After a heated debate with my friends, they are still adamant that an Xbox one is better. Which one really is?

PC Master Race of Course.

But of those two, the PS4 is.

I've owned several XBOX systems and several PS systems since their first inception. Last generation, the 360 was clearly superior to the PS3. This time around, I believe it's the PS4.

The PS4 just seems to a have a lot more going for it than the Xbone this time around.

About the only thing that I think will matter are the small number of console exclusives.

Take your pick. Personally I think the PS4 has a more robust library thus far (many of the worthwhile XBone exclusives are shooters), but many of the big name titles have been going multi-platform.

This debate will never be won by either side.


I don't have either, but I will get a ps4. Mostly because I hate the Xbox control, even with my massive hands I find it cumbersome.

PCs are technically better, but I'd rather splurge once every seven years than have to upgrade a rig every two to three. Plus, I like having a big screen. It makes msg prettier.

Both are just as good as each other IMO, although I only have a PS4.

I have a PS4 and I'm not planning on buying a Xbone, but this generation it seems to be all about the exclusives - see which of the two consoles have the exclusive games you like and buy it.

I think the PS4 just ekes out ahead of the Xbone in terms of raw processing power.

Microsoft tried pushing the Kinect with the Xbone, but that effort's already dead.

PS4 has the upcoming Mobius VR headgear, which is apparently pretty good.

PC.

If it's between the two: depends. The PS4 is the stronger console and PSPlus is vastly superior to Xbox Live.

In the end, it boils down to console exclusives.

Having witnessed many a console war during my time on this planet I have to agree with those that say that ultimately the only thing that matters is the exclusives and which ones appeal to you most.

In every console iteration there is endless debate about which console is technically superior. That hasn't really mattered since the N64 / Playstation days as ever since Microsoft have appeared on the scene developers have just developed for the lowest common denominator anyway. The only time technical superiority matters is when looking at exclusives, which takes me back to my first point that your choice of which console to buy is based on which exclusives appeal most to you.

Xbox One.

Better exclusives, and a better network by far.

 welshhoppo wrote:
This debate will never be won by either side.


I don't have either, but I will get a ps4. Mostly because I hate the Xbox control, even with my massive hands I find it cumbersome.

Have you held the Xbone controller? It's amazing compared to my 360 controller.

I own the Xbox, but I don't have any favoritism one way or the other. But the backwards compatibility update in November is the bee's knees. You can play 360 games on your One with your 360 friends.

Xbox 360 definitely is the better controller, hands down...or...on...Xbox controller on PC, there you go, magnus opum.

I always enjoyed the xbox controllers over playstation, but the PS4 controller is good.

Honestly, they're pretty equivalent. I will say that the free games I got with xbox gold were MUCH better than the free games I get with PSN.

Xbox gold gave out actual AAA games which were just a few years old, but PSN just keeps throwing crappy indie games out. Honestly, some of them are ok, but overall they're very lackluster.

Once a few years pass, perhaps PSN will start giving out older decent games.

If you play sports games, and take two identical TVs, with identical HDMI cables, and put them side by side with a PS4 and Xbox, the PS4's graphics are definitely stronger.

In the previous generation this was also the case, as when I saw Madden on 360, the "grass" looked like that supermarket turf at the seafood counter but the PS3 grass, you could definitely make out the blades, see stuff kicking up during plays, etc.

On the whole, I obviously prefer the playstation. I think the controller is simply better set up, and easier to use. The few exclusive titles that I do play, tend to be PS exclusive, and as I said, when I've done or seen the "identical setup" tests done, IMHO, the playstation passes the eye test on the same games.

The only exclusive that I feel I missed out on is Killzone.

But Gears of War is a good consolation prize


It comes down to what you are willing to pay, and what is comfortable in your hands. I got the Xbone, 2 controllers, and 3 games for just over the base cost of the PS4 (Costco membership for the win)

It can boil down to as... what do your friends have?

I have both... but, if I had to choose, I'd go with PS4 (and just barely).

PS4 just has much better processing power, however, PS4 has massive room for potential upgrades because of stuff like PS+ and handheld systems like PSV. Potentially there could be future handhelds or the like giving you further options beyond the console itself. XB1 only has the Windows links, but if you are playing hardcore PC you wouldn't really be playing XB1 at all, and for flash games and the like the link with XB1 doesn't really matter.
Also, Dualshock 4's touch pad and other features give it a potential for future games to make use of, which XB1 can never do.

