For years now I've praised Reaper for having the most diverse line of models out there bar none. Whether you need an Elf ranger, a cowboy, a cow, or a dwarf wereshark Reaper should always be your first port of call.
And with their bones line they have some of cheapest models out as well.
Nonetheless I have to admit sometimes Reaper's blatant pandering annoys even me.
Especially their habit of putting out scantly clad models what would be dead within minutes of entering a dungeon, as if this was a Boris Vallejo calendar cira 1986.
Case in point...
Look at these two, bad enough the bee keeper isn't wearing pants, but the druid isn't even wearing a shirt!
I understand there's a desire to show off their bodies, and hell there's even a historical precedent for going 'skyclad' but I think this is just shameless pandering to our basest instincts.
Again, would it kill Reaper to give that Thief some pants? I mean if you're going to be scaling walls and such the chaffing alone... And I don't even want to think about what having a naked assassin in your room signifies, especially with that suggestively placed knife.
But as I said diversity is a key to their line, the princess has a nice ankle-length gown
And the samurai's kimono is perfectly fine.
And here it's the male ranger who's going around with nothing but a long tunic to protect his modesty, the female ranger is pragmatically dressed with pants, a shirt and jacket.
In all seriousness, this is just a stunning model, I don't know how much is due to the paint job but it is just gorgeous.
I realize that's supposed to be a holy symbol, but my mind keeps seeing a beer can in his hand.
Half-orc paladin.
Half... Orc... Paladin...
Paladin, who is half an orc.
Is this some kind of 5th edition thing?
As far as I know Paladins were human only.
Still just look at him, here's a mini who tells a story of struggling against the rage inside him and his tainted blood and the scorn of his peers to rise above his roots and become a champion of justice.
Wow, I think I just talked myself into playing a half orc paladin someday.
After spending years looking at these pictures, I notice Reaper is now shading their unpainted minis. Cool.
I point this out because I nothing much to say about this guy except wow. He just sells it.
"I've been fighting monsters for 40 years kid and ain't no one gonna tell me to put on no shirt."
Not entirely sure what these are, maybe something from the Fiend Folio or Dragon Magazine.
No, no, no, no. Sir Rathan, your shield goes down, to protect your body, and your sword goes in and point it towards the bad guys. See? Isn't that better?
I didn't spend 20 years at Wizard School to have to wear pants! That's what Bigby's Protection from Minor Chaffing is for!
Good stuff!
I thought the same thing about that rogue. I'd like to see it from other angles
Paladins opened up .. it might've been 3.5? I dunno..
Warforged could be Paladins and had a Prestige Class and everything. Half-Orcs IMO were only good as Paladins if you never planned on being awesome because so much is based on Cha but 1/2 Orc gets a whopping -2 CHA. I am not sure but I believe a lot of the prestige classes had charisma requirements too.
I primarily play 3.x btw.. They very well may be different in 4 or 5e.
Pretty much from 3.0 onwards D&D has allowed any race to be any class. Some combos are just bad ideas from a mechanics standpoint, though, or might have issues with the lore of a given campaign setting. But yeah, "can a half-orc be a paladin?" is now a question for players and DMs to answer, not a rules restriction.
TheWaspinator wrote: Pretty much from 3.0 onwards D&D has allowed any race to be any class. Some combos are just bad ideas from a mechanics standpoint, though, or might have issues with the lore of a given campaign setting. But yeah, "can a half-orc be a paladin?" is now a question for players and DMs to answer, not a rules restriction.
Didn't they at one point also make specific examples..
Like Orcs could be Paladins of Grumsh and Drow Paladins of Lolth etc?
The alignment of the paladin (and any associated god) is a separate issue from their race. As much as assuming all orcs are evil makes for simple moral decisions, it's not exactly realistic for an intelligent species. For evil-aligned paladins, you'd probably be better off being an Antipaladin or whatever equivalent exists in the edition you're playing.
Most of those are from the Dragons Don't Share set, aren't they? I know I saw most of those at the FLGS this weekend. I wonder how long it will take for someone to kitbash a walking rig for the dolphins? The Cetacean Corps needs more recruits!
TheWaspinator wrote: The alignment of the paladin (and any associated god) is a separate issue from their race. As much as assuming all orcs are evil makes for simple moral decisions, it's not exactly realistic for an intelligent species. For evil-aligned paladins, you'd probably be better off being an Antipaladin or whatever equivalent exists in the edition you're playing.
But the problem then is our black and white fantasy game because gray, and you can no longer slaughter orcs in a guilt-free way.
I think one reason zombies have been so popular for so long is that we have few other guilt free targets.
Once upon a time our heroes could slaughter American Indians, crooks or commies without anyone saying a word, but these days we tend to think twice when we see that.
It's not a new thing in fantasy gaming. Characters like Drizzt have been throwing a wrench in the "slaughter those weird people, they're all innately evil" concept for a long time.
Man, I pine for the days of 2nd Edition AD&D, but it's been over 15 years since I last played, and I seriously doubt anyone would bother with 2E even if I cared to find a group!
2E? naw. For me, OD&D or AD&D 1E. But 5E is surprisingly good. If I had a nickel for every time I saw a paladin alignment discussion I'd be richer than D. Trump. I'd have better hair too. Seriously, read about the inspiration for the Paladin class (Charlemagne's 12 Paladins). Then you'll understand. Lawful Good is not at all what everybody thinks it is. (hint: it ain't 20th-21st century morality in any way.)
Interesting stuff. Reaper needs to show more painted versions of their minis.
I always thought 1/2 orcs and 1/2 elves were just dumb. Pandering to the LotR crowd. But I suppose they need minis too.
Oh.. wait.. if she's from Dragons Don't Share.. I already have her!
LOL I wonder how many people are seeing the metal releases for Bones stuff and ordering it not realizing they already have it in Bones.
I'm just now starting to paint all of mine
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Nonetheless I have to admit sometimes Reaper's blatant pandering annoys even me.
Half-orc paladin.
Half...
Orc...
Paladin...
Paladin, who is half an orc.
Is this some kind of 5th edition thing?
The entry for Paladins in the 5th edition Players Manual actually uses artwork of an obvious half-orc very similar to this figure in the example of a paladin. I have not read the book from cover to cover yet, but I have not so far seen any racial limitations on class choices. I think they may have dropped that limitation in 5th edition (I've been out of the loop on D&D for a while)?
Kid_Kyoto wrote: I think one reason zombies have been so popular for so long is that we have few other guilt free targets.
Oh yeah! I absolutely need that half-orc paladin for my character in my group's current campaign. 5e's Oath of the Ancients is a great fit for half-orcs, who don't have a penalty to charisma any more.
Pig-Iron Productions is having to sell off their ranges.
I started a thread in the Reaper forums suggesting they look into acquiring the properties and this was the response.
Reaperbryan Posted Today, 12:35 PM
We are aware of the situation. We are not really at liberty to discuss any particulars.
followed by a locking of the thread.
I don't know if this means anything but it's certainly entertaining to consider. Reaper has long had a shallow selection of Sci-fi and this could be just the injection to the genre that they need if it ends up panning out.
Pig-Iron Productions is having to sell off their ranges.
I started a thread in the Reaper forums suggesting they look into acquiring the properties and this was the response.
Reaperbryan Posted Today, 12:35 PM
We are aware of the situation. We are not really at liberty to discuss any particulars.
followed by a locking of the thread.
I don't know if this means anything but it's certainly entertaining to consider. Reaper has long had a shallow selection of Sci-fi and this could be just the injection to the genre that they need if it ends up panning out.
Pig Iron makes some very nice models in power armor - for a long time I have used them for Brotherhood of Steel in my on again/off again Fallout tabletop RPG.
I hope Reaper gets them - it would be a shame if they went out of production.
And the idea of them in Bonesium makes me hopeful....
If you think about it.. it would open up the doors for a game too.
The factions from Pig-Iron:
Kolony
Rebels
System
Then Reapers'
Bathalians
Nova
and random Mercs
Plus all the zombies and stuff across both ranges.
That said..I'm pretty sure Reaper said (about Warlord) that they felt bad about it because people like the game but they just don't have the resources to do both games and models well so they chose models (entirely paraphrasing from memory so I'm sure I am off).
Maybe if they release a rules set alongside the models.. but not as a forced issue it could help.. or.. it might hurt.. thoughts?
Another way to put it would be that it is a bad fit. I would much rather see it end up with a company that does it right and knows what to do with it, instead of just being purely convenient for some.
BrookM wrote: Another way to put it would be that it is a bad fit. I would much rather see it end up with a company that does it right and knows what to do with it, instead of just being purely convenient for some.
Oh..wow.. not exactly sure what you even mean by that. I suppose it's a good thing you're not making decisions for either of those companies then..
BrookM wrote: Another way to put it would be that it is a bad fit. I would much rather see it end up with a company that does it right and knows what to do with it, instead of just being purely convenient for some.
Reaper has a very strong presence in B&M stores, a growing plastic line and knows how to make metal models.
BrookM wrote: Another way to put it would be that it is a bad fit. I would much rather see it end up with a company that does it right and knows what to do with it, instead of just being purely convenient for some.
Oh..wow.. not exactly sure what you even mean by that.
Then maybe sit down before you hurt yourself, instead of lashing out with insults.
If the rest of the world has to soon deal with rubbish shipping on Pig Iron stuff, that's not fair. It's not something that should give people sleepless nights, but it's not fair. Something that's good for you, or even everyone in the US, is not automatically fair. You saying 'I'm alright Jack and pull up the ladder' does not make it fair. Y'dig?
If you honestly don't know what Brook means by 'a company that does it right', then I'd suggest 'it' involves more equitable shipping policies. E.g. Victoria Miniatures seems to stay afloat on flat worldwide rates, despite any inconveniences.
Yes, thank you Vermis. Victoria Miniatures is indeed an excellent suggestion, not just because she sells models that go with the parts in question, but also because of the amazing shipping fees for ROW, despite being in a corner of the globe that doesn't scream "friendly shipping fees" straight away.
