some google translate from their Russian fb page (i think that is what it is)
Now just need to work out how to get these models!
Any help appreciated from Russian Dakkanaughts!
The first unit in the series War Maidens, which was developed as an alternative army Sisters of Battle. The squad consists of five modular models by 25 mm supports. In addition to the models are three heads without helmets , two special weapon , helmet, combi - weapons sergeant.
This work laid out " for example ." Cost of one copy of the order of 1,350 p .
jreilly89 wrote: Pretty cool. Although these still have the bob haircut. Not sure why that's so prevalent in SoB models?
Because it gave the impression of having longer hair while still working as a one piece metal cast. At this point it's part of an established design aesthetic that keeps them recognizable.
A quick and dirty google translate sounds like you can PM them to purchase, but they are not officially for sale.
"Grishnak models a Russian studio, dedicated to modeling and simulation of miniatures .
All the works presented in the community are made to order or just a hobby , and are exploratory in nature .
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Officially we do not " sell " thumbnails. For any questions please write to the PM.
Wishes when ordering the author's miniatures can obtain additional copies of these miniatures in the resin . In that case, if the description contains photographs value , it is - similar to the price for copying."
Huh, well I guess GW's claim that they can't do plastic sister's because of their hair is bs then. Those look really nice. How much you want to bet that they are shut down by GW's legal department, and then GW announces shortly afterwards that they have "new" plastic sisters?
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Huh, well I guess GW's claim that they can't do plastic sister's because of their hair is bs then.
Those look really nice.
How much you want to bet that they are shut down by GW's legal department, and then GW announces shortly afterwards that they have "new" plastic sisters?
Its always pretty much been BS.
if they wanted they could have.
Wonder if these would be sold with the weapons shown?
I was so excited when these popped up in the Wargames Exclusive thread, then bummed when they disappeard, then excited when they cropped up here!
Sisters were my first proper army back in 2nd, after the hodgepodge of Marines I put together after my first few games, while I'm fully corrupted by Chaos now they still hold a place in my heart, I would love to get my hands on these. The bob cuts have never been great, but they're fitting and you can always use the Statuesque Miniatures heads for swaps (although Id rather they were just all helmeted tbh)
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Huh, well I guess GW's claim that they can't do plastic sister's because of their hair is bs then.
Those look really nice.
How much you want to bet that they are shut down by GW's legal department, and then GW announces shortly afterwards that they have "new" plastic sisters?
Wait, who ever said that hair was the problem? I always heard it was the cloth shoulder bits that were the issue. But then B@C happened so….
I always wanted some of the old style sisters with the little old style rhino's and immolators.
These are really nice, though are the new style, they don't have the gas masks. Though if plastic sisters come out I can realize my dream sooner (and maybe get rid of junk in the process).
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Huh, well I guess GW's claim that they can't do plastic sister's because of their hair is bs then.
Those look really nice.
How much you want to bet that they are shut down by GW's legal department, and then GW announces shortly afterwards that they have "new" plastic sisters?
Wait, who ever said that hair was the problem? I always heard it was the cloth shoulder bits that were the issue. But then B@C happened so….
I heard it was their hair. I guess its possible they changed their excuse.
It's sweet of you to credit me for my Google gymnastics, Mr Morden. Thanks!
I love these to death and I need all of them. I'm going to hold off until the following comes to pass, though.
GrishnakModels wrote: I give the order the release of new models:
exemplary sequence is as follows: 1) Sets Special of weapon on the individual sprues (5 Meltem / 5 flamethrowers) 2) Dominionki - 5 models in the dynamic running poses 2) Retrebyutershi - 5 models with heavy weapons, protective posture static 3) Serafimki - 5 models with their version of the armor. Fly, run, jump .... 4) Equipment - 4 model on the basis of one (Reno, Immolyator, repressor, The Exorcist). Completely reworked Rink and sootvtestvenno new aero parts. 5) Sisters of Battle (second five) - 5 models in non-combat positions (prayer, rest, etc.) 6) Canoness - character with a set of weapons 7) Celestine - power, passion and sexy 8) Priests - 5 models of half-mad monks 9) Repentistki - 5 models of half-naked girls ... My love for anatomy will find here a place to turn ... 10) Selestinki / komandnik - 5 models in rich armor 11) Hands Selestiankam with pistols / swords 12) Conclave - the Crusaders and the Cult of Death As you can see, a lot of plans, so that the terms can not yet say anything. Work in progress!