In terms of exclusives it comes down to preference. I've always been a PS man, but I loved the Souls games and Bloodborne exclusivity was a big draw for me for example, but then again stuff like Dead Rising 3 (IIRC?) Also looked great so its really a preference. Major games like Call of Duty, Battlefield, GTA, various racing games, etc, are always going to be open to both consoles.

I have both and much prefer the PS4. But I still have games for both. Most of my friends have a PS4 as well, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.

 Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:
The only exclusive that I feel I missed out on is Killzone.

Yeah, don't sweat it. I picked it up the other day for $20 and it was just ok. Was your pretty basic FPS, like CoD but without any interesting weapons.

I voted X Box as I've never really been into Sony exclusives. Last gen was the first and only gen I owned a Sony console and I rarely ever played it, my 360 got all the love. Heavenly Sword was amazing but I didn't really enjoy any of the other exclusive offerings. Uncharted was meh, Infamous was a grossly inferior version of the Arkham games, Little Big Planet got old fast, Resistance was blah, mod nation racers was okay, and God of War 3 was a pretty forgettable game. And boy did I hate Demons Souls.

X-Box exclusives on the other hand I really loved. Halo, Gears, the first BioShock, the first Mass Effect, all amazing games. I also much prefer the controller, especially for shooters which is mostly what I play.

If youre going purely on metrics, the PS4 wins, but just barely. Might matter for some games, but in the end, itd depend on three factors: Do you like the controller? Do you like the exclusives? Do your friends have the same system?

If youre bothered by the technical side of things and want far better graphics than the alternative, a PC will always win.

Honestly, XBone going backwards compatible in November seals the deal. It wins with that. Otherwise, I simply got an XBone because most of my friends that I play games with have one.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Honestly, XBone going backwards compatible in November seals the deal. It wins with that. Otherwise, I simply got an XBone because most of my friends that I play games with have one.

The Xbox one is going to be back wards compatible?

IMO PS4 is better at this time. It just has more games I want to play.

 sing your life wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Honestly, XBone going backwards compatible in November seals the deal. It wins with that. Otherwise, I simply got an XBone because most of my friends that I play games with have one.

The Xbox one is going to be back wards compatible?

It's true. Soon you'll be able to run 360 games in glorious sub-30 FPS rates.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Soon you'll be able to run 360 games in glorious sub-30 FPS rates.

You're supposed to apply cold tap water directly to the burnt area, right?

 welshhoppo wrote:
This debate will never be won by either side.


I don't have either, but I will get a ps4. Mostly because I hate the Xbox control, even with my massive hands I find it cumbersome.

PCs are technically better, but I'd rather splurge once every seven years than have to upgrade a rig every two to three. Plus, I like having a big screen. It makes msg prettier.

There is nothing stopping you from using an HDMI cable to connect your PC to a big-screen TV. My PC is connected to a 48" HDTV.

Its the only answer

I however will vote the Xbone for now because i just got one for free

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
I voted X Box as I've never really been into Sony exclusives. Last gen was the first and only gen I owned a Sony console and I rarely ever played it, my 360 got all the love. Heavenly Sword was amazing but I didn't really enjoy any of the other exclusive offerings. Uncharted was meh, Infamous was a grossly inferior version of the Arkham games, Little Big Planet got old fast, Resistance was blah, mod nation racers was okay, and God of War 3 was a pretty forgettable game. And boy did I hate Demons Souls.

X-Box exclusives on the other hand I really loved. Halo, Gears, the first BioShock, the first Mass Effect, all amazing games. I also much prefer the controller, especially for shooters which is mostly what I play.

Then you missed The Last of Us, which was a late PS3 exclusive, and one of the best zombie-apocalypse games ever written.

There will always be good exclusives one misses if they only own one system. OTOH if you are a manly and virile gamer you will own both and play the best games on each; it is about the games not the system.

Also, Desubot may be right about PC.

PC. Following that, Nintendo as they actually try to do things differently that hold themselves apart from generic "PC with proprietary software" that is XB and PS these days.

But if I had to pick between those two, PS4, as it is superior in a purely technical definition.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Xbox 360 definitely is the better controller, hands down...or...on...Xbox controller on PC, there you go, magnus opum.

I've never owned a playstation because I absolutely can't stand the controller. The layout is just terrible, while the Xbox fits perfectly in hand. But, at least it's not a nintendo controller.