As for Reaper having a strong presence, in the US, sure. But abroad, feth no.
IF reaper acquired Pig-Iron: Would the New line then be called Pig-Bone? Reaper Iron? Pig Reaper? I think Reaper Pig sounds awesome , If they don't use it I will. A Giant Pig/man skeleton wielding an Scythe dressed in a hooded robe. Ticked off for all eternity because the humans devoured his flesh to consume his bacon. I will call him Kevin
So wait.. people are in the Reaper thread trash talking Reaper but I'm the one somehow insulting people? I'm just trying to figure out where the hate is coming from...
This sounds like sour grapes. Reaper has an excellent track record, does fine quality casting, and they actually manage their product lines. They even have miniatures in the Pig-Iron vein of sci-fi. Victoria simply does not.
That said, I don't sit here crying about how Forgeworld, Victoria, West-Wind, Antenociti, Kromlech, Puppetswar, Titanforge, Maxmini, Anvil Industries, Heresy, Hasslefree or any of the other miniature companies I shop with that are not American based. So one line that Europeans have had access to for ages "might" come to America and somehow that's a huge affront to the sensibilities of everyone that isn't from the US? Give me a break.
This thread isn't a place to bash. It's the Reaper News and Rumors thread and there is evidence that I've presented of this rumor. A few of you don't like this sure. The reasoning that Reaper doesn't know what they're doing though? That's pretty weak. It's about the shipping costs.. and that's obvious. So as was suggested.. look at what's good for the product line and not what's convenient for a few. (basically.. back at ya)
MLaw wrote: This sounds like sour grapes. Reaper has an excellent track record, does fine quality casting, and they actually manage their product lines. They even have miniatures in the Pig-Iron vein of sci-fi. Victoria simply does not.
That said, I don't sit here crying about how Forgeworld, Victoria, West-Wind, Antenociti, Kromlech, Puppetswar, Titanforge, Maxmini, Anvil Industries, Heresy, Hasslefree or any of the other miniature companies I shop with that are not American based. So one line that Europeans have had access to for ages "might" come to America and somehow that's a huge affront to the sensibilities of everyone that isn't from the US? Give me a break.
American RoW shipping always seems to be extremely steep compared to shipping from anywhere else in the world; the added kick in the nards of customs charges (for most RoW people) and Parcelforce Tax (for UK buyers) also doesn't help
I think that is the point being made, rather than people having sour grapes over Reaper potentially taking on the line.
Yea, it isn't clear to me why people would blame Reaper for shipping costs to ROW. I am not entirely sure why shipping is so much more expensive in the past few years (outside of customs/taxes specific to the country) but I am pretty sure it is something every company deals with. Getting stuff from Europe to the US is really expensive too; it just seems to be the way of it now.
Not to mention the fact that Reaper is carried in many stores in Europe, so it shouldn't be a problem to order from a (relatively) local seller that won't have to deal with a large shipping fee.
Probably because unlike most other US mini/games companies (of any significant size) there is very little of their stuff available in Europe as it's just not distributed
unlike WoTC, CMON, FFG (now part of asmodee, but before), etc
(although miniature heroes in the UK does import from them direct)
now exactly why I'm not sure, it could be the distributors just don't think Reaper stuff will sell (there's far less D&D/pathfinder over here and a lot of their releases are geared to that market),
or it could be that reaper does not offer terms that are attractive enough to the distributors and prefer to work direct (but they do get distributed in the US)
so it's probably a combination of the two,
but it adds up to neat stuff we see online and have difficulty getting leading to resentment
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: Probably because unlike most other US mini/games companies (of any significant size) there is very little of their stuff available in Europe as it's just not distributed
unlike WoTC, CMON, FFG (now part of asmodee, but before), etc
(although miniature heroes in the UK does import from them direct)
now exactly why I'm not sure, it could be the distributors just don't think Reaper stuff will sell (there's far less D&D/pathfinder over here and a lot of their releases are geared to that market),
or it could be that reaper does not offer terms that are attractive enough to the distributors and prefer to work direct (but they do get distributed in the US)
so it's probably a combination of the two,
but it adds up to neat stuff we see online and have difficulty getting leading to resentment
When you say "difficulty" what that really means is paying for shipping. It is not cool.. I know...
Trying to build the Killzone army in my link, as an American, I've paid almost as much for shipping as I have for the pieces on a model per model basis. The kits purchased are almost entirely from outside the US and each model is comprised of resin bits as there are no complete kits used for any of it. So I'm paying shipping for: Heads, Arms, Torsos, Legs, Weapons, Accessories, Bases, etc individually.. all overseas (barring the Mad Robot stuff and Dreamforge/WGF kits). When I order a $10 pack of heads and have to pay $5 in shipping.. against an exchange rate that does not favor my native currency.. yes.. that is a difficulty. This is a hobby though and unless I can convince someone on this side of the world to stock all of those wonderful kits, I have to accept that getting the pieces for my little army men is an expensive and time consuming process. I wish it weren't the case for any of us, but that is the nature of international business.
Ordering direct from outside to the EU to delivery inside the EU attracts shipping fees (which can be very high), an additional 20% added to the combined cost of the items + shipping, potentially another 5% added on top of this as import duty if the total is high enough, and a fixed £8 handling fee by the local carrier. In addition, because these parcels are held for duty, you typically don't get them delivered to your home - they are held at a local post office until you stump up the fees.
It is utterly prohibitive, but only Reaper's "fault" insofar as they have expressed no interest in setting up international distribution, which I think is a shame.
Not just shipping fees but a combination of what they sell how i'd like to buy it and shipping fees/taxes
Reapers stuff is the sort of thing i'd like to buy one or two at a time (their releases tend to be scattergun) thrown in with an order for other stuff at a store of internet retailer
the shipping and taxes would be more palatable if I was buying a box game for $100 rather than a couple of packs of bones kobolds
totally not their fault (I do buy from them occasionally), but frustrating none the less
Yep. We had some internationals unhappy during Reaper's KS3 that they were paying "actual shipping costs" from the US rather than Reaper using international fulfillment. Reaper said the costs of fulfillment (some services charge $1 per item added) were too high, so they pack and ship everything from their warehouse. Reaper's run by accountants, so I guess they've looked at the numbers and went with what works best for them. Postal and thus courier rates have been rising in the US (two increases in the last year), and I imagine this is affecting all small US businesses pretty badly. This should be bad for KS, since backers are still looking for last year's bargains, but creators need to be wary of further shipping increases.
I hope, though, that this creates opportunities for miniature companies overseas. UK, of course, has a long-standing miniature industry, and I've been seeing miniature KS from Spain, Poland, and even Argentina. I've also been seeing various 3D KS projects, so hope quality affordable 3D printers appear in the near future, so we don't have to pay *any* shipping costs!
First off we have a sommelier with his trusty champagne-saber and tasting goblet.
He can also be used to rep a Maitre 'D with a quick hand swap or even a butler.
Reaper also continues its line of angels, this time with the Angel of Plenty who descends from heaven to help carve your Easter feast with her twin knives.
She is joined by the Angel of Protection who appears to lonely shepherds and goat herders offering them comfort in their lonely vigils. he can also shape shift into a goat or sheep as required.
I'm not entirely sure which angel this is, perhaps the angel of dieting? or perhaps the Angel of Scratch Building Figures From Your Bits Box?
What it may be it's sure to inspire and protect your PCs on their dangerous quests.
Then we have an evil anti-Paladin with her wicked spiked sword and stylized chaos star on her armor.
And finally a noble philosopher-king with his crown of wisdom and his shepherd's crook looking to guide the innocents to the path of rightousness. Great sculpt I would just argue he's a bit thin, but I guess it's from all the fasting and meditating.
Anyway another great lot of figures, can't wait to see what Reaper has for us next.
So many Castlevania references I'd like to make about this one.
"You seem human, and yet, what do you here?"
"It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was summoned here by HUMANS who wished to pay me tribute!"
And so on.
ced1106 wrote: Oh, and I'm posting here because *this* is what appeared in Reaper's KS3 update! I already have two Dagon sculpts, but here's a whole lotta Deep One for $20!
That's a beautiful looking model, and what a price!
I'm generally not a huge fan of Reaper Bones. Most of the time I'd rather buy the metal version of the figure since I'm generally buying one at a time the price difference of a couple dollars does not matter to me.
Its big stuff like this, however, where the price difference starts to matter. The weight difference becomes significant, too, both in working on the figure and potentially transporting it.
I like the figure itself. Nice pose and some interesting details on the clothing. The Batman cape kinda detracts from that, tough. Is it a one-piece casting, or could we omit or replace the cape?
Reaper also continues its line of angels, this time with the Angel of Plenty who descends from heaven to help carve your Easter feast with her twin knives.
Heh! A nice enough figure, although Reaper does have a number of similar bat winged females already.
I'm not entirely sure which angel this is, perhaps the angel of dieting? or perhaps the Angel of Scratch Building Figures From Your Bits Box?
I'm a sucker for something different, so I like this miniature. A bone demon or devil, perhaps?
Then we have an evil anti-Paladin with her wicked spiked sword and stylized chaos star on her armor.
Evil always has the best stuff! A really nice female fighter that's sure to make her way to my painting table.
And finally a noble philosopher-king with his crown of wisdom and his shepherd's crook looking to guide the innocents to the path of rightousness. Great sculpt I would just argue he's a bit thin, but I guess it's from all the fasting and meditating.
Again, nothing really new here, but a very nicely sculpted figure in a great pose. I'll have to add him to my collection.
How have they been disappointments? Just curious, since I come to the hobby from another direction.
Bones has really blown open the hobby for me, in that I can paint them with my son and then he can play with them. Tre's gnolls and bugbears are our favorite human sized minis, and the large monsters are almost all great casts of decent to great sculpts.
I still prefer assembling HIPS minis, but Bones delivers a ton of fun minis at impulse buy pricing.
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Polonius wrote: I like the idea, it's just kind of an awkward pose. I doubt those are the most flattering possible paintjobs for the models either.