... which sounds like:
1) Meltas and flamers
2) "Dominionki", Dominions
2) "Retrebyutershi", Retributors
3) "Serafimki", Seraphim
4) Rhino, Immolator, Repressor (completely reworked Rink?)
5) Five more Battle Sisters in non-combat positions (goodness, I need this so much)
6) Canoness with options
7) Celestine "power, passion, and sexy" (okay?)
8) 5 Priests
9) "Repentistki", Repentia
10) "Selestinki / komandnik - 5 models in rich armor", Celestians
11) "Hands Selestiankam with pistols / swords" melee Celestians?
12) "Conclave - the Crusaders and the Cult of Death", Death Cult Assassins and Crusaders
This could just be everything I ever wanted. They're even in truescale.
EDIT: I noticed their flowing sleeves and it made me smile because it reminded me of GW's nonsense excuses.
"...All models are sculpted and custom-made to order and it's possible to order multiple copies of your custom-made miniatures molded in resin as an extra service."
So they are not mass-produced because every order is individually sculpted, GW has gak on them.
Hello, this is Games Workshop. We're terribly sorry, for years our multi-million dollar company has been having a hard time doing the same quality of work as a tiny Russian one.
Although in the meantime we have perfected abandoning or outright killing our own production lines and then holding the rights to them to prevent someone with their heads screwed on straight producing the same quality or better. Try to think of us as FOX television, but for miniatures wargames.
Cool. I like the 2nd ed style bolters re-imagined slightly.
Don't several companies already make kits that involve the same type of elements that are being used as reasons not to do these?
I think the bob haircut has more to do with modesty and the space nun theme. There are faiths that teach hair past shoulder length is considered excessive and immodest and so forth. At least that's why I think GW went that direction. Why these guys stayed with that would be even further speculation.
GW needs to hire these guys. Then they will finally be able to do flowing sleeves and whatever other bsGW had "trouble" with.
If you'd want to order these you'd have to drop them a message on VK or on the warforge.ru forums and ask about it (I am not sure they speak English, so you'd probably have to do it in Russian). Price for one resin, modular 5-girl squad (including special weapons and combi-weapon) is 1350 Russian rubles (that is about 20 dollars).
If there is enough demand, they will make more stuff. Eventually they hope to remake almost the entire SoB line in resin.
They're nice, but they are also very close to the GW metal models. A bit thinner, that is.
To me, I don't see the need to take them to replace my whole army of 200+ sisters of battle. Nor even take them for celestial since they're clearly regular sisters of battle.
They lack bolt pistols, though. At least the metal models didn't make that mistake.
They will be on the western market, definately.
But at the moment, the guys from Grishnak are improving the production, so that every customer will recieve their orfder without it being late.
ETA of such improvements being done is the end of june.
Their own website is in the works, but it won`t have any direct sales/shopping carts to avoid you know whom. So emailing them will be required
Paypal and qiwi are the two ways of payment. They will try to sell through ebay as well.
The price tag will be around 1500 roubles, which is about 15 pounds at the moment.
They will be on the western market, definately.
But at the moment, the guys from Grishnak are improving the production, so that every customer will recieve their orfder without it being late.
ETA of such improvements being done is the end of june.
Their own website is in the works, but it won`t have any direct sales/shopping carts to avoid you know whom. So emailing them will be required
Paypal and qiwi are the two ways of payment. They will try to sell through ebay as well.
The price tag will be around 1500 roubles, which is about 15 pounds at the moment.
I'll just translate Solar's replies, not the questions.
"Ronan, if you really want to run WYSIWYG, then yea you'd need the bolt pistol. But on the other hand, the huge holster on the hip would spoil the silhouette of the figure. That said, tournaments wont allow the figure as it is."
"Ronan, a Farseer/Warlock model is available, but not from me. See your PM."
"Kiril, we've got a new thread on whats coming next."
"(in response to a rather mean question of "Will the sisters get better faces?") Alexander, thats a good question. Let me say first of all, in my opinion, the faces are not bad. Second, Sisters of Battle are not super models. Third, When you're working at such a scale, work on face detail
is like a lotery. You arent able to have your hands control the process to the micron, and sometimes thats all that it takes to make the face attractive or not. Therefore, yea, we want to make pretty faces, but what we get sometimes depends on luck."