 DarkLink wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Xbox 360 definitely is the better controller, hands down...or...on...Xbox controller on PC, there you go, magnus opum.

I've never owned a playstation because I absolutely can't stand the controller. The layout is just terrible, while the Xbox fits perfectly in hand. But, at least it's not a nintendo controller.

If you like 360 controllers you better like the GameCube controller as it literally has the exact same layout.

 Melissia wrote:
PC. Following that, Nintendo as they actually try to do things differently that hold themselves apart from generic "PC with proprietary software" that is XB and PS these days.

But if I had to pick between those two, PS4, as it is superior in a purely technical definition.

Nintendos systems are entirely based on gimmicks like being hand-helds, touchscreens, cameras, 3D, motion controls and the WiiU's tablet thing. The systems themselves are pretty lame and the games are all only average, with a select few being good enough to actually warrant buying a Nintendo system for the exclusives. Talking things like Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Smash Bros, etc.

Which means Nintendo is a step above XB and PS, which have very little really to differentiate each other in my mind-- they're nothing more than PCs with proprietary operating systems.

Living in Japan, PS4 is definitely better, for the rest i leave it to the raving fanboys.

 Ahtman wrote:
... it is about the games not the system.

The system can determine what games you can play, so it is a little about the system.

 Melissia wrote:
Which means Nintendo is a step above XB and PS, which have very little really to differentiate each other in my mind-- they're nothing more than PCs with proprietary operating systems.

No it means they are inferior systems with a cute little do-da to make them seem useable when really they suck.

 Deadshot wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Which means Nintendo is a step above XB and PS, which have very little really to differentiate each other in my mind-- they're nothing more than PCs with proprietary operating systems.

No it means they are inferior systems with a cute little do-da to make them seem useable when really they suck.

Plus, their exclusives amount to the same games they released thirty years ago, released over and over again.....

I could connect it to a large television, and I sometimes do to watch movies on it. I'm just not fond that fond of gaming rigs.

 Desubot wrote:

Spoiler:

Its the only answer

Wow, what a useful, original, and inspiring comment! Never in my life have I laid my eyes upon such a thing, thank you!

 Deadshot wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Which means Nintendo is a step above XB and PS, which have very little really to differentiate each other in my mind-- they're nothing more than PCs with proprietary operating systems.

No it means they are inferior systems with a cute little do-da to make them seem useable when really they suck.

And yet they still stand out more than XB and PS do-- two systems that are basically interchangable, and pointless when you could have PC instead.

PS4 is the only console with any exclusives or "get it firsts" I want in the pipe.

 Melissia wrote:
Nintendo as they actually try to do things differently that hold themselves apart from generic "PC with proprietary software" that is XB and PS these days.

I love playing the same games remade over and over for each Nintendo system

Though the motion control with the Wii systems is interesting I don't feel it often adds all that much most of the time.

Personally my PS3 is essentially a blu ray player, my wii and wii you just look pretty on the shelf. My 360 is played a lot.

When Fallout 4 ships, my XB1 will also ship


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 Melissia wrote:
And yet they still stand out more than XB and PS do-- two systems that are basically interchangable, and pointless when you could have PC instead.

I have a PC too... but I can't use it for work if I hook it to the TV as my wife will want to watch TV or play one of the consoles. I don't like playing games on it as it is in another room from where my wife is watching TV or playing games; a PC is antisocial. My wife and I regularly play console games together, or sit on the sofa together while one plays games and the other reads or does something else.

I've never been able to do that with a PC... which makes PC gaming pointless for me... not that I don't PC game when the wife is away

1. Build wife PC
2. Get HDTVs to connect PCs to.
3. Play MMOs together.

 Melissia wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Which means Nintendo is a step above XB and PS, which have very little really to differentiate each other in my mind-- they're nothing more than PCs with proprietary operating systems.

No it means they are inferior systems with a cute little do-da to make them seem useable when really they suck.

And yet they still stand out more than XB and PS do-- two systems that are basically interchangable, and pointless when you could have PC instead.

PC isn't going to let me play Persona 5 and of currently announced releases across all platforms it's the game I'm looking forward to the most. There are games that come out for consoles that don't for PC. Those games may not run to your tastes but you can't call consoles interchangeable and pointless . They aren't interchangeable at least not yet.

 Psienesis wrote:
1. Build wife PC
2. Get HDTVs to connect PCs to.
3. Play MMOs together.

