Would it?

I'm talking about the zoats army and their wonky fluff. Like chaos gene cults just doesn't fit with modern 40k.

I think it's a safe bet these will be based for the latter descriptions of the genestealer cult.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
Maybe they are taking Genestealer Cults in an exciting new inbred hill billy direction...

That was my first though.

I have enough hybrids to make a small force but could never make up my mind whether to do them in limos or get some pick-up trucks and pitchforks for the brothers instead. Either seems like it would really work.

 streamdragon wrote:
I'm not sure which rumors I want to be true more, these or the Sisters rumors.

Go with the Genestealer rumors. Those have at least a small chance to come through.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
Maybe they are taking Genestealer Cults in an exciting new inbred hill billy direction...

That was my first though.

I have enough hybrids to make a small force but could never make up my mind whether to do them in limos or get some pick-up trucks and pitchforks for the brothers instead. Either seems like it would really work.

Both!

Obviously!

Cult trucks, huh?

Genestealer Cult Rumors Arrive!

via Bird in the Trees
Genestealer Cultist box: Rabble humans without obvious mutations. Minor tyranid bits here and there as armor...

I want to believe too, but...

Nothing like wearing bits of mankind's second greatest enemy's armor to keep you hidden from the authorities...

I realise that this is the year in which we got a Harlequin Codex and not one but two Adeptus Mechanicus books... but still I just can't believe these rumours.

It's weird isn't it. Go back, what, two years, and Knights, Ad Mech, Harlequins all sound insane.
This one doesn't seem right though somehow. All the kits described sound a bit too generic. Fingers crossed that it's true in some sense or another.

At this rate maybe we'll get squats and a LE Necromunda boxset haha

I just hope they do it right. It's pretty simple, but I can see them screwing up.

Just have rules for hybrids, magus', patriarch, purestrains & broodlords (already written), pick one of a few set factions that would work within the fluff, and let the datachment take one of them as battle brothers.

I'm just afraid they'll make it so we can only work with IG. I have my cult, I just need rules for it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I realise that this is the year in which we got a Harlequin Codex and not one but two Adeptus Mechanicus books... but still I just can't believe these rumours.

It really is hard to believe, isn't it?

As a digital only book for Genestealer Cults, with step by step guides to converting things up--I could believe it.
But a whole model range for them? It just seems beyond belief.

GW's rules fail has been equalled only by their Modeling win this year. I think it might happen.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I realise that this is the year in which we got a Harlequin Codex and not one but two Adeptus Mechanicus books... but still I just can't believe these rumours.

It really is hard to believe, isn't it?

As a digital only book for Genestealer Cults, with step by step guides to converting things up--I could believe it.
But a whole model range for them? It just seems beyond belief.

I personally prefer the "Board Game" hypothesis. I don't believe the "NEW ARMY" thing.
I just report the rumor. I don't believe about half the stuff I post, but they do have a tendency to come true

I only will buy GW miniatures one more time than I'll stop I swear.

If Hastings says that something's coming, I tend to believe it.

But even if true, there are a lot of possibilities regarding the scope. We could get four kits and a codex. Or we could get the Cryptus BL and some Purestrain sprues thrown into the box of this rumored new game as serve as the xenos force. Although that seems like a cut & paste job from SH in terms of adversaries.

Anything is possible, especially these days.

Remember the rumor about Genestealers not being included in the next Codex: Tyranids? (Was that "Whisperer of Truth"?) I really don't think that will happen. HOWEVER, I can see GW-style logic in carving out Purestrains into a separate "GCult" book. Obviously it'd sell more books, but it'd also allow them to sell whatever Genestealer kits are involved to more players in the form of BB/AoC, while keeping Tyranids proper as CTA. It's plausible, if improbable.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I realise that this is the year in which we got a Harlequin Codex and not one but two Adeptus Mechanicus books... but still I just can't believe these rumours.

Since they haven't been mentioned yet now's a good time to bring it up... to think Genestealer Cults would get official model support before SoB is kind of odd. Especially since this stuff really can't be used for another army or something. Perhaps if the human rabble could double as CSM cultists or something? Seems like an odd thing to make.

timd wrote:

Genestealer Cult Rumors Arrive!

via Bird in the Trees
Genestealer Cultist box: Rabble humans without obvious mutations. Minor tyranid bits here and there as armor...

I want to believe too, but...