"(arent you scared of GW's wrath?) Well, no, because we dont sell the miniatures. Theres nothing illegal/forbidden about sculpting."
"You may be able to order them assembled from the other side (over seas), ask them if they are willing to."
Whats coming up next in the pipeline:
1. Individual melta weapons on sprues.
2. 5 Dynamic running poses
3. Retributors with heavy weapons in static/defensive poses
4. Tank kit that makes Immolator, Rhino, repressor, exorcist.
5. Sisters in non combat poses (praying, etc)
6. Cannoness character
7. Celestine "Power, passion, sexy"
8. Priests, 5 "Half mad" models
9. Repenting ladies (half naked models)
10. Commanders, models in ornate armor
11. Commanders with pistols and swords
12. Conclave crusaders/death cults
"(In response to a few "Where can I order?" questions) Sometimes the answer comes after a long wait...theres a lot of business/red tape...but you'll get an answer eventually.
"(In response to "can we order as a group?") Because we do not sell the models, ordering through this group would be full of problems. It would be better to establish a site for that."
They will be on the western market, definately.
But at the moment, the guys from Grishnak are improving the production, so that every customer will recieve their orfder without it being late.
ETA of such improvements being done is the end of june.
Their own website is in the works, but it won`t have any direct sales/shopping carts to avoid you know whom. So emailing them will be required
Paypal and qiwi are the two ways of payment. They will try to sell through ebay as well.
The price tag will be around 1500 roubles, which is about 15 pounds at the moment.
And indeed they know how to speak english
Thanks that's great - much appreciated for taking the time and effort.
If you have a mo - please pass on how much I (and I think others) are excited about their models!! They look fabulous!
I'll just translate Solar's replies, not the questions.
"Ronan, if you really want to run WYSIWYG, then yea you'd need the bolt pistol. But on the other hand, the huge holster on the hip would spoil the silhouette of the figure. That said, tournaments wont allow the figure as it is."
"Ronan, a Farseer/Warlock model is available, but not from me. See your PM."
"Kiril, we've got a new thread on whats coming next."
"(in response to a rather mean question of "Will the sisters get better faces?") Alexander, thats a good question. Let me say first of all, in my opinion, the faces are not bad. Second, Sisters of Battle are not super models. Third, When you're working at such a scale, work on face detail
is like a lotery. You arent able to have your hands control the process to the micron, and sometimes thats all that it takes to make the face attractive or not. Therefore, yea, we want to make pretty faces, but what we get sometimes depends on luck."
"(arent you scared of GW's wrath?) Well, no, because we dont sell the miniatures. Theres nothing illegal/forbidden about sculpting."
"You may be able to order them assembled from the other side (over seas), ask them if they are willing to."
Whats coming up next in the pipeline:
1. Individual melta weapons on sprues.
2. 5 Dynamic running poses
3. Retributors with heavy weapons in static/defensive poses
4. Tank kit that makes Immolator, Rhino, repressor, exorcist.
5. Sisters in non combat poses (praying, etc)
6. Cannoness character
7. Celestine "Power, passion, sexy"
8. Priests, 5 "Half mad" models
9. Repenting ladies (half naked models)
10. Commanders, models in ornate armor
11. Commanders with pistols and swords
12. Conclave crusaders/death cults
"(In response to a few "Where can I order?" questions) Sometimes the answer comes after a long wait...theres a lot of business/red tape...but you'll get an answer eventually.
"(In response to "can we order as a group?") Because we do not sell the models, ordering through this group would be full of problems. It would be better to establish a site for that."
They will be on the western market, definately.
But at the moment, the guys from Grishnak are improving the production, so that every customer will recieve their orfder without it being late.
ETA of such improvements being done is the end of june.
Their own website is in the works, but it won`t have any direct sales/shopping carts to avoid you know whom. So emailing them will be required
Paypal and qiwi are the two ways of payment. They will try to sell through ebay as well.
The price tag will be around 1500 roubles, which is about 15 pounds at the moment.
This guy is clearly trying to stay true to the original design, which is commendable even if there are certain... elements that could have been improved upon further.