Neither of us are interested in MMO's

And relies on having two PC's, and two TV's for something I currently have one TV and a console for

If the problem is you can't play games cause your wife is hogging the TV, I consider that a domestic problem rather htan a problem for any particular gaming platform.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

Spoiler:

Its the only answer

Wow, what a useful, original, and inspiring comment! Never in my life have I laid my eyes upon such a thing, thank you!

Glad i can drop you some helpful advice.

The XB1 does have some neat features and with Windows 10 coming out should be even better. DX12 should assist with the XB1s lack of oomph from what I have read.

I have a PS4 myself and am very happy with it. I had the first XBOX then went to the PS3 from that and haven't looked back.

If playing on the same TV as the one your misses watches is an issue I got a bundle with PSNow, and where I haven't made use of the store, I have used the streaming function where I can stream my PS4 downstairs to a tv upstairs and still play my games. You can do the same on Windows 10 and XB1 as well.

I'm a PC gamer myself, but I'm definitely thinking of getting a PS4 after I get a new PC. It's more powerful than the XB! (IIRC), and it actualy has exclusives I care about. Although I wish exclusives didn't exist, but I guess Sony has to make it's money somehow. It doesn't help that Japan's PC market is pretty much non-existent, so it's hard to get a lot of JPRGs, what with the PC ports often coming out much later, and Japan isn't really known for a history of good ports.

 Melissia wrote:
If the problem is you can't play games cause your wife is hogging the TV, I consider that a domestic problem rather htan a problem for any particular gaming platform.

More, most of the the games that we have on console are games we can play together or at least are fun to watch. If I want to use my PC to do work, or play any of the PC games I have (the vast majority of which are single player and/or my wife is not interested in) and need to tie up the TV to do so then that is a limitation of a particular gaming system

Would you rather play Uncharted 4 or Tomb Raider 2?

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
If the problem is you can't play games cause your wife is hogging the TV, I consider that a domestic problem rather htan a problem for any particular gaming platform.

More, most of the the games that we have on console are games we can play together or at least are fun to watch. If I want to use my PC to do work, or play any of the PC games I have (the vast majority of which are single player and/or my wife is not interested in) and need to tie up the TV to do so then that is a limitation of a particular gaming system

No, it's not. That's a limitation of your particular setup. If your wife isn't interested in playing any particular game with you and wants to watch tv instead, then you can't play them, either. I know I've lived with people who, at specific times of the day, DEMANDED to have access to a TV to watch specific shows, and wouldn't just let people play games on said TV at those times-- no matter if they were console or PC.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I'm a PC gamer myself, but I'm definitely thinking of getting a PS4 after I get a new PC. It's more powerful than the XB! (IIRC), and it actualy has exclusives I care about. Although I wish exclusives didn't exist, but I guess Sony has to make it's money somehow. It doesn't help that Japan's PC market is pretty much non-existent, so it's hard to get a lot of JPRGs, what with the PC ports often coming out much later, and Japan isn't really known for a history of good ports.

If you want JRPGs why not get a second hand PSVita? Practically all they make on it now are JRPGs.

 Signet-Powers wrote:
Would you rather play Uncharted 4 or Tomb Raider 2?

PS4 can play both, so...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Signet-Powers wrote:
Would you rather play Uncharted 4 or Tomb Raider 2?

PS4 can play both, so...

Oh yeah, timed exclusive. I Forgot that. IN that case...

Uncharted 4 or Halo 5?

Neither one?

PS4 for me, partly because I get a lot more out of PS Plus having both a Vita and PS3 so I effectively get more value from having "free games" in addition to being more invested in Sony's IP from being on the PS3 the last generation. It has a good balance of AAA games like Uncharted 4, Persona 5, Bloodborne and now Gravity Rush 2 which are all exclusives I'm into, and it luckily has the indies for couch co-op as well like Towerfall Ascension and Helldivers that gives it the versatility that IMO, puts it over the Xbone. Also the design at least takes up a lot less space (especially given the lack of a power brick) which is important for my living situation.

I feel like the PS4 probably has a stronger library, but the dual-shock controller is terrible compared to the 360/One controller (thumb stick lay-outs make me hate life).

I'll probably get a One, use it to play Gears and Halo with my friends and never touch the console otherwise. I do most of my gaming on PC anyway.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
... it is about the games not the system.

The system can determine what games you can play, so it is a little about the system.

Only if you plan on getting one system.