Well, yeah, the pose screams "lazily designed to be cast in metal". So, it's aimed at the old hammer crowd?
Both Bones and Metal have their uses. Metal for small and/or spindly stuff. Bones for large monsters (or something youll not use more than once or twice). Cant get my head around human sized Bones stuff though. Just seems kind of... eh.
Oh, look. Another fully clothed male followed by a nearly naked female.
N/M. The next two pics have naked men to even things out.
Anyway, Bones miniatures *are* aimed towards market like Bob. Reaper's said that many RPG'ers will buy Bones and play with them without painting. This is a *large* audience, and enabled Reaper to cast more monster miniatures than they did in metal. This includes larger monsters, which would not sell in RPG quantity as metal at over $30+ per miniature -- no GM is going to pay $150 for a hill giant encounter. With Reaper headed by accountants, I'm guessing the human-sized mini's are popular according to their sales numbers.
Yeah, Bones is pretty obviously designed as a D&D/Pathfinder line, not a large-scale wargaming line. It still produces a lot of stuff that's good for that use, though.
I'd like to see a non-painted version. The paint job on that is pretty mediocre so I suspect it is creating some flaws. Then again, it is sort of a meh model aesthetically to begin with, so I am not expecting much overall.
Might want to ask again on the Reaper forums (: but that project's (Legendary Encounters?) been pushed back with no date announced (?).
Reaper's working with the Conan prepainted miniatures game (remember that KS a few months ago?) and I'm not sure which prepainted figures they're going to KS first.
Red Harvest wrote: 2E? naw. For me, OD&D or AD&D 1E. But 5E is surprisingly good. If I had a nickel for every time I saw a paladin alignment discussion I'd be richer than D. Trump. I'd have better hair too. Seriously, read about the inspiration for the Paladin class (Charlemagne's 12 Paladins). Then you'll understand. Lawful Good is not at all what everybody thinks it is. (hint: it ain't 20th-21st century morality in any way.)
Interesting stuff. Reaper needs to show more painted versions of their minis.
I always thought 1/2 orcs and 1/2 elves were just dumb. Pandering to the LotR crowd. But I suppose they need minis too.
why is it dumb? and howis it pandering to LOTR fans? Are there any half orcs/elves in LOTR?
No Half Orcs, But Elrond and his brother Elros were Half-Elven. Also a few more from the Silmarillion. But they were not a race in LotR. They typically had to choose to be elven or human. Half Elves as a race is a DnD thing.
First off there's a whole group of figures that, really are just in bad taste. Exploitive and unrealistic, skinny aneroxic bodies with skimpy outfits, bare midriffs or sometimes wearing nothing at all.
Honestly it's stuff like this that makes this hobby embarassing for men and women.
Spoiler:
Next is a line of personifications of the seasons, in this case winter. Which for some reason they released in April...
I expect the other seasons such as Hot, Monsoon and Pollution will follow in time.
Next up they have an Anti-Paladin.
Am I the only one annoyed that in the English language with all it's kajillions of words and more being added all the time, no one has thought of a better word then Anti-Paladin?
Here we have one of the classic monsters from the lower plains, if I recall correctly this one is called a Hook Horror.
And finally something a little different.
An elf! With a bow!
But that's not the different part, it's a bas relief rather than a model. I wonder if Reaper/Hobby Q is trying out a new market? Odd subject to go with though. A unicorn or dragon would have more mainstream appeal. Maybe it's just an artist's whim and a one-off.
Am I the only one annoyed that in the English language with all it's kajillions of words and more being added all the time, no one has thought of a better word then Anti-Paladin?
Try Blackguard. Or Villain. Even better, Donald Trump, or Hilary Clinton.
Here we have one of the classic monsters from the lower plains, if I recall correctly this one is called a Hook Horror.
I think it might be an ice devil.
That is some nice paint work on the folds of "Winter's" gown. And on the maybe ice devil.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: And they are back with more models and more METAL
First off there's a whole group of figures that, really are just in bad taste. Exploitive and unrealistic, skinny aneroxic bodies with skimpy outfits, bare midriffs or sometimes wearing nothing at all.
Honestly it's stuff like this that makes this hobby embarassing for men and women.
Spoiler:
You can't blame them really. Apparently, skeletons without clothes outsell clothed ones 4:1 according to industry representatives. Reaper's just listening to the market.
Their Spirit of Winter figure is followed by the Spirit of Spring
I'm not really feeling this series but she's a nice looking model if you need a peasant girl sort of thing.
I won't ask why she's pulling up her dress. This is a family board after all.
Honestly I don't like it, this sort of undead figure always leaves me aghast.
Remember in the old Dungeons and Dragons Cartoon Venger had the Shadow Demon as his side kick. That was a great idea, just a shadow who'd spy on the kids (to justify why Venger showed up) then reported back to his boss so Venger would have someone to monologue/exposite to.
Well this doesn't look anything like that guy. Cool model though.
Say... anyone making a board game that needs some bird men?
And finally... a mother's day Mousing.
Awww...
Though if I were buying I'd go with this one
Y'know, if Mother's Day wasn't a week ago or whatever.
Mother's day is on different days in differrent parts of the world though. They have missed the american date (and most other nation's) but there's still time left before mother's day in Sweden, Senegal, Costa Rica, South Sudan and many more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother%27s_Day#Dates_around_the_world
Zywus wrote: Mother's day is on different days in differrent parts of the world though. They have missed the american date (and most other nation's) but there's still time left before mother's day in Sweden, Senegal, Costa Rica, South Sudan and many more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother%27s_Day#Dates_around_the_world
Hey South Sudan Dakkites have I got a great model for you!
Zywus wrote: Mother's day is on different days in differrent parts of the world though. They have missed the american date (and most other nation's) but there's still time left before mother's day in Sweden, Senegal, Costa Rica, South Sudan and many more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother%27s_Day#Dates_around_the_world
Hey South Sudan Dakkites have I got a great model for you!
Especially if their mother was a gamer , but they have that niche, niche, niche mousling market covered, no wonder GW doesn't try and compete against them.
A lot of this stuff is definitely from the Bones II Kickstarter, but now in metal.
I backed Bones II and Bones III, and was one of the aforementioned mildly grumpy international backers on III. But the deal's so good, you just have to go for it really.
Don't they do free worldwide shipping on non-KS stuff over a certain $ value, anyway? I think they did last time I looked.
Anyway. Bones, to my mind, is a superb material for minis. It's cheap, and it's a joy to paint. I don't quite know how much of the latter point is due to its cheapness, and how much is a property of the material. But it's lovely to know that that enormous monster you're painting only cost you $3 in a Kickstarter instead of $30+ in a fancy resin kit. No worries if you mess up the paint job a little. As others have said, it's particularly good as stuff to paint with younger or less experienced painters.
We start off with some new Savage Worlds cowpersons.
I like this witch hunter a lot and can see it joining my other =I= Witch Hunters. Or, more properly, the other unpainted Reaper Witch Hunters sitting in a box somewhere. Let's be realistic here.
This witch hunter however, I mean, what is she supposed to be doing? To me her body language says "Hey Steve I think I found a witch here! No! Wait! What are you doing with that wand! No! No! I don't want to be a frog! I hate warts!" My point being, she's not really selling the whole 'call on me to hunt witches thing' as well as she could.
While these two Masked Crusaders do pull it off. Hard to pull off a face mask and a bun but she does it. The gattling revolver helps.
Cowgirl. If for some reason you need a cowgirl.
Why is he holding one of those question mark swords from Game of Thrones? Are those like a thing now? There's one in the Frostgrave Cultist set too.
Then we have a mini line of off-beat spell casters, mesmerist, spiritualist, medium (not so good, not so bad, just medium) and so on. I imagine the names mean something to a Pathfinder player but nothing to me. Neat figures though, I really like the guy with cards and the old dude with the headache.
We also get a new spirit. It was originally going to be a knight, but after finishing the top half the sculptor went out for a few beers and one thing led to another and there was a deadline and bang, now he's a spirit.
Half-Ogre Fighter, though why he only fights half ogres I don't know. I mean come on, would it kill you fight some full ogres?
Answer, yes. It probably would kill him.
Goblins. Nice designs, reminds me of the original Hobbit cartoon. But I'd probably wait for bones, goblins aren't really a monster you use 2 or 3 of. More like 20-30.
Elf wizard. I was wondering about its gender then I remembered it was an elf and probably doesn't matter.
I actually ordered this one to join my mountain of shame. It's a nice mini.
Some new bones. We've seen these in metal before, the mom might be a good one if you want to do a civilian hoard otherwise these are character models and I'd want to get them in metal. In fact I think I have the wizard chick in metal. Somewhere. Unpainted and unloved.
OK, this is just weird, a Steampunk Witch. I guess it's a natural release with the witch hunting cowboys.
So there we are.
The CAV bones also came out, but I think there's a thread somewhere. But if you need your Giant Stompy Robot itch scratched at attractive prices this is worth checking out.
Not really my thing, just not a fan of the designs, but I do like the A-10 plane.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: But that's not the different part, it's a bas relief rather than a model. I wonder if Reaper/Hobby Q is trying out a new market? Odd subject to go with though. A unicorn or dragon would have more mainstream appeal. Maybe it's just an artist's whim and a one-off.
Is it two sided? That actually used to be a thing back in early days of collectable tin soldiers. They were referred to as "flats" by military miniatures collectors. I think there are still one or two companies in Europe that still make them.
Pass. After working with a few Bones miniatures, I've decided to stick with metal on human size 28mm figures. Bones it nice for big monsters, giants, and dragons where the cost and weight savings is significant. I just don't like it for normal sized figures, though.
Have to say, the pistols are awful in that last batch. Absurdly oversized. The khopesh is also a flagrant offender in looking more like a bludgeoning instrument for a 54mm figure than a cutting weapon. Actual khopesh is a blade less than 2 feet long. Maybe the sculptor confused it with shotels, which can be up to about 40 inches long? Still doesn't explain why it looks like a bent 2x4.