I am sorry that you find the sisters of battle to be 'problematic', but I really miss the old witch hunter range... These models really have me tempted to go back and play 40k, I dropped out during 5th edition, but I have always wanted to have an army of Battle Sisters.
Ever since rogue trader, I have loved the sisters of battle. Sister sin helped set the tone from the earliest days.
In fact, the sisters of battle was my first true army that I bought, during third ed, and has been my weak spot for gw even though I no longer care about gw.
I am definitely ordering these. I care not if these are infringement. They are gorgeous and I want them. Just a squad, so I can have an example of my first love hanging out.
Well yea I mean how else would we know they're female?
Don't get me wrong, I love sexy armor, but I don't think every single rank and file sister needs big honkers. Plus aren't they battle nuns? The last thing I think of when I think nuns is sexuality. Good models that could've been great models tbh.
I don't get, how people consider their armour sexist.
Why blood Angels' sanguinary guard breast plate isn't then?
And it's a uniform , so bras would be the same size anyway.
I hate, that sculpting a sexually attractive model is now considerd misogynistic.
It seems like every time boobies are not hidden underneath 5 layers of clothing on a model, some scandal is bound to happen.
I'm pretty sure, if you read the fluff, it'll explain to you, why sisters of battle would be "loud and proud" to show, that they are women. Thus trying to look in a most distinctive way from
Men
They are a "religious sisterhood", but it's a fictional church- it doesn't have to be akin to the ones we have on earth.
much like with recasters the issue is courts in many countries are in no great hurry to worry about it.
They can go after them through credit card companies or paypal making it harder for them to pay.
I wish people would stop referring to using the same visual cues as a GW product as if it's similar to actually recasting GW models, they're not even remotely equivalent, and GW has exactly zero claim against these guys or anyone else making "Space Canadian Armymen", "Space British Soldiers from Zulu", "Space Nuns in Powered Armour", "Space Legionaries", "Holy Roman Empire Soldier with Fantasy Twist", or anything else along those lines. These are the miniature equivalent of making "GUDDI" handbags that happen to look very similar to designs put out by a certain designer label; it's not illegal, it's not unlawful, and it's not infringing any copyrights no matter what the imitated party would like people to believe.
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote: I don't get, how people consider their armour sexist.
Why blood Angels' sanguinary guard breast plate isn't then?
Because the Blood Angels' Sanguinary Guard is a tiny, tiny portion of the whole Space Marines range, who are all male, and they are the only one getting this breast plate. The Sisters of Battle are basically the only female human miniatures in the whole range.
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote: I hate, that sculpting a sexually attractive model is now considerd misogynistic.
Here is the solution. Get companies to release tons of completely unsexualized female models, up to the point that the “sexually attractive” ones are rare oddities. And voila, you are done.
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote: I don't get, how people consider their armour sexist.
Why blood Angels' sanguinary guard breast plate isn't then?
Because the Blood Angels' Sanguinary Guard is a tiny, tiny portion of the whole Space Marines range, who are all male, and they are the only one getting this breast plate. The Sisters of Battle are basically the only female human miniatures in the whole range.
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote: I hate, that sculpting a sexually attractive model is now considerd misogynistic.
Here is the solution. Get companies to release tons of completely unsexualized female models, up to the point that the “sexually attractive” ones are rare oddities. And voila, you are done.
Great solution. Here are some minis, so that beauty is not so concentrated!
Can you find me some nerdy, unfit, underweight males in Wh40k? Cause I`m about to get offended! Those catachans, cadians, tempestus and SM are way more masculine, than an average male! That`s sexist! Screw you GW, where all the fictional bodies are perfect so.
I have a better solution, though. People, who are trying to be offended and are jumping over their head just to find anything racist/sexist/homophobic (even though it`s not there) in the hobby , don`t spoil the fun for the others.
Grishnark studio are sculpters.
If we imagine a scale from "toy" to "art", their work lies further, than GW plastics, to "art". And, considering them to be artists, noone can tell them how and what to sculpt, That`s their view of Space Nuns with Guns, and let it be so. If somebody wants flat breast plates for female warriors in a fictional universe, it`s their choice, and nobody will be there to judge. And let it be so for the ones, who want the opposite - we do live in free countries, don`t we?
I think we`re darn off topic though, so sorry about that..
Can you find me a sexy male char/mini in 40k? Because they are a damn rare sight, ain't they?