 Signet-Powers wrote:
Uncharted 4 or Halo 5?

Well... Halo's never been interesting. It might've been, once upon a time, but Microsoft saw to that.

And Uncharted 2 is probably one of the best PS3 games ever made (Uncharted 3 weren't bad neither!), so Uncharted 4.

Of course I won't get to play either of them as I'm a PC gamer. I'd love Uncharted on PC... man that'd be amazing.

 Ahtman wrote:
Only if you plan on getting one system.

To be honest I don't know many who get two.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I feel like the PS4 probably has a stronger library, but the dual-shock controller is terrible compared to the 360/One controller (thumb stick lay-outs make me hate life).

I'll probably get a One, use it to play Gears and Halo with my friends and never touch the console otherwise. I do most of my gaming on PC anyway.

The PS thumbsticks make more sense than the Xbox. Symmetry is good for the hand-eye coordination and means your hands are in a more comfortable postion than having to stretch for the left stick. The shape of the controller also brings the shoulders and the Dpad closer than the stick and shoulders of the Xbox. Also, I personally hate outward-curving triggers so feth you Xbox lovers for bringing that gak to PS4.

The xbox controller feels more awkward to my hands than the dualshock design.

Dualshock controllers just feel terrible to me.

The dualshock design felt weird for a while after being a 360 user for the duration - I actually had some pains in my hand as I wasn't used to the location of the left thumbstick. But I quickly got over this, and I really enjoy the use of the touchpad.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
To be honest I don't know many who get two.

There's a certain type of person who gets two. In many ways, they are the person who has 4 FW titans, buys 2k points of whatever the newest splash army is, etc. Or, they are the classic "one-upper" of the social group. The guy/gal who has to have the newest and best gadget or toy, and so to ensure they are never left behind, they get ALL the toys.

Conversely, one person who may get both PS4 and Xbone, would be the game reviewers on youtube and such.

Melissia wrote:The xbox controller feels more awkward to my hands than the dualshock design.

For one of the few times, Melissia and I agree one something

I think that maybe I just have oddly shaped hands, because a number of friends with similarly sized hands love the Xbox controllers, but I just find them big in the wrong places, and just awkward overall. That awkwardness makes them "difficult" for me to use regularly.

We as a family would end up getting both eventually because I have nephews and young cousins to entertain. But that's neither here nor there.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
To be honest I don't know many who get two.

In all fairness I don't have a PS4 atm, but I do get PS4 games I want when they are on sale and just hold on to them. When there is a PS4 sale/price drop at the right time I'll pick one up. My wife likes Kingdom Hearts and III doesn't come out for a bit so we got a Xbone first. Having both doesn't mean getting them at the same time, just being patient.

I used to be an Xbox owner but after the machine junked itself I replaced it with a PS3 and now a PS4 with the new generation.

A friend of mine got through six of the things on guarantee, which is absolutely nuts.

So for me it's not games catalogue or performance, it's just the fact that MS would dare to bring such a product to market. Even at my amateur level of electronics skills the inside of the MS looked shoddy, sounded like a jet fighter taking off when you switched it on, and didn't feel like the expensive piece of technology it was. I honestly can't think of another machine that was as badly made, and I've had consoles running back to the Atari 2600 (OK, perhaps the first ZX81 !)

I think if you care at all about that kind of thing or are in the least bit conscientious then there is only one answer to this poll, in my view.

Are you referring to the Xbox 360 or the Xbone? I know the early versions of the 360 had a tendency to brick themselves so I waited on improved models before picking one up but I have never had an issue with the One nor heard of others having it be so problematic.

Haven't heard anything about the xbone bricking itself, either. It seems to be a reasonably stable machine.

 Melissia wrote:
Haven't heard anything about the xbone bricking itself, either. It seems to be a reasonably stable machine.

As long as you don't block the vents, its a tank. My 6 year old turned it on before bed one night, and I didn't think to check if he turned it off (he knows how, and that he's supposed to). Went to play about 14 hours later, and it wasn't even warm, game still running full throttle.

As I said earlier, the controller fits my hand almost perfectly, but I do wish it was a little better construction. My Microsoft controller's trigger squeaks after 4 months, but the aftermarket one I bought is solid.

 Deadshot wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I feel like the PS4 probably has a stronger library, but the dual-shock controller is terrible compared to the 360/One controller (thumb stick lay-outs make me hate life).