I really like the metals. The Bones I already own, and they are ok. Most were a little lean in the nose department, but I am told that is something that got fixed lately.
Thunderfrog wrote: How big are those planes? GW sized planes? Dropzone commander sized planes?
Thanks.
Dropzone commander sized. The Kraken looks really good, but the A-10's tail is always warped in the blister. I suppose you could cut off the tail and call it a VTOL gunship. Reaper also sells a variety of Bones tanks and recon vehicles with 6 wheels that would fit in nicely in all of the human armies.
jmurph wrote: The khopesh is also a flagrant offender in looking more like a bludgeoning instrument for a 54mm figure than a cutting weapon. Actual khopesh is a blade less than 2 feet long. Maybe the sculptor confused it with shotels, which can be up to about 40 inches long? Still doesn't explain why it looks like a bent 2x4.
I have no idea what this post means, it's like you're speaking Egyptian or something.
A khopesh is a type of spicy salad and meat sandwich, usually made with a pastrami style beef in modern times as most Egyptians follow the Islamic faith.
A shotel is like a hotel for ships, just like a motel is a hotel for motor vehicles. In contemporary Bedouin parlance it's specifically a hotel that has camel stabling facilities, due to the term "ship of the desert".
A bent 2x4 is code for infinity, as 2x4 = 8 and if you bend the 8 over it looks like an infinity sign.
So basically if you buy a Reaper Cowboy and show your proof of purchase at any desert hotel, you can get infinite refills on your kebab sandwich.
Ian Sturrock wrote: A khopesh is a type of spicy salad and meat sandwich, usually made with a pastrami style beef in modern times as most Egyptians follow the Islamic faith.
A shotel is like a hotel for ships, just like a motel is a hotel for motor vehicles. In contemporary Bedouin parlance it's specifically a hotel that has camel stabling facilities, due to the term "ship of the desert".
A bent 2x4 is code for infinity, as 2x4 = 8 and if you bend the 8 over it looks like an infinity sign.
So basically if you buy a Reaper Cowboy and show your proof of purchase at any desert hotel, you can get infinite refills on your kebab sandwich.
Ian Sturrock wrote: A khopesh is a type of spicy salad and meat sandwich, usually made with a pastrami style beef in modern times as most Egyptians follow the Islamic faith.
A shotel is like a hotel for ships, just like a motel is a hotel for motor vehicles. In contemporary Bedouin parlance it's specifically a hotel that has camel stabling facilities, due to the term "ship of the desert".
A bent 2x4 is code for infinity, as 2x4 = 8 and if you bend the 8 over it looks like an infinity sign.
So basically if you buy a Reaper Cowboy and show your proof of purchase at any desert hotel, you can get infinite refills on your kebab sandwich.
TheWaspinator wrote: Pretty much from 3.0 onwards D&D has allowed any race to be any class. Some combos are just bad ideas from a mechanics standpoint, though, or might have issues with the lore of a given campaign setting. But yeah, "can a half-orc be a paladin?" is now a question for players and DMs to answer, not a rules restriction.
Paladins were Human only in 2e core... But some books broke that rule. One major example I can think of is that Dragonlance allowed Dwarf Paladins, but this was covered in the Monstrous Manual appendix for Dragonlance, which curiously had character race info stuffed in it. There were a few other exceptions, too, but it was 3e that broke down race/class restrictions for base classes (Prestige classes might be pickier).
5 dumped alignment restrictions in core as well, something that I think 3e left to expansion books. Current 5e paladins on't even really need a patron deity, although they may pick one. The big new thing is picking a Vow from a list, which could mean several things.
Paladins were Human only in 2e core... But some books broke that rule. One major example I can think of is that Dragonlance allowed Dwarf Paladins, but this was covered in the Monstrous Manual appendix for Dragonlance, which curiously had character race info stuffed in it. There were a few other exceptions, too, but it was 3e that broke down race/class restrictions for base classes (Prestige classes might be pickier).
Complete Book of Humanoids also introduced the Saurials who could be paladins, following the Azure Bonds novel.
I don't need more bases, so someone else should maintain the Reaper Base Boss KS thread on Dakka.
Starts on the 26th.
As I understand it, the background is that Reaper bought a plastic injection machine with the first Bones KS profits, and some backers then assumed *all* the Bones would be made domestically. Reaper then said they were only able to make bases with the machine. I assume now that they're really really able to make bases, they need funding to pay for the various molds they're using.
These are really puzzling designs. Your average 30mm wide lip has almost a 25mm center, so any 30mm base insert wont really fit in their 21mm spots. It looks like there's a lot of top surface area to bevel, so given the wide legged stance of most minis (including their own brocoli based figs), your average man sized figure wont fit on a 25mm base without issue (as if they werent already overhanging). What uses 130mm round bases instead of 120mm? You can already get plain black bases dirt cheap, and I doubt they can compete price wise with China in that regards.
If they are going to tool something, why not make a 30mm base with a deep 25mm recess, where you could use a 25mm base as a topper?
Been made in USA from the start, without the need to raise $8,000,000 from China first, or ask customers to loan me money for all my upfront costs.
20mm rounds have been available for years. 40 in a pack for $4.50.
Same price as retail, as I do not want to screw my wholesale customers.
Yes, I know I am being a jerk and expect to be attacked. But frankly I think it takes huge balls to wrap yourself in the flag, fireworks, and eagle AFTER you sold out and went to China.
I checked your link. Thanks? Anyway, this is all I could find in terms of 28mm infantry:
Besides, Reaper is known for their hundreds, if not thousands, of fantasy miniatures. Miniatures used in D&D and other role playing games, in addition to dioramas and such.
Most of what I see on Proxiemodels is the one unit of military dudes (below average compared to other mini companies), some OK scenery, and trucks/tanks.
It is entirely possible he's calling attention to the fact that Reaper's offerings in the bases KS are by no means unique, or praiseworthy. Proxie sells 40 20mm round bases for $4.50 et cetera. This is merely a theory on my part.
I see Ken's point. Bought more than my fair share of bases from him. Planning on doing so as soon as I run out of them for my current project.
I like that they're locally grown here in the States. I like the prices. I like the selection.
For a big company like Reaper to want me to commit money up front for a similar product that I can already get at very reasonable prices with relatively little turnaround time, IMMEDIATELY, it's got to be one heck of a sweeter deal than it currently is on offer.
He means that bases like they are making are already available, produced in the USA. There are some sizes in Reaper's KS that Proxie doesnt have, but in general, this is a pretty boring KS with the option to save a tiny amount by buying a product already available 6 months in advance.
It is entirely possible he's calling attention to the fact that Reaper's offerings in the bases KS are by no means unique, or praiseworthy. Proxie sells 40 20mm round bases for $4.50 et cetera. This is merely a theory on my part.
Ah, it's all about the base, the base, no minis.
That's fine to gripe about, I guess. I'm personally not interested at all in Reaper's bases. I use GW and Secret Weapon Miniatures resin bases for my 40k minis and my Reaper D&D minis.
Been made in USA from the start, without the need to raise $8,000,000 from China first, or ask customers to loan me money for all my upfront costs.
20mm rounds have been available for years. 40 in a pack for $4.50.
Same price as retail, as I do not want to screw my wholesale customers.
Yes, I know I am being a jerk and expect to be attacked. But frankly I think it takes huge balls to wrap yourself in the flag, fireworks, and eagle AFTER you sold out and went to China.
I'm a customer of yours and will continue to be one when I need new bases, or when you finish your next kit. However, I'm not on the same page with you attacking Reaper for manufacturing in China. Pointing out that you already make bases at great prices is one thing. Pointing out Reaper is almost Mantic levels of Kickstarter-happy is another. Calling them sell outs for using their only real manufacturing option to release their Bones ranges is too far for me. They are using Chinese factories, the same way 90% of miniatures companies do, because otherwise they could not make a product worth selling at a price people would pay for it.
I don't see the bases KS doing well at all. When I need bases, it's because I need them right away, and I buy them right away. The cost is generally so low as to be almost negligible. There is not really any discount that could induce me to want to wait a year to receive my bases. I've no idea what bases I will need in a year's time. I don't know any wargamers who do, really.
The point of my post, which I admit is ill advised and sure to piss people off, was to point out that the kick starter clearly is trying to play up the made in USA aspect. Which is fine, but it needs to be mentioned that a huge amount of stuff made by Reaper came via China. I got a little upset seeing all the patriotic imagery and posted when I should have counted to 1000.
Proxie Models is just a one person part time shop in my back yard. I have no intention or delusions of grandeur to aspire to be like Reaper. Frankly it keeps me very busy just making stuff and working my regular job.
I apologize to Reaper for any harm I may have caused. I simply loved Reaper minis for years and have a huge collection. When they went to China it left me feeling more than a little down. Of course when my own factory outsourced whole departments to Mexico it was a bit of a bummer as well.
This issue is going to continue to impact more and more people over time, but as of now gamers are just delighted to have loads of cheap stuff. Thankfully I am retired in 3 years and my future is pretty safe.
Kudos to Reaper for making some stuff in the USA. Even though it is going to kill my own business, it is a step in the right direction.
I would like to point out one new aspect of this issue. Chinese retailers are selling more and more directly on e-bay and Amazon. By-passing the importers. I do not know how but they are getting subsidized shipping. It costs less to ship from China than it does to ship across your own state. This is going to start cutting a lot of people soon.
I feel sorry for the young people. You are faced with a future of huge student loans, massive taxes, and jobs as temps.
Ian Sturrock wrote: I don't see the bases KS doing well at all. When I need bases, it's because I need them right away, and I buy them right away. The cost is generally so low as to be almost negligible. There is not really any discount that could induce me to want to wait a year to receive my bases. I've no idea what bases I will need in a year's time. I don't know any wargamers who do, really.
I actually kind of like the idea, but pitching a kickstarter for a grabbag of bases for future projects might be the least sexy kickstarter ever.
Not to sound overly dramatic, but a kickstarter to allow a fairly major company to start production of a product identical to products already on the market might be the final moment when Kickstarter is fully a loan/preorder platform.