Nothing like wearing bits of mankind's second greatest enemy's armor to keep you hidden from the authorities...

don't cults show up BEFORE the tyranids do? I thought it was their mental/psychic call that drew them. If so how do they have tyranid bits for armor? It's not like the imperial guard is going to let soldiers bring home bits of xeno as souviners, especially when it's biological in nature.

Stealer Hybrids most likely.
Stealers usually infiltrate and impregnate prior to an invasion, hence the rise of cults and hence the Tyranid bits.

"Minor tyranid bits here and there as armor" could refer to a lot of things.
If could be bits of Stealer carapace. It could be bits of armor similar to the armored exoskeletons on OOP Hybrid models.

::trying to stay positive LOL ::

Eric

I really hope for an army, it would actually spend money to build an army but disregard a "board game" as other dedicated companies would have better board games that my group would actually WANT to play.

As someone said above if you told someone a year and change ago harlies or AM would be armies they would think you it was a pipe dream. Now im not so sure its not a far step for them to bring in line "allies" for tyranids even though fluff wise is kind of grey area.

Man a deathwatch kit, or just a really nice sprue set, would be something I would buy. I just hope its not too terribly expensive.

As much as the codex craziness has been, I would definitely say yes to a cool and usable Deathwatch codex.

 kestral wrote:
GW's rules fail has been equalled only by their Modeling win this year. I think it might happen.

Good point, I wonder if they're in inverse proportion or something.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:
I'm not sure which rumors I want to be true more, these or the Sisters rumors.

Go with the Genestealer rumors. Those have at least a small chance to come through.

;_; true.

gorgon wrote:Cult trucks, huh?

I was just thinking "so... ork trukks with no orks then?"

Theophony wrote:

timd wrote:

don't cults show up BEFORE the tyranids do? I thought it was their mental/psychic call that drew them. If so how do they have tyranid bits for armor? It's not like the imperial guard is going to let soldiers bring home bits of xeno as souviners, especially when it's biological in nature.

Yup. The cults tend to begin infiltrating the PDF and upper societal echelons. IIRC, the Nid codex mentions entire worlds that have fallen to the Tyranids without a single shot fired. The cults literally line up and walk into the digestive pools.

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/10 22:39:42

Post by: dralend

In reference to a Deathwatch vs. Geanstealer Cult box Is it possible this is a "Starter" box for a new Kill Teams release

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/10 23:52:31

Post by: Starfarer

dralend wrote:
Is it possible this is a "Starter" box for a new Kill Teams release

Spoiler:

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/11 06:49:47

Post by: ORicK

Genestealer Cult will be a no-brainer for me.

I added the few original ones i have to my to my Tyranid army a couple of years ago because i lost hope...

I hope this army will become something where the Genestealer Cult is the core army that can ally with both Tyranids (or Genestealers only) and Imperial Guard.
A bit like the Khorne Daemonkin.

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/11 09:27:18

Post by: ToxicBox

Nvs wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I realise that this is the year in which we got a Harlequin Codex and not one but two Adeptus Mechanicus books... but still I just can't believe these rumours.

Since they haven't been mentioned yet now's a good time to bring it up... to think Genestealer Cults would get official model support before SoB is kind of odd. Especially since this stuff really can't be used for another army or something. Perhaps if the human rabble could double as CSM cultists or something? Seems like an odd thing to make.

There we go, the SoB comment Customary for every thread

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/11 10:04:49

Post by: ORicK

The new GW scenery, the pipes, could even be a prequel to the Genestealer Cult.
They quite literally start underground and only 3rd and 4th generation hybrids go above ground, they look like the race they infiltrate.

In a battle they quite literally can come from hiding underground.
In any case i expect an army where infiltration is the basic concept, even infiltration in the other army.

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/11 11:27:28

Post by: Insurgency Walker

ORicK wrote:
The new GW scenery, the pipes, could even be a prequel to the Genestealer Cult.
They quite literally start underground and only 3rd and 4th generation hybrids go above ground, they look like the race they infiltrate.

In a battle they quite literally can come from hiding underground.
In any case i expect an army where infiltration is the basic concept, even infiltration in the other army.

That would be radical! Also in keeping with GW spreading the special rules around. (Looking at you callidus assassin). I hope they do the Genestealer cult justice.