I'll probably get a One, use it to play Gears and Halo with my friends and never touch the console otherwise. I do most of my gaming on PC anyway.

The PS thumbsticks make more sense than the Xbox. Symmetry is good for the hand-eye coordination and means your hands are in a more comfortable postion than having to stretch for the left stick. The shape of the controller also brings the shoulders and the Dpad closer than the stick and shoulders of the Xbox. Also, I personally hate outward-curving triggers so feth you Xbox lovers for bringing that gak to PS4.

You're probably gonna find yourself in the minority on this one. The thumbsticks and crappy shoulder buttons are two of the worst things about the PS controller. The Xbox, on the other hand, is pretty widely renown for having a very comfortable controller. Ergonomics are hit and miss by their nature, but I'm pretty sure popular opinion is firmly with the Xbox here.

 DarkLink wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I feel like the PS4 probably has a stronger library, but the dual-shock controller is terrible compared to the 360/One controller (thumb stick lay-outs make me hate life).

I'll probably get a One, use it to play Gears and Halo with my friends and never touch the console otherwise. I do most of my gaming on PC anyway.

The PS thumbsticks make more sense than the Xbox. Symmetry is good for the hand-eye coordination and means your hands are in a more comfortable postion than having to stretch for the left stick. The shape of the controller also brings the shoulders and the Dpad closer than the stick and shoulders of the Xbox. Also, I personally hate outward-curving triggers so feth you Xbox lovers for bringing that gak to PS4.

You're probably gonna find yourself in the minority on this one. The thumbsticks and crappy shoulder buttons are two of the worst things about the PS controller. The Xbox, on the other hand, is pretty widely renown for having a very comfortable controller. Ergonomics are hit and miss by their nature, but I'm pretty sure popular opinion is firmly with the Xbox here.

Well then I'm proudly in the minority... I've always maintained a certain level of hatred for Xbox controllers. They simply haven't gotten it "right" even going into a third generation of controller.

 Melissia wrote:

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
If the problem is you can't play games cause your wife is hogging the TV, I consider that a domestic problem rather htan a problem for any particular gaming platform.

More, most of the the games that we have on console are games we can play together or at least are fun to watch. If I want to use my PC to do work, or play any of the PC games I have (the vast majority of which are single player and/or my wife is not interested in) and need to tie up the TV to do so then that is a limitation of a particular gaming system

No, it's not. That's a limitation of your particular setup. If your wife isn't interested in playing any particular game with you and wants to watch tv instead, then you can't play them, either. I know I've lived with people who, at specific times of the day, DEMANDED to have access to a TV to watch specific shows, and wouldn't just let people play games on said TV at those times-- no matter if they were console or PC.

I think at this point we can agree to disagree.

Consoles work for us, a PC does not.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 DarkLink wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
I feel like the PS4 probably has a stronger library, but the dual-shock controller is terrible compared to the 360/One controller (thumb stick lay-outs make me hate life).

I'll probably get a One, use it to play Gears and Halo with my friends and never touch the console otherwise. I do most of my gaming on PC anyway.

The PS thumbsticks make more sense than the Xbox. Symmetry is good for the hand-eye coordination and means your hands are in a more comfortable postion than having to stretch for the left stick. The shape of the controller also brings the shoulders and the Dpad closer than the stick and shoulders of the Xbox. Also, I personally hate outward-curving triggers so feth you Xbox lovers for bringing that gak to PS4.

You're probably gonna find yourself in the minority on this one. The thumbsticks and crappy shoulder buttons are two of the worst things about the PS controller. The Xbox, on the other hand, is pretty widely renown for having a very comfortable controller. Ergonomics are hit and miss by their nature, but I'm pretty sure popular opinion is firmly with the Xbox here.

Well then I'm proudly in the minority... I've always maintained a certain level of hatred for Xbox controllers. They simply haven't gotten it "right" even going into a third generation of controller.

Same here, very proudly. Like I said, the asymmetric controller is just wrong, it makes you stretch too much. The biggest complaint I've seen about Dualshock 3 was the size, but the size was ok when it was PS1 and 2. The DS4 makes it bigger and is by far the most comfortable controller I've used, and yes I have played games on my friend's XB360.

Funnily enough, the Dualshock Controllers make me stretch my thumbs and is still a tad too small

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Funnily enough, the Dualshock Controllers make me stretch my thumbs and is still a tad too small

No rudeness intended (severe hangover right now), but how? Like, I just don't get how it makes you stretch?