The point of my post, which I admit is ill advised and sure to piss people off, was to point out that the kick starter clearly is trying to play up the made in USA aspect. Which is fine, but it needs to be mentioned that a huge amount of stuff made by Reaper came via China. I got a little upset seeing all the patriotic imagery and posted when I should have counted to 1000.
So you're upset that Reaper is advertising a product that is made in the USA as being made in the USA, because they have different products made in China?
So you're upset that Reaper is advertising a product that is made in the USA as being made in the USA, because they have different products made in China?
This is a deliberate attempt to alter the meaning by re-phrasing.
No, it is not what I mean. Or meant.
I think I best keep my mouth shut and fade back in to the corner.
There is a reason why I try to stay off forums- it is a no win situation.
Again I apologize for my negative comments. I would like to wish them luck in any future endeavors.
So you're upset that Reaper is advertising a product that is made in the USA as being made in the USA, because they have different products made in China?
I think I best keep my mouth shut and fade back in to the corner.
There is a reason why I try to stay off forums- it is a no win situation.
It would be an instant win if those Amazons showed up!
kenofyork wrote: There is a reason why I try to stay off forums- it is a no win situation.
Not really. I think you could have dropped a line saying that you currently make a range of plastic bases in the US, and that if people are interested, you can ship them immediately.
You can gain positive notice for your business by stressing what's positive about it.
If you show up as a business owner critiquing, even fairly, another business owner, it comes off as drama, and people love drama.
Looking at your first post, even if you had just kept off the last line, you would come off as fun and snarky rather than bitter.
Also, it should be pretty apparent that if you find yourself adding the line "I know I am being a jerk and expect to be attacked" than you should absolutely rephrase what you are saying, unless being attacked is what you want.
We've never met, but I'm friends with people that have done business with you, and I totally get why this would be frustrating to you. There's probably a better place to let it all out.
So you're upset that Reaper is advertising a product that is made in the USA as being made in the USA, because they have different products made in China?
This is a deliberate attempt to alter the meaning by re-phrasing.
No, it is not what I mean. Or meant.
Huh. Because that's exactly what it sounds like. Not sure what other meaning you're trying to convey.
kenofyork wrote: There is a reason why I try to stay off forums- it is a no win situation.
Not really. I think you could have dropped a line saying that you currently make a range of plastic bases in the US, and that if people are interested, you can ship them immediately.
You can gain positive notice for your business by stressing what's positive about it.
Agreed on this.
I had no idea you existed, and now I know where I can get bases, should the need arise.
Again, I prefer Secret Weapon Miniatures sculpted resin bases so that my 40k armies are uniform and fething awesome, so the Reaper ones don't do ANYTHING for me.
The point of my post, which I admit is ill advised and sure to piss people off, was to point out that the kick starter clearly is trying to play up the made in USA aspect. Which is fine, but it needs to be mentioned that a huge amount of stuff made by Reaper came via China. I got a little upset seeing all the patriotic imagery and posted when I should have counted to 1000.
Yes it was, and yes it did - you turned what could have been a selling point into a reason to avoid Proxie Models.
Until your post, I had never heard of Proxie - and now the only reference that I have is a negative one. (I am fighting down the urge to make sarcastic remarks.)
Proxie Models is just a one person part time shop in my back yard. I have no intention or delusions of grandeur to aspire to be like Reaper. Frankly it keeps me very busy just making stuff and working my regular job.
I apologize to Reaper for any harm I may have caused. I simply loved Reaper minis for years and have a huge collection. When they went to China it left me feeling more than a little down. Of course when my own factory outsourced whole departments to Mexico it was a bit of a bummer as well.
This issue is going to continue to impact more and more people over time, but as of now gamers are just delighted to have loads of cheap stuff. Thankfully I am retired in 3 years and my future is pretty safe.
Kudos to Reaper for making some stuff in the USA. Even though it is going to kill my own business, it is a step in the right direction.
I would like to point out one new aspect of this issue. Chinese retailers are selling more and more directly on e-bay and Amazon. By-passing the importers. I do not know how but they are getting subsidized shipping. It costs less to ship from China than it does to ship across your own state. This is going to start cutting a lot of people soon.
I feel sorry for the young people. You are faced with a future of huge student loans, massive taxes, and jobs as temps.
And then you go back to the attack, this time from the oblique.
Yeah, Proxie will not be seeing my business any time soon.
On topic, I'm not excited about the base kickstarter. The only bases that I'd actually be interested in buying cheap bulk at this point are the oval ones, but 40K uses soo many different sizes at this point I'm not even shure which ones I would use.
Anyone know what oval base, from the kickstarter, would be appropriate for 40K bike sized models ?
I've got about 20 custom ork bikes, on my to do list, that could use bases.
GW has given up any attempt at standardizing basing and now it's far to late to introduce something like that. Especially for bikes, which is probably the troop type in 40K that has been the most eclectically based of all.
We've seen everything from 25x50 squares, 50mm rounds, at least like three different types of oval bases, no bases etc. GW will never make any ruling on that, and I don't think any tournament will be able to either since people have models based all kind of different ways. As long as someone isn't obviously attempting to get a unreasonable advantage it'll be fine.
Just get whatever oval base is a good fit for the bike models. For the new Ork bikes I'd say around 60-70mm long and 40mm wide should fit well, and give you some space for scenery, rocks or whatever you use to base.
So you're upset that Reaper is advertising a product that is made in the USA as being made in the USA, because they have different products made in China?
This is a deliberate attempt to alter the meaning by re-phrasing.
No, it is not what I mean. Or meant.
Huh. Because that's exactly what it sounds like. Not sure what other meaning you're trying to convey.
I like most of your posts. I know you aren't daft.
Seems fairly obvious, from his own posting, that he felt like (at the time of his posting) that any company who has a large part of it's process in China is being dishonorable/fake/disingenuous by making an advertisement covered in pro-america imagery. He also said, "I should have counted to 1000 and thought about it instead of posting right away."
Stop busting his balls to be internet tough. He posted how he felt, explained it, then explained he was going to back off that position because he didn't think it through.
On point,
My local store stocks Reaper stuff, including bases, fairly regularly. This can only be good for me, as I'm about to finally start rebasing my fantasy to rounds for sigmar. More people making more things that aren't GW is always a win in my book.
So you're upset that Reaper is advertising a product that is made in the USA as being made in the USA, because they have different products made in China?
This is a deliberate attempt to alter the meaning by re-phrasing.
No, it is not what I mean. Or meant.
Huh. Because that's exactly what it sounds like. Not sure what other meaning you're trying to convey.
I like most of your posts. I know you aren't daft.
Seems fairly obvious, from his own posting, that he felt like (at the time of his posting) that any company who has a large part of it's process in China is being dishonorable/fake/disingenuous by making an advertisement covered in pro-america imagery. He also said, "I should have counted to 1000 and thought about it instead of posting right away."
Stop busting his balls to be internet tough. He posted how he felt, explained it, then explained he was going to back off that position because he didn't think it through.
On point,
My local store stocks Reaper stuff, including bases, fairly regularly. This can only be good for me, as I'm about to finally start rebasing my fantasy to rounds for sigmar. More people making more things that aren't GW is always a win in my book.
He posted in a thread about another company - in other words, he was being 'internet tough'.
And his reply continued to try to make that same point from the oblique, thinly disguised as an apology - so he can go hang.
On topic - one thing that I do not see in the list of bases - Unit bases/movement trays/diorama bases. Large bases that can be used to mount entire units or build small dioramas. (I play Kings of War....)
Reaper has stated that they won't be making scenic bases, feeling that Secret Weapon and other companies are doing well in that market.
If the bases are like the ones included in Bones 2, they will be very plain. Vanilla plain. Bagel with butter plain. Vice presidential. Positioned only for missionaries.
And it strikes me as odd that one set of bases can stand out among plastic bases for being the unexciting option.
There are more than one place already selling such in plastic even (not to mention how easy they are to cut out from plasticard). And there's approximately a million additional places that sell them in custom sizes if you're ok with MDF.
Why pay in advance and wait for months for something you can buy or easily make yourself today?
Round and oval bases are a different matter as they're not nearly as easy to construct yourself.
jmurph wrote: Hrm. It seems the trend for Reaper has been progressively less exciting Kickstarters, and now we are at bases. Plain bases.
I really don't see what this offers as there are cheap plain bases widely available.
I said it earlier, but the backstory is that Reaper used profits from their first KS to buy a plastic injection machine. Some backers then complained why Reaper wasn't then manufacturing all its Bones miniatures in the USA, and have been saying this for years. Reaper replied that, with only one machine, they couldn't do this in a reasonable amount of time (something like over five years with one machine). What Reaper has been doing is making bases with their in-house machine, for at least several months already.
Plastic bases are no different than plastic miniatures. They require metal molds, and these molds cost money. Some of the bases *are* new, and the new molds must be paid for. Reaper knows they can run a KS, so, if it's a better option than the traditional retailer-distributor model made in the 1940's, then, sure, why not. AFAIK, They've finished up fulfilling the CAV KS, and are waiting on China for the plastic Bones miniatures. So they have a "hole" in their schedule.
Given Dakka's international audience, I don't like the jingoism, either. It's not until you look at the video do you realize they're doing a parody of the inside joke about their plastic injection machine. They do realize that bases are boring, so are also running a contest of silly things you can do with bases:
Spoiler:
Here's what Reaper (and many other manufacturers) think of the traditional retailer-distributor model, btw.
I would like to see reaper jump on the alternative WW2 timeline bandwagon, they could make some nice alternative miniatures. Every now and then i buy some reaper stuff but mostly the SF ones.
jmurph wrote: Hrm. It seems the trend for Reaper has been progressively less exciting Kickstarters, and now we are at bases. Plain bases.
I really don't see what this offers as there are cheap plain bases widely available.