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote: Those catachans, cadians, tempestus and SM are way more masculine, than an average male! That`s sexist! Screw you GW, where all the fictional bodies are perfect so.
So, soldiers looking like tough muscular men is offensive to you, and soldiers looking like top models is not.
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote: And, considering them to be artists, noone can tell them how and what to sculpt, That`s their view of Space Nuns with Guns, and let it be so. If somebody wants flat breast plates for female warriors in a fictional universe, it`s their choice, and nobody will be there to judge. And let it be so for the ones, who want the opposite - we do live in free countries, don`t we?
Being free doesn't mean people cannot comment on what you do. And people will.
Can you find me a sexy male char/mini in 40k? Because they are a damn rare sight, ain't they?
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote: Those catachans, cadians, tempestus and SM are way more masculine, than an average male! That`s sexist! Screw you GW, where all the fictional bodies are perfect so.
So, soldiers looking like tough muscular men is offensive to you, and soldiers looking like top models is not.
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote: And, considering them to be artists, noone can tell them how and what to sculpt, That`s their view of Space Nuns with Guns, and let it be so. If somebody wants flat breast plates for female warriors in a fictional universe, it`s their choice, and nobody will be there to judge. And let it be so for the ones, who want the opposite - we do live in free countries, don`t we?
Being free doesn't mean people cannot comment on what you do. And people will.
I guess, I should`ve used these for the part of the rant where I was being offended by GW: <sarcasm> </sarcasm>, as the manner of writing was not enough.
oh, I just read your signature. That explains a lot. Lol. GLHF
let sculptors sculpt what they want
let companies sell what they want
let buyers buy what they want
and if anyone has an issue with the miniatures available they pick up some putty and a sculpting tool and make them themselves (Like Grishnark did), or grab a file and start converting what is available
AegisGrimm wrote: How about people not inevitably dragging yet another Sisters-related thread down with boobie discussions? That'd be pretty cool.
As a player who has thought Sisters were cool since 2nd edition, these are pinging my nostalgia bigtime.
While I totally agree with you I think you know by now if there's anything gamers know it's boobs . Anytime a thread pops up with breasts involved we instantly get "why does that model have watermelons attached to it", "those proportions are just terrible", "how else are you supposed to know its a woman", "that's too cheesecake for my taste", "I prefer more cheesecake" and then we start getting all the people fighting over sexual used roles of women. We're dealing with miniatures yet it turns into equality ever time.
The idea of sisters of battle is great, these models are a great throwback to the old models. I'd love to see an update to the range, but I fear the inevitable "Ugh they didn't listen to me and they could have been sooooooooo much better"
much like with recasters the issue is courts in many countries are in no great hurry to worry about it.
They can go after them through credit card companies or paypal making it harder for them to pay.
I wish people would stop referring to using the same visual cues as a GW product as if it's similar to actually recasting GW models, they're not even remotely equivalent, and GW has exactly zero claim against these guys or anyone else making "Space Canadian Armymen", "Space British Soldiers from Zulu", "Space Nuns in Powered Armour", "Space Legionaries", "Holy Roman Empire Soldier with Fantasy Twist", or anything else along those lines. These are the miniature equivalent of making "GUDDI" handbags that happen to look very similar to designs put out by a certain designer label; it's not illegal, it's not unlawful, and it's not infringing any copyrights no matter what the imitated party would like people to believe.
You don't need to make an exact copy of a model to be considered infringing on copyright.
These are absolutely similar enough to the original sisters models that they arguably do infringe copyright and GW would definitely have a decent claim against these models would it ever go to court. Whether such an endeavor would be a good use of GW's resources (or if it would be moral considering GW's lack of attention to the sisters IP in particular and peoples feelings towards the IP-law system in general) is another question entirely.
It's true that this is a different situation than someone making exact copies of existing GW models though. I agree with that.
much like with recasters the issue is courts in many countries are in no great hurry to worry about it.
They can go after them through credit card companies or paypal making it harder for them to pay.
I wish people would stop referring to using the same visual cues as a GW product as if it's similar to actually recasting GW models, they're not even remotely equivalent, and GW has exactly zero claim against these guys or anyone else making "Space Canadian Armymen", "Space British Soldiers from Zulu", "Space Nuns in Powered Armour", "Space Legionaries", "Holy Roman Empire Soldier with Fantasy Twist", or anything else along those lines. These are the miniature equivalent of making "GUDDI" handbags that happen to look very similar to designs put out by a certain designer label; it's not illegal, it's not unlawful, and it's not infringing any copyrights no matter what the imitated party would like people to believe.