 Deadshot wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Funnily enough, the Dualshock Controllers make me stretch my thumbs and is still a tad too small

No rudeness intended (severe hangover right now), but how? Like, I just don't get how it makes you stretch?

The thumbstick positions just make me place my thumbs (or, rather, left thumb!) in a position that - to me - feels weird and unnatural.

It's the mirror opposite of the right side though... so how?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's the mirror opposite of the right side though... so how?

I don't know? The magical power of years of using Xbox, I guess?

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
If the problem is you can't play games cause your wife is hogging the TV, I consider that a domestic problem rather htan a problem for any particular gaming platform.

More, most of the the games that we have on console are games we can play together or at least are fun to watch. If I want to use my PC to do work, or play any of the PC games I have (the vast majority of which are single player and/or my wife is not interested in) and need to tie up the TV to do so then that is a limitation of a particular gaming system

No, it's not. That's a limitation of your particular setup. If your wife isn't interested in playing any particular game with you and wants to watch tv instead, then you can't play them, either. I know I've lived with people who, at specific times of the day, DEMANDED to have access to a TV to watch specific shows, and wouldn't just let people play games on said TV at those times-- no matter if they were console or PC.

I think at this point we can agree to disagree.

Consoles work for us, a PC does not.

No, I don't think so. Your reasons for saying PC doesn't work don't make any sense.

 Deadshot wrote:
The PS thumbsticks make more sense than the Xbox. Symmetry is good for the hand-eye coordination and means your hands are in a more comfortable postion than having to stretch for the left stick. The shape of the controller also brings the shoulders and the Dpad closer than the stick and shoulders of the Xbox. Also, I personally hate outward-curving triggers so feth you Xbox lovers for bringing that gak to PS4.

Symmetry has no bearing on ergonomics. Mouse+Keyboard is asymmetric but tests have shown that it's a vastly superior configuration to any console controller.

Fact is, your thumbs have less dexterity when your hands are in the shape of holding a cup. This doesn't matter for things like RPG's or side-scrollers but it's a problem for shooters.

The 360 controller (and now the One controller) is almost exclusively used in E-sports for all shooters. It's considered the gold-standard in the pro-gaming community.

I personaly bought the Xbox because if i bought a 2tb harddisk and the xbox one it would cost the same as a ps4 500gb.

All the games that i play is multi-platform so the deciding factor for me was the price.

But i must admit that the app for windows 10 is awsome.. When ever the wife watches some crappy show, i can turn on the xbox and go down to my pc and play from there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozl5iTXkARU

 Melissia wrote:
No, I don't think so.

Then I am afraid I am going to have to disapoint you and not carry on arguing with you pointlessly

Considering I use my console 80% for media, 20% for gaming, the xbox one is the only system I would consider. I run a plex server and a 150" rear projector and the xbox has much better video/audio codex format support.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's the mirror opposite of the right side though... so how?

I don't know? The magical power of years of using Xbox, I guess?

I used Xbox controllers for quite a few years, and I didn't find using the duelshock notably unconfortable to use compared to the former.

Not having either system, I would lean towards PS4. That's largely because I do have a PS3. Although, 90% of its use has been as a Blu-Ray player rather than a game machine. I've tried, I've honestly tried, but I'm far too much of a PC gamer. To me, gaming just doesn't feel right on a couch in front of a TV, but at my desk with mouse and keyboard at hand is what my soul craves.

Ps4

It has a better library of games. Sony has done a great job with the ps4 after gaking the bed with the ps3.

Only thing I am really interested in for the X1 is Halo 5 and and Halo collection but don't think halo is no longer the console seller that Halo 1 was.

Though Halo 5 looks pretty interesting first halo I've been interested in since Halo 2.


Please come to PC, Halo.

Have had both, currently only have a Xbox One, LIVE would win it for me on its own.. after trying PSN for a month, I was horrified on how folks put up with it, interface on the PS4 was also annoying, but the most annoying thing I found was the on/off button being possibly the worst design in console history, annoyed the feth out of me and let to my pretty quick dismissal of the system. Dual shock is also a step backwards compared to the Xbox pads, although, the 360 pad was 100% better than the one, still hoping someone does a retro version at some point.

Probably doesn't help that apart from Last of Us, no other exclusive PS4 has interest me.