I said it earlier, but the backstory is that Reaper used profits from their first KS to buy a plastic injection machine. Some backers then complained why Reaper wasn't then manufacturing all its Bones miniatures in the USA, and have been saying this for years. Reaper replied that, with only one machine, they couldn't do this in a reasonable amount of time (something like over five years with one machine). What Reaper has been doing is making bases with their in-house machine, for at least several months already.
Plastic bases are no different than plastic miniatures. They require metal molds, and these molds cost money. Some of the bases *are* new, and the new molds must be paid for. Reaper knows they can run a KS, so, if it's a better option than the traditional retailer-distributor model made in the 1940's, then, sure, why not. AFAIK, They've finished up fulfilling the CAV KS, and are waiting on China for the plastic Bones miniatures. So they have a "hole" in their schedule.
Given Dakka's international audience, I don't like the jingoism, either. It's not until you look at the video do you realize they're doing a parody of the inside joke about their plastic injection machine. They do realize that bases are boring, so are also running a contest of silly things you can do with bases:
Spoiler:
Here's what Reaper (and many other manufacturers) think of the traditional retailer-distributor model, btw.
Spoiler:
Ah, so they have been cranking out product that nobody asked for with the production they have and now have a gap before they receive the stuff that they promised from an overseas source. And they see Kickstarter as a way to move the stock. Gotcha. From a consumer perspective, still seems like a very questionable offering.
I am familiar with the video from 2012. Manufacturers generally prefer to sell direct to retailers as you capture more profits. Distributors in the hobby industry grew because there were so many small players and they provided a central hub for retailers. Additionally, they made products from the few big companies accessible for retailers who didn't want to carry huge stocks that direct contracts required. Internet access had made communication between retailers (and customers) and manufacturers much easier.
The problem with some of these projects is it goes straight to consumer and cut out both the distributor *and the retailer*. Reaper acknowledged this and seems to have tried to address it.
It is obvious that Reaper is making stuff that nobody wants, that is why their Kickstarters are doing so poorly.... (If by 'poorly' you mean 'amazingly well' and by 'nobody' you mean 'tens of thousands of people'....)
This is not an exciting Kickstarte - and they know that it is not an exciting Kickstarter - but it is something that folks on the Reaper forums have been asking for. And something that even came up in the comments section of the Bones II Kickstarter.
I would like to see some nice, simple, large rectangular bases - not beveled, so that they can be used on either side, depending on your needs.
There may be other companies that make such bases, but - so what? If I have a chance to get them in a Kickstarter then I will - ordering them six months ahead would only be a problem if I did not expect to have a use for them in six months time.
I can use then now - but I will also be able to use them then. My need for unit bases will not miraculously disappear - I will simply be using them for different figures than the ones that I am painting now.
I found myself with a desire for Vaplorhines furless psychotic daemonic monkeys from Frostgrave. Fairly obscure can't be easy to do
Ah Reaper...........
They say they used that machine to make bases, but you just know it was really used for the injection modding equivalent of photocopying your butt. Why else the delay in manufacturing?
The size of that machine, and the scale of it's production, are underwhelming, to say the least. It's no wonder that the bulk of production is required to occur over seas.
adamsouza wrote: The size of that machine, and the scale of it's production, are underwhelming, to say the least. It's no wonder that the bulk of production is required to occur over seas.
When I lived in Houston, I made the trip to Mecca/Reaper Studios (North of Dallas) once to play in a HackMaster tournament. The good folks at Reaper gave us a tour, let us watch them pour and spink a few pewter molds, and buy all the things!
For centuries, you have been disemboweling our kind and placing lights in the hollowed remains as decorations. You salt our undeveloped offspring to consume and use our innards to make desserts. Now, you will pay for your crimes!
I'm not normally a fan of OTT stuff like this, but for some reason kind of like her.
I agree. She has a very Chaos Renegades/ Fantasy Punk barbarian aesthetic and looks like she is ready to kicks some tail, not just pushing her goods out there. Also kind of neat that her less armored side is her shield side, so not completely idiotic.
I do like her Bones base better than the broccoli base, though.
I agree. She has a very Chaos Renegades/ Fantasy Punk barbarian aesthetic and looks like she is ready to kicks some tail, not just pushing her goods out there. Also kind of neat that her less armored side is her shield side, so not completely idiotic.
I agree, I think the big FU demon shield actually makes the model work. Subconsciously at least something is triggered saying "This makes enough sense." Not a lot of sense, still crazy, over the top Fantasy Punk as you put it so nicely, but in a strangely more practical sense.
Possibly also because she doesn't look to be wearing combat stilettos.
I've no experience with Reaper Paints. Does anybody? What sort of quality etc, are they? How about the brushes?
They are pretty good, although their metallics are underwhelming compared to Vallejo or Citadel. The HD paints compare very nicely to GW base paints, while the basic colors are nicely grouped into triads for easy layering. The range is also huge, which can be nice.
Overall though, it's not a really necessary range, but there's nothing wrong with it.
spiralingcadaver wrote: Reaper's got some pretty nice colors, IIRC they're slightly thinner than vallejo, but pretty similar.
Yes, it can be quite a chore painting over a black basecoat with Reaper paints (other than the HD paint series). They do have a broad range and lots of options for skin tones and good array of tones for layering or high lighting.
Stick to the W&N and Raphael brushes. I've been on the Reaper forums for years, and nobody talks about the brushes.
The paints were designed by Reaper's staff painter, who, before Reaper was producing paints, had to mix her own. So when Reaper decided to make paints, they asked her how *she* wanted her paints, and there you go. Reaper paints have a high amount of flow improver. IMO, The MSP paints are meant for advanced tabletop or better. The HD paints are for "one coat" coverage, although I prefer the thicker Army Painter paints for it. (I'll still use an undercoat.)
BS: We have our Master Paint and our Master Series HD Paint. Our HD paint is based off the same formula as our Master Paint but it’s formulated to cover better. Our original Master Series Paint was designed by Anne Foerster, who is a multiple international award winning painter, who said I need a paint I don’t have to futz with. She had been using a couple of our competitors GW and Citadel and Vallejo and some of those, and was always adding additives and additional mixtures and working to make the paint work. She said I want to make one that works the way I want it. So she developed our Master Series Paint. We’ve been working on that for years now and it’s been incredibly popular. But one of the biggest complaints we got was because it’s designed by a pro painter, with layering and blending and those kinds of techniques in mind, it’s a little thing and doesn’t have tremendously good coverage. It does cover but sometimes you need two or three or four coats because we wanted to layer with it and blend with it. So we developed the HD paints so that we have a one or two coat solution. We have a one coat solution on everything but our red. Our HD Red I believe still requires two coats. But even the HD yellow is a one coat coverage over your primer and it’s amazing. So it’s really great for your based coat, really great for your foundation. Or if you are a novice painter it’s really good to get you started in painting without having to worry about all the techniques of an advanced painter.
I will parrot most of the above. The majority of my paint is Reaper. GW metalics are better, though. I especially enjoy Reaper's HD paints. HD Red is excellent.
I've no experience with Reaper Paints. Does anybody? What sort of quality etc, are they? How about the brushes?
They are pretty good, although their metallics are underwhelming compared to Vallejo or Citadel. The HD paints compare very nicely to GW base paints, while the basic colors are nicely grouped into triads for easy layering. The range is also huge, which can be nice.
Overall though, it's not a really necessary range, but there's nothing wrong with it.
The only thing bad about the range is that not alot of Local Stores Carry it for people, even if they carry reaper mini's. Means your ordering online alot of times for your paints. If you prefer ordering paints online, then it's very good since reaper dose free shipping to US&CAN on orders over $35 USD.
If Vallejo was not easily available locally, I would use them. I just order from them for speciality colours like their Drow Skin Paint triad, and other odds and ends.
I am a Vallejo man, but I have been picking up the HD paints with every Bones Kickstarter, and I am sold on them. Maybe not quite as heavy coverage as GW's old Foundation line, but close. They also mix up well, and with a little airbrush thinner go through my airbrush nicely. And dropper bottles are great.
I haven't tried Reaper metallics, but I am not in love with Vallejo's either. I rather like the GW ones, but I haven't picked any up in a long time so I am using VJ's till mine run out.
Interesting to know that Reaper's normal paint line is a little thinner and such. I might have to give that a try sometime.
The only "negative" or "bad" review I've seen of their paint was basically: Vallejo works better for more styles and Reaper's was made to do a style I don't use.
Personally I love the Reaper paint, it's ready right from the bottle while I find Vallejo (Model Colour) needs a little thinning. I do prefer Valejo Metalics for golds and silver. I was using Reaper Honed Steel for ages but I like standardization so swapped over to Vallejo last time I needed steel.
Bright red/orange/yellow still need a second or third coat even with the HD when doing large areas but that's situation normal in my opinion. However Polished Bone (Master series) has awesome coverage and is close enough to white 90% of the time.
As for brushes no idea, for a couple years now I've used Blick Scholastic (ox hair), DaVinchi (black sable), and Windsor Newton Sieries 7 (red sable) so I couldn't say for certain but if they're synthetic or mixed natural/synthetic I'd skip them unless they're really cheap as they'll develop an annoying curl.
I have a fair amount of Reaper paints from both Kickstarters and just general purchase and personally I find blending with them to be a real chore compared to GW or Vallejo.. Granted my GW paint experience goes back to the old screw tops to the foundation.. so whatever is newer than that I dunno. I find Reaper's suspension separates from the pigment too much and results in just a really bizarre "floating" of the pigment. I have my own thinning solution that uses Vallejo retarder and thinner medium and it just does not play well with whatever Reaper uses for me.
That said.. I know the paints themselves have it in them.. So all of what I said above is specific to me. I'm not an amazing painter or anything either I just have my own way I like to blend and it doesn't play well with Reaper.