You don't need to make an exact copy of a model to be considered infringing on copyright.
These are absolutely similar enough to the original sisters models that they arguably do infringe copyright and GW would definitely have a decent claim against these models would it ever go to court. Whether such an endeavor would be a good use of GW's resources (or if it would be moral considering GW's lack of attention to the sisters IP in particular and peoples feelings towards the IP-law system in general) is another question entirely.
It's true that this is a different situation than someone making exact copies of existing GW models though. I agree with that.
Well, this is Russia. Copyright works differently in Russia (i.e. the amount of protection your IP has is directly related to the amount of money you throw at the judge (and even that is no guarantee). So in any case I do not think the question of copyright is really relevant here. Also, on a fun note. The guys making these miniatures claim they do not infringe on copyright because they are not selling any miniatures. No, they are selling craft bags, the miniatures are a free gift for anyone who buys a craft bag How typical...
The copyright claim will come down to the individual jurisdiction. Some countries have very narrow interpretations of sculptures and models and some have very broad ones when it comes to copyright.
In some jurisdictions it does not need to be an exact copy, but in some it does. It is wholely acceptable for a model to have strong tonal and design similarities. In this instance there is little in the expression of this female space warrior that is uniquely GW's creation. It's a female space warrior with armored corset and boots, typical medieval tabard, iconography, and haircut. The helmet and gun come closest to GW's designs but elements while they may contribute to the infringement of a work do not immediately characterize unique sculptures as a copy of GW's works.
GW this is how you do SOB's.... the only problem is its russia....but most russians are trustworthy right?....right?....
No. All of us Russians are evil drunkards brooding over the loss of our empire and taking every opportunity to deceive and spite Western liberasts like you. ... ... ... No really, the vast majority of Russians are totally normal and trustworthy people. We could be your neighbours and you'd never even notice! And I mean that literally: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jun/29/russian-spies-suburban-america (note: Russian spies are usually sent to live in Canada for a while before deploying to the US)
GW this is how you do SOB's.... the only problem is its russia....but most russians are trustworthy right?....right?....
No. All of us Russians are evil drunkards brooding over the loss of our empire and taking every opportunity to deceive and spite Western liberasts like you.
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No really, the vast majority of Russians are totally normal and trustworthy people. We could be your neighbours and you'd never even notice!
And I mean that literally: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jun/29/russian-spies-suburban-america (note: Russian spies are usually sent to live in Canada for a while before deploying to the US)
Yes they were...Ottawa was a training ground for the KGB and GRU ( altho the GRU had much more success here then the KGB did).
But it's all good Comrade .... btw... knight3 to Queens 6
I don't understand why people complain about boobplate on SOBs. Not having boobplate would be a gross break with the fluff and not acceptable.
There is only one reason SOBs exist at all: the Ecclesiarchy is not allowed to have men-at-arms. So in typical RAWWAAC fashion they went for women-in-arms instead. And that everyone and there grandmother clearly sees that they don't have men-at-arms, they issued over-emphasised womanly armour.
It has nothing to do with sexuality but with gender. Put a woman in standard power armor and you couldn't tell the difference between a man.
And I don't expect SOB armour to be form fitting. Most of the cups are probably empty for most sisters or aren't even hollow to begin with.
Ragnar69 wrote: There is only one reason SOBs exist at all: the Ecclesiarchy is not allowed to have men-at-arms. So in typical RAWWAAC fashion they went for women-in-arms instead.
That's (in-universe) fact.
Ragnar69 wrote: And that everyone and there grandmother clearly sees that they don't have men-at-arms, they issued over-emphasised womanly armour.
That's just your interpretation. It is never explicitly written anywhere. Possibly the armor was already the same before the Decree Passive, when Vandire created the Brides of the Emperor.
I had a talk with the guy yesterday. The models aren't for sale just yet as he is working on the production of them. They guy on ebay was a friend who he gave a set, the guy decided to sell them for whatever reason.
What is most impressive to me is that the models are all hand sculpted, this also explains why the bare heads look .... well, like they do as it's hard to sculpt female heads by hand.