On a side note regarding Nintendo, anyone else feel they be better pulling a Sega at some point and ditching the console hardware.. can't see how it would do anything other than make them lots and lots of money concentrating on games design, perhaps holding the handheld market as well.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

On a side note regarding Nintendo, anyone else feel they be better pulling a Sega at some point and ditching the console hardware.. can't see how it would do anything other than make them lots and lots of money concentrating on games design, perhaps holding the handheld market as well.

I think their "thing" is highly interactive games though. Smash Bros. excluded, pretty much every WiiU game makes use of moving the controlling apparatus in some fashion to play the game. Imagine what they could do with PS4's tech, or with both system's (thus far) failed usage of camera/motion capturing style games.


Basically, I agree with you, that Nintendo could theoretically revitalize itself as a handheld company, or as simply a peripheral system/game designer.

[quote=Morathi's Darkest Sin 663873 8137584 44cff0d118782f1817c02d2ce1de454d.jpgalthough, the 360 pad was 100% better than the one, still hoping someone does a retro version at some point..

I quite like the x-box style controller, I have one for my games I got from razer.

I have XBOX 360 and PS3 and always liked the XBOX 360 a lot better. Above all the controller.
PS4 controller seems to be better, but i have a XBOX One HALO edition coming in next month, so the primary choice has been made, and i don't know if i will also get a PS4 later on.

PC is nice and has advantages. But i don't like both sitting in front of a monitor even more (i am an ICT-specialist).
And shooting with a mouse is IMO about the least interesting thing there is, followed by moving by using a keyboard.
I strongly prefer a controller.
And yes, i know "you can use a controller!" but that is totally unbalanced if the other players don't and just use the mouse and point and click.

 Ahtman wrote:
Are you referring to the Xbox 360 or the Xbone? I know the early versions of the 360 had a tendency to brick themselves so I waited on improved models before picking one up but I have never had an issue with the One nor heard of others having it be so problematic.

Sorry, yes I should have made it clear was the previous generation machine the 360.

On the Xbox, I want Halo 5 and Fable Legends (as panned as that series is, I still enjoy Fable games overall).
On the PS4, I want the Last Of Us and Until Dawn.

I couldn't make up my mind, so I joined the PC Master race instead and built myself a pc for the first time.

There's no hard and fast "best" of the two. Not at this point in time.

PS4 is a more powerful system and more complex games/those who push the hardware tend to look better on the PS4, better look and higher/more consistant framerate.
XBone has a better, more comfortable controller, though the PS4 one is a lot better than the PS3, where the 360 controller was massively superior.

If all your mates have one or the other, than that should be a consideration.
If you're a particular fan of Halo or Uncharted, or Killzone, or Gears, than that should be a consideration.

EA Access (XBone only) gaks all over that PS "rental" system.
XBone backwards compatibility coming soon is also a significant net positive.

Both decided to be dicks about allowing previous-gen controllers and peripherals to work, right down to a ridiculous incompatibility with Bluetooth headsets.

XBone had some serious missteps early on (TV hub focus, always-on DRM, mandatory Kinect) but these have mostly been rectified.


PS4's user-accessible/upgradeable HDD is a point over the XBone's inaccessible HDD.
however
XBone being able to add external HDD for game content is a point over the PS4's inability to do the same.

On balance, the Xbone's expansion system is a little better. Obviously the ability to do both would be the best. Hopefully Sony can add this via a software update and MS can with the next physical revision/slim.

The XBone's UI is horrible. I'm hopeful the upcoming update will improve it. The PS4 system is better, but still not great.


My personal preference of the two is the PS4, just as it was the 360 of the last generation. Both are still good machines. I still own an Xbone and PS3 however.


The PC obviously has it's good points as well (KBM to start with!), but this thread isn't about that, so PC Master Race gloating is just being dickish. Also, I'll take Batman on PS4 over PC.

 Azazelx wrote:
XBone backwards compatibility coming soon is also a significant net positive.

If you want to play a select set of games at near-slide show frame rate levels.

I've had all kinds of systems throughout the years and have also played on PC's. The PC is superior to all IMO, but the selection is limited for what I like to play. I loved my 360 and adapted to their controller. It took a long time to get used to it. I have the PS4 now and I do like it a lot, but it crashes, re-starts and is a pain in the neck sometimes. My 360 never crashed, it was rock solid. Now that I hear the XB1 is going backward compatible, I'm wanting to go back to that route. If only they (XB) would adapt a PS controller, it would be a no brainer.