I will also say that I find the coverage to be weird just laying it down on a primed model. To me, it doesn't seem like water based acrylic as much as acrylic pigment in some kind of smeary oil or something. YMMV
I've got a bunch of reaper and find it really good, especially for smooth blending on skin tones (they do a wide variety of triads for different one),
but you will have to put on several coats and the first one can look smeary, but once you've got smooth coverage it gives a really nice finish as shown on one of my mierce minis below
they do separate, but are much easier to shake up than Vallejo so I don't find that an issue
the one real weak link in their range is the metals which are average at best
I've been using paints from the various ranges for a lot of years (in some cases close to 30) and I've recently switched almost entirely to Reaper after having used and been very pleased with their paints in the last 5 years. I still get my metallics from Vallejo's Model Air or the newer Metal Air range and my washes (on the rare instance that I use premade washes) from Citadel.
I'm too lazy to bother with any additives beyond water and Reaper paints allow me to do more with that than other ranges, I have found. As always, buy a few and see if they're good for you.
For brushes: Winsor & Newton series 7 (not miniature series 7 the bristles are too short - hence the "miniature" - and don't hold enough moisture) every time. I use a #1 for everything; it has a big enough belly to hold a good amount of paint without drying out and a sharp enough tip for detail work. Wash them with brush soap after each painting session and they're last a very long time.
Thanks for the replies guys I think I'll add a few colors to my order, next time I order something from Miniature Market. I like the idea of a nice matte finish, and I don't use metallics anymore for miniatures. I am lazy about thinning too. But I manage.
Normally I use Delta Ceramcoat (a higher end craft paint), or acrylic artists paints (I learned how to work with that stuff in painting classes years ago.) because it is readily obtainable. It will be interesting to compare it to a paint ostensibly formulated for miniatures.
Lockark wrote: The only thing bad about the range is that not alot of Local Stores Carry it for people, even if they carry reaper mini's. Means your ordering online alot of times for your paints. If you prefer ordering paints online, then it's very good since reaper dose free shipping to US&CAN on orders over $35 USD.
If Vallejo was not easily available locally, I would use them. I just order from them for speciality colours like their Drow Skin Paint triad, and other odds and ends.
This. I like their color triads a lot, but I don't like ordering paint online if I can avoid it. With Vallejo and Army Painter and even Citadel paints available to me locally I just use them. Any benefit that Reaper Paint may offer not enough to off-set the ease of local availability of the others.
Red Harvest wrote: Normally I use Delta Ceramcoat (a higher end craft paint), or acrylic artists paints (I learned how to work with that stuff in painting classes years ago.) because it is readily obtainable. It will be interesting to compare it to a paint ostensibly formulated for miniatures.
Some people dismiss craft paints, but I've experimented extensively with Delta Ceramcoat (I've actually got a whole rack of their paint on my painting desk) and gotten really good results. Their properties are a bit different than the specialist paints, but if you know how to work with them you can get good results.
Ouch, they're overshooting the promised August 2016 date by quite a bit then. Here's hoping though that wave 1 shipping really means wave 1 shipping, even if I am a filthy foreigner.
Ugh. I knew their recent updates of "no set delivery date yet" were setting us backers up for disappointment. I expected better from Reaper after several previous successes.
@ Orlando ...
I can see the middle "Order of the Scrunt" image but not the ones to either side of it.
Least they can do is let me add more stuff to the inevitable pile that will take years for me to work my through. I forgot to order that Ogre command set!
Here's part of the update, including the option for a refund, would you be so inclined:
We made a mistake.
We had a very intense conversation with our partners in China this week, and discovered a communication error and gross misunderstanding on our part about the updates they were providing us.
In a previous Update, we had announced that production was 100% complete and all they had to do now was put the models into little baggies and boxes. We also said that collating the Core Sets in this manner was the last step. We pressed for more information about the models that we believed to be done but were still not being assigned a Container, and learned that our understanding of the status was incorrect.
Where we are now is that production on the models that go into the Core Sets is complete, and they are still collating and assembling those sets from the completed models. They are not finished with all of the other rewards, which is why these rewards are not assigned to a Container.
After a great deal of back and forth over e-mail, we were able to get them to give us a status update that included what they estimated as a timeline for completion of everything. They were not able to give a precise date, but they anticipated being finished, and having all product on the water "shortly before American New Year".
We're very sorry. We have been announcing no significant delays, and promising things to begin any day now, and we were wrong. This failure rests entirely on our shoulders, and we will do whatever we can to improve our communication with China for the future, to avoid compounding this error.
Our assessment of the information given was based on flawed assumptions about the details we were provided with. For example, when we were sent the invoice for all non-core-set models, we assumed that they were being prepped for shipping. This had been standard practice in our previous orders from them, and we just made an assumption. The invoices we were sent, however, indicated they were starting work on those parts, not finishing them, apparently due to some policy changes because some customers weren't ready to pay the bills when the invoices arrived after the work was done, resulting in lost time and money. We should have been more diligent with our communication.
There is nothing we can do to speed this process up, and we have no explanations for why work on some product had not been started until now.
We will be happy to work with those of you who feel this unacceptable to let you out of the project with your pledges back, minus kickstarter's fees. We would like to ask that you bear with us, however, as we think the product from this project is some of the best we have ever made, and you will be satisfied with the results.
If you wish to contact us directly, you can use the Kickstarter messaging feature or send an e-mail to help@reapermini.com.
If you are wanting a refund or have issues with your rewards, please be sure to include your login-email, any relevant order numbers, and mention which project you're referencing (Bones 3).
If you have any other questions we would be happy to discuss them.
Eyup, at least they are upfront about it and not shifting the blame, seeking refuge in complete radio silence or crawling up their own asses like some companies out there.
Well done Reaper, while I find your expectation in regards to the invoice strange ( none of the manufacturers I do business with start production until the invoice is paid), the way you've been upfront about it and didn't try to shift the blame on someone else is quite admirable.
Yea, I am pretty ok with this. Mostly sad I am not getting the HD Paints sooner, but ahh well. It is entirely possible I have too many things as it is.
Well... too many to get built and paint to worry about this cutting into my production process.
It's disappointing for sure, especially given how experienced they are. But they're handling it incredibly well, with timely, detailed updates and what seem like heartfelt apologies. I will likely still be backing Bones IV.
They really are being very transparent, and seem as eager to ship to us as we are to get it. I like that a lot, and, finances willing, will be in for Bones IV.
Joyboozer wrote: Well done Reaper, while I find your expectation in regards to the invoice strange ( none of the manufacturers I do business with start production until the invoice is paid), the way you've been upfront about it and didn't try to shift the blame on someone else is quite admirable.
The sad irony that while the majority of people/organizations try desperately to appear like they didn't make a mistake when admitting that you have garners far more respect. Good on Reaper for choosing the latter
Reaper Bones Kickstarters are getting to be like my Amazon Prime membership. I fork over a $100 a year automatically and I'm usually pretty happy with the value of what I get.
ReaperBryan wrote:We have spent three years setting up the business entity which is handling our UK/EU fulfillment, and similar entities for AU fulfillment.
The warehouse is currently being prepared - personnel, fixtures, and paperwork. We have yet to fulfill a single order from that facility yet, as we continue to work through the details.
We intend to begin fulfillment of our reapermini.com web-store orders which originate in the UK from that facility over the next several months (December? January? February? Right now there's factors i cannot go into that have to be resolved). These orders will be the testing, streamlining, and final factoring of that process.
Then we will fulfill CAV and Secret Weapon Dungeons from the plural joint facilities as close to simultaneously as the continental difference will allow. Actual Simultinaeity (is that a word? I don't think it is, but I'm sticking with it) is likely to be impossible. Nevertheless, we will further refine our understanding of how the process works after successfully fulfilling our EU/UK based internet orders and 2 kickstarters.
By the time we launch Bones IV in spring 2017, we should have several months of Internet Fulfillment under our belt, and will have a better grasp of how this will work, which should help to make that fulfillment process faster and smoother (faster at the very least because 25% of our orders are non-US, so our personnel and facility will be shipping only 75% of the product and not 100% as in the past - this alone would have cut bones 2 fulfillment* down to only 11 days)
I strongly suspect, but cannot promise, that Bones IV will be EU/UK, CA, and AU/NZ friendly with fulfillment centers in 4 countries. If this changes, or is not feasible, we will very likely have an explanation as to why.
* I use fulfillment here to mean the process of shipping rewards. This 4-facility approach is unlikely to have any impact on the manufacturing time between project close and shipping start. That's a metric we need to learn how to estimate with much greater accuracy.
Honestly I'm more excited that I'll finally be able to order Reaper figs without having to choose between international shipping & customs charges on the one hand, or the awful, awful stock levels and long wait times of their handful of existing EU stockists on the other.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Next step, Reaper (tm) shoppes on every High Street!
Hah - The year is 2022, the Reaper Bones 19 kickstarter is so successful that Reaper buys out GW and converts the entire chain of stores into Reapershoppes(tm); sadly, the price difference is so much lower, many GW customers die of sticker shock on opening day.
adamsouza wrote: Reaper Bones Kickstarters are getting to be like my Amazon Prime membership. I fork over a $100 a year automatically and I'm usually pretty happy with the value of what I get.
You must have bucketfuls of unpainted white plastic. I'm still working through my haul from Bones 1 - I only have a fraction of it painted so far.
adamsouza wrote: Reaper Bones Kickstarters are getting to be like my Amazon Prime membership. I fork over a $100 a year automatically and I'm usually pretty happy with the value of what I get.
You must have bucketfuls of unpainted white plastic. I'm still working through my haul from Bones 1 - I only have a fraction of it painted so far.
I think I have at least some paint on almost all my Bones 2 stuff, but I did split my order with my son. I haven't painted the handful of modern/SF minis that came with it because I don't have a need for them, but almost all the rest has at least been started.
adamsouza wrote: Reaper Bones Kickstarters are getting to be like my Amazon Prime membership. I fork over a $100 a year automatically and I'm usually pretty happy with the value of what I get.
You must have bucketfuls of unpainted white plastic. I'm still working through my haul from Bones 1 - I only have a fraction of it painted so far.
Yes. Yes I do.
Although, truth be told I don't keep my miniatures in buckets.
adamsouza wrote: Reaper Bones Kickstarters are getting to be like my Amazon Prime membership. I fork over a $100 a year automatically and I'm usually pretty happy with the value of what I get.