Here is a work in progress image he sent me. If you are wondering about the weird legs they were made that way so he could bend them for posing the crouching sister.
His current plan looks like this:
1. Individual melta weapons on sprues.
2. Dominion like models - Dynamic running poses
3. Retributor like models with heavy weapons in static/defensive poses
4. Tank kit that makes Immolator, Rhino, repressor, exorcist.
5. Sisters in non combat poses (praying, etc)
6. Cannoness like character
7. Celestine like models
8. Priests
9. Repenting ladies (half naked models)
10. Command Squad , models in ornate armor
11. Pistols and swords for Command Squad
12. Conclave crusaders/death cults
I'm really looking forwards to what he creates but as he is hand sculpting everything I fear it will be a long while before everything is done... Still faster than GW regardless...
Sisters is love.. if you don't like boob plate then why are you even here? Just use any guardman model as your sisters...
Because the Adepta Sororitas wear power armour, and wield bolt weapons, flamers, and meltas as the finest expression of Mankind's faith in the Emperor, and its Manifest Destiny?
Interesting to see plasmaguns in there. As for boob armour, well, there's a lot more to Sisters than their breasts. I'd hope that people are fans of Sisters in spite of their boob armour and not because of it.
Frozen Ocean wrote: Interesting to see plasmaguns in there. As for boob armour, well, there's a lot more to Sisters than their breasts. I'd hope that people are fans of Sisters in spite of their boob armour and not because of it.
I think one of the major issues with sisters of battle's armour is that nearly EVERYONE who is a fan of sisters is a fan in spite of the boob armor, and not because of it. The people who defend it seem to be doing so more out of nostalgia and because it's traditional rather than because they have any fondness for it (I could be wrong but that's the impression I get)
As it is, it's a feature of the sisters that the vast majority of people don't care about at best (and dislike or despise at worse) yet it sticks around because reasons.
However, to get things marginally back on topic, some random Russian company doing questionable copyright ethics shouldn't be responsible for changing such a thing anyways. That would be GW's job (and one that you really can't expect GW to do even if they hypothetically wanted to if they never update Sisters in the first place)
Frozen Ocean wrote: Interesting to see plasmaguns in there. As for boob armour, well, there's a lot more to Sisters than their breasts. I'd hope that people are fans of Sisters in spite of their boob armour and not because of it.
I think one of the major issues with sisters of battle's armour is that nearly EVERYONE who is a fan of sisters is a fan in spite of the boob armor, and not because of it. The people who defend it seem to be doing so more out of nostalgia and because it's traditional rather than because they have any fondness for it (I could be wrong but that's the impression I get)
People defend it because it makes them uncomfortable to admit that we don't have equality. I should clarify that my post was in response to:
MadCowCrazy wrote: Sisters is love.. if you don't like boob plate then why are you even here? Just use any guardman model as your sisters...
All possible improvements aside, these are by far the best Sisters ever made, and it's commendable of the creator to stick to the artwork while updating the sculpt. In other words, how Sisters look canonically in 40k is not Grishnark's to decide, and we can't criticise for sticking to the original even when certain elements could have been improved.
Frozen Ocean wrote: Interesting to see plasmaguns in there. As for boob armour, well, there's a lot more to Sisters than their breasts. I'd hope that people are fans of Sisters in spite of their boob armour and not because of it.
I have too many Sisters models to want an aesthetic change. I'm a bit of a stickler for things looking consistent in my armies. Even these Grishnark models seem a bit smaller in the unboxing video. I'm enough of a nutter to know that it would bug me. Nobody would probably say a thing, but I would know, and that's the entire problem.
If I were GW I would hire this guy, he has skill and a passion for it as well as the apparent ability to find a solution to all the problems GW has said they've had bringing plastic Sisters to market. Unless they have something in the works for real, not just a 10 year old rumor, or is it 15? They should snatch him up and get him making Sisters under the official label.
I don't see myself wanting any of these but that's only because I sold my soul to ebay just to get the Sisters models I already have.
Frozen Ocean wrote: Interesting to see plasmaguns in there. As for boob armour, well, there's a lot more to Sisters than their breasts. I'd hope that people are fans of Sisters in spite of their boob armour and not because of it.