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/11 11:59:22

Post by: Joyboozer

Radical you say? *raises eyebrow*

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/11 20:50:15

Post by: Insurgency Walker

Joyboozer wrote:
Radical you say? *raises eyebrow*

Wicked good?



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Bees knees?

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/11 21:12:51

Post by: migooo

 Bottle wrote:
At this rate maybe we'll get squats and a LE Necromunda boxset haha

at some point I strongly think we might get something more in line with Confrontation at this rate

come on road wars!!

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/05/11 22:23:18

Post by: Dryaktylus

migooo wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
At this rate maybe we'll get squats and a LE Necromunda boxset haha

at some point I strongly think we might get something more in line with Confrontation at this rate

come on road wars!!

Confrontation was just pre-Necromunda. Do you mean Dark Future? IIRC the setting is past now and the US not in such a bad shape.

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/06/15 15:00:31

Post by: Pyrosphere

It became quite calm on this... did somebody see/hear any news?

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/06/15 15:07:43

Post by: Azreal13

Hi, you're new (ish) here, so just so you know, bumping a month dormant thread without any new info is not going to go down well with certain posters (ie those who are desperate for news who may well open the thread expecting it and be disappointed.)

Normally resurrecting a thread this old will get it locked, but hopefully the Mods will let it sink down again until there's real new info (should there be any.)

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/06/15 15:14:04

Post by: Pyrosphere

Ok...
There was a pop-up box with a hint on this, but it seemed inapproriate to me to create a new Thread just to ask about "did someone hear soemthing new about the Deathwatch-Kit/Codex".

In my experience, new threads on the same topic are not welcome.
Sorry.

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/06/15 15:15:59

Post by: Accolade

Trust me, if there *is* news on this particular topic, it WILL be posted quickly

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/06/15 16:06:51

Post by: migooo

 Dryaktylus wrote:

migooo wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
At this rate maybe we'll get squats and a LE Necromunda boxset haha

at some point I strongly think we might get something more in line with Confrontation at this rate

come on road wars!!

Confrontation was just pre-Necromunda. Do you mean Dark Future? IIRC the setting is past now and the US not in such a bad shape.

Yeah Dark future sorry. Well it could always be an alternative Earth like fallout.

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/06/15 17:27:53

Post by: Bottle

Oh man, came back here expecting an update

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/06/15 17:35:49

Post by: Theophony

Pyrosphere wrote:
Ok...
There was a pop-up box with a hint on this, but it seemed inapproriate to me to create a new Thread just to ask about "did someone hear soemthing new about the Deathwatch-Kit/Codex".

In my experience, new threads on the same topic are not welcome.
Sorry.

New threads, especially ones asking questions with no relevant data is worse. But welcome to the forums where everyone's first steps are at least a step in the right direction.

I think we won't be seeing anything new 40k wise for a bit now. With the AOS coming July 4th and the reintroduction of fantasy I think we will have a huge year of fantasy in front of us. The only way I see that being interrupted would be if the sales of fantasy really don't change for the better of if fantasy gets such a cold reception and GW has to get 40k buzzing more to take the sting away from the new fantasy edition.

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/06/15 18:14:30

Post by: migooo

 Theophony wrote:

Pyrosphere wrote:
Ok...
There was a pop-up box with a hint on this, but it seemed inapproriate to me to create a new Thread just to ask about "did someone hear soemthing new about the Deathwatch-Kit/Codex".

In my experience, new threads on the same topic are not welcome.
Sorry.

New threads, especially ones asking questions with no relevant data is worse. But welcome to the forums where everyone's first steps are at least a step in the right direction.

I think we won't be seeing anything new 40k wise for a bit now. With the AOS coming July 4th and the reintroduction of fantasy I think we will have a huge year of fantasy in front of us. The only way I see that being interrupted would be if the sales of fantasy really don't change for the better of if fantasy gets such a cold reception and GW has to get 40k buzzing more to take the sting away from the new fantasy edition.

Don't count on it Gsc and DW are still supposedly pencilled in for Nov

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Genestealer Cult and Deathwatch Rumors @ 2015/06/16 10:09:37

Post by: Pyrosphere

migooo wrote:
Gsc and DW are still supposedly pencilled in for Nov

Now that IS something new! All the rumors i've seen didn't have a date.

So I will wait until Nov, instead of starting a not-really-satisfying DW army now, by painting vanilla SM in DW colors.