You must have bucketfuls of unpainted white plastic. I'm still working through my haul from Bones 1 - I only have a fraction of it painted so far.
Yes. Yes I do.
Although, truth be told I don't keep my miniatures in buckets.
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Who kept all his Bones in a bucket...
On second thought, any poem involving buckets and Nantucket is better to be avoided....
But it was totally fine afterwards.....and that's why we shovel so much money at this stuff
It's the principle of the thing!
If you are the kind of person that trucks your figures around, the Bones are excellent! - for character models, yeah, I prefer metals.... but for mooks and monsters, gimme the Bones!
Painting a Bones dragon is a pure pleasure, let me tell you.
They are also awesome for kids to paint and play with. My 3 year old loves sitting with me to paint giants, monsters and "daddy's peoples", the actual plastic/resin models she isn't allowed to play with She carries around Daddy Giant, Mommy Giant (storm giant set) and Mommy and Baby Dragon, plus a random beholder she loves because she can feed it things with its open mouth.
Soon, she will be painting all my bare plastic armies for me. Soon...
Wehrkind wrote: They are also awesome for kids to paint and play with. My 3 year old loves sitting with me to paint giants, monsters and "daddy's peoples", the actual plastic/resin models she isn't allowed to play with She carries around Daddy Giant, Mommy Giant (storm giant set) and Mommy and Baby Dragon, plus a random beholder she loves because she can feed it things with its open mouth.
Soon, she will be painting all my bare plastic armies for me. Soon...
They do make fantastic low-cost learn-to-paint resources. Although my son is a bit older than others mentioned here (16) his painting skills have improved massively since splitting the Bones 2 KS rewards with me a couple of years back. He's a bit embarrassed about some of the painting on the early Bones stuff he did but also really proud of his ability to do decent paint jobs on his more recently acquired Hasslefree minis.
Victoria Lamb was lamenting the fact that Bones had not been available when she was teaching her nieces and nephews how to paint - likewise, I would have loved] having them back when I was running a class on RPGs and another on Mil. Sci..
And I am so looking forward to when Brigid can hold a brush in her tiny, tiny hands. (Right now the Bones miniature would make a quick trip to her mouth....)
Red Harvest wrote: Give your child a painted mini and she is happy for a day. Teach your child to paint minis, and you are happy for a lifetime
Our baby is less than three months old - and she already has two complete sets of (fuzzy) polyhedral dice.
The Auld Grump
Those are a great gift. I have some fuzzy d20's that I got for my wife's car, and the little one learned to throw and name numbers up to 20 largely because of those.
Another good thing with Bones for learning to paint, you can strip them down with Simple Green many, many times and not damage them. They seem to get a little more rigid through the process, but I have stripped a few about 10+ times messing with paint schemes, and they are just fine. So if you don't like the way they come out, into the bucket of green they go!
The mouth thing is a problem; mom won't let Olivia have her dragons in the living room because the 7 month old might deep throat one of their heads, which is basically a large, multi pointed fish hook. Plus, anything too pointy is off limits, in case Olivia decides it is time to exact some toddler justice on her little sister. Still, that leaves a lot of good sized models to mess about with, filling out the ranks of Daniel Tiger and Peppa Pig
I would like to see a line of 54 mm Bones models. Maybe just up-scaled versions of regular character models and the like. Probably not too useful for most people who aren't playing original scale Inquisitor type games, but it would be cool to have some monsters and heroes the size/scale of the giants for the girls to play around with.
I guess, for larger models, giants and golems would work for her.
fwiw, Mythic Battles: Pantheon God KS models are of a larger scale than the 28mm humans. Not sure if the pointy swords would be good for her. "One feature of Mythic Battles: Pantheon is the number of large miniatures included in the game. The Gods in particular are all at least 65mm (2.5 inches) tall, and some of the Monsters also tower over normal mortals. We hope to show you some even larger models as the campaign progresses."
Also, of course, arts and craft stores has paint projects for the little ones, with plaster animals and such in the same white color as Dad's Bones miniatures. Don't forget your 40% off coupon!
Oh yea, I am totally in on the Pantheon Kickstarter Those might be a little risky though. I do let her mess about with my Bloodrage monsters, but only during an actual game, before they go back in their hermetically sealed box. I wish they sold just the big models (or just the minis in general) for that game.
Of course, by the time Pantheon is in hand, she will be over 4, so she might be ready for those sorts of models When she is a bit closer to that age I am going to give her some of the large resin models I make at home to paint, but for now they are a little more delicate than she can handle. She has some space ships that survived her tender caress, but a lot more that are now in the "space wreckage" jar
The BF sales were either most popular items at ReaperCon or a new product. They've been selling the ReaperCon swag bags as a webstore item for years, so I guess this isn't surprising that they're offering deals at ReaperCon to those who couldn't attend or purchase at the time.
It's a massive dragon, a foot high all hunched over. Also the resin version is probably the "Special" edition and only being done in small numbers. It's kind of like buying a warhound or reaver from FW.
It's a massive dragon, a foot high all hunched over. Also the resin version is probably the "Special" edition and only being done in small numbers. It's kind of like buying a warhound or reaver from FW.
Gotcha. Just seemed like an oddly high number for a Reaper product.
It's a massive dragon, a foot high all hunched over. Also the resin version is probably the "Special" edition and only being done in small numbers. It's kind of like buying a warhound or reaver from FW.
Gotcha. Just seemed like an oddly high number for a Reaper product.
I think that same dragon is part of Reaper's current Bones 3 Kickstarter. Once that's released it should be available much cheaper.
Does anyone know what's going on with the retail release of KS 2? I've been waiting for certain releases to drop, like the paladin on horse, and it still hasn't hit retail. Did they can some of their minis before release?
If you have any Bones mini's, might as well pick up some Brown Liner. Use it as an undercoat, but it somewhat settles into the recesses like a wash would on a primed miniature.
The Yule Treant and Christmas Present Mimics are really neat. ZOMG Christmas Frostgrave game.. I'm doing the maths on whether or not I can make this happen..
Goblin Carolers. Not quite as amusing to see as the Gremlin carolers from that movie, but nice. Too hard to see the detail of the Julie Guthrie Wrapping Dragon.
Anyone know how useful that paint case is, the actual case, not the contents?
Red Harvest wrote: Goblin Carolers. Not quite as amusing to see as the Gremlin carolers from that movie, but nice. Too hard to see the detail of the Julie Guthrie Wrapping Dragon.
Anyone know how useful that paint case is, the actual case, not the contents?
It's likely the same as the paint case they sell. There are a few reviews floating around. If I remember correctly, the consensus is that they're okay but don't plan on stuffing a lot of other paints in too... but... double check that, it's been a while since I looked into them.
First off we've got the limited edition Christmas figures, so get 'em while they're hot!
Or cold.
Or whatever.
While you can OK?
Christmas Knight and Christmas Eve (puns I can't believe no one has used before), Santas, and other random bits.
And in the metal range...
The Spirit of Winter, a decent sorceress for all sorts of roles.
And the Spirit of Spring, not quite as useful, but certainly nice.
An elven gardener with her +2 trowel of digging.
Another great model that really tells a story. Steve was out shopping for a new sword when he saw his buddy Frank and Frank had a whole wagon full of severed heads and since they were old buddies Frank gave him a great deal and that way Steve had a nice severed head to bring home to his kids for Severed Head Day.
A powerful Cattlemancer with her Staff of Undead Cow Summoning.
"Don't turn into a giant snake, it never helps"-Evil Overlord Handbook
Come on, all together now... "Aw cute!"
An elf! Who's a ranger! And has both a sword and a bow! Where do they get their ideas!
Merrowyn Lightstar, Female Elf Paladin, now I'm not racist but back in my day Paladins were human, round ears, 5'-6' tall, no infravision. Now I ain't got no problem with elfs, but I don't see why they need to be be taking jobs from good, hard-working humans. Cultural appropriation is what it is.
Highlander Heroine, forced to leave her peaceful semi-Scottish village and take up arms due to elfs taking all the jobs once held by humans.
Six-armed half snake woman! Where do they get their ideas?
The Red Raven, an assassin so skilled he dresses in bright crimson just to give his victims a slight chance to spot him in time.
Did you ever just want to smack a 28mm model in the face? I mean I just want to pop him one in the nose. Kudos to Bobby Jackson for that face.
And then some GIs. Because why not?
It's something I certainly love about Reaper, the diversity and the randomness, you never know what you'll get week to week or year to year.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Merrowyn Lightstar, Female Elf Paladin, now I'm not racist but back in my day Paladins were human, round ears, 5'-6' tall, no infravision. Now I ain't got no problem with elfs, but I don't see why they need to be be taking jobs from good, hard-working humans. Cultural appropriation is what it is.
You think that's bad? I've got a Half-Orc Paladin sitting on my hobby table demanding to be painted! The nerve of him!
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Merrowyn Lightstar, Female Elf Paladin, now I'm not racist but back in my day Paladins were human, round ears, 5'-6' tall, no infravision. Now I ain't got no problem with elfs, but I don't see why they need to be be taking jobs from good, hard-working humans. Cultural appropriation is what it is.
You think that's bad? I've got a Half-Orc Paladin sitting on my hobby table demanding to be painted! The nerve of him!
Barzam wrote: Aren't those GIs from their Reich of the Dead line?
Um maybe? Did that game ever come out?
Seems they started a line ages ago, never went anywhere with it, so this might just be an exercise in inventory cleaning. We'll see if we get more Nazi Zombies next week.
I always thought the only thing more fun than fighting Nazis would be Nazi Zombies.
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MLaw wrote: Hilarious read KK, I really hope the adventuring kids are the start of an homage to the 80s D&D Cartoon.. how awesome would that be?
- bones version image, slightly different angle
, If they don't use it I will. A Giant Pig/man skeleton wielding an Scythe dressed in a hooded robe. Ticked off for all eternity because the humans devoured his flesh to consume his bacon. I will call him Kevin 
MORE METAL 
, guys.