I have too many Sisters models to want an aesthetic change. I'm a bit of a stickler for things looking consistent in my armies. Even these Grishnark models seem a bit smaller in the unboxing video. I'm enough of a nutter to know that it would bug me. Nobody would probably say a thing, but I would know, and that's the entire problem.
If I were GW I would hire this guy, he has skill and a passion for it as well as the apparent ability to find a solution to all the problems GW has said they've had bringing plastic Sisters to market. Unless they have something in the works for real, not just a 10 year old rumor, or is it 15? They should snatch him up and get him making Sisters under the official label.
I don't see myself wanting any of these but that's only because I sold my soul to ebay just to get the Sisters models I already have.
I don't know why EVERYONE keeps bringing up that "we can't do plastic sisters because..." Thing. IIRC that was many, many years ago, it's irrelevant today and I'm sure everyone realises that GW would have no technical problems like that.
Mymearan wrote: I don't know why EVERYONE keeps bringing up that "we can't do plastic sisters because..." Thing. IIRC that was many, many years ago, it's irrelevant today and I'm sure everyone realises that GW would have no technical problems like that.
I thought it was more a sculpting problem - how do you do multi-pose sisters and keep the flowing robes without them looking silly? The Grishnark Sisters and GW's Skitarii are essentially mono-pose.
Mymearan wrote: I don't know why EVERYONE keeps bringing up that "we can't do plastic sisters because..." Thing. IIRC that was many, many years ago, it's irrelevant today and I'm sure everyone realises that GW would have no technical problems like that.
I thought it was more a sculpting problem - how do you do multi-pose sisters and keep the flowing robes without them looking silly? The Grishnark Sisters and GW's Skitarii are essentially mono-pose.
Then don't make them multipose.
People just want plastic sisters. Them not being multipose isn't an issue.
Of course, just try telling GW that.
Mymearan wrote: I don't know why EVERYONE keeps bringing up that "we can't do plastic sisters because..." Thing. IIRC that was many, many years ago, it's irrelevant today and I'm sure everyone realises that GW would have no technical problems like that.
I thought it was more a sculpting problem - how do you do multi-pose sisters and keep the flowing robes without them looking silly? The Grishnark Sisters and GW's Skitarii are essentially mono-pose.
Then don't make them multipose.
People just want plastic sisters. Them not being multipose isn't an issue.
Of course, just try telling GW that.
Many of their new kits are multi-option but single-pose, Skitarii for example.
Edit: just read what I quoted and realised I just repeated it
Frozen Ocean wrote: Interesting to see plasmaguns in there. As for boob armour, well, there's a lot more to Sisters than their breasts. I'd hope that people are fans of Sisters in spite of their boob armour and not because of it.
I have too many Sisters models to want an aesthetic change. I'm a bit of a stickler for things looking consistent in my armies. Even these Grishnark models seem a bit smaller in the unboxing video. I'm enough of a nutter to know that it would bug me. Nobody would probably say a thing, but I would know, and that's the entire problem.
If I were GW I would hire this guy, he has skill and a passion for it as well as the apparent ability to find a solution to all the problems GW has said they've had bringing plastic Sisters to market. Unless they have something in the works for real, not just a 10 year old rumor, or is it 15? They should snatch him up and get him making Sisters under the official label.
I don't see myself wanting any of these but that's only because I sold my soul to ebay just to get the Sisters models I already have.
I don't know why EVERYONE keeps bringing up that "we can't do plastic sisters because..." Thing. IIRC that was many, many years ago, it's irrelevant today and I'm sure everyone realises that GW would have no technical problems like that.
while i would say they would have no problems, from seeing their latest figures. I think GW will use this as the go to excuse.
If we don't get new Sisters models by Feb next year I'm buying 200 of these models. I was on the mailing list but declined when he said the models were ready and I could order them. 2 days earlier the GW bin video had come out. Now I'm not so sure if we are getting new sisters in plastic or not anytime soon. These models are the best sisters count as models out there, well they are basically rip offs.
Those models look good and are priced reasonably, but I think I'll hold off for GW's next take in HIPS.
I like the aesthetics of the current Sisters except the boob plate. But my dislike for it is purely aesthetic. I'd prefer the corset became a basque and reduced the plate boobs to plate cleavage.
While I totally agree with you I think you know by now if there's anything gamers know it's boobs 
How typical